#ossasepia | 2019-11-28

trinque: any chance you answer jfw's question ?

07:59

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(trinque) 2019-11-25 jfw: trinque: do you know of an existing solution for pushing raw transactions with TRB, patched or otherwise?

08:11

whaack: ok; for btc though I do hope you are otherwise planning to look & find also some people other-than-surf-pal-who-moves-to-nicaragua or wherever, right?

08:15

BingoBoingo_: in fedex-lolz, their tracking page now says it's in the US and "no scheduled delivery date available at this time".

08:16

perhaps meanwhile they found out that the UK is on the other side of the ocean or something.

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14:36

diana_coman: Well, they've done it to Huawei before

14:39

lolz, we shall see.

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14:56

diana_coman: Yes I'll keep networking/searching for people who trade btc/cash in either direction.

14:56

good.

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16:40

diana_coman: In last-minute updates, pcgamingcr told me that actually the graphics card they have available are ~$100 Radeon RX 550 4GB or ~$180 Radeon RX 580 4GB or ~$300 Asus GTX 1660 6GB. My question is there a noticeable benefit I will see

16:40

from shelling out for one of the ore pricier VC options for, say, hacking on the Eulora client.

16:40

whaack: not really, eulora is very undemanding re graphics + for hacking you'd anyway focus on non-graphics really

16:41

iirc someone even managed to run the client on a virtual machine (though that was extreme & slow ofc) so it will run pretty much on ~anything

16:42

sure, it will always look better, shinier etc on latest & greatest (+ the fitting drivers because those make the difference even more than card per se).

16:42

whaack: but overall it's really more about how much you care about the graphics card otherwise really

16:53

diana_coman: When you say 'care about the graphics card otherwise' what does otherwise refer to? I have ~0 experience working with the GPU, making animations, etc. I played a little bit with bagger's CEPL and got little past the hello world stage, but it seemed like something I may be interested in doing later. My thinking is 'maybe some day i would like to be able to produce shiny eulora cli

16:53

ents, but i don't care about having a shiny eulora client today'

17:04

whaack: I mean mainly if you need/want/are interested in latest graphics for something other than eulora

17:04

whaack: if it's "some day", leave it for then, it's not like you can't change a graphics card either

17:05

and/or build another machine specifically for that if you really get that interested in graphics.

17:06

The sub 200 USD easy to find sorta graphics card is probably the sweet spot for anyone who isn't animating, rendering, or trying to make their games look like film.

17:06

but anyway, I expect even with your first option of graphics card there that you can still do decent graphics/animations really

17:07

basically if you don't know for sure what and why you need X or Y or Z graphics card, you'll likely find totally fine any decent option even if older or something.

17:08

if later you figure out you want X or Y graphics card for good reason, you can just change it (if it works with the rest of configuration), what; not a big issue.

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BingoBoingo under the impression the gfx card is the easiest thing to swap out later

17:10

diana_coman: okay ty. I will go with the rx 550 then and make a proper investment in a graphics card if/when I actually need one.

17:10

whaack: np; and sounds sensible, yes.

17:11

BingoBoingo: depending on OS and all that, there can be all sorts of drivers-induced nightmares but otherwise and in principle myeah.

17:23

diana_coman: Another question. The [https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/SPEC-06-RGB/p/CC-9011146-WW#tab-tech-specs]][Corsair Spec 06 case] I am getting comes with 2 included 120mm fans with 6 potential spots for fans. Should I get additional fans?

17:28

whaack: On that case the extra spots look like they are for folks doing weird with watercooling and such

17:37

whaack: it looks like the 2 included should be enough for as long as you keep it in a sensible place really; at any rate, you can monitor the temp and figure out later if you really need to add fans, it depends in the end on your environment too.

17:38

BingoBoingo: Yes the case also supports watercooling. Is that an issue? I did not do too much of an investigation on cases. I know only that they need to have the right size / form factor, and bigger is better for cooling.

17:38

also, if you have in there 8 running fans, it might end up rather noisy, so maybe not ideal if it can be helped.

17:39

Yes I really don't want to replace my background audio of ocean waves with the noise of fans spinning.

17:39

whaack: re size, the less crowded stuff is, the more space for air to move about so yes.

17:40

so then, let it be as it is and otherwise monitor it and see, that's how things are figured out anyway.

17:43

diana_coman: cool. Looks like the major pieces are all decided then. I am going with the $500 1500VA UPS My thought process was if they are both so overpriced then the investment aspect is out the window and I should cut my losses by getting the cheaper option that addresses my immediate needs. I read a review on amazon that seemed thoughtful that de

17:43

tailed how to attach a better off brand battery and added it to my notes.

17:43

all right.

17:44

whaack: Shouldn't be an issue

17:44

Cases like that one they try to make versatile

17:45

It's the smaller cases that try to force you into particular flavors of weird

17:51

BingoBoingo: Cool.

17:55

On the big cases they have to offer the possibility of water cooling, or there's a subset of customers that'll give the case a hard pass.

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18:28

BingoBoingo: If my case offers vertical GPU mounting, should I get a mount / Pcie Riser Cable to do so? Or is it unnecessary.

18:30

whaack: depends on the height of the GPU. If you don't have to, I don't see why you would. If space demands you mount vertically, it forces you to get one.

18:31

If you can find your desired gfx card in a "low profile" version, that can also work and helps to keep the clutter down.

18:45

BingoBoingo: Alright ty. Looks like my GPU should fit just fine.

18:46

asking though if they have the low profile version.

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