#ossasepia | 2019-09-21

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-20#1003228 - lolz! but if you mean that literally, they basically own ~everything in this Maranello little town so they sell also...pen and paper (with ferrari logo! in ferrari-trademarked red colour!)

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Logged on 2019-09-20 20:51:31 asciilifeform: diana_coman: laff if you like, but i always imagined 'ferrari' as a pen&paper shop

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the rest was a very corporate-style thing actually (well, softened at the edges by italian interaction style for sure but still);

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http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-20#1003226 - ftr I didn't work *for* them, just *with* them during one collaborative project ferrari-university, involving their programming team (they do use all sorts of software but generally made in-house)

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Logged on 2019-09-20 19:11:59 shrysr: i would think if there was any meaning in the automotive world... it would be @ Ferrari :) .. or perhaps some kindda F1 team.

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well, at least they *did*, that was already more than 10 years ago, no idea now.

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http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-20#1003229 - cool.

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Logged on 2019-09-20 21:12:31 jfw: I discovered I had some sleep and work review/planning debts to pay; nearing the end of that and will get back to log catchup shortly.

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http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-20#1003228 - come to think of it, I'd have that image re Bugatti rather.

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Logged on 2019-09-20 20:51:31 asciilifeform: diana_coman: laff if you like, but i always imagined 'ferrari' as a pen&paper shop

~ 8 hours 9 minutes ~

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hohum 998683 be the first line of #o it appears.. and 100 to 1000000 takes longggg time to curl... lol.

11:54

hmm pen&paper shops are still super super cool. I dig nice stationary... dot grids + mechanical pencils. More abt function than form since me poooor, though ofc ferrari tm stuff wd be so sexy to add to collection. No idea what they cost.

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shrysr: yes re line numbers, it doesn't start from 0 since it was made to "fit before the bot started" rather than "this is start"

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shrysr: re 100 to 1mn - since you go 500 lines at a time, you can...calculate how long is "longggg", lolz;

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some pens were ~10 euros or there but to me they were still just... overpriced pens.

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-21#1003233 << meant 'design with ink instead of comp'

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snsabot

Logged on 2019-09-21 03:25:00 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-20#1003228 - lolz! but if you mean that literally, they basically own ~everything in this Maranello little town so they sell also...pen and paper (with ferrari logo! in ferrari-trademarked red colour!)

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Logged on 2019-09-20 20:51:31 asciilifeform: diana_coman: laff if you like, but i always imagined 'ferrari' as a pen&paper shop

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diana_coman: hehe such items over priced alwayz i guess. i wd presume they just buy their pens from sm mftr and re-brand... i have this roll up thingy with little loops where i place each pencil. :( brought just a few when i shifted. particularly pencil because paper quality is so variable...and handwriting quality suffers with ball pens. you don't get anything much in india w.r.t mech pencils. I mostly

12:23

researched and got em on trips.

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http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-21#1003247 << believe almost all auto companies have designers who do the ink based conceptual design. The final product is usually quite far from the sketches...perhaps less so in case of ferrari lambo types, but all of em def use computers (CAD+ aero+ structural+ engine tuning+ +) for sure.

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Logged on 2019-09-21 12:35:52 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-21#1003233 << meant 'design with ink instead of comp'

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snsabot

Logged on 2019-09-21 03:25:00 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-20#1003228 - lolz! but if you mean that literally, they basically own ~everything in this Maranello little town so they sell also...pen and paper (with ferrari logo! in ferrari-trademarked red colour!)

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Logged on 2019-09-20 20:51:31 asciilifeform: diana_coman: laff if you like, but i always imagined 'ferrari' as a pen&paper shop

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diana_coman: re: lonngg - tbh i aborted after.. ~5 min hehe. but yes. hmm the funny thing was that nothing was written into the file after abort. each loop supposed to curl + append to a file .... so i expected a portion to be there. perhaps due to exec from emacs + org mode rather than terminal. will get back to that

~ 35 minutes ~

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diana_coman: why the limit of 500 lines?

~ 16 minutes ~

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shrysr: the limit is basically a bit of a throttle ie you don't want to get the whole thing stuck because someone asked for 10mn lines or something.

13:29

there is no such thing as infinite resource, no matter what resource you are talking about.

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shrysr: re empty, you were also asking for non-existent lines.

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diana_coman: y'know, i pulled the 500 number outta air. could easily set to anyffin else.

13:37

it's in the config.

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(ideally imho we all oughta have that knob set to same # tho)

~ 28 minutes ~

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asciilifeform: yeah, I know it's random but the "why is it there" at all is still the above.

~ 1 hours 56 minutes ~

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*

jfw is still alive and catching up.

16:03

I can confirm http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-07-14#998683 is the start of the available log, based on awking & sorting the db dump

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Logged on 2019-07-14 11:01:00 diana_coman: lol, that was one QUICK look

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yes, that's the start.

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diana_coman: something I realized I'm not clear on is whether in http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-14#1002526 you were advising I should decide on applying to submit to training prior to further work on blog setup

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Logged on 2019-09-14 09:32:55 diana_coman: jfw: at any rate, before "what task", you'll need to http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-14#1002518 ;

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jfw: no; prior to expecting me to help you pick a task though.

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ahh ok, ty

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np; it's worth pointing out too that the sooner you decide (either way), the better for you.

16:29

makes sense, otherwise I'm the web page that wastes time by sitting there 'loading...' rather than returning either content or error

~ 1 hours 6 minutes ~

17:36

jfw: i have a vague memory that you inquired at some pt about FG ? do you know about bvt's research ? maybe can contribute to this

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( if so, jfw , yer in the right place, diana_coman is currently the heaviest industrial user of FG )

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ty asciilifeform, I have an FG at hand and a couple in inventory; I am not up to speed on bvt's research, will add to reading list.

17:49

I have been known to use it via 'ln /dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/urandom' but then realized this was unsafe because urandom spec guarantees to fill up to some number of bytes while tty doesn't, def interested in proper kernel integration

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jfw: oh hey you have fg ? neato

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jfw: bvt's project is , approx., to make it so that FG can actually replace /dev/random & /dev/urandom , incl. at boot time

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jfw: orig thread re subj , in his comments

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cool, and I take it from the title that this pulls in a whole kernel genesis spittoon

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