#ossasepia | 2019-09-17

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10:49	shrysr	http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-16#1002751 << /me on it massa :(
10:49	snsabot	Logged on 2019-09-16 13:10:04 diana_coman: shrysr: given the very trouble here, I won't set any deadline for this; but unless and until you write up the post as above, I won't read anything from you other than your next lines right now in which you can ask any questions you have re the above and otherwise end with "I will do it, thank you."
10:54	diana_coman	shrysr: good for you.
		~ 1 hours ~
11:55	shrysr	diana_coman: there are a bunch of (appear random) my messages from july (and perhaps more) which are missing. your responses to them are there and I even rem asking them. Believe i have noticed this before too - shdda mentioned i guess. afaik these are all in the period from before the logger (as it is now) was setup.
		~ 30 minutes ~
12:26	diana_coman	shrysr: link?
12:28	shrysr	one here http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-08-01#999913 ...
12:28	snsabot	Logged on 2019-08-01 12:43:00 diana_coman: shrysr good then.
12:28	diana_coman	and yes, you should have mentioned it when you noticed it, directly with link too.
12:29	shrysr	there r few others, in july. i will try gather.
12:30	diana_coman	hm there does seem to be a line missing though no idea why; I'll look at it.
12:40	shrysr	http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-07-17#999085 believe another line here iirc. i was trying to cross reference with my log, but mine appear to start from 19th july.
12:40	snsabot	Logged on 2019-07-17 15:09:00 diana_coman: hey, glad to hear that shrysr !
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13:29	diana_coman	shrysr: use logs.ossasepia.com (eg fixt http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-08-01#999885) ; let me know if you see anything else missing.
13:29	ossabot	Logged on 2019-08-01 12:37:00 diana_coman: shrysr: if you are under some impression that you are doing me some great favours, better spill it out right now and be done with it, so we don't waste time.
13:39	shrysr	ah. ok. I was just gonna point out another one but i see that is not missing on logs.ossasepia.com
		~ 4 hours 19 minutes ~
17:59	shrysr	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-16#1002796 << derealisation sure, but first statement abt most drugs not 'bad' on their own? I dun think thats true. $substances are essentially gateways into a cycle. you get high on whateva and then you go low - and need it again to not be low. Each drug has a physical + mental side effect that doesnt wear off instantly, thereby affecting the quality of
17:59	ossabot	Logged on 2019-09-16 14:54:49 lobbes: yea, (most) substances aren't necessarily "bad" on their own, just like watching tv isn't necessarily "bad" on its own. The problem, imo, is when you start to use them as 'derealisation tools' that ends up distracting you from other things you ought to be doing.
17:59	shrysr	subsequent 'non-stoned' activities as well, unless you have a super-disciplined-customised method of 'recovery' that actually works and is used each and every time, or perhaps have balls of steel and care enough to reach same performance levels which is still taxing and worth it because the reward is..... getting high lol. imho the cure lies in the general direction of knowing why you wanna be high in the
17:59	shrysr	first place, presuming you wanna quit at all.
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18:49	whaack_pura_vida	it would be a sin to omit the next part of my day yesterday: so i went to surf for the evening and on the car ride home friend (dif from the one i'd be living with) offers $substance and i decline (an action out of the ordinary for our relationship) and he is insistent on me partaking. he keeps offering throughout the night and eventually i take a tiny hit. it felt pathetic doing that, the silver lining is that by test running the 'no ty'
18:49	whaack_pura_vida	and seeing the results it's obvious that i'll have to find a place separate from pot smoking friends
		~ 1 hours 38 minutes ~
20:27	shrysr	whaack_pura_vida: fwiw - i've found explaining 'why' behind 'no ty' works better than just 'no ty' in those situations in a general sense. but even so depends on the maturity level of the friend to understand. however, afaik from 13 years in the culture is that offering you a hit is almost just basic courtesy and quite natural that it pops out like exhaling air. It can take several sessions for it to
20:27	shrysr	register that you've 'quit', and I shd stop offering it to you. Also fwiw I've personally known a lotta ppl who used to hang around pothead friends like me and never take a hit. I'm just saying that I think it is possible... but it totally depends on how steadfast/fundamentally clear you are coz it is tough to say no when its allll around you, esp if you've already been into it. Kindda easier if you
20:27	shrysr	never into it.
20:34	whaack_pura_vida	shrysr: that is a good point - having a 'why' to give to back the 'no'
20:37	whaack_pura_vida	and yes most friends just offer me weed because it is habit/common courtesy, but this friend was giving a guilt trip over it most likely because of "don't make me lonely and have to get high by myself" thoughts
		~ 15 minutes ~
20:53	BingoBoingo	"It doesn't agree with me like it used to"
20:53	shrysr	yea well that happens too. it cd even be some fear+resentment as in - 'you quit n explained why and now ur gonna be good, and I'm still the stoner a.k.a implied loser/asshole etc' .... am sure you know its not always the happy puff-puff-pass and bob marley crap. I'l admit I've felt (and have exp from others) such resentment, mostly at the initial stages i guess, after which i cdnt care less if somebody
20:53	shrysr	said 'no ty' as long as I had mine lol. it can induce weird paranoia as well. fwiw: i think the ones who can be stoned and not induce you constantly to join, esp after your 'why' + 'no ty' are probably the only ones worth worrying abt in terms of 'relationship' / friendship. One advantage you have is that you kno how 'stoners' think and so are also well suited to fight it and win... or know you cannot
20:53	shrysr	and retreeeaatttt. hehe.... i better stop ranting before diana kicks me out.
		~ 1 hours 13 minutes ~
22:07	BingoBoingo	whaack: Anyways, while it is still a countable number keep tracking the number of conversations you have in the local language, and try to note what operations you struggle with.

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