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02:30 diana_coman shrysr: you do know that mp-wp has a html editor, right? (fwiw I never use the other one precisely because of wasting time formatting and clicking buttons)
02:31 diana_coman re mac : well, ~anything is a better option than windows, but what's that going to do; and note that it's not the price the problem either but the fact that you are *meant to not own* your stuff on either system
02:34 diana_coman fwiw I did have a mac laptop + a desktop some 10 years ago - they were slick and good to look at (to the point that I found some of it distracting when needing to work) and otherwise 3 times hotter and noisier than any other hardware of similar or even greater power
02:34 diana_coman and yes, almost all my computers around here are at least 10 years old (though none of them are macs)
02:36 diana_coman so: I'm not necessarily anti-mac, just saying that 1. it'll be a pain 2. you don't own it, it owns you
02:43 diana_coman re xml-rpc, I'll have a look but it's very likely that it "won't work" because your setup forces you into "latest only" ; a good time to note that *everything* has a cost and convenience often costs way more than you imagine
02:46 diana_coman note that just as it's convenient for you to upload your post using xmlrpc.php, so it's convenient for an attacker to use that same opening for DDOS and/or brute-force attack
02:47 diana_coman anyway, back to the original question: your post on your website says you *published on younghands.club* - hence my question, did you actually publish? or just intended but in the end not (then update the text!!) or what happened.
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09:16 shrysr diana_coman: I updated the text right after seeing your message yesterday. http://s.ragavan.co/?p=51
09:23 shrysr shrysr: Last week, I actually headed straight to younghands to publish.. then I realised I had to copy paste.. and then I thought what if I want to update the post - I'd have to do all that again.
09:28 diana_coman shrysr: "worth noting that Cloudflare offer the above for free" - you realise that there is nothing "for free" ever, do you.
09:29 shrysr yes. there is always a cost. they get access to any traffic to my site
09:30 diana_coman re posting: post on your blog since you made yourself one, sure; do backups and all that; maybe simply add 1-para summary + link on younghands.club; you get a link to your content and it's easier to follow anyway (+ you won't need to change *that*)
09:31 diana_coman eh, so "for free" my foot; basically there's nothing for free and if you don't know who pays, it's probably you being sold
09:31 shrysr :D
09:31 diana_coman in the spirit of "pillage+rape is good for a school anyway" I'm considering turning on even the xmlrpc thing
09:32 diana_coman at least if it's a pillage party, let's make it fully so
09:32 shrysr re: xml-rpc... :(( :( reading up now... did not even consider this. sucks.
09:34 shrysr re: summary + link on younghands ... yes. will do. thats a nice solution.
09:37 diana_coman heh, re dns, here's the reference for that: http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/
09:40 shrysr diana_coman: how do you write your posts? Directly in the WP editor? I'm on younghands and see that clicking on the 'html' tab doesnt do anything, but when I save the draft, the text is then enclosed within html?
09:41 diana_coman shrysr: there, to test your comments too
09:42 diana_coman go to your admin dashboard and change also the links format to the saner date/title
09:42 diana_coman because this "p488" is not helping anyone
09:43 diana_coman hm, I usually write them offline in a text editor and then just plonk them in there; let me see maybe it's some artefact of that installation and/or your author's role
09:44 diana_coman shrysr: do you have both tabs visual/html?
09:44 diana_coman if you click on them, it should switch from one to another
09:45 shrysr yes I see both tabs. HTML is greyed out. presuming the visual mode is active - but there's just a text input box, with no formatting option.
09:45 shrysr and like i said nothing happens when i click on html
09:45 diana_coman so you click on html and it remains grayed out?
09:45 shrysr yes
09:46 diana_coman ugh; apparently it's to do with your account's role, I'll need to look at it
09:46 shrysr but when I save the draft - whatever text was in the box gets enclosed in html tags
09:46 shrysr as I just typed hello.... >> saved draft and then I see <p> hello </p>
09:46 diana_coman that's what the visual one.
09:47 diana_coman shrysr: log out and back in
09:47 diana_coman I've deactivated the visual editor for you so hopefully you get only the html one
09:48 shrysr yea. no tabs now
09:48 diana_coman let me know if there's more trouble
09:56 shrysr diana_coman: will do. and thanks for the comment! and no - I don't recall ever saying that the tutorial said so... that feels so sad. That being said.. I can improve tons w.r.t understanding each decision and being more skeptical.
09:57 shrysr diana_coman: re: mac /windows : what do you do to not be 'owned' ?
10:01 shrysr diana_coman: re: saner date/title > i tried that, and remember finding that this has to be enabled in nginx.
10:01 diana_coman shrysr: for starters, I build my own machines (and if it's not built by me, then I'll take it apart first anyway); pretty much same for software (and if /when I need to use shit, well, there's a dedicated "toilet-pc" for that)
10:02 diana_coman note that a lot of effort around in tmsr is precisely to enable one to actually own his machine/game/whatever
10:04 shrysr diana_coman: i like thatt..
10:04 diana_coman it's to a large extent against all the cloudflare&co crowd (it's not convenient!!!11) but in a nutshell I suppose you could think of it this way: if you own it, then it WILL do whatever *you* ask of it (or you blow it up)
10:04 diana_coman the moment you have to "oh, it requires Cloudflare/https/blabla enabled" aka you do what *it* asks, it works the other way around, it's owning your ass
10:08 diana_coman btw that's precisely what V enables one to do too: to own the code you run, there's no "oh, it requires now this or that dependency" - if it's not a change proposed by someone you trust (i.e. in your wot), it doesn't even get to bother you with its existence; and even if it's proposed by someone you trust, you get to decide IF you want it anyway
10:09 shrysr diana_coman: its hard to deal with building a desktop computer in my 'mobile' situation. I got my MBP 2018 in march. i spent months deliberating... especially because it was so damn expensive. I will admit that it felt like being a slave... I had actually hoped to use a thin client and then a nice server in the cloud.
10:10 diana_coman on the plus side though, a desktop computer nowadays is not that huge anymore necessarily and it's a few hundred, probably way cheaper anyway (note that you don't *need* and probably not even want the latest bla-bla)
10:11 diana_coman the thing with the nice server in the cloud is that it's ...in the cloud, you know?
10:11 shrysr yes.
10:11 diana_coman and yes, I'm sure it is hard, it *is* hard, yes.
10:12 diana_coman anyways, re eulora - it has *very* low graphics requirements really
10:12 diana_coman iirc someone even got it running on a virtual machine (though I wouldn't recommend that)
10:12 diana_coman you can totally run it with on-board graphics for sure
10:15 shrysr ok. Hmm. One thing I can do is install linux on my 2010 mbp... that way my 2018 stays intact for the occassional MS office pain.
10:17 diana_coman it does sound like you already have at least the public-toilet machine aka your mac (the tmsr term of art for those is crapple)
10:18 diana_coman note that I don't mind it in the slightest if you go and install eulora on mac - actually it's even better, since so far I don't know of anyone who managed to get it working on mac :D
10:26 shrysr rofl don't i have enough to deal with
10:28 diana_coman well, just in case you didn't :D
10:30 shrysr crapple :D its funny.. by the time you cough up money for a mac... i guess its natural to to resent, no matter how much you recognise being a slave.
10:32 diana_coman shrysr: you are at least honest enough with yourself to recognise it, hence you can at least laugh at it too; most "customers" won't admit it.
10:34 shrysr At best, to be fair - it's been a love hate relationship. I've not been able 'hate' linux per se. For example, i started used i3wm a few months ago and it was a revelation. I almost did not want to go back to the mac... on many days I've wanted to give it all up.... have a simple, powerful system that works. That's probably a utopian definition, but maybe not ?
10:35 diana_coman shrysr: as stated it's not much of a definition (hint: what is "works"?)
10:37 diana_coman fwiw I don't hate any sort of assorted bits, what did 0/1 ever did to me, lol; people yes, if you find actual persons worth hating might even do you good (hint: perfect focus)
10:42 shrysr "works" is ambiguous. I'm unable to define it clearly, and I think I'll write a post thinking aloud.
10:45 diana_coman good idea
10:49 shrysr is a saner date/title thingy necessary? I can enable that, and actually was in the process, when I felt - why not just plain numbers. its easier to refer to ?
10:49 shrysr i.e the default
10:52 diana_coman shrysr: how is it easier to refer to?
10:52 diana_coman it loses some information with what gain exactly?
10:53 diana_coman posts on the blog are text for human consumption not numbers for machine consumption, that's the point there
10:56 shrysr as in a relative link would probably just be /?p=78 .. easier to cross reference older articles and say, I remember today's post is number 79, i just type in the link here...
10:58 diana_coman but how do you remember that today's post is number x?
10:58 diana_coman that's precisely the thing - the date you already know, while the number...
11:01 shrysr I won't remember forever and........ if i delete and repost, the number changes :)) it seemed short and sweet !
11:01 shrysr posts are for human consumption, but the URL ?
11:02 diana_coman if you go the route "url is for machine" then you should use the ip directly, neh?
11:02 shrysr :D
11:02 diana_coman url is how you find the post so I'd say yes, human consumption too
11:03 diana_coman and yes, "short and sweet" is mostly a matter of not looking hard enough of the thing :))
11:06 shrysr :)) !! cmon.. it does have atleast a sense of 'efficiency' doesnt it ! I was actually setting up the long format url when I looked at it and felt unsure whether I needed it... i also was wondering why it had to be 'enabled' in nginx and there was a fleeting but vague thought of 'security??', before i 'moved on'.
11:08 diana_coman heh :)
11:08 shrysr so yes..lol. ur right. i did not look hard enough... I'm glad in a way...since I got to hear your wisdom on the matter !
11:09 diana_coman eh, wisdom = total sum of bumps and scrapes and worse one survived so far, you know
11:10 diana_coman shrysr: now you got your site up and yours posts on and apparently can afford to stop futzing with the web part for a bit: what will you focus on as number 1 priority next week? (this week you can tie up loose ends since you kept collecting new ones as far as I can see)
11:13 shrysr diana_coman: v.py / RSA / Eulora ?
11:13 diana_coman that sounds like 3 number 1 priorities? lolz
11:14 diana_coman take v.py as number 1, go through it and make notes/ask, poke it, figure it out; for variety, get set up and going with eulora too, sure, that should fit in alongside; rsa can wait a bit atm, I'd say
11:15 shrysr :)) i was providing potential options to fill in space while actually waiting for your directive :P
11:15 shrysr okay.
11:15 shrysr i'm on it.
11:16 shrysr actually look fwd to it. i don't know why yet.
11:16 diana_coman cool, don't forget to take notes as you go and post them at the end of the day.
11:16 diana_coman heh, good :)
11:18 shrysr yes.
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20:26 shrysr It comes out as plain text. I entered in links like: <a href="https://s.ragavan.co/?p=51">setting up new GPG keys</a>.
20:28 shrysr I mean - the links are all removed. They are not available as plain text either.
20:32 shrysr Ok, i tried just the URL without HTML - still not working. You can see the post.
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21:38 shrysr Interestingly - i was able to send an encrypted mail with using Emacs - mu4e. However, it seems the email address I send to - has to be available in my gpg keys. Which is logical.
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