#trilema | 2014-11-17

actually there we go, wasn't so bad

00:04

nubbins`: can you pm me tracking number again?

00:05

;;later tell ben_vulpes thanks. i did think that through...all those i had in mind casually follow things here but not enough to be rated/active - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2014#915367

00:05

Logged on 09-11-2014 04:36:17; RagnarDanneskjol: I need to round up the troops and do some crash coursing in wot, etc first

00:05

The operation succeeded.

00:06

RagnarDanneskjol: quite a few people, i think, underestimated the effort involved

00:06

indeed

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can't say i didn't warn.

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asciilifeform has studied the turd, on and off, for quite some time

00:08

one day I will make a book of your turdisms asciilifeform

00:08

or maybe a comic strip...

00:08

make comic of bitcoind

00:09

(the real one, not the cthonian horror)

00:09

in the style of larry gonick, i dare say

00:09

but that isn't a turd!

~ 23 minutes ~

00:32

lol

00:32

!up cascadian_herper

00:33

danke

00:33

ragnardanneskjol: whats the best time to plant a tree?

00:33

-1.5.tar.gz

00:33

oops

00:34

the best time to plant a tree is never, because they all die anyways

00:35

"I really hope that folks who value user choice will be willing to work with those who are trying to introduce improved ways of doing things regardless of what we decide." <<< and there's the giveaway.

00:35

well shit just give up then

00:35

not really easy, doing this sort of thing.

00:36

decimation

the river of meat has spoken

00:37

ragnardanneskjol: i want to work with the hep cats who see wot+bitcoin and are struck speechless with their importance who then hie to the gpg-machine for registration

00:37

not troops who must be rounded

00:40

most people are struck once they take the time to learn it. its a damn figure of speech -as in contacting all those I know who are squarely qualified to do this work AND meet said expectations

00:41

I have plenty of other things to do if you dont any help

00:41

dont want*

00:42

"I like the blockchain just not bitcoin itself is like saying I like pussy but not women themselves"

00:44

!up cascadian_herper

00:45

merely illuminating parameters.

00:45

understood

00:47

this web client is wholly inadequate

00:48

which you using?

00:48

kiwi

00:48

ahh. if you're on andro, andchat and halo are decent

00:49

not really motivated to irc on phnoe

00:52

is nice reading material when pooping

00:53

best material wipes as well

00:54

anyone keeping a running count of known USG coins?

00:54

i vaguely recall smth in the neighborhood of 400k

00:55

M_infinity ?

00:55

or like, could carry in large knapsack?

00:55

er, bitcoins

00:59

via confiscations and what not

00:59

;;totalbc

00:59

13509425.0

01:00

;;interval 10000

01:00

(interval takes no arguments) -- Shows average interval, in seconds, between last 1000 blocks.

01:01

;;halfreward

01:01

Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Sun Jul 31 15:21:25 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 1 year, 36 weeks, 5 days, 9 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds.

01:05

;;8ball

01:05

It is so.

01:06

<thestringpuller> "I like the blockchain just not bitcoin itself is like saying I like pussy but not women themselves" << more like "i like round things but not circles, because this difference exists"

01:10

mats_cd03 they're about 100k under, atm.

01:11

and their last toe support got squeezed to fuck in s.mpoe, so there's going to be a reckoning next week or something like that.

01:13

ok thanks

~ 24 minutes ~

01:38

!mpif

01:38

BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021747 B (Total: 475.57 B). Delta: 0.56 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000195 BTC [-]

01:38

$depth f.mpif

01:38

thestringpuller: [F.MPIF] Bids: 7125 @ 0.00019500 30000 @ 0.00019100 7636 @ 0.00019000 100000 @ 0.00018500

01:38

thestringpuller: [F.MPIF] Asks: 99 @ 0.00021900 2000 @ 0.00021910 17100 @ 0.00022000 10000 @ 0.00022000

01:45

;;ls

01:45

What do you think I am, a shell?

01:46

demo test: http://qntra.net/2014/11/this-onion-it-smells-inherent-hazards-of-the-tor-network/

01:46

This Onion, It Smells: Inherent Hazards of the Tor Network | Qntra.net ( http://dpaste.com/28ADNN6.txt )

01:46

see link.

01:47

dpaste got no html mode ?

01:47

who has

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?

01:48

http://pastebin.com/ < syntax highlight

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http://dpaste.com/ < idem

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kakobrekla wont use non-raw

01:50

makes my brain hurt

01:51

links2 mode

01:52

anyway how is this better http://pastebin.com/Xq8c3EeM

01:55

looking at this, we can notice qntra has two </footer> tags, only one <footer>

01:56

also one extra </div> that does not belog.

01:56

belong

01:56

that is a very nice feature add. raw is pretty tough on the eyes. at least you have some margin on standard paste and the option to show raw

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kakobrekla still not convinced

02:01

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/4-alternatives-that-may-be-better-than-pastebin/

02:02

that's an interesting point.

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RagnarDanneskjol searching for pasters I've seen supporting formatting

02:02

the footer

02:07

;;ticker --market all

02:07

Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 401.45, vol: 12782.62524050 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 395.0, vol: 8349.05923 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 401.84, vol: 28410.25447645 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 399.361767, vol: 226201.84320000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 400.0, vol: 3.89065 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 394.821, vol: 55.90373743 | Volume-weighted last average: 399.580880606

02:11

https://webproxy.vpnbook.com/browse.php?u=TgiS5wSPehNu94A3&b=0&f=norefer << also other than assbot, proxies for the lost.

02:11

Free Web Proxy ( http://dpaste.com/0RCYY6X.txt )

02:18

that doesnt work

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they as well dont see dns

02:19

worked for me a second ago

02:20

nohttp://shrani.si/f/2A/BG/mdCxKCv/err.png

02:21

hm.

02:34

http://pastebin.com/qeLJ0DJa << how are these derps making it throiugh then lol

02:34

Host: 193.33.24.8 / Http Code: 403Date: Nov 17 02:31:32Http Version: HTTP - Pastebin.com ( http://dpaste.com/060Y1NC.txt )

~ 24 minutes ~

02:58

!up saifedean

02:59

good day everyone, how goes it?

03:01

same ol'.

03:08

So a couple of my friends have started a Middle East bitcoin payment processor: http://yellowpay.co

03:08

Yellow | Bitcoin Payments in MENA ( http://dpaste.com/3FT7DWN.txt )

03:08

any thoughts, advice, or searing critiques?

03:11

what's this, 2011 all over again ?

03:11

;;gettrust couple of friends

03:11

(gettrust [<sourcenick>] <destnick>) -- Get trust paths for <destnick>, starting from <sourcenick>. If <sourcenick> is not supplied, your own nick is used as the source. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Notes_about_gettrust

03:11

apparently it dun work like that.

03:11

hahah

03:14

im not asking for trust for these friends, just wondering what you folks think of this business model.

03:16

but, so far the business model is "dude where's my car"

03:17

like, what are these friends. are they cooks ? airplane pilots ?

03:18

one used to work in tech companies, the other in bullshit management consulting. they both quit their jobs to work on this full time

03:21

I recommend thy try to get their old jobs back 'fore its too late.. a 'no risk' exchange does sound rather amazing tho

03:21

AMAZING COMPANY!

03:21

;;bc,stats

03:21

03:22

saifedean the way that noobs usually work these things is, they put in some work for a few months, and while they're small whatever bank they lied to doesn't bother to notice.

03:22

then it yanks the plug and there goes the "business model"

03:30

the world could use an updated, expanded 'so you wanna start a bitcoin business'

03:31

old one is still good

03:32

indeed.. still, so much more could be said on the topic - and old one lives on tardstalk

03:32

AND the author can no longer reply, so

03:33

speaking of old one, your friends happened ot read it saifedean ?

03:33

!up saifedean

03:34

i haven't read the old one, where is it?

03:34

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.0

03:34

So you think you're going to start a Bitcoin business, right? ( http://dpaste.com/2GKAS1Q.txt )

03:39

http://trilema.com/2014/a-mighty-wind/ << if anyone's not seen that, i heartily recommend.

03:39

A Mighty Wind pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ( http://dpaste.com/1H25BAB.txt )

03:40

"Access Denied (content_filter_denied) Your request was denied because of its content categorization: "Games""

03:40

trilema is classified as games by my university, MP!

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games ?!

03:41

that's a new one.

03:42

imma email this to our network administrator: http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/138/089/1308693297001.jpg

03:42

( http://dpaste.com/3A3JP03.txt )

03:43

game of thrones moreliek

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http://trilema.com/2010/a-nins-a-nins/ << speaking of game

03:44

A nins ? A nins! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ( http://dpaste.com/2RN6X5M.txt )

03:45

email him that, at least he can reclassify it. HUNTING!

03:45

well, this link worked, but the previous one didn't

03:45

seems this filter of yours is doing exactly as much useful work as every filter ever.

03:54

[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1012 @ 0.00120546 = 1.2199 BTC [+] {3}

~ 55 minutes ~

04:49

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/11/the-dutch-village-where-everyone-has-dementia/382195/?single_page=true

04:49

The Dutch Village Where Everyone Has Dementia - The Atlantic ( http://dpaste.com/2Q2H2QX.txt )

04:50

[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1083 @ 0.00120569 = 1.3058 BTC [+] {2}

~ 42 minutes ~

05:32

[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH2] 1665 @ 0.0012 = 1.998 BTC

05:46

!up gerax

05:46

!up PiaAA

05:46

is the tits for 0.1 btc still active?

05:48

hi PiaAA, maybe

05:49

you can wait few hours for mircea_popescu and ask him

05:51

thanks

06:04

so, what is this place for?

06:04

so many people but everyone is quiet lol

06:05

[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH2] 1000 @ 0.0012 = 1.2 BTC

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[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH2] 1170 @ 0.0012 = 1.404 BTC

06:07

PiaAA: it's that time of day... apparently europeans don't like to chat much at this hour

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and everyone else is asleep

06:07

you can read logs: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com

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#bitcoin-assets log ( http://dpaste.com/2Z7SWG7.txt )

06:18

https://robert.sesek.com/2014/9/unraveling_nsa_s_turbulence_programs.html

06:18

Unraveling NSA's TURBULENCE Programs - Robert Sesek ( http://dpaste.com/1HMC6CN.txt )

06:25

https://github.com/client9/ipcat

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client9/ipcat · GitHub ( http://dpaste.com/2PDCZEE.txt )

~ 16 minutes ~

06:42

http://dpaste.com/1HMC6CN.txt

06:42

( http://dpaste.com/1PAJHXZ.txt )

06:43

dpaste all the dpaste!

~ 15 minutes ~

06:58

;;ident adlai

06:58

Nick 'adlai', with hostmask 'Adlai!~Adlai@gateway/tor-sasl/adlai', is identified as user 'Adlai', with GPG key id 4D88596A7CDA03F9, key fingerprint FCBC64EFDF1D6C1E4E964AEE4D88596A7CDA03F9, and bitcoin address 13dkw1PtojBW74FN7ERbHqoEvgsTmtARuj

06:59

is this gpgadlai or btcadlai? only gribble knows...

07:00

the nsa's database probably knows, although i'd be surprised and honored if they cared

07:01

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Adlai reads http://www.criticalthinking.org/pages/accelerating-change/474

07:01

Accelerating Change ( http://dpaste.com/1C66YR4.txt )

07:01

why it's so important? got split personality?

07:01

holy fuck that dpaste is painful on the retina

07:02

well, apparently using btc auth is foolhardy, childish, and infinitely inferior to gpg auth

07:02

entropy cares how it's serialized

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ENTROPY CARES

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AMAZING ENTROPY

07:04

AMAZING COMPANY!

07:05

i'm not a huge fan of leaving open the door to known-cleartext snooping through pastebin verification, but i imagine there's some way around that

~ 33 minutes ~

07:38

;;rated napedia

07:38

You rated user napedia on Mon Nov 17 07:30:42 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: https://twitter.com/napoleon/status/534321538657308672.

07:42

nice https://twitter.com/napoleon/status/467322725074079745

07:42

Only invest in the USD what you can afford to lose.

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cf https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/y/yamamotots536612.html

07:43

Meditation on inevitable death should be performed daily. Every day one should meditate... - Yamamo ( http://dpaste.com/1RZ2491.txt )

07:44

isn't it about time this assbot paste thingy learned to distinguish content from cruft?

07:45

Luke 9:23 Then He said to them all, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily,[a] and follow Me.

07:47

isn't it about time for the sequel, "Jesus Shrugged"?

07:48

he should join us in E̶g̶y̶p̶t̶ chile

~ 1 hours 8 minutes ~

08:56

$status

08:56

BingoBoingo: Proxies: mpex.biz mpex.bz mpex.ws mpex.coinbr.com mpex.co Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91

08:56

BingoBoingo: MPEx-Status: mpex.biz (106 milliseconds), mpex.ws (109 milliseconds), mpex.co (113 milliseconds), mpex.bz (114 milliseconds), mpex.coinbr.com (683 milliseconds)

08:56

BingoBoingo: Health-Indicators: Homepage: √ MK Depth JSON: √ VWAP JSON: √

09:11

!up saifedean

09:20

[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH2] 11665 @ 0.0012 = 13.998 BTC

09:29

ruminated a bit on the imagery of human women being milked as cows when i woke up. the creepy part is that it's not just hentai, and that given the population of the earth, there are surely women that are being dairy farmed somewhere. the writers of walking dead missed an opportunity to have some surprise cheese or yogurt in the cannibal camp episodes.

09:31

Deuteronomy 14:21Modern English Version (MEV)

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21 You must not eat of anything that dies of itself, but you may give it to the foreigner that is in your gates, so that he may eat it, or you may sell it to a foreigner, for you are a holy people to the Lord your God.

09:31

You shall not boil a young goat in its mother.s milk.

09:31

NO CHEESEBURGERS!

09:34

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Adlai likes the bit about feeding carrion to immigrants

09:34

heh

09:37

heh funny timing ^

~ 1 hours 6 minutes ~

10:44

http://pastebin.com/Nvpe1Ccv << why is "erasing the past" such a common fantasy ?

10:44

Dear Affiliate, Priscilia Jones is starting a new career and - Pastebin.com ( http://dpaste.com/3FJSBR1.txt )

10:53

http://qntra.net/2014/11/detroit-hit-by-ransomware-in-april/

10:53

Detroit Hit By Ransomware in April | Qntra.net ( http://dpaste.com/3N6FD0C.txt )

10:53

poor detroit.

10:55

Did I get that correct that the Mayor attempted to sync a calendar on an infected system?

11:01

TheNewDeal they seem unrelated.

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that said, i struggle to comprehend what the idea is behind BingoBoingo's collection of factoids.

11:02

Detroit sucks?

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so here's a chick with a hoola instead http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4mvgabRW11qminlvo1_400.gif

11:03

( error )

11:03

[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH2] 1167 @ 0.0012 = 1.4004 BTC

11:03

BingoBoingo but listen, if that's your angle (detroit sucks) then make it your title. if that doesn't work then why not ?

11:04

Ah, ok.

11:05

jurov:

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you can wait few hours for mircea_popescu and ask him << how does jurov know!!!

11:05

I just found the "Spread the Wealth" op-ed piece a bit... ironic considering every other headline there tonday is about the absolute pile of nothing they have.

11:05

how does he know how to get an anagram of his name into a sha256sum :P

11:06

Adlai: is this gpgadlai or btcadlai? only gribble knows... << nanotube you know, he brings a very good point. how would i go to check that he is in fact and specifically gpg authed ?

11:06

TBF i thought detroit was dead by now

11:07

BingoBoingo im not saying the three links couldn't assemble into a great piece, but merely that it has to actually be done. ie, reader doesn't have access to the lulz in your head, put it on teh page.

11:07

mircea_popescu hm that's a good one. ;;ident will list gpg key AND btc address if both are reg'd

11:07

Ah, that problem. The why Trilema must have so many words problem.

11:08

nubbins` reg'd yes. auth'd ?

11:09

i suppose the standard best practice when newbs make accounts would be inserting a rider with "and don't add a btc address, it just creates pointless ambiguity"

11:10

Adlai: i'm not a huge fan of leaving open the door to known-cleartext snooping through pastebin verification << le explain ?

↖

11:11

BingoBoingo

11:11

Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan revealed at the North American International Cyber Summit that a 2,000 BTC ransom was not paid in order to regain access to the affected database because it was "not that important".

11:11

In a seemingly-unrelated revelation that perhaps hints at the true reason for the bounty not being paid, the mayor also revealed that he cannot sync his MS Office calendar to his phone due to technical difficulties.

11:11

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nubbins` shrugs

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lol

11:11

revelation + revealed gotta go

11:12

nono, "mayor would like to spread the wealth but can not find the time to do so"

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s/revelation/admission perhaps

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anyway lelelelelelel.

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such a mayor/manager thing to say huh

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"i can't get my phone to sync my calendar"

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mangerial.

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you know, from mange.

11:12

"why isn't my sound working"

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ahahaha.

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mangy mayor

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old woman @doctor's office :

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doc, my sound's working.

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heh

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she can finally pee?

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lmao!

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nubbins` claps

11:13

no, she just used to hear these voices and for a while they were gone

11:13

5 satoshi says i'm the only one here who got that

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hence, ~HER~ sound wasn;t working

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o heh

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thought i nailed it ;/

11:13

lol. what sort of a cult do you think this is!

11:13

;;google sounding site:bme.com

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can't be having people nailing shit.

11:13

Sounding - BME Encyclopedia: <http://wiki.bme.com/index.php?title=Sounding>; Sounds - BME Encyclopedia: <http://wiki.bme.com/index.php?title=Sounds>; Sounding | BME: Tattoo, Piercing and Body Modification News: <http://news.bme.com/tag/sounding/>

11:13

yes yes.

11:14

i am aware what a urethral sound is.

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for the uninitiated among us.

11:14

tl;dr put things where you pee, it feels good

11:15

i also like how the sophistication, size and complexity of boy sounds vs girl sounds properly reflects the boy vs girl relation generally.

11:15

boys like big fancy toys?

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(i actually won an argument on this once. triumphant mainstreamist "oh yea ? on what criteria!" mp : "urethral sounds complexity.")

11:16

i don't know that i've seen gender-specific sounds, altho i guess the big sets would never ever fit into a woman's urethra

11:16

Alexander Fox @AutonoZone · Oct 6 @napoleon @BitcoinBelle Idealism is a dangerous investment strategy. Just look at the goldbugs. Global capital is pouring into the USD. <<< why does the usd sound so much like every other altchain scam ?

11:16

nubbins` you kidding ? the curved ones are male.

11:16

the female ones are just straight sticks.

11:16

o rly?

11:17

yup rly.

11:17

then i've never seen female ones :o

11:17

http://shop.bme.com/product/hegar-sounds/

11:17

BME Body Modification Ezine Shop ( http://dpaste.com/3N77JA3.txt )

11:17

"no returns" lel

11:17

http://haydenmedicalinc.com/urology-urethral-dilators-sounds/

11:17

Hayden Medical Inc. Urology Urethral Dilators Sounds - Hayden Medical Inc. ( http://dpaste.com/37VYF89.txt )

11:17

grep for "Infant & Female Dilator Set"

11:17

because yes.

11:18

curved

11:18

anyway idk what it's like now, but there was a time when private citizens had the hardest time purchasing shit like this

11:19

i remember going to a medical supply place once to pick up a biopsy punch i'd ordered

11:19

"sooo... are you a doctor?"

11:19

"nope"

11:19

(guy gets visibly worried)

11:19

"what are you going to do with this?"

11:19

lol

11:19

(i tell him)

11:20

(worry replaced with confusion, leads me to cash register)

11:20

let me guess, you fix hogheads of paint

11:21

*

mircea_popescu tries to follow in Adlai's footsteps reading that "accelerating change" piece, gets as far as "The goal of this chapter is to trace the general implications of what are identified as the two central characteristics of the future: accelerating change and intensifying complexity.", first line in abstract, and fails.

11:21

nothing so innocent, although i've mostly moved on from the proclivities of my youth

11:21

what the FUCK is "intensifying" complexity. is complexity like pain or wtf.

11:22

nubbins` you punch the woman while ridin' her ?!

11:22

i definitely do not biopsy women during sex

11:23

"spread wider honey i wanna get a taste of precum straigth through your perineum!"

11:23

:0

11:23

many deviance, such edge play

11:24

for those of you not in the know, a biopsy punch is a cylindrical scalpel, useful for removing round chunks of flesh from various areas of the body

11:24

https://online.ebos.co.nz/images/product/LRI%20biopsy%20punch6.JPG

11:24

( http://dpaste.com/001Q1ZS.txt )

11:24

unfortunately i may have created a monster there.

11:25

you probably make earlobe holes and lame shit like that.

11:25

close enough

11:26

altho my earlobe holes were done the old-fashioned way, pierced with a needle then immediately tapered to 6 gauge

11:26

that's the main problem for people that got circumcised

11:26

that less skin to fuck with.

11:26

the cock is a cornucopia of piercing sites

11:27

only for slavebois

11:27

i can list maybe a dozen named cock piercings off the top of my head

11:27

real men use the cock to pierce other things

11:27

heh

11:27

like earlobes

11:27

well, by design, hymens.

11:27

BUT IF YOU MUST BE A PERV....

11:31

*

punkman goes to check bme guy's blog, finds "hey guys, I'm dead" post

11:31

xanthyos: ruminated a bit on the imagery of human women being milked as cows when i woke up. the creepy part is that it's not just hentai, and that given the population of the earth, there are surely women that are being dairy farmed somewhere. << nope. if you think about it, mammals are only productive after foaling. what would you do with all the babies ? this and numerous other considerations make dairy-female a hig

11:31

hly abstract fantasy, roughly comensurate with the bizarre shit coming out of the lesbian feminist camp, which is why i made that comment.

11:31

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nubbins` nods

11:32

punkman actually a very interesting guy, if a bit narcissistic

11:32

more stuff i missed ;/

11:32

only heard of bme through modder chick years after its heyday

11:32

real downer about him killing himself, i was in a funk for like 6mo over it

11:32

the curse of the archeologist.

11:32

yeah hey

11:32

yeah he was a cool dude, bme turned to shit when ex-wife took it over

11:32

punkman i met her once at a wedding

11:33

not a great person

11:33

nubbins` met modder chick through making fun of "all those freaks with the crazy shit stick on all sides of head".

11:33

heheh

11:33

cause you know, she seemed sane, and im very conservative.

11:34

i actually met my first almost-wife through bme

11:34

did she come in one piece ?

11:34

a more-or-less intact piece, no less

11:34

mircea_popescu: here's the blog btw http://www.zentastic.com/blog/

11:34

Shannon Larratt is Zentastic › I can scarcely move or draw my breath // Let me, let me freeze agai ( http://dpaste.com/0YZ37CA.txt )

11:34

anyway, i would expect suicide is the definitve body modification all serious practitioners aspire towards.

11:36

assbot now scrapes site & dpastes plaintext?

11:36

rad

11:36

not just plaintext! even images!

11:36

it's maybe a little silly.

11:37

bordering on useless

11:38

nice alternative for when you really don't wanna click a link, i guess

11:38

part of it was the ip stealing attempt coupla days back.

11:39

as always, the security/sanity balance is unobvious.

11:40

maybe I can setup a URL where assbot can post content to, provide actual html/file mirror

11:41

sahould be more in the scoopbot than in the deedbot domain that, in the interest of not making a mess of things

11:41

yeah not on deedbot system, I got plenty of space on a dreamhost account

11:41

which i guess kinda pushes the point,

11:41

;;seen peterl

11:41

peterl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 14 hours, 56 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <PeterL> yes

11:42

;;later tell peterl there's stuff to talk about!

11:42

The operation succeeded.

11:42

Imma write stupid PHP script to do this, also needed for deed backups

11:44

well seeing how scoopbot's never in chan, something's gonna have to be done here.

11:44

;;seen scoopbot

11:44

scoopbot was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 11 hours, 8 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <scoopbot> New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/11/isis-introduces-coins/

11:51

mircea_popescu: that info is not currently publicly available. though i can find out by checking bot-side logs.

11:52

my admittedly inconsequential vote is for including it in ;;ident, as it's potentially useful

11:52

what would it be useful for?

11:52

say you want to know if someone's authed via btc or gpg

11:53

('potentially' == i can't think of a compelling scenario)

11:53

haha you're begging the question here. /why/ would someone want to know that

11:53

is what i want to know :)

11:54

8)

11:54

not that it would harm anything to have the info... just curious

11:54

ostensibly so it's easier to shame people who have registered both a gpg key and a btc address, but choose not to auth via gpg

11:55

i'm sure mp has a more concrete scenario in mind ;p

11:55

mircea_popescu: once a woman starts producing milk she'll keep producing it until she stops nursing. there are some children who nurse way too long and as long as they keep suckling, the milk will flow. also i doubt anyone using women to farm milk is concerned about cost effectiveness or has the moral concern to worry about his cows continually giving birth. their young might be inserted into the food chain that eventually becomes the moth

11:55

...

11:56

i'm sure the truly compelling part of that paragraph was after the break

11:57

kafkaesque

11:58

popesque

12:00

i was at a printer's fair yesterday and some guy came up being really weird about a book we published

12:04

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/michael-daniel-no-zero-day-stockpile

12:04

U.S. Gov Insists It Doesn't Stockpile Zero-Day Exploits to Hack Enemies | WIRED ( http://dpaste.com/0WFM9VM.txt )

12:07

rithm

asciilifeform it just means they subcontract it out

12:07

^^^^^

12:09

rithm

reading reports under the pretense where one hands know what the other hand is doing is fallacy

12:18

http://conference.hitb.org/hitbsecconf2014kul/materials/D2T1%20-%20Haroon%20Meer%20Azhar%20Desai%20and%20Marco%20Slaviero%20-%20Weapons%20of%20Mass%20Distraction.pdf

12:19

^ recent experiments in advanced spamatronics

12:21

<nanotube> haha you're begging the question here. /why/ would someone want to know that << well, i do want to know.

12:22

for one thing, if a hole is found in either but not in both, the situation is now glbse-ambiguous : anyone logged on can claim it wasn;t them

12:24

"also i doubt anyone using women to farm milk is concerned about cost effectiveness" << maybe we're not on the same page as to what farm means, here.

12:25

something like "i'm farming the lich king, 100k spent for every 80k worth of loot" ?

12:27

also, feeding cows their foals, it doesn't work. that's how you select for CreutzfeldtJakob

12:27

^

12:28

if it did make any sort of economic sense it'd be all over your flouridated water i'm sure.

12:28

i have friends who are still not allowed to donate blood because they spent more than 6mo in england

12:28

"In Canada, individuals are not eligible to donate blood or plasma if they have spent a cumulative total of three months in the United Kingdom or France from January 1, 1980, to December 31, 1996. They are also ineligible if they have spent a cumulative total of five years or more in Western Europe outside the U.K. or France since 1980, or if they have had a blood transfusion in the U.K., France or Western Europe since

12:28

1980."

12:28

and in spite of all that painstaking effort ? still crazy as fuck, the canucks.

~ 18 minutes ~

12:47

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/armed-robber-who-got-out-of-sentence-because-of-clerical/article_a5cb7512-5a78-5efc-a77a-769f348f12a3.html

12:47

Armed robber who got out of sentence because of clerical error is back in jail : News ( http://1.hidemyass.com/ip-1/encoded/Oi8vd3d3LnN0bHRvZGF5LmNvbS9uZXdzL2xvY2FsL2NyaW1lLWFuZC1jb3VydHMvYXJtZWQtcm9iYmVyLXdoby1nb3Qtb3V0LW9mLXNlbnRlbmNlLWJlY2F1c2Utb2YtY2xlcmljYWwvYXJ0aWNsZV9hNWNiNzUxMi01YTc4LTVlZmMtYTc3YS03NjlmMzQ4ZjEyYTMuaHRtbA== )

12:48

mp these rules were enacted by a competing prion which has figured out how to influence human behaviour in a more nuanced fashion

12:48

turf wars

12:49

lol

12:49

hey buster! that's prion art!

12:50

a prioni knowledge

12:51

*

BingoBoingo awaits discovery of world with Chiraly reversed biochemistry.

12:52

BingoBoingo it's only like 10% as big, not so fun

12:53

apparently something like 35% of bitcoiners are leftys?

12:54

*

BingoBoingo imagines the aliens landing in nubbins yard, spotting that all of the amino acids are flipped the wrong way, and putting a warning bouy in earth orbit announcing Earth's toxicity.

12:55

*

BingoBoingo imagines the SEW campaign to make Earth safe for the Alien Invaders

12:56

you cannot donate your tenderloins unless you've spent less than 3 consecutive months on earth

13:00

BingoBoingo: iirc asimov had a tale with this premise

13:00

asciilifeform: I vaguelly remember a few stories but no titles

13:01

BingoBoingo: i once tried to write a tale of perverse world of differing chiralities for male and female, and implications thereof

13:02

(before anyone asks, yes, must posit some exception for gametes)

13:03

Creutzfeldt-Jakob << just don't feed the brains. problem solved.

13:04

Just in the context of the prion discussion, I'm imagining sufficiently advanced aliens to have had this problem before. They came here to steal our water, but can't because of fish piss. Just like the Mad Cow blood donor ban

13:10

<asciilifeform> (before anyone asks, yes, must posit some exception for gametes) <<< wait wait lol.

13:10

positing doesn't just work like that.

13:11

mircea_popescu: can make this go if you really want to.

13:11

orly ?

13:18

if someone's gpg key is on a computer that is being held captive by an angry muslim ex boyfriend and they make a new wot account and then later recover the old key, can the ratings of those two accounts be merged?

13:19

[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00120273 = 1.2027 BTC [+] {2}

13:19

xanthyos: say boyfriend did not use key. but gave a copy to the Khalif.

13:20

well he doesn't have the passphrase for it

13:20

but the security isn't my question

13:20

would all the people who gave rating have to be notified to rerate to the new account manually

13:21

i'm asking for bagels7

13:21

who is in a predicament.

13:21

s/notified/begged

13:21

sums up the situation more succinctly

13:21

well that's inconvenient

13:22

hey duod it's me, `xanthyos`, can you give me a re-rate bru? i lost my key lol

13:22

losing your key is, indeed, quite inconvenient.

13:22

well if it's someone i can authenticate as the same person

13:22

i'm saying if they later recovered the key

13:22

and proved they were the same person in that sense

13:23

!s shall be delivered

13:23

23 results for 'shall be delivered' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=shall+be+delivered

13:23

so the ratings are all real

13:23

what are you even talking about

13:24

it's not a lost key it's a currently inaccessible key because it's behind a locked physical door

13:24

at least call these "hypothetical" people alice and bob so we can follow you

13:24

so your laptop is locked in someone's house

13:24

what's your question

13:24

alice's laptop is locked in bob's house

13:24

alice has ratings in the wot

13:25

can alice make wot account alice2 knowing that she'll get her alice1 account back eventually

13:25

you and i shall be free to presume instead that alice is on a sea voyage, and alice2 is actuall nsa shill

13:25

and upon recovering alice1 prove that both are the same and merge their ratings

13:26

what's the rush? if she'll get alice1 back, just wair.

13:26

*wait

13:26

i can't go into that without giving explicit private information

13:27

my $0.02 is I wouldn't re-rate without a good answer to that question.

13:27

in a public log

13:27

i also wouldn't re-rate

13:27

where "good" really means.. i don't think there is a good reason.

13:27

because when you start putting random qualifiers on good answers, you get scammed.

13:28

my question was only if there was a way to merge so rerating wouldn't be an issue if one could prove via gribble to simultaneously own two accounts

13:28

that would be a bug, not a feature.

13:28

someone can move my rating to a different account? that's silliness.

13:29

are you rating the account or the person?

13:29

update the key in wot?

13:29

the account is the person.

13:29

are you rating the account or the person? << 'have sex - with humans; do business - with keys' (mircea)

13:29

i guess that protects people from making offensive name accounts and making it look like you endorse them

13:29

the concept of their name

13:29

use your imaginations

13:30

so then i guess just as ratings can't be moved accounts probably can't be renamed

13:32

nope

13:32

*

nubbins` groans

13:32

;;gettrust othernubs`

13:32

WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user nubbins` to user othernubs`: Level 1: 10, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nubbins%60&dest=othernubs%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=othernubs%60 | Rated since: Mon Oct 20 00:55:51 2014

13:32

how is this not adequate

13:32

heh

13:33

yeah that's fine

13:33

finally a time when 10 trust makes sense

13:34

i trust myself only with a 9

13:34

see the thing is, you want a message from alice saying "alice1 is my backup pgp key in case this one gets stolen"

13:34

it's like warp 10, trust 10 simultaneously occupies every place of faith in the universe

13:34

but you want it after alice has been stolen.

13:34

it's too late by that point

13:34

and if you'd done it before alice had been stolen, well, i suppose your alice1 woulda been stolen too, huh?

13:35

the key is to be able to demonstrably prove that you are who you say you are without use of a pgp key

13:35

not everyone can pull this off

13:36

what my "aura" isn't enough guys? clearly it's me.

13:36

clearly

13:37

nubbins` << can, possibly, prove who you are (for some value of 'who'), but not that you owned the key

13:37

nod

13:37

that's an important distinction

13:38

wot accounts are people like corporations are people

13:40

this raises a question, can schizophrenic even use pgp as intended?

13:40

no, that analogy falls apart in that corporate personhood removes accountability while wot accounthood demands it

13:41

oh intersting

13:41

interesting**

13:41

not schizophrenic but you mean dissociative personalities

13:41

kakobrekla runaway thoughts prevent one from using pgp? o.O

13:41

if it's a compartmentalized individual

13:41

yeah sure, that

13:41

cold, plague, w/e

13:43

dissociative personalities < in such setup, does one personality have access to others passwords?

13:43

hyde doesn't know jekyll's passphrase

13:46

although how much of keyboarding is conscious and how much is muscle memory? does the body remember the sequence of muscle contractions well enough for the passphrase to be typed without knowing it/

13:48

http://qntra.net/2014/11/usms-auctioning-more-bitcoins/

13:48

USMS Auctioning More Bitcoins | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/11e1Wtk )

13:50

ha

13:53

usms << waterfall!

13:56

;;ticker

13:56

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 380.52, Best ask: 381.69, Bid-ask spread: 1.17000, Last trade: 381.7, 24 hour volume: 23277.77066544, 24 hour low: 375.0, 24 hour high: 415.0, 24 hour vwap: 396.595304938

13:57

assbot now appends a hidemyass proxy link btw. use it for opening links from unknown people and qntra and trilema when down

13:59

"The USMS will not release any information to the general public pertaining to the auction process or results."

13:59

how is this legal?

13:59

how is this new?

14:01

mike_c: "To enforce the law one must be above the reach of the law" is pretty much the US m.o. since... Nixon at least

14:02

gernika

Anyone have any references to the legal rationale for selling seized assets prior to a verdict and before the appeals process has completed?

14:02

this guy has been pinging them once a month about his foia.. they went from stalling to ignoring. very gox of them. https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/usms-silk-road-bitcoin-auction-results-12405/

14:02

USMS Silk Road Bitcoin Auction Results | Muckrock ... ( http://bit.ly/11e44RU )

14:02

the 'rationale' is - 'you are furniture'

14:05

50k btc sold under mkt value with unreleased results is a good way to lay the groundwork for intentional price plummet

14:05

gernika

There must be some convoluted explanation as to why that's OK though

14:05

because they said so?

14:06

xanthyos: http://qntra.net/2014/11/buterins-waterfall-a-likbez

14:06

Buterin's Waterfall, a Likbez | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1HaJiDN )

14:10

;;later tell Pierre_Rochard You ask questions on twitter that have answers here

14:10

The operation succeeded.

14:10

BingoBoingo: just trollin around haha

14:11

!s bitcoingirl

14:11

216 results for 'bitcoingirl' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitcoingirl

14:11

;;seen bitcoingirl

14:11

Person from Digital Currency Council sent me a message on linkedin telling me I should pay them for training

14:11

bitcoingirl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 weeks, 0 days, 20 hours, 57 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <bitcoingirl> the shavers case hasn't gone to trial yet

14:12

would love to see someone drop 50k or so bitcoin on an "exchange" prior to this auction

14:12

Pierre_Rochard: Tell then you know a guy, rates are more favorable. Say here's the contact info and just give them my GPG fingerprint

14:13

“I don't see you in the WoT: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratings.php Do you have a nickname you're using?” <- my response

14:13

is bitcoingirl Lee Bard?

14:13

Pierre_Rochard: bitcoingirl is Ms Boring

14:13

Ah, she’s dgitial chamber of commerce

14:14

Ah, there's so many of these DCC's now

14:14

digital currency council is another pretend thing, they want to be a professional organization

14:14

yeah, they got tired of bit that and coin this, it’s all digital currency now

14:15

that’s what passes for originality

14:15

'digital currencies' << a variant of the 'teach the controversy' propaganda technique discussed here earlier. create a category where there only exists a concrete.

14:15

!s teaching the controversy

14:15

5 results for 'teaching the controversy' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=teaching+the+controversy

14:16

Pierre_Rochard: Well if you can figure out who they are feel free to submit a likbez to Qntra

14:16

that mr. rochard, so hot righ tnow

14:16

need to sell turds, when folks are asking for sausages? declare that now people shall eat 'cylindricals'

14:16

that's fucked up asciilifeform

14:17

presto! turds are now 'a type of cylindrical' and by implication will stand in for sausage

14:17

i've been terrified by that ever since I saw Soylent Green

14:18

haha, exactly. These people will tell you “well Ethereum and Ripple seem to be gaining traction, so Bitcon may not be ~the~ digital currency, we need to stay flexible”

14:18

thestringpuller: Don't worry. You don't need meat. Protein is fine, have Prion jerky!

14:20

<mircea_popescu> [20141117 16:05] you can wait few hours for mircea_popescu and ask him << how does jurov know!! << lol should i ask them outright to submit the buxom? i need the codes then :D

14:23

BingoBoingo: understand the subtle but important distinction. they will have you believe that it -is- meat.

14:24

BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-11-2014#926251

14:24

Logged on 17-11-2014 04:35:56; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they wish to steal not merely the farmer's cow, but to also steal the farmer's "having being stolen from" << usg (and the 'enlightenment') in one sentence.

14:25

asciilifeform: Ah.

14:25

I have to stumble through the variations of these forms

14:28

http://i.imgur.com/dB7lg3y.jpg

14:28

... ( http://bit.ly/11e7JPH )

14:28

<+asciilifeform> need to sell turds, when folks are asking for sausages? declare that now people shall eat 'cylindricals' <<< amazing

14:28

AMAZING COMPANY!

14:29

"in a chocolatey coating"

14:29

the y stands for sodium benzoate, vegetable oil, and a special evaporative process that removes all cocoa

14:29

nubbins`: That sets expectations for flavor. Just go with a "creamy" coating.

14:30

with a brown, easily meltable coating

14:30

wait now we're selling turds again

14:32

bbl buying ingredients for 김치 찌개

14:33

nubbins`: puffins, radio waves, wat?

14:34

http://i.imgur.com/K2pIfWL.jpg

14:34

... ( http://bit.ly/1HaSrfA )

14:37

nubbins`: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/33346/33346-h/33346-h.htm << relevant

14:37

The Project Gutenberg eBook of How to tell the Birds from the Flowers and other Wood-cuts, by Robert Williams Wood. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HaTcVI )

14:37

hah, awesome.

14:38

We recognize the Parrot by his clear articulation, For Carrots are unable to engage in conversation.

14:39

!s likbez

14:39

12 results for 'likbez' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=likbez

14:40

<xanthyos> if someone's gpg key is on a computer that is being held captive by an angry muslim ex boyfriend and they make a new wot account and then later recover the old key, can the ratings of those two accounts be merged? << how would an observer distinguish this situation from "angry muslim ex boyfriend finally manages to break into gpg key on ex gf's computer he hedl" ?

14:41

<mike_c> how is this legal? << the law of "no way out"

14:43

Series A blocks consist of 2,000 coins and a deposit of $100,000 is required per bid entered on Series A. <<< 10%. ie, "MP was right".

14:43

Bids that are contingent on financing terms of any kind will not be considered.<< funny what the usg thinks of its own banking industry anyway :D

14:44

The United States Marshals Service reserves the right to sell some, all or none of the bitcoins for any reason. There is no disclosed reserve price for this auction.< << check the shit out. "secret reserve, will not announce winner".

14:45

chumpatronics at its finest, "we would like a list of rich people interested in bitcoin, mind sending us a signed form ?" / "hey, USMS can implement tardstalk scam actions too! We even hired Garr as an expert consultant"

14:48

Even has the name perversion thing going on too: Ebama/Thermos

14:49

Ollama

14:52

!up TheShrander

14:54

chetty

wyatt earp would be horrified

14:56

http://qntra.net/2014/11/rick-snyder-announces-michigan-cyber-civilian-corps/

14:56

Rick Snyder Announces Michigan Cyber Civilian Corps | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/11ebzrV )

14:57

http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/272087/speedreads-manufacturers-warn-that-the-world-may-soon-run-out-of-chocolate

scoopbot doesn't got the scoop yet?

14:57

chetty

14:58

Manufacturers warn that the world may soon run out of chocolate - The Week ... ( http://bit.ly/11ebKDA )

14:58

^ Blame Obola

~ 19 minutes ~

15:18

mircea_popescu: sorry for vanishing, had to tend to some fires, and put out other ones

15:18

kik

15:19

http://trilema.com/2014/the-united-states-scammers-service-formerly-marshalls-service/

15:19

The United States Scammers Service, Formerly Marshalls Service. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/11eescc )

15:19

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-11-2014#926544 << putting signatures in pastebin... I guess the known plaintext aspect can be circumvented by only including the signature data, rather than a whole --clearsign

15:19

Logged on 17-11-2014 16:10:49; mircea_popescu: Adlai: i'm not a huge fan of leaving open the door to known-cleartext snooping through pastebin verification << le explain ?

15:20

adlai suppose i download your pubkey and encrypt "adlai is a poopyhead" to it five billion times.

15:20

this, iyo, has put me epsilon closer towards obtaining your priv key ?

15:20

that's a little different from what gribble gpg auth does

15:20

explain ?

15:21

maybe I'm doing it wrong, but ";;auth adlai" gives me a challenge string, and I need to reply ";;verify http://pastebin.com/blabla" with a signature for the challenge string, using my wot key

15:21

Pastebin.com Unknown Paste ID ... ( http://bit.ly/1oY7ROh )

15:21

yeah, you are.

15:21

<mircea_popescu> ;;eauth mircea_popescu

15:21

<gribble> Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452

15:21

... ( http://bit.ly/1oY7PG5 )

15:21

curl http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452|gpg

15:21

404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1oY7SBR )

15:23

ok, I was using ;;auth

15:23

science progressed :)

15:25

it's still more convenient to use ;;bcauth :P

15:26

;;later tell pete_dushenski btw, next time someone goes on the "marketing Bitcoin" kick, you can always use http://trilema.com/2014/the-usg-wasted-another-hundred-million-dollars-it-previously-stole-from-average-hard-working-us-citizens-nobody-cares/ : "Get lost and dont come back until you can either think or do something useful. Contrary to what you might have self-aggrandizingly imagined, we dont want you. Yo

15:26

The USG wasted another hundred million dollars it previously stole from average, hard working US citizens. Nobody cares. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1oY84AU )

15:26

Error: No closing quotation

15:26

u need us, of course, but thats an entirely different discussion.". it's what it's for.

15:26

gernika

to answer my own question above, the value of the coins in USD will be retained in escrow until the outcome of the case is decided.

15:26

adlai "convenient"

15:27

!up Pierre_Rochard

15:28

convenience is king, the rest is bunk

15:28

your king is nude.

15:30

"Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." - sammy C

15:39

adlai http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/kim-kardashian-butt-papermag.jpg << tell it to her.

15:39

... ( http://bit.ly/11egWYk )

15:43

Kim acts out because she'll be irrelevant when her youth is gone.

15:43

Not everyone can be Betty White.

15:45

well, if "perfect butt, perfect shape" is your thing, then obviously it only lasts a little.

15:46

somehow people don't seem to say the same about athletes.

15:46

what the fuck do i care what maradona does after he's too old to play ?

15:46

I've heard the same about athletes, not uncommon

15:47

i'm certainly going to remember fuckable kim long after i forgot any and all sitcom writers for crying out loud.

15:48

kakobrekla: i trust myself only with a 9 << just as long as you find a kim to trust you with her 6.

15:49

kakobrekla: this raises a question, can schizophrenic even use pgp as intended? <<< well if he has split personality, then they won't know about each other's keys.

15:50

pls

15:50

xanthyos: 50k btc sold under mkt value with unreleased results is a good way to lay the groundwork for intentional price plummet <<< if it had worked.

15:50

schizophrenia does not exist

15:51

it's a made up concept to lump together a bunch of conditions that psych(olog|iatr)ists have epsilon understanding of

15:51

do tell ?

15:51

hm.

15:51

there is something there tho.

15:51

but otherwise, sure.

15:51

there are several somethings

15:52

mayhap.

15:52

no, seriously. some big association of mental scientists (lol) recently admitted that they have nfc what schizophrenia actually is, and that they should probably drop the term and start analyzing the conditions it refers to from a blank page

15:54

adlai the derps in question make no difference. but, yeah, the problem has long stood.

15:54

asciilifeform: need to sell turds, when folks are asking for sausages? declare that now people shall eat 'cylindricals' << not bad.

15:55

"beverage" comes to mind. because yeah, carbonated high fructose corn syrup needs a thing to be, like water and wine.

15:55

jurov: i need the codes then :D << you know i just use the webirc hostmask they come in with right ?

15:56

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5#Schizophrenia_spectrum_and_other_psychotic_disorders << ok, they didn't officially delete it, but have been revising the definition to the point where it's about as precise as "batshit fucking crazy"

15:56

DSM-5 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1oY9RWM )

15:56

"they didn't officially delete it" < lol

15:56

the dsm has nothing to do with psychology.

15:57

it's an acceptable if overvoluminous textbook for treating broken bones.

15:57

it's a nice meta piece on psychologists

15:57

[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH2] 2600 @ 0.0012 = 3.12 BTC

15:57

lol

15:57

it gives you a resolution bound for the precision of mental disorder diagnosis

15:58

and now, off to play aurum blade, because i am getting retarded in my old age.

15:58

(but seriously, if you, like me are a fan of the old amiga stuff, with HARD mobs and tough as nail bosses etc ? try it.)

15:59

you're not retarted, you're centenariophrenic

16:01

;;nethash

16:01

292934223.302

16:03

"... Now we should call them economical numbers"

16:03

;;seen BingoBoingo

16:03

BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 4 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> ^ Blame Obola

16:04

did bingo died of obbola?

16:04

mircea_popescu: you ever play dark souls?

16:09

seems BingoBoingo has been busy this morning and scooped me on the news before i was even awake

16:21

cazalla: now for round two

16:21

thestringpuller, need a few cuppas first

16:26

http://blog.snapchat.com/post/102895720555/introducing-snapcash

16:26

Snapchat - Introducing Snapcash ... ( http://bit.ly/11wnHW6 )

16:33

From the article "We set out to make payments faster and more fun!!!"

16:34

"For now, Snapcash is available to Snapchatters in the United States who have a debit card and are 18 or older." << there is such a thing?

16:37

the hipsters all use snapchat to send each other dick pics

16:38

here's a dick pick + some dollars

16:39

also aren't hipsters poor?

16:39

or dick pics for dollar, might work too

16:40

tits 4 snapcash!!!

16:40

and a DRM solution, to protect the assets.

16:41

well snapchat deletes your photo after its viewed doncha know***

16:41

suddenly the use case becomes clear.

16:42

that's very weak DRM, better would be scrambling signal to be decoded on google glasses, surgically embedded into user scalp.

~ 17 minutes ~

16:59

everything totally gotta be "fun"

17:04

I guess you will have to go to jail. If that is the result of not understanding the Income Tax Law, I will meet you there. We shall have a merry, merry time, for all our friends will be there. It will be an intellectual center, for no one understands the Income Tax Law except persons who have not sufficient intelligence to understand the questions that arise under it.

17:04

guess the yea.

17:04

drm glasses << http://www.loper-os.org/?p=752 (scroll down to story)

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17:04

Loper OS » For Your Eyes Only ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9cb16 )

17:04

year*

17:10

The welfare state reduces a citizen to a client, subordinates them to a bureaucrat, and subjects them to rules that are anti- work, anti-family, anti-opportunity and anti-property... Humans forced to suffer under such anti-human rules naturally develop pathologies. The evening news is the natural result of the welfare state.

17:10

im well persuaded by this, incidentally.

17:10

curious that the "advanced northern europe" isn't coming out with "brevik is pretty much our greatest achievement",

17:11

at least the us has the decency to worship its degenerates.

17:11

mircea_popescu reading herr kokkarinen ?

17:12

this came off http://jim.com/liberquo.htm

17:12

... ( http://bit.ly/1t5oyCO )

17:12

The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else. lol

17:14

you know, with the new pokemon game coming out in a few days time, idea of a bitcoin pokemon market would be great, could even have gpg pokemon contracts

17:14

you'll have to explain this like we've never been five

17:14

my idea of a pokemon is roughly speaking a beanie baby. what's to gpg there ?

17:19

for trading pokemon, you know, so i can point and say hey, you said you would deliver pokemon xyz and you decided to back out at the last minute, don't trade with this guy

17:20

oh they're like playing cards ?

17:20

pokemon was also a card game back in the day, like Magic. Not sure if he's talking about software game

17:20

i suppose someone who knows about trading cards could re-make mtgox.

17:21

it was a gameboy game first; you could trade via the connection cable

17:21

mircea_popescu, never played pokemon? so you catch them as you would say find an item in an mmorpg, you train em, level em up, you can trade them as you would an item in an mmorpg to other players

17:21

aha

17:21

no, i never played such a thing.

17:21

i doubt there is any demand for it but i would buy a desired pokemon for btc

17:21

what pokemon would you buy ?!

17:22

the rare mewtwo with alt colorz!

17:22

a shiny of course

17:23

i am partial to the original 150

17:23

i wonder if nintendo capitulated and will allow 2 male pokemon to make a baby pokemon

17:23

the amount of "work" that goes into finding a shiny would put it in the 1 to 10 BTC range

17:24

o.O

17:25

all these fucktarded nsa "codewords". it would not surprise me if the central nodes in the administration of all this perpetually overbudget, perpetually mismanaged nonsense are desocialised to the point they can no longer interact with people in a shop or bar or w/e

17:26

exactly like star trek ninnies, speaking a wholly unintelligible pigdin and laughing out of the blue for nutty reasons.

17:26

like Clockwork Orange?

17:26

pressure tube metrogripe toyfucks ?

17:27

keycard fashioncleft!

17:27

like the yale-tards i overheard at louis lunch the other day? like it was their first time interacting with people outside of acedemia?

17:28

something like that.

17:33

http://www.augur.net/

17:33

Augur Project ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9jJRs )

17:33

mebe you nintendo could even use blockchain technology to timestamp when you found a pokemon so no-one can sell you dupes

17:34

could call it.. the brockchain

17:35

NintendoCoin obvs

17:41

"The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce it has received a $1,000,000 donation from Jan Koum, CEO and Co-Founder of WhatsApp. This marks the largest single donation to the Foundation since its inception almost 15 years ago"

17:49

http://blockstream.com/2014/11/17/blockstream-closes-21m-seed-round/

17:49

Blockstream closes $21M seed round | Blockstream ... ( http://bit.ly/1qgDQdi )

17:49

gmaxwell's thing

17:52

"The reason we were able to attract A-list investors is our group of founders and the promise of blockchain technology."

17:53

http://blockstream.com/wp-content/themes/blockstream/assets/images/D5.png

17:53

... ( http://bit.ly/1xJwDCm )

17:54

what a nice picture

17:54

blockstream << archetypical shitgnome circus

17:56

this is the impression i'm getting, too.

17:57

funny how one can almost 'smell' these, without any need for detailed study

17:57

cazalla: a pokemon exchange?!? lol. i think I may be the only one in this channel who plays pokemon.

17:58

no doubt

17:59

<cazalla> could call it.. the brockchain <<< lale

18:00

asciilifeform: blockstream << lol i look at the founders page and of course gmaxwell is on it

18:00

i propose that pseudo-bitcoin scamatrons be known as 'mockchains'

18:00

heh

18:00

its funny to see who is employing these "core developers"

18:01

its like "the only thing I can do is work for cash burning start up or suck dick"

18:02

hey 20 million bezzlars, that's gotta last them at least a year

18:02

so they run out of money not finding useful stuff to do and ask for more. so does this make all the core developers essentially beggars?

18:04

a beggar is not one who accepts money but one who begs for it

18:04

asciilifeform re: that book you posted earlier

18:04

they match puffin with "nuffin"

18:04

and leave a blank space in lieu of a picture 8)

18:06

punkbot these deals always depend on how much they actually get.

18:07

;;later tell ben_vulpes http://www.loper-os.org/pub/debug.log.gz << barf log from one of my runs.

18:07

... ( http://bit.ly/1xJyYNx )

18:07

The operation succeeded.

18:17

downloading blockchain, take three. go!

18:17

gl!

18:18

http://qntra.net/2014/11/coinvault-decrypt-one-file-for-free-send-bitcoin-to-decrypt-the-rest/

18:18

CoinVault: Decrypt One File For Free, Send Bitcoin To Decrypt The Rest | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/11wH1T4 )

18:19

thinking about making a pgp infographic-type poster

18:19

gotta find a neat angle on it tho

18:19

asciilifeform: i propose that pseudo-bitcoin scamatrons be known as 'mockchains' <<< why you gotta try oneup my brockchain :(

18:20

you could stream pokemon trades through ashbot

18:21

haha

18:21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Izm1LQfw4

18:21

Pikachu on Acid - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1xJBCTs )

~ 27 minutes ~

18:49

actually, someone should make a backup service, exactly identical to tarsnap except it only accepts material gpg-encrypted to your key.

18:51

what is the speed like on encrypting large files?

18:52

with gpg*

18:53

http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/56167/why-is-gpg-file-encryption-so-much-slower-than-other-aes-implementations << says GPG encrypts at 115 mb/s on an i7 2.7 ghz

18:53

on the current, symetric cypher based process, not bad. to the tune gbps depending on your system specs

18:54

thestringpuller note that the question is leading. sure, "aes optimised" hardware may deliver better performance, at an unknown cost to security.

18:55

i guess maybe that is first test I will run on cardano: get arbritarily large file and find rate at which it decrypts/encrypts

18:55

serve as good baseline methinks

18:57

cardano storage isn't very large.

18:57

so timing it won't be trivial.

18:59

The legacy of Democrats and Republicans approaches: Libertarianism by bankruptcy.

18:59

Nick Nuessle, 1992

19:00

who da fuck is this nick ? he knew it plain two decades prior.

19:04

Oh, for an honest Libertarian who would say "Yes, in Libertopia we'd have rampant quackery, organ-seizure, baby-selling, slavery in all but name - BUT THAT'S FREEDOM!" ~Seth Finkelstein

19:05

as it happens, i've been saying exactly that. course, the honest libertarian apparently doesn't personally use the terminology of some random polis to describe himself, nor does the random polis readily recognize him, and so... seth's safe.

19:09

We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest. ~Stephen Schneider, environmental activist, in _Discover_, Oct. '89

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19:09

aaand

19:09

Independent self-reliant people would be a counterproductive anachronism in the collective society of the future where people will be defined by their associations. 1896 ~John Dewey, of the dewey system.

19:10

and on that note, gnite all!

~ 15 minutes ~

19:26

!up cryptoflood

~ 27 minutes ~

19:54

thestringpuller: find rate at which it decrypts/encrypts << not built for speed.

19:55

still good metric to have if you expect to decrypt backup from it

19:59

'That the powers that be may have made it somehow understood that full disclosure might carry undisclosed, but very dire consequences indeed.' << lol

19:59

^ http://cryptome.org/2014/11/all-snowden-papers.htm

19:59

... ( http://bit.ly/1xRAn5z )

20:06

asciilifeform: current political footballs include immigration and climate change...

20:07

seems like he could've leaked us having gas chambers and the response would've been similar

20:08

undata: one hypothesis is that the average chump has a limited width 'revelation register' that easily overflows.

20:08

asciilifeform: could be

20:08

undata: note, for instance, the reaction to the (ancient - 1970s) leak of u.s. having (empty) concentration camps, complete with concertina wire, waiting

20:09

the reaction is, invariably, 'you nutter'

20:09