00:57 |
ben_vulpes |
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuvUaFp_qMQ |
00:57 |
assbot |
Classical orchestra eating the worlds hottest chili peppers ... - YouTube |
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01:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00073618 = 12.331 BTC [+] {2} |
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01:34 |
mircea_popescu |
!up PwrSrg |
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01:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00073763 = 2.6186 BTC [+] |
02:02 |
cazalla |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/price-fluctuations-and-the-use-of-bitcoin-an-empirical-inquiry/ |
02:02 |
assbot |
Price Fluctuations And The Use Of Bitcoin: An Empirical Inquiry | Qntra.net |
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02:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00073763 = 8.0033 BTC [+] |
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03:03 |
thestringpuller |
!up donpillou |
03:06 |
ben_vulpes |
!up Vexual |
03:06 |
ben_vulpes |
good evening, Vexual |
03:12 |
Vexual |
hi ben |
03:14 |
Vexual |
is there a new crockpot with instructions fund? that was funny |
03:18 |
thestringpuller |
is this real deedBot ? |
03:18 |
thestringpuller |
!up deedBot |
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04:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7766 @ 0.00079714 = 6.1906 BTC [+] |
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05:33 |
Naphex |
https://i.imgur.com/hPb06Eg.png |
05:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00079368 = 4.2065 BTC [-] |
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06:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5072 @ 0.00079368 = 4.0255 BTC [-] |
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07:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9786 @ 0.00079221 = 7.7526 BTC [-] |
07:30 |
mats_cd03 |
meow |
07:31 |
mats_cd03 |
so many soccer moms and scantily dressed lolis last night |
07:31 |
mats_cd03 |
america is a weird place man |
07:32 |
mats_cd03 |
no tits on tv but your 12 year old can walk around with her ass hangin out on halloween |
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08:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00078571 = 3.8893 BTC [-] |
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08:32 |
bounce |
"sexy walmart mom" costume? |
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08:51 |
chetty |
someone explain to me how all those feminists justify putting little girls scanty costumes? |
08:59 |
gabriel_laddel |
;; google site: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/ no self-respecting woman without make up |
08:59 |
assbot |
The Last Psychiatrist |
08:59 |
gribble |
No Self-Respecting Woman Would Go Out Without Make Up: <http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/01/no_self-respecting_woman_would.html>; The Last Psychiatrist: <http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/>; The Last Psychiatrist Archives: <http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/archives.html> |
09:05 |
thickasthieves |
;;rated apocalyptic |
09:05 |
gribble |
You have not yet rated user apocalyptic |
09:06 |
thickasthieves |
;;rate Apocalyptic 2 ATC support at x-bt.com, shut down without drama |
09:06 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user Apocalyptic has been recorded. |
09:06 |
thickasthieves |
now wtf to do with all these altoshis |
09:12 |
jurov |
thickasthieves: i have atc version of coinroll, you can have some fun :DDD |
09:14 |
thickasthieves |
would need atc/btc on coinbr or sumth tho |
09:15 |
jurov |
what? |
09:15 |
thickasthieves |
well what do i do with all my ATC once i win them all? |
09:15 |
thickasthieves |
stand on them and roaR? |
09:16 |
jurov |
that's as good as anything |
09:16 |
thickasthieves |
hehe |
09:16 |
jurov |
be sure to take a photo |
09:17 |
thickasthieves |
still some people mining it |
09:17 |
thickasthieves |
280gh |
09:18 |
thickasthieves |
thats like one whole BFL Monarch |
09:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00078594 = 2.8687 BTC [+] |
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09:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00078594 = 9.3134 BTC [+] |
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10:45 |
adlai |
"BitShares Music will be the first blockchain to be used by the masses" just shut up and take my money! |
10:47 |
adlai |
http://bitsharesmusicfoundation.org/assets/files/legal/Notes-Sale-Agreement.pdf ahaha looks like somebody got a lawyer |
10:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8164 @ 0.00078819 = 6.4348 BTC [+] |
10:58 |
kakobrekla |
also note who the receiver is http://bitsharesmusicfoundation.org/assets/images/misc/titan.jpg |
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11:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2721 @ 0.00079079 = 2.1517 BTC [+] |
11:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1355 @ 0.00079067 = 1.0714 BTC [-] |
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12:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8324 @ 0.00079067 = 6.5815 BTC [-] |
12:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00079259 = 4.3196 BTC [+] |
12:43 |
dignork |
adlai: bitsharemusic borrowed text from ethereum: http://dpaste.com/3CY9250 |
12:43 |
assbot |
dpaste: 3CY9250 |
12:47 |
* |
adlai reveals himself as having not even read the materials associated with ether |
12:48 |
dignork |
adlai: me neither, but this part seemed odd, so i googgled it. |
12:48 |
adlai |
what about it seems odd, it's perfectly reasonable for the people selling these things to fear for their asses and get old-fashioned legal advice |
12:52 |
dignork |
oh, the part of "additional processing power" seemed irrelevant to music foundation |
12:59 |
jurov |
maybe it's mining botnet in disguise |
13:03 |
kakobrekla |
it is i, le buttnet. |
13:05 |
ben_vulpes |
adlai are you getting nerdsniped by scamchains again? |
13:06 |
adlai |
reading up a little about WoL now, so you could say so :P |
13:07 |
ben_vulpes |
ka zing |
13:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2768 @ 0.00078769 = 2.1803 BTC [-] {3} |
13:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00078486 = 2.8647 BTC [-] |
13:24 |
ben_vulpes |
"I would like to inform anybody involved in this kinda thing, that there's a maximum penalty of $100,000, one-year in jail, or both," Phil Bradford, an FCC spokesman, told a reporter the following day. |
13:25 |
ben_vulpes |
phil doesn't quite get the notion of a maxmum, i warrant. |
13:32 |
ben_vulpes |
mats_cd03: it's too cold and wet around here for anything approaching a bacchanal |
13:33 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/31/atc-closing-statement/ |
13:33 |
assbot |
ATC Closing Statement | Bingo Blog |
13:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5877 @ 0.00078312 = 4.6024 BTC [-] |
13:39 |
BingoBoingo |
^ Note the update. |
13:43 |
mircea_popescu |
good mornin |
13:45 |
jurov |
evening |
13:45 |
mircea_popescu |
that also. |
13:54 |
BingoBoingo |
%t |
13:54 |
atcbot |
[X-BT] Bid: 9 Ask: 130 Last Price: 41 24h-Vol: 463k High: 55 Low: 41 VWAP: 47 |
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14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
hey, who were the muppets that closed recently, claiming they were spending 9k/month on servers among other thiungs ? qntra reported it |
14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
moolah.io ty. |
14:23 |
jurov |
was going to say bitcoinbourse.eu but they're still up |
14:24 |
jurov |
(cue: Buy: 0.00 € Sell: 0.00 € ) |
14:25 |
mircea_popescu |
so no pinguirker replacement sitll huh. |
14:26 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/mpex-smpoe-october-2014-statement/ |
14:26 |
assbot |
MPEx (S.MPOE) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
14:26 |
thestringpuller |
wow that's early |
14:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8851 @ 0.00078613 = 6.958 BTC [+] |
14:27 |
mircea_popescu |
1st neh ? |
14:27 |
mircea_popescu |
mats_cd03: so many soccer moms and scantily dressed lolis last night << where ? |
14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
Naphex: https://i.imgur.com/hPb06Eg.png <<< lol derpowiki page, seems oddly appropriate. |
14:28 |
gernika |
Regarding http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/, would the use of a Nash Equilibrium that does not rely on third parties mitigate the problem of the long con? |
14:28 |
assbot |
Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
14:29 |
mircea_popescu |
gernika you'll have to go into detail. make me a sample scenario ? |
14:30 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty: someone explain to me how all those feminists justify putting little girls scanty costumes? << "all men are pedophiles and rapists because the only feminine females left around are under 16 yo because we educate little girls to act like lolis and then after puberty we try and make them into obnoxious whales" ? |
14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
just takin' a shot. |
14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
thickasthieves: stand on them and roaR? << lol! |
14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
adlai: ahaha looks like somebody got a lawyer << and yet fucktards STILL use pdfs. sigh. |
14:33 |
mircea_popescu |
dignork: adlai: me neither, but this part seemed odd, so i googgled it. << such lmao. "hey, two bitcoin scams are the only things google could find online that used the same broken logic dressed in the same approximative verbiage. WHY COULD THS BE ?!?!?!" |
14:33 |
mircea_popescu |
clearly it's because ethereum was like all respectable and took like actual investment, rather than just pretending on both scores. |
14:34 |
adlai |
took/look? |
14:34 |
mircea_popescu |
no, took. from to take investment. mebbe needed a comma in there |
14:35 |
mircea_popescu |
"he fucked, like, a real woman" valley girl speak as opposed to "he fucked a real woman" nohomo bro speak |
14:35 |
adlai |
right right |
14:36 |
mircea_popescu |
"I would like to inform anybody involved in this kinda thing, that there's a maximum penalty of $100,000, one-year in jail, or both," Phil Bradford, an FCC spokesman, told a reporter the following day." << also appears on two spots on the interwebs. vice.com and b-a logs. thanks to the power of logic we now know ben_vulpes writes for motherboard. |
14:37 |
mircea_popescu |
AND I PISS ON THIS LOG. show me your honor, log! |
14:37 |
chetty |
<mircea_popescu> chetty: someone explain to me how all those feminists justify putting little girls scanty costumes? << "all men are pedophiles and rapists because the only feminine females left around are under 16 yo because we educate little girls to act like lolis and then after puberty we try and make them into obnoxious whales" ?// ?? we is all men? interesting and does explain much but still doesn't explain the mommy behavior dressing them |
14:37 |
chetty |
like that |
14:38 |
jurov |
moms project theri desires into daughters? |
14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
you don't understand how thw world works. "mom" would like a place to drop off the kid while she does "other things". (no, i don't mean fucking. if only. i mean going around shitty clothes shops in the mall and feeling each individual item buyt not buying anything, then hitting the food court) |
14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
so they offer this service, "drop off your kids for an afternoon and get five double cheeseburger mchappy meals" |
14:39 |
gernika |
mircea_popescu for example, Alice builds up a good reputation in the WoT. Then in some large transaction Alice absconds with Bob's BTC and fails to deliver the goods. If the same transaction were instead executed in such a way that if either party fails to deliver, both Alice and Bob would lose an amount of btc equal to the value of the item being purchased, would that then prevent Alice from sacrificing her WoT rating to |
14:39 |
gernika |
cheat someone in a large transaction? |
14:40 |
mircea_popescu |
gernika the case you're proposing is already out of scope, because the wot is intended to be used with middle transactions. so if alice trades 100 btc a month for two years, trusting alice with 200 in one go is okay. trusting her with 5k is absurd, |
14:40 |
mircea_popescu |
and in fact reduces to a not-using-wot situation. |
14:41 |
chetty |
gernika, what does wot have to do with that? everyday common trust question |
14:41 |
mircea_popescu |
basically you're saying "if people weren't using the wot how could their actions not impact the wot'. well... they already don't. |
14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
just to make sure we're on the same page here, have you read http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ ? |
14:42 |
assbot |
What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
14:44 |
jurov |
!mpif |
14:44 |
assbot |
BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021818 B (Total: 477.11 B). Delta: -0.38 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000195 BTC [-] |
14:44 |
jurov |
!t m f.mpif |
14:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0.000195 / 0.000195 / 0.000195 (274 shares, 0.05 BTC), 7D: 0.000195 / 0.000195 / 0.000195 (274 shares, 0.05 BTC), 30D: 0.000195 / 0.00019715 / 0.00020614 (47439 shares, 9.35 BTC) |
14:46 |
mats_cd03 |
mircea_popescu: cambridge |
14:46 |
mircea_popescu |
hm ? |
14:46 |
mats_cd03 |
14:27:58 <+mircea_popescu> mats_cd03: so many soccer moms and scantily dressed lolis last night << where ? |
14:47 |
mircea_popescu |
oh oh |
14:47 |
gernika |
mircea_popescu Ah ok. Got it. Didn't think about how people would evaluate the WoT differently for different magnitudes of transactions. It actually does help with the long con problem. So one could do 50 1 btw transactions, then steal the last btc, but that's about all. Yes I've read what-the-wot... |
14:47 |
mircea_popescu |
you mean lolis as in freshman, 19yo womenz mats_cd03 ?! |
14:47 |
gernika |
s/btw/btc |
14:48 |
mats_cd03 |
no i mean 12 year olds, girls |
14:48 |
mircea_popescu |
gernika well, one could put the time in to build himself and steal some, but the idea is that he wouldn't really manage to steal more than what not stealing is worth on a discouinted basis for him. |
14:48 |
mats_cd03 |
altho there were plenty of freshmen walking around |
14:48 |
mircea_popescu |
which is why people who pretend to trade but aren't in the wot, and ESPECIALLY people who pretend to raise capital/issue equity but have no experience whatsoever are suspect. |
14:48 |
mircea_popescu |
they HAVE TO BE frauds, pure and simple, there's no logical alternative. |
14:49 |
mircea_popescu |
mats_cd03 da fuck are 12yos doing on campus anyway |
14:49 |
mats_cd03 |
things overheard last night: 'we should find some MIT guys, they're, like, going to rule the world. but, really!' |
14:50 |
mats_cd03 |
i was in a few residential neighborhoods close-ish to somerville, so... kids |
14:50 |
mircea_popescu |
ah ah |
14:50 |
mircea_popescu |
isn't it fucking cold in east fucking anglia, nov 1st ? |
14:51 |
gernika |
mircea_popescu So in order for someone to get rated for a more valuable interaction than they have ever participated in before, someone else always needs to take a risk, correct? |
14:51 |
mircea_popescu |
gernika exaclty, and in wot-terms he makes a trust donation to the wot and to his partner. |
14:51 |
mats_cd03 |
it was ~40F, plenty warm enough. chicks around here walk around in shirts and a belt in january, ~15F, on friday nights |
14:52 |
mircea_popescu |
gernika the situation being exactly equivalent to when they first joined the wot, had no ratings. |
14:52 |
mats_cd03 |
getting laid is more important than warmth. |
14:52 |
mircea_popescu |
because in practical terms, they DO have no ratings, for that level. |
14:53 |
mircea_popescu |
mats_cd03 in fairness, i dun think it's sluttiness, i think its simple use. you should see the chicks here, it rained two days ago, it was like... i dunno, 18 instead of 23 celsisus ? COATS! shivering! everyone destroyed omg it's so cold. |
14:53 |
gernika |
mircea_popescu Would a nash equilibrium based exchange in THAT case be of use? Or would it nullify the donation to the wot? |
14:54 |
mircea_popescu |
gernika it seems to me the wot is already generating it's own equilibrium, not clear to me what you mean by "nash equilibrium based exchange" |
14:54 |
mircea_popescu |
we're back to give me an example. |
14:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2999 @ 0.00079134 = 2.3732 BTC [+] |
14:55 |
mircea_popescu |
http://oglaf.com/weirdwoman/ << every wise old hag starts out in life like this |
14:55 |
assbot |
the Weird Woman |
15:02 |
mircea_popescu |
http://media.oglaf.com/loglines/flight-mode.gif |
15:07 |
mircea_popescu |
http://oglaf.com/delivery/ << bwahhah chetty, were you asking about the mothers ? there's the mother! |
15:07 |
assbot |
delivery |
15:07 |
mircea_popescu |
i seriously think that comic pretty much illustrates the mental process of the libertard us female. she has a little girl that grows up to be a man |
15:07 |
mircea_popescu |
that takes it in the ass. |
15:08 |
gernika |
mircea_popescu So in a case where two parties have no information about each other (which is essentially the same as when one party is in the WoT and one isn't, or when one party wants to do a trade they're not rated for), a nash equilibrium allows a way to incentivize both parties to complete the transaction faithfully by forcing both parties to risk the value of the item being traded contingent on the trade being completed |
15:08 |
gernika |
successfully. It would work like this: Alice wants to sell her gold for btc. She puts 1 oz of gold worth of btc in Chad's basket. Bob puts 2 oz. of gold worth of btc in Chad's basket. Alice gives Bob her gold. Bob refuses to give Alice her 1 oz of gold worth of btc. Chad threatens to throw his basket over the cliff. Bob reluctantly give alice 1 oz of gold worth of btc. Chad gives everyone back their stuff from the |
15:08 |
gernika |
basket. |
15:08 |
mircea_popescu |
you're describing an escrow. |
15:09 |
gernika |
Well, an escrow that doesn't make any decision in the event of a dispute except to say both parties are out their escrow. |
15:09 |
mircea_popescu |
if that's what you mean best call it escrow, because the bitcoin crowd (esp here) is highly technical and the nash reference sends people mentally exploring large swaths of math theory. |
15:09 |
mircea_popescu |
right. that's how escrow actually works. "come back when you agree" |
15:10 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway! this is how services such as localbitcoins work. |
15:10 |
gernika |
Also, this escrow can be done without a third party |
15:10 |
mircea_popescu |
the problem are all the edge cases. did you catch that discussion in the logs, as to what localbitcoins is vulnerable to ? |
15:10 |
gernika |
via multisig transactions |
15:10 |
mircea_popescu |
no, it can not, because you can't multisig dollars, or bars of gold. |
15:12 |
gernika |
But you don't need to. The seller puts the value of their item in btc in escrow. The buyer puts double the value of the item in btc in escrow. |
15:12 |
mircea_popescu |
o.O |
15:12 |
gernika |
The seller then ships the item. |
15:13 |
mircea_popescu |
are you aware that trade as-is is credit-supported so people don't actually need to put up even the actual value of the items ? |
15:13 |
mircea_popescu |
that's why international trade happens on the basis of locs and so forth. |
15:13 |
mircea_popescu |
you're going the other wa |
15:15 |
gernika |
I have seen discussion of that on Trilema, I believe. Doesn't that arrangement depend on a trusted third party? The creditor? |
15:15 |
mircea_popescu |
yes. |
15:16 |
mircea_popescu |
gernika let me illustrate the problem of trust and the limits of the universe to you with a risque comic. |
15:16 |
mircea_popescu |
here it is : http://oglaf.com/homecoming/ |
15:16 |
assbot |
homecoming |
15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
now, in this comic, trudy cooper makes the excellent point that resources are scarce, whereas trust cheap. |
15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
so, in any practical situaiton, a solution that relies on trust will outperform a solution that relies on expenditure. |
15:22 |
gernika |
Hmm yes. Trust *is* cheap. |
15:22 |
mircea_popescu |
now, fucking could consist of the girl getting another cock and the guy getting another cunt to sit and watch them while they do it. |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
this wasteful system has actually been implemented in practice, it's what victorian england was all about |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
HOWEVER it is not a stable solution. because wasteful, fundamentally. |
15:25 |
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15:27 |
gernika |
I suppose in my mind I conflated being forced to trust certain third parties (my "elected" representative, my bank, the Federal Reserve) and voluntarily trusting random ebay sellers. |
15:28 |
mircea_popescu |
http://pastebin.com/PnsGiZ2A <<< dude... this is just what i do. i save the people who save people from FIRE |
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15:28 |
assbot |
Subject: Re: You've been hacked. From: * Date: Sat, November 1, 2014 2:55 - Pastebin.com |
15:29 |
mircea_popescu |
gernika yeah, forced trust is no trust at all. |
15:29 |
mircea_popescu |
which is why the entire democratic blabla about "social contracts" and whatnot is so laughable. |
15:30 |
mircea_popescu |
"o hey, you're part of a contract you enver signed lol!" |
15:30 |
bounce |
Y U SUCH HAXX0R |
15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce nah, see, most recend attempt at ddosing qntra used a large number of broken-into websites. |
15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
which i've been notifying. |
15:31 |
gernika |
So what is the term or concept for forced trust in third parties? |
15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
gernika rape works. |
15:31 |
gernika |
lol |
15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
technically forced thrust, but still. |
15:32 |
gernika |
It's the sort of trust that you think is trust at first, then realize you have no other options later. |
15:32 |
bounce |
how is that "trust"? o_O? |
15:32 |
mircea_popescu |
then that's anti-rape. rape seems to be this thing where you think you have no options at first, then later you realise that you did so you go and denounce the fucker. |
15:33 |
gernika |
bounce it's not trust, just not sure what it is. Anti-rape. Will consider that. |
15:35 |
gernika |
A world where you appear to have a bunch of choices, but in fact you have only one and it sucks. |
15:35 |
mircea_popescu |
o, that's just how the world works!!1 |
15:35 |
mircea_popescu |
now you understand how the world works. unlike putin! |
15:36 |
mircea_popescu |
gernika on a more serious note, this is a problem familiar from game design. you can either have choice or stability, not both. systems that are to any degree stable only achieve this stability by denying choice correspondingly. |
15:36 |
bounce |
what was that game again, "diplomacy" |
15:37 |
mircea_popescu |
all games are that game again. matrimony too. |
15:37 |
bounce |
well, no |
15:37 |
mircea_popescu |
a challenge appears ? |
15:38 |
bounce |
you're trying your hand at english where mark twain tried at german, by proposing to replace all words with just "slag" and "zug". |
15:39 |
mircea_popescu |
choice of words is a poor simile for choice of action. |
15:40 |
mircea_popescu |
mostly because (blessfully) representation is toothless upon reality. |
15:40 |
bounce |
even so not all games are one and the same |
15:40 |
mircea_popescu |
with respect to choice and stability ? yeah they are. |
15:40 |
mircea_popescu |
this is like saying all naming conventions are the same to zooko's triangle. |
15:46 |
mthreat |
Patagonia is nice - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hkl1IsY2UA |
15:46 |
assbot |
Hyperlapse of boat ride on Lake Lacar back to San Martin de Los Andes - YouTube |
15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
o you took off already ? |
15:47 |
mthreat |
ya, a few days ago |
15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
how cold is it ? |
15:48 |
mthreat |
it's snowing right now, which is very unusual for this time of year here. |
15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah it';s colder than usual up here too. |
15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking pleasant weather. |
15:50 |
mthreat |
going to Bariloche tomorrow, and should pass through Villa la Angostura, by Hitler's supposed house there |
15:50 |
mircea_popescu |
"hitler slept here" lol |
15:51 |
mthreat |
the house is for sale, I expect to see it on BitPremier soon ;) |
15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
asking for way too much dough. |
| |
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16:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00078398 = 4.0375 BTC [-] |
16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google buenos aires bdsm |
16:35 |
gribble |
BDSM Buenos Aires Mistress Oriana - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPejTVtFoF0>; Buenos Aires BDSM : La Casona del Sado, aka Faker House - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2014/buenos-aires-bdsm-la-casona-del-sado-aka-faker-house/>; BDSM. - Buenos Aires | Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/pages/BDSM-Buenos-Aires/457879384268308?_fb_noscript=1> |
16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
holy shit srsly ? |
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17:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00078398 = 12.4261 BTC [-] |
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17:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00078398 = 8.1534 BTC [-] |
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18:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00078398 = 7.683 BTC [-] |
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18:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5868 @ 0.00077977 = 4.5757 BTC [-] |
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19:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8374 @ 0.00077883 = 6.5219 BTC [-] {2} |
19:30 |
cazalla |
so october is 1 month down for qntra, if anyone has criticism as well as feedback on what you liked/disliked and want to see more/less of, i'm all ears |
19:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00077913 = 2.3374 BTC [+] |
19:35 |
punkman |
cazalla: some longer pieces maybe |
19:35 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/minigame-smg-october-2014-statement/ |
19:35 |
assbot |
MiniGame (S.MG), October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
19:35 |
punkman |
uh oh gotta get that bot up |
19:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12927 @ 0.00077826 = 10.0606 BTC [-] {2} |
19:36 |
mircea_popescu |
which one ? |
19:36 |
punkman |
the punkbot |
19:36 |
mircea_popescu |
ah yes. what's up with that. |
19:37 |
punkman |
it had surgery, testing now |
19:37 |
punkman |
;;tslb |
19:37 |
gribble |
Time since last block: 23 minutes and 33 seconds |
19:38 |
mircea_popescu |
testing is for fiats. |
19:47 |
punkman |
;;tslb |
19:47 |
gribble |
Time since last block: 5 minutes and 17 seconds |
19:48 |
punkman |
hmm, missed the block |
19:49 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Zebetus |
19:55 |
mircea_popescu |
http://pastebin.com/gjyG2Wwk << ustardian goes on a "first date", blows it. because racism. |
| |
↖ |
19:55 |
assbot |
From okcupid (just to also shoot down my own insistence about how good it is!) I - Pastebin.com |
19:56 |
kakobrekla |
http://i.imgur.com/IEGMg2j.png wink wink nudge nudge |
19:57 |
gernika |
cazalla I like the background given on investors and founders involved in the startups covered. Don't have a specific example in mind, but I like the digging. |
19:57 |
punkman |
kakobrekla: I ran the backtest on more recent bets, ALLNO was negative |
19:57 |
kakobrekla |
hah! |
19:58 |
mircea_popescu |
charting dun werk ? o noes |
19:59 |
kakobrekla |
charting? |
20:00 |
mircea_popescu |
well what is this "all history shows property X so therefore future will too" ? |
20:00 |
punkman |
I had theories! |
20:01 |
kakobrekla |
the reasoning: only close bets make it to bitbet and humanity is mostly a fail |
20:01 |
mircea_popescu |
the therrorists win ? |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla lol not bad! |
20:02 |
punkman |
on another note, punkbot is alive again, yay |
20:03 |
mircea_popescu |
a cool. |
20:03 |
punkman |
cooked some ribeyes from the americas, debugged while digesting |
20:03 |
punkman |
unfortunately from north americas |
20:04 |
mircea_popescu |
a digestabugging! |
20:04 |
punkman |
I like it |
20:04 |
* |
mats_cd03 lights a bowl |
20:05 |
mats_cd03 |
aaand now to install obsd 5.6 |
20:05 |
punkman |
good times |
20:05 |
mircea_popescu |
http://oglaf.com/submission/ << mainstream bdsm. |
20:05 |
assbot |
Submission |
20:06 |
* |
jurov is debugging a turdatron. don't want to make verbs from it |
20:07 |
jurov |
any idea how to quickly dump contents fo sqlite into HTML? |
20:07 |
jurov |
there are jsut two tables, patches and sigs |
20:08 |
mircea_popescu |
i thought it had a html export baked in |
20:10 |
jurov |
oh yes, it does! |
20:10 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm so good at solving problems that don't exist. |
20:11 |
jurov |
cue bash #305 :D |
20:11 |
punkman |
jurov: you can do that from sqlite shell |
20:12 |
punkman |
.mode html |
20:24 |
kakobrekla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-09-2014#831155 |
20:24 |
assbot |
Logged on 16-09-2014 17:28:54; kakobrekla: how do you measure success |
20:24 |
kakobrekla |
found my answer, sorta: >Our staffing costs alone run $45,000 a month. Our hosting costs for September were $8,500. |
20:24 |
mircea_popescu |
that's how you measure public idiocy, |
20:25 |
mircea_popescu |
by looking at what scammers claim as part of their scamtext, you can guess what the general sea of idiots imagines is going on. |
20:25 |
kakobrekla |
clearly |
20:26 |
kakobrekla |
i can easily make bitbet spend 45k a month |
20:26 |
kakobrekla |
:) |
20:26 |
kakobrekla |
or 8.5k to be fair. |
20:26 |
kakobrekla |
45 would be challenging. |
20:27 |
mircea_popescu |
you're too young to pay for women. |
20:27 |
punkman |
;;ticker |
20:27 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 323.24, Best ask: 324.2, Bid-ask spread: 0.96000, Last trade: 324.21, 24 hour volume: 15042.34159385, 24 hour low: 316.61, 24 hour high: 339.47, 24 hour vwap: 326.688260005 |
20:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10943 @ 0.00077913 = 8.526 BTC [+] |
20:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11402 @ 0.00078087 = 8.9035 BTC [+] |
20:33 |
xiando |
$102000/year for hosting, uhm exactly what do they claim to be hosting there.. facebook? google? yahoo? |
20:34 |
xiando |
I guess it makes sense if you don't have a bunch of servers and websites yourself |
20:34 |
mircea_popescu |
it makes exactly no sense, unless you're from reddit. |
20:35 |
xiando |
perhaps if you're hosting reddit (even then it seems like a lot) |
20:38 |
kakobrekla |
you're too young to pay for women. < oh oh i see, young enough to emulate em |
20:39 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
20:40 |
xiando |
you'd be mostly paying not to have anything more to do with them imho, if you just want one for the night then there's plenty at the local bars |
20:40 |
mircea_popescu |
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_OVtOM-JqUfA/SdISYu2icDI/AAAAAAAAIPQ/puqOfJnQkfA/s800/ZN_Emu3.jpg << this is emu-lating, for the record. |
20:41 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, you know we had a great emu war in australia.. that we lost |
20:41 |
mircea_popescu |
did you lose it pleasurably ? |
20:42 |
cazalla |
the army machine gunned the emus but it wasn't enough |
20:43 |
cazalla |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War |
20:43 |
assbot |
Emu War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
20:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00078523 = 14.7623 BTC [+] {2} |
20:48 |
assbot |
ninjashogun +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -4 |
20:49 |
punkman |
how do you cut big blocks of chocolate into less unwieldy pieces? |
20:50 |
mircea_popescu |
if its any good, you crack it against a large marble slab. |
20:51 |
punkman |
it's a piece from one of those 10kg blocks, says Callebaut |
20:52 |
punkman |
guess that might be better than heated knife |
20:52 |
mircea_popescu |
meh, belgian. they oversweet their shit. |
20:52 |
mircea_popescu |
but anyway, yeah, sure. crack it on the countertop. |
20:56 |
punkman |
was same price as some Nestle shit, and not much sugar, not a bad deal |
20:58 |
cazalla |
choc i buy down here uses agave nectar, pretty nice stuff |
20:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4205 @ 0.00078376 = 3.2957 BTC [-] |
20:58 |
punkman |
!up ninjashogun |
20:58 |
cazalla |
http://www.panachocolate.com/eighty/ a little expensive but worth it |
20:58 |
assbot |
Eighty - Pana Chocolate Store |
20:59 |
ninjashogun |
thanks. I asked for voice to request this: |
20:59 |
ninjashogun |
<ninjashogun> hi - could I ask you to remove my full name from the logs. I have been open about what it is and it appears once or twice in the bitcoin-assets logs. I realize that this ecosystem is very different and that people here don't believe in traditional startups, but I have investors doing due dilligence on me, and it is uncomfortable to come up in google results. |
20:59 |
ninjashogun |
<ninjashogun> I realize that you also are careful about your online footprint so you will appreciate this. I think I didn't realize that it's a publicly-indexed log at the time. |
20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao. |
20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
what is the schmuck's name anyway ? |
20:59 |
ninjashogun |
I can PM you if you want. Let's not repeat this. |
20:59 |
punkman |
I don't think I've seen your name |
20:59 |
ninjashogun |
Look, we're all adults here and know how an IRC conversation looks to a random person googling an individual. |
21:00 |
mircea_popescu |
get lost. we really don't give a shit either way. |
21:00 |
mircea_popescu |
!down ninjashogun |
21:01 |
mircea_popescu |
if anyone ever googles this idiot : there are better ways to flush your money down a toilet. |
21:01 |
mircea_popescu |
including the literal. |
21:02 |
mats_cd03 |
do they ship to the us cazalla? can't seem to find it |
21:02 |
cazalla |
mats_cd03, prolly not |
21:02 |
mircea_popescu |
given that i have like 2lbs of chocolate right here, which i just bought today, it's a wonder we're not the fattest people online. |
21:03 |
mircea_popescu |
what with all this chocolate conneisseurship |
21:03 |
mats_cd03 |
well now i'm just disappointed |
21:07 |
jurov |
just today i came across an adverticle about "need to increas VC penetration in Slovakia" |
21:07 |
jurov |
i was like, myeah, better WC penetration would be handy sometims |
21:20 |
punkman |
speaking of belgium, http://www.maisondandoy.com/en/order/ |
21:24 |
cazalla |
no news about so far today |
21:24 |
cazalla |
afterall, i wouldn't want anyone to think i'm slacking |
21:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00077792 = 6.7679 BTC [-] |
21:32 |
thestringpuller |
i have news |
21:32 |
thestringpuller |
"still no updates on punkbot" |
21:32 |
thestringpuller |
jkjk punkman |
21:32 |
punkman |
what I just gave status update |
21:33 |
thestringpuller |
I was just trolling! I'm sorry I couldn't resist. |
21:34 |
punkman |
I am already humiliated by letting invalid deed pass through |
21:34 |
punkman |
(but I just deleted it from db, ha!) |
21:34 |
thestringpuller |
scandalous! |
21:38 |
punkman |
437 people in assbot's l2, 2.9mb pubring |
21:39 |
mircea_popescu |
<punkman> I am already humiliated by letting invalid deed pass through << how did that happen ? |
21:40 |
punkman |
gpg library lied to me, and also I suck |
21:41 |
punkman |
(library docs) |
21:48 |
cazalla |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/jeffrey-robinson-bitcoin-used-by-terrorists/ |
21:48 |
assbot |
Jeffrey Robinson: Bitcoin Used By Terrorists | Qntra.net |
21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google Jeffrey Robinson |
21:49 |
gribble |
Jeffrey Robinson, Author & Journalist: <http://www.jeffreyrobinson.com/>; Jeffrey Robinson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Robinson>; Jeffrey Robinson | Rutgers Business School: <http://business.rutgers.edu/faculty-research/directory/robinson-jeffrey> |
21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
ohic. dude that'd totally know what he's talking about. |
21:57 |
mircea_popescu |
also in the news : jeffrey robinson is a fraudulent grant eater that's spent 100's of thousands off the public treasury and has yet to produce anything of value. |
21:59 |
punkman |
punkbot, status |
21:59 |
punkbot |
punkman: No pending deeds | Last bundle 2 hours and 27 minutes ago |
21:59 |
punkman |
punkbot, balance |
21:59 |
punkbot |
punkman: Balance at 1LAwrWMbPLLSpt7nkD5Jv1Yf4cwPhD98ny is 0.01603 BTC (0.0 unconfirmed), enough for 145 more bundles. |
22:04 |
punkman |
punkbot, deed http://dpaste.com/18E29HJ |
22:04 |
assbot |
dpaste: 18E29HJ |
22:04 |
punkbot |
punkman: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. |
22:07 |
punkman |
we'll pay $0.03575 for that silly deed! |
22:08 |
punkman |
thestringpuller: ^ give it a try |
22:08 |
punkman |
.status |
22:08 |
punkbot |
punkman: 1 pending deed | Last bundle 2 hours and 36 minutes ago |
22:10 |
punkman |
mircea_popescu: should I give deedwallet password to you or kakobrekla for safekeeping? |
22:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.0007789 = 5.1797 BTC [+] |
22:25 |
punkman |
.status |
22:25 |
punkbot |
punkman: 1 pending deed | Last bundle 2 hours and 53 minutes ago |
22:28 |
mircea_popescu |
punkbot sure, give it to kako |
22:29 |
punkman |
heh INFO 2014-11-02T02:28:41 Not replying to sure, in #bitcoin-assets, not a command. |
22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
oops :p |
22:29 |
punkman |
.deed http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-October/000004.html |
22:29 |
punkbot |
punkman: No valid deeds found, try again. (invalid: 1) |
22:29 |
kakobrekla |
mps wot is larger number. give it to mp. |
22:30 |
punkbot |
Bundled 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1KFaXF5J |
22:30 |
assbot |
Bundle 1KFaXF5J | #bitcoin-assets deed registry |
22:30 |
punkman |
success! https://blockchain.info/tx/aaa9c986ae676a6970eb180fe38368bca16b143cd0ca74821893d08b7e5b664e |
22:30 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Transaction aaa9c986ae676a6970eb180fe38368bca16b143cd0ca74821893d08b7e5b664e |
22:30 |
mircea_popescu |
amazing success! |
22:30 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
22:31 |
punkman |
btw notice deed address is 1Law |
22:31 |
mircea_popescu |
yay! |
22:31 |
punkman |
.balance |
22:31 |
punkbot |
punkman: Balance at 1LAwrWMbPLLSpt7nkD5Jv1Yf4cwPhD98ny is 0.01603 BTC (-0.00011 unconfirmed), enough for 145 more bundles. |
22:32 |
punkman |
.status |
22:32 |
punkbot |
punkman: No pending deeds | Last bundle 1 minute ago | 1 unconfirmed bundle |
22:32 |
mircea_popescu |
these argentinian dudes are so fucktarded it's hard to put into words. so there's a few streets in the financial district where literally 100s of derps hawk "cambio, cambio!" trying to get some paper benjies for their locally-printed toilet paper. all day long. |
22:33 |
mircea_popescu |
saturday night tho ? ZERO! i don't mean, most of the fat ones with good business didn't bother, leav ing just a few of the sketchier, hungrier fellows. no, i mean exactly zero. as if saturday night is not a time. not part of the world. does not exist. |
22:34 |
mircea_popescu |
the exact fucking antihussle. i wonder what the fuck dope dealers are doing, because i find it hard to believe argentine junkies all keep a stash. |
22:35 |
punkman |
is financial district busy saturday night? |
22:35 |
mircea_popescu |
what difference does it make ? |
22:35 |
mircea_popescu |
take a tour through the red light district, sometime. the hookers are out whether there's johns or not. |
22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
because THAT IS THEIR MOTHERFUCKING JOB. |
22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
they have to suck a lot of cock for that foot of sidewalk. it's not like somehow magically it's not a sidewalk anymore between 13:30 and 14:25 |
22:37 |
punkbot |
Confirmed bundle 1KFaXF5JX8V3N1oPtWBXttVZfXn7KCR4fJ | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/b/1KFaXF5J |
22:37 |
assbot |
Bundle 1KFaXF5J | #bitcoin-assets deed registry |
22:37 |
punkman |
meat for punkbot today! |
22:37 |
mircea_popescu |
that's quintessentially why it's called the hustle. because you fucking hustle. if it were an office job it'd just be, the office job. |
22:40 |
punkman |
kakobrekla: maybe add link to deeds. on other pages |
22:43 |
cazalla |
must be a good sign when people are posting unsolicited links to qntra on 4chan http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/44973425 |
22:43 |
assbot |
/g/ - What bitcoin tumbler do you recommend /g/? I want |
22:43 |
punkman |
cazalla: ah nice |
| |
~ 35 minutes ~ |
23:19 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/jardin-botanico-carlos-thays-buenos-aires/ |
23:19 |
assbot |
Jardin Botanico Carlos Thays - Buenos Aires pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
23:19 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla well, it's a sign that qntra is used by terrorists. |
23:20 |
cazalla |
used is ok, as long as it is not written by terrorists |
23:21 |
punkman |
you sure about that? |
23:21 |
mircea_popescu |
it's clearly written b y terrorists. |
23:21 |
mircea_popescu |
you strike terror in the heart of wankstream media |
23:21 |
cazalla |
Jardin Botanico Carlos Thays <<< this looks photoshopped |
23:21 |
mircea_popescu |
not to mention wankstream "entrepreneurs" |
23:21 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla which one ? |
23:22 |
cazalla |
first one of course |
23:22 |
mircea_popescu |
no, it totally read "welcome to the land of the derpy" in the original. |
23:27 |
cazalla |
sounds like amir really is fucked up on drugs |
23:28 |
cazalla |
"trying to help Amir, rehabilitate Amir.." |
23:32 |
punkman |
cazalla: there's a typo missing, Arse News |
23:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00077853 = 8.486 BTC [-] |
23:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00077883 = 14.2136 BTC [+] {2} |
23:42 |
thestringpuller |
slow news weekend |
23:52 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla seriously, oding is the best thing for the guy. |
23:53 |
thestringpuller |
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/technology/warp/warpstat_prt.htm |
23:53 |
mircea_popescu |
if he's clean he's obnoxiously stupid. at least he could get out, happy ending all around. |
23:54 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform http://bitbet.us/bet/859/cardano-to-ship-in-2014/#c4213 |
23:54 |
assbot |
BitBet - Cardano to Ship in 2014 :: 1.08 B (41%) on Yes, 1.53 B (59%) on No | closing in 1 month 3 weeks | weight: 24`933 (100`000 to 1) |
23:58 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, he has a sponsor in cody wilson by the sounds of it, http://qntra.net/2014/11/cody-wilson-the-bitcoin-community-has-sold-out/ |
23:58 |
assbot |
Cody Wilson: "The Bitcoin Community Has Sold Out" | Qntra.net |