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00:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00078803 = 3.2309 BTC [+]
00:03 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Also you may be comforted to know KOL uses NGINX instead of dead Injuns
00:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15052 @ 0.00078708 = 11.8471 BTC [-]
00:18 danielpbarron BingoBoingo, sorry about that i got distracted with something
00:19 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: It's cool prolly nothing to bet on today seems like I'm totes ascending later
00:19 danielpbarron heh, idk if I want to bet on that
00:20 danielpbarron I've never been that into optimizing ascention stuff; my main account has never done it since before it was even an option
00:20 BingoBoingo Well it would only be for the second time since you sold me meat, both on challenge paths
00:20 danielpbarron so I don't really know what the odds would be
00:20 BingoBoingo Eh, not so hard, you kill the naughty sourceress
00:20 mircea_popescu The20YearIRCloud i KNEW! it was some odd idiosybncratic thing
00:21 mircea_popescu !up rogerthedoger
00:25 mircea_popescu and now that ben_vulpes delivered the goods, the quest is on :
00:25 mircea_popescu what string and what hash has produced the leading d49250d4 ?
00:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00078708 = 5.1947 BTC [-]
00:33 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: have you never ascended before?
00:34 danielpbarron I have with another account; but yeah my original account has never done it, and I even have the trophy I got for logging in the day ascention rolled out
00:35 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Wait you are that old and never wanted to inherit another class's skills?
00:35 Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/
00:37 danielpbarron BingoBoingo, at first I wanted to give it time to let others spade it out; eventually I decided I'd go for the wow factor of having a really old account that never ascended; plus I was mostly interested with the Mall, which is easier to use if you aren't focused on optimizing runs
00:38 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Ah, I made I guess... the mistake of doing some hardcore ascensions, but... I'm enjoying these new challenge paths
00:41 xanthyos i ascended twice, having realized that i only felt comfortable in my original saucery
00:41 BingoBoingo I mean not ascending has advantages... You're always ready for crimbo...
00:42 BingoBoingo xanthyos: Turtle Taming for lyfe bitch
00:42 xanthyos BingoBoingo: what's your kol account name?
00:42 BingoBoingo xanthyos: Atruk
00:42 xanthyos are you the guy who gave danielpbarron btc for meat?
00:42 BingoBoingo xanthyos: Yes
00:42 xanthyos heheh
00:42 xanthyos through the Mr. A conversion tool
00:43 BingoBoingo I kinda hoped he'd close his XCP thing, but... He didn't
00:43 xanthyos the jick'll never find out
00:43 BingoBoingo xanthyos: Jick can jickle my dick
00:43 xanthyos the jitz'll never know, mcfly
00:44 xanthyos Account Created:October 17, 2006
00:44 xanthyos not bad
00:44 BingoBoingo xanthyos: Benevolent neglect
00:44 BingoBoingo xanthyos: If you want some Crimborg shit though...
00:45 xanthyos all i want is adventures
00:45 xanthyos i do nothing but study at canada school
00:45 xanthyos for a decade
00:45 xanthyos Advancement:
00:45 xanthyos You must gain 315 Mysticality to advance to level 202.
00:45 * danielpbarron collects rat appendices
00:45 BingoBoingo xanthyos: You want a whole time outfit?
00:45 BingoBoingo http://gawker.com/truvada-its-time-to-take-the-fucking-pill-1612386701
00:45 assbot Truvada: It's Time To Take the Fucking Pill
00:46 xanthyos all iwant is meat, adventures, or adventure-generating foods
00:46 BingoBoingo xanthyos: I'd part with a whole time outfit for the right price
00:46 xanthyos i only seek mysticality
00:46 BingoBoingo ~15 adv/day for helmet weapon and pants
00:47 BingoBoingo Or ~12
00:47 BingoBoingo WHo knows
00:47 xanthyos SPEAR AND MAGIC HELMET!
00:48 BingoBoingo xanthyos: I also have a sneaky pete's jacket I won't need much longer
00:48 BingoBoingo +4 adv/day
00:49 Bet placed: 1.00099999 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 94(Y):6(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.101 BTC. Current weight: 99,965.
00:51 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo so what is this, random gawker dude got his payola ?
00:57 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Looks like it. He was for the longest time anti gay pill. Now he is pro gay pill
00:58 dub he's mostly just retarded
00:59 dub how the fuck this makes into a weblogsite I've heard of escapes
01:05 BingoBoingo Space Agent UD 4126
01:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12849 @ 0.00078708 = 10.1132 BTC [-]
01:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00078708 = 7.7921 BTC [-]
01:23 BingoBoingo OMG sick and not sick ===== If you are on Truvada, you're medicating yourself (hopefully) every day, like someone with HIV. You're being closely monitored by your doctor with tests every three months to make sure you're negative and that your body is functioning properly, like someone with HIV. The cultural divide between the positive and the negative erodes, as it should.
01:25 dub shitload more people are on permanent omeprazole scrips
01:26 BingoBoingo No one died from lack of omeprazole
01:26 dub which is prozac for your gut
01:26 dub in that in has no benefit that cannot be found naturally
01:27 dub it*
01:29 BingoBoingo dub: Prozac is totally prozac for your gut, there is no organ in which prozac is moar active
01:30 dub oh hey its on the World Health Orgs List of Really Neat Drugs That We Are Paid To Put In Our List
01:31 dub my meaning is prozac et al is usually prescribed when the doctor cbf and isnt a real doctor
01:31 dub same deal
01:32 dub s/usually//
01:37 BingoBoingo Well...
01:47 BingoBoingo !up tjader
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02:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00078708 = 7.2411 BTC [-]
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02:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23250 @ 0.00078673 = 18.2915 BTC [-] {3}
02:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00078629 = 5.7006 BTC [-]
02:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15529 @ 0.00078629 = 12.2103 BTC [-]
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03:33 BingoBoingo !up HeySteve
03:35 BingoBoingo ;;later tell danielpbarron turns out was able to ascend
03:35 gribble The operation succeeded.
03:36 HeySteve thanks BingoBoingo
03:36 BingoBoingo You are welcome HeySteve
03:36 HeySteve my connection is a yo-yo again so not worth the trouble to auth
03:36 BingoBoingo Ah
03:37 BingoBoingo Well, from joins and parts doesn't look near as bad as before
03:37 HeySteve dunno if you caught it in the logs, but I'm working on a new kind of gambling
03:37 BingoBoingo Cool
03:37 HeySteve nah it's more stable and I took off the autojoin
03:37 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes i was expecting a lot more obvious drunkedness tbh. but sober ? maybe you should write a book. << book? what book. "hey. tits? they're worth 0.1 btc now, which i'll hold for you indefinitely. let's tits. tits everyone? great."
03:37 BingoBoingo Is your new gambling comparable to anything?
03:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00078803 = 2.9945 BTC [+]
03:38 HeySteve it's like if you could gamble on a choose your own adventure story
03:38 HeySteve ben_vulpes liked the babes
03:38 ben_vulpes why not actually play btc the game though, HeySteve ?
03:38 ben_vulpes they're great babes.
03:38 HeySteve btc the game?
03:39 ben_vulpes the game wherein one acquires btc
03:39 ben_vulpes fuck all muhmorpergers
03:39 HeySteve sure I've earned and bought my share
03:39 HeySteve though more is always welcome
03:40 BingoBoingo HeySteve: Ah, that
03:40 * ben_vulpes is off again
03:40 BingoBoingo My favorite way to read those books in the past was page by page
03:41 HeySteve heh doing it wrong
03:41 BingoBoingo Nah it is a test of memory
03:42 BingoBoingo Can you follow all paths at the same time
03:45 HeySteve hmm training your memory for the card table perhaps?
03:46 BingoBoingo HeySteve: Or life in general
03:48 HeySteve my grandparents could recall all the cards played in a game of bridge. they'd review it afterwards, my grandfather criticizing granny's play
03:49 HeySteve my memory's good but not nearly that good
03:50 Vexual although, granny can't remember whose carkeys she chose
03:51 BingoBoingo Vexual: Your grandparents still do key parties?
03:51 HeySteve heh doubt that ever happened, they were real godly folk
03:52 ben_vulpes Vexual: come on baby don't leave me hanging
03:53 ben_vulpes oh well. anuvva time i guess.
04:04 BingoBoingo Hello DreadKnight
04:05 DreadKnight heya BingoBoingo
04:05 BingoBoingo How have things been?
04:05 BingoBoingo since... a few hours ago?
04:06 DreadKnight ben_vulpes, you nickname? not fond of MMORPGs as well, even got a bit insulted you thought I was making one, lol
04:06 DreadKnight BingoBoingo, doing a bit of coding overall, what are you up to?
04:06 HeySteve someone should make a Terry Pratchett game and call it Ankh-MMORPG
04:06 BingoBoingo DreadKnight: Just getting ready for the month to end
04:06 HeySteve worth it just for that
04:07 BingoBoingo !mpif
04:07 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021718 B (Total: 474.94 B). Delta: -0.34 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]
04:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15339 @ 0.00078803 = 12.0876 BTC [+]
04:08 DreadKnight BingoBoingo, well you can just sit back and relax for time to pass, no need to do anything special; unless you listed something on MPEx xD
04:08 BingoBoingo DreadKnight: Well, I market make ATC for MPIF
04:10 DreadKnight BingoBoingo, hmm
04:10 Vexual whats happening won the atc scene?
04:11 BingoBoingo Vexual: Well, WoL uses it
04:11 Vexual yes, i haven't tried it get, i felt woozy last time i looked
04:11 BingoBoingo I'll try to get the statement for how it was traded out on the 1st
04:11 DreadKnight average total costs for mircea popescu investment fund, BingoBoingo ?
04:11 HeySteve I saw WoL is influenced by the blockchain, how does that work?
04:12 BingoBoingo DreadKnight: What do you mean by average total costs?
04:12 DreadKnight BingoBoingo, not sure what ATC stands for otherwise
04:12 BingoBoingo HeySteve: WoL actions happen as a result of blockchain events
04:12 Vexual is there, like a cool workspace with an old streetfighter machine so I can remeber all my old combos while depositing?
04:12 BingoBoingo DreadKnight: Altcoin, capitalized
04:12 DreadKnight gotcha
04:13 BingoBoingo Vexual: If only
04:13 HeySteve BingoBoingo, I like that idea. want to use the blockchain myself as a kind of public dice roll
04:14 BingoBoingo So... the peace corps is evacuating west Africa over Ebola
04:14 Vexual whatcu mean evacuating, sucka?
04:15 Vexual fat arse= plane?
04:15 Vexual coz that sounds counterproductive
04:15 DreadKnight Mr. T is in the house.
04:15 Vexual oh
04:16 HeySteve as long as that shit doesn't spread to south africa
04:16 DreadKnight found it interesting that Mark Shuttleworth got rich in Africa
04:16 BingoBoingo Vexual: I mean fleeing because they don't want Ebola since apparently white people get it nao
04:17 BingoBoingo White Africans are everything wrong with Humanity
04:17 HeySteve yeah shuttleworth invented some kinda certificate authority... thawt
04:17 DreadKnight *The Human Stain movie*
04:17 BingoBoingo Well, White Africans, Ohio, and Wrigleyville
04:17 Vexual fluffypony is cool
04:17 fluffypony lol
04:17 fluffypony thanks
04:17 HeySteve hey fluffypony
04:18 fluffypony hey HeySteve
04:19 DreadKnight always profitable to establish yourself as "the shit" and make others strive and pay for your recognition
04:19 DreadKnight *cough* cisco *cough*
04:21 DreadKnight HeySteve, I knew it had something to do with hardware, but that certificate made the real money?
04:22 DreadKnight good to know
04:22 HeySteve I think so, yeah. not sure why Web of Trust hasn't been more widely adopted over CAs
04:22 HeySteve guess key parties aren't cool or something
04:23 DreadKnight :D
04:23 DreadKnight it's too "peer to peer"
04:24 DreadKnight CAs tend to me more iconic and profitable, meaning more marketing done as well to brainwash people
04:24 DreadKnight CAs are older concept in the industry, better rooted
04:28 HeySteve hmm probably but WoT goes back to early days of PGP
04:29 BingoBoingo Well, a CA is pretty much the definition of a pre-approved stooge
04:30 HeySteve yeah it's another area ripe for blockchain monopoly busting (probably)
04:35 DreadKnight ;;reputation DreadKnight
04:35 gribble Error: "reputation" is not a valid command.
04:35 DreadKnight !s reputation
04:35 assbot 296 results for 'reputation' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=reputation
04:36 Vexual !s blacklist
04:36 assbot 42 results for 'blacklist' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=blacklist
04:38 HeySteve use ;;gettrust
04:39 Vexual where the answer is ruianable
04:39 DreadKnight thanks HeySteve
04:39 DreadKnight ran through the website
04:48 Vexual Hi BB, How have things been?
04:52 BingoBoingo Vexual: Not too bad
04:53 cazalla Vexual, rainbow edition at the pub? fight me cunt
04:55 Vexual you're on chappie
05:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 250 @ 0.00399754 = 0.9994 BTC [+] {4}
05:14 trixisowned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO2PEgU6Jl8&list=UUGUXr4b1Q-JGGqTC5JDOVwA#t=468
05:14 assbot Cooking With Hoarders: How to wake up in the morning Part 2 - YouTube
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06:27 punkman paypal: "o hai we removed your bank account because" me: "because what?" paypal: "loldunno, not enough IBAN maybe" me: "can't add new bank" paypal: "try again in next 4 hours, I enables u" me: "YOUR SHIT NO WORK" paypal: "lolsorry, send bank statements to try again"
06:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00078739 = 6.8897 BTC [-]
06:29 BigBitz punkman LOL
06:29 punkman I'm going with "FUCK YOU, ONLINE BANKING NO PAPER" but I don't think it's gonna work
06:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00078705 = 1.1806 BTC [-]
06:29 punkman maybe they'll take screenshot of bank account?
06:30 BigBitz Hilarious.
06:30 BigBitz can you download your statementS? My bank lets me do that.
06:31 punkman sure I can print all kinds of bank website
06:31 punkman this nonsense gives me heartburn every time
06:33 punkman oh and this is like 1 reply per day, it's gonna take a while
06:33 BigBitz Lame...
06:34 punkman ;;rate paypal -10 fuuuuuuuu
06:34 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user paypal has been recorded.
06:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00078705 = 6.6112 BTC [-]
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07:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.0144 = 0.504 BTC [-] {3}
07:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15592 @ 0.00078861 = 12.296 BTC [+] {2}
07:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29989851 = 0.5998 BTC [+] {2}
07:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8061 @ 0.00079192 = 6.3837 BTC [+]
07:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00079297 = 18.7934 BTC [+] {3}
07:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00079353 = 0.9919 BTC [+]
07:46 thickasthieves ack! logz
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08:19 thickasthieves <+ben_vulpes> riding my bike all over town (what american child can ride a bike around their town?!) /// more than would like to admit
08:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00079113 = 3.7974 BTC [-]
08:21 thickasthieves <+mircea_popescu> reddit is not a race. /// it's a picture of the finish line
08:34 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
08:34 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 570.99, Best ask: 573.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.01000, Last trade: 570.97, 24 hour volume: 10596.14928038, 24 hour low: 555.9, 24 hour high: 579.76, 24 hour vwap: 567.332041638
08:35 mircea_popescu ;;calc 314.59764223 * 567.332041638
08:35 gribble 178481.322661
08:35 mircea_popescu o look, teh berkshire bet is on again.
08:36 thickasthieves <+punkman> ;;rate paypal -10 fuuuuuuuu \\\ :)
08:37 thickasthieves ;;rate mpex 5
08:37 gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
08:37 thickasthieves darn
08:37 mircea_popescu did it steal your moneyz punkman ?
08:40 mircea_popescu tit for t_a_t ?
08:40 t_a_t https://medium.com/@TomOnBTC/pissed-about-bitcoin-prices-some-of-the-blame-falls-on-the-bitcoin-foundation-bae91f981d1
08:40 assbot Pissed about Bitcoin Prices? Some of the blame falls on the Bitcoin Foundation. Medium
08:41 t_a_t "14 days Matonis. 14 days Foundation. Come clean with what your executive directors are really doing in “off hours” or we will do it for you."
08:41 mircea_popescu lol
08:41 mircea_popescu "executive director!!1"
08:42 chetty <t_a_t> "14 days Matonis. 14 days Foundation. Come clean with what your executive directors// plural??
08:43 t_a_t "You see, what Matonis doesn’t want anyone to know is that while he is saying to expect smoother trading Exante has been in a non-stop dumping of Bitcoin via Bermuda."
08:44 t_a_t ;;later tell ben_vulpes "<< has won over //" You can't cramp my style.
08:44 gribble The operation succeeded.
08:45 mircea_popescu t_a_t so why is that supposed to be a problem again ?
08:45 t_a_t my summary understanding:
08:47 t_a_t guy is somehow involved in the paperwork for TBF's euro applications or such, thus accessed some rare financial and ownership data. To him, the nature and/or timing of this data is in direct conflict with public statements by matonis and/or the guy's own law of reddit moral code. The jury is out.
08:47 mircea_popescu sounds about right.
08:47 punkman mircea_popescu: not yet but fuck them anyway
08:49 mircea_popescu "The cultural divide between the positive and the negative erodes, as it should." what the fuck is wrong with these idiots. why exactly SHOULD the "cultural divide" between the failed and the successful "erode" ?
08:49 mircea_popescu nm, just answered my own q.
08:50 t_a_t i still cant find TBF in Guidestar, fwiw
08:51 t_a_t lol: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/2012-990EZ-IRS-Bitcoin-Foundation-.pdf
08:51 assbot Page not found | The Bitcoin Foundation
08:51 mircea_popescu lol k
08:51 chetty <mircea_popescu> "The cultural divide between the positive and the negative erodes, as it should." what the fuck is wrong with these idiots. why exactly SHOULD the "cultural divide" between the failed and the successful "erode" ?// so we cna get to the great sameness
08:52 mircea_popescu why would i want to be the same with some hiv positive faggot ?
08:52 t_a_t also https://bitcoinfoundation.org/static/2014/05/Bitcoin-2013-990-PDC.pdf
08:52 assbot Page not found | The Bitcoin Foundation
08:52 mircea_popescu o no wait, what i want doesn't matter, HE wants to be the same with me, and that's the controlling factor ?
08:52 chetty twas a joke ...
08:52 mircea_popescu cute. i hope he gets raped too.
08:52 The20YearIRCloud mircea_popescu: has HIV?
08:52 mircea_popescu The20YearIRCloud hm ?
08:52 The20YearIRCloud i'm confused
08:53 mircea_popescu some weird discussion burried in the logs.
08:53 chetty the great sameness= death
08:53 mircea_popescu but no, i don't have any vd, and never had. i just fuck the sluts & whores, other people are getting teh vds.
08:54 mircea_popescu and since we be on teh topic, http://38.media.tumblr.com/f6fb31ffba3d2db7a9989a5995f4ba16/tumblr_mh5321LWzs1qjhn09o1_400.gif
08:55 t_a_t plz halp gais https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets/status/494828493478567936
08:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.27440001 = 4.116 BTC [-] {4}
08:56 t_a_t i wonder if i saved the email for that accounting girl
08:57 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: book? what book. || "The Secret Redditors Hate : How I Got My Wife And Her BFF To Go Naked On The Internet For Fun And Profit Using Only Tools Avaialble in Any Kitchen In Twenty Minutes For Dummies. Bulleted List THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT BELIEVE."
08:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9571 @ 0.00079113 = 7.5719 BTC [-]
08:58 t_a_t Using This Weird Funny Trick
08:59 mircea_popescu nono, she's the trick.
09:00 mircea_popescu t_a_t glwt lol.
09:01 jurov BF Uses This Weird Funny Trick That Bitcoiners Hate
09:02 fluffypony scammingz?
09:05 mircea_popescu fluffypony well, bitcoin foundation.
09:06 fluffypony heh
09:06 fluffypony I wonder why they don't just announce scrypt ASICs and become founding members of the Dogecoin Foundation
09:07 jurov cuz even dogers don't want them
09:09 mircea_popescu incredible the lengths to which they go to hide vessenes's multiple fraudulet activities from teh general public.
09:09 mircea_popescu aactually... not so incredible i guess.
09:10 t_a_t found the lady jodie@bitcoinfoundation.org
09:10 mircea_popescu Vexual:
09:10 mircea_popescu although, granny can't remember whose carkeys she chose << lmao
09:11 mircea_popescu t_a_t i thought she quit.
09:12 mircea_popescu !uo ThickAsThieves
09:12 mircea_popescu !up ThickAsThieves
09:12 ThickAsThieves thx
09:12 ThickAsThieves "Previously, Jodie was Chief Financial Officer for CoinLab"
09:13 ThickAsThieves so much for her being my inside gal
09:13 ThickAsThieves she quit?
09:13 mircea_popescu HeySteve: I think so, yeah. not sure why Web of Trust hasn't been more widely adopted over CAs << because CAs come with master keys.
09:13 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i'm not keeping too close tabs on the whole debacle.
09:14 mircea_popescu !up Ginux
09:15 mircea_popescu buncha quitters
09:17 mircea_popescu !up so
09:19 mircea_popescu sooo... argentina defaults, dollar price unaffected.
09:25 mircea_popescu ;;rate genericpersona -10 Random muppet with unwarranted political aspirations.
09:25 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user genericpersona has been recorded.
09:34 mircea_popescu ;;seen pigeons
09:34 gribble pigeons was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 20 hours, 37 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <pigeons> so far that seems accurate
09:41 ThickAsThieves https://bitcoin4.bitcoinfoundation.org/static/2014/05/Bitcoin-2013-990-PDC.pdf
09:41 ThickAsThieves https://bitcoinfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/2012-990EZ-IRS-Bitcoin-Foundation-.pdf
09:42 ThickAsThieves Gavin got paid $210k
09:42 ThickAsThieves Linday Holland, Assistant Director: $160k
09:42 ThickAsThieves Lindsay*
09:42 mircea_popescu nah they didn't.
09:42 mircea_popescu just, 2013, bitcoin.
09:43 mircea_popescu !up ThickAsThieves
09:44 The20YearIRCloud tat can't self voice?
09:45 ThickAsThieves i can, just blinked and need to reauth
09:45 ThickAsThieves page 34 has a tidbit
09:45 ThickAsThieves $31250 paid to The Hole of Roy LLC
09:45 ThickAsThieves consulting services by Matonis to TBF
09:54 ThickAsThieves "Bitcoin Vietnam's 'digital gold' as faith in dong falls"
09:55 mircea_popescu dong eh ?
09:56 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves anyway, the good part isn't the 1.5mn they got and spent, the good part is the final assets, 15btc.
09:57 ThickAsThieves thats not right
09:58 ThickAsThieves it says like $4m in btc
09:58 ThickAsThieves Dec 31 prcied
09:58 ThickAsThieves priced*
09:58 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves beginning 2013 i mean.
09:58 ThickAsThieves ah
09:58 ThickAsThieves $4512316 it says for end
09:59 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves now maybe my accounting's unfit for a goose, but how exactly do you go from 100k in assets to 4.5mn in assets when your net exercise is like 100k ?
10:00 mircea_popescu wait my bad. the revenue is actually 800k, expenses 1.4mn.
10:00 ThickAsThieves they didnt claim the btc in 2012 or someshit
10:01 mircea_popescu notably, they got 70k in donations and 10x that from the "be a member and scam people" swindle.
10:01 ThickAsThieves i still dont have my free membership
10:01 ThickAsThieves so they have about 6000btc
10:02 mircea_popescu end of 2013 ?
10:02 ThickAsThieves yeah
10:02 ThickAsThieves but they did mention same amount in Amsterdam
10:02 ThickAsThieves roughly
10:03 ThickAsThieves Jodie also said they only spend when they need cash
10:03 ThickAsThieves sell*
10:03 ThickAsThieves i'm seeing now how so not anonymous btc will be in the US
10:03 ThickAsThieves these tax forms obv needs wallet addresses
10:04 ThickAsThieves we're the last anonymous generation methinks
10:04 mircea_popescu no see, still doesn't work. 2013-01-25 00:00:0017.1517.7216.1217.49 so 100k dollars in january 2013 means
10:05 mircea_popescu ;;calc 97738 / 17.09
10:05 gribble 5719.01696899
10:05 mircea_popescu 5.7k start of exercise.
10:05 mircea_popescu 2013-12-31 00:00:00736.517397097327919.3199999999945763630.729999996727.7899999999995
10:05 ThickAsThieves but we dont know when they sold coins
10:06 ThickAsThieves it's pointless to audit i think
10:06 mircea_popescu 4703264 / 727.79
10:06 mircea_popescu ;;calc 4703264 / 727.79
10:06 gribble 6462.39162396
10:06 mircea_popescu 735890/(6462.39162396 - 5719.01696899)
10:07 mircea_popescu ;;calc 735890/(6462.39162396 - 5719.01696899)
10:07 gribble 989.931517143
10:07 mircea_popescu so basically they started with 5.7k, ended with 6.4k and got a total of 700 btc donated counted at an average of 900, so most of them early 2013.
10:07 ThickAsThieves sounds plausible
10:07 mircea_popescu this is quite well fitting with the history, they were only actually declared persona non grata later on.
10:08 ThickAsThieves however, i'm skeptical all they got was 6k
10:08 ThickAsThieves IPOs got way more than that on that timeline
10:08 mircea_popescu why ?
10:09 ThickAsThieves surely every ass throwin btc around threw some at TBF
10:09 mircea_popescu ipos CLAIM more than that, because ipos don't file for taxes, typically.
10:09 ThickAsThieves need wallet addy
10:11 ThickAsThieves i also wonder about liquidity tricks
10:11 mircea_popescu they posted a 77k investment income, which is probably a wrong statement,
10:11 mircea_popescu it includes what they THINK they made daytrading,
10:11 mircea_popescu whereas it should include that massive 4mn they got from btc
10:12 ThickAsThieves say TBF sells 500btc at $200, but then price falls. Matonis sells 500btc for $150 and says the first set were his and second set was TBF
10:12 ThickAsThieves just bs like that
10:12 mircea_popescu what the fuck must this moss adams thing be thinking to publish unbalanced tax returns is beyond the mind's boggle.
10:13 ThickAsThieves to what end though, they dont pay taxes
10:13 ThickAsThieves so invetsment income being correcter does what
10:13 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you know if matonis wishes to donate $50 to the foundation he doesn't have to go to all this complex trouble. or you mean it the other way around
10:14 ThickAsThieves i mean the scammy side
10:14 ThickAsThieves arbiter of coins and trades can shuffle to his liking
10:14 mircea_popescu well this has been the objection since day one, vessenes is just using it as a piggybank
10:14 mircea_popescu doubt matonis' doing much with that.
10:16 ThickAsThieves would it be appropriate to add measures to an0?
10:16 ThickAsThieves like must report bitcoin holding addresses
10:16 ThickAsThieves essentially promote transparency where available
10:16 ThickAsThieves or maybe have anNP
10:16 mircea_popescu an0 already reports that neh ?
10:16 ThickAsThieves for nonprofits
10:17 ThickAsThieves all tx must be reported
10:17 ThickAsThieves with notes
10:17 ThickAsThieves i didnt recall an0 sharing bitcoin addy
10:18 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
10:18 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.36, Best ask: 583.4, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 583.4, 24 hour volume: 10950.96660472, 24 hour low: 555.9, 24 hour high: 583.5, 24 hour vwap: 568.109554429
10:19 mircea_popescu oh you mean the addy specifically.
10:19 mircea_popescu meh, that was on the plate, but eventually fell off. for one thing, addresses change, for the other some people are worried (sensibly or no) that it exposes them to various vulnerabilities.
10:20 ThickAsThieves for personal wallets i def agree
10:20 ThickAsThieves for nonprofits, much less so
10:20 ThickAsThieves for businesses, probly has competition issues and other privacy problems
10:21 ThickAsThieves for nonprofits, donors may not want their addy connected
10:21 ThickAsThieves meh
10:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what string and what hash has produced the leading d49250d4 << anybody solved this puzzle ?
10:21 mircea_popescu nope.
10:21 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves moreover, bitcoin is supposed to be anon.
10:22 BigBitz asciilifeform what is that from?
10:22 mircea_popescu as a general principle supporting any deanonimization measures is uncanonical.
10:22 ThickAsThieves it's the current knot in my brain lately, whether this phenomenon is actually the one that kills anonymity
10:22 mircea_popescu BigBitz the earlier pic with the two girls' bits.
10:22 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves which phenomenon ?
10:22 BigBitz didn't see the pic :(
10:23 ThickAsThieves the aspects of bitcoin and decentralized networks that we all currently associae with anonymity
10:23 ThickAsThieves the public ledger
10:23 mircea_popescu !s d49250d4
10:23 assbot 2 results for 'd49250d4' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=d49250d4
10:23 ThickAsThieves the development that we can track everything reliably now
10:23 mircea_popescu i musta been asleep for that development.
10:24 BigBitz 'realibly' is debatable.
10:24 ThickAsThieves referring to the same la serenissima topic from before
10:25 ThickAsThieves where you can make a network that knows permanent record of all tx, and can now add identity network
10:25 ThickAsThieves then once you do, it gains use, then becomes requirement
10:25 ThickAsThieves anonymity my ass! future dood yells
10:25 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves but the requirement for you to have a face in the forum does not equate to a requirement for you to have a face in the treasury
10:25 mircea_popescu this cleavage is essential.
10:26 ThickAsThieves i'mn concerned they are entangled or will become so
10:27 ThickAsThieves what if everyone really did require WoT for any trust situation
10:27 mircea_popescu what then ?
10:27 ThickAsThieves then what's anonymity?
10:28 mircea_popescu anonymity is generally a curse.
10:28 ThickAsThieves also part of my question
10:28 mircea_popescu !up ADutchGamer
10:28 ThickAsThieves why do we want anonymity at all
10:28 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it's important in some places. specifically, money handling.
10:28 mircea_popescu it's not even useful in social interractions.
10:29 ThickAsThieves maybe, maybe not
10:29 ThickAsThieves many would argue
10:29 ThickAsThieves i dont enjoy the baggage of my hometown and people
10:29 mircea_popescu so get out ?
10:29 ThickAsThieves i did
10:30 mircea_popescu generally people try to resolve through anonimity problems that have their solution elsewhere. because it's cheap.
10:30 ThickAsThieves just syaing some ability to be clean-slated exists
10:30 ThickAsThieves and desire for it
10:30 rithm ThickAsThieves I moved back to my "home town" outside of the city limits now I'm being annexed
10:30 rithm city council next tuesday
10:30 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves not like you can't make a new key any time you want.
10:31 mircea_popescu and speaking of scary shit, http://37.media.tumblr.com/3e98e7c55649dc7423de0eb26630625a/tumblr_mihjrzicaj1qlne6uo1_500.jpg
10:31 ThickAsThieves right, but like i said, i'm envisioning some future where a new key is like being birn yesterday
10:31 ThickAsThieves and you are treated as such
10:31 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves precisely what it is. and yes.
10:31 ThickAsThieves that's what we want?
10:31 mircea_popescu this is what anonymity already is. not a matter of what we want.
10:31 ThickAsThieves hrm
10:31 mircea_popescu how do you treat random 4channer./redditor/etc ?
10:32 mircea_popescu not like he's been born yest ?
10:32 ThickAsThieves so basically people mostly arbitrage their anonymity via lies, deception, unaccountability, ignorant bliss
10:33 mircea_popescu something like that.
10:33 ThickAsThieves maybe it's just being in america so long,
10:33 ThickAsThieves but it's starting to feel surreal like that
10:33 ThickAsThieves like everything is just a measure of fantasy
10:33 ThickAsThieves how fake is this
10:34 mircea_popescu well, human identity is precisely that.
10:34 ThickAsThieves how much lying am i dealing with
10:34 ThickAsThieves people get so mad when you poke at it
10:35 ThickAsThieves it must be painful to be real
10:35 ThickAsThieves fear of death maybe?
10:35 ThickAsThieves mortality*
10:36 mircea_popescu i think this was best discussed in relation to the perianne chick and my old class mate recently.
10:36 mircea_popescu since the us has built this quite insane "valuation by social consensus" thing, people aim to impress others rather than do anything.
10:36 ThickAsThieves but how is it so appealing?
10:37 ThickAsThieves it's like junk food
10:37 ThickAsThieves i guess
10:38 mircea_popescu why is it so appealing. because standing in front of a bunch of people and telling them to get fucked is scary.
10:39 DreadKnight the doge wants to play with that red ball xD
10:39 ThickAsThieves so just stay away from people you want to fuck off
10:40 ThickAsThieves a nation of fucktards and videogamers
10:40 ThickAsThieves some yinyang
10:40 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves avoidance dun work.
10:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00078598 = 17.7238 BTC [-] {3}
10:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1113 @ 0.00078803 = 0.8771 BTC [+]
10:46 ThickAsThieves Once again, I'm putting out there an offer to pay someone to do some light work and compiling for the Altcoin wallet.
10:46 ThickAsThieves Also, jurov, when will CoinBr support ATC? Geez!
10:47 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves but support it to do what with ?
10:49 ThickAsThieves I have a dream that one day this coin will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that Altcoins are created equal and can be used to purchase MPEx stocks."
10:53 mircea_popescu what, directly ?
10:53 ThickAsThieves could be a PT, separate market i guess
10:54 ThickAsThieves directly is fine though, i accept your offer
10:54 mircea_popescu no but it just makes no sense!
10:55 ThickAsThieves you make no sense
10:55 mircea_popescu anyone here have a positive view of teh demmurage notion ? fluffypony ? or who's the altcoin heretique du jour ?
10:55 fluffypony I don't like it at all
10:56 fluffypony I don't think it fixes anything
10:56 fluffypony I do think a minimum subsidy at around the 0.4% - 1.5% mark is a better approach
10:56 mircea_popescu what's a minimum subsidy ?
10:57 fluffypony minsubsidy == lowest the block reward can go to
10:57 fluffypony so the block reward will still taper down to that minsubsidy, but you'll never have a scenario where miner fees > block reward
10:57 mircea_popescu once it's capped might as well make it fixed. 50 btc or w/e
10:58 fluffypony yeah that's the other approach is to give it a fixed value instead of a % of supply
10:58 ben_vulpes doge tried this. to disastrous results.
10:58 mircea_popescu the difference between an infinite series and a finite series is marked. the difference between that last and a constant is not.
10:58 fluffypony which then means your inflation goes down over time
10:58 BigBitz back into 590s (almost)
10:58 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
10:58 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 584.0, Best ask: 589.98, Bid-ask spread: 5.98000, Last trade: 589.99, 24 hour volume: 11717.55646898, 24 hour low: 555.9, 24 hour high: 589.99, 24 hour vwap: 569.313572518
10:58 fluffypony BigBitz: have you sold your Veyron to buy some more BTC?
10:58 fluffypony :-P
10:58 BigBitz No chance.
10:59 mircea_popescu and another attempt to wreck bitcoin failed. o noes.
10:59 BigBitz lots of big buys last 30-60mins.
11:00 ben_vulpes lol BigBitz you have a bugatti?
11:00 BigBitz two.
11:00 mircea_popescu no, he has a toyota veyron
11:00 mircea_popescu it's just as good :D
11:00 BigBitz Ford Veyron :D
11:00 BigBitz ben_vulpes; I wish.
11:01 BigBitz I don't even have a Bugatti toy car.
11:01 BigBitz mircea_popescu probably has Bugatti(s).
11:02 ben_vulpes he likes mercedes, of all the odd choices.
11:02 mircea_popescu hey, i grew up with em.
11:02 BigBitz Ugh. Mercedes.
11:02 BigBitz are you like 142 mircea_popescu?
11:02 ben_vulpes mthreat, mircea_popescu, chetty, hanbot: seen any teslas in BsAs yet?
11:03 mircea_popescu nope.,
11:03 ThickAsThieves tesla isnt in samerica
11:03 mircea_popescu BigBitz soon!
11:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5770 @ 0.00079154 = 4.5672 BTC [+]
11:04 BigBitz :)
11:06 ThickAsThieves “We’re not going to sign an agreement that jeopardizes the future of all Argentines.” He added: “Argentines can remain calm because tomorrow will just be another day and the world will keep on spinning.”
11:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13267 @ 0.00079131 = 10.4983 BTC [-] {2}
11:07 BigBitz demargies.
11:08 mircea_popescu pretty much.
11:09 ben_vulpes demargies?
11:13 mircea_popescu demargies. http://31.media.tumblr.com/793d96d71ffd561915f8c9c49f321e8d/tumblr_mhkptr9JDU1rvl5q0o1_500.jpg
11:14 rithm merk-a-deea
11:14 rithm *merk-a-dees
11:15 ben_vulpes pikachu
11:18 ben_vulpes okay caffeine, get into my brain
11:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.WOL] 25000 @ 0.0000485 = 1.2125 BTC [-] {4}
11:25 mircea_popescu !t m s.wol
11:25 assbot [MPEX:S.WOL] 1D: 0.000042 / 0.0000485 / 0.00005 (25000 shares, 1.21 BTC), 7D: 0.000042 / 0.0000485 / 0.00005 (25000 shares, 1.21 BTC), 30D: 0.000042 / 0.0000488 / 0.00008888 (25900 shares, 1.26 BTC)
11:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13469 @ 0.00078703 = 10.6005 BTC [-]
11:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130369 @ 0.00079496 = 103.6381 BTC [+] {10}
11:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6162 @ 0.00079849 = 4.9203 BTC [+]
11:52 ben_vulpes "fed boosts view of economy" "us stocks tank ~1%"
11:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 36 @ 0.022 = 0.792 BTC
11:56 ben_vulpes http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/07/31/apple-to-cut-about-200-jobs-at-beats/?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_tech
11:56 assbot Apple to Cut About 200 Jobs at Beats - Digits - WSJ
11:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 191 @ 0.00268999 = 0.5138 BTC [+] {2}
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.71172100 BTC to 12`755 shares, 13420 satoshi per share
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] [PAID] 5.58926680 BTC to 63`227 shares, 8840 satoshi per share
12:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] [PAID] 5.00000000 BTC to 50`000 shares, 10000 satoshi per share
12:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 16.58282696 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1442 satoshi per share
12:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 220 @ 0.00300226 = 0.6605 BTC [+] {7}
12:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 57 @ 0.0123647 = 0.7048 BTC [+] {3}
12:19 kakobrekla ben_vulpes two shit companies colliding?
12:20 pete_dushenski good mornin'
12:20 pete_dushenski so ben_vulpes wants me to bring the bittits
12:20 pete_dushenski ThickAsThieves: wants me to bring the moosecocks...
12:20 ThickAsThieves i do?
12:20 pete_dushenski and mircea_popescu is on about jay something or other
12:21 pete_dushenski ThickAsThieves: yes, you do
12:21 ThickAsThieves sometimes i feel like things happen when i'm not around
12:21 pete_dushenski oh i see what i did
12:21 pete_dushenski it was BingoBoingo who wanted the moosecocks
12:21 ThickAsThieves you put moosecocks in my mouth
12:22 pete_dushenski no matter
12:22 pete_dushenski there's more than enough to go around
12:22 pete_dushenski btw the #freenode staff are telling me that pete_dushenski is cloaked but i'm not seeing it, can anyone else?
12:23 mike_c ;;ident pete_dushenski
12:23 ben_vulpes http://instagram.com/p/q_z8MgiJPj
12:23 assbot Instagram
12:23 gribble Nick 'pete_dushenski', with hostmask 'pete_dushenski!~pete_dush@unaffiliated/pete-dushenski/x-8158685', is identified as user 'pete_dushenski', with GPG key id 165749929F9A6BDD, key fingerprint E6625CC14638C4CA404694E9165749929F9A6BDD, and bitcoin address None
12:23 kakobrekla you are cloaked
12:23 mike_c welcome to the retarded cloack/x-23423423 club.
12:23 pete_dushenski shweet, ty mike_c and kakobrekla
12:24 pete_dushenski next question: who handle the blogs.b-a page?
12:24 ben_vulpes lampelina?
12:24 mike_c not sure why we're not cool enough to not have random numbers at the end of our cloaks.
12:24 pete_dushenski dat url needs updating
12:24 mike_c pankkake isn't it?
12:24 ben_vulpes http://instagram.com/p/q_z8MgiJPj
12:24 assbot Instagram
12:24 ben_vulpes oh ya pankkake
12:24 pete_dushenski mike_c: it's not that cool… i had to write it on my chest to get it
12:26 pete_dushenski ;;later tell pankkake please to update blogs to pete_dushenski
12:26 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:26 pete_dushenski ;;later tell pankkake and contravex.com :)
12:26 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:28 ThickAsThieves your brand is so dynamic
12:28 pete_dushenski better than vanilla
12:29 pete_dushenski not as good as pistachio
12:29 ThickAsThieves http://thecabin.net/stories/100401/sty_1004010018.shtml
12:30 ThickAsThieves also: http://bassettsicecream.com/p-51-List-Flavors-in-Order-of-Popularity
12:30 assbot Bassetts Ice Cream - America's Oldest Ice Cream Company - Philadelphia, PA - List Flavors in Order of Popularity
12:30 ThickAsThieves so there.
12:31 ThickAsThieves vanilla is both dynamic and most-liked
12:33 pete_dushenski eh who wants to be most liked?
12:34 pete_dushenski http://contravex.com/2014/07/31/y-combinator-the-american-idol-of-venture-capital/
12:34 assbot Y Combinator: The American Idol of Venture Capital | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
12:35 pete_dushenski it's a long one…
12:38 pete_dushenski ;;nethash
12:38 gribble 149456922.086
12:38 pete_dushenski mmm… spoondoolies...
12:40 princessnell nice one pete. and yes econtalk is solid.
12:41 pete_dushenski princessnell: tis where i first heard of bitcoin
12:41 pete_dushenski like many others, i imagine
12:41 pete_dushenski though much like trilema, it took me about a year to wrap my noodle around it
12:42 pete_dushenski then… bam!
12:42 pete_dushenski anyone else here a french press fan? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/01/magazine/who-made-that-french-press.html?_r=0
12:42 assbot Log In - The New York Times
12:43 princessnell ha, small world. i was a super fangirl in college, couldn't miss an episode.
12:43 princessnell now i am in the econtalk world all the time so i don't tune in as much.
12:45 pete_dushenski there are still some useful conversations there, most episodes are worth an hour of my time
12:47 pete_dushenski for those who want to go crazy fast… on a train: http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20140719p2a00m0na013000c.html
12:47 assbot Transport minister approves construction of maglev train line -
12:47 xanthyos hi
12:47 rithm hi
12:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 378 @ 0.00269729 = 1.0196 BTC [+] {2}
12:55 ThickAsThieves http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/31/mt-gox-ripple-founder-unveils-stellar-a-new-digital-currency-project/?mod=WSJBlog
12:55 assbot Mt. Gox, Ripple Founder Unveils Stellar, a New Digital Currency Project - MoneyBeat - WSJ
12:55 punkman pete_dushenski: YC used to only give $10-15k, $120k happened recently, so they've probably spent much less than $86 mn
12:57 pete_dushenski punkman: orly
12:57 kuzetsa mmm, nice
12:57 pete_dushenski well maybe their expenses are higher than $1 mn / year
12:57 punkman there was also another VC that started giving around $100k to any YC accepted company
12:57 punkman no questions asked
12:58 pete_dushenski punkman: bleat go the sheep
12:58 kuzetsa After March 2015 (equinox) I'll be turning off my 65nm BFL space heater
12:58 punkman http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/28/yuri-milner-sv-angel-offer-every-new-y-combinator-startup-150k/
12:58 assbot Start Fund: Yuri Milner, SV Angel Offer EVERY New Y Combinator Startup $150k | TechCrunch
12:59 kuzetsa it's finally at the point where break-even (for my low electricity costs) is achieved for the mining revenue VS electricity cost O_O
12:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 346 @ 0.00269904 = 0.9339 BTC [+] {2}
12:59 pete_dushenski punkman: the argument can be made that yc's $10k in 2005 fiat is worth about $120k in 2014 fiat
13:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1073 @ 0.00269998 = 2.8971 BTC [+] {5}
13:00 punkman yeah, they also were actually paying attention then
13:00 punkman 1 minute video, lol
13:01 punkman also curious: http://venturebeat.com/2014/03/28/y-combinator-may-be-removing-vcs-from-its-list-of-backers/
13:01 assbot Y Combinator may be removing VCs from its list of backers | VentureBeat | Entrepreneur | by Christina Farr
13:01 punkman "startups enrolled in the program may soon receive funding from an entirely new source: Traditional limited partners. These LPs tend to be family offices, pension funds, and universities."
13:03 pete_dushenski sounds like american idol
13:04 pete_dushenski they'll eventually rebrand to x-factor or equivalent
13:08 ThickAsThieves So, Stellar is Ripple 2.0?
13:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11391 @ 0.00079831 = 9.0935 BTC [-]
13:08 pete_dushenski Pointing the finger at Republicans for congressional inaction, President Barack Obama chided lawmakers with "Stop being mad all the time. Stop just hating all the time. Come on."
13:09 ThickAsThieves he needs some troll spray
13:10 ThickAsThieves trollbegone
13:10 pete_dushenski ThickAsThieves: and of course, stripe, another yc turd, is behind it
13:11 ThickAsThieves i like that Jed is like, fuck you?, no fuck YOU! ... at least
13:12 ThickAsThieves you think theyd take an ATC proposal? maybe namecoin WoT? decentralized google? https://bitcoinfoundation.org/about/grant-program/
13:12 assbot Grant Program | The Bitcoin Foundation
13:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19838 @ 0.00079901 = 15.8508 BTC [+] {2}
13:12 pete_dushenski yc --> stripe --> stellar --> tux --> lulz
13:13 pete_dushenski ThickAsThieves: atc has a shot
13:13 pete_dushenski it has the strongest community for sure
13:16 pete_dushenski off into the world. cheers
13:23 xanthyos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqymcJRSbxI
13:23 assbot Arrested Drunk Guy Sings Queens Bohemian Rhapsody-The Funniest Video Ever! - YouTube
13:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.2665 = 1.599 BTC [-] {5}
13:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.25050001 = 1.002 BTC [-] {2}
13:38 novusordo herro
13:43 punkman "Stellar was developed by the Stellar Development Foundation, a non-profit created by Stripe CEO Patrick Collison and Ripple co-founder Jed McCaleb plus $3 million in initial funding from Stripe."
13:43 punkman why do people keep giving Jed money?
13:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.24544292 = 1.7181 BTC [-] {3}
13:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.24 = 1.2 BTC [-]
13:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 336 @ 0.00284999 = 0.9576 BTC [+]
13:49 mircea_popescu <ThickAsThieves> you put moosecocks in my mouth << he's canadian, it's what they do.
13:51 mircea_popescu <ThickAsThieves> your brand is so dynamic <<< ahahahh good one.
13:53 mircea_popescu <pete_dushenski> punkman: orly << yup.
13:53 mircea_popescu yc used to be all about "give us a chunk of equity for free."
13:57 mircea_popescu hi novusordo
13:57 mircea_popescu punkman "people" aren't. idiots tho...
13:58 mircea_popescu http://37.media.tumblr.com/ca5a2bc6916fac10fdfb3ef49ff75b4c/tumblr_mhf4sbUNti1qlne6uo1_500.jpg << liek so.
14:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 210 @ 0.00284999 = 0.5985 BTC [+]
14:07 punkman http://i.imgur.com/okfZ2Di.png
14:14 punkman https://www.stellar.org/about/mandate/#Bitcoin_program
14:14 assbot Mandate | Stellar
14:16 punkman "The Foundation received a loan of $3,000,000 from Stripe which was subsequently repaid with 2% of the stellars. "
14:17 mircea_popescu wait what ?!
14:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 219 @ 0.00269999 = 0.5913 BTC [+] {3}
14:18 mircea_popescu oh that thing.
14:18 punkman so they value stellars at $0.0015 each
14:19 punkman 5k free stellars if I signup with facebook, equals $7.5. facebook account costs $0.05
14:19 mircea_popescu they have such a no idea wtf they're doing i can't even be bothered to try and short the things
14:19 punkman indeed
14:19 mircea_popescu not like any of the "investors" are gonna buy anyway
14:21 punkman 20 billion stellars to be given to btc holders, calculated by the percentage of total btc you hold on some future date
14:22 punkman this looks like it will die much faster than Ripple
14:25 mircea_popescu i don't get this.
14:25 mircea_popescu so they are allowing people to dilute the stripe investment wih facebook accounts and mere btc holdings ?
14:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00083538 = 4.0098 BTC [+]
14:25 mircea_popescu this looks like investors in stripe will be able to sue collision for simple fraud.
14:25 punkman 100 billion total, 1% inflation a year
14:26 mircea_popescu "you gave away 3mn of our money for the equivalent of of 600k facebook accounts ? FU."
14:26 mircea_popescu someone's lying somewhere.
14:28 punkman this scam is getting old already
14:28 punkman but I do want to see another dozen iterations for some reason
14:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 514 @ 0.00290995 = 1.4957 BTC [+]
14:32 punkman https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/21/ <- why is profit only 100 total, leaving 900 in the pot
14:32 assbot Game 21 - Death 6506 Life 3494 Year 187 - War of Life
14:33 mike_c punkman: right now, 35% of pot goes to life, and nobody bought any shares
14:33 mike_c free money!
14:34 punkman wouldn't it look better if you seeded each side with 1 atc or so
14:36 mike_c perhaps. on the other hand, you just learned something? btc games are seeded with bets.
14:37 punkman yeah I was thinking 35% of 1000, forgot to add the bets
14:37 punkman maybe I should make another calculator
14:42 mircea_popescu princessnell you ever seen daisies btw ?
14:42 princessnell the flower?
14:45 mircea_popescu 60s czech movie.
14:50 ben_vulpes ;;later tell pete_dushenski there can only be one: http://www.amazon.com/Coffee-Shrub-CLEVER-Clever-Dripper/dp/B0047W70GY
14:50 assbot Amazon.com: Clever Coffee Dripper (L): Single Serve Brewing Machines: Kitchen & Dining
14:50 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:53 mircea_popescu !up ziggamon
14:57 ben_vulpes i am hacking on bitcoin things
14:57 ben_vulpes in my office
14:57 ben_vulpes with my dog curled at my feet
14:57 ben_vulpes life is *so good*
14:58 mircea_popescu lol ben_win
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15:14 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spondoolies-delivers-first-sp30/
15:14 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spondoolies-tech-updates-power-drawhash-rate/
15:14 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spondoolies-halts-sales-sp30-investigating-technical-issues/
15:14 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spoondolies-sp30-asic-arrives-tuesday/
15:14 mircea_popescu what's this lol.
15:15 mike_c he's more prolific than you!
15:16 mircea_popescu i vaguely recall these being old tho
15:19 artifexd ThickAsThieves: This you? http://i.imgur.com/kS8uaQV.jpg
15:20 mircea_popescu artifexd i dun think so tbh.
15:20 mircea_popescu glasses, hat, weird mouth posture, horrible pic. but anwyay.
15:20 artifexd He said something about his citibank styled btc shirt the other day.
15:21 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/daisies/
15:21 mircea_popescu a true
15:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10911 @ 0.00083724 = 9.1351 BTC [+] {2}
15:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 989 @ 0.00084275 = 0.8335 BTC [+]
15:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1421 @ 0.00083538 = 1.1871 BTC [-]
16:01 mike_c ;;later tell jurov re: the games tend to go in one direction. current game was looking like it was about to tip heavy death and did a 180. http://bit.ly/1pJopUe
16:01 gribble The operation succeeded.
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16:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1285 @ 0.00083538 = 1.0735 BTC [-]
16:18 ben_vulpes http://rt.com/news/176852-bolivia-israel-terrorist-state/
16:18 mike_c wasn't bolivia the one that banned bitcoin?
16:26 mircea_popescu ecuador.
16:26 Duffer1 how would they go about trying to do that?
16:26 mircea_popescu "offense in Gaza which already killed more than 1,300 dead"
16:28 mircea_popescu hm, anyone ever compiled the us civilian death toll yet ?
16:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00083535 = 11.2355 BTC [-] {2}
16:30 mircea_popescu so like half a mil in iraq, afew mil in afghanistan/pakistan/whatever ? mkay. loooking forward to bolivia declaring teh us a terrorist state once a day till 2016.
16:31 The20YearIRCloud I want to know how many were militants, and how many were civilians held in known military installations
16:32 mircea_popescu and how will you know that ?
16:32 The20YearIRCloud magic
16:32 mircea_popescu there's at least that one case where the israelis bombed a "school" that held a bunch of missiles.
16:32 The20YearIRCloud and there recently a hospital bombed where militants were instagramming it full of explosives
16:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 413 @ 0.00375188 = 1.5495 BTC [-] {3}
16:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1392 @ 0.00083752 = 1.1658 BTC [+]
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17:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4306 @ 0.00083299 = 3.5869 BTC [-]
17:03 pete_dushenski dow crashes, mpex soars...
17:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9814 @ 0.00083171 = 8.1624 BTC [-] {2}
17:05 The20YearIRCloud what's causing the dump?
17:06 mircea_popescu teh jooz.
17:06 pete_dushenski on the dow? probably just reality
17:06 pete_dushenski jooz = reality
17:06 mircea_popescu mmmm steak
17:08 novusordo MP: not sure if you saw my message from half an hour or so ago, my shitty connection died
17:09 FabianB !s http://the-wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/28/Blockchain-offers-loans-up-to-10-bitcoins-and-savings-accounts-to-its-users
17:09 assbot Blockchain’s offers loans and savings account to its users
17:09 assbot 0 results for 'http://the-wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/28/Blockchain-offers-loans-up-to-10-bitcoins-and-savings-accounts-to-its-users' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fthe-wsj.com%2Fmoneybeat%2F2014%2F07%2F28%2FBlockchain-offers-loans-up-to-10-bitcoins-and-savings-accounts-to-its-users
17:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.29973 = 1.7984 BTC [+] {3}
17:10 rithm huh
17:11 mircea_popescu novusordo did not.
17:12 rithm https://block-chainl.info/savings-loans/Blockchain-Savings-and-Loans.htm
17:12 assbot Blockchain Savings and Loans
17:12 rithm hard to believe that
17:12 mircea_popescu lmao
17:14 rithm that's fake
17:14 rithm why the fuck is there an l in there
17:15 mircea_popescu or a dash
17:15 The20YearIRCloud cause you're tarded
17:15 mthreat and what is the-wsj.com
17:15 mircea_popescu or, for that matter, a knuckle. http://girls.twistys.com/preview/totm/08-2014/p03/p/15.jpg
17:15 The20YearIRCloud some tarded site
17:15 rithm so it's two domain spoofs
17:15 The20YearIRCloud yes
17:15 rithm a fake article about something that's crazy to another fake site
17:15 mircea_popescu three! three domain spoofs
17:17 novusordo mircea_popescu: was just curious about the "new blood" rating you left on WoT for me, haven't checked my ratings for quite a while and just noticed.
17:17 FabianB omg, lol, sorry for posting that
17:17 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot novusordo
17:17 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask novusordo!~novusordo@unaffiliated/novusordo. Trust relationship from user assbot to user novusordo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=novusordo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=novusordo | Rated since: Wed Jan 25 18:31:34 2012
17:17 mircea_popescu novusordo because of it you are able to speak here.
17:17 rithm that's tricky tho
17:17 rithm i was digging into it already
17:18 mircea_popescu shit FabianB so i cant has 10 btc loan and savings acct nao ?!
17:18 FabianB for 7% a week i guess
17:19 mircea_popescu i am never trusting another internet for as long as i lyf.
17:19 mircea_popescu internets are pigs.
17:19 FabianB blockchain.info is already always advertising for btcjam, i guess almost as good
17:20 mircea_popescu yeah the differences are getting really minute
17:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00080628 = 1.2497 BTC [-]
17:24 novusordo oh, ok I get it now
17:25 novusordo in order to get voice, assbot must have some level of trust to the user
17:25 novusordo thought the only requirement was being authed
17:25 mircea_popescu exactky. http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/
17:25 assbot #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
17:34 mod6 %t
17:34 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 248 Last Price: 205 24h-Vol: 7k High: 206 Low: 205 VWAP: 205
17:36 FabianB $traded
17:36 empyex FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE S.WOL
17:38 pete_dushenski so russ roberts, host of econtalk, retweeted my blog skewering ycombinator: https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/494884576443895808
17:38 pete_dushenski veeery good chance he didn't read the article
17:39 pete_dushenski i'm still holding out that sam altman will
17:39 fluffypony lol
17:39 fluffypony I see Jackson Palmer abandoned Dogecoin to work on Stellar
17:40 pete_dushenski what's more to the moon than stellar shit?
17:40 Duffer1 i haven't kept up with the altcoin scene wtfs a stellar?
17:40 fluffypony Duffer1: Ripple 2.0
17:40 Duffer1 gg
17:40 fluffypony Jed's pet project
17:40 mircea_popescu Duffer1 people that failed doge and ripple joined forces to make a new scamcoin.
17:42 pete_dushenski sorta like bernanke and maddoff getting together to make a new hedge fund
17:43 Duffer1 ha
17:45 mircea_popescu THE FUTURE OF DOLLARS
17:46 fluffypony lol
17:46 fluffypony https://github.com/stellar/stellard/commit/4173cd291cf1cc94ffab321c5ddbc21a8058a4a4
17:46 assbot XRP -> STR 4173cd2 stellar/stellard GitHub
17:46 mircea_popescu lol
17:46 fluffypony it's a Ripple altcoin :-P
17:47 rithm because ripple is interplanetary
17:47 rithm everyone knows that
17:47 rithm chainless, non bound by latency, stellar scaling
17:49 mircea_popescu basically they're all copying the bfl model.
17:49 mircea_popescu promise, fail to deliver, roll it up in new promise
17:49 mircea_popescu pity scammors are so anticreative.
17:49 rithm awesome search/replace though
17:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 785 @ 0.00270999 = 2.1273 BTC [+] {6}
17:50 mircea_popescu this is the fucking result of having created a reservaton of half a billion cud chewers that would rather dream than do.
17:51 mircea_popescu just keep em dreamin'.
17:51 rithm oh it's actuall mccaleb's fork of ripple
17:51 rithm and it's named stellard. guys i'm telling you the idea of ripple WAS interplanetary transactions
17:51 rithm i know i sound crazy but i'm not
17:52 rithm none of this chained shit work earth <--> mars
17:52 mircea_popescu !up ADutchGamer
17:52 rithm too much latency, you need a new digital fiat
17:56 Bet created: "Ripple (XRP) over 0.00002 BTC before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1011/
17:57 mircea_popescu https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/20/ << 25 btc almost, not so bad
17:57 assbot Game 20 - Death 4802 Life 5198 Year 860 - War of Life
18:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 19 @ 0.02701639 = 0.5133 BTC [-]
18:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 216 @ 0.00272 = 0.5875 BTC [+]
18:23 justusranvier https://twitter.com/rayne_2/status/494676481268649984
18:25 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/20/ << 25 btc almost, not so bad << .25 btc/wk profit. pretty good.
18:25 assbot Game 20 - Death 4916 Life 5084 Year 865 - War of Life
18:25 mircea_popescu justusranvier ahaha
18:25 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes like a small miner.
18:28 justusranvier It gets worse: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Homeopaths_Without_Borders
18:28 assbot Homeopaths Without Borders - RationalWiki
18:28 fluffypony hah hah
18:40 BingoBoingo !up princessnell
18:42 BingoBoingo !up coltan
18:46 assbot coltan +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
18:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 645 @ 0.00272999 = 1.7608 BTC [+] {2}
18:48 BingoBoingo !up coltan
18:48 BingoBoingo Hello coltan
18:49 coltan Hi there
18:49 coltan is anybody of you investing in maidsafe?
18:49 BingoBoingo I doubt it
18:51 BigBitz MaidSafe. lol.
18:51 BingoBoingo http://contravex.com/2014/04/20/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/
18:51 assbot The Brokenness of MaidSafe | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
18:52 coltan I read that already the guys doesn't seem to be into bitcoin 2.0 that much
18:53 coltan you can criticize but they've got a working beta so they are delivering something
18:54 BingoBoingo Well, but what is it they are delivering. What is Maidsafe's function?
18:55 BingoBoingo Is it a function that can generate the sort of demand that would offset existing investments with revenue?
18:55 BigBitz No.
18:55 BigBitz It's nonsense.
18:56 BingoBoingo ^ exactly
18:56 coltan if you think so but they took the internet and added some privacy and security to it seems nice to me
18:57 BigBitz IF you're a fanboi I feel bad for you son, you got 99 problems but picking bad coins ain't one.
18:57 BingoBoingo coltan: But what parts of the internet and how strong is the actual privacy and security compared to existing alternatives
18:58 coltan BingoBoingo: true
18:59 BigBitz What do you mean true? You just commented that 'they took the internet and added some privacy and security to it seems nice to me' .....
18:59 BingoBoingo coltan: You have to consider that Maidsafe's actual competitor isn't Dropbox, but real solutions that... already work very well
19:01 asciilifeform https://github.com/stellar/stellard/commit/4173cd291cf1cc94ffab321c5ddbc21a8058a4a4 << lol!
19:01 assbot XRP -> STR 4173cd2 stellar/stellard GitHub
19:02 asciilifeform 'sed' artists, Amazing!
19:02 coltan So I guess this is also the place to get some hate about ethereum?
19:03 mircea_popescu coltan hardly. but you could buy some.
19:03 coltan i've seen your offer :P
19:04 mircea_popescu <coltan> I read that already the guys doesn't seem to be into bitcoin 2.0 that much << nor into web 2.0, for that matter.
19:06 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> 'sed' artists, Amazing! << ki8nda reminds me of any kid's first hacking, replacing strings in binaries.
19:06 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: then kid discovers checksums - learns to do arithmetic.
19:06 mircea_popescu justusranvier http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9dp8uSZoQ1qddd4so1_500.jpg << meanwhile the proctologists sans frontieres are... buried in work ?
19:06 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: these people - have not yet reached that state of child development
19:07 mircea_popescu then one day discovers cheksums that are FUCKING WRONG
19:07 mircea_popescu learns 2 hash...
19:07 ThickAsThieves <+artifexd> ThickAsThieves: This you? http://i.imgur.com/kS8uaQV.jpg /// Just some random dood wearing my shirt.
19:08 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Kind of looks like Zerlan
19:08 BingoBoingo Vaguely
19:08 BigBitz Hah. It fucking does as well.
19:09 ThickAsThieves <+FabianB> omg, lol, sorry for posting that /// pay the assbot!
19:09 mircea_popescu Your website van-ads.com
19:09 mircea_popescu Hello, My name is Steve and I am a representative of Website72hrs.com. Our company has been in the business of web development for over a decade and we believe that our services are unparalleled which is why we have remained at the forefront of the industry. Website72hrs.com specializes in designing professional looking websites at a very cost-effective price tag of $150. Apart from Static web design, other services th
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19:09 mircea_popescu see ben_vulpes, your webdesigns suck.
19:11 ThickAsThieves <+coltan> I read that already the guys doesn't seem to be into bitcoin 2.0 that much /\\/ o dear...
19:13 pete_dushenski ThickAsThieves: well… http://contravex.com/2014/03/19/there-is-no-bitcoin-2-0/
19:13 assbot There Is No "Bitcoin 2.0" | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
19:13 mircea_popescu i guess we're just not poor enough to care about "2.0"
19:14 ThickAsThieves maybe we she should make hipster I <3 BTC 2.0
19:14 ThickAsThieves t-shirts
19:14 mircea_popescu why not fur coat 2.0 tshirts ?
19:15 pete_dushenski business model 2.0
19:15 mircea_popescu buy em for so's bday. "honey, i got you an ecological hermine. it's a tshirt"
19:15 pete_dushenski antique 2.0
19:15 ThickAsThieves Beta 2.0
19:15 pete_dushenski racism 2.0
19:15 mircea_popescu since we're on the topic, is cunt asshole 2.0 or vice versa ?
19:15 ThickAsThieves 3.0
19:15 mircea_popescu i mean on one hand the cunt has more features
19:16 mircea_popescu but on the other, it generally ends in the ass.
19:16 pete_dushenski it's definitely vice versa
19:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3704 @ 0.00082348 = 3.0502 BTC [+]
19:16 ThickAsThieves what about mouth.0?
19:16 mircea_popescu whoa. i just realised my power supply is rated 220
19:16 mircea_popescu THIS IS 2.0 OF 2.0!
19:16 ThickAsThieves 220.0
19:18 ThickAsThieves all the .0s are taken we'll need to make a new domain
19:18 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: if only anything'd been designed lol
19:19 mircea_popescu oh sad day, all my forks are 1.0
19:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 970 @ 0.00272484 = 2.6431 BTC [-] {2}
19:19 BingoBoingo Really, all my forks are 3.0
19:19 mircea_popescu you got all that meat...
19:20 BingoBoingo *except for the ones that are 4.0
19:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8111 @ 0.00082241 = 6.6706 BTC [-]
19:22 ThickAsThieves pretty hostile eh http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ca5tf/sabotage_at_satoshi_forest_seansoutpost/
19:22 assbot Sabotage at Satoshi Forest (@SeansOutpost) : Bitcoin
19:25 cazalla probably did it himself to keep donations coming in
19:28 ben_vulpes gotta spend money to make money
19:28 ben_vulpes hue
19:30 cazalla hey reddit, the water bill is $700 this month but you managed to raised $7000, pat on back reward is warranted
19:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00271 = 1.084 BTC [-]
19:39 pete_dushenski https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/494987461781901312
19:43 pete_dushenski "I was a bitcoin skeptic, but Stellar might just get me excited about cryptocurrency." -Twitter broad
19:45 pete_dushenski http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surp/#b156 << rockin' the boat!
19:45 assbot BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1121.08 B (86%) on Yes, 186.28 B (14%) on No | closing in 6 months 2 weeks | weight: 59`033 (100`000 to 1)
19:45 pete_dushenski ;;ticker
19:45 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.08, Best ask: 585.12, Bid-ask spread: 2.04000, Last trade: 583.08, 24 hour volume: 9498.92583311, 24 hour low: 555.9, 24 hour high: 590.0, 24 hour vwap: 574.887660693
19:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 390 @ 0.0027 = 1.053 BTC [-]
19:46 pete_dushenski ;;calc 0.0045*583
19:46 gribble 2.6235
19:46 pete_dushenski ooo coffee money
19:49 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: my philosophy is not that it should be hard, but merely that if anyone complains, of anything, it should be made worse for them. << be grateful.
19:51 pete_dushenski FoOdies5: but seriously tho, seenig what kids these days grow up on, we're pretty much fucked << has said everyone since forever. not that i'm removed from this
19:52 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: decimation intellectuals SHOULD run everything. the only problem is that the courtiers of the french republic are not intellectuals. << indeed. contemporary courtiers are but lengthily-educated jesters
19:54 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Seriously where did Contravex come from that it is so much better than MooseCocks
19:55 pete_dushenski moosecocks was too obvious
19:55 pete_dushenski might as well be HuitPouces
19:56 pete_dushenski and what, you wanna name my blog for me nao?
20:02 pete_dushenski contravex, for those who care, is a riff off convex, as in convex payoffs, à la taleb.
20:05 BingoBoingo BAlright
20:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15882 @ 0.00082436 = 13.0925 BTC [+] {2}
20:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00082343 = 6.1346 BTC [-] {2}
20:19 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes i was expecting a lot more obvious drunkedness tbh. but sober ? maybe you should write a book. << book? what book. "hey. tits? they're worth 0.1 btc now, which i'll hold for you indefinitely. let's tits. tits everyone? great." << precisely. why book when you can blog?
20:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 8 @ 0.08000474 = 0.64 BTC [-] {4}
20:31 BingoBoingo First http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/31/july-combined-trading-statement/
20:31 assbot July Combined Trading Statement | Bingo Blog
20:32 BingoBoingo ^ Date says 7/31, because Blog isn't GMT
20:35 penguirker New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/31/july-combined-trading-statement/
20:42 * BingoBoingo patiently waits for ATC markets to go all to hell like last month
20:44 ben_vulpes ;;later tell pete_dushenski i already have one web thing that i gotta stare at all day on my plate, the blog'd be too much right at this point
20:44 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:56 BingoBoingo !up jordandotdev
21:08 BingoBoingo %t
21:08 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 248 Last Price: 205 24h-Vol: 8k High: 206 Low: 205 VWAP: 205
21:08 BingoBoingo %ob
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21:08 BingoBoingo %d
21:08 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 501657.65 in 515 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -27.00
21:09 BingoBoingo %tslb
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21:11 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
21:11 gribble Current Blocks: 313408 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1087 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 1 hour, 24 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19707575923.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.18313
21:12 BingoBoingo ;;baseball,NLRookieoftheYear
21:12 gribble Error: "baseball,NLRookieoftheYear" is not a valid command.
21:13 BingoBoingo !up nam-shub
21:14 nam-shub thanks BingoBoingo - I can voice up my other nick if I have something truly beautiful to impart to the community
21:14 ben_vulpes ;;ticker
21:14 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 584.97, Best ask: 587.15, Bid-ask spread: 2.18000, Last trade: 586.97, 24 hour volume: 9033.75227728, 24 hour low: 556.14, 24 hour high: 590.0, 24 hour vwap: 576.693349374
21:14 ben_vulpes !down nam-shub
21:15 ben_vulpes neener neener you're not authed
21:16 BingoBoingo !up RagnarsBitch
21:19 BingoBoingo !up fanquake
21:26 BingoBoingo !up Duffer1
21:28 decimation http://online.wsj.com/articles/argentina-mulls-legal-options-in-debt-dispute-1406814851
21:28 assbot Argentine Debt Feud Finds Much Fault, Few Fixes - WSJ
21:28 decimation unlike the us, Argentina doesn't have the ability to pretend to be solvent forever
21:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12352 @ 0.00082262 = 10.161 BTC [-]
21:30 decimation "A U.S. District Court has ruled that Argentina can't pay holders of restructured bonds until it compensates the holdouts, who have sued for full payment on bonds the country defaulted on in 2001. Some investors accepted discounted bonds in restructurings in 2005 and 2010. The bonds fall under New York jurisdiction because they were issued in New York."
21:30 decimation This is why New York thinks it can throw its "weight" around with bitcoin regulation
21:34 BingoBoingo Well, it seems... New York isn't as important as it used to be if Newer New York can flip it the bird
21:37 BingoBoingo !up jwSchool
21:37 The20YearIRCloud joy
21:38 The20YearIRCloud so argentina is in default because they can't restructur ethe bonds from 2001?
21:38 BingoBoingo the20year: Well, because the people who didn't want the to resturcture... Were the ones who claimed jurisdiction
21:40 The20YearIRCloud guess i have a hard time grasping it
21:41 The20YearIRCloud I don't understand why they issued debt through new york, unless they had to be approved in a US state in order to sell it here
21:42 BingoBoingo the20year: Well, that's why New York Imagines they can regulate Bitcoin, because New York is where people used to have to trade if the wanted access to capital
21:43 The20YearIRCloud lots of VC and capital in NY , i'm sure they feel like they're still gateway to the US
21:45 BingoBoingo Well, this is why the trend in US States not named New York seems to be Not really regulating Bitcoin-Bitcoin interaction
21:45 BingoBoingo Especially Texas.
21:46 The20YearIRCloud are there any states that have said they want to regulate?
21:46 BingoBoingo They dunno how Big Bitcoin might get, but if it takes off this seems to be the chance for them to leave New York's shadow
21:47 BingoBoingo It's murkey aside from the NY Bitlicense thing. Some have taken the Federal line at Bitcoin isn't... Money as they regulate it like Texas.
21:47 BingoBoingo Most states seem to be waiting
21:51 BingoBoingo !up peterl
21:51 peterl hi
21:51 The20YearIRCloud hi
21:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12247 @ 0.00082286 = 10.0776 BTC [+]
21:53 BingoBoingo peterl: I dunno if your are interested, but the first MPIF PC statement's already hit.
21:54 The20YearIRCloud what's that?
21:54 peterl oh, linked on the blogs?
21:54 The20YearIRCloud this is for tat's thing?
21:54 BingoBoingo peterl: Yeah
21:55 BingoBoingo The20YearIRCloud: Nah, from mine
21:55 BingoBoingo http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/31/july-combined-trading-statement/
21:55 assbot July Combined Trading Statement | Bingo Blog
21:55 BingoBoingo Pushed it out as soon as the month rolled over GMT because it has some new
21:55 BingoBoingo s
21:56 The20YearIRCloud BingoBoingo: you're an issuer on mpex?
21:56 BingoBoingo The20YearIRCloud: No, I was hired to do work for Mircea. Mircea is the issuer
21:57 The20YearIRCloud k, i haven't been paying attention to most of the mpex listings (obviously)
21:57 The20YearIRCloud !up duffer
21:57 jwSchool think in cali it's been recognized as currency
21:58 jwSchool not sure if that's good or bad in terms or regulation, tbh
21:58 jwSchool nevermind
21:59 jwSchool think they just repealed a law that outlawed it
21:59 jwSchool The bill repeals the provision of the old legislation, which banned the use of "anything but the lawful money of the United States."
22:00 Duffer1 good evening b-a
22:00 BingoBoingo Evening Duffer1
22:00 The20YearIRCloud Oty
22:00 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: "short-sighted"
22:00 The20YearIRCloud It's gonna be interesting to see how tomorrow's RS conference call goes
22:00 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Where?
22:01 BingoBoingo Oh, the statement.
22:01 peterl am I calculating right, BingoBoingo you are up abou 0.33% this month?
22:01 mircea_popescu <decimation> unlike the us, Argentina doesn't have the ability to pretend to be solvent forever << it does have the ability to pretend. it doesn't have the hordes of idiots to pretend they believe the pretense.
22:01 mircea_popescu but this seems largely an academic point.
22:01 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: I find the wording I used more accurate than your suggested correction.
22:02 mircea_popescu also, this is well disputed in the logs. they dont "fall under ny jurisdiction because they were issued in ny". they specifically say they do, because of a previous default.
22:02 BingoBoingo peterl: Doesn't sound wrong?
22:02 mircea_popescu and also http://trilema.com/2014/understanding-argentina’s-coming-default-for-real-this-time/
22:02 assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
22:02 mircea_popescu The20YearIRCloud ^
22:02 The20YearIRCloud gonna read, might have to buy some credits first though
22:03 The20YearIRCloud it's redirecting me to the homepage mircea_popescu
22:03 peterl does the ' mess up the link?
22:04 The20YearIRCloud now it works
22:04 mircea_popescu o.O
22:04 The20YearIRCloud err no, it's just doing a random article redirect
22:04 mircea_popescu you are probably messing up the apostrophe.
22:04 mircea_popescu lick it from teh log ?
22:05 mircea_popescu o look, log messes up the apostrophe too.
22:05 mircea_popescu ’
22:05 mircea_popescu lol ? === ’
22:06 peterl darn computers
22:06 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/understanding-argentina%E2%80%99s-coming-default-for-real-this-time/ ?
22:06 assbot Understanding Argentinas Coming Default, For Real This Time pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
22:07 mircea_popescu e2 80 99, RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
22:07 The20YearIRCloud you ran me out of credits mircea_popescu with your redirects
22:07 mircea_popescu tis my plan.
22:08 mircea_popescu gotta remember not to apostrophe in blog titles.
22:09 mircea_popescu and also http://trilema.com/2014/understanding-argentina’s-coming-default-for-real-this-time/
22:09 assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
22:09 mircea_popescu meh!
22:10 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/understanding-argentinas-coming-default-for-real-this-time/ thar.
22:10 assbot Understanding Argentinas Coming Default, For Real This Time pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
22:10 nam-shub whats the RON asset trade or what did they trade?
22:11 mircea_popescu say wut?
22:12 BingoBoingo nam-shub: It was attempting to MM BTC/RON currency pair. Profitable safe enough opportunities were too rare and ATC was too promising to keep resource allocation as it was.
22:12 BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=711979.msg8042788#msg8042788 << Lulztalk now attracts internet famous as scammzors
22:12 assbot This is how you ERASE the BS TRUST on this forum
22:13 nam-shub What is a RON then?
22:13 mircea_popescu https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Sollog << thats lulzy.
22:13 assbot Sollog - Encyclopedia Dramatica
22:13 BingoBoingo nam-shub: Romanian leiu
22:14 BingoBoingo nam-shub: Basically Romanian fiat
22:14 nam-shub ahh...
22:14 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/understanding-argentinas-coming-default-for-real-this-time/
22:14 nam-shub thanks
22:14 nam-shub does anyone want a link to MP's piece on Argentinian Default?
22:15 BingoBoingo !MPIF
22:15 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021718 B (Total: 474.94 B). Delta: -0.34 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]
22:15 mircea_popescu nam-shub sell it for bitcents!
22:16 mircea_popescu "The point the op was making is that adoni has mega millions in assets yet all their people posting here get negative ratings from broke losers mad they have no mega million dollar assets to dicuss deals on." << check it out, teh tortilla got moar competition.
22:16 The20YearIRCloud Btctalk is..... interesting
22:17 The20YearIRCloud I want mega millions
22:17 mircea_popescu that'd be basically a few trillion
22:18 The20YearIRCloud Zimbabwe dollars or normal ones?
22:18 BingoBoingo The20YearIRCloud: Isn't MegaMillions a lottery game?
22:19 The20YearIRCloud Yes
22:19 peterl if I had a million dollars ...
22:19 The20YearIRCloud A powerball competitor
22:21 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/json/
22:24 BingoBoingo Who runs http://www.bcoinnews.com again?
22:24 assbot Bitcoin News | Bitcoin Charts, News, and Tutorials. Bitcoin mining and network statistics live.
22:25 BingoBoingo ;;later tell jborkl you have a pluging behaving badly...
22:25 gribble The operation succeeded.
22:31 BingoBoingo ;;later tell jborkl not in a spammy way, but in a different sort of way you need to know about
22:31 gribble The operation succeeded.
22:36 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/DanBilzerian/status/489837122476462082
22:43 BingoBoingo !up aegis
22:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4617 @ 0.00082286 = 3.7991 BTC [+]
22:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00082245 = 4.7291 BTC [-] {3}
22:59 decimation so the Fed "prints" dollars, loans them to New York Banks, the banks loan the printed dollars to Argentina, Argentina wants a better deal, Argentina decides not to pay, and now the Supreme court 'upholds' that the US court finds that Argentina must repay the printed dollars loaned to the banks loaned to Argentina?
22:59 decimation I can see why default is the most attractive option here
23:03 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/07/spy-reporting-federal-crimes.pdf << fuhrer decree to the effect that nsa, etc. can be used to enforce u.s. laws.
23:03 asciilifeform (IANAL, but it's pretty much unambiguous)
23:05 asciilifeform http://pastebin.com/uQYdQAFM
23:05 assbot REPORTING OF INFORMATION CONCERNING FEDERAL CRIMES MEMORANDUM OF UNDER - Pastebin.com
23:05 asciilifeform ^ deturdified
23:08 BingoBoingo Future 'Murican Lawyers http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/bar-exam-tech-disaster-inspires-lawsuit-threats-operat-1613129108/+Sean-Newell
23:08 assbot Bar Exam Tech Disaster Inspires Lawsuit Threats, Operatic Profanity
23:15 mircea_popescu that deadspin thing gawker too ?
23:15 mircea_popescu decimation> I can see why default is the most attractive option here << it is quite as the local elite presents it, a matter of "fuck you or else we might as well go home."
23:16 mircea_popescu im impressed with their not being quite ready to go home yet. various other twerps with delusions of historical importance (france, say) don't have it.
23:16 mircea_popescu they wish they had it, they like to pretend like they have it, but they don't actually.
23:17 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Yeah
23:17 BingoBoingo Still software that fails at transmitting plaintext
23:17 mircea_popescu then various twerps derp about "upholding contracts" in mises.org, and when i call them too smart by half they nervously BUT ANONYMOUSLY address it
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23:17 mircea_popescu because yeah, that's the right thing to do when mp says you';re stupid, come out with an "there have been some implications that we're stupid from some people that don't understand us"
23:24 mircea_popescu anyway that lawyer shit is lulzy
23:24 mircea_popescu Sergio Antonio (@SergiConte) July 30, 2014 fuck you @examsoft i've been crying for two hours. i'm not even fucking kidding right now this is the worst night of my life. <<< supposedly adult us male.
23:24 mircea_popescu someone twist his fucking nipples already.
23:27 BingoBoingo I know, really
23:27 ben_vulpes MEN DON'T CRY, FAGGOT
23:29 mircea_popescu they may cry, but it wouldn't be over the internets not uploading, srsly.
23:29 mircea_popescu i mean wtf is this, angry german kids ?
23:29 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0
23:29 assbot angry german kid - YouTube
23:32 ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ2TAsEzv0M
23:32 assbot Angry Kid fart - YouTube
23:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14426 @ 0.00082544 = 11.9078 BTC [+] {2}
23:39 ben_vulpes http://saaaam.s3.amazonaws.com/lazycoin_whitepaper.pdf
23:41 decimation any wannabe lawyer who finds the bar exam to be too difficult to pass doesn't deserve to be a lawyer
23:42 decimation http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2013-11-20/blame-rich-overeducated-elites-as-our-society-frays
23:42 assbot Blame Rich, Overeducated Elites as Our Society Frays - Bloomberg View
23:42 decimation "Economic Modeling Specialists Intl. recently estimated that twice as many law graduates pass the bar exam as there are job openings for them. In other words, every year U.S. law schools churn out about 25,000 ?surplus? lawyers, many of whom are in debt. A large number of them go to law school with an ambition to enter politics someday. "
23:44 decimation 25,000 is probably a low estimate
23:44 cazalla i wonder if stephanie accepts lazycoin in lazytown ben_vulpes
23:44 ben_vulpes til about lazytown
23:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00082889 = 15.4174 BTC [+] {2}
23:49 mircea_popescu da fuck is lazytown
23:49 mircea_popescu ;;ud lazytown
23:49 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Lazytown | Lazytown. The most awesome show on earth, starring Magnus Scheving (six- time European champion gymnast, entrepreneur of the year and an Icelandic ...
23:49 mircea_popescu o.O
23:51 mircea_popescu decimation re bloomberg, damn anti-intellectualism is (still) going strong in that country.
23:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00082847 = 5.7164 BTC [-]
23:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.29986799 = 1.4993 BTC [+] {3}
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