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00:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.06899998 = 0.966 BTC [+] {2}
00:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06899999 = 0.69 BTC [+]
00:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12897 @ 0.00080335 = 10.3608 BTC [-] {2}
00:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1102 @ 0.00080273 = 0.8846 BTC [-]
00:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06899999 = 0.69 BTC [+]
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00:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00080215 = 9.7862 BTC [-]
01:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00080208 = 3.4489 BTC [-] {2}
01:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3962 @ 0.00080243 = 3.1792 BTC [+]
01:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17479 @ 0.00080243 = 14.0257 BTC [+]
01:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.06517444 = 1.1731 BTC [-] {4}
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01:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.06897776 = 0.9657 BTC [+] {4}
01:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 42 @ 0.0185888 = 0.7807 BTC [-]
02:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18664 @ 0.00080393 = 15.0045 BTC [+] {2}
02:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.0008023 = 16.728 BTC [-] {2}
02:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3286 @ 0.00080231 = 2.6364 BTC [+]
02:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 16 @ 0.03847462 = 0.6156 BTC [-]
02:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06899998 = 0.69 BTC [+] {3}
02:30 Mats_cd03 white girl wasted
02:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00080203 = 4.0503 BTC [-]
02:36 xmj moin
02:36 xmj any SCUBA divers around?
02:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 53 @ 0.069 = 3.657 BTC [+] {3}
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03:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00079988 = 18.0773 BTC [-] {4}
03:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14660 @ 0.00079892 = 11.7122 BTC [-]
03:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00079892 = 11.3047 BTC [-]
03:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 74 @ 0.03847462 = 2.8471 BTC [-]
03:22 mircea_popescu ah god orange juice
03:23 mircea_popescu such a brilliant invention
03:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 42 @ 0.06847623 = 2.876 BTC [-] {4}
03:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00079892 = 4.1144 BTC [-]
03:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26499 @ 0.00080247 = 21.2647 BTC [+] {2}
03:54 punkman morning
03:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19350 @ 0.00079883 = 15.4574 BTC [-] {2}
04:00 mircea_popescu hey
04:00 mircea_popescu shit it's 5am
04:01 mircea_popescu who the hell is still on origin time after a month in a different timezone i wish to know ?!
04:02 punkman I don't think you were on .ro time even when you were in .ro
04:02 xmj people too lazy to fix their /etc/localtime.
04:03 mircea_popescu punkman hmm this is a point
04:03 mircea_popescu tho i kinda tended to wake 11ish
04:03 mircea_popescu which is what it's now
04:14 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/moar-haxxing-moar-haxxing-have-a-look-an-here-we-go/
04:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00080189 = 2.8066 BTC [+]
04:32 mircea_popescu benkay: the label on this beer can is misaligned by a whole damn .125 << maybe it's so it reads right when you're drunk
04:33 cazalla mircea_popescu: i forgot to add dogecoin creator jackson palmer to the list of .au scammers
04:34 mircea_popescu what is it with you bunch of ex brtish convicts over there!!1
04:34 mircea_popescu benkay: http://api.wordpress.org/secret-key/1.1/ << ok that's fuckign out there.
04:35 mircea_popescu the sp[eed at which they spit the shit out, too.
04:35 mircea_popescu urandom ?
04:37 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: short the world. << "the little bettor that said no"
04:38 mircea_popescu mike_c: how is betting no on everything random? << how isn't it ?
04:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 89 @ 0.01673707 = 1.4896 BTC [-] {8}
04:39 mircea_popescu mthreat: if things go smoothly we'll have a #bitcoin-assets log search engine in a few hours << o hey!
04:40 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: hm, can you connect to 0mq socket? << kako doesn't get enough sex so he's socketed all the things.
04:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 70 @ 0.02206642 = 1.5446 BTC [+] {6}
04:41 mircea_popescu benkay: but !logsearch "foo" is going to be rad, mthreat, kakobrekla << defo, point of entire exercize.
04:41 mircea_popescu mike_c: who understands this: "ISIL stole $400 million in a raid on Mosul's central bank". what, it was stacked in the corner in bills? << yes.
04:41 mircea_popescu ro central bank has about a billion in shit in its central vault for instance.
04:42 mircea_popescu these are precious metals, bearer bonds, various certs and other valuable paper
04:42 mircea_popescu shitty middleeastern banks prolly keep usd/eur bills too
04:44 mircea_popescu mike_c: somebody who is poor knows which truck has the money. i guess you take that guy out back after he drives the truck where it is going. << you fundamentally misunderstand revolutions.
04:44 mircea_popescu nobody's stealing that shit, forget about it.
04:47 mircea_popescu benkay << i can't believe the guy actually proposed an inability to remember wtf he's doing and why as a sort of intellectual manliness.
04:48 mircea_popescu fuck you, if you don't recall why you're here you're red fucking riding hood here to meet the wolf, not a coder writing code.
04:48 mircea_popescu "i am 12 and what is every option that i have explored ???"
04:49 punkman stack trace is great for perspective
04:49 punkman like maybe we need to tell root cause to fuck off
04:49 mircea_popescu right.
04:49 mircea_popescu "I'm compiling a new version of libxml, so I can get the Python parser working. I need to do that because LXML, the Python binding, would crash under heavy load when I used the system default version of libxml. I am using LXML because BeautifulSoup doesn't have support for XPath. I need to do XPath transforms against the input because the legacy system we interact with doesn't send well-formed XML. We tried to get the
04:49 mircea_popescu vendor to fix it but they said 6 to 8 weeks for a patch, and our project deadline is sooner than that. I need to interface with the legacy system because even though the DBAs have ported things over to Oracle, they're still sorting things out and it's not reliable enough for me to make any meaningful progress. Fortunately, I've thought this through and abstracted the data subsystem well enough that I can drop-in repla
04:49 mircea_popescu ce Oracle when it's ready, so long as the database sends some decent form of XML. Once I get this data subsystem done, I can finish the business logic, which attaches to the nonfunctional demo you love so much.
04:49 mircea_popescu sounds pretty fine to me.
04:50 mircea_popescu now, if the manager says something stupid now, like "why the fuck are you going for xpath you hipster, just do the transforms by hand" THEN poerhaps you got problems.
04:50 mircea_popescu but odds are he might as well go "fuck this shit, we're dropping that vendor. standby"
04:51 mircea_popescu if he's any good you get the rest of the day off and tomorrow you can start working on a whole new stack
04:54 mircea_popescu http://devilsadvocate.biz/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/inside-out.gif << ThickAsThieves actually that doesn't look bad
04:55 mircea_popescu mike_c: news flash: bitcoind sucks. << now trace to who wrote the sht in question.
04:57 mircea_popescu Mats_cd03: assets search engine? already exists << no, it doesn't, because google is doing a shit job of indexing each log page, which my experts establish is because bad titling shceme, but rather than fixing that (as proposed about two weeks ago, it's in the logs, SEARCH FOR IT :D) and hjoping google fills in the holes (which experts say it never does once they're in, no matter what happens), a complete solution is m
04:57 mircea_popescu uch preferable, esp as it's offered itself.
04:57 mircea_popescu the point to searching the logs is to get binding negatives more than anything else.
04:59 mircea_popescu benkay: you gotta earn those <<< bwahaha look who's up to date on his reading
05:00 mircea_popescu mike_c: have to get retarded cryptic error message cuz it ran out of memory? << it doesn't know it ran out of memory, obviously.
05:01 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal:holy shit. Tesla was at 30$ last year? << ikr ? inflation!
05:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00079858 = 8.7045 BTC [-]
05:07 mircea_popescu who da fuck is firedrops in the bash, http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=18
05:07 assbot #bitcoin-assets bash
05:07 mircea_popescu i lulz'd.
05:12 mircea_popescu "We found out that by using a little program that Bitcoin uses, which is actually BitPay, we would have received US dollars," Pietro Frigerio, general manager of the dealership, says in the interview. "It's like if you come into the dealership and you want to buy a Lamborghini using gold bars, we would not accept it. So you'd go out, exchange it, and you'd come back to us. That was how it worked [with the Tesla and the
05:12 mircea_popescu Bitcoins]."
05:12 mircea_popescu awww.
05:13 mircea_popescu http://www.autoblog.com/2013/12/09/tesla-model-s-bitcoin-purchase-false/
05:13 assbot Tesla not bought with Bitcoin currency after all? - Autoblog
05:14 mircea_popescu so i guess this is the end of bitpay's business model. getting redditards that hound fiat busiensses to "take bitcoin" to drive your parasitic business model only goes so far.
05:17 mircea_popescu mike_c: diff is mean-spirited asshole. << aye!
05:19 mircea_popescu mike_c: interesting. jurov, you need more WoT :) << that convo with thenewdeal was an eyepopper to me.
05:19 mircea_popescu not saying he's wrong or anything, just wasn't expecting
05:21 mircea_popescu punkman: tweaked bitbet strategy: 10 BTC for 500x 0.02 bets, net gain 3.92 BTC << course this is after you know all the results. ain't rearview mirror the best artefact, second only to the save game wand.
05:21 punkman no, I the strategy doesn't use information it wouldn't have
05:21 mircea_popescu moiety: how can you be wrong wanting to earn your money XD << he was talking to the "picking bets" line
05:22 mircea_popescu punkman I, The Strategy ?
05:22 punkman :P
05:22 mircea_popescu what do you mean, "doesn't use information it wouldn't have" ?
05:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 398 @ 0.06999986 = 27.8599 BTC [+] {3}
05:23 punkman like looking at final odds but betting at 90k weight
05:24 mircea_popescu *: kakobrekla will burn your money for free. << looking at mpif on btcalpha this stands to scrutiny :D
05:24 punkman but yeah of course I don't expect it to hold true for future bets
05:24 mircea_popescu right.
05:24 mircea_popescu so you're not looking at some classes of later info
05:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 201 @ 0.07 = 14.07 BTC [+] {3}
05:26 punkman although bitbet rules I think favor the No strategy, the no double negatives thing
05:26 mircea_popescu mike_c: but even that was better tested. hypothesis was formed before the analysis, not as a result of the analysis. << not to mention independently tested etc. more's ther point, mpif wants unalligned risks, which is 90% of thy that even makes sense
05:26 punkman the hypothesis for no was not made by backtesting
05:27 mircea_popescu punkman if you go by wordcount nos may be ahead, but if you go by the actual measure of things, ie, total BTC bet on no vs yes, yes prolly prevails
05:27 mircea_popescu cause as mike_c says, diff is a mean spirited asshol
05:29 punkman anyway, I just defenestrated wordpress, maybe I can haz blog nao
05:30 mircea_popescu defenestrated = deleted in windows ?
05:31 mircea_popescu motherfucker. every sink in this place is on a different drip period
05:31 punkman lol
05:31 punkman I'm gonna work on a non-retarded strategy, wanna bankroll punkbot perhaps?
05:32 mircea_popescu not at the onset, but if you do well and hanbot sucks maybe i fire her and hire you instead
05:34 FabianB $traded
05:34 empyex FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: F.MPIF S.BBET S.MPOE X.EUR
05:35 mircea_popescu decimation: but even then, "they" are tracking you: http://www.flightradar24.com/how-it-works << tracking a small flying object is no trivial task.
05:35 assbot How it works - Flightradar24.com - Live flight tracker!
05:35 mircea_popescu kinda why missiles are so useful.
05:36 punkman mircea_popescu: no no I need hanbot as a signal :P
05:37 mircea_popescu lol
05:38 mircea_popescu decimation: now, why do you suppose those who work in the bezzle economy are showered with special favors while those who work in the "real economy" are treated as serfs? <<< here's the thing : real estate agents are certified, and have to be bondend in many places, and have to follow best practices, and can and are put to the coals ifthey do not.
05:39 mircea_popescu meanwhile, it monkeys are insulated by law from the ill effects of their bullshit "work"
05:39 mircea_popescu you can't have it both ways.
05:40 mircea_popescu the day three quarters of san francisco loses its homes because of writing bad code, engineers and similarly "skilled" workers can has special irs treatment.
05:42 mircea_popescu ;;rated mthreat
05:42 gribble You rated user mthreat on Fri Jun 6 20:38:37 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: had coffee.
05:42 mircea_popescu ;;rate mthreat 2 Awesome search ; coffee
05:42 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mthreat has changed from 1 to 2.
05:45 ThickAsThieves <+mircea_popescu> http://devilsadvocate.biz/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/inside-out.gif << ThickAsThieves actually that doesn't look bad /// the awkward part is i still have the art, it's in a custom acrylic frame i made with some nuts and bolts. It's this huge 4-foot ugly face me, collecting dust, facing the wall in my garage.
05:46 mircea_popescu notrly that ugly.
05:46 mircea_popescu moar like manly
05:47 mircea_popescu as the romanian expression goes, "men need to be a shade prettier than the devil gurning."
05:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00079875 = 16.2546 BTC [+] {3}
05:48 ThickAsThieves TIL gurning
05:49 mircea_popescu let it not be said -assets is uneducational.
05:50 ThickAsThieves it's just a funny thing about self-portraits, they hang in no one's home
05:50 ThickAsThieves probly a metaphor in there...
05:51 mircea_popescu frida's are a fine exception
05:53 ThickAsThieves confucius say, a self-portrait hangs in no one's home, unless it has a unibrow
05:53 mircea_popescu lol
05:53 mircea_popescu ahahaha
05:54 mircea_popescu she also had a slight moustache
05:54 ThickAsThieves indeed
05:56 ThickAsThieves whoa MPOE broke 80
05:56 ThickAsThieves such milk
05:57 mircea_popescu i thought it was over 80 for a whil
05:57 mircea_popescu e
05:58 mircea_popescu o you mean the other way
05:59 ThickAsThieves yep
05:59 ThickAsThieves lacks drama obv
05:59 ThickAsThieves time to stir the pot
06:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00080022 = 11.2831 BTC [+]
06:01 ThickAsThieves icwutudidthar
06:04 mircea_popescu !up mckmuze
06:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00080082 = 2.963 BTC [+]
06:10 ThickAsThieves ;;bc,stats
06:10 gribble Current Blocks: 306980 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1467 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 2 hours, 31 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15633250005.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.12373
06:12 ThickAsThieves http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/19/5824336/google-s-quantum-computer-just-flunked-its-first-big-test
06:12 assbot Googles quantum computer just flunked its first big test | The Verge
06:13 ThickAsThieves no quantum for you
06:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8532 @ 0.00080082 = 6.8326 BTC [+]
06:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00079902 = 11.8654 BTC [-]
06:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00079902 = 5.3534 BTC [-]
06:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 55 @ 0.06800545 = 3.7403 BTC [-] {8}
06:53 ThickAsThieves Supreme Court rules software patents that cover 'abstract ideas' are invalid
06:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00080045 = 6.7238 BTC [+] {2}
06:54 ThickAsThieves Alice attempted to prove that its patents were more than just an idea by pointing to the specific software steps that it had to carry out. But the court found that these steps weren't ultimately much more than "stating an abstract idea while adding the words 'apply it with a computer.'"
06:55 mircea_popescu myeah.
06:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 98 @ 0.01650002 = 1.617 BTC [-] {5}
07:04 ThickAsThieves Every bitcoin bubble peak has occurred during a new moon, the next new moon is on the June 27th, the SR USMS coin auction is on the 27th, the auction resolves the June 30th, professor bitcorn predicted Bitcoin would be $10 by mid-year.
07:04 ThickAsThieves expect weather!
07:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12068 @ 0.00080194 = 9.6778 BTC [+] {2}
07:14 Namworld Hail? Lightning? Tornadoes? Volcanic ash storm? I like those things.
07:14 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/supplemental-visual-aids-as-well-as-images-pictures-photographs-and-instagrams-y-con-queso/
07:14 Namworld I like my sky ablaze: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/15/article-2539941-1AAF51B500000578-416_964x612.jpg
07:23 mircea_popescu who the fuck is "professor bitcoin"
07:25 punkman *bitcorn
07:26 Namworld By the name the individual selected, I would assume a pretentious moron?
07:26 punkman ;;google professor bitcorn
07:26 gribble Professor Bitcorn Countdown to $10: <http://www.professorbitcorn.com/>; Professor Bitcorn : Bitcoin - Reddit: <http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1whr4i/professor_bitcorn/>; Professor Bitcorn strikes...again : Bitcoin - Reddit: <http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/221vse/professor_bitcorn_strikesagain/>
07:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00080361 = 11.4113 BTC [+]
07:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4876 @ 0.00080361 = 3.9184 BTC [+]
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07:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00080285 = 3.5325 BTC [-]
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08:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00080236 = 7.7829 BTC [-] {2}
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08:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.0007991 = 7.951 BTC [-] {2}
08:39 artifexd I received a package sent to my address but addressed to a Mr. Art I. Fexd
08:39 artifexd My first thought was Fexd is a fucked up last name for my neighbor. I thought that because my neighbor's name is Art.
08:39 artifexd Then... seconds later... OH! LOL!
08:39 ThickAsThieves hehe
08:40 artifexd And thus I report that nubbins` has indeed delivered on the #b-a shirt.
08:41 artifexd ;;rate nubbins` 1 Does, in fact, print t-shirts. And damn nice quality at that.
08:41 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user nubbins` has been recorded.
08:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00079897 = 7.5902 BTC [-] {2}
09:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06968 = 0.5574 BTC [+]
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09:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16399 @ 0.00080124 = 13.1395 BTC [+]
09:30 mthreat <+xmj> any SCUBA divers around? << yep, i do the SCUBA
09:34 nubbins` artifexd :D
09:35 nubbins` my wife, upon seeing the package i was mailing: "that's a fucked up last name"
09:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06968 = 0.6968 BTC [+]
09:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.06968 = 0.9755 BTC [+]
09:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30660 @ 0.00080128 = 24.5672 BTC [+] {2}
09:45 Mats_cd03 rude
09:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23550 @ 0.00079895 = 18.8153 BTC [-]
09:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40400 @ 0.00080364 = 32.4671 BTC [+] {3}
10:04 moiety happy caturday all
10:04 punkman hey moiety
10:05 punkman there's a cat with 4 kittens hiding in my yard
10:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3826 @ 0.00079823 = 3.054 BTC [-] {2}
10:09 moiety aww punkman! i think you should bring them inside.....
10:11 moiety are you near asciilifeform, punkman? he needs a kitten, he just hasn't fully realised it yet
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10:12 xmj mthreat: do you know if PADI Open Water Diver is any good?
10:12 mthreat xmj: that's the one I did.. what do you mean - versus NAUI or what?
10:12 xmj yep
10:13 xmj I'll go with PADI by lack of knowledge and other options, are there any differences?
10:13 xmj Estonia isn't -as- known for SCUBA diving yet :)
10:13 mthreat ya.. I think either one is fine, but I've had no problem with PADI
10:14 mthreat i'm not sure about differences, since I haven't done a NAUI class
10:16 xmj cool
10:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00080395 = 1.0451 BTC [+] {2}
10:21 nubbins` i did an introductory PADI course
10:21 nubbins` fun stuff
10:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06986999 = 0.6987 BTC [+] {2}
10:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8645 @ 0.00079952 = 6.9119 BTC [-]
10:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5724 @ 0.00079952 = 4.5765 BTC [-]
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11:13 decimation mircea_popescu: "the day three quarters of san francisco loses its homes because of writing bad code, engineers and similarly "skilled" workers can has special irs treatment." << that's a really good point. bring back the Hammurabic code for engineers, programmers, bankers, etc.
11:22 decimation although, I don't recall a lawsuit against realtors who "sold" homes to people who couldn't afford them
11:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11017 @ 0.00080257 = 8.8419 BTC [+] {2}
11:28 mircea_popescu !up Pucilowski
11:30 decimation apparently Russia was listening to our conversation about native electronics the other day: http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/736804
11:30 assbot ITAR-TASS: Economy - Russia wants to replace US computer chips with local processors
11:30 mircea_popescu lol wants. question is, can it.
11:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 850 @ 0.00080471 = 0.684 BTC [+]
11:33 decimation apparently there is "progress" in the winklevoss etf http://www.nasdaq.com/article/bitcoin-etf-inching-closer-to-reality-cm358963
11:33 assbot Bitcoin ETF Inching Closer To Reality - NASDAQ.com
11:34 decimation I'm not sure if the sec filing has been linked here http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312514190365/d721187ds1a.htm
11:34 mircea_popescu btw, did the derpage foundation have any comment as to ubuntu dropping bitcoin from 14.04?
11:34 mircea_popescu or is that not the sort of thing they do.
11:40 decimation " Using an exponential moving average and volume weighting of transaction data, Winkdex is derived from the transaction prices on electronic market places where exchange participants may first use fiat currency to trade, buy and sell bitcoins based on bid-ask trading (?Bitcoin Exchange?). "
11:41 mthreat Behold, http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/
11:41 assbot #bitcoin-assets search
11:42 mircea_popescu mthreat lettuce see.
11:42 mircea_popescu http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=urmom
11:42 assbot urmom
11:42 decimation that's really fast
11:43 mircea_popescu mthreat you telling me under pain of per-jury that there's a page and a half of instances ands that's all ?
11:43 mircea_popescu also how are they sorted ?
11:44 decimation yeah, 'sort by date' would be useful
11:44 mthreat right now they are ranked by TF*IDF (text relevance, based on term matches)
11:44 mthreat like google, without the pagerank
11:44 mircea_popescu add history as an optional i say
11:44 mthreat ok, sort by date is easy
11:44 mircea_popescu often we remember one exact word, and a timerange
11:45 mthreat history?
11:47 decimation well, even in this state it's 100x better than google
11:48 punkman mthreat, nice, what's it using behind the scenes?
11:48 mthreat searchify.com hosted search
11:48 mircea_popescu http://pastebin.com/wwAvQZy9 << tha's my list
11:48 assbot Sep 11 21:36:04 <mircea_popescu>no fambly just urmom. Sep 11 23:49:19 <mircea_ - Pastebin.com
11:48 mircea_popescu does it match ?
11:48 mircea_popescu mthreat history, as in, list them by reverse-date
11:49 mircea_popescu decimation agreed.
11:49 mthreat well "urmomtc" won't match urmom (the stemmer isn't THAT smart)
11:49 mthreat but urmom* will match
11:50 mircea_popescu * matches alphanum only?
11:50 mircea_popescu or all nonspace ?
11:50 mthreat foo* is a prefix search, matches any word beginning with "foo"
11:50 mircea_popescu word in unix sense of the term ?
11:50 mircea_popescu (is mircea_popescu a word or innit)
11:51 mthreat I think mircea_popescu gets tokenized into "mircea" "popescu"
11:51 mircea_popescu aha
11:51 mircea_popescu http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=urmom&gazelle
11:51 assbot urmom
11:52 mircea_popescu that didn't actually work as expected. how'd i make it return lines with both words ?
11:52 mircea_popescu woot AND
11:52 mthreat urmom gazelle
11:52 mircea_popescu http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=urmom+AND+gazelle
11:52 assbot urmom AND gazelle
11:52 mthreat just enter both words
11:52 mthreat AND is default
11:52 mthreat OR is possible: urmom OR ordad
11:53 mircea_popescu Matches for urmom OR gazelle, 29 total results http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=urmom+OR+gazelle kinmda funny
11:53 assbot urmom OR gazelle
11:53 mircea_popescu this thing is blazing fast, i am impresst!
11:53 mthreat the magic of inverted indexes
11:53 mircea_popescu your name shall live forever in the pantheon of really evil mean spirited rich people
11:58 moiety mobile broadband truly sucks
11:58 mircea_popescu wb
11:59 moiety thank you :]
11:59 moiety on two counts actually because if not for you, i wouldn't be getting normal broadband :D
11:59 mircea_popescu uh ?!
12:00 nubbins` aw, bless
12:00 moiety i wouldn't have had funds for it
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.75339676 BTC to 9`388 shares, 18677 satoshi per share
12:00 mthreat argentina vs. iran game just started
12:01 mircea_popescu lol
12:01 mircea_popescu if iran kicks them out...
12:01 mircea_popescu prolly the start of argentina's nuclear arms programme
12:03 * moiety wonders if the street arse-shaking parades will continue after the world cup
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 11.09076650 BTC to 29`438 shares, 37675 satoshi per share
12:04 mircea_popescu there's no parades atm ?
12:06 moiety o i thought there were, maybe everyones inside watching
12:06 mircea_popescu kinda ya
12:07 mircea_popescu besides, they count this rather mild 10ish degrees weather as vERY COLd
12:07 nubbins` i have a relative who lives in brazil, he said one time it plunged to 9C overnight and homeless people died from exposure :0
12:09 mircea_popescu o.O
12:09 mircea_popescu and meanwhile you wereall "dude i WISH it were 9, i'd take the girls out to the nude beach"
12:09 nubbins` there's a very narrow range of acceptable temperatures here
12:10 mircea_popescu new foundland and labrador nude beach : "the only fur here is on your dog"
12:10 nubbins` 18-22 is "nice"
12:10 nubbins` above or below is too hot/cold
12:10 nubbins` although that's generally more of an indication of our tendency to complain than anything else
12:10 mircea_popescu kinda how it is everywhere neh ?
12:10 mthreat in the bahamas once, the local girl was shivering when it was 21 degrees C
12:13 nubbins` too bad canada doesn't have an island in the caribbean
12:13 nubbins` i feel so left out
12:13 mircea_popescu !up Cosmos
12:14 Cosmos thanks ;p
12:14 mircea_popescu what, canada is a colonial power now ?!
12:14 Cosmos is bitbet here?
12:14 mircea_popescu Cosmos hey there. and who might you be ?
12:14 mircea_popescu yes, bitbet is here, if you want to say nice things about it.
12:14 mircea_popescu if not, kakobrekla's not up yet.
12:14 Cosmos I am Carl Sagan, resurrected last week, very fresh ;))
12:15 mircea_popescu name sounds familiar...
12:15 Cosmos so are you a co-owner or employee of bitbet
12:16 Cosmos cuz I was looking to msg one of them
12:16 Cosmos I might just have to email 'em lol
12:17 mircea_popescu im a co owner.
12:17 Cosmos that's interesting
12:21 Cosmos https://www.bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=657583
12:21 assbot ~A Landscape of Crypto~
12:21 Cosmos yea! xD
12:21 Cosmos such services, very vast
12:22 Cosmos I can also still send the email at info@bb...us if you want
12:23 mircea_popescu so you're looking for info on bitbet for your tardstalk post or what was it ?
12:24 nubbins` strange
12:25 Cosmos lol
12:25 Cosmos no, i'm looking for tips
12:25 Cosmos from having assembled & tested the info, written review, & freely advertised the sites
12:26 Cosmos I've gotten some from 2 sites so far
12:26 mircea_popescu well, ok, here's a tip : you've found the place where bitcoin actually happens. if you spend your next year reading the logs (they're in the topic) you'll be better off than if you spend your year doing anything else.
12:26 mircea_popescu also, since you seem linguistically inclined, fluffypony was hiring someone to do summarization of same logs.
12:26 mircea_popescu it may be he has a further job for an eager but diligent young man
12:27 Cosmos you have my ears
12:27 Cosmos and by tip I meant mostly actual BTC sent to me, but you figured that out ;))
12:28 mircea_popescu how old are you btw ?
12:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48300 @ 0.00080149 = 38.712 BTC [-] {3}
12:29 Cosmos 79
12:29 nubbins` lel
12:29 nubbins` looking for tips :0
12:29 Cosmos I was born as Carl E. Sagan in Nov 9, 1934
12:29 mircea_popescu btw, speaking of the derp foundation : did it yet get around to pointing out that people who had stopped updating bitcoin pre 8.0 were invulnerable to heartbleed, whereas people who hadn't stopped updating lost all their key material in the interval ?
12:30 mircea_popescu preferably in the terms of, "anyone who didn't obey mp blindly on the score got raped, sorry, insert quarter to play again" ?
12:31 Cosmos @ nubbins yea man, I've done free work, if site owners like it, they can donate/reward for it, pretty straightforward ;))))
12:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.0687 = 2.1984 BTC [-] {2}
12:33 mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats
12:33 gribble Current Blocks: 307042 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1405 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 10 hours, 24 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16070092412.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 19.36859
12:34 mircea_popescu 16mn o.O
12:34 Cosmos ohhh gribble
12:34 mircea_popescu bitch just won't let go.
12:34 Cosmos I heard he was a god
12:34 BingoBoingo Fucking hashpower
12:34 BingoBoingo ;;ident Cosmos
12:34 gribble Nick 'Cosmos', with hostmask 'Cosmos!6b81228a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.129.34.138', is not identified.
12:34 mircea_popescu kakobrekla btw we absoleetly need mthreat's thing piped in assbot
12:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.0687 = 1.9923 BTC [-]
12:34 nubbins` gribs is making a grab for the SR coins
12:34 nubbins` so he can live forever
12:35 mircea_popescu i dun see him dieing tbh.
12:35 BingoBoingo ;;google carl sagan public key
12:35 gribble Carl Sagan: 'Science Is a Way of Thinking' - Science Friday: <http://www.sciencefriday.com/segment/12/27/2013/carl-sagan-science-is-a-way-of-thinking.html>; Carl Sagan Collection - CSI: <http://www.csicop.org/specialcollections/show/carl_sagan_collection>; Carl Sagan and the Cosmos Legacy | National Geographic Channel: <http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/cosmos-a (1 more message)
12:36 Apocalyptic Cosmos, what work have you exactly done, excluding the mere fact of putting variably relevant links to bitcoin-related services together in a huge list ?
12:36 nubbins` ^
12:36 nubbins` that's about the sum of it
12:36 mircea_popescu he's new, give him a break.
12:36 nubbins` he also formatted some of the links by length
12:36 Cosmos also
12:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00080023 = 10.1229 BTC [-] {2}
12:36 Cosmos I made reviews
12:37 BingoBoingo Cosmos: I've had great results with the Bitbet referral links, you can ask jurov for more info
12:37 mircea_popescu Cosmos you understand the basic idea that the value of a review strictly rests with the known facts of the reviewer,
12:37 mircea_popescu for which reason reviews by anon entities are not worth reading ?
12:37 Cosmos if you scroll down, you see them, for mining share trading sites, for bet sites, and passive investing/ponzi
12:37 mircea_popescu people read taki's column for him being taki and so on.
12:37 Cosmos Hmmm
12:38 Cosmos anyway the ppl who put websites in their sig's in forums..get paid by said websites....... for the free publicity/exposure......
12:38 Cosmos those people are almost all anon...
12:38 Cosmos and w/ relatively low / obscure unknown rep, too
12:38 mircea_popescu sure. my girl paid people once in the same way.
12:38 Cosmos excluding the 'personalities' and hero members etc
12:38 nubbins` "paid" is almost not the right word
12:39 Cosmos that's why I called it 'tipping'
12:39 nubbins` someone tosses you a couple of pennies, you don't call it a paycheque
12:39 Cosmos just as a token of appreciation
12:39 BingoBoingo I think you misunderstand the root of tipping.
12:40 BingoBoingo The word tip cleanly refers to a bribe of sorts... To Insure Prompt service.
12:40 nubbins` BingoBoingo: you mean tipping isn't when you give someone money because you pity them for wasting everyone's time?
12:41 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Well, tipping is a present you give somone you pity to save you from inconvenience
12:41 Cosmos LOL
12:41 Cosmos well I'll take your 'looking-down-on' & accept it gladly in my wallet address
12:41 BingoBoingo It's why you tip the porter and the concierge
12:41 Cosmos Cuz then
12:42 Cosmos I'll send it to MintPal
12:42 Cosmos buy XC at 120
12:42 BingoBoingo Cosmos: Seriously get of the forums and start a blog
12:42 Cosmos and sell it right back at 125
12:42 BingoBoingo %book
12:42 atcbot 50k@240 16k@235 2k@222 | 750k@175 50k@161 216k@160
12:42 Cosmos rinse/repeat to gribble-legendary levels of wealth
12:42 mircea_popescu ;;google "BTC doesn't care about the SEC. MPEx rules!"
12:42 gribble The reasons why Bitcoin securities can't be regulated by the SEC ...: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=116835.20>; SEC Charges Bitcoin Entrepreneur With Offering Unregistered ...: <http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/277hny/sec_charges_bitcoin_entrepreneur_with_offering/>; The crime of being American pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/the- (1 more message)
12:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 83 @ 0.0687 = 5.7021 BTC [-] {2}
12:42 mircea_popescu incredible how much gribble sux.
12:43 nubbins` ;;echo not as bad as $randnick
12:43 gribble not as bad as Mats_cd03
12:43 Cosmos Yea of course I thought of that, but the problem w/ blogs is, they are steeped in this culture/reputation of self-importance & personal author's life drama sht
12:43 mircea_popescu anyway, something like https://bitcointa.lk/threads/lets-have-a-little-fun-then-shall-we.69076/ did you mean, cosmos ?
12:43 assbot Let's have a little fun then, shall we. | Bitcointa.lk
12:43 nubbins` heh.
12:43 BingoBoingo Cosmos: "No social features except for official FreeNode IRC Chat." << Bitbet totally has comments
12:44 mircea_popescu !up Cosmos
12:44 BingoBoingo !up Cosmos
12:44 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo> The word tip cleanly refers to a bribe of sorts... To Insure Prompt service. << nah, i disagree.
12:44 mircea_popescu tips are actually constructive.
12:44 BingoBoingo Bribes are constructive too
12:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00080259 = 9.8317 BTC [+]
12:44 BingoBoingo Useful
12:44 nubbins` bribes are destructive
12:45 Cosmos https://bitcointa.lk/threads/lets-have-a-little-fun-then-shall-we.69076/ = yep, i just might
12:45 assbot Let's have a little fun then, shall we. | Bitcointa.lk
12:45 mircea_popescu not really. bribes are the final example of the disaster of commons
12:45 mircea_popescu the prototype of the bribe is the cut the fence gives to the thief.
12:45 Cosmos ok its a donation, not a bribe
12:45 Cosmos you donate because I will change the world for good
12:45 mircea_popescu whereas tips fall squarely in the charity thing
12:45 nubbins` you tip someone, you'll get above-average service. you bribe someone, you'll get standard rather than sub-par
12:45 Cosmos I do not think I personally deserve much (ego) therefore I am near-incorruptible
12:46 mircea_popescu <nubbins`> ;;echo not as bad as $randnick << shit i meant google not gribble.
12:46 nubbins` :D
12:46 nubbins` was gonna say
12:46 Cosmos Given power, I will try my best to give as many deserving people as possible, better opportunities for improving their lives
12:46 mircea_popescu Cosmos do you spend a lot of time on reddit?
12:46 nubbins` GIVEN POWER
12:46 Cosmos Not yet lol
12:46 mircea_popescu nubbins` ya srsly.
12:46 Cosmos See, weak people are afraid of power
12:46 nubbins` create-your-own-protip
12:46 Cosmos Because they know too well, it would corrupt them even more, very quickly
12:47 mircea_popescu power is taken, not given, little grashopper. and your humble nonsense makes you both the most dangerous and the least likely to succeed character.
12:47 nubbins` ^
12:47 Cosmos The strong don't fear power, those with true integrity, like Buddha, and Gandhi
12:47 nubbins` i think we have an Achiever
12:47 mircea_popescu the two have nothing in common except for western ignorance.
12:47 mircea_popescu also, your culture is lacking. do you know ghandi used to sleep with his underage niece ?
12:47 Cosmos ahh you use 'Western'! my gf wants to slap me everytime i use that word, she identifies with it too much
12:48 Cosmos That's fine
12:48 Cosmos As long as she was mature for her age & was consenting
12:48 mircea_popescu drove people up the wall at the time.
12:48 mircea_popescu she was not, either.
12:48 mircea_popescu and they were naked.
12:48 Cosmos Oh really
12:48 mircea_popescu yes really.
12:48 Cosmos I thought they'd be dressed
12:48 mircea_popescu ghandi didn't like to do laundry
12:48 mircea_popescu so he mostly didn't dress.
12:48 nubbins` who does?!
12:48 Cosmos Btw almost everytime I talk, I'm half-trolling, but I always mean well
12:49 nubbins` see, that'd be a good cover story for dov charney, if it weren't for the fact that he was strolling around a clothing factory naked ;(
12:49 Cosmos I'm antimalicious, & brilliant, & responsible, that's why donating to me is so constructive
12:49 mircea_popescu yes i get it, you were kidding after the fact, like that xfg or w/e his name was.
12:49 mircea_popescu the avatars of youth.
12:50 nubbins` if you're so brilliant, why are you spending your time writing website summaries and bumming for spare change?
12:50 BingoBoingo %ticker
12:50 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 222 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A
12:50 Cosmos I'm acutely aware of how appearing as a newbie & suddenly talking big about myself & donations & work etc makes me look at first glance, which is why I'm playing it up w/ it massively, for mutual entertainment
12:50 * nubbins` facepalms
12:50 mircea_popescu oic.
12:50 mircea_popescu this is like Game taken meta.
12:50 nubbins` mmhmm
12:51 nubbins` did anyone win the chess tourney after?
12:51 mircea_popescu nubbins` shut up and drool out of your hole biatch :D
12:51 nubbins` too cool to drool
12:51 mircea_popescu omfg
12:51 mircea_popescu that line is just too good. consider it stoled.
12:51 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1NPWF36.txt )
12:51 BingoBoingo !b 4
12:51 nubbins` mp's first tattoo
12:52 mircea_popescu no, but ima lay it on all the frigid uruguayan chix
12:52 Cosmos It's the psychology of 'return the favor' - when wanting something, ask/suggest being given a minute fraction of it, to make the other party comfortable about your humility and more likely to actually give the whole amount you ulteriorly desired in the first place
12:52 nubbins` i don't think it rhymes in spanish ;(
12:52 mircea_popescu it's... "cold" here, you see.
12:52 nubbins` fun fact, peruvians call their tongue "castellano" as well
12:52 mircea_popescu nubbins` so lettem learn english
12:52 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Fell apart. If attempted would require something roughly resembling a schedule
12:53 mircea_popescu nubbins` yeah apparently it's all of the west of south america + central
12:53 mircea_popescu Cosmos does it work ?
12:53 Cosmos is there any cryptorelated IRC channel
12:53 Cosmos w/ more activity & wit than this here
12:53 Cosmos I have been -looking- for this for a while
12:53 mircea_popescu prolly not with more activity, but you could go ask in bitcoin-dev
12:54 nubbins` heh
12:54 Cosmos #bitcoin itself is ghost town, hundreds too scared to talk/troll
12:54 mircea_popescu nubbins` what, im taking the mutual entertainment bit seriously.
12:54 Cosmos it does work, mircea
12:54 Cosmos I've had 2 ppl send me more than I suggested
12:54 nubbins` no kidding :D
12:54 Cosmos b/c I had been so humble
12:54 nubbins` dude, you'll never believe what happened yesterday
12:55 nubbins` i asked some guy for five bucks and he sucked my cock instead
12:55 mircea_popescu Cosmos do they have confirmation bias where you go to school ?
12:55 moiety the crypto ones are usually pretty dead and you won't find more wit than here
12:55 Cosmos lol you think I'm under 21
12:55 Cosmos the school implication
12:55 mircea_popescu nubbins` i asked some chick for milanesa con queso and she fucked me instead.
12:55 nubbins` we easily forget that 25 is the new 15
12:55 mircea_popescu and all i wanted was a damned cheese steak
12:55 mircea_popescu but she liked my humble manner
12:55 mthreat damn you passed on the milanesa
12:56 mircea_popescu mthreat nah, i buy them at the butcher's.
12:56 nubbins` coño con queso
12:56 Cosmos good thing @ 1986 i'm quite beyond both, actually sad thing in fact, years never return ;p
12:56 mthreat ew
12:56 nubbins` :D
12:56 mircea_popescu mthreat it could be danish...
12:56 mircea_popescu give it a wild, tangy aftertaste
12:56 nubbins` Cosmos: so you're 28 years old and writing website summaries for tips? :(
12:56 mthreat sin gas, por favor
12:56 nubbins` jesus
12:56 Cosmos help me then
12:56 nubbins` agua con gaz is fuckin gross
12:57 moiety it's all about presentation ;P
12:57 mircea_popescu cono sin gas y queso
12:57 mircea_popescu Cosmos you ever saw "a man for all seasons" ?
12:57 Cosmos and no, I'm a trader
12:57 Cosmos @mircea no
12:57 nubbins` my sides
12:57 BingoBoingo Cosmos: Are you familiar with Altcoin?
12:57 Cosmos The forum crap I just did for like
12:57 BingoBoingo %diff
12:57 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 442680.02 in 281 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -38.12
12:57 mircea_popescu nubbins` you know the quote i had in mind ?
12:57 Cosmos to see how much fame i'd get
12:57 nubbins` FOR LIKE A COOL JOKE LELEL
12:58 nubbins` mp haven't seen it :(
12:58 Cosmos i only got 220 total views in 2 threads
12:58 Cosmos so its been barely helpful to anyone
12:58 nubbins` Cosmos, you sound really lame :(
12:58 Cosmos oh well
12:58 nubbins` sorry for your loss
12:58 Cosmos gotta video it up on youtube if you rly want views
12:58 Cosmos now THAT would take my time
12:59 nubbins` maybe it's not how much time you spend
12:59 Cosmos ..away from profitable daytrading
12:59 ThickAsThieves nubbins` do you have any comments on Titan Bitcoin?
12:59 nubbins` tat, sorry, got your message. gold ones look cool but i don't really keep up with them
12:59 ThickAsThieves word, i'ma do a review
12:59 nubbins` i know michail1 and maybe Blazedout419 are into them
12:59 Cosmos @boingo Let me answer your query with this :
12:59 Cosmos ~ E N C Y C L O P E D I C A L T C O I N S D A T A B A S E ~ * = Virtual CryptoCurrencies marked w/ "*" symbol are not currently listed on Cryptsy/MintPal's BTC-/LTC-Denominated Markets at the moment, & are thus pending larger-scale community adoption. ꜝ = This symbol denotes that the name or acronym entered for the CryptoCurrency in question is merely a personally-preferred colloquial term, and not the actual ter
12:59 Cosmos lol text max reached
13:00 Cosmos let's try this part
13:00 Cosmos +[BET] BetaCoin T0 +[ANC] AnonCoin T4 +[BUK] CryptoBuck T2 +[CAP] BottleCap T1 +[CRC] CraftCoin T1 +[CLR] CopperLark T1 +[CGB] Cryptogenicꜝ T3 +[CMC] CosmoCoinꜝ T1 +[COMM] CommunityCoin T° +[UNB] UnbreakableCoin T1 +[LGD] LegendaryCoin T1 +[NAUT] NautilusCoin T2 +[EMC2] Einsteinium T° +[FLT] FlutterCoin T0 +[EXE] EXECoin T1 +[DEM] e-Mark T0 +[FST] FastCoin T0 +[EZC] EZCoin T0 +[IXC] IXCoin T2 +[NBL] Nibble T1 +[WC] Whit
13:00 nubbins` fuck off
13:00 Cosmos lol
13:00 Cosmos sry
13:00 mircea_popescu nubbins` http://pastebin.com/dyVep8eq
13:00 assbot RICH (Voice cracking) You look at me as though I were an enemy! MORE (Pu - Pastebin.com
13:00 ThickAsThieves where am i?
13:00 mircea_popescu and after thatthey go into http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDBiLT3LASk
13:00 assbot A Man for All Seasons - The Devil Speech - YouTube
13:01 nubbins` hmm, i'm gonna add this to my list
13:01 mircea_popescu not a bad move.
13:01 mircea_popescu Cosmos this is like the 3rd thing you completely missed :)
13:02 mircea_popescu he was asking you about altcoin, not about all that other crap.
13:02 Cosmos the alt called altcoin itself?
13:02 Cosmos yea its in my list
13:02 mircea_popescu yea
13:02 Cosmos lol, its quite meta-sounding
13:02 mircea_popescu nubbins` http://projectplatypus.pbworks.com/w/page/19140696/A%20Man%20for%20All%20Seasons << actually there's script iyc
13:02 assbot projectplatypus / A Man for All Seasons
13:02 Cosmos didnt read about it
13:02 Cosmos anyway, so you're claiming to be MPex CEO heh
13:03 Cosmos I knew I'd seen that name somwhere else b4..
13:03 * nubbins` finds a comfortable chair
13:03 Cosmos i mean, that you in this IRC, is the actual Mircea, thats super-googleable personality, you know
13:03 mircea_popescu Cosmos im not claiming. im actually authed.
13:03 Cosmos I'm inclined to believe so
13:03 mircea_popescu ;;ident mircea_popescu
13:03 gribble Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
13:04 Cosmos Nice
13:04 Cosmos Now you just proved you have a nontrivial amount of ego
13:04 moiety You really should be getting yourself authed too
13:04 BingoBoingo Cosmos: The best altcoin is Altcoin (SHA-256 and not the heretic OMGWTFBBQHASH!!!)
13:04 Cosmos That means you couldn't be given tons of power
13:04 nubbins` "just" proved :D
13:04 mircea_popescu nontrivial amt of ego ?
13:05 mircea_popescu bitch please. i made that shit work.
13:05 Cosmos Just teasing ya
13:05 mircea_popescu i am the master of the ego.
13:05 mircea_popescu and yeah, lol, i couldn't be GIVEN tons of power.
13:05 mircea_popescu not anymore anyway.
13:05 Cosmos I have no clue about technical things
13:05 BingoBoingo http://therealaltcoin.org/
13:05 assbot The Real Altcoin (ATC) - Never mine another altcoin again.
13:05 Cosmos I'm a finance & philosophy type
13:05 mircea_popescu Cosmos so what did you study then ?
13:06 nubbins` german film
13:06 Cosmos I quit school after failing biology
13:06 Cosmos got into porn w/ nubbins' mom
13:06 mircea_popescu in philosophy ?
13:06 Cosmos & then, started trading
13:06 gribble Error: "then," is not a valid command.
13:06 mircea_popescu lol
13:06 assbot Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3YASEQP.txt )
13:06 mircea_popescu !b 8
13:06 Cosmos <3
13:06 mircea_popescu or w/e, mod can sort it out, whole convo's a bashfest
13:06 nubbins` winning hearts & minds
13:06 Cosmos Indeed, the 4chan way
13:07 mircea_popescu Cosmos what exactly did you fail in biology ?
13:07 nubbins` isn't it funny how everyone on irc is a "trader" and they all make money
13:07 nubbins` what a coincidence
13:07 Cosmos I had a fundamental passion for biotech, anatomy, biophysics, human enhancement
13:08 mircea_popescu nubbins` im making the losses to cover for all of em
13:08 Cosmos and still do of course
13:08 mircea_popescu it's only fair, as i can afford it.
13:08 nubbins` :D
13:08 nubbins` a true hero
13:08 mircea_popescu Cosmos but specifically, what'd you fail ?
13:08 Cosmos And so, I mistakenly believed that my passion, which was, 'on paper' kinda
13:08 Cosmos would automatically translate, to technical facility
13:08 mircea_popescu like, "and then they asked me to describe the atp cycle and fuck i had no idea"
13:08 Cosmos with lab work, etc
13:08 Cosmos and it wasn't the case at all
13:08 Cosmos I found out, I can't stand all this tedious experimenting & reporting & lab work man
13:08 nubbins` i think he failed at applying to post-secondary
13:08 mircea_popescu so you're intellectually lazy and prefer to dream shit up rather than do anything.
13:08 Cosmos I'm supposed to be the boss
13:09 Cosmos leading the scientist team
13:09 Cosmos so I went into trading
13:09 mircea_popescu that's the only reasonable path.
13:09 nubbins` SO I WENT INTO TRADING
13:09 Cosmos to be able, like Elon Musk the Great, to fund all these things
13:09 mircea_popescu right.
13:09 moiety so, you found your passion tedious?
13:09 nubbins` moiety :D
13:09 Cosmos yea nubbins, I've lost 13k in last 8 years learning the hard way, how to trade
13:09 mircea_popescu maybe learning isn't the right word.
13:09 punkman who has time for passion anyway, gotta watch tv
13:09 Apocalyptic no, he just found out shit actually requires work
13:10 * asciilifeform apprenticed to biologist in school. decided he doesn't like doing identical experiment 1,000 times.
13:10 mircea_popescu moiety should i ask you how oft were you the unwitting girlfriend of such greatness or better hold my peace ?
13:10 * nubbins` did three years of comp eng. decided he didn't like oscilloscopes :(
13:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you're lucky you weren't into art.
13:10 Cosmos rofl
13:10 Cosmos tv
13:11 Cosmos now you rly talk of the epitome of intellectual laze
13:11 moiety sorry, i don't follow mircea_popescu
13:11 nubbins` heard someone pronounce it "eppa-tome" recently
13:11 asciilifeform ;;google datskovskiy telomerase
13:11 gribble Induction of Telomerase Activity During Development of Human ...: <http://www.jimmunol.org/content/166/11/6647.full>
13:11 Cosmos tv represents the Western garbage, the consumerism, the ads, the complacency, the mainstream conformism
13:11 asciilifeform ^ i'm but a footnote.
13:11 mircea_popescu moiety guy "falls in love", tells girl, she believes him, two years later he grows tired of the tediousness of it.
13:12 mircea_popescu heartbreak results, in the lucky circumstances where the girl didn't go invest 9 months into the theory.
13:12 Cosmos tv is the champion of average, excused mediocrity, the scourge of original thought & achievement
13:12 mircea_popescu Cosmos is this a flatfile somehwere you're quoting ?
13:12 Cosmos no thats the most awesome thing
13:13 Cosmos I have a billion 'flatfile' notes as you say, recorded in HDD, but this I just pulled out of my brain
13:13 punkman amazing markov
13:13 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
13:13 mircea_popescu so you've slowly become one ?!
13:13 Cosmos surprise myself sometimes (remember I am humble)
13:13 mircea_popescu punkman did you write this and are nao trolling me ?
13:13 punkman shhh don't ruin it
13:13 Cosmos I find it amazing now that I think about it
13:13 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
13:14 Cosmos that a CEO
13:14 Cosmos w/ many projects & tons of wealth
13:14 mircea_popescu i live in fear of this, btw, one of these days one of you assholes is going to script the noob and then i'll have to close down the whole operation ;/
13:14 Cosmos + a well-known cryptoblog
13:14 Cosmos is here in IRC
13:14 Cosmos gracing us w/ his wisdom
13:14 mircea_popescu Cosmos innit.
13:14 nubbins` leave it
13:14 mircea_popescu lol assbot
13:14 nubbins` ;;echo tyvm assbot
13:14 gribble tyvm assbot
13:14 BingoBoingo !up assbot
13:15 BingoBoingo !up Cosmos
13:15 mircea_popescu well it was fun while it lasted.
13:15 mircea_popescu ;;echo !up bingoboingo
13:15 gribble !up bingoboingo
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13:15 BingoBoingo !b 658
13:15 moiety ahh, never apparently. At the end, I was told there wasn't the initial "falling in love"... i was a convenient wallet/housekeeper/etc mircea_popescu
13:15 Cosmos [13:14] <+Cosmos> [..] ..is here in IRC, [..] gracing us w/ his wisdom, ..his $1k/hr time..
13:15 mircea_popescu i've never loved baba gnoush as much as i do here. i'm up for it brakfast lunch and dinner, it's crazy. these folkjs eat nothing but meat.
13:15 * moiety awaits the deserved "mug" forehead tattoo
13:16 mircea_popescu moiety i think they just do phone number footsole tattoos now
13:16 mircea_popescu so interested bystanders can just get the number
13:16 Cosmos So I should like, make an acct on btc-assets to be perma-voiced here or just seduce mircea or what
13:16 mircea_popescu you should seduce nubbins`
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13:17 BingoBoingo !b 2
13:17 Cosmos that's a mathematical impossibility, i'm afraid
13:17 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagkBedzwI8
13:17 assbot Hopes deleted. - YouTube
13:17 Cosmos even gribb hates me it appears
13:18 BingoBoingo ;;echo !down Cosmos
13:18 gribble !down Cosmos
13:19 Cosmos does that work
13:19 BingoBoingo So... It's looking like Argentina might start that nuclear program
13:19 BingoBoingo !down Cosmos
13:19 BingoBoingo !up Cosmos yes
13:19 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo they lost ?!
13:19 moiety Cosmos: indeed it does. http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets heres a step by step.
13:19 assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]
13:19 Cosmos asked cuz it didnt the first time
13:19 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Still tied 60 minutes in
13:20 BingoBoingo !down Cosmos
13:20 mircea_popescu ok so this just in
13:20 mircea_popescu corrientes, which is a major avenue, is COVERED in swat vans, fire trucks, miles of it from the center.
13:20 mircea_popescu nobody is there.
13:20 mircea_popescu nobody is in the shops, just the tvs going
13:21 mircea_popescu i think these are countermeasures in case they lose ?
13:21 nubbins` hahah
13:21 nubbins` welcome to s.a.
13:21 BingoBoingo Probably
13:21 BingoBoingo !up Cosmos
13:21 moiety cosmos, you may note the difference in commands.. the first included an echo
13:22 Cosmos Maybe I won't register after all, my great hopes for this chan getting non-negligibly crushed the minute I saw traditional sports talk
13:22 mircea_popescu people that follow sports can't be given a ton of power either ?
13:22 BingoBoingo ;;google site:thedrinkingrecord.com baseball
13:22 gribble Baseball | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/category/baseball/>; An Overview of Betable Sports Part 1: Baseball | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/03/12/an-overview-of-betable-sports-part-1-baseball/>; Real Baseball and "Sportsmanship" | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/18/real-baseball-and-sportsmanship/>
13:22 moiety excuse us while we don't weep for the loss of your great hopes
13:23 Cosmos ppl will see the 'echo' note, and immediate echo by gribble or whoever, so... the troll from it won't work..? dunno what other reason they'd echo for lol
13:23 mircea_popescu lol rawr
13:23 * moiety hasn't even linked a manul yet
13:23 BingoBoingo ;;echo ;;google WTF?
13:23 gribble ;;google WTF?
13:23 BingoBoingo OMG Gribble can't command itself!
13:24 Cosmos I wonder if mod6 is omega6 (i know him(
13:24 BingoBoingo ;;8ball
13:24 gribble No chance.
13:24 Cosmos anyway, pleased to have met you guys
13:24 Cosmos I know it's not reciprocal
13:25 Cosmos with good reason hee hee
13:25 moiety ;;google define echo
13:25 gribble Echo | Define Echo at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/echo>; Echo - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/echo>; Echo - definition of Echo by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Echo>
13:25 mircea_popescu echo is the girl that loved narcis
13:25 Cosmos but why would bingo use the command if it doesnt do anything other than make gribble speak
13:26 moiety Cosmos: like i said, it's all about presentation
13:26 Cosmos it won't fool anyone lol
13:26 mircea_popescu like all the big cats, bb likes to play
13:26 BingoBoingo Cosmos: Who said I do things for reasons
13:26 Cosmos makes sense
13:27 Cosmos is this community altcoin haters or lovers
13:27 Cosmos like, there's this huge, funny rivalry
13:27 BingoBoingo Altcoin lovers, altcoin haters
13:27 Cosmos 2 widely-chasm'd camps, hating each other
13:27 Cosmos it's heresy to talk of BTC in cryptocointalk, for instance. heresy to spend more than a couple words about alts, (they're all 'shtcoins') in bitcointalk, for instance
13:28 moiety does any original like it's rip-offs?
13:28 xmj benkay: around?
13:28 BingoBoingo Argentin and Iran still tied.
13:29 Cosmos yea they're just rip-offs cept for those that don't use btc tech at all..but, some still have good, relevant, unique applications, and quite a few have presented astronomical % gain opportunities, just cashout to BTC b4 the dump and keep multiplying it.......
13:31 mircea_popescu <Cosmos> [13:14] <+Cosmos> [..] ..is here in IRC, [..] gracing us w/ his wisdom, ..his $1k/hr time.. << some people are modest.
13:31 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re: 'haxxing' article - if you want something other than lamers for the butterfly collection, cut apart those dead mobos & disks, rather than read server logs
13:32 mircea_popescu i don't have a shop here
13:32 mircea_popescu but they're in cold storage.
13:32 moiety and yet still would not exist had there been no preceeding bitcoin Cosmos
13:33 mircea_popescu maybe im the one that least hates alts
13:33 Cosmos @mircea No, that was after bingo muted me randomly, so I copied the stuff I'd pasted afterwards, that didnt appear here, this whole statement of mine was in reference to YOU mircea not me obviously lol
13:33 * asciilifeform doesn't hate alts but it bored of folks who s/bitcoin/foocoin
13:33 asciilifeform *is
13:34 BingoBoingo !down Cosmos
13:34 mircea_popescu Cosmos i am aware.
13:34 BingoBoingo !up Cosmos
13:34 Cosmos lol this guy, like clockwork
13:34 Cosmos hm, sry for ruining your joke lol mircea
13:34 Cosmos your irony*
13:35 BingoBoingo How long is one of these football games anyway?
13:35 Cosmos im an IRC newb, it's /msg person's name to PM ppl right..?
13:35 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo 90 mins, then they start shooting straight at the goalposts
13:36 BingoBoingo Well it is still tied at 77 minutes in
13:36 mircea_popescu actually nm that. i think ties are allowed in this game.
13:36 BingoBoingo Yeah, there have been so many ties
13:37 moiety i need to run out for prarcetamol, back in 5
13:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.0687 = 6.87 BTC [+]
13:37 moiety or paracetamol, whicever helps with pain
13:38 asciilifeform decimation: russia/native cpu << see earlier 'elbrus.' wake me up when they cough up own os, rather than cribbing.
13:38 mircea_popescu the purring one for you, prrolly
13:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ianal, but it'd seem cribbing is better. rather than writing from scratch and inventing a new mistakes-space, they just take out some mistakes of a well documenterd space
13:39 asciilifeform lol
13:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00080151 = 17.4729 BTC [-] {3}
13:40 asciilifeform 'take out mistakes' >> ssl
13:40 asciilifeform and some mistakes (the need for a compiler) aren't so easy to take out.
13:40 mircea_popescu this is true.
13:41 asciilifeform see: http://blog.regehr.org/archives/498
13:41 assbot Embedded in Academia : Software Bugs and Scientific Progress
13:42 BingoBoingo %ticker
13:42 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 222 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A
13:43 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I guess you'll get to find out what the swat vans are for soon
13:43 mircea_popescu iran scored ?
13:44 BingoBoingo Isn't a tie as bad as losing?
13:45 mircea_popescu nope
13:45 BingoBoingo Ah
13:45 BingoBoingo Well, still no score
13:45 mircea_popescu their scoring is byzantine, but! i think they getrematches and whatnot
13:46 * asciilifeform started crackpot career by reading at&t unix as described in 'lions book' and setting out to 'take out mistakes' - then noticed that result is... empty space
13:46 mircea_popescu lol
13:46 Cosmos worst thing is as soon as this Cup fest is over
13:46 BingoBoingo Handegg Season
13:47 Cosmos we'll be beset w/ another mainstreamer flood, from Jul 4th Independence
13:49 mircea_popescu score.
13:49 mircea_popescu i can tell
13:49 mthreat haha
13:49 mthreat neighbors
13:49 mircea_popescu BECAUSE YOU CAN NO LONGER SPEAK IN MY FUCKING ROOM
13:49 mthreat damn my stream
13:49 mthreat is lagged
13:49 mircea_popescu lol
13:49 BingoBoingo Yeah
13:49 mircea_popescu get real interwebs mthreat :D
13:49 mthreat in argentina? heh
13:49 mircea_popescu mthreat i have it
13:49 mthreat which provider
13:50 mircea_popescu all of them.
13:50 mthreat all?
13:50 mircea_popescu (not even kidding, i got the top package of everyone, loadbalancing it)
13:50 mthreat fucking A
13:51 mircea_popescu they don't go out atthe same time, either.
13:51 assbot Last 9 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3DHHE46.txt )
13:51 BingoBoingo !b 9
13:51 mthreat do you need that much bandwidth, or more for reliability?
13:51 Cosmos do you like CFD's
13:51 mircea_popescu reliability. but bw is a nice throw-in
13:52 asciilifeform re: 'take out mistakes': obligatory: http://pastebin.com/rG1TxJt2
13:52 assbot The Spittoon - Pastebin.com
13:52 mircea_popescu plus, girls like the half hour movie torrent time
13:54 Cosmos I brought entertainment & then I faded down to a speck of nothing
13:54 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3ESAJD1.txt )
13:54 BingoBoingo !b 1
13:54 BingoBoingo !down Cosmos
13:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.0687 = 0.8244 BTC [+]
13:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00080201 = 7.6993 BTC [+]
14:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00079949 = 3.6777 BTC [-] {2}
14:08 moiety /me got distracted by some flowers in need of tlc
14:08 moiety well that worked
14:08 moiety i see the loss of BB was too much for cosmos
14:15 mircea_popescu well maybe he gets through his reading
14:21 penguirker New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/21/tell-the-grand-inquisitor-theres-no-fucking-bitcoin-taint/
14:21 moiety not sure i share your optimism mircea_popescu
14:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00080173 = 9.8613 BTC [+]
14:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11063 @ 0.00079946 = 8.8444 BTC [-] {2}
14:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 887 @ 0.00079812 = 0.7079 BTC [-]
14:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00079761 = 3.9083 BTC [-]
14:42 mircea_popescu !up grahvity
14:44 mthreat googlebot's already crawling search.ba
14:45 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo
14:45 assbot Monty Python - Four Yorkshiremen - YouTube
14:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00079684 = 2.4702 BTC [-]
14:56 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/a-story-of-manscarves/
14:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25136 @ 0.00080029 = 20.1161 BTC [+] {3}
15:05 mircea_popescu re http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-06-2014#725987 (the entire plain words) conundrum, bitcoinpete got me the best in for the best example known to man. http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/21/tell-the-grand-inquisitor-theres-no-fucking-bitcoin-taint/#comment-791
15:05 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
15:05 assbot Tell The Grand Inquisitor There’s No Fucking Bitcoin Taint. | When Bitcoin Met Pete
15:07 mircea_popescu and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-06-2014#725970 is like cosmos' earlier adventure in detail.
15:07 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
15:08 mircea_popescu epic fucking quote that.
15:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00080396 = 11.376 BTC [+]
15:25 moiety "can guess faster than they can learn" lol perfect
15:26 moiety wb
15:27 mircea_popescu motherfucker. power surge during write operation -> destroyed boot.
15:27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: still no civilized power gizmos?
15:27 mircea_popescu apparently mains unfiltered is not good here.
15:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform im putting a whole array in, what's to do.
15:27 punkman ;;ident
15:27 gribble Nick 'punkman', with hostmask 'punkman!~punkman@unaffiliated/punkman', is not identified.
15:27 * asciilifeform got a dual-converting ups as a gift from phriend not long ago. no more stabilizer 'bzzzzzz'
15:27 punkman hmm?
15:28 mircea_popescu by now i'm drastically past the threshold of doorman telling me apart "you know i've never seen so much computer equipment since i work here"
15:28 mircea_popescu something i had hoped to avoid
15:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'liebert gxt2.' recommended.
15:29 mircea_popescu aite.
15:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform provider sez discontinued.
15:30 asciilifeform this kind of gizmo works by running rectifier (mains to 48v dc) at all times, connected to cell bank, and on the exit, inverter (48v dc to local mains voltage ac) likewise at all times
15:30 mircea_popescu girl on cam "and this is my bedroom slash office"
15:30 mircea_popescu ahem.
15:31 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'gxt3' is still sold. and of course there's a dozen or so other vendors who sell similar units.
15:35 penguirker New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/titan-physical-bitcoin-review-silver/
15:36 mircea_popescu On and off, I’ve had the urge to acquire physical Bitcoin coins to give to family and invest/collect them for myself. I have never purchased any sort of collectible coin before, nor have I ever purchased precious metals. << weird what btc does to people.
15:37 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if you only have surges, never dips, ferroresonant gizmo would also work. but they're loud.
15:37 mircea_popescu why assume.
15:39 mircea_popescu The BitPay prompt for payment seems awkwardly designed to me, particularly in that the text version of the payment address is very tiny. << I heard this in the form of "wow, they're really trying to stop you from copying pasting it huh". no idea wtf they;'d be thinking
15:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if you buy this or similar unit, make sure it eats 220v. these, unlike pc power supply, aren't omnivorous.
15:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00080396 = 5.1051 BTC [+]
15:45 ThickAsThieves yep, you read it how i felt it
15:46 ThickAsThieves it's not my first time using bitpay either, i think the address used to be bigger
15:46 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves no i meant i actually heard someone else complain
15:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00080396 = 10.4113 BTC [+]
15:47 ThickAsThieves ah
15:47 mircea_popescu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/The_new_woman--wash_day.png << genderbendin' in 1910
15:47 mircea_popescu by underwood&underwood
15:47 ThickAsThieves add me to the list then
15:58 mircea_popescu btw mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in the logs for the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log thing too ?
16:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0670089 = 0.7371 BTC [-] {3}
16:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00080396 = 8.2004 BTC [+] {2}
16:14 benkay <mircea_popescu> decimation: now, why do you suppose those who work in the bezzle economy are showered with special favors while those who work in the "real economy" are treated as serfs? <<< here's the thing : real estate agents are certified, and have to be bondend in many places, and have to follow best practices, and can and are put to the coals ifthey do not.
16:14 benkay reminds me of a great hustle a neighbor got put through recently
16:15 benkay house immediately downhill from the 'rents went on sale for 900k, reasoning being "well it was built by and inhabited by Dr. Hawthorne of this grand street a few blocks over who also built the insanitarium at the top of said street which is now a seminary"
16:16 benkay the people doing the sale failed to do it on their own at 900k, so this vulture swooped in, started ratcheting the price down and as all the buyers trickled in said something along the lines of "I know that this isn't really what you're looking for, but how about I give you a call sometime next week and I'll show you some houses that might fit your budget and expectations a little bit better".
16:16 benkay two months later, the house has been dragged down from 900k to 700k, and that broker has straight ghosted with all the leads she generated via excellent hustle.
16:17 benkay so while best practices are a thing and brokers do get put to the coals, as with all regulated things only the dumb and most obviously rule-breaky are going to get their feet torched. i can't imagine it being any other way with programmering - the smart ones will shift the blame to the dumb ones, who will take the fall. age old story.
16:18 benkay and what is this "not liable for errors" crap y'all are spouting? i have to fight for that clause in every contract I take on.
16:19 benkay i have no idea what rat fuck of code i'm taking on, and i'm sure as hell not taking responsibility for your untested ball of hair falling over because this private method is getting called by your SUPER IMPORTANT WEEKLY REPORTs.
16:25 benkay <mthreat> Behold, http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/ // linespacing's pretty wide but awesome work
16:25 assbot #bitcoin-assets search
16:25 benkay ;;rate mthreat 1
16:25 gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
16:25 benkay oh i do do i
16:26 benkay ;;rate mthreat 1
16:26 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mthreat has been recorded.
16:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00080471 = 10.4612 BTC [+]
16:30 mircea_popescu benkay> two months later, the house has been dragged down from 900k to 700k, and that broker has straight ghosted with all the leads she generated via excellent hustle. << dumbass approach imo, but hey
16:31 mircea_popescu but that aside, the openssl recent string of bugs WOULD have been of the coal kind
16:31 mircea_popescu which is exactly how it was argued for software responsibility immunity in the 80s : that ALL software failures are clearly of a coal-abl etype, and so not granting immunity would make software "impossible"
16:32 benkay nah, torch anyone who implemented it in their own codebasen. no crime in releasing shit to the world, only a crime to put that shit in your cliquot
16:32 mircea_popescu rms and co really meant "bad software" but just said "software", and "plain language" being what it is, who's to know the difference.
16:32 mircea_popescu as if bitcoin'd suffer from a complete ban on all the tard venues, or computers from a complete disappearance of bad software
16:32 mircea_popescu benkay methinks you might have to brush up on corp law :)
16:32 benkay indubitably.
16:32 mircea_popescu nobody'd put it in without specific representations and certifications
16:33 mircea_popescu an' warranties an' indemnities
16:34 mircea_popescu anyway, i wish i recall who wrote the example with the locks, in favour of software tort immunity
16:34 mircea_popescu it went something like, "if a lock fails that lock can be replaced, but if software failed ALL a company's products fail at the same time so there's nobody to absorb the costs"
16:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0684996 = 0.685 BTC [+] {2}
16:34 mircea_popescu as if this were any kind of argument. as if crops don't fail exactly the same way. etc
16:37 benkay i'm way out of my domain on this, but who gets the spike? devs on openssl and bitcoind > 0.6?
16:37 mircea_popescu bitcoin 9.0, again.
16:37 benkay the people who wrote PHP's rand?
16:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0686 = 0.686 BTC [+]
16:37 mircea_popescu hearn didn't just fuck the db and get bitcoin forket
16:37 mircea_popescu he also merged heartbleed into the codebase.
16:38 mircea_popescu all in the name of the "needed" pki, which was never needed by us, it was needed by nsa.
16:38 benkay does this go for all open source mistakes?
16:39 mircea_popescu the notion that derps imagining themselves involved and part of and etc still treat hearn as anything but vomit behind a bar is perhaps the best argument against democracy.
16:39 mircea_popescu well there's mistakes and there's "mistakes"
16:39 mircea_popescu little girl taking a drink from suspicious man in overcoat is not making a mistake
16:39 mircea_popescu is simply enacting a death wish.
16:42 benkay but he's not wearing an overcoat, he's got a nice pair of slacks and a collared tee, and everyone except the weirdos in the corner are drinking with him.
16:43 mircea_popescu right. and hearn isn't 12.
16:43 mircea_popescu fancy that, adult world has like two or even three tiers of complexity on top of what you find in coloring books.
16:43 benkay i thought hearn was handing out potions in this example.
16:44 mircea_popescu heh. notrly. he's just a whore.
16:44 benkay hm
16:44 mircea_popescu infectious, of course, but nothing much than a tool of contagion.
16:44 benkay ;;later tell xmj i am now
16:44 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:55 decimation re: 48v DC << yeah most higher end servers can be ordered with 48v DC power supplies. works best with a rack-sized 48 v lead-acid battery
16:59 decimation benkay: re: liability << yeah, but I assume you aren't shipping code for anonymous users, I assume you are writing some kind of support contract
16:59 decimation My point about lack of liability has to do with why microsoft hasn't gotten sued for writing crapware that certainly has done demonstrable harm to users
17:00 benkay i always figured that was the insane war chest they have and the mountain of paper under which they'd bury anyone.
17:00 benkay i guess tho that's an artifact of operating in an environment where they're not held liable for their work?
17:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00080505 = 8.8556 BTC [+] {2}
17:02 mircea_popescu i'd say that more likely.
17:02 mircea_popescu all in the name of "open society of knowledge" and "progress" and generally speaking the mistaken view that exploring the space of opportunities is more valuable than staying in one piece
17:03 mircea_popescu basically, "self-seeking" addicted college kids being given the reins of the country.
17:03 mircea_popescu never trust a baby boom, for the baby boomers are almost always the end of things.
17:04 decimation yes, much ruin was brought by that generation
17:04 asciilifeform von neumann cpu, 'c' ~= chinese backyard steel
17:05 asciilifeform everybody can get behind the impalement of author of 'heartbleed' but problem goes deeper.
17:05 decimation imagine if you could be publicly executed for distributing heartbleed
17:05 decimation everyone from the programmer down to the bios writer
17:05 decimation do you think comptuer archs would change?
17:06 mircea_popescu they would have to
17:06 mircea_popescu for physical lack of who to continue.
17:06 asciilifeform or programmers would be shot every day, like nork army colonels
17:06 asciilifeform and people would sorta get used to it
17:06 mircea_popescu i mean you're basically asking, "suppose you could be killed by trying to fuck scorpions in the tail. do you suppose fucking habits would change ?"
17:07 mircea_popescu dunno dood...
17:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6806 @ 0.00080535 = 5.4812 BTC [+]
17:07 decimation this is a pretty simple thought experiment, and the obvious conclusion is that computers (as they are now) are hopelessly insecure
17:08 asciilifeform the 'computer industry' loves the crapfest, though. ('employment!' see http://www.loper-os.org/?p=388 etc)
17:08 assbot Loper OS » Steam Lisp
17:08 asciilifeform the only folks shafted: the users.
17:08 decimation that kinda already puts us in north korea
17:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9476 @ 0.0008044 = 7.6225 BTC [-] {2}
17:08 mircea_popescu well, security was not the first priority. it rarely is, when going over new space.
17:08 mircea_popescu security wasn't high on the list of gold seeking miners, or of cowboys,
17:08 mircea_popescu or of early seafaring explorers
17:08 mircea_popescu magellan died of fucking stupidity.
17:09 mircea_popescu but by now computing is coallescing, and once moore's law finally fucking dies (trompi be praised)
17:09 mircea_popescu we'll finally be in a position to put some fences up and make sense of the damned thing.
17:09 decimation yeah but the difference is that those first 'explorers' were generally unable to dominate the world's market
17:09 asciilifeform security is only one casualty of the crud flood
17:09 mircea_popescu decimation this is a false impression, artefact of your context
17:09 mircea_popescu they dominated the "world market" of their stupidity.
17:09 mircea_popescu what's "go west young man" ?
17:10 decimation right, but it wasn't The West Powered By Intel
17:10 mircea_popescu was exactly the same thing, in its time's typeface.
17:10 mircea_popescu powered by smith&wesson.
17:10 decimation heh. that's a good point
17:10 mircea_popescu what lasting cultural impact for s&w ?
17:11 decimation well, the Winchester old bint built a castle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Mystery_House
17:11 assbot Winchester Mystery House - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:11 mircea_popescu right ?
17:11 mircea_popescu (been there btw. imo not all that it's cracked up to be)
17:12 hanbot mircea_popescu how did you fit through the doorways?!
17:13 mircea_popescu none of the really tiny ones were open ot public
17:13 hanbot i barely managed myself, thing's built for the vertically challenged
17:14 decimation it is true that it seems like computing is coallescing. For instance, ascii's garbage-collector-on-a-chip sounds pretty feasible now, but would have been laughed at 10 years ago
17:15 asciilifeform decimation: it was built in 1979.
17:15 decimation your scheme chip?
17:15 asciilifeform not mine, sussman's
17:15 asciilifeform (i've invented not one of these things)
17:15 decimation right I remember your post about sussman trying to dodge the "why did you give up" question
17:15 asciilifeform ;;google SCHEME-79
17:15 gribble The SCHEME-79 Chip: <http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/6334>; SCHEME+79 Chip: <ftp://publications.ai.mit.edu/ai-publications/pdf/AIM-559.pdf>; Loper OS » Shards of Lost Technology, and the Need for High-Level ...: <http://www.loper-os.org/?p=46>
17:16 decimation bunnie haung has a post about future 'hierloom' hardware http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?page_id=1927
17:16 assbot Why the Best Days of Open Hardware are Yet to Come « bunnie's blog
17:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00080516 = 22.3029 BTC [+] {2}
17:18 asciilifeform i know quite a few people who use hardware built before or shortly after they were born, for which no 'modern' adequate replacement exists
17:19 asciilifeform the 'heirloom computer' is old, old hat.
17:19 decimation the symbolics stuff is certainly an example
17:19 asciilifeform there are countless other examples. visit a university laboratory.
17:20 asciilifeform $800K mass spectrometer connected to pc at.
17:21 decimation even more modern, agilent lab gear that runs windows xp or 2000
17:21 asciilifeform these will get upgraded. because they're already running on crashy turd, no big change
17:21 asciilifeform the things that never upgrade - run on boxes that have never crashed.
17:21 decimation yeah that's a good point
17:22 decimation I had an old IBM AT once. thing was built like a tank
17:22 asciilifeform recently toured university's music lab. they have a player piano, similar to the well-known mechanical kind, but electronic - pressure sensors, a disk full of recordings of famous pianists playing. disk on ms-dos box. 386.
17:22 decimation the amount of steel that went into producing the cabinet was impressive
17:22 asciilifeform servos controlled by isa card
17:22 decimation heh
17:23 asciilifeform (incidentally, you can get usb fixtures that will talk to an isa card. unsuitable for the piano - no 'hard real time' guarantee on usb!)
17:23 decimation absolutely not
17:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10345 @ 0.00080545 = 8.3324 BTC [+] {2}
17:23 decimation I've discovered from my own experience that newere Xeon chips are much more laggy than older single core pentiums
17:23 decimation having 1024 chickens service your hardware isn't an improvement
17:24 asciilifeform worse, unpredictably laggy. elaborate cache pyramid, easy to throw off
17:24 decimation yeah it's like playing plinko with a real-time deadline
17:24 mircea_popescu decimation> the amount of steel that went into producing the cabinet was impressive << i bought new desktop cases here. i could punch a hole threough the things
17:24 decimation even in more modern stuff there is this effect. Look at features that are dying off in cell phones
17:24 asciilifeform much of the supposed speed gains of recent decade were achieved using 'instruction re-ordering'
17:25 asciilifeform which plays havoc with real-time anything. and with any attempt at hand optimization
17:25 decimation http://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3 << catalog of almost all known phones. Put in "keyboard" && "> 1.5 GHz clock" ... you get 4 results
17:25 assbot Phone Finder - search for a phone by feature - GSMArena.com
17:25 mircea_popescu phone keyboards were insanity
17:26 decimation yeah every computer I get has a thinner case
17:26 decimation most of them are plastic now
17:26 asciilifeform you can still get steel if you buy 'rack' enclosures
17:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00080552 = 21.1852 BTC [+]
17:26 benkay phone keyboards are still infinitely better than touchscreens.
17:26 decimation yeah, but you pay.
17:26 asciilifeform an empty '2u' rack case is 300 usd or so
17:26 mircea_popescu benkay but still unusable.
17:26 decimation mircea, are you saying the touchscreen is a better interface for typing?
17:27 mircea_popescu no lol. imsaying wtf typing on your phone.
17:27 mircea_popescu the name is PHONE
17:27 benkay old man
17:27 decimation yeah that's a good point
17:27 benkay i grew up typing on them
17:27 mircea_popescu now that's sad.
17:27 benkay with T9 i could hammer out punctuation-perfect anything without even looking.
17:27 asciilifeform chording keyboard would've worked great on phones
17:27 decimation well, I would argue that physical phone keyboards are a better match for the occasional typing needed, compared to a touchscreen input
17:27 mircea_popescu "what do you mean drinking mud is bad for me. i grew up drinking mud"
17:28 decimation but I take your point about it sucks
17:28 asciilifeform (this one: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=861)
17:28 assbot Loper OS » Engelbart’s Violin
17:28 mircea_popescu anyone has a pic ready of the kids that bathed in warm water post chernobyl ?
17:28 benkay hey i'm not saying mud's great
17:28 benkay but it sure as heck beats actual shit.
17:28 mircea_popescu benkay no i know
17:28 decimation yeah I agree, why no chording interface
17:28 decimation or hell, I would even enter morse code
17:28 mircea_popescu decimation i'd rather have to whislte 8 baud into it than have to type on tha small shit
17:29 mircea_popescu btw : why no whistle interface for smartphones yet ?
17:29 decimation I agree, but if you are going to eat turds they might as well have a good keyboard
17:29 mircea_popescu fucking "innovation" consisting of everyone making the same 3 games and 2 apps over and over AND OVER again
17:29 mircea_popescu i bet you most people could whistle more wpm than they natively type
17:30 decimation right, that's my point about phones (ascii has pointed this out before) - they are all converging on iphone clones
17:30 asciilifeform morse is eminently learnable
17:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah, and i recall the tests : morse is faster than texting.
17:30 asciilifeform (re: fear of learning, obligatory naggum: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3140985758772364@naggum.no.html)
17:30 assbot 404 Not Found
17:30 mircea_popescu ;;google morse faster than texting
17:30 gribble Wiki: Morse Faster Than Text Messaging: <http://c2.com/morse/wiki.cgi?MorseFasterThanTextMessaging>; Morse Code VS Text Messaging - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbA0UedX2Ws>; Morse Code Operators versus Mobile Phone Texting - SchoolTube: <http://www.schooltube.com/video/b10e053ebe005282aada/>
17:31 decimation just like 'computers' were varied and interesting, and then all converged to wintel shitbox
17:31 asciilifeform btw anyone who wants to try chording:
17:31 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/mwemu/mwemu.html
17:31 assbot MwEmu
17:31 decimation 'phones' were varied and interesting and converge to iphone shitbox
17:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20702 @ 0.00080552 = 16.6759 BTC [+]
17:33 mircea_popescu i dunno they were ever that interesting
17:33 mircea_popescu i rapidly lost interest after motorola somethng or the other
17:33 mircea_popescu the last one you could grab by antenna and hit peopleover the head with
17:33 benkay star tac's were amazing
17:33 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
17:33 benkay ;;google star tac
17:33 gribble Motorola StarTAC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_StarTAC>; The Motorola StarTAC is Back, in Yellow - Gizmodo: <http://gizmodo.com/5672422/the-motorola-startac-is-back-in-yellow>; Motorola StarTAC 130 - lëkki: <http://www.lekki.fr/en/10-motorola-startac>
17:34 mircea_popescu the first clams ?
17:34 benkay yup.
17:34 mircea_popescu you only think that becaus they looked like a cona to you.
17:34 mircea_popescu at an age when that was still a big deal
17:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 51 @ 0.03847462 = 1.9622 BTC [-]
17:34 benkay ;;google cona
17:34 gribble YMCA Youth Conference On National Affairs - Home: <http://www.ymcacona.org/>; Carriage Operators of North America - Home Page: <http://www.cona.org/>; Cona - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cona>
17:34 benkay ?
17:34 asciilifeform there were sane people:
17:34 mircea_popescu con~a
17:34 asciilifeform http://www.xaphoon.com/dataegg
17:34 asciilifeform (never mass produced)
17:35 asciilifeform at some point you have to ask, what problem are you actually solving by building pocket computer
17:35 mircea_popescu word.
17:35 mircea_popescu maybe if i had a really small pet person, like 6 inches tall or so.
17:36 mircea_popescu they could have a big iron
17:36 benkay more compute near more people
17:36 benkay hedonic treadmill
17:36 benkay gameboy ain't enough
17:36 mircea_popescu i vote decimation "worst internet connection of #b-a"
17:37 asciilifeform what's he using? ip over wood-fired dead goat ?
17:37 decimation I use these guys https://www.witopia.net/
17:37 assbot WiTopia Personal VPN Services Providers. Easily unblock Skype, Hulu, Netflix and Facebook - WiTopia
17:37 decimation for some reason the openvpn client on linux lags to shit constantly
17:38 asciilifeform i still don't get the point of connecting to freenode using a spam proxy
17:38 mircea_popescu +1
17:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.0684999 = 0.822 BTC [+]
17:38 decimation I guess I don't like the idea of my actual IP being spammed everywhere
17:38 mircea_popescu so get a cloak
17:39 mircea_popescu "the leading provider of home technology services"
17:39 mircea_popescu da fuck is that, like white goods ?
17:40 decimation ascii, you don't even cloak - I assume it's because you want to examine that which buzzes into your pot?
17:40 asciilifeform decimation: among other reasons
17:40 decimation I think they market to military deployed overseas in countries that have firewalls
17:40 asciilifeform this is eerily reminiscent of the discussion about folks who use their given names, vs. 'hard' pseudonyms
17:40 asciilifeform decimation: such countries typically add public vpn companies to ban list
17:40 decimation heh, the smart ones do
17:41 asciilifeform solution is to have a privately owned box in a 'friendly' ip block to tunnel from
17:41 decimation exactly
17:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform speaking of which, everyone at earlier mentioned brunch was floored. "but that is your real name ?!" "yeah" "but... but... but everyone uses a pseudonym" "i don't give a shit" *silence*
17:41 asciilifeform lol
17:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15060 @ 0.00080262 = 12.0875 BTC [-] {2}
17:41 mircea_popescu i imagine it must suck to have a job working for idiots.
17:42 asciilifeform public vpn is like a public reusable condom in whorehouse
17:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00080142 = 6.5716 BTC [-]
17:42 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that dataegg thing looks like the earlier nutso kbd
17:42 benkay my insurance guy won't even ride his bike naked in the naked bike ride
17:42 benkay o.O
17:43 benkay goes anyways.
17:43 mircea_popescu wtf
17:43 mircea_popescu small cock ?
17:43 decimation I've always been confused why "device" makers don't integrate morse code into the phone/pad/whatever
17:43 benkay american puritanism.
17:44 benkay "my clients, you see."
17:44 mircea_popescu decimation keyboard with tickler on side would be pretty rad.
17:44 benkay homeboy is brokering insurance deals for the queer community left right and sideways. yet..."my clients".
17:44 mircea_popescu benkay i bet you an all naked insurance company'd make a killing
17:44 mircea_popescu "we're not stealing from you - we wouldn't have where to hide it"
17:45 mircea_popescu hire a dozen or so models/webcam girls, all the other womenz'd fall right in line
17:45 mircea_popescu "o, but *everyone* does it"
17:46 decimation you can buy a tactile watch http://gearhungry.com/2013/07/bradley-tactile-watch.html#!1Q8pl
17:46 assbot Bradley Tactile Watch | GearHungry
17:46 benkay gotta say i ain't got no clue as to how nudity'd sell insurance.
17:46 benkay it's not like the underwriters office is anywhere near the customers.
17:48 mircea_popescu then WHAT DIFF DOES IT MAKE
17:48 mircea_popescu you see you have fallen right into my little trap!11
17:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00080142 = 10.7791 BTC [-]
17:48 * benkay wriggles frantically in the sticky ropes
17:49 decimation re: public vpn: yeah but it keeps the ankelbiters away, kinda
17:49 benkay aw fuck here we go again
17:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.0684999 = 1.507 BTC [+] {2}
17:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5090 @ 0.00080142 = 4.0792 BTC [-]
18:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.06848 = 0.8902 BTC [-]
18:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.0675 = 1.9575 BTC [-]
18:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00080117 = 2.5637 BTC [-]
18:04 moiety spending time reading logs keeps ankle biters away
18:05 moiety you can put number on things like age but its really a dedication thing
18:05 moiety am i teling myself that as a delusional spinster?!
18:05 moiety i believe this tho
18:07 mircea_popescu moiety depends how you mean it specifically ?
18:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00080117 = 3.3649 BTC [-]
18:09 moiety in terms of learning stuff here, i guess so mircea_popescu, but i have found in across board. there's some people i would hire that are half the age of those i wouldn't
18:10 moiety it across the board*
18:10 mircea_popescu well yeah
18:11 moiety this past year has been my first steps into managing those online, irl its a lot easier and a very different
18:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 71 @ 0.0675 = 4.7925 BTC [-]
18:13 moiety well that was maybe a wrong thing to say.... managing people irl is maybe easier if youre used to it
18:14 mircea_popescu irl you also have tits.
18:15 decimation wow it was easier to get a cloak than I figured it would be
18:15 mircea_popescu mthreat http://www.quickmeme.com/img/4d/4d01d28147bdc6ffbb6feb6c576a7745f0935c8a523201ea11981c8c41b5ba9d.jpg
18:15 mircea_popescu yes.
18:15 moiety you just have to hang around decimation
18:16 moiety mircea_popescu: well maybe thats why i was given a chance at being a good pa, but it doesnt mean you can deliver
18:18 mircea_popescu moiety don't you find people tend to be less argumentative ?
18:18 mircea_popescu https://www.google.com/search?q=i+have+the+tits+i+make+the+rules style.
18:18 assbot i have the tits i make the rules - Google Search
18:19 decimation re: age: I've found that "adult children" are common in the us anyway
18:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.0008012 = 13.5403 BTC [+] {2}
18:21 mircea_popescu http://24.media.tumblr.com/7f6943a23f0f408017552998442a9486/tumblr_mry28vfvYa1qdoxp5o1_500.jpg << fixed ?
18:21 moiety not at all mircea_popescu it's actually a good test for me, tells me how someone would be to work with. if the argument is articulate, it makes a huge difference right?
18:21 mircea_popescu right.
18:23 moiety as an organiser, i find it rude telling me how to run things without a decent backup argument/reason and here are plenty that try. its just a hmnmo thx but i take note of the ideas
18:24 moiety there are plenty that try*
18:25 moiety ! publio
18:25 moiety !publio
18:25 moiety assbot, cmon just forgive me eh
18:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00080125 = 15.6244 BTC [+]
18:27 TheNewDeal no need for up now?
18:27 TheNewDeal just ! ?
18:28 benkay ! publio
18:28 benkay !publio
18:28 benkay !up publio
18:28 benkay !down publio
18:28 publio not sure..
18:28 benkay ! khersonus
18:28 benkay *shrug*
18:29 mircea_popescu odd
18:30 mircea_popescu and down is broked ?
18:30 mircea_popescu !down publio
18:30 benkay !up CoalPowerGorilla
18:30 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot publio
18:30 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask publio!~publio@c-68-61-150-36.hsd1.mi.comcast.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user publio: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=publio | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=publio | Rated since: Sun Apr 15 23:05:03 2012
18:30 mircea_popescu oic
18:30 benkay !down CoalPowerGorilla
18:30 mircea_popescu publio had you self-voiced coincidentally just as moiety was derping ?
18:30 publio did it just to spite :)
18:30 mircea_popescu oic
18:31 benkay clever m'lad
18:32 TheNewDeal that's ridiculous. Had me going
18:33 mircea_popescu "And more to the point here, it is the reason why women often feel that men have "the upper hand" in relationships. That feeling doesn't exist because men are dominant over women or have some kind of real advantage; it is just because men are strongly motivated by sex, and therefore get into relationships with girls they don't really care about - or at least, they get into relationships with girls who care more about t
18:33 mircea_popescu hem than they do about the girls, even if only by a small amount. In other words, men only have the upper hand because they have this tendency to play below their league."
18:34 mircea_popescu intriguing theory off random derpy blog http://www.therulesrevisited.com/2011/10/upper-hand-in-relationships.html
18:34 assbot The Rules Revisited: The Upper Hand In Relationships
18:34 benkay those post-25 year old females punch below their weight too - only way to recruit a provider at that phase of life.
18:35 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/five-bucks-for-great-justice/
18:35 benkay going back to yesterdays conversation about the dearth of leadership and stones etc
18:35 mircea_popescu sure. and he goes into full retard mode right after, proposing that somehow "not givingit up easy" helps a woman's position.
18:36 mircea_popescu it so happens that i won't even consider women that don't, i'm pretty sure the top generally doesn't, and so it's a quite dangerous strat.
18:39 benkay well if we can rathole on the evolutionary psychology thing playing hard to get raises the bar for potential impregnators.
18:40 benkay "gotta work for it", or raep.
18:40 mircea_popescu if she doesn't have thesense to realise she's accidentally run into the absolute best, she can't be all that smart in the first place.
18:40 mircea_popescu who wants dummies ?
18:41 benkay judging competence is hard, though. ergo heuristics like playing hard to get.
18:42 benkay obvs the top of the top enjellify legs without really even trying
18:42 benkay but...0.01% oslt
18:43 mircea_popescu well yeah. but by playing hard to get you may get +10 on your average catch, but also get the guarantee you're never getting in the bed of that 0.whatever%
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18:43 thestringpuller sluts who play hard to get: oxymoron or profound truth?
18:43 mircea_popescu this also isn't a very good strat.
18:43 mircea_popescu thestringpuller nah, that's ancient whore strat. i even wrote it up im pretty sure
18:43 mircea_popescu ;;google trilema whore strat
18:43 gribble Back to work, whore. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/back-to-work-whore>; Why exactly reusing Bitcoin addresses strengthens Bitcoin ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2014/why-exactly-reusing-bitcoin-addresses-strengthens-bitcoin-user-anonimity/>; Iulie 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/07>
18:44 thestringpuller the former or latter?
18:44 thestringpuller i assume "back to work whore"
18:44 benkay relatedly, lady v and i were saying goodbyes at a dinner party last night, all of the girls with whom i'm friends with at this thing lined up for hugs and kisses - and then the new girl in the room gets up and right in line as well, demanding hers giggling and blushing all the while
18:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00079943 = 2.4383 BTC [-]
18:44 mircea_popescu hmm now i can't find it.
18:45 thestringpuller benkay: "OMG I smelle riches and success. *blush blush blush*. I want a hug now!!!!"
18:45 benkay basically
18:45 thestringpuller did lady benkay choke a bitch?
18:45 benkay no no she's an instigator
18:46 thestringpuller instagator how? Like "you should get some hugs from them cute girls" ?
18:46 mircea_popescu thestringpuller the idea being that an utter whore denying the pack leader any fucking has a decent chance to drive him mad and end up in some sort of "that obscure object of desire " situation.
18:47 mircea_popescu basically her refusal to give him what she gives the whole pack is a slight, but one he has no redress for : she's already an outcast.
18:48 benkay thestringpuller: more like she gets the girls primed
18:48 benkay mp has better stories on this.
18:48 benkay and it's lady v to you, sir.
18:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0670032 = 1.3401 BTC [+] {3}
18:48 mircea_popescu benkay so did she feel girls butt while hugging ?
18:49 mircea_popescu <thestringpuller> benkay: "OMG I smelle riches and success. *blush blush blush*. I want a hug now!!!!" << dun be an asshole, maybe she's just fun loving.
18:50 benkay maybe she's just doing what all the other girls are doing
18:50 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: I've been surrounded by 20 year olds for the past decade...they always want something...
18:51 mircea_popescu well of coursethey want something. all living things want stuff.
18:51 benkay <mircea_popescu> benkay so did she feel girls butt while hugging ? // no but great idea
18:51 benkay great butt idea
18:51 benkay <3
18:51 benkay butts
18:51 benkay $bait
18:52 benkay $butts
18:52 mircea_popescu experience.
18:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23220 @ 0.0007988 = 18.5481 BTC [-] {2}
19:01 Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Difficulty over 21Bn by Summer's end 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/877/ Odds: 80(Y):20(N) by coin, 79(Y):21(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.805 BTC. Current weight: 78,832.
19:01 thestringpuller !mpif
19:02 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+]
19:03 mircea_popescu so actually trading under nav huh
19:03 benkay mike called it yesterday
19:03 benkay mike_c
19:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14181 @ 0.00080132 = 11.3635 BTC [+] {2}
19:04 thestringpuller !ticker m f.mpif
19:04 assbot [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 (500 shares, 0.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.0002165 / 0.00021726 (26680 shares, 5.78 BTC)
19:11 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/chipmunk.jpg
19:12 benkay guest?
19:13 mircea_popescu nah just random trilema pic. from http://www.laurieandcicero.com/index.html
19:13 assbot Laurie & Cicero's Favorite Spots
19:14 penguirker New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/argentina-and-the-art-of-being-into-it/
19:19 benkay that's what i like about portland as well
19:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00080036 = 1.3606 BTC [-]
19:19 benkay people are into their stuff entirely unabashedly. although here, it's knitting sweaters for trees and not sawing off epic hunks of meat.
19:19 benkay or...performing Original Star Trek in graveyards.
19:20 mircea_popescu wait.
19:20 mircea_popescu for trees ?!
19:20 benkay or the World Naked Bike Ride, or Pedalpalooza in general.
19:20 benkay you'll see them down in bsas as well.
19:20 benkay just a different kind of street art.
19:20 benkay oh and not just trees - bike staples as well.
19:21 mircea_popescu hm
19:21 * benkay waits for the scathing critique of all things America
19:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16918 @ 0.00080091 = 13.5498 BTC [+] {2}
19:28 thestringpuller benkay: are you surrounded by hippies in your city?
19:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-] {2}
19:32 mircea_popescu " Lisp is not the kind of language that insecure losers would use. people do not want to learn Lisp because they stand a better chance of beating another unskilled fool in the job race. fact is: you don't get a job by lying about your Lisp skills. all of this means that there is very little activity at the front gate, where all the journalists and the media are. there are no people struggling like mad to ge
19:32 mircea_popescu t into the Lisp world. they don't have to. if you want to learn Lisp, you go learn Lisp and talk to nice people who probably have time for you, and you make yourself good at it. then you go do complex stuff that insecure losers who lie about their Java skills can't even imagine, and therefore do not consider part of the competition."
19:32 mircea_popescu pretty lulzy how accurate this is.
19:32 mircea_popescu not necessarily about lisp
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19:52 benkay thestringpuller: transients come, transients go. part of the nature of...transients.
19:53 benkay there are a lot of underemployed hipster girls about tho - and none of 'em can make a life where they can afford babies in the states anymore. ergo, tree-sweaters.
19:53 benkay dunno what's going on down in buenos aires tho.
19:53 mircea_popescu sad.
19:54 mircea_popescu women here can have kids, yes.
19:54 benkay families also paint great big huge murals on their intersections to slow cars down.
19:54 benkay it's a weird place, but that's why i like it.
19:55 * moiety urgh is all i have to say
19:55 mircea_popescu "dead or dying software projects lie around all over the place, like a horrible war zone between ignorant users and frightened managers"
19:56 mircea_popescu beautiful.
19:57 Mats_cd03 17:14:14 mircea_popescu: i live in fear of this, btw, one of these days one of you assholes is going to script the noob and then i'll have to close down the whole operation ;/
19:57 Mats_cd03 gems abound in today's log
19:58 mircea_popescu you ain't seen nothin' yet Mats_cd03
20:00 benkay i don't know that the women *can't* have kids so much as the men aren't interested in being fathers or even men
20:00 mircea_popescu is what i meant.
20:01 mircea_popescu "when you write manuals for naval or air force vessels, you don't use MS Word and hope Microsoft doesn't come out with yet another incompatible disservice pack and/or upgrade, you use CALS and enterprise-wide publishing systems."
20:01 mircea_popescu holy shit what is he on about. what happened to tex.
20:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: cals is/was a mind-bogglingly pedantic spec from us dod (circa early 80s)
20:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: with the idea that under no circumstances would the death of one, two, hundred vendors lead to unreadable texts
20:02 mircea_popescu hm
20:02 asciilifeform the result was a mega-backbreaker - like Ada. but it sorta worked.
20:02 mircea_popescu i am ignorant ofsuch matters.
20:03 asciilifeform they could have, in principle, picked tex, but the latter has no hard spec for graphics.
20:04 asciilifeform all of this took place in the long-gone era when usg insisted on full blueprints, chip masks (!) etc. to ensure longevity of a complete design
20:04 mircea_popescu as in tables ?
20:04 asciilifeform as in bitmaps
20:04 mircea_popescu wtf bitmaps
20:04 asciilifeform and vector (e.g. cad)
20:04 mircea_popescu svg ?
20:04 asciilifeform svg is a very recent thing
20:05 asciilifeform remember, this is pre-sgml even
20:05 mircea_popescu oh oh
20:05 asciilifeform us dod realized that computer would remain 'a thing' - wanted hard specced formats.
20:05 asciilifeform one of the last gasps of reason from that institution
20:06 asciilifeform (naggum is known to have worked in ada. hence his familiarity with the matter)
20:07 asciilifeform what computer-based product, on the shelf today, can be guaranteed manufacturable 50 years hence?
20:07 asciilifeform that was the objective. some semblance of guarantee.
20:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform flash rom
20:08 asciilifeform funny that you mention roms, because vintage arcade machine enthusiasts go through astounding gymnastics to replicate the behaviour of '80s roms.
20:08 mircea_popescu and to push a point, im pretty sure the mosfets are unchanged
20:08 mircea_popescu since maybe 60s
20:09 asciilifeform if you want an analogue part with known 'curves', you usually have to work at it.
20:09 asciilifeform ask a fellow who's into vintage musical synths
20:09 asciilifeform (or the valve aficionados)
20:10 asciilifeform obligatory:
20:10 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl-QMuUQhVM
20:10 assbot hand making vacuum tubes Part 1 - YouTube
20:12 mircea_popescu !up cowloon
20:12 cowloon what's that mean
20:12 benkay http://www.cmog.org/artwork/fuck
20:13 assbot FUCK | Corning Museum of Glass
20:13 mircea_popescu it means you can talk.
20:13 cowloon oh, thanks
20:13 cowloon but, I'm just here to lurk at the moment
20:14 mircea_popescu it'll fade away, don't worry.
20:14 benkay http://www.incandescentsculpture.com/wordpress/teslas-sensitive-brush-bulbs-or-the-invention-of-the-fluorescent-light/
20:14 assbot Dylan Kehde Roelofs › Tesla’s wireless ‘sensitive brush’ Bulbs (Or: The invention of the Fluorescent light)
20:16 benkay http://www.incandescentsculpture.com/wordpress/burning-man-2007-and-2008-my-custom-neon-plasma-tubes/
20:16 assbot Dylan Kehde Roelofs › Burning Man 2007 and 2008: My custom neon plasma tubes-
20:18 asciilifeform benkay: my parents had a soviet gizmo that consisted of exactly such a tube, with small tesla coil in the handle (dermatological crackpot medicine) so i got to see/feel mr t's tube on own hide.
20:18 asciilifeform ;;google дарсонваль
20:18 gribble Дарсонваль - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlZs5XZ4Qr0>; Дарсонваль c AliExpress - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJHhon90d88>; Физиотерапия дарсонваль - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IYCPDE9U9s>
20:18 * asciilifeform laughed when, decades hence, saw the same in american sex shops
20:19 mircea_popescu asciilifeform actually it's jolting if inserted up the cunt
20:19 asciilifeform i can picture this
20:20 asciilifeform for those who don't own this toy - it is rather like the spark of static one sometimes gets when touching grounded objects in winter time, but - constantly
20:20 mircea_popescu so it has legitimate place in sex shop
20:20 mircea_popescu if not in derma clinic (which is still done btw, high end spas and whatnot)
20:20 asciilifeform zaps, e.g. acne pretty well.
20:20 mircea_popescu " the spark of static one sometimes gets when touching grounded objects in winter time" << he means, when wearing mixed wool and plastic clothing
20:21 asciilifeform or wool slippers
20:21 benkay http://www.remingtonproducts.com/womens/ipl/i-light-pro/i-light-pro-intense-pulsed-light-hair-removal-system.aspx << does this shit work?
20:21 assbot i-LIGHT Pro Intense Pulsed Light Hair Removal System | Remington Products
20:22 benkay it seems to cook the follicle...
20:22 asciilifeform go find the fellow who'll agree to shave with this.
20:23 asciilifeform (reminds me of the russian ww2 recipe for a quick shave - petrol.)
20:23 benkay test it on a babe...
20:23 benkay dissolves the hair, asciilifeform ?
20:23 asciilifeform negative
20:23 asciilifeform gotta light it.
20:23 mircea_popescu benkay you have no idea how far the female threshold is.
20:23 mircea_popescu they brazilian wax FOR SPORT
20:24 benkay i gotta start waxing for sport
20:24 asciilifeform light coat of high-boiling fuel on skin won't burn the latter - watch a stage magician set own hands on fire, etc
20:24 asciilifeform best done by one skilled in the art.
20:25 asciilifeform ;;google leidenfrost effect
20:25 gribble Leidenfrost effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leidenfrost_effect>; Hand vs. Liquid Nitrogen and the Leidenfrost Effect - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjsMV1MglA4>; BOILING AND THE LEIDENFROST EFFECT - Wiley: <http://www.wiley.com/college/phy/halliday320005/pdf/leidenfrost_essay.pdf>
20:25 benkay okay so in this book of historical erotica i was browsing at the party last night in place of the utterly inane conversation of drunks and the unemployable i discovered a print titled 'the barber', where some woman was having her cooch shaved
20:25 benkay this from like 1640 or something
20:26 benkay and while I *know* that nothing is new under the sun, i still learned last night that cuntshaving's been a thing forever.
20:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4829 @ 0.00080134 = 3.8697 BTC [+]
20:26 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you familiar with this supposed siberian torture technique, give naked victim gasoline and a book of matches and let them be ?
20:26 benkay ;;ticker
20:26 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 589.8, Best ask: 590.74, Bid-ask spread: 0.94000, Last trade: 592.32, 24 hour volume: 2972.46767097, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 594.99, 24 hour vwap: 588.094009094
20:26 mircea_popescu something like that
20:26 mircea_popescu benkay not forever. i think it was a greek invention.
20:27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this works on americans. who routinely manage to light themselves up when trying to start backyard fires
20:27 mircea_popescu lol
20:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00080134 = 5.1286 BTC [+]
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20:45 benkay that's forever to me ;)
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21:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00080134 = 11.1386 BTC [+]
21:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-]
21:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00080123 = 17.9476 BTC [-]
21:23 mircea_popescu !up nerdfiles
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21:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23429 @ 0.00080228 = 18.7966 BTC [+] {3}
21:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.19224285 = 2.6914 BTC [-] {9}
21:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00080123 = 7.7719 BTC [-]
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22:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.19 = 5.7 BTC [-]
22:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00080123 = 6.9306 BTC [-]
22:43 mircea_popescu argentine flan kicks ass
22:50 assbot muXne +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
22:54 mircea_popescu !up muxne
22:54 assbot Vexual +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
22:55 mircea_popescu !up vexual
22:55 mircea_popescu noobs
23:00 mircea_popescu !up vexual
23:01 Vexual hi
23:02 mircea_popescu no soup for you.
23:03 Vexual tell me about it
23:03 Vexual i tried to go to the thing in hong kong
23:04 Vexual calced exactly the whisky to sleep for 8 hours
23:04 mircea_popescu there was this duckling earlier.
23:04 Vexual frindly airport staff think i overcalced
23:05 Vexual duckling?
23:06 mircea_popescu what's your bell come to by the\ way ?
23:07 asciilifeform unrelated to anything (save possible the legal sophistries discussions):
23:07 asciilifeform http://pastebin.com/EYwLyU1y
23:07 assbot sacchetti - Pastebin.com
23:08 asciilifeform took ages to dig up the english
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23:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2069 @ 0.00080353 = 1.6625 BTC [+]
23:27 mircea_popescu !up kanzure
23:27 asciilifeform ;;ident kanzure
23:27 gribble Nick 'kanzure', with hostmask 'kanzure!~kanzure@131.252.130.248', is not identified.
23:28 asciilifeform kanzure: get in wot so i can rate you as known human
23:35 kanzure asciilifeform: oops sorry about that
23:35 kanzure asciilifeform: fixed
23:35 kanzure asciilifeform: btw, i bought a dna synthesizer the other day
23:36 asciilifeform which one
23:36 kanzure ABI 391
23:36 asciilifeform neato
23:36 kanzure hell yeah! a decade of cancer here i come.
23:37 kanzure gonna be hooking up a microfluidic column based on a projector
23:37 kanzure to do 1920x1080 sequences simultaneously
23:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.06699799 = 0.871 BTC [+]
23:40 asciilifeform ;;rate kanzure 1 meat programmer
23:40 gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
23:40 kanzure asciilifeform: still trying to figure out how to paint the device,
23:40 kanzure i was thinking painting this over the beige panels: http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.15027782.1633/fc,550x550,asphalt.u1.jpg
23:40 asciilifeform ;;rate kanzure 1 meat programmer
23:40 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user kanzure has been recorded.
23:44 kanzure also open to suggestions for other graffiti options
23:45 mircea_popescu that domain read redtube at frst
23:46 kanzure might as well
23:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00080506 = 7.5676 BTC [+]
23:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 119 @ 0.067 = 7.973 BTC [+]
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