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00:02 BingoBoingo I swear, i there s a USG agency that can't know exactly who I am... WTF am I being taxed for...
00:02 mthreat you wouldn't want a place without AC in december-january in buenos aires
00:02 Vexual never been
00:02 mthreat it gets around 35-38 degrees C
00:03 Vexual your logic is unusual
00:03 Vexual some like it hot?
00:04 Vexual oh i read you like who
00:04 BingoBoingo Vexual: Everything is abnormal and everything is great
00:04 Vexual yes and it's usually me
00:05 TheNewDeal for the lulz https://twitter.com/miilkkk/status/474935367318376448/photo/1
00:05 assbot i asked how good she sucked dick and she sent me this pic http://t.co/S1GeAKyJGn
00:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16196 @ 0.00085513 = 13.8497 BTC [-]
00:06 mircea_popescu <TheNewDeal> I realize you had some troubles identifying entities that do in fact rent :D << well yeah, about a dozen orso argentine "experts" took two days to derp about with no results.
00:07 mircea_popescu then i called in the cavalry (ie, my own intel dept, english speakers that don't live there) and i was fixed up the same day.
00:07 TheNewDeal prices?
00:07 TheNewDeal !up Vexual
00:07 mircea_popescu anyway, non ac'd places seem improbable, but a few hundred a month should set you up.
00:08 mircea_popescu depends, some ukrainian guy i know picked up a chick in the street and moved in with her. no rent.
00:16 TheNewDeal intruiging
00:17 TheNewDeal and hows the cannabis?
00:19 mircea_popescu i don't do pot.
00:21 TheNewDeal mostly kidding, I think I remember that from before
00:22 TheNewDeal us weed fiends are a rare breed in B-A
00:22 TheNewDeal have you ever?
00:23 Vexual yeah about 200 years ago
00:24 Vexual *2000
00:24 mircea_popescu sure
00:25 mircea_popescu but no, not so rare, you can generally smell it all over the place.
00:26 TheNewDeal and do their rivers generally flow north?
00:26 mircea_popescu uh
00:26 mircea_popescu i have no idea. the shrimp isprettygood tho
00:30 TheNewDeal ooooh looks like argentina has decriminalized possession, muchos progressivos
00:32 mircea_popescu they also have gays now
00:33 Vexual have you eaten pirhana?
00:33 mircea_popescu what's this, soviet amazonia ?
00:33 mircea_popescu piranha eats you.
00:33 TheNewDeal hahahha whaaaat
00:36 mthreat freal - piranha attack in january: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542176/Ten-people-savaged-flesh-eating-piranhas-Argentinian-river-tried-cool-blistering-41C-heat.html
00:36 assbot Ten people savaged by flesh-eating piranhas in Argentinian river as they tried to cool off in blistering 41C heat | Mail Online
00:37 TheNewDeal holy sh!t those things look nasty
00:39 TheNewDeal just hope the men had a bathing suit on
00:41 TheNewDeal has anyone heard any recent news about bitcoin banking and cannabis sales in colorado?
00:44 TheNewDeal would be nice if they could peg the price of bitcoin to an ounce or something for a week
00:45 TheNewDeal or actually it would be the other way around
00:49 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/im-fresh-out-of-titles-try-again-tomorrow/
00:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12589 @ 0.00085513 = 10.7652 BTC [-]
00:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5195 @ 0.00085497 = 4.4416 BTC [-]
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01:13 TheNewDeal tikka massala is one of the greatest indian gifts to man
01:15 cazalla don't forget the cheese naan
01:21 Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Gold will close above USD 2000 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/759/ Odds: 34(Y):66(N) by coin, 38(Y):62(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.378482 BTC. Current weight: 61,192.
01:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00085397 = 21.6908 BTC [-] {2}
01:26 TheNewDeal I also love the naan with nuts on it
01:26 TheNewDeal can't remember what it's called at the restaurant i frequent
01:32 cazalla do you like rabbit? i've got one going in the slow cooker, will be nice
01:36 cazalla wifes friends and some family turn their nose up at it like i'm offering them the same chicken mcnuggets they toss down their gullet
01:37 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal word. esp for lamb.
01:37 mircea_popescu cazalla yeah, rabbit in rosemary:D
01:37 TheNewDeal had some pretty tasty goat curry at an indian buffet tonight
01:38 TheNewDeal reminded me of a time I invited some friends over for a meal that someone cooked for us, and one of them swallowed a goat bone (he hadn't had goat before)
01:43 TheNewDeal never had rabbit before
01:44 cazalla similar to chicken if you butcher prior to sexual maturity
01:45 cazalla i have a small rabbitry, it's a fun hobby and satisfying watching them go from conception to the plate
01:46 TheNewDeal how do you keep the numbers managable, don't they fuck like... rabbits?
01:47 cazalla eat them
01:48 mircea_popescu the natural way lol
01:48 cazalla good to butcher around 8-9 weeks
01:49 TheNewDeal ok so approx how many are alive right now in your rabbitry?
01:50 cazalla 1 buck, 2 does, 7 from last litter left, other doe is due to have them in 8 days
01:53 TheNewDeal oh my gosh. Gold from yahoo answers "Unspayed female: drastically shorter lifespan due to a high rate of reproductive cancer (85% unaltered females die of it before 5 years of age). Extremely territorial, some can be very aggressive, the intensity is often higher than a buck. You have to deal often with 'false pregnancies' where she will pull out large chunks of fur, nest, and get moody and extra-territorial, often for mont
01:53 TheNewDeal fucking false pregnancies
01:53 cazalla yeah, they're aggressive
01:53 cazalla females will fuck the males too
01:54 TheNewDeal why did you decide on rabbits?
01:56 cazalla they don't take up much room (i have a run for them so they can dig, eat grass though), cheap to feed and the meat is lean
01:57 cazalla i'll show ya a pic
01:58 benkay lean meat?
01:58 benkay what is this us brainwashing against fat
01:58 benkay fat is good for you.
01:58 benkay i miss the cream in argentina.
01:58 benkay it's downright viscous.
01:58 benkay !up Vexual
01:59 Vexual rabbit is one of the most delicious things to eat
01:59 cazalla http://i.imgur.com/oQQPD7f.jpg
02:00 TheNewDeal jeezus mp, there 23 footnotes in this article
02:00 Vexual not much grass there cazalla
02:00 TheNewDeal cazalla they cant hop over that fence on the right?
02:01 cazalla Vexual: they get out and go up the side, more grass there but they get all sorts of food from us
02:01 cazalla TheNewDeal: they probably could but none are yet to try
02:02 TheNewDeal they look so tasty and full of albinism
02:02 cazalla compared to a commerical rabbitry, they have it pretty good
02:03 Vexual i could just sip brut cuvee and smell that slow cooker for hours
02:04 cazalla yeah, kitchen smells of cab sav, garlic, rosemary, tomatoes
02:05 Vexual how long in the slow cooker?
02:06 cazalla 7-8 hours on low
02:06 Vexual oh
02:06 cazalla you can do quicker in oven, 90mins but veggies aren't as good
02:07 Vexual i like to slow cook
02:09 Vexual the way the flavours develop
02:09 Vexual dyou ever get goat?
02:09 cazalla i've had it but not for a while
02:10 Vexual chuck some cumin in and drink shiraz til its done
02:22 Vexual on selecting and enjoying brut curvee:
02:23 Vexual this guide is not for you, but read it anyaway
02:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00007052 = 0.2116 BTC [-] {2}
02:25 Vexual dear reader, theres a grape with a name, from some faggoty hill in france, but its not about a time or a place or a name face or a taste or a style
02:26 Vexual well it might be a taste
02:27 Vexual i don't claim to be expert
02:28 Vexual it is a fucking taste
02:29 Mats_cd03 ur gay
02:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21234 @ 0.00085325 = 18.1179 BTC [-]
02:35 benkay there's gotta be good soil down in ars
02:35 benkay just have to find it is all.
02:44 Mats_cd03 https://soundcloud.com/disclosuremusic/frontin-pharrell-ft-jay-z-disclosure-re-work
02:44 assbot Frontin' - Pharrell ft. Jay Z (Disclosure Re-Work) by Disclosure on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds
02:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4528 @ 0.00085325 = 3.8635 BTC [-]
02:51 Mats_cd03 https://soundcloud.com/electricyouthmusic/innocence
02:51 assbot Electric Youth - Innocence by Electric Youth (Official) on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds
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03:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00085446 = 15.6366 BTC [+] {2}
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03:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 200 @ 0.04405928 = 8.8119 BTC [-]
03:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00085242 = 14.9174 BTC [-] {2}
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03:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0203 = 0.1624 BTC [+]
04:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.25741559 = 0.7722 BTC [-] {2}
04:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.25335334 = 0.7601 BTC [-] {2}
04:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.24378666 = 2.1941 BTC [-] {3}
04:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.242 = 2.42 BTC [-]
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04:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00085449 = 20.0378 BTC [+]
04:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.241 BTC [-]
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04:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00085471 = 15.6412 BTC [+] {2}
04:51 FabianB mpexbot is gone?
04:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26899 BTC [+]
04:59 FabianB kakobrekla: can you include former mpexbot commands $depth, $vwap and $proxies into assbot ?
05:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.0008522 = 14.6578 BTC [-]
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05:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.0008522 = 29.4009 BTC [-]
05:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0737 = 0.4422 BTC [-]
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06:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1975 @ 0.00085501 = 1.6886 BTC [+]
06:10 dub is that a fucking parallel port on mp's laptop?
06:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00085501 = 16.2452 BTC [+]
06:13 dub and why is there a small boat next to him on the couch
06:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00085501 = 8.5073 BTC [+]
06:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00085571 = 19.3818 BTC [+] {3}
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07:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00085216 = 10.0555 BTC [-] {4}
07:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.07451065 = 1.1177 BTC [+] {5}
07:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14541 @ 0.00085152 = 12.382 BTC [-]
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07:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16757 @ 0.00085014 = 14.2458 BTC [-] {2}
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08:26 pankkake http://www.coindesk.com/nine-best-cryptocurrency-tattoos/ :|
08:26 assbot Nine of the Best Cryptocurrency Tattoos
08:35 fluffypony LOL
08:35 fluffypony Bitcoin Life
08:35 fluffypony lol!!!
08:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11463 @ 0.00085043 = 9.7485 BTC [+] {2}
08:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.07475576 = 0.9718 BTC [+] {2}
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09:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07476 = 0.7476 BTC [+]
09:10 thestringpuller ;;seen BingoBoingo
09:10 gribble BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 6 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> Vexual: Everything is abnormal and everything is great
09:11 thestringpuller ;;later tell BingoBoingo was out cold
09:11 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02394 = 0.1197 BTC [-]
09:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.0200005 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2}
09:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.02323145 = 0.3717 BTC [-] {5}
09:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18337 @ 0.00085424 = 15.6642 BTC [+]
09:35 thestringpuller !mpif
09:35 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021721 BTC (Total: 434.44 BTC)
09:35 thestringpuller !last m f.mpif
09:35 assbot Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+]
09:35 thestringpuller !ticker m f.mpif
09:35 assbot [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021599 / 0.00021725 (15651 shares, 3.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021709 / 0.00021726 (124310 shares, 26.99 BTC)
09:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 240 @ 0.04405928 = 10.5742 BTC [-]
09:39 kakobrekla !mpif
09:39 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021721 BTC (Total: 434.44 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+]
09:39 kakobrekla added !last to !mpif call
09:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7909 @ 0.00085029 = 6.7249 BTC [-]
10:03 thestringpuller !last mpif
10:03 assbot Have you got any tobacco?
10:04 thestringpuller oh
10:04 thestringpuller !mpif
10:04 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021721 BTC (Total: 434.43 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+]
10:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.09 = 0.18 BTC [-]
10:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00085101 = 2.0424 BTC [+]
10:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.0268 = 0.1608 BTC [-]
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10:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0747 = 0.2241 BTC [-]
10:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12609 @ 0.00084984 = 10.7156 BTC [-] {2}
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11:21 mircea_popescu someonme should make a cheese flavbour chewing gum
11:23 mircea_popescu benkay: i miss the cream in argentina. << dude you have no idea what cream is. go to transylvania, have some, let me know.
11:24 mircea_popescu the cream here is like... okay. tolerable.
11:27 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal: jeezus mp, there 23 footnotes in this article << I'm the king of the footnotes, the references V.I.P
11:31 mircea_popescu I reached the top and had to stop and that's what bothering me
11:33 mircea_popescu Vexual: i like to slow cook the way the flavours develop << aye.
11:35 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mircea-popescu-is-an-asshole/
11:35 dignork https://www.startjoin.com/trollc this will end in tears
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11:37 mircea_popescu benkay: there's gotta be good soil down in ars << good soil requires three to six millenia's worth of menarche spilled on it. argentina soil will get there right about year 6000
11:39 mircea_popescu FabianB: mpexbot is gone? << smickles kinda disappeared sadly. would you like to run a mpexbot clone ?
11:40 mircea_popescu dub: is that a fucking parallel port on mp's laptop? << some peeps are old skool like that dubsy. you wouldn't understand.
11:41 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: added !last to !mpif call << pretty cool.
11:43 mircea_popescu !up Littlep1
11:43 Littlep1 ^^
11:43 mircea_popescu and who might you be ?
11:43 Littlep1 Malcolm
11:43 kakobrekla wait so the dude did take mpex offline or am i reading this wrong
11:44 Littlep1 ;;auth Littlep1
11:44 gribble Error: You have not registered a GPG key. Try using bcauth instead, or register a GPG key first.
11:44 kakobrekla i mean the proxyies or smth
11:44 mircea_popescu kakobrekla for some definition of offline
11:44 FabianB mircea_popescu: assbot only lacks 3 commands, if kakobrekla doesn't like to integrate them i can run an mpexbot clone, but i'd prefer the assbot route
11:44 Littlep1 ;;bcauth Littlep1
11:44 gribble Request successful for user Littlep1, hostmask Littlep1!56b01083@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.176.16.131. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:24085ba1a630433bf9128bdd9cb371bdf715a1d6151ef7edb327f8d2
11:44 mircea_popescu FabianB meanwhile i'd prefer two bots. what if kako gets sick one day
11:44 kakobrekla yeah ill put them on
11:45 fluffypony I wanna be a man, man cub
11:45 mircea_popescu (also i'll pay for teh hosting of it)
11:45 fluffypony and roll right into town
11:45 * fluffypony sings
11:45 mircea_popescu fluffypony great cartoon eh
11:45 fluffypony now I have that stuck in my head
11:45 kakobrekla whats the url to that stuff again
11:45 fluffypony it's among my favourites
11:46 mircea_popescu http://mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth.php ?
11:46 kakobrekla aha k
11:46 Littlep1 ;;msg +mircea_popescu Thank you
11:46 gribble Error: "msg" is not a valid command.
11:46 FabianB mircea_popescu: hosting costs are not an issue, let me think about it; maybe we can do both, an mpexbot clone and kako integrating the missing commands as well (so an irc client doesn't have to rely on both)
11:46 mircea_popescu yup
11:46 kakobrekla Littlep1 less syntax
11:47 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust Littlep1
11:47 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Littlep1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=Littlep1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Littlep1 | Rated since: Sun Jun 8 09:51:05 2014
11:47 Littlep1 :) I am not ashamed to say I have no clue what the hell is going on
11:47 mircea_popescu o i c.
11:47 mircea_popescu lol
11:47 FabianB kakobrekla: /mpex-mktdepth.php, /mpex-vwap.php
11:47 mircea_popescu ;;google towlie
11:47 gribble Towelie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towelie>; South Park Towlie on Drugs - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSEkfqlDilU>; Towelie's Best Moments - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77TbTNRQFNY>
11:48 Littlep1 By the grace of god with the few brain cells in my head im going to crack this thing
11:48 kakobrekla yes the vwap is already implemented FabianB , that is the ticker cmd
11:48 Littlep1 or my skull
11:49 FabianB kakobrekla: yeah, but not with raw json
11:49 mircea_popescu Littlep1 so what do you do, other than btctardstalk
11:49 kakobrekla Littlep1 this box you seen on the screen, you type stuff in and everyone that is connected in that box can see
11:49 Littlep1 I see how do i Pm then ?
11:50 mircea_popescu /query name
11:50 FabianB kakobrekla: if mpex.co is down and mpex only reachable by ircbots traders want to know the full orderbook (depth) and raw vwap
11:50 kakobrekla waddayamean raw vwap
11:50 kakobrekla ticker has it all no?
11:51 kakobrekla im not talking about depth now
11:51 mircea_popescu !t m s.mpoe
11:51 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00084612 / 0.00085343 / 0.00085939 (640220 shares, 546.39 BTC), 7D: 0.00079351 / 0.00085994 / 0.0008834 (5312758 shares, 4,568.65 BTC), 30D: 0.00079351 / 0.00090996 / 0.00101 (25156123 shares, 22,891.24 BTC)
11:51 FabianB kakobrekla: for all simbols (and parseable)
11:51 kakobrekla want it snailmailed too?
11:51 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: why you lookin' up towelie?
11:51 mircea_popescu lol
11:52 thestringpuller are you a towel?
11:52 mircea_popescu thestringpuller well this guy was like "i have no idea what's going on"
11:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.02689996 = 0.1614 BTC [+] {2}
11:52 thestringpuller cause he's a towel!
11:52 Littlep1 hahaha
11:52 thestringpuller "no you're a towel"
11:52 FabianB kakobrekla: mpexbot used to make a pastie with a copy of the json
11:52 Littlep1 Not watched SP in ages
11:52 mircea_popescu i am 12 and what's a towel.
11:52 kakobrekla FabianB ok that i can do
11:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.02699977 = 0.135 BTC [+]
11:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00084804 = 26.0348 BTC [-] {2}
11:54 mircea_popescu 1.) mircea_popescu 1753 2.) assbot 1632 dat assbot, putting up an amazing fight
11:54 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
11:55 mircea_popescu ty.
11:55 mircea_popescu but irrespective of your amazing powers of resistence, you will be ass imiliated.
11:55 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
11:56 assbot fuck you
11:56 mircea_popescu llol
11:56 mircea_popescu 1.) assbot 7081 2.) mircea_popescu 7015 THIS INIQUITY CAN NOT STAND!
11:58 FabianB mircea_popescu: do you have the code of mpexbot?
11:59 Littlep1 /msg <kakobrekla> <test 4 did you get this pm ?>
11:59 Littlep1 -_-
11:59 kakobrekla nope
11:59 Littlep1 omg
11:59 mircea_popescu i will just as soon as smickles gets back online ;/
11:59 mircea_popescu FabianB ima shoot him an email.
11:59 kakobrekla Littlep1 perhaps you can double click my name from the list and type something in there
11:59 kakobrekla if anything happens
11:59 mircea_popescu that works in webirc ?
11:59 Littlep1 this is so embarrassing
12:00 kakobrekla i think so
12:00 mircea_popescu Littlep1 AND it's being recorded for all prosterity.
12:00 kakobrekla dunno
12:00 FabianB mircea_popescu: ah, great, well, if not we can rewrite it, but not unless needed
12:00 Littlep1 hahhaha
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.86802792 BTC to 8`734 shares, 21388 satoshi per share
12:00 Littlep1 at least your making sure I have a good time
12:00 Littlep1 i'm going to force each one of my brokers to get this done after me and watch them all suffer
12:00 kakobrekla anyway, remove the space before / and all the < and > you typed, then it should werk
12:01 Littlep1 kk thnkx ill try again
12:01 kakobrekla if it throws an error try "/query kakobrekla" instead of whatever else
12:02 mircea_popescu !up nullbyte
12:03 Littlep1 did th...hmm it says no such nick/channel
12:03 kakobrekla well i dunno
12:03 kakobrekla im not a webchat expert!
12:04 kakobrekla well, great success nao
12:04 Littlep1 THANK YOU ^^
12:04 kakobrekla step 1 complete
12:04 kakobrekla you have still a few min left to complete the rest 399 steps
12:05 kakobrekla http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation
12:05 assbot wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki]
12:05 mircea_popescu lol
12:05 kakobrekla no wrong link
12:05 kakobrekla http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
12:05 assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]
12:05 Littlep1 :)
12:05 kakobrekla this one
12:05 Littlep1 This is like my right of passage
12:05 Littlep1 mircea you won't remember but i sent you a Pm i think last year thanking you ^^
12:06 mircea_popescu where ?
12:06 Littlep1 If your the same person I think you are on Bitcoin talk
12:07 mircea_popescu a, that was mpoe-pr
12:07 mircea_popescu lol dude stop pming me
12:07 Littlep1 sorry
12:08 kakobrekla i taught him that.
12:08 Littlep1 ahahahha
12:08 Littlep1 for the world to know foreverr
12:08 mircea_popescu lol sabotage
12:08 Littlep1 God you must all be so funny in real life
12:09 Littlep1 You literally have had me laughing my ass off over here
12:10 kakobrekla yeah well read the logs
12:10 kakobrekla :p
12:10 kakobrekla ;;topic
12:10 gribble http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com
12:10 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlMoDUBIg00
12:10 assbot That's NOT funny!!! - YouTube
12:11 Littlep1 mircea_popescu I are you liked to Mpex ?
12:11 mircea_popescu i am well liked and admired by my subjects yes
12:11 mircea_popescu what was the question ?
12:12 Littlep1 Just curious recently i made a post on Bitcoin talk to list all fradualent compaines i'm creating a list of corproate failres ect ect and people were accusing Mpex of false volumes or something. Some users equally defended Mpex reqesting proof
12:12 Littlep1 omfg
12:13 Littlep1 linked to Mpex *
12:13 mircea_popescu a. yes, we share some initials.
12:13 Littlep1 ^^ :)
12:13 Littlep1 If i ever meet you
12:13 Littlep1 im buying you a drink
12:13 mircea_popescu pretty good famous last words.
12:14 kakobrekla you know, i could up him.
12:14 mircea_popescu trying to decide which way is funnier
12:14 mircea_popescu !up Littlep1
12:14 kakobrekla was just about to dice it.
12:15 Littlep1 I'm aliveeee
12:15 mircea_popescu can you chain actions on gribble's dice ?
12:15 kakobrekla prolly i could
12:15 mircea_popescu Littlep1 you can meet me next year. http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/
12:16 assbot The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
12:16 mircea_popescu kakobrekla do this thing : !dup Littlep1 results in assbot going ;;dice and upping on heads
12:16 mircea_popescu ;;coin
12:16 kakobrekla hm
12:16 gribble tails
12:16 mircea_popescu i mean
12:17 kakobrekla not sure whats the point of gribble, dont you trust my pnrg??
12:17 mircea_popescu for display
12:17 mircea_popescu so the noob sees it lol
12:17 kakobrekla posterity
12:17 Littlep1 :)
12:17 Littlep1 i'm not ashamed I know what I am
12:17 kakobrekla imma go out now, later.
12:17 Littlep1 thanks again mate
12:18 mircea_popescu holy shit kako goes out now ?!
12:18 mircea_popescu how long have i been asleep!
12:18 kakobrekla dun worry its not too far.
12:18 Littlep1 xD
12:18 mircea_popescu aok
12:21 Littlep1 I'll study that guide and give it a go later. Interesting I often read the Trilema blog back in the day
12:23 mircea_popescu what day was that ?
12:23 mircea_popescu and who were you on btctalk -pr wants to know ?
12:25 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust bitstein
12:25 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user bitstein: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=bitstein | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitstein | Rated since: Thu May 29 11:37:42 2014
12:25 Littlep1 Malcolm .. oh wait Little P bit
12:25 mircea_popescu ;;later tell bitstein re http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/#comment-100549 remind me, which service do you run ?
12:25 assbot The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
12:25 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:26 Littlep1 Little P 1
12:26 Littlep1 is my bitcoin talk adde
12:26 mircea_popescu aite.
12:26 Littlep1 Pr put a post up about crypto start ups in 2013
12:27 Littlep1 and i thought it was really good so I sent him/her a pm thanking them since I made use of it when setting up my own
12:27 mircea_popescu aha
12:27 mircea_popescu so what crypto start-up is this ?
12:28 Littlep1 It's only small im trying to create crypto investment products in the UK its called Cryptovest
12:28 Littlep1 Cryptovest Financial Services
12:29 mircea_popescu what's your background ?
12:29 Littlep1 My hope is to educate more non techy people on getting involved with crypto currencies
12:29 Littlep1 banking
12:29 Littlep1 private equity
12:29 Littlep1 asset managment
12:29 pankkake http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-06-2014#707655
12:29 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
12:29 Littlep1 risk analysis
12:29 mircea_popescu Littlep1 that's vague. specifically, what;s your background.
12:29 Littlep1 sorry not Cryptovest
12:30 Littlep1 search me on google dude wait do u mind if I pm you now ?
12:30 mircea_popescu yes. i don't carry private conversations with people i don't know.
12:30 mircea_popescu i'm sure anything you want to say to me can be said here as well.
12:30 Littlep1 Yea i guess
12:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11162 @ 0.00084778 = 9.4629 BTC [-] {2}
12:31 Littlep1 give me a moment ill find you a link
12:33 Littlep1 http://wiki.timetotrade.eu/Malcolm_Oluwasanmi
12:33 assbot Malcolm Oluwasanmi - timetotrade
12:34 Littlep1 what did assbot just do did it reach the code and then auto post under it
12:34 Littlep1 I have alot to learn
12:34 mircea_popescu yea
12:35 Littlep1 Right thats alot from when i spoke about bitcoin to some HNW investors
12:35 Littlep1 http://wiki.timetotrade.eu/National_Investment_Club_Conference
12:35 assbot National Investment Club Conference - timetotrade
12:36 Littlep1 Mostly spoke about volatile , hedging , methods to reduce risks with exotic currencies and applying the same methods to crypto currencies with the application of a risk engine.
12:37 Littlep1 volatility*
12:37 mircea_popescu a so you worked for bri and then went out on your own
12:37 Littlep1 nope
12:37 Littlep1 then i wen
12:37 Littlep1 give me a moment
12:38 Littlep1 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=malcolm+oluwasanmi
12:38 assbot Let me google that for you
12:38 Littlep1 I was still at University then so i set up a University Investment fund in 2011
12:39 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: If I remember correctly bitstein does something with the Satoshi institute.
12:39 Littlep1 In 2012 we created an alternative investment fund not much and with that we focused on arb strategies with crypto currencies around 2013
12:40 Littlep1 Then i stumbled on a way to get around the counter party risk element and decided to leave my job at Lloydsbank
12:40 Littlep1 to raise the funding to operate it full time
12:41 Littlep1 im still a noob but im trying
12:42 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo o right you are
12:42 mircea_popescu ;;later tell bitstein nm BingoBoingo got me
12:42 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:43 Littlep1 what operation is gribble talking about ?
12:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00084957 = 7.5187 BTC [+]
12:44 BingoBoingo Littlep1: Lodging a message to deliver later.
12:45 BingoBoingo !up Littlep1
12:46 mircea_popescu !up userguy243
12:46 mircea_popescu Littlep1 can you prove your bmi connection ?
12:46 Littlep1 Do u mean BRI ?
12:47 mircea_popescu yes
12:47 Littlep1 hmmmyou could always call them and ask :s
12:47 Littlep1 or drop them an email
12:47 mircea_popescu aite.
12:47 Littlep1 its on my CV
12:47 Littlep1 and on Linked in
12:47 Littlep1 they were not that ig jsut about 750 mil
12:47 Littlep1 big*
12:47 Littlep1 But it was a lovely place to work
12:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02394809 = 0.2395 BTC [+] {3}
12:48 mircea_popescu ;;later tell moiety hey, when you're back please call http://www.brigroup.co.uk/ ask them if a certain mr Malcolm Oluwasanmi that used to work there left you any kind of message.
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12:48 assbot BRI Wealth Management - Investment & Portfolio Management
12:48 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:48 mircea_popescu Littlep1 so leave moiety a message.
12:49 Littlep1 left them any kind of message?
12:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0747 = 0.5229 BTC [-]
12:49 mircea_popescu well yes
12:49 Littlep1 What does that mean ?
12:49 Littlep1 I used to work there years ago
12:49 Littlep1 I didn't leave a message
12:49 mircea_popescu right right, but looky here
12:49 Littlep1 just a few coffe stains
12:49 mircea_popescu anyone can claim they worked in x place years ago.
12:49 mircea_popescu we're trying to verify this
12:49 mircea_popescu and you proposed i call them
12:50 Littlep1 meh ok go for it.
12:50 mircea_popescu well unless you also get in touch with them it'll fail and i'll go "oh, littlep is that guy that tried to impersonate Malcolm Oluwasanmi on irc one day"
12:50 Littlep1 meh ok go for it.i have not spoken with them in a while though mention I was black that might spark their memory
12:51 Littlep1 they will be like Malcolm who >.>
12:51 mircea_popescu gotta have a hr dept no ?
12:51 Littlep1 ahhhh the tall dark handsome one
12:51 Littlep1 it was pretty small i'm sure they will recall me many of them are on my linked in connections still
12:51 mircea_popescu yes but step with me here : i'm not trying to verify a black guy by x name worked there at some point.
12:51 mircea_popescu im trying to verifyYOU're that black guy.
12:52 Littlep1 I know a way you can do it do you have skype ?
12:52 mircea_popescu so give them a call and ask em to please say hi to moiety if she calls for you.
12:52 Littlep1 moiety ?
12:52 mircea_popescu moiety does. she's our secretary.
12:52 userguy243 thanks for the voice mircea
12:52 mircea_popescu sure
12:52 Littlep1 Do I pronounce it Mo - etty ?
12:53 Littlep1 I will just drop them an email. It has been over 3-4 years
12:53 mircea_popescu works
12:53 Littlep1 In fact that will work for you as well send them an email
12:53 Littlep1 ask for Paul my old boss to verify if Malcolm O ever used to work there
12:53 mircea_popescu i dont trustemails.
12:53 Apocalyptic you're missing the point
12:54 Littlep1 are you trying to be smart :) and promote the WOT
12:54 Littlep1 okok ill get to it
12:54 Littlep1 this week
12:54 Littlep1 il even try to crack GPG or w.e its called
12:55 Littlep1 i thought i registred this wallet with gribble
12:55 Littlep1 but the guide on bitoin assets wiki looks much better
12:55 Littlep1 but if u ever do want to prove who I am... call me on skype add Cryptovest
12:55 Littlep1 also if u ever need to hedge the BTC price
12:56 Littlep1 to make an order in the future like buy a house or a car ect
12:56 Littlep1 or hedge your mining rig hosting costs
12:57 Littlep1 i have nothing to hide
12:57 mircea_popescu sorta like x.eur ?
12:57 * Littlep1 stands and pretends to understand what x.eur means
12:58 mircea_popescu !t m x.eur
12:58 assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00206766 / 0.00212705 / 0.00216962 (3761 shares, 8.00 BTC), 30D: 0.0019005 / 0.00248318 / 0.0031169 (11792 shares, 29.28 BTC)
12:58 mircea_popescu you can also read the contracton mpex/discussion on trilema
13:00 Littlep1 erm i have like 4 people pming me about hedging services
13:00 Littlep1 im still new to this chat so please bear with me
13:00 fluffypony oh Littlep1 is the one that commented on my Lilac Breasted Usagi bird video
13:00 * fluffypony just made the connection
13:00 Littlep1 HEY FLUFFY XD
13:01 fluffypony necro'd thread of the day: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80141.0;all
13:01 assbot Announcing GPUMoney, Monetize Your Gaming! GPUMoney.com
13:04 Littlep1 yes that was me lol
13:04 Littlep1 I couldnt stop laugthing I thought i was going to die. I fell off my chair when i realised what you had done
13:05 Littlep1 he sent me an email about the corporate failures list threatening to sue me
13:05 Apocalyptic usagi ?
13:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.00240155 = 0.2113 BTC [-] {2}
13:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.24208859 = 2.4209 BTC [-] {3}
13:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00085011 = 15.557 BTC [+] {2}
13:06 mircea_popescu fucking "smart" peripherals and fuckingidiots making them
13:07 mircea_popescu so thos monitor keeps thinking it knows better what resolution to run on than me
13:07 mircea_popescu soon the keyboards will come with word replacementchips and im going tostart using small arms on random people.
13:07 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/21ZDZ9P.txt )
13:07 BingoBoingo !b 3
13:08 xmj benkay: you around?
13:08 pankkake didn't apple invent it already? autocorrect without asking you
13:08 mircea_popescu Littlep1 i wouldn't worry too much, he already sold his guitar in 2013
13:09 pankkake because they knowbetter than you
13:09 mircea_popescu pankkake if it did i was blisfully unaware
13:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00085042 = 4.1245 BTC [+] {3}
13:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.242 = 1.694 BTC [-]
13:15 mircea_popescu http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-24/ << not bad write-up at all
13:15 assbot On MaidSafe's futility, and on Daniel Larimer's ignorance
13:17 mircea_popescu "Mom and pop get arrested for, what, receiving a note and having time or energy or impetus to check?"
13:17 mircea_popescu missing a negative there
13:18 * fluffypony checks
13:18 fluffypony ah
13:18 fluffypony fail
13:19 fluffypony k fixed
13:20 mircea_popescu ;;dexx7 http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-24/#comment-1361730776 << you should make your own blogyou know.
13:20 assbot On MaidSafe's futility, and on Daniel Larimer's ignorance
13:20 gribble Error: "dexx7" is not a valid command.
13:20 mircea_popescu ;;later tell dexx7 http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-24/#comment-1361730776 << you should make your own blogyou know.
13:20 assbot On MaidSafe's futility, and on Daniel Larimer's ignorance
13:20 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:20 mircea_popescu "He later backtracked over his statement later saying it was out-of-context"
13:20 mircea_popescu gotta proof yo
13:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10098 @ 0.00085105 = 8.5939 BTC [+] {2}
13:22 * fluffypony link is fucked, will fix, but it's linked straight after that statement - https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=4090.msg54901#msg54901
13:22 assbot MaidSafe IPO on Mastercoin - page 11 - General Discussion - BitShares Forum
13:24 mircea_popescu also that show more thing is annoying if you ask me
13:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07352183 = 0.2206 BTC [-] {2}
13:24 mircea_popescu !up realzies
13:29 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo turns out rabite decided to go derp instead. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2014#708384
13:29 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
13:30 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I saw and was saddened.
13:30 mircea_popescu people can't think.
13:31 mircea_popescu anyway, i won't touch it now, so i guess time for publishin' archives.
13:34 fluffypony hmmmm - just discovered that with ssls.com (where I get all my cheap Comodo domain validation certs from) all of their domain validation certs are 2048-bit key length max
13:34 BingoBoingo ;;google site:trilema.com art of punishment
13:34 gribble The bitchslapping of 2013… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/the-bitchslapping-of-2013>; Economic cycles finally explained pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/economic-cycles-finally-explained/>; La Florida and other places pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/>
13:34 fluffypony where can I get a domain validation cert that allows 4096-bit or 8192-bit? don't want an EV or OV cert
13:37 mircea_popescu there's reallyno solutions ot the pki crap.
13:37 mircea_popescu drop https, basically.
13:39 fluffypony yeah this is ridiculous
13:39 benkay <Littlep1> il even try to crack GPG or w.e its called // http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130809163709/vampirediaries/images/0/02/Kool-aid-man.jpg
13:39 fluffypony my choices are self-signed 4096-bit or EV, fuck EV
13:40 davout fluffypony: what's wrong with EV + signed key?
13:40 davout best of both worlds
13:40 davout also nice blog post
13:41 fluffypony davout: too much time required for what is supposed to be a relatively simple experiment
13:41 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2014/i-saw-and-was-saddened/ there you go
13:41 assbot “I saw, and was saddened.” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
13:41 mircea_popescu and i trust you've seen your signed damages statement ?
13:41 fluffypony I wouldn't mind the cost if they processed stuff 24 hours a day and I got a cert within minutes
13:41 fluffypony and thanks
13:41 mircea_popescu or ritalin with everyorder.
13:42 davout the last ev cert i got was ridiculous
13:42 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Indeed. I'm working on a blog post atm addressing the legal situation.
13:42 davout "we need to verify your phone number is the actual phone number for the company"
13:42 mircea_popescu "so look it up" ?
13:43 davout "so if you could please register your company in that online directory that doesn't check shit whatsoever, that'd be great"
13:43 mircea_popescu !up bitcoinhtx
13:43 fluffypony davout: "and then we'll get back to you within 3-7 working days"
13:43 mircea_popescu why do you people even put up with this shit is beyond me
13:43 davout "please fill a web form on some unrelated site"
13:43 mircea_popescu just so some forum tards possessed of .1 btc don't bitch about your "very poor security" which they don't grok ?
13:44 davout fluffypony: in this case it was relatively quick and painless
13:44 davout but also useless
13:44 davout on the subject of not groking security andreas derpopoulos is the fucking best
13:45 mircea_popescu whatever you do empowers whoever you're doing it with. when you fill in some webform for the retardation, you strengthen the retardation.
13:45 mircea_popescu "even davout uses our system"
13:45 mircea_popescu what then ?
13:45 fluffypony hah hah
13:45 fluffypony "AS USED BY DAVOUT" splashed across the front page
13:45 mircea_popescu ayup
13:45 davout bah
13:45 mircea_popescu "davout got his start in his early days from our company"
13:46 davout oh boy
13:46 mircea_popescu yes well. there be consequences.
13:46 fluffypony consequences will never be the same
13:46 davout would you download a consequence?
13:46 fluffypony you dun goof'd
13:47 mircea_popescu <fluffypony> "AS USED BY DAVOUT" splashed across the front page << and you know the only reason - and i do mean the ONLY reason - this is not happening right now is because he's not big enough yet.
13:48 fluffypony yep
13:51 mircea_popescu "Davos: I turned down an invitation to speak at the World Economic Congress in Davos (for no honorarium) – in spite of the argument for “interaction with global leaders” (they sent me a list of hotshots: almost no one worth having conversation with). I’d rather spend time working in a café, with real people around."
13:59 mircea_popescu pity he doesn't have an irc chan to invite them to move over (for no honorarium)
14:00 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/i-saw-and-was-saddened/
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14:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00085067 = 16.4179 BTC [-] {2}
14:32 benkay morning, princessnell
14:32 princessnell hey benkay. how's it going?
14:33 BingoBoingo http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/08/inconvenience/
14:33 assbot Inconvenience | Bingo Blog
14:35 penguirker New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/08/inconvenience/
14:35 benkay rather well, princessnell. things are cooking. yourself?
14:38 fluffypony penguirker is getting faster
14:38 fluffypony :-P
14:38 princessnell good to hear. all's well with me.
14:39 BingoBoingo fluffypony: It is taking its time doing so though
14:40 fluffypony BingoBoingo: pankkake should rewrite it using Swift and then host it on iCloud and use push notifications from blogs
14:40 fluffypony problem solved
14:42 pankkake blogs.b-a polls every 7 minutes, and sends to irc immediately
14:42 pankkake there are ping/subscribe systems, but it doesn't support it
14:43 mthreat BingoBoingo: Just read your blog post. It's a common negotiating technique to use the "I want to do X but my superior won't let me", making you feel like you're in the same side against his superior.
14:43 mthreat BingoBoingo: You could file a motion for speedy trial, which should force them to hold it within 90 days (in the US)
14:44 kakobrekla lol https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg7196350#msg7196350
14:44 assbot Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock]
14:44 BingoBoingo mthreat: Of course. The thing is I'm not seeking a risky trial in front of a jury full of idiots.
14:44 mthreat BingoBoingo: and they probably know that
14:45 BingoBoingo mthreat: The thing is I know they don't want a trial either.
14:45 mircea_popescu resurected again ?!
14:46 mircea_popescu lol reselling .1 btc worth of "information"
14:46 kakobrekla resurrected in a sense they are again lookin at where the moneies gone
14:46 kakobrekla yeah
14:46 kakobrekla its pretty funnie
14:46 mircea_popescu anywya, im out. laters.
14:46 kakobrekla cya
14:50 jurov Littlep1: http://explo.yt/post/2013/12/16/All-about-X.EUR-future-on-MPEx
14:50 assbot All about X.EUR future on MPEx - serialized delusions
14:51 kakobrekla he is down btw
14:57 kakobrekla !up Swadq
14:57 kakobrekla fuckin assbot
14:58 CheckDavid kakobrekla: how is that fpga project going?
14:58 kakobrekla hum?
14:59 kakobrekla you know people have asics now
14:59 CheckDavid I do.
14:59 CheckDavid But I am involved with an FPGA project
15:00 CheckDavid For mining
15:00 CheckDavid Not much for sha2 though
15:00 CheckDavid More like scrypt and other algos
15:00 kakobrekla !up Swadq
15:01 kakobrekla !up Swadq
15:01 kakobrekla now you can talk here as well.
15:01 Swadq Great, thank you :)
15:01 kakobrekla CheckDavid well im not the expert on the matter.
15:02 kakobrekla anyway this is Swadq , some new bitcoin blood, he made a tipping bot or something and thats all i know
15:02 Swadq Hello guys :)
15:03 kakobrekla anyway you asked what is the purpuse of this chan, nobody knows but if you are going to be in one, be in this one.
15:04 Swadq Ha, fair enough! Thank you
15:04 Swadq I was just reading over bitcoin-assets.com
15:04 Swadq I’m not entirely sure what the “how to get listed” section is referring to
15:04 kakobrekla its not for you prolly then
15:05 kakobrekla :)
15:05 Swadq Fair enough - is it something to do with adding a new exchange to the bot?
15:05 kakobrekla something like that yea
15:06 Swadq Are you the op here, then?
15:07 kakobrekla http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/
15:07 assbot #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
15:08 Swadq Thank you
15:17 BingoBoingo %ticker
15:17 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 144 Ask: 270 Last Price: 273 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A
15:18 BingoBoingo %book
15:18 atcbot 40k@278 28k@277 2k@270 | 4k@144 50k@143 175k@142
15:18 BingoBoingo %diff
15:18 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 130223.83 in 1902 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -81.80
15:24 CheckDavid kakobrekla: you know what the good thing about FPGAs is?
15:24 CheckDavid They can mine multiple algorithms
15:25 CheckDavid And be repurposed easily for any other coin mining
15:29 fluffypony AND they're slow and expensive
15:29 fluffypony so win win win, really
15:29 fluffypony (relatively slow)
15:34 benkay !up Swadq what we need is a coin tuned for fpga and cpu architectures
15:34 chetty http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/computer-becomes-first-to-pass-turing-test-in-artificial-intelligence-milestone-but-academics-warn-of-dangerous-future-9508370.html
15:34 assbot Computer becomes first to pass Turing Test in artificial intelligence milestone, but academics warn of dangerous future - Gadgets and Tech - Life & Style - The Independent
15:35 jurov lol just wanted to past it
15:36 kakobrekla > It convinced 33 per cent of the judges that it was human,
15:36 kakobrekla how is this a pass
15:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00085015 = 3.4006 BTC [-]
15:37 jurov benkay such coin would be only feasible if it often completely and unpredictably changed its algoritm
15:40 BingoBoingo http://www.zdnet.com/thanks-for-nothing-jerkface-7000030306/
15:40 assbot Thanks for nothing, jerkface | ZDNet
15:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27050 @ 0.00084809 = 22.9408 BTC [-] {3}
15:46 jurov ;;bc,stats
15:46 gribble Current Blocks: 304843 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1588 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 19 hours, 15 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
15:46 benkay chetty: did you read the one about bots accumulating piles of followers?
15:46 benkay (on twitter, that is)
15:47 xmj bots following bots?
15:50 chetty benkay, yeah, bots are better than ppls, I believe it
15:57 jurov http://www.nature.com/news/environment-accelerate-research-on-land-creation-1.15327 huh,another leap forward?
15:57 assbot Environment: Accelerate research on land creation : Nature News & Comment
15:57 CheckDavid fluffypony: as far as I know they are only slow compared to asics
15:58 fluffypony CheckDavid: depends on the algorithm
15:58 fluffypony shit like X11 and X13 may use less power on an FPGA
15:58 CheckDavid Yes. And how it is programmed into the board
15:59 fluffypony but I would imagine it's a lot harder to write that than wrote it for OpenCL or CUDA
15:59 Naphex o/
16:00 CheckDavid I wish I knew what that was fluffypony
16:03 benkay tests are passing. what was i working on before the tests all went sour?
16:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2425 = 0.485 BTC [+] {2}
16:20 fluffypony CheckDavid: OpenCL and CUDA are for GPU processing
16:21 CheckDavid I see.
16:21 fluffypony and s/wrote/writing
16:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.00084607 = 14.8485 BTC [-] {3}
16:22 kakobrekla !up teward
16:22 * kakobrekla triggered wot police
16:23 teward eheh.... kakobrekla, not really, you triggered the "suspicious" flag for me, usually happens when i'm out of the loop :P
16:24 * teward lurks
16:24 kakobrekla no work, no sin.
16:25 teward :P
16:33 BingoBoingo !up lolstate
16:33 BingoBoingo !up skinnkavaj
16:33 BingoBoingo !up bitcoingirl
16:33 BingoBoingo !up RainMan28
16:33 BingoBoingo !up bitcoingirl
16:33 bitcoingirl thanks!
16:34 bitcoingirl +mircea_popescu you here?
16:34 BingoBoingo I think he took off for a while.
16:35 kakobrekla ;;notes
16:35 gribble I currently have notes waiting for aegis, agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, bcb, bitstein, cevidad, congrats, Immukization, Immuzikkation, jmcorgan, jtrunerbtc, kyledrake, moiety, mr_burdell, MurphyLawn, nubbins, nubbins`i, Phinnaeus, popeofdope, and ryepdx.
16:36 kakobrekla i thought i saw bitcoingirl inthere one of these days
16:36 bitcoingirl I've been here before
16:36 kakobrekla a ok
16:36 bitcoingirl did anyone here with with mircea on the SEC Voorhees case?
16:37 kakobrekla its in the logs
16:37 bitcoingirl idk how to find it
16:37 bitcoingirl it was just settled last week so i doubt there is new material
16:37 jurov ;;google bitcoingirl site:log.bitcoin-assets.com
16:37 gribble NEXT: 21-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2014>; home | log | bash | stats | wiki - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2014>; NEXT: 05-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2014&bots=true>
16:38 kakobrekla its a day or two ago
16:38 kakobrekla iirc
16:38 kakobrekla well that, or im completely spaced out.
16:39 jurov bitcoingirl you prolly want this: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/03/the-sec-bares-its-gums-and-settles-with-erik/
16:39 assbot The SEC Bares its Gums and Settles with Erik | Bingo Blog
16:40 jurov no new info, just our general opinion
16:40 kakobrekla yes and mind, this was posted before coindesk did it!
16:41 kakobrekla !up RainMan28
16:42 kakobrekla RainMan28 you need to be in l2 with assbot to up yourself
16:43 RainMan28 ah ok
16:43 RainMan28 yeah I'm far away from that
16:43 jurov RainMan28: ratings may be cheaper than you think
16:43 kakobrekla eh? nothing in the wot is far.
16:43 jurov such as, do you perchance have active coinbr account?
16:44 chetty bitcoingirl, no, he{s here. give it a few hours
16:44 RainMan28 coinbr? Nope, never heard of them jurov
16:44 kakobrekla no coinbr account? then one must resolve to hookers.
16:44 bitcoingirl what's the general consensus on MPEx becoming an SRO
16:45 kakobrekla the TLD is pending!
16:45 benkay bitcoingirl: MPEx is already an SRO.
16:46 benkay #bitcoin-assets is also an SRO.
16:46 benkay what's up in the air is USG recognizing the above facts.
16:46 bitcoingirl has any government institution around the world delegated authority to it?
16:47 benkay one cannot delegate authority to bitcoin entities. one can only recognize them.
16:47 benkay nobody delegated me a cock, and yet.
16:47 BingoBoingo bitcoingirl: There is a differance between beings, and external recognition of being
16:47 benkay it gets sucked.
16:48 bitcoingirl haha can i quote you on that?
16:48 benkay it's in the public record...
16:48 bitcoingirl what are your thoughts on DATA then?
16:48 jurov also, slovak national bank did it by declaring all virtual currency transactions to be exclusive domain of transacting parties.
16:48 benkay bitcoingirl: DATA?
16:48 jurov ECB did something ike that, too
16:48 bitcoingirl Digital Asset Transfer Authority?
16:49 benkay re DATA: "Patrick Murck, Bitcoin Foundation
16:49 benkay "
16:49 benkay criminals, i guess.
16:49 benkay http://info.datauthority.org/wordpress/blog/2014/03/25/meet-the-data-annual-meeting-speakers/
16:49 assbot Meet the DATA Annual Meeting Speakers | DATA
16:50 benkay voting members: ... "brock pierce" and pedobears.
16:50 jurov evoor and wences are there
16:51 benkay and what authority is this? some self-styled best and first most authoritative source for the terminally blind?
16:52 benkay bitcoingirl: d'you get the drift?
16:52 bitcoingirl ok just asking
16:53 benkay not trying to bite or anything, i'm just asking if you get the picture.
16:53 jurov The Committee for the Establishment... "Nejc Kodrič".."Jered Kenna" i think i made my opinion
16:53 benkay is tradehill even a thing anymore?
16:53 bitcoingirl +benkay - so how was the SEC able to bring charges against voorhees since Mpex is overseas?
16:53 benkay you'll note he was prosecuted for the scam he IPO'd himself, not S.DICE>
16:53 benkay or...should have noted.
16:53 bitcoingirl tradehill is not anything anymore
16:54 benkay so we begin to draw a picture of this DATA thing - they flaunt dead operations as proof of their relevance.
16:55 bitcoingirl i think Kracken and circle are the drivers of the operation
16:55 bitcoingirl patrick just sits on the board as an 'advisor'
16:55 benkay and if i recall correctly, US-ians aren't even allowed to trade on Kraken.
16:55 bitcoingirl but isn't that involved
16:56 benkay it's one of those 'company you keep' things.
16:56 benkay hang out with the scum, get tarred with the brush of scum.
16:57 kakobrekla <jurov> The Committee for the Establishment... "Nejc Kodrič".."Jered Kenna" i think i made my opinion < what the fuck is this shit
16:57 kakobrekla these guys cant even math
16:57 kakobrekla fucking what.
16:57 bitcoingirl do you think the foundation played a part in mt gox?
16:57 jurov kakobrekla: click on "The Announcement"
16:57 benkay DATA and their ilk are the equivalent of soviet or third reich fascist informers.
16:58 benkay glorious heroes in the moment
16:58 benkay reviled traitors for all eternity
16:58 jurov bitcoingirl obviously karpeles was on the board
16:59 jurov and shrem shilled till the last moment
16:59 benkay a better question maybe: what role did the foundation play in supporting the BFL scam?
16:59 benkay and the best question yet: why are any of these fuckers still making noise?
16:59 BingoBoingo benkay: Squandered their Bitcoin for dollars, but still need moar dollars.
17:00 benkay bitcoingirl: do you have enough yet to castrate this whole charade in the mainstream press?
17:02 benkay and i guess more importantly: do you have the reproductive organs to mount the charge?
17:02 bitcoingirl it's certainly frustrating, but I'm focusing on more important matters moving forward
17:02 benkay lol i ain't frustrated, they don't affect me.
17:02 bitcoingirl mount the charge?
17:02 benkay for truth and justice etc
17:03 jurov such as, kenna being serial scammer?
17:03 jurov just to name one of them
17:04 benkay such as foundation soliciting deposits and burning them on trabamborghinis?
17:04 benkay !up bitcoingirl
17:04 bitcoingirl how is keen is serial scammer - i haven't heard this
17:04 bitcoingirl Thanks +benkay
17:04 bitcoingirl kenna*
17:05 benkay (feel free to omit the +, bitcoingirl, it just indicates that this handle has voice)
17:06 jurov after the first incarnation of tradehill closed, deposited bitcoins were never seen again
17:06 bitcoingirl ive spoken with people that got their bitcoins back
17:06 benkay you've taken a sample.
17:06 bitcoingirl he said he couldn't get a bank account... as if it was out of his control
17:07 bitcoingirl i did not do a proper statistical analysis
17:08 benkay and i've talked to people who got their money out of BCS&T - what of it?
17:08 benkay i've even talked to people who made money on cryptostocks, GLBSE, bitcoinbourse (okay maybe not bourse), but you get the point.
17:09 benkay and coinbase will even refund your "get fucked" trades if you complain loudly enough on reddit/twitter/bitcointalk
17:09 bitcoingirl i do - but he is saying that it wasn't his fault tradehill went under bc he couldn't get a bank account
17:09 bitcoingirl +benkay, what country are you primarily located in?
17:09 benkay i wonder how many millions of US were burnt to discover that one cannot do msb + btc in the us.
17:10 benkay los estados unidos, por ahora.
17:10 benkay despues, quien sabes.
17:10 davout "he said he couldn't get a bank account... as if it was out of his control" <<< actually, it wouldn't really surprise me if this was true
17:11 benkay nobody's tried the Paymium approach in the states, afaik.
17:11 davout "i wonder how many millions of US were burnt to discover that one cannot do msb + btc in the us." <<< is there any entity who actually tried to get the license in all states ?
17:11 benkay Kraken.
17:11 benkay they also performed a hasty retrograde maneuver iirc.
17:12 benkay aka Payward.
17:12 davout payward tried to get msb licensed in lots of states?
17:13 benkay when i spoke to ms. choi last she indicated that was the plan. granted, that was forever ago and we've not kept up.
17:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07462951 = 0.7463 BTC [+] {4}
17:13 benkay the best part about kraken is the header on their header
17:14 benkay "yo dawg we herd u like web 3.14 so we put some css on your css"
17:14 kakobrekla davout iirc they started as US only
17:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00085015 = 11.222 BTC [+]
17:14 kakobrekla cause i remember laughing about it.
17:14 davout yea, they're lucky fidor took them :-)
17:15 kakobrekla mhm
17:15 benkay ;;ticker --market kraken
17:15 gribble Kraken BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 646.45777, Best ask: 656.43773, Bid-ask spread: 9.97996, Last trade: 646.54153, 24 hour volume: 0.98730776, 24 hour low: 646.001, 24 hour high: 659.8, 24 hour vwap: 655.83189
17:15 benkay ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral
17:15 gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 655.54615, Best ask: 667.14256357, Bid-ask spread: 11.59641, Last trade: 667.14256357, 24 hour volume: 21.25395645, 24 hour low: 654.864, 24 hour high: 670.55345, 24 hour vwap: 661.679544831
17:15 pankkake ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur
17:15 gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 480.5, Best ask: 488.9999, Bid-ask spread: 8.49990, Last trade: 488.9999, 24 hour volume: 21.25395645, 24 hour low: 480.0, 24 hour high: 491.5, 24 hour vwap: 484.995635
17:16 davout "24 hour volume: 0.98730776" <<< that can't be kraken's eur volume
17:16 benkay ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur
17:16 gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 480.5, Best ask: 488.9999, Bid-ask spread: 8.49990, Last trade: 488.9999, 24 hour volume: 21.25395645, 24 hour low: 480.0, 24 hour high: 491.5, 24 hour vwap: 484.995635
17:16 benkay ;;ticker --market kraken --currency eur
17:16 gribble Kraken BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 479.65001, Best ask: 480.22868, Bid-ask spread: 0.57867, Last trade: 480.36999, 24 hour volume: 190.24285332, 24 hour low: 478.05478, 24 hour high: 482.5, 24 hour vwap: 480.49926
17:16 benkay davout: ^^
17:16 davout ah, the usd one i guess :)
17:16 pankkake there is to btcusd for bitcoincentral, so gribble invents it. however, there is for kraken, which doesn't see much action
17:16 pankkake s/to/no/
17:17 benkay but, pankkake, they do seem to have some volume on the eur side
17:17 pankkake yes, the have more than bitcoin-central usually
17:17 pankkake I've made a bitbet of kraken vs bc volume but it was refused :(
17:17 benkay what why?
17:18 davout yup, they're blessed with this situation where they have a financial entity backing them, but lets them do the kyc diligences themselves
17:18 davout s/but/which/
17:18 benkay davout: implying they're skimping?
17:19 pankkake they're verification was a joke last time I tried. didn't even have to upload documents for first levels
17:19 davout that's the way i see it, look at their verification tiers, there's no such thing in europe where you can start moving funds without being identified
17:19 pankkake but you give them your name!! it must be true :)
17:19 benkay amazing company.
17:19 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
17:20 benkay pankkake: what was the rejection rationale?
17:20 davout the next step being, "oh wait, now you have money with us, let's start asking questions to let you move it out"
17:21 davout bitstamp-style
17:21 benkay p. typical. is this true of btc accounts as well?
17:22 davout what do you mean ?
17:22 benkay i suppose it would have to be, to work with the paymium model.
17:23 benkay naively, "why do i have to show docs if i'm just showing up with btc and leaving with btc", but i get it.
17:23 davout ah i see
17:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10413 @ 0.00085073 = 8.8587 BTC [+] {3}
17:24 davout i don't know about kraken, but the paymium approach is that we skip the issue entirely, we verify everyone, if people were only depositing and withdrawing btc they could do it anonymously, but we don't really want that kind of users since we make no money being a wallet
17:25 pankkake benkay: I don't remember, either no paid wager or bad source (bitcoincharts)
17:25 benkay learned your lesson on that one? ;)
17:26 benkay also (and correct me if i'm wrong davout) but if a user ever wants to sell btc via paymium, even if not withdrawing cash, they have to have a french bank account.
17:27 davout there might business models for wallets, but trying to do everything is not the smartest way
17:27 davout a EU bank account
17:27 jurov benkay nope, i'm using slovak acct
17:27 benkay ah, any eurozone account? i don't know much about your banking situations.
17:28 davout yeah
17:28 davout such hail in paris
17:29 davout bwhahaha https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10351172_847904695230543_425532834360726811_n.png
17:32 pankkake https://anxbtc.com/ wait, what is this?
17:32 assbot ANXBTC Bitcoin Exchange
17:33 benkay volume: 535 B
17:33 benkay riiiiight.
17:33 pankkake neither bc or kraken publish monthly volume themselves :/
17:34 pankkake https://hitbtc.com/ that one too, no idea it even existed
17:34 assbot The most advanced exchange / hitbtc
17:35 davout pankkake: i'm told sometimes the hitbtc orderbook empties all of a sudden, the mm who whas telling me that assumes it's their own bot that sometimes goes offline
17:35 pankkake http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/ full of lulz
17:35 assbot Bitcoin Charts / Markets
17:35 Apocalyptic pankkake, I think I saw Enky point out that hitbtc is faking volume
17:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00239616 = 0.1246 BTC [-] {5}
17:36 davout !up bitcoingirl
17:36 BingoBoingo %ticker
17:36 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 144 Ask: 270 Last Price: 273 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A
17:36 BingoBoingo %book
17:36 atcbot 40k@278 28k@277 2k@270 | 4k@144 50k@143 175k@142
17:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 194 @ 0.00235001 = 0.4559 BTC [-]
17:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13928 @ 0.00085109 = 11.854 BTC [+]
17:52 jurov 1up bitcoinhtx
17:52 jurov !up bitcoinhtx
17:53 jurov !up bitcoinhtx
17:53 jurov !up frankenmint
17:53 jurov !up CoalPowerGorilla
17:54 frankenmint thanks
17:54 frankenmint how do I decrypt the challenge question in dos?
17:54 CoalPowerGorilla ty
17:54 frankenmint i have gpg and i could register but I can't figure out the proper usage with the challenge link
17:55 jurov frankenmint: dos?
17:55 frankenmint yes
17:56 jurov download the challenge link into a file
17:56 jurov decrypt that file with gpg
17:56 frankenmint okay decrypt got it
17:56 jurov what step makes a problem?
17:56 frankenmint not knowing that I need to save the link into a file
17:57 frankenmint why couldnt i simply pass on the link directly to the cli
17:57 dignork frankenmint: you don't have to, on unix you can run "gpg -d", and paste the message into stdin
17:57 jurov because gpg does not know how to fetch http links?
17:57 jurov if there is curl for dos, just do
17:58 jurov curl <link> | gpg --decrypt
17:58 benkay #bitcoin-assets, supporting dos since 2014
17:59 jurov ;;gettrust assbot frankenmint
17:59 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user frankenmint: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=frankenmint | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=frankenmint | Rated since: Sat Jun 7 08:49:37 2014
17:59 fluffypony ;;rated frankenmint
17:59 gribble You rated user frankenmint on Sat Jun 7 08:49:37 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: OpenRigs customer, and newly appointed /r/bitcoin mod.
18:00 frankenmint nice
18:00 jurov ;;rate frankenmint 1 on fluffy's recommendation
18:00 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user frankenmint has been recorded.
18:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.244 = 0.488 BTC [+]
18:00 jurov now you can !up with assbot yourself
18:00 frankenmint thanks coolness
18:02 benkay !up bitcoinhtx
18:02 benkay bitcoin heat exchanger?
18:03 fluffypony lol
18:03 fluffypony so a Bitcoin HVAC technician really
18:04 jurov where is HVAC used in btc?
18:05 jurov boiler rooms, got it
18:05 fluffypony hah hah
18:06 peterl you could use a btc miner to heat your house?
18:06 thestringpuller fluffypony:
18:07 fluffypony thestringpuller:
18:08 jurov peterl: yes
18:08 jurov !up bitcoingirl
18:08 bitcoingirl thanks. i think I'm finished here for now.
18:09 benkay sweet dreams. give 'em hell.
18:09 jurov bitcoingirl, mind sharing the conclusion?
18:09 jurov if any?
18:09 bitcoingirl conclusion of what?
18:09 fluffypony https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=529946.msg7201619#msg7201619
18:09 assbot Neo & Bee talk (spam free thread)
18:09 fluffypony "Whats Dannys real name? is it really Daniel Brewster or what? I hv investors who want to buy the business how do i get hold of him?"
18:09 jurov bitcoingirl whatever you're finished
18:10 benkay i'm sure we'll see it in the next 'this week in bitcoin' from what is it - Forbes, bitcoingirl?
18:10 bitcoingirl i was just trying to get some information on the voorhees case. very interesting subject.
18:10 bitcoingirl tomorrow morning it'll be up
18:10 benkay bitcoingirl: have you read the indictments too?
18:10 benkay or, whatever legal docs the SEC pooped out
18:11 bitcoingirl parts of them.
18:11 bitcoingirl this is my conclusion: "In order for the SEC to consider raising bitcoin a securities offering, they would have to consider bitcoin as ‘money,' which they haven't"
18:11 benkay kinda goes cross-grain to the Shavers case.
18:12 benkay Trendon Shavers/Pirateat40/Bitcoin Savings and Trust ring a bell, bitcoingirl ?
18:13 bitcoingirl exactly
18:13 benkay wait hang on i thought the Shavers case established that they don't care if it's money or not raising funds is raising funds
18:13 bitcoingirl its just not fair for the sec to charge voorhees with offering securities before offering any guidance
18:14 benkay "SEC" "fair" << hue
18:14 bitcoingirl but that's for the courts to decide
18:14 bitcoingirl the shavers case hasn't gone to trial yet
18:14 jurov also, there's that interesting difference between GLBSE and MPEx
18:15 jurov treatment
18:16 thestringpuller and that jurov is the best broker ever
18:16 thestringpuller ;;gettrust jurov
18:16 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask jurov!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user jurov: Level 1: 4, Level 2: 13 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=jurov | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jurov | Rated since: Fri Jan 20 18:16:32 2012
18:17 jurov lol, so you got new password finally?
18:17 jurov what is it?
18:17 thestringpuller yup. painless, gangsta.
18:17 thestringpuller it is !(#&!JSKCNWR*@(#&fhjf3hu(*Fhj3of or something
18:17 Apocalyptic seems legit
18:18 benkay looks good to me
18:23 frankenmint anyone here run bots?
18:23 jurov !up Swadq
18:23 Swadq Thanks jurov
18:23 jurov frankenmint: yes, mircea_popescu runs hanbot
18:23 Swadq I do frankenmint, what's up?
18:24 jurov !up frankenmint
18:24 Swadq Thanks again
18:24 frankenmint thanks
18:24 fluffypony jurov: lol!
18:24 frankenmint uh okay i was looking at thishttps://github.com/maxme/bitcoin-arbitrage
18:25 frankenmint and I was going to change out gox for something like coinmkt or cryptsy
18:25 Swadq What about it?
18:25 Swadq Right
18:25 frankenmint is there a recognized rule of thumb for switching a strategy
18:26 frankenmint like if the market goes sideways then use arbitrage otherwise play swing trades
18:27 frankenmint because this looks like its one bot that works across several markets I was going to spend time to build my own bot from scratch that only uses cryptsy
18:27 Swadq I'm afraid I don't know, that's not the sort of bot I run :p I hope someone else can help you
18:27 Mats_cd03 https://soundcloud.com/hillydilly/milky-chance-flashed-junk-mind
18:27 assbot Milky Chance - Flashed Junk Mind by hillydilly.com on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds
18:27 frankenmint im just not entirely sure which makes better sense of mytime
18:31 jurov 1up akstunt600
18:31 jurov !up akstunt600
18:31 jurov 7up
18:33 thestringpuller ;;gettrust bitcoingirl
18:33 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user bitcoingirl: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=bitcoingirl | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitcoingirl | Rated since: never
18:36 benkay Mats_cd03: can you find something > 20 minutes?
18:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07377776 = 0.7378 BTC [-]
18:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7772 @ 0.00085442 = 6.6406 BTC [+]
18:38 kakobrekla <frankenmint> like if the market goes sideways then use arbitrage otherwise play swing trades < yes make it so if the market goes sideways then use arbitrage otherwise play swing trades
18:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128 @ 0.00085201 = 0.1091 BTC [-]
18:39 benkay Mats_cd03: good track
18:40 kakobrekla frankenmint the answer to your next question is exactly
18:40 kakobrekla Swadq|Away dont do the away thingy, ktnx
18:40 Swadq|Away kakobrekla what's preferable? Just being idle for 8 hours?
18:41 kakobrekla sure
18:41 jurov or /away
18:41 kakobrekla just imagine 200 derps on the chan going |away |sleeping |eating |fucking |cowmilking
18:41 Swadq Fair enough
18:41 Swadq At least we'd be a me to keep tabs
18:41 Swadq Able*
18:42 kakobrekla anyway nothing wrong with being idle
18:42 Swadq Fair enough
18:42 Swadq Goodnight
18:42 kakobrekla cya
18:44 Mats_cd03 benkay: http://hypem.com/gap_govball
18:44 assbot Governors Ball Playable Schedule by Gap
18:45 davout pankkake: massive hail too?
18:45 benkay Mats_cd03: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icqddnGuijs
18:45 assbot Insomnium - Shadows Of The Dying Sun 2014 (FulL Album) - YouTube
18:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12272 @ 0.00085201 = 10.4559 BTC [-]
18:46 pankkake ?
18:48 davout just getting lots of hail here
18:49 pankkake (had to look up the word). nothing and it's very hot
18:51 pankkake thunderstorm en route
18:52 pankkake I guess I'll tone down my Parisan pride tomorrow and pack an umbrella
18:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07377776 = 0.7378 BTC [-]
18:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 33 @ 0.07377776 = 2.4347 BTC [-]
18:59 Mats_cd03 benkay: i like it
19:06 pankkake hail is here
19:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0200335 = 0.1202 BTC [-]
19:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.244 = 0.488 BTC [+]
19:19 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
19:19 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 655.95, Best ask: 658.91, Bid-ask spread: 2.96000, Last trade: 658.62, 24 hour volume: 2687.21042317, 24 hour low: 651.7, 24 hour high: 661.11, 24 hour vwap: 0
19:22 mircea_popescu FabianB what email would you like mpexbot code ?
19:23 mircea_popescu "A person essentially help to make seriously articles I’d state. This is the first time I frequented your website page and thus far? I amazed with the analysis you made to make this actual publish amazing. Magnificent activity"
19:23 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
19:23 davout pankkake: "hail is here" <<< as predicted on -assets
19:23 pankkake :D
19:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0735 = 0.147 BTC [-]
19:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07372916 = 0.5898 BTC [+] {2}
19:30 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: how is this a pass << you ever dated ?
19:32 kakobrekla apparently a weird sample
19:32 dub Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration.that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's davout with the weather
19:33 davout dub: the guy has a point
19:33 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3RQWP37.txt )
19:33 mircea_popescu !b 2
19:33 mircea_popescu dub is like vexual on naxolone
19:35 dub thats bill hicks, suggest to familiarize
19:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0728 = 0.1456 BTC [-]
19:36 dub one of 'muricas only useful products
19:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07270061 = 0.1454 BTC [-]
19:36 cazalla isn't alex jones bill hicks?
19:37 mircea_popescu wait is alex jones a chick ?
19:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0234572 = 0.2346 BTC [-] {3}
19:38 decimation http://fish2.com/ipmi/river.pdf << problem: c-machines are buggy and crash all the time ... solution: glue another c-machine on top of the c-machine ... problem: hardware vendors have crap security on new c-machine ... and you can't examine the firmware
19:38 mircea_popescu http://www.bbc.co.uk/strictlycomedancing/2011/images/dancers/alex_jones624x351.jpg
19:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00084877 = 11.034 BTC [-]
19:38 BingoBoingo http://oglaf.com/trump/
19:38 assbot trump
19:39 mircea_popescu pankkake can penguirker also paste new oglafs ?
19:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 76 @ 0.02322812 = 1.7653 BTC [-] {4}
19:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00085069 = 11.8671 BTC [+] {2}
19:42 pankkake pretty much any irc bot with rss feed support could, but I planned to write something like that. anyway, for now: no
19:42 mircea_popescu i guess BingoBoingo is stuck doing it by hand
19:43 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Of course I am.
19:43 mircea_popescu ehehe
19:43 decimation I have a suggestion for content aggregation - use NNTP (usenet)
19:43 mircea_popescu ;;later tell bitcoingirl yes.
19:43 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:43 BingoBoingo Also Coindesk has reached new levels of Herpidity http://www.coindesk.com/digital-currencies-popular-technology-companies/
19:43 assbot If Digital Currencies Were Popular Technology Companies...
19:44 mircea_popescu bitcoingirl:idk how to find it << kakobrekla how hard it'd be to add full log search ? google is a bitchy little piece of shit that's not indexing half the days.
19:45 mircea_popescu maybe limit to 12 searches/ip/day or something ?
19:45 cazalla clearly i've been looking at the wrong alex jones
19:45 kakobrekla it depends how well its made
19:46 kakobrekla look at google and they still dont have shit together
19:46 mircea_popescu yeah
19:46 mircea_popescu but i mean, just run grep and report the results on a page
19:46 mircea_popescu or wait, is it php ? does php even have bindings to run bash ?
19:46 thestringpuller yes
19:46 davout "does php even have bindings to run bash ?" <<< wut
19:47 kakobrekla you could but you dont want to do that
19:47 mircea_popescu a ok
19:47 thestringpuller you can run shell from php but you don't want to do that
19:47 mircea_popescu actually i imagine the logs'd be in a db anyway rather than in files
19:47 kakobrekla its not text files anyway
19:47 mircea_popescu right.
19:47 decimation the problem with everything is idiots and spammers
19:47 kakobrekla ...
19:47 decimation limit searching to those in the wot
19:47 decimation everything becomes simple
19:47 mircea_popescu ;;search "derpy herp", assbot checks if guy is in l2 and pastes output ?
19:47 gribble (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
19:48 kakobrekla i can see ascii breaking it.
19:48 mircea_popescu if he does we negrate him
19:48 mircea_popescu or make him pay moar beer fund.
19:48 davout kakobrekla: the log already chokes on nicks containing caps
19:48 mthreat mircea_popescu: I've been thinking about making a log search. A handy search-as-a-service might come in handy there.
19:49 mircea_popescu but anyway, this will become a serious problem, already i spend too much time searching the logs
19:49 kakobrekla davout ?
19:49 mircea_popescu o right, this happens to be what mthreat does for a living iirc
19:49 davout backslashes
19:49 decimation So I'm on vacation in Maui, and I find the local "Hawai'i" culture amusing. Mostly it's white people and the descendents of Korean slaves pretending to have something in common with war-like primative tribes who used to live here.
19:49 mircea_popescu davout this because caps are evil in the ass of the lord.
19:49 thestringpuller http://bitcoinmagazine.com/9447/thinking-transactions/ << not too bad
19:49 assbot Thinking in Transactions Bitcoin Magazine
19:49 kakobrekla wasnt that fixed
19:50 mircea_popescu decimation sounds like someone on their way to cultural sensitivity boot camp
19:50 \\ohai test
19:50 kakobrekla yeah. fuick you.
19:51 mircea_popescu fail.
19:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07270061 = 0.3635 BTC [-]
19:51 davout kakobrekla: five mazeltovs to you
19:51 kakobrekla :)
19:51 punkman I was working on a log search thingy but then I forgot about it, ask me again in a few days
19:51 decimation hehe well the amusing thing about it is that loads of "spiritual" new-age white people (eat pray love) come here to find themselves a culture, because they aren't allowed to have one back in the mainland
19:51 mircea_popescu i was going to ask you in a few days but then i ated it.
19:51 kakobrekla you need to index all the shit then
19:51 mthreat mircea_popescu: is there an API to get the logs? not hard to write a crawler for it, but an API would be nice
19:51 kakobrekla ill add something to assbot
19:52 mircea_popescu mthreat not afaik
19:52 mircea_popescu cause we all have flatfile logs and well... lazy i guess
19:52 mthreat I was going to use something like log(poster's WoT score) as the "pageRank" equivalent for ranking the results
19:53 mircea_popescu wot score is not intended to be used as a scalar.
19:53 mircea_popescu ;;google what the wot is how to use it
19:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.0255004 = 0.2805 BTC [-] {2}
19:53 gribble Ammo - World Of Tanks: <http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Ammo>; The Definitive Idiot's Guide To High Explosive Ammunition - Game ...: <http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/312414-the-definitive-idiots-guide-to-high-explosive-ammunition/>; World of Tanks: High Explosive Ammo Guide (HE) - Glenn0010 ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qGn9FxdhXw>
19:53 mircea_popescu dude srsly.
19:53 mircea_popescu ;;google trilema what the wot is how to use it
19:53 gribble What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/>; Advanced WoT course : how the WoT is attacked, and how ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2014/advanced-wot-course-how-the-wot-is-attacked-and-how-it-defends-itself/>; On periphery and the peripheral. Ephemerides are also ... - (1 more message)
19:53 thestringpuller lolol
19:53 mircea_popescu there mthreat, first link/
19:53 mthreat ok i'll look at it. it's easy to change the ranking function
19:53 davout mthreat: the search should be as dumb as possible imo
19:54 davout ideally a bit smarter than a grep, but i'd beware of fancyness
19:54 mthreat davout: ok. I'll make it open so folks can submit pull requests or whatever.
19:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.0008487 = 14.8523 BTC [-] {2}
19:55 mircea_popescu there is nothing smarter than grep gtfo
19:55 thestringpuller perl -p -i -e
19:55 thestringpuller ;;perl
19:55 gribble Error: "perl" is not a valid command.
19:55 thestringpuller ;;ls
19:55 gribble What do you think I am, a shell?
19:55 mircea_popescu lol
19:55 mircea_popescu ;;ll
19:55 gribble Error: "ll" is not a valid command.
19:55 mircea_popescu ORLY
19:56 mthreat davout: and if assbot can do a REST request and interpret a JSON result, that part should be straightforward too
19:56 decimation I would do exactly what a monk in 1300 would do - make a concordance of each day's logs and then make an index of the concordance
19:56 davout mircea_popescu: i guess i you regexp you're good
19:56 mircea_popescu davout because srsly, regexp is turing complete!
19:56 BingoBoingo ;;rm
19:56 gribble Error: "rm" is not a valid command.
19:56 davout mthreat: not to nitpick, but there's no such thing as a rest request
19:56 davout :D
19:57 BingoBoingo ;;ed logs
19:57 gribble Google found nothing.
19:57 mthreat ok, as long as you know what I meant ;)
19:57 davout k i'm off, night all
19:57 mircea_popescu im starting to suspect davout has been sleepingon the couch for like a week
19:57 davout lol
19:57 mircea_popescu he's got nitpicks with everyone
19:57 mircea_popescu slash slash ///
19:57 mircea_popescu ahahaha
19:58 mircea_popescu the tarzan kid or w/e his name is has started a trend nao
19:59 bitcoinpete ;;later tell davout lol well played
19:59 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:59 bitcoinpete howdy
19:59 mircea_popescu hey.
19:59 mircea_popescu bitcoin girl was looking for you earlier.
19:59 bitcoinpete orly?
19:59 bitcoinpete didn't see my name pop up in the logs...
19:59 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: no coinbr account? then one must resolve to hookers. << you mean resort yea ?
20:00 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete im just being an asshole.
20:00 kakobrekla yeah.
20:00 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/susie_c/status/475100972004679681
20:00 assbot New inbox filter for emails containing "New York," "coming to the Bay Area," "writing an article," "pick your brain" ---> auto-reply "NOPE."
20:00 benkay no no, coinbr resolves to hookers
20:00 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: i've been had!
20:01 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/475753463188430848
20:01 assbot The dream of having computers behave like humans is coming true, with the transformation, in a single generation, of humans into computers.
20:01 BingoBoingo ^ If only
20:01 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo the bestpart being that the susie chick is practically nobody anyway.
20:01 bitcoinpete ;;later tell benkay shibboleeeet http://xkcd.com/806/
20:01 assbot xkcd: Tech Support
20:01 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:02 mircea_popescu bitcoingirl: i think Kraken and circle are the drivers of the operation << SV "Bitcoin" VCs are quickly becoming this place elephants go to die.
20:02 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The best part from he being a practical nobody is that there is a still lesser class such that even nobodies need autoresponders to dismiss them.
20:12 mircea_popescu i had no idea they did that, moreover, pretty sure they didn't USE to do it.
20:12 thestringpuller AMAZING
20:12 thestringpuller amazing
20:12 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
20:12 mthreat ^ that's what I was trying to do
20:12 mircea_popescu anyway, this unearthed a bug in the credits script so you get double credit mthreat
20:12 mthreat sweet
20:12 thestringpuller hooray hooray!
20:12 thestringpuller educate yo'selfs
20:13 mthreat mircea_popescu: success
20:13 mircea_popescu cool.
20:16 mircea_popescu benkay: and the best question yet: why are any of these fuckers still making noise? << apparently, lack of any sort of conservation instinct.
20:17 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Maybe the problem is the uranium mines have been unveiled yet?
20:17 mircea_popescu i guess.
20:17 kakobrekla FabianB
20:18 kakobrekla !mp book
20:18 assbot http://dpaste.com/1F4E7FY.txt
20:18 kakobrekla !mp ticker
20:18 assbot http://dpaste.com/1GR13WW.txt
20:18 mircea_popescu pretty cute.
20:19 BingoBoingo I mean they've been hinted at, but some people probably won't believe until they are wearing an breathing aparatus and hoping it holds so the Radon doesn't asphyxiate them.
20:20 mircea_popescu davout: yup, they're blessed with this situation where they have a financial entity backing them, but lets them do the kyc diligences themselves << dubious blessing.
20:20 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo so far, it'd seem the playbook of the vc twerp is, "1. eat as much conference rubber duck as possible ; 2. show trial ; 3. become usg informant"
20:21 mircea_popescu in a few years it'll be practically speaking la serenissima vs a horde of mindless zombies controlled by the secretary of crypto, labour, housing, healthcare and other human services
20:21 mircea_popescu it'll have a special crest with an eagle holding cocks.
20:22 BingoBoingo Wasn't that the first draft of the S.NSA logo?
20:22 mircea_popescu yeah. which explains it.
20:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18150 @ 0.00085415 = 15.5028 BTC [+] {3}
20:25 BingoBoingo I'm guessing the first Secretary of crypto is probably going to be Jay-Z or Ashton Kutcher, because VC celibrities in the flea circus like to imagine celberities in the Hollywood circus care for them.
20:25 benkay hey who wants to sell me a data center
20:25 mircea_popescu pankkake: but you give them your name!! it must be true :) << actually this is how england worked, back when it was still a respectable country, up until the socialist revolution of the 80s.
20:25 mircea_popescu if you gave your name, the policeman was not at liberty to doubt your word.
20:26 benkay bitcoinpete: leet leet leet
20:26 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo nah, it'll be yet another famished dc lawyer.
20:26 bitcoinpete benkay: :D
20:26 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Also a possibility.
20:27 mircea_popescu by the way, whilke going through bsas' jewish quarter today it occured to me : what if the yamaka exists solelyto hide baldness ?
20:27 mircea_popescu imagine, a whole people of men who don't have to worry about their thin spot anymore.
20:28 benkay lol what did they start caring about their guts?
20:28 mircea_popescu but there's a shawl too.
20:29 benkay that's to display wealth with fabric, thread and dye, not to conceal the rotundity of being well-fed.
20:29 mircea_popescu how you know.
20:29 benkay leastaways that's how i've always read it. odds of me being wrong on a thing are like 9:1
20:29 benkay grew up in it.
20:30 benkay tallit's an important gift to the newly adultified.
20:30 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Generally in the US baseball caps are used to hide bald spots and thinning hair. I kind of though tthe concept was cribbed from the Jews.
20:31 mircea_popescu benkay just sayin', you never know what the REAL purpose is.
20:31 benkay sure ofc
20:31 mircea_popescu that's the heart of all conspiracy
20:31 benkay social conformity, 900 others, bla bla bla
20:33 mircea_popescu !mpif
20:33 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021703 BTC (Total: 434.08 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+]
20:34 BingoBoingo !jd mpif
20:34 assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 170.49500922 BTC; -0.06019199 BTC (-0.0353%) since last check 1d 21h 52m 10s ago.
20:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13851 @ 0.0008552 = 11.8454 BTC [+]
20:35 mircea_popescu frankenmint: why couldnt i simply pass on the link directly to the cli << you could open the link in a browser and past the contents directly to the cli
20:35 mircea_popescu or use some sort of pipes with wget to do this
20:39 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: <frankenmint> like if the market goes sideways then use arbitrage otherwise play swing trades < yes make it so if the market goes sideways then use arbitrage otherwise play swing trades << the humour of this has not been lost on me.
20:40 kakobrekla :)
20:40 kakobrekla dud.
20:41 mircea_popescu no milk ;/
20:41 kakobrekla aww
20:41 BingoBoingo Aww
20:41 * kakobrekla calls usagi
20:41 mircea_popescu i think this may be scam ;/
20:42 kakobrekla maybe he can dox milk for 0.1 btc
20:42 mircea_popescu or ddos it from his home computer
20:42 BingoBoingo ;;google site:bitcoin-assets.com risperidone milk
20:42 gribble No matches found.
20:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48200 @ 0.00085017 = 40.9782 BTC [-] {2}
20:57 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu benkay tallits also bulk up the shoulders nicely, hiding the kind of scrawniness that can only come with paper pushing
21:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25050 @ 0.00084797 = 21.2416 BTC [-] {3}
21:06 thestringpuller "if your brother was a good king, he'd still be alive" -tywin
21:18 benkay the domain man.systems is available
21:18 benkay i discovered this with http://dumb.domains
21:18 assbot DUMB.domains
21:19 benkay and was paid to deliver this message
21:19 benkay ;;later tell fluffypony frisky.holdings lol you can use that for your future fund
21:19 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:19 benkay whoa fp offline for once
21:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50100 @ 0.00085274 = 42.7223 BTC [+]
21:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00007007 = 0.3504 BTC [-] {4}
21:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1750 @ 0.00007001 = 0.1225 BTC [-] {2}
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21:44 mircea_popescu mike_c hey i wanna argue with you some more. you busy ?
21:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.07377776 = 2.7298 BTC [+]
21:48 mike_c fire away
21:48 mircea_popescu so, are all your btc currently invested in like stocks and shit ?
21:48 mike_c hm
21:48 mike_c hypothetically what do you call panacea? that's not stock and shit
21:48 mircea_popescu doesn't have to be the personal you. the theoretical you, as described by must always eat cake
21:48 mircea_popescu ok, securities.
21:49 mike_c theoretically JD isn't a security, it's bankrolling a casino.
21:49 mircea_popescu it's a security (an adjusted debenture)
21:50 mike_c ok. seems like a broad definition, but then yes, i suppose the theoritcal me is invested in securities.
21:50 mircea_popescu 100% ?
21:50 BingoBoingo Is uranium mine a security?
21:51 mike_c to be clear (for the last time) we aren't talking about me, but what I would recommend.
21:51 BingoBoingo And if so is it cake?
21:51 mircea_popescu yourownership of it is.
21:51 mircea_popescu mike_c your theoretical model.
21:51 mike_c my theoritcal model would be 95% invested, yeas
21:51 mike_c yeah
21:52 mircea_popescu your theoretical model would be broke.
21:52 mike_c it would disagree :D
21:52 mike_c you mean it would be illiquid?
21:52 mircea_popescu that shit where you're 95% invested at age 30 because whatever, you'll make more stiictly depends on fiat being paper.
21:53 mike_c no, you're invested because no reason not to have your money out working for you
21:53 mircea_popescu anyway, what i had in mind just got shot because i wasn't expecting you to be this reckless :D
21:53 mike_c hehe
21:53 mike_c why sit around with a huge cash balance that isn't growing when there are good investment opportunities?
21:53 mircea_popescu can't fucking argue with you without a degree in mikeity.
21:54 mircea_popescu i'lltell you why
21:54 mircea_popescu ever heard of thierry de la villehuchet ?
21:54 mike_c no
21:55 mircea_popescu french aristocrat from a family that had been doing banking for centuries
21:55 mike_c hm, a madoff investor
21:55 mircea_popescu recently killed himself, over the net results of the wrong answer to that question
21:55 mike_c lots of investors jump off buildings during every crisis cuz they are dumb.
21:56 mike_c i'm not saying put 95% of your cash in pirate. or in a variety of investments that are all actually putting their money in pirate.
21:56 mircea_popescu but can you know.
21:57 mike_c yes.
21:57 mircea_popescu which conveniently fixes the shotwound in my idea.
21:57 mike_c heh. pleasure doing business.
21:57 mircea_popescu the reason the theoretical you wants to buy "shitty" investments is that buying all the good investments and only those exposes you to a class risk
21:57 mircea_popescu ie, they're not likely to be unrelated, whether you know this or not.
21:57 mircea_popescu ie, they're all into pirate.
21:58 mike_c JD is not actually running some elaborate fake movie on its site while secretly running a ponzi.
21:58 mircea_popescu this is besides the point tho
21:58 mircea_popescu human activity is bound in that it's run by humans.
21:59 mike_c ok..
21:59 mike_c so the class risk is that all BTC bizness could go belly up?
21:59 mike_c like by some decree?
21:59 mike_c i propose doog and kako would still return funds.
22:00 mircea_popescu the class risk is that in general, all the fashionable stuff in any space tends to go belly up together a lot more than a "unrelated" model would seem to indicate.
22:00 mircea_popescu and by fashionable i actually mean "good returns"
22:00 mike_c so i should diversify into "bad returns". hmm..
22:02 BingoBoingo Not necessarily bad returns, but... neutral returns like holding coin otherwise uninvested and other brussel sprouts.
22:02 mike_c let's take a fiat example. warren invests in good companies with durable competitive advantages and global footprints. what's the class risk? he only invests in good companies?
22:03 mircea_popescu the class risk is exactly that. he's now stuck derping about how "america will prevail"
22:04 mircea_popescu i wouldn't want to be in his shoes. he's saved by old age, and by the fact that business cycles used to be slow.
22:04 mircea_popescu this won't hold in the future.
22:04 mike_c he owns lots of companies outside US, and the US companies sell more product outside america than inside. US could get wiped off map, and as long as Omaha was left standing he'd be ok.
22:05 mike_c i wouldn't want to be him because he's trying to grow a capital base of $200B.
22:05 mike_c plus he's 80-something
22:05 mircea_popescu actually that's not particularly concerning, the size.
22:05 mircea_popescu let me make this argument at you in a different vein.
22:06 dub US could get wiped off map.. Inshallah
22:07 mike_c i gotta pop off for 30 mins. back in a bit and will continue if you're still around.
22:08 mircea_popescu aite.
22:09 thestringpuller Why is Aurenheimer being a n00b?
22:09 * benkay is on tenterhooks, goes back to the editor
22:09 thestringpuller Guess he likes being a troll that much.
22:09 thestringpuller all for the lulz
22:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00085274 = 16.33 BTC [+]
22:10 mircea_popescu thestringpuller that'd be the best construction lol
22:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3871 @ 0.00007001 = 0.271 BTC [-]
22:16 TheNewDeal MP, so what's the magic number of % assets invested for us young guns
22:16 TheNewDeal :D
22:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 12500 @ 0.00006099 = 0.7624 BTC [-] {9}
22:17 dub 69%
22:19 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal wait what ?
22:22 TheNewDeal nice dub
22:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00085365 = 16.0059 BTC [+]
22:23 TheNewDeal in reference to the mike_c 95% invested
22:23 TheNewDeal whats the magic %age
22:24 mircea_popescu well, you familiar with the kelly criterion ?
22:24 mike_c i am of course.
22:25 mike_c plus, i'm back.
22:26 mike_c so, TheNewDeal: kelly says in the simple case (1:1 bet) to bet your edge.
22:26 mike_c if you have a 5% edge, bet 5% of your bankroll
22:26 TheNewDeal i just read your article about kelly the other day
22:26 mike_c but it gets more complicated with odds and with multiple wagers/investments.
22:28 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal now model a beting situation where you also have income
22:28 mircea_popescu it'll skew the optimal towards more risk
22:28 mircea_popescu the more a % of your stake the income is, the more risk you take.
22:28 mircea_popescu mike_c ok so, back to our discussion
22:29 mircea_popescu consider all you have is 100 btc, and jd offers you a shot at 200 btc. would you take the deal ?
22:29 mike_c of course not
22:29 TheNewDeal JD...
22:29 mike_c justdice
22:29 TheNewDeal i know
22:29 TheNewDeal its a place to dump btc that you no longer wish to own
22:30 mike_c mircea_popescu: and i mean of course not on the betting or investing side.
22:30 mircea_popescu mike_c now, could we say that since you're proposed to either lose all your money or win 100 btc this deal isn't very good,
22:30 mircea_popescu but if you were proposed to either lose all your btc or win all the btc there are, then it'd be a fine shot ?
22:31 mike_c you mean 100 vs 20999900? then yes.
22:31 TheNewDeal depending on the odds
22:32 TheNewDeal but even your 2/3 chance of a 2X payout, kelly says to bet a fraction of your stake
22:33 mircea_popescu mike_c now obviously as fair as this deal would be to you, it's still not particularly fair to jd.
22:33 mircea_popescu in fact, the poorer you are, the further your fair deal is forsanity
22:33 mircea_popescu EXCEPT if you're worth ~7 mn btc. then the deal is actually fair for both ends.
22:33 mike_c fair but foolish, yes.
22:33 mircea_popescu this is precisely why i said earlier 200bn isn't the concern. the bigger you grow, the more deals are exposed to you.
22:34 mike_c not sure i give you that. different deals are exposed. some are removed.
22:34 mircea_popescu none are removed.
22:34 mircea_popescu as a hot guy you can still fuck all the ugly chicks you want
22:34 mircea_popescu as a smart guy you can still say all thestupid shit you may want to say
22:34 mircea_popescu the fact that you don't want to do it doesn't mean it's been removed.
22:35 mike_c removed from the world of "profitable options"
22:35 mike_c it is not profitalbe to spend my time making 50% on 2m instead of 2% on 100b.
22:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07370061 = 0.1474 BTC [-]
22:37 mike_c but, not to sidetrack if that wasn't the main point.
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0727658 = 0.1455 BTC [-]
22:41 mircea_popescu i don't follow this logic, even if it is a sidepoint
22:44 mike_c only so much time in the day. it is unprofitable to spend it on endeavors that can't return a reasonable percentage on my enlarged capital base.
22:44 mircea_popescu what's the percentage matter.
22:46 TheNewDeal diversification maaan
22:46 mike_c why would i expend effort on something that may significantly increase 1% of my base instead of something that will only moderately increase 20% of my base? it would be unprofitable.
22:47 mircea_popescu to put it another way : behind door A there's a bacterium. in the proper agar it doubles every half minute. behind door B there's a naked buxom beauty. you can pick either door, the prize will be entirely yours to dispose as you please.
22:47 mircea_popescu you're taking the bacterium ?
22:48 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2R06PDC.txt )
22:48 BingoBoingo !b 2
22:48 mike_c i am failing to map that metaphor onto our financial discussion.
22:48 punkman aesthetics are important
22:49 BingoBoingo Hauling trash can offer great returns, but it isn't very fun or glamorous.
22:49 mircea_popescu mike_c well, there's this chain of pizzerias, which will be doubling each year for the next decade, yielding a bunch of pizzerias.
22:50 mircea_popescu or, there's benkay's ocean mining conglomerate, which will gain 10% over the same decade
22:50 mircea_popescu which 10% could buy about one trillion pizzerias.
22:50 mircea_popescu which ?
22:50 mike_c well, this is kind of my point.
22:50 mike_c with a huge capital base you don't even consider the pizzerias
22:51 mike_c wait
22:51 mircea_popescu lol
22:51 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 1114 @ 0.00207449 = 2.311 BTC [-] {3}
22:52 mike_c pizzeria = $100k. will double for 10 years yielding.. $100m
22:52 mike_c with $200b in equity you ignore that shit.
22:52 mike_c because it is a waste of yoru time.
22:52 mike_c that opportunity is not yours.
22:52 mike_c it is the opportunity of a lifetime for the guy with 100k.
22:52 mircea_popescu it's a waste of everyone's time, just, others don't have the luxury to notice.
22:52 TheNewDeal lol
22:53 mircea_popescu like you know, a dribblet of cum i spilled on the floor is something my well sated slaves ignore
22:53 mircea_popescu but would be the opportunity of a lifetime for a random girl off twitter.
22:53 mike_c ok :) fine. so if you assume the people worth talking about all have an enlarged capital base, then we can scope the conversation to that.
22:54 mircea_popescu this is why i introduced the bitcoin gambling thing. to point out that the world is a snowglobe whether you are big enough to notice or not.,
22:54 mircea_popescu and in that context, a large capital base works you no harm.
22:56 mircea_popescu http://www.bootygirlz.com/boobygirl_home.shtml << the revenge of 1992
22:56 assbot Bootygirlz.com Buxom White Whore Boobygirl sucks and fucks Groups of Hung Black Men
22:57 mthreat buffett talks about that a lot, e.g. from 1994: "Though there are as many good businesses as ever, it is useless for us to make purchases that are inconsequential in relation to Berkshire's capital. … We now consider a security for purchase only if we believe we can deploy at least $100 million in it. Given that minimum, Berkshire's investment universe has shrunk dramatically.
22:57 mthreat "
22:57 mircea_popescu sure.
22:57 mircea_popescu he also says that he's not going to discuss his strategy given that it's valuable and easily replicated
22:57 mike_c ok.. perhaps this will bring our lines of thought closer: in my theoretical model, someone with as much bitcoin as you should absolutely not be 95% invested.
22:57 mircea_popescu soyou know, gotta take what the man says with a gtain of salt.
22:58 mircea_popescu mike_c well amusingly enough i actually am holding tons of paper. just, it's to a large degree my own.
22:58 TheNewDeal regardless, Buffet's capital is how many times greater than most people?
22:59 mircea_popescu which brings us to the problem : because bitcoin is fixed, a 95% investment situation will be unavoidable statistically. as the value of all paper will much exceed the value of cash btc available, willy-nilly.
22:59 mircea_popescu and so everyone will be quite invested.
23:00 mircea_popescu which is why the stability of the investment universe is actually drastically more important for bitcoin than for fiat.
23:01 mike_c and "cash" will still be king :)
23:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34736 @ 0.000854 = 29.6645 BTC [+] {3}
23:03 TheNewDeal btc not the king?!?!
23:04 mike_c keep up here, cash = liquid btc
23:04 TheNewDeal ahhh
23:04 TheNewDeal MP i've got a question about reported results for btc companies
23:04 mike_c although mp has proposed that ballers swap shares of mpoe like it's cash. which is interesting.
23:05 TheNewDeal specifically, why doesn't bitbet have a report like "bets pending, resolved, gain, etc"
23:05 TheNewDeal like when I look up my betting address
23:05 TheNewDeal the way they report it now - with bets made taken as a windfall, and bets resolved as a gain, kind of hides their results of their bets
23:06 mike_c catch you guys tomorrow.
23:08 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal becase back when bitbet was invented we didn't have an0 yet.
23:09 mircea_popescu !up smickles
23:09 mircea_popescu meanwhile the channel went +m
23:09 TheNewDeal but now bets are greater than incoming revenue
23:09 mircea_popescu you gotta id with gribble then pm assbot !up to get permavoiced.
23:10 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot smickles
23:10 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask smickles!~ec2-user@ec2-54-227-61-57.compute-1.amazonaws.com. Trust relationship from user assbot to user smickles: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 8 via 8 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=smickles | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=smickles | Rated since: Wed Jan 4 21:28:52 2012
23:10 smickles !up
23:10 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal well yeah that can happen. it's rare
23:10 mircea_popescu smickles in pm tho
23:10 smickles tst
23:10 mircea_popescu there.
23:10 smickles whee :)
23:11 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/ for background
23:11 assbot #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
23:11 smickles it's like the channel just went on without me
23:12 mircea_popescu haha. i don't even recall, where you here when logs were introduced ? the bash ?
23:12 mircea_popescu we even have a secretary now, with a phone number and everything.
23:12 smickles maybe just the beginning
23:12 mircea_popescu ;;topic
23:12 gribble http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com
23:12 mircea_popescu and a blog network!
23:13 smickles oh my, can I even type words properly anymore?
23:13 smickles what a thing this is now!
23:14 mircea_popescu ikr.
23:14 smickles do people get de-voiced if assbot has a low L2 of them?
23:14 mircea_popescu ;;google site:log.bitcoin-assets.com reutersemily
23:14 gribble NEXT: 21-03-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2014>; NEXT: 23-04-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2014>; NEXT: 22-03-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log - bitcoin-assets.com: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-03-2014>
23:15 mircea_popescu smickles if it's <1 they justcan't self voice anymoar.
23:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00085638 = 15.2007 BTC [+] {2}
23:17 smickles so much to read, no way i'll get current hehe
23:18 mircea_popescu lol
23:18 BingoBoingo smickles: Either that or the kids will be out of the house.
23:19 smickles ah, speaking of that. I have to give them a bath. bb in 20 min or so
23:34 smickles bak
23:36 TheNewDeal how did bathing the little shits go?
23:38 mircea_popescu !up unbalanced
23:40 smickles TheNewDeal: awfully
23:40 smickles they are tired, i did it too late in the day
23:40 TheNewDeal that sounds like a good deal?
23:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10691 @ 0.00085392 = 9.1293 BTC [-]
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