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00:01 nicknode_ whats up with neobee?
00:01 Mats_cd03 it sucks
00:01 VanCleef outed as a scam
00:01 nicknode_ VanCleef: link?
00:04 iamnot_ VanCleef, really?
00:04 nicknode_ VanCleef: would you let me in on the true inside story on neobee? i'll pay
00:04 iamnot_ or just "really?"
00:06 VanCleef my lawyer has asked me to not talk about it
00:07 nicknode_ ok well thanks anyway
00:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00093835 = 8.3982 BTC [-] {2}
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00:38 nubbins` ha
00:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00093834 = 4.3633 BTC [-]
00:47 MisterE xD
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02:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00094136 = 12.7084 BTC [+] {2}
02:20 samO_ thx mircea_popesku for the link (yeah, i've been blind) :D
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02:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5061 @ 0.00094173 = 4.7661 BTC [+]
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03:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00094217 = 18.4665 BTC [+] {2}
03:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33750 @ 0.00093894 = 31.6892 BTC [-] {7}
03:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1739 @ 0.00094231 = 1.6387 BTC [+]
03:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2861 @ 0.00094345 = 2.6992 BTC [+]
03:57 bitcoinpete ;;later tell benkay ty!
03:57 gribble The operation succeeded.
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04:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00093961 = 8.4095 BTC [-]
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04:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06888 = 0.6888 BTC [+]
04:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59484287 BTC [+]
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05:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.05564701 = 1.1129 BTC [-] {2}
05:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20741 @ 0.00094128 = 19.5231 BTC [+] {2}
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05:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00094197 = 12.8579 BTC [+]
05:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00094197 = 8.2893 BTC [+]
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05:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00094197 = 10.4559 BTC [+]
06:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8431 @ 0.00094007 = 7.9257 BTC [-] {2}
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06:39 khersonus ;;blocks
06:39 gribble 293057
06:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1312 @ 0.00094197 = 1.2359 BTC [+]
06:49 ArsKisS havelock so down :/
06:56 Jackmaninov wow such trade
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07:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00094197 = 0.9891 BTC [+]
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07:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00094252 = 14.1849 BTC [+] {2}
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07:58 joeshanny peek da whole scene and whatever's goin on around, brain kinda cloudy, smoked out, feelin rowdy
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08:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56000001 = 1.12 BTC [-] {2}
08:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56 = 1.12 BTC [-] {2}
08:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.559 BTC [-]
08:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.559 = 1.118 BTC [-]
08:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.55057778 = 4.9552 BTC [-] {7}
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08:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.522 BTC [-]
08:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.06888989 = 0.2756 BTC [-] {3}
08:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.522 BTC [-]
08:55 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-psychology-of-the-bagholder/
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08:55 ozbot The psychology of the bagholder pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
08:55 mircea_popescu ;;later tell benkay asciilifeform you've been mentioned ^
08:55 gribble The operation succeeded.
08:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.522 = 4.176 BTC [-]
08:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00094401 = 11.2337 BTC [+] {2}
08:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0553188 = 0.2766 BTC [-] {4}
09:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00093976 = 7.847 BTC [-] {2}
09:02 artifexd mircea_popescu You make me sad. I wanted to believe in NeoBee.
09:03 VanCleef that was your first mistake
09:03 mircea_popescu yeah generally a pragmatic approach works better. there are more things we want to believe in than can be done.
09:04 psterryl so people are saying neobee is a scam now?
09:04 VanCleef yeah its official
09:04 mircea_popescu just poorly managed.
09:04 bounce but, I like that poster!
09:04 psterryl how is it official vancleef?
09:04 psterryl since there's been no official statement
09:05 psterryl seems like rumour to me
09:05 psterryl until someone points to some legit evidence or a statement from LMB/neo/danny
09:05 mircea_popescu psterryl what's your reasoning process here ?
09:06 psterryl my reasoning is evidence based
09:06 psterryl without evidence either way
09:06 mircea_popescu i mean specifically in this deduction :
09:06 mircea_popescu <psterryl> so people are saying neobee is a scam now?
09:06 mircea_popescu <VanCleef> yeah its official <psterryl> until someone points to some legit evidence or a statement from LMB/neo/danny
09:06 psterryl it's impossible to call it one way or the other
09:06 mircea_popescu no, this is neither reasonable nor novel material.
09:07 mircea_popescu it's been covered to death why " it's impossible to call it one way or the other" doesn't work and doesn't hold, over the years
09:07 mircea_popescu you'll have to refer to the logs.
09:07 psterryl i'm just talking from my own personal viewpoint
09:07 psterryl everyone is entitled to their own opinions/deductions
09:08 psterryl i like to be shown conclusive proof
09:08 psterryl rather than get caught up in internet chinese whispers
09:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.06730513 = 2.3557 BTC [-] {5}
09:09 mircea_popescu no, everyone is not entitled to their own personal viewpoint.
09:09 psterryl oh ok
09:09 mircea_popescu the path is 1) you prove you're able to think ; 2) you're entitled to your own viewpoint.
09:09 psterryl so everyone is entitled to the mircea approved viewpoint?
09:09 mircea_popescu so far you're short 1.
09:09 mircea_popescu no.
09:10 psterryl well, my 1st class university degree should suggest i'm ok for #1
09:10 mircea_popescu but there is such a thing as an examen de maturite which keeps the children away from human society.
09:10 psterryl but you're just some random guy on the internet
09:10 mircea_popescu you may not suggest that. i have to suggest it, when you're talking to me,
09:10 bounce eh, opinions are like assholes. everyone's got one. whether they matter is something else entirely.
09:10 psterryl so it's not like i have to prove anything to you
09:10 psterryl ok cool
09:10 psterryl well
09:10 mircea_popescu and generally everyone else, when you're talking to them.
09:10 psterryl in that cuse
09:10 cazalla popcorn.gif
09:10 psterryl as of this moment, i'm officially talking to everyone in this channel apart from you
09:10 psterryl so you dont need to worry
09:10 mircea_popescu aite.
09:10 cbr *clap clap clap clap*
09:11 ThickAsThieves statistically, ignoring mp is ignoring like half its content
09:11 ThickAsThieves (the channel's)
09:11 punkman1 psterryl: congratulations, you've removed all doubt
09:12 psterryl yeah im new on here so still working out who is insightful and who's just a dick
09:12 ThickAsThieves http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/
09:12 ozbot #bitcoin-assets stats
09:12 psterryl at first i thought mp was the former but starting to think latter
09:12 chetty here the dick is the insightful
09:12 artifexd Those qualities are not mutually exclusive.
09:12 psterryl i think that says a lot about the bitcoin community
09:12 VanCleef psterryl i think this might help - https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080602010632AAlnmTB
09:13 psterryl oh wow vancleef
09:13 psterryl such insight
09:13 psterryl many revelation
09:13 ThickAsThieves also "mean" and "dick" are emotional observations
09:13 ThickAsThieves not quite applicable to substance
09:13 mircea_popescu VanCleef i thought the freudian/jungian approach was poo = moneys.
09:13 VanCleef that would be good
09:14 VanCleef i had to check my pants before when i woke up
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09:14 ThickAsThieves the life a monkey!
09:14 mircea_popescu haha
09:14 psterryl true but when someone makes a blanket statement that not everyone is entitled to their own opinion
09:14 psterryl it suddenly becomes much harder to take them seriously
09:14 psterryl even idiots are entited to an opinion
09:14 psterryl it might be subjectively wrong in my eyes
09:14 psterryl but doesnt mean they're not entiteld to it
09:14 ThickAsThieves i dunno
09:15 ThickAsThieves did you bother asking why?
09:15 ThickAsThieves maybe he has logic behind his claims
09:15 ThickAsThieves you never felt like some people's opinion's dont deserve the weight they carry
09:15 ThickAsThieves ?
09:15 psterryl of course
09:15 psterryl but they're still entitled to that opinion
09:15 psterryl despite my personal views of it
09:16 ThickAsThieves or like the people that are most likely to say "everyone is entitled to their own opinion" are the least likely to have opinions worth considering?
09:16 psterryl well
09:16 psterryl that may be your opinion
09:16 ThickAsThieves it's customer-is-always-right syndrome
09:16 psterryl and you're totally entitled to it
09:17 psterryl but i personally disagree
09:17 ThickAsThieves maybe the issue mp has is with entitlement itself
09:17 ThickAsThieves not the craziest thing to challenge
09:18 VanCleef anyone have a youtube vid of a robot that's better than asimo?
09:18 psterryl that's a possibility
09:19 psterryl but saying that someone has to prove their intelligence before they're allowed an opinion
09:19 psterryl seems like a fairly entitled stance
09:19 psterryl so maybe it's a self-loathing issue
09:20 ThickAsThieves if you think mp is self-loathing, you have not read much from him
09:20 psterryl like i said i'm new here
09:20 VanCleef stocks are like women....once they lose their value you dump them
09:21 ThickAsThieves VanCleef, in that example, isnt better to dump them before they lose value?
09:21 VanCleef yes but like with women investors get emotionally involved and dont know when to let go
09:22 VanCleef this is the problem psterryl is having with neobee atm
09:22 ThickAsThieves a bit of a generalization, but i hear ya
09:24 pankkake I thought the limit for women was clear, dump when the age doesn't end in teen
09:24 psterryl and sometimes people bring a relationship back from the rocks and go on to have long and fulfilling times together
09:25 mircea_popescu why not just dump them when they get annoying, age-irrespective ?
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09:26 pankkake wait there are non-annoying women?!
09:26 mircea_popescu yeah!
09:26 pankkake that didn't use to be a man?
09:26 mircea_popescu see, if you dump them when they get 20 you're stuck with a bunch of annoying teens
09:26 mircea_popescu if you dump them when they get annoying you're stuck with a bunch of pleasant women.
09:26 chetty hey there are a lot of non-annoying women
09:27 ThickAsThieves maybe you need to write a how to pick up chicks worth picking up blog
09:27 mircea_popescu chetty dated a lot of em ?
09:27 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves that's simple, "have your girls recommend"
09:28 ThickAsThieves my girls?
09:28 ThickAsThieves like exes?
09:28 mircea_popescu uh
09:28 mircea_popescu no, because as per previous exes are annoying
09:28 ThickAsThieves slaves?
09:28 ThickAsThieves mom?
09:28 mircea_popescu well slaves if you keep slaves, girlfriends, w/e you got
09:28 mircea_popescu lol mom. not mom, it works better if you've been intimate. what's urmom know.
09:29 ThickAsThieves so ask your gf to recommend a new gf?
09:29 ThickAsThieves lol
09:29 mircea_popescu then again... deep south... maybe i shouldn't assume
09:29 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves definitely.
09:29 VanCleef "how to pick up chicks by not talking about bitcoin"
09:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00094435 = 6.4688 BTC [+]
09:29 ThickAsThieves "I'm sorry baby, it's just not working out. Got any referrals?"
09:29 mircea_popescu well you can't dump her
09:29 mircea_popescu she's not being annoying is she.
09:30 ThickAsThieves you gotta hold our collective hand a little hear
09:30 ThickAsThieves here*
09:30 ThickAsThieves cant find the thread
09:30 mircea_popescu i am more than willing to continue answering q's.
09:30 mircea_popescu tis not annoying or anything :D
09:31 ThickAsThieves i'll rephrase
09:31 ThickAsThieves shooting in the dark is annoying too
09:32 ThickAsThieves so far it seems you want a man to ask his not-annoying gf for recommendations
09:32 mircea_popescu gfs
09:32 chetty where is your sense of adventure?
09:32 mircea_popescu it's unlikely a single girl can do much for oyu.
09:32 ThickAsThieves so we need to rewind to where you suggest a man generally keep multiple gfs
09:33 mircea_popescu a man does generally keep multiple gfs.
09:33 Hi all - you guys are golden. Asssets/scams/2c psychology/women advice etc :) (back to lurking)
09:33 ThickAsThieves the kind he fucks?
09:33 Diablo-D3 lol
09:33 ThickAsThieves or the kind he'll talk to?
09:33 mircea_popescu [KS] hugs and kisses to you too
09:33 * Diablo-D3 has kept multiple gfs.
09:33 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yes the kind he fucks.
09:34 ThickAsThieves anytime i've attempted as much it felt more like being a triple agent than anything
09:34 mircea_popescu this "lifetime monogamy" thing is a very narrow edge case of human sexual and intimate practice.
09:34 mircea_popescu both historical and geographical.
09:34 ThickAsThieves the more they know about each other the more crazy they behave
09:34 mircea_popescu if they do dump em.
09:34 ThickAsThieves i see
09:34 mircea_popescu as per annoying rule.
09:34 ThickAsThieves heh
09:34 ThickAsThieves so simple!
09:34 mircea_popescu indeed.
09:34 mircea_popescu turns out red wire was there all along :)
09:35 ThickAsThieves and should man tolerate the reverse?
09:35 mircea_popescu up to him.
09:35 ThickAsThieves whether ity annoys him
09:35 ThickAsThieves still works i guess
09:35 mircea_popescu indeed.
09:36 mircea_popescu btw, quick question : einstein had a) no girlfriend ; b) one girlfriend c) two girlfriends or d) thirteen girlfriends.
09:36 ThickAsThieves a?
09:36 ThickAsThieves i'm going with intelligence is a burden
09:37 ThickAsThieves "Albert Einstein had half a dozen girlfriends and told his wife they showered him with "unwanted" affection, according to letters released "
09:37 mircea_popescu :p
09:37 Diablo-D3 #smartpeopleproblems
09:38 ThickAsThieves he married his cousin too
09:38 Diablo-D3 second cousin
09:38 kakobrekla did he also eat the neighbors dog?
09:38 kakobrekla smart people problems.
09:39 mircea_popescu kakobrekla no, but reports show he occasionally ate the neighbour's bitch.
09:39 kakobrekla you bitch.
09:40 mircea_popescu now to fully establish the other extreme, since nobody seems inclined, we return to scriptae :
09:41 mircea_popescu It's unfair to quote a 5 year old article but if Alone still believes _that_ analysis has validity...he's missed the forest of leeching for the victimized and disinterested trees. Many women invest their entire lives in what amounts to brazen fraud conducted and perfected to "catch" a guy who is then trapped with no idea how cruelly he's been setup.
09:41 mircea_popescu Guys lose interest. And women, who hated sex remember (they're not that type of girl), suddenly give the con away. It boils down to this; what are they bringing to the party?
09:41 mircea_popescu Emotional poison, lies, some shitty repetitive sex (I'll be more romantic when those who believe in the lie that is exclusivity eat the same meal for the rest of their lives), surrogate services, shitty cooking...It doesn't matter that I'm grossly making crude generalizations. I'm right.
09:41 mircea_popescu And the market agrees with me. Alone missed it. Porn is a better product. If girls want to compete maybe they should get real? Virtual honesty v Virtual Deceit? This is economics. No need for hysterics or water works or expressed feelings. Awwh.
09:41 mircea_popescu now THIS is self loathing.
09:42 ThickAsThieves written by a woman?
09:43 mircea_popescu http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/10/the_story_of_narcissus.html#comment-27176
09:43 ozbot The Last Psychiatrist: The Second Story Of Echo And Narcissus
09:43 mircea_popescu some guy presumably.
09:44 ThickAsThieves or so he'd like us to believe
09:44 mircea_popescu i'll give this much credit to the entire progressive movement : while in the 50s there in fact existed schools and other torture implements dedicated to reforming otherwise decent, healthy and loving human beings into the sort of very sad victims of abuse described there,
09:44 mircea_popescu it's rare now.
09:44 mircea_popescu so rare that extant examples are almost fascinating for reason of that rarity.
09:45 ThickAsThieves i imagine dating in your 30s in 40s these days is pretty much all online websites now?
09:45 chetty huh? Looks like more of those schools out there, just different rules
09:45 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves betas shower the websites, alphas let the girls suggest girls for the club.
09:45 mircea_popescu chetty how you mean ?
09:45 mircea_popescu and in completely different yet very related news, "The problem, as the president explained it, is that Putin doesnĀ’t understand how the world is supposed to work"
09:46 ThickAsThieves projection?
09:46 mircea_popescu inching along towards the "putin doesn't give a shit about the way i think the world should work"
09:46 chetty wiht 'leaders' like that no wonder world is such a mess
09:46 mircea_popescu after which, "putin is satan"
09:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.00547308 = 0.3229 BTC [-] {5}
09:46 mircea_popescu and now i shall proceed to read the log, so allow me to spam you all even more!
09:47 ThickAsThieves one thing that isnt so bad about US public communication, is if youve any hint of doubt, you can mostly assume they are saying the opposite of what's true
09:49 mircea_popescu pravda.
09:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 195 @ 0.06032577 = 11.7635 BTC [-] {10}
09:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0436 = 0.1744 BTC [-] {3}
09:55 mircea_popescu nice one kakobrekla i tweetered it.
09:56 mircea_popescu nicknode_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-03-2014#591212
09:56 mircea_popescu you don't have to pay anything, unless you're reading a lot of trilema. then it's like i don't recall, .1 cents ?
09:57 ThickAsThieves how will we protect ATC from such a fate?
09:58 mircea_popescu this is a pretty good q.
09:58 kakobrekla merged mining with btc :(
09:58 mircea_popescu my own thinking is that if we keep a reasonable floor under it it'll never be productive
09:59 ThickAsThieves i dont think it could be protected really
09:59 mircea_popescu in general the best way to reduce irrational behaviour is to control volatility.
09:59 mircea_popescu kinda the original thinking behind central banks at any rate
09:59 ThickAsThieves all it would take is one btc farm to point at it
09:59 kakobrekla go ahead and try to attack 'nmc'
09:59 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yes, but why would they ? not worth it.
09:59 mircea_popescu kakobrekla what about it ?
10:00 kakobrekla well, its much much harder than atc
10:00 ThickAsThieves so basically we cant let it bubble either
10:00 ThickAsThieves or itll draw attention
10:00 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves indeed. this baby will do a bunch if firsts.
10:01 mircea_popescu first altcoin not premined, first altcoin not allowed to bubble, etc.
10:01 ThickAsThieves time for the Altcoin Central Bank to make a trading bot
10:01 mircea_popescu i thought that's why i wrote bingoboingo.
10:01 kakobrekla how can you 'not allow' it to bubble
10:01 mircea_popescu kakobrekla by selling.
10:01 ThickAsThieves yep
10:01 ThickAsThieves large holders need to give it up when it's time
10:01 kakobrekla you cant sell enough if the things wants to bubble
10:01 mircea_popescu try me.
10:02 ThickAsThieves a new floor might be reached in the process
10:02 ThickAsThieves but trying alone will help
10:02 mircea_popescu economy may be a social science, but finance is totally an art.
10:02 kakobrekla its math, i dont need to try you
10:02 mircea_popescu :)
10:03 mircea_popescu math is only the bus ticket taking you to the concert.
10:03 ThickAsThieves "SchellingCoin: A Minimal-Trust Universal Data Feed"
10:03 kakobrekla thats fine, i hate concerts.
10:03 mircea_popescu it's gotten to where i can no longer discern parody from reality.
10:04 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you made that shit up baby ?
10:04 ThickAsThieves ive said as much before, for years
10:04 ThickAsThieves or are you asking me about SchellingCoin?
10:05 ThickAsThieves it's a fukn Ethereum thing
10:05 ThickAsThieves i cant look at any one line without pain
10:05 ThickAsThieves "The main idea here is called ā€œhedgingā€, and is best explained in the context of Bitcoin"
10:06 mircea_popescu the schelling i was asking about yea
10:06 ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/court-grants-order-freeze-hashfasts-bitcoin-wallets/
10:07 ThickAsThieves freeze the maths!
10:07 kakobrekla dafuq
10:07 mircea_popescu lolwut
10:07 mircea_popescu aaahahahaa
10:07 kakobrekla A court in Fort Worth, Texas, has granted a temporary restraining order to freeze the bitcoin wallets of ASIC mining hardware manufacturer HashFast Technologies LLC and HashFast LLC, after a customer claimed it failed to deliver hardware on time or negotiate a refund.
10:07 ThickAsThieves ā€œIt speaks to the legitimacy of cryptocurrencies and a growing understanding of their value and importance to businesses.ā€
10:07 ThickAsThieves the pains
10:07 mircea_popescu The complaint, which has a Background section with the question Ā“What the heck is a Bitcoin?Ā” also contains an attachment of 30 pages of bitcointalk forum discussion detailing the history of the story from July-August 2013.
10:08 mircea_popescu ok, i guess it's announcement time : mpex will not be honoring the forth worth court order, or any similar instrument drawn by any court.
10:08 kakobrekla why so quick to jump the gun on this while bfl can shit in peoples mouth for years now
10:08 mircea_popescu any bitcoins received as specified by mpex will be fully credited to the depositor in any and all circumstances.
10:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 830 @ 0.00084575 = 0.702 BTC [-] {6}
10:09 ThickAsThieves so now courts need to learn to freeze teh geepeegees
10:09 mircea_popescu courts need to learn the limits of their jurisdiction, preferably.
10:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 170 @ 0.00084036 = 0.1429 BTC [-] {4}
10:10 mircea_popescu "At the time of the order, on 1st October 2013, 1 BTC was worth around $126."
10:10 mircea_popescu amusingly enough...
10:11 ThickAsThieves would it be fair to stop assigning a USD value in cases of stolen coins?
10:11 ThickAsThieves 1 btc = 1btc
10:11 ThickAsThieves what is owed is 1 btc
10:11 ThickAsThieves etc
10:11 mircea_popescu in this court, yes.
10:11 mircea_popescu in a fiat court, never.
10:12 mircea_popescu anyway, im off to scream at people who are entitled to their own opinions (over my dead body). bbl.
10:13 kakobrekla ahaah
10:13 kakobrekla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Egvl9VqgE
10:14 kakobrekla i guess this guy did even worse than me
10:14 ThickAsThieves lol
10:21 ThickAsThieves so AM didnt pay any divs this week?
10:21 ThickAsThieves yet they got their first wafers on the 22nd
10:22 ThickAsThieves oh i see
10:22 ThickAsThieves "The engineering batch of packaged chips will be out in March 28th. After that we can immediately start testing on functionality and power consumption."
10:23 ThickAsThieves http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bKnU7W0YjEs/Ump234VWbOI/AAAAAAAAHRw/83ay9umkSHE/s1600/skeletor.jpg
10:23 VanCleef no divs from now on
10:23 VanCleef :(
10:29 Mats_cd03 http://nationalreport.net/bill-murray-stops-bank-robbery-tokyo-accidentally/
10:29 ozbot Bill Murray Stops Bank Robbery In Tokyo, Accidentally - National Report | National Report
10:30 Mats_cd03 ā€œWe love Bill Murray very much in our country, he is very funny manā€
10:30 Mats_cd03 huhuhu
10:30 VanCleef should have been a scene in lost in translation
10:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00094095 = 12.7499 BTC [-]
10:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00094321 = 27.919 BTC [+] {4}
10:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1319 @ 0.00094458 = 1.2459 BTC [+]
11:02 moiety good aftermewn
11:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 52 @ 0.05976153 = 3.1076 BTC [-] {5}
11:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59269707 BTC [+]
11:06 Mats_cd03 good afternoon cuties
11:06 VanCleef hey sexy
11:10 moiety hows everyone's weekend going?
11:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59376997 = 1.1875 BTC [+] {2}
11:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59484288 BTC [+]
11:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59495089 BTC [+]
11:26 jurov moiety, i'm at bitcoin hackathon... but dunno if such activity suits me
11:29 bounce so whatchu haxx0rin?
11:29 moiety jurov: not having fun? is there a fair bit of folk there?
11:30 bounce .oO( lots of the fair folk )
11:32 moiety lol // or is this the online thing?
11:40 jurov no, offline in hackerspace here
11:41 jurov but my hard of hearing ears are failing me again, i need one or few people talk directly to me, not scattered talking across the room
11:41 VanCleef wow havelock is such a fail
11:43 jurov did sth happen besides neobee?
11:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59495089 BTC [+]
11:46 VanCleef just slow as ass
11:48 VanCleef i could punch by monitor go out and buy a new one and it would still be loading
11:48 VanCleef pos
11:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59495089 BTC [+]
11:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.52610001 = 1.0522 BTC [-]
11:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.52610001 BTC [-]
11:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.52610001 = 1.0522 BTC [-]
11:53 moiety oh i found it jurov, just hit the bar... it accepts btc lol
11:54 moiety i don't recommend it VanCleef lol using a plug in monitor is such a pain
11:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.52610001 = 1.0522 BTC [-]
11:55 moiety why is it so slow VanCleef?
11:55 VanCleef bunch of shit cunts
11:55 VanCleef that's why
11:56 VanCleef probably becaouse of am news
11:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.52610001 = 5.261 BTC [-] {2}
11:57 VanCleef hope that was me
11:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.52610001 = 3.6827 BTC [-] {2}
11:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.59523285 = 4.7619 BTC [+] {4}
11:59 VanCleef sweet i got the 52's
11:59 * VanCleef punches monitor anyway
11:59 moiety lol ^
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.44023839 BTC to 4`859 shares, 50221 satoshi per share
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60720341 BTC [+]
12:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.54 = 1.62 BTC [-]
12:07 dexX7 am @ 0.54? ouch
12:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6074 = 1.2148 BTC [+]
12:16 Mats_cd03 bet itll go to 0.49 by tomorrow
12:16 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5959710#msg5959710
12:16 ozbot [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
12:16 kakobrekla lel wtf is this
12:17 VanCleef http://guardianlv.com/2014/01/ageing-successfully-reversed-in-mice-human-trials-to-begin-next/
12:17 Diablo-D3 nice
12:19 artifexd Friedcat says the chips work. Price goes down. /confused
12:19 artifexd https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg5967983#msg5967983
12:19 ozbot ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It
12:20 VanCleef what i think happened artifexd is that the page is choking up so much and people are in a panic to buy that they accidently confusing buy with sell instead
12:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00093949 = 3.1943 BTC [-]
12:21 Mats_cd03 ...lol
12:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.609 BTC [+]
12:32 dexX7 hey nubbins`, do you still have the "friedcat for president" picture somewhere? :)
12:38 nubbins` ah! that actually wasn't mine
12:38 nubbins` the one with granny blades, ya mean?
12:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.611 BTC [+]
12:40 dexX7 yea
12:41 dexX7 http://www.asicminercharts.com/Friedcat4President.big.jpg
12:45 nubbins` that was the inspiration for the shirts i did :D
12:46 dexX7 hehe i see :))
12:46 dexX7 must be almost a year ago now
12:47 * VanCleef chants "4 more years, 4 more years."
12:49 nubbins` june 2013
12:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00597555 = 0.1076 BTC [+] {4}
12:50 pankkake my friedcat shirt is already damaged
12:50 pankkake scam
12:53 dexX7 well anyway. is havelock going up in flames or was the issue yesterday related to neo?
12:55 nubbins` pankkake that's what happens if you wear it every day ;(
12:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00609199 = 0.1401 BTC [+] {5}
12:56 nubbins` !t h neobee
12:56 assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00185115 / 0.00207973 / 0.00242900 (6781 shares, 14.10264829 BTC), 7D: 0.00155000 / 0.00245529 / 0.00328800 (115967 shares, 284.73313362 BTC), 30D: 0.00155000 / 0.00357882 / 0.00567777 (513634 shares, 1838.20473331 BTC)
12:56 nubbins` !
12:56 dexX7 trading was frozen
12:56 dexX7 or still is, not sure
12:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61599 BTC [+]
12:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.61592499 = 2.4637 BTC [-] {3}
12:58 VanCleef yeh neobee still frozen
12:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0449 = 0.1796 BTC [+] {2}
12:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.61825499 = 6.1825 BTC [+] {6}
12:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.006099 = 0.122 BTC [+]
12:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.00739898 = 0.7399 BTC [-] {3}
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12:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.62634867 = 12.527 BTC [+] {8}
12:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00094208 = 5.3228 BTC [+]
13:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 180 @ 0.00609998 = 1.098 BTC [+] {4}
13:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06948434 = 0.6948 BTC [+] {2}
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13:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19192 @ 0.00094393 = 18.1159 BTC [+] {4}
13:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.62835386 = 8.1686 BTC [+] {4}
13:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.62893889 = 1.2579 BTC [+] {2}
13:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.045 = 0.135 BTC [+]
13:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.63809121 = 19.1427 BTC [+] {7}
13:31 mircea_popescu i muxed the who ?
13:32 mircea_popescu i need someone to translate the forum for the people who normally translate the forum for me ;/
13:33 dexX7 wat
13:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.64506666 = 1.9352 BTC [+] {2}
13:34 mircea_popescu "Yeah, come at me gobment bro! Ahm behind 7 proxies! MPEX got an anthrax email from NSA but he muxed it to double sideband at a lower baud rate and now he's in ur base, killing ur d00dz."
13:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.6467996 = 6.468 BTC [+]
13:34 mircea_popescu anyone's guess
13:35 asciilifeform 'mux' - multiplexer
13:35 dexX7 haha
13:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, i know that part.
13:36 asciilifeform http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Double-sideband_suppressed-carrier_transmission.html
13:36 ozbot Double-sideband suppressed-carrier transmission
13:36 mircea_popescu that's the problem, the words taken disparate work, but somehow they've been put in a soup that fails to anything
13:36 asciilifeform nth generation 'xerox' of a 'ham radio' joke
13:36 mircea_popescu oh
13:37 asciilifeform probably from a hollywood flick
13:37 mircea_popescu but... DSB-SC is about lower power
13:37 mircea_popescu baud rate dun enter into it
13:37 mircea_popescu well technically better coverage i guess, since your power's your power.
13:37 asciilifeform in hollywood, they appear to use 'shannonizers' to write technical dialogu
13:37 asciilifeform e
13:38 asciilifeform and get pieces like this.
13:38 mircea_popescu ic
13:38 asciilifeform where'd the turd come from?
13:39 mircea_popescu le forum
13:39 asciilifeform aha
13:39 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5959710#msg5959710
13:39 ozbot [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
13:39 asciilifeform loltron
13:42 dexX7 wait. you are herp?
13:42 dexX7 ah nvm
13:42 blackwhite hola gents
13:42 mircea_popescu ello
13:42 dexX7 hi
13:43 tg2 Lol hashfast
13:43 tg2 I told you guys, they aren't even building their own hardware
13:45 tg2 I know the owner of the company who is assembling their hardware
13:45 asciilifeform very few people do assembly in-house
13:45 dexX7 ^
13:46 asciilifeform not that 'vertical integration' is unheard of, but it rarely makes sense for a small electronics firm to buy pick'n'place apparatus, ovens, etc.
13:46 tg2 I could go over there and jack all their units
13:47 tg2 But there aren't any lol
13:47 tg2 Anyway, waiting for alpha-t to get sued into the ground
13:47 asciilifeform one can get a pick'n'placer for $20-40K (USD), but it isn't magic - someone clueful has to run it
13:48 asciilifeform like any machine tool, really.
13:48 asciilifeform even the fabled '3d printer'
13:48 asciilifeform tends to piss itself half the time, if left alone.
13:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00618023 = 0.1421 BTC [+] {5}
13:51 dexX7 related: i was approached by hashfast last year to be a forum shill with a payment of $15/hour in babyjet credits - i declined
13:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.64788461 = 8.4225 BTC [+] {2}
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13:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00619998 = 1.24 BTC [+]
13:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.6554 = 6.554 BTC [+] {4}
13:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00619998 = 1.86 BTC [+]
14:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2909 @ 0.00094573 = 2.7511 BTC [+]
14:02 Duffer1 i'm not even a little surprised
14:06 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/heres-an-idea-for-you/
14:06 ozbot Hereā€™s an idea for you pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
14:07 mircea_popescu dexX7 you know, judging by the perpetual X is paid by MPEx "discoveries", "research" and so forth on the forum, im starting to suspect i may be the only one not doing this.
14:08 mircea_popescu too quickly they think of it for them to not be doing it.
14:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: one can buy marine radar domes quite small enough to fit on a car.
14:08 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah, but i would imagine a better adjusted thing may be developed.
14:09 mircea_popescu i mean, marine radar is not biased for concrete say
14:09 asciilifeform i vaguely recall that a recent mercedes has radar of some form
14:09 kakobrekla it doesnt work very well
14:10 mircea_popescu they've been toying with "assisted parking" for quite a while.
14:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.66905732 = 14.7193 BTC [+] {7}
14:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06939704 = 0.2082 BTC [-] {2}
14:11 mircea_popescu anyway, whosoever gets anywhere even near a deliverable with this tyhing is getting bought out in short order, and in the higher millions.
14:11 asciilifeform afaik, the only parking-related car widget worth mentioning is that japanese mod where all four wheels turn
14:11 asciilifeform moving the car sideways
14:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6747038 BTC [+]
14:12 mircea_popescu that and the tentacles.
14:12 asciilifeform bought out in short order, and in the higher millions << might be a little problem once the car behind/in front/side of yours has emitters
14:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, you polarize the lasers, you use modulated radar, there's solutions
14:13 asciilifeform then you get folks who go 'well, if we're already broadcasting, let's make exact position radio mandatory, like lights'
14:13 kakobrekla mux it to lower band rate?
14:13 mircea_popescu kakobrekla exactly!
14:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah well, the perennial possibility of idiots does not really constitute a counterargument.
14:14 mircea_popescu i never hear anyone propose abstinence on the grounds that fucking may become obligatory otherwise.
14:14 asciilifeform lol
14:14 mircea_popescu :D
14:14 mircea_popescu and yet it has!
14:14 tg2 I had one idea for a car invention
14:14 asciilifeform anyone recall the widget the americans used in vietnam, that picked up rf noise from cars?
14:15 tg2 Proximity sensors on the end of your doors and hydraulic inhibitors on the door hinges
14:15 tg2 So your door doesn't open into somebody's car
14:15 tg2 it would stop just before
14:15 asciilifeform tg2: that, or rubber bumpers.
14:15 mircea_popescu rubber bumps sounds cheaperr
14:15 tg2 Nope this is sans contact
14:16 tg2 And it stops before
14:16 mircea_popescu if anyone's seen cars in like rome etc... the even cheaper alternative would be "people stop giving a shit about scratches"
14:16 tg2 Not putting rubber door bumpers on my 150,000 merc
14:16 mircea_popescu latin america is like that too
14:16 asciilifeform i've always thought it odd, that no one, lambo or trambo, makes a car with standardized panels for the outside
14:16 asciilifeform which one could unbolt and swap at one's leisure
14:16 mircea_popescu no car contains a flat surface of as much as a square inch
14:17 asciilifeform they needn't be flat and rigid
14:17 tg2 If it can be done with backup proximity sensors
14:17 tg2 That technology is already nature
14:17 tg2 Subsurface too now
14:17 mircea_popescu asciilifeform actually even since the japanese have been working on their female android women replacements, i've been thinking "they'll make cars out of that skin material just as soon as possible"
14:18 asciilifeform lol!
14:18 tg2 They have scratch repairing paint already
14:18 tg2 nissan invented it
14:18 asciilifeform anyone have the ancient link to the piece re: korean students who go through 2-3 of the 'androids' per year?
14:18 moiety they need robot women replacements with all the people like karpeles going over and buying their women
14:19 mircea_popescu moiety think about all the time this is saving you.
14:19 mircea_popescu kitchen robots were nothing.
14:20 * moiety is happy with a toaster, you know this ;P
14:21 mircea_popescu "even a blind toaster can pinch a careless nipple", or how did that russian proverb go
14:22 asciilifeform 'Social skills will decline markedly after the advent of sex robots, much like the way electronic calculators degraded arithmetic skills. Because sex robots will finally allow men to be themselves. This will make men even less desirable to real women than they are already, driving men to seek solace with sex robots even more. The cycle will be vicious and I canĀ’t wait for it to start.'
14:22 moiety lolololol
14:22 asciilifeform (infamous usenet sage - http://www.myrsky.net/danimal-archive-part-8/index.html)
14:23 moiety i dont know any russian proverbs unless manuls are involved
14:25 mircea_popescu i dunno about that, tbh. if anything, it'll remove a lot of pressure to perform from the mishoden, dysfunctional male humans, which'll make it so much better for the healthy.
14:25 asciilifeform 'Some women might, however, choose to coexist with sexbots, just as some European women as they get older tolerate their husbands taking up with younger mistresses. The aging wife gets to keep her status and her stable home. She has all the trappings of marriage, but she no longer functions as her husbandĀ’s sexual outlet.'
14:25 mircea_popescu take sports : a sport that's popular is annoying because all the inept idiots insist to play it.
14:25 mircea_popescu a sport that's not popular is usually a lot more fun
14:25 moietybot MOTD http://i.imgur.com/gdAGwfl.jpg
14:26 mircea_popescu moietybot should be known as moietybooty
14:26 mircea_popescu lol
14:26 moiety LOL mircea_popescu i dont think i have a big enough arse to qualify
14:26 mircea_popescu so work it girl!
14:26 asciilifeform moietybot: someone ought to cross-breed manul with the argentinian 'colocolo' - to get a thicker-yet beast
14:27 mircea_popescu or with an eagle.
14:27 mircea_popescu to give it wings.
14:27 mircea_popescu imagine! flying manul.
14:27 moiety i just want one big enough to ride around on, is that so much to ask?
14:27 asciilifeform most 'felis' can actually cross.
14:27 moiety omg stuff your flying japanese girl covered cars, i want a flying manul!
14:27 asciilifeform e.g. african 'serval' and housecat
14:27 mircea_popescu moiety would you ride around on it naked holding a spear ?
14:27 moiety so much YES
14:28 ThickAsThieves <mircea_popescu> http://trilema.com/2014/heres-an-idea-for-you/ --- Futura is my favorite typeface, but the world seems to be catching on
14:28 mircea_popescu we could call it "the walk of the moieties"
14:28 moiety wait, can i has a crossbow?
14:28 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves well it also depends on the application imo
14:28 asciilifeform 'The in-laws wonĀ’t be as much of a problem either because the male in-laws will be preoccupied with sexbots of their own, therefore they will have less time on their hands to spend meddling in the lives of their relatives. At family gatherings, the men will gather around to trade sexbot programs, while the women will gather to complain about the menĀ’s sexbots. Or may women will play with their catbots and
14:28 asciilifeform be happy, while their Oprah-bots listen to them talk about their problems and simulate interest.'
14:28 mircea_popescu but what do i know, my interaction with typo design was limited to being the phb for a few years.
14:29 jurov moiety crossbow is fine as long as you don't wear armor with duck-beaked helmet
14:29 ThickAsThieves it's certainly got more character than Helvetica
14:29 ThickAsThieves no pun intended
14:29 mircea_popescu helvetica is overblown.
14:29 mircea_popescu jurov duck beaked helmet isn't so bad...
14:30 mircea_popescu maybe she could have mmorpg style armor : something to protect her pubic bone and something on her shoulders.
14:30 mircea_popescu because we all know that's where armor is really needed.
14:30 moiety jurov, nah im not getting clothes so its cool
14:30 moiety actually, pubic bones... yeah what mircea_popescu said
14:31 jurov http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/raharnett/Armor/1%20to%201%20Armored%20ladies/Best%20of%20Fantaghiro%20550%20wide/m_m_Fantaghiro154_kl.jpg avoided
14:31 mircea_popescu moiety armor where the hair grows. it's how the greeks did it...
14:31 moiety asciilifeform: jeez... these wee buggers have stripey legs....are you trying to make me have no free time at all?! http://cdn2.arkive.org/media/C4/C40A617A-375F-4208-9D7E-B2EB473F867D/Presentation.Large/Pampas-cat-.jpg
14:31 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/dc2043f30877570e1ccc2451e97cce1a/tumblr_n2psavBj7c1qdzsj9o1_500.jpg
14:32 mircea_popescu that looks uncomfortable enough...
14:32 moiety looks chilly to me
14:32 moiety i do live in scotland
14:32 moiety but.. manuls are soooo fluffy... compensation?!
14:32 mircea_popescu http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3pskvGwyE1rvykkqo1_500.jpg
14:32 mircea_popescu somewhat derpier.
14:33 mircea_popescu ok, ok, this one you'll prolly like : http://25.media.tumblr.com/e854664589be0afcb7ee9410996a2149/tumblr_mthdk6921q1reohnuo1_500.jpg
14:35 mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/13295acff0139c305bbddf582bb1065f/tumblr_n2a1vkaRIu1s0wwqso1_500.jpg << and this could be your accountant/pass through operator / travel arrangements arranger.
14:36 asciilifeform 'If the worldĀ’s most beautiful women want to be gold-diggers, thatĀ’s their right. It doesnĀ’t Ā“humiliateĀ” me. It merely establishes what I would have to obtain (namely, wealth and fame) if I wanted to bang some of those women. The actual women, that is. Technology may provide an easier alternative. And a more intellectually satisfying alternative too.'
14:36 asciilifeform 'ItĀ’s interesting to consider which genderĀ’s ideal can be realized first with technology. It should be a lot easier for technology to simulate Howard SternĀ’s girlfriend (for the satisfaction of men) than for technology to simulate Howard Stern (for the satisfaction of women). With Howard Stern, the salient feature is the success, and the relative status. If every man had a $500 million satellite radio co
14:36 asciilifeform ntract, they would all be merely average again in the eyes of women. (Consider that the average US working stiff is fantastically wealthy in Medieval terms, but modern US women have simply raised their materialistic requirements commensurately.)
14:36 asciilifeform With Howard SternĀ’s girlfriend, the salient features are absolute: her looks and her receptive behavior. If every woman looked similarly good, and behaved as adoringly toward the average working stiff, they would still look good. (A man can test this hypothesis by viewing photographs of thousands of attractive women. Even after massive, pervasive exposure, they still look good. In fact, pornography can be un
14:36 asciilifeform derstood as an attempt by men to democratize the experience of enjoying beautiful women. So far, technology hasnĀ’t been up to the taskĀ—actual beautiful women are still betterĀ—but technology will keep improving.)'
14:36 mircea_popescu sigh. they're not gold diggers ffs.
14:36 asciilifeform (last turd. anyone who wants more can visit the site)
14:36 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2010/sa-facem-o-regula/
14:36 ozbot Sa facem o regula pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
14:37 mircea_popescu sadly, in romanian. but apparently same problems exist in english too
14:37 mircea_popescu " With Howard Stern, the salient feature is the success, and the relative status." god help us. that's the salient feature ?
14:37 asciilifeform incidentally, this fellow, afaik, was not a psychiatric case himself, but for some reason enjoyed trolling usenet groups full of such
14:38 asciilifeform 'alt.support.sad' whatever
14:38 mircea_popescu good troll then.
14:38 asciilifeform one of the best that ever lived, imho
14:38 mircea_popescu and no, the avg working stiff is by no means richer than the average medieval iobag
14:38 mircea_popescu not by a long shot.
14:38 moiety i'd totally wear these http://img1.etsystatic.com/041/1/7659305/il_340x270.507047681_66jn.jpg and http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mHOZ9IRxq8LqUrOY5U6Fa8g.jpg
14:38 mircea_popescu asciilifeform name ?
14:38 mircea_popescu moiety you ever been in a corset ?
14:38 asciilifeform dan mocsny
14:39 mircea_popescu not a corselet/bodice/otherbs.
14:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform sounds hungarian.
14:39 asciilifeform afaik he's still alive, somewhere in ohio (u.s.) but only posts to groups re: competitive bicycling
14:39 asciilifeform as to when is the next race, etc.
14:39 moiety not a proper, someone else laces you in at the back one. mine had bones but laced up both sides instead
14:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform so invite him over!
14:40 mircea_popescu moiety yeah. they're not that comfortable to wear, esp for teh noob/peasant girl that wasn't raised with them.
14:40 mircea_popescu that metal thing is that much less forgiving
14:40 moiety looks cool tho
14:41 mircea_popescu sure. pain usually looks cool on women.
14:41 mircea_popescu honest signal.
14:41 asciilifeform https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=alt.support.shyness/asmq8JHi00E/tKRODrKPI5UJ
14:41 asciilifeform (apologies for the line noise)
14:42 mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5wojc4dWL1rrf2v2o3_250.jpg
14:42 mircea_popescu what better way to spend a summer
14:42 mircea_popescu than cooking your boobs
14:42 mircea_popescu asciilifeform hmm, i should be on alt.support.shyness.
14:42 Mats_cd03 meow
14:42 asciilifeform and if you need to cook something else, take the parabolic reflectors off and prop in the sun.
14:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: idk if that snakepit still exists
14:43 asciilifeform this crap is very ancient history
14:43 asciilifeform then again, a usenet group can never really die
14:43 asciilifeform like a soviet satellite in 'graveyard orbit'
14:44 asciilifeform much of usenet is, unfortunately, parked in graveyard orbit.
14:44 mircea_popescu pretty much yeah afaik
14:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 646 @ 0.00631207 = 4.0776 BTC [+] {10}
14:46 moiety <mircea_popescu> than cooking your boobs << lmfao
14:46 asciilifeform herr mocsny was once called an 'intellectual father' of the 'pua' folks.
14:47 moiety whatever happened to people liking other people for who they were? have i been under a rock too long?
14:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 600 @ 0.00649968 = 3.8998 BTC [+] {2}
14:48 mircea_popescu moiety show me people who ARE something and i'll consider it.
14:48 blackwhite so complicated
14:49 benkay morning
14:50 bitcoinpete morning
14:50 blackwhite morning ben
14:50 benkay met more crazy people
14:50 benkay why ams bitcoinfolk so insane?
14:50 moiety it depends what makes a person someone for you though. there arent enuogh people with personality now
14:50 blackwhite because it attracts the best and the worst kind of people
14:50 mircea_popescu ^
14:50 blackwhite all the scammers with the ideologists
14:50 mircea_popescu the best kinds of people often actually being the worst kinds of people.
14:51 mircea_popescu http://24.media.tumblr.com/bc0276413c99b37fbff1b0b57bf5d6e9/tumblr_n0rxoeRLA41raeqk4o1_500.jpg
14:51 moiety glad to see you made it through the night benkay, did a neighbour pop by to feed you?
14:51 benkay "entrepreneurs"
14:51 mircea_popescu epic fucking boots already.
14:51 moiety I want the sword :(
14:51 moiety for my collection
14:52 asciilifeform that sword probably weighs more than the girl.
14:52 mircea_popescu yeah it's a decent bastard isn't it
14:52 moiety ikr
14:52 moiety bet my hattori is sharper tho :P
14:52 asciilifeform archaelogists love to point out how lightweight most actual, historical armaments were.
14:52 asciilifeform compared with theatrical junk
14:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well, actual weapons exist to not be seen, but used. thatrical stuff the converse.
14:53 blackwhite i just like the girl fuck all the other stuff
14:53 asciilifeform correct
14:53 mircea_popescu blackwhite you're not perverse enough to be here then!
14:54 asciilifeform ;;google an officer without a sword is improperly dressed
14:54 gribble Jack Churchill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill>; Badass of the Week: Jack Churchill: <http://badassoftheweek.com/churchill.html>; Any Officer Who Goes Into Action Without His Sword is Improperly ...: <http://www.damninteresting.com/any-officer-who-goes-into-action-without-his-sword-is-improperly-dressed/>
14:54 benkay the girl is boring
14:54 benkay everything is boring
14:54 mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/e9dd3e0186471f51567b587874520eec/tumblr_mymc7r98ai1rlitzfo1_500.jpg << now we know where benkay cooked his breakfast dinner.
14:54 benkay i am hungover
14:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.0009467 = 11.9284 BTC [+] {2}
14:54 benkay wat
14:55 bitcoinpete and it's portland so there's no sun
14:56 benkay no there you're wrong
14:56 benkay for these current ten minutes there is sun
14:56 mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/2a10ba9ae434659a77f1cfcbe1ec2c4f/tumblr_mz62od0Ovm1sdxszuo5_500.jpg ok, better girl, smaller sword.
14:56 mircea_popescu is that some wakizashi ?
14:56 benkay we have a crazy microclimate that's always flipping and flopping through various precipitation states
14:56 benkay local chaos zone
14:56 benkay mmm. reds.
14:57 benkay so hey are we distinguishing between incompetence and malice in Bitcoin these days, mircea_popescu ?
14:58 benkay i was under the impression everything just got lumped under 'scam'
14:58 asciilifeform incompetence + persistence ~= malice.
14:58 mircea_popescu ha! good eq.
14:58 mircea_popescu "sufficiently persistent incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."
14:59 moiety i'd say this http://funniesandhunnies.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/image_9.jpg
14:59 benkay is that you and your daikatana, moiety ?
14:59 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1763472/plain/)
14:59 asciilifeform !b 4
15:00 mircea_popescu benkay no, it's her and her loubotin sandals. the sword's a prop.
15:00 moiety lolnope i have a hattori hunting as my pride and joy, i'd love one though.. plus i am the same colour as paper
15:00 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/f9f30e28541c33bfea61fa7858deae49/tumblr_n22osz6Ym91rlitzfo1_500.jpg
15:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06894998 = 0.6895 BTC [+] {2}
15:04 moiety i'd take the dog too
15:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23448 @ 0.00094684 = 22.2015 BTC [+] {3}
15:14 mircea_popescu andyfletcher btw, get in the wot will you.
15:18 tg2 You guys blade heads?
15:22 andyfletcher mircea_popescu, am on wot just wasn't authenticated
15:23 tg2 ;;ident andyfletcher
15:23 gribble Nick 'andyfletcher', with hostmask 'andyfletcher!~andy@unaffiliated/uksv29', is identified as user 'andyfletcher', with GPG key id 502409E67767E3C6, key fingerprint 7104459391233F576A31B5CD502409E67767E3C6, and bitcoin address 17fZJ7UNTTxA2hrPLFvuNHbBnqpXJ31GB6
15:24 * andyfletcher grins "Is me"
15:24 mircea_popescu o hey :)
15:35 mircea_popescu nice new pic bitcoinpete
15:36 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu the alt-twitter one?
15:37 mircea_popescu ya
15:37 bitcoinpete ty. it's actually slightly older
15:38 bitcoinpete i just thought your car-minded piece was better directed at my car-minded followers
15:38 bitcoinpete reading lots of ballas today
15:39 bitcoinpete http://www.uq.edu.au/hprcflex/lt2310/sallust1.htm
15:39 bitcoinpete latin too
15:47 jurov mircea_popescu: withdrawals pls
15:59 mircea_popescu jurov on it.
15:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform here's a thought : how about rng based on measuring instantaneous polarisation of Nd:YAG laser ?
16:00 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: feasible - expensive
16:00 mircea_popescu the garnets aren't really that expensive anymore are they ?
16:00 asciilifeform and possibly subject to thermal effects
16:01 mircea_popescu yes but immune to any em effects
16:01 mircea_popescu such that geiger is not
16:01 asciilifeform cheaper to have a johnson rng in a shield
16:01 mircea_popescu are the aluminium garnets really that expensive still ?!
16:02 asciilifeform regardless of what type of rng, analogue portion of circuit must be shielded
16:02 mircea_popescu this is true.
16:04 bitcoinpete ;;ident bitcoinpete
16:04 gribble Nick 'bitcoinpete', with hostmask 'bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@S01060016cbc6cced.ed.shawcable.net', is identified as user 'bitcoinpete', with GPG key id 165749929F9A6BDD, key fingerprint E6625CC14638C4CA404694E9165749929F9A6BDD, and bitcoin address None
16:04 asciilifeform lasers also age very dramatically (less the case for semiconductor laser, but remains)
16:05 asciilifeform of course, anything ages. geiger tube is good for a few yrs.
16:05 bitcoinpete ;;rate benkay 1 helped teach me that variety speak
16:06 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user benkay has been recorded.
16:06 mircea_popescu yeah afaik ss lasers don't age that fast.
16:08 asciilifeform a sane rng is always shielded, not only to keep out noise (natural or otherwise) but to avoid broadcasting state.
16:09 bitcoinpete ;;rate artifexd 1 generously lent btc
16:09 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user artifexd has been recorded.
16:24 asciilifeform http://io.ua/6346977
16:38 kakobrekla looper-os.org down ?
16:38 bounce re hud and laser rangefinders, IIRC jaguar went on discovery ages ago with something built into the windshield, and ir lamps+imagers. and bmw also did somethingorother along those lines.
16:39 kakobrekla eh
16:39 kakobrekla loper-os.org
16:39 kakobrekla i always think of that looper movie.
16:40 mircea_popescu bounce how come nothing much came of it ?
16:40 mircea_popescu (ipads aren't particularly innovative eithger, in that strict sense)
16:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.006499 = 0.6824 BTC [-]
16:41 mircea_popescu kakobrekla seems to be up ?
16:42 kakobrekla im getting an error page
16:43 bounce don't have details, but could well be a proof of concept thingy, like those concept cars that never go beyond the single prototype made.
16:46 mircea_popescu yah maybe
16:57 moiety i get an error page too kakobrekla
16:57 kakobrekla yeah but for MP it will work even if his net is shut off
16:59 kakobrekla we should use him as a proxy
16:59 moiety lololol
16:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11949 @ 0.00094524 = 11.2947 BTC [-] {2}
17:00 moiety the nfs site is down too
17:03 mircea_popescu lol
17:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nao it fails for me too
17:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.0064991 = 0.234 BTC [-] {2}
17:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00094699 = 7.7653 BTC [+]
17:12 moiety i get a security warning now
17:14 moiety they must be mid-fix because the nfs logo works now
17:14 Dimsler_ maybe someone is trying to steal your buttcoins?
17:21 moiety i see havelock's homepage is only updated with the 'good' news and the most up-to-date is buried
17:22 mircea_popescu that's how you do pr, according to people who have no qualification, training or experience in the field.
17:22 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg5962028#msg5962028
17:22 ozbot BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC)
17:22 mircea_popescu which one of you oops i mean which one of me is that ?
17:22 kakobrekla dafuk dat thing is still going
17:23 mircea_popescu kakobrekla dat thing is endless. mtgox will be long forgotten
17:24 mircea_popescu "I am not publicly broadcasting my business plan due to its unique nature meant to take advantage of the market."
17:24 * lnovy giggles
17:26 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93003.0
17:26 ozbot Dank Bank Deposits - dank's soul is claimed - New music Nov 30th
17:26 mircea_popescu pretty epic blast from the past
17:26 mircea_popescu "Hello, everyone, my name is Dank and I'm here to prove my worthiness as an investment. "
17:26 mircea_popescu "By the end of this year, 2012, I believe I will be a highly known guitarist/musician."
17:26 mircea_popescu "This time frame may seem unrealistically short, for I have only started playing electric guitar towards the end of August, but recent realizations have led me to believe this is possible."
17:27 mircea_popescu "Humans have been evolving exponentially for some time now, with advances in technology and communication lessening the time needed for the same amount of change to occur. Logically, following this pattern, there will come a time when more change happens in an hour than has happened in the last millennium. Through meditation, connecting to a higher consciousness within, and communicating these ideas, I've had the epi
17:27 mircea_popescu phany that 2012 is a real event."
17:27 mircea_popescu and i have to stop there.
17:27 kakobrekla nice logo
17:27 mircea_popescu kakobrekla did you notice it has a shadow ?
17:27 kakobrekla yep
17:28 kakobrekla its better than cognitive, even if it has less colors
17:28 mircea_popescu but did you know that dropshadows lift the type off the page as if they are 3d?
17:28 asciilifeform '55 minutes ago: After an unplanned maintenance reboot, one of our fileservers did not come back
17:28 asciilifeform online. We have people investigating, and in parallel we are rolling a new
17:28 asciilifeform server with a backup from about an hour before the reboot.'
17:28 asciilifeform (from me hoster)
17:29 kakobrekla O_o
17:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 318 @ 0.006499 = 2.0667 BTC [-]
17:29 kakobrekla lesson no1. never ever reboot the server.
17:30 mircea_popescu servers that are rebooted are not really the same servers anymore.
17:30 mircea_popescu anyway, let the log reflect the new coinage "unplanned maintenance reboot".
17:30 mircea_popescu "shit joe, reboot it see if it works then"
17:31 mircea_popescu the power cycle that's intentional but unexpected.
17:31 asciilifeform this happens every few years at nfs corp. but i really love that hoster
17:31 lnovy you can fix everything with reboot... from stucked mouse to mysql table corruption...
17:31 asciilifeform i don't think it gets any cheaper for low-traffic crap
17:31 mircea_popescu asciilifeform im sure it's perfectly fine for hosting a blog etc.
17:31 mircea_popescu but still very amusing.
17:31 asciilifeform that's more or less what people use it for.
17:32 asciilifeform it isn't a rack company - all vm, afaik
17:32 asciilifeform of course, i post so rarely that perhaps 90% of it is not only in 'google cache' but 'archive.org'
17:33 mircea_popescu http://www.27bslash6.com/strata.html
17:33 ozbot The ducks in the bathroom are not mine.
17:33 mircea_popescu nubbins` ^
17:33 mircea_popescu tenants from hell.
17:34 asciilifeform http://www.27bslash6.com/flash.html
17:34 ozbot I am able to move small objects with my mind.
17:35 mircea_popescu like... penises.
17:36 mircea_popescu "I have read your website and it is obviously that your a foggot."
17:37 lnovy i god, i'm laughting like hell...
17:38 mircea_popescu hey, did i ever tell you folks about the one time i got kicked out of a gay club ?
17:38 mircea_popescu which is also the only time i ever got kicked out of anywhere, club or anything else.
17:38 mircea_popescu i didn't torch the place in revenge, either.
17:39 jurov what did you do there?
17:40 mircea_popescu what one normally does in a club. drank and yelled at people.
17:40 mircea_popescu what do you want me to do, dance ?!
17:40 jurov lol i was not asking that in accusatory manner
17:41 tg2 http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoinmining/comments/21o422/future_of_scrypt_gpu_and_asic/cgf6o1k
17:41 tg2 sneaky knc
17:41 tg2 can't say I blame them tho
17:42 tg2 I got thrown out of a club once with a $8000 tab
17:42 tg2 I just went home
17:42 tg2 lol
17:42 tg2 chepest night in a club so far
17:42 tg2 the promoter called me back for 2 weeks after crying and begging me to come back
17:43 mircea_popescu they're too noobish around here to actualy have promoters.
17:43 tg2 montreal has a huge club scene
17:43 tg2 probably more clubs per capita than anywhere I know
17:43 mircea_popescu timisoara is roughly speaking a smaller akron, ohio.
17:43 tg2 sounds.... exciting
17:43 tg2 lol
17:44 mircea_popescu well let's put it this way... in an actual town ever working class cunts can have fun.
17:45 mircea_popescu it takes a real hellhole to really select the funhavers.
17:45 tg2 http://www.renting-tm.ro/sites/default/files/media/sliders/c2.jpg
17:45 tg2 your women look very slavic
17:45 tg2 is romania even considered slavic?
17:46 tg2 I know that ukrain, serbia bulgaria are
17:46 mircea_popescu nah.
17:46 asciilifeform Ro has, what, 5+ ethnic groups ?
17:46 tg2 (oops, i mean... southeastern russia, lol)
17:46 tg2 but, all sides of it are slavic...
17:46 mircea_popescu it's ~85% romanian, some hungarian, trace other dozen or so elements
17:47 mircea_popescu i have no idea how you figure those women look "Slavic"
17:47 tg2 only by hungary is it not slavic
17:47 tg2 cheek structure
17:47 asciilifeform the gypsies (any left in Ro?) aren't the least bit slavic
17:47 tg2 high pointy cheeks
17:47 tg2 lol gypsies
17:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform some, yeah. a mil or so.
17:48 mircea_popescu for one thing, "slavic" would be blonde.
17:48 mircea_popescu anyway, i'll bbl we can continue teh racism then.
17:51 tg2 this auroracoin aftermath is luls
17:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3605 @ 0.00094701 = 3.414 BTC [+] {2}
17:58 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: servers that are rebooted are not really the same servers anymore << i bet i'm not the only one who wonders why kernel-in-ROM never caught on
17:59 asciilifeform (naturally, rom with physical switch for write-enable)
18:00 asciilifeform one reason might be that pc architecture, almost always by default, 'shadows' roms
18:00 asciilifeform that is, copies them to cacheable RAM on boot
18:00 asciilifeform (executing from rom, esp. the 'serial' 8-legged variety, is dog-slow)
18:00 jurov i bought such mobo with dual bios
18:00 jurov but never actually tried it
18:01 jurov ( gigabyte )
18:01 asciilifeform typically these have a toggle that moves the clock/data line from 1 serial rom to another
18:01 asciilifeform for recovering from botched flashes.
18:01 asciilifeform these used to be popular in the wake of the '90s 'chernoble' virus
18:01 asciilifeform but have mostly disappeared
18:01 asciilifeform any serious pc user should own a rom burner anyway
18:02 asciilifeform chinese units are 20-50 usd
18:03 jurov one usually does it once in 5 years... not sure if it's worth the occupied space
18:03 asciilifeform space?! they're pocket-sized
18:03 asciilifeform or you meant, on the board
18:04 jurov yes i meant... hundred pocket sized gizmos to be used once in 5 yrs + cables = several boxen labeled shit and "more shit"
18:05 jurov it's annoying
18:05 truffles yay shit
18:05 asciilifeform a box with zapped rom is considerably more annoying, imho
18:05 asciilifeform if buying a rom burner, helps to get the kind that takes SOIC-8 socket adapters, for laptop flash
18:08 cads hey has anyone hear if something bad is happening with auroracoin?
18:08 truffles cads into alts hmm
18:09 cads doge for life
18:11 cads about 10 days ago auroracoin put $300 worth of auroracoin up for any icelandic citizen to grab
18:11 nubbins` mircea_popescu: "and I experienced complete awareness", lel
18:11 nubbins` i've read that one in the past
18:12 truffles not possible
18:12 cads since then citizens have had their identities forged, the value of the AUR has dropped like 75% and now people are saying AUR is being hit by a 51% attack
18:13 cads the chaos is kinda awesome but I can't figure what's going on
18:13 truffles get a blackbox ull know it all
18:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00094734 = 19.0415 BTC [+] {2}
18:14 tg2 ponzidoge.com... lol
18:14 tg2 8m dogecoin in 15 minutes
18:14 cads Hilarious :)
18:15 tg2 shit is killin it
18:15 tg2 ltcponzi was $7000 worth of ltc in 45 mins yesterday
18:15 tg2 this is the new satoshidice
18:15 Mats_cd03 where do i acquire such a chinese made rom burner
18:15 tg2 dev said btc is coming soon
18:16 cads haha, awesome
18:24 cads thanks for sharing, tg2, that's delightful
18:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0568 = 0.3408 BTC [+]
18:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0568 = 0.2272 BTC [+] {2}
18:38 tg2 #dogecoin having trouble wrapping their minds around the fact that an OPEN ponzi where everything is visible is not really a ponzi lol
18:38 tg2 its just a game
18:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0449 = 0.2245 BTC [+]
18:38 truffles nerds can be gullible too
18:39 tg2 whatever happened ot bitcoinsand
18:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06999999 = 0.35 BTC [+] {2}
18:40 tg2 https://bitcoinsand.com/en
18:40 ozbot Bitcoinsand
18:40 tg2 still rolling I guess
18:40 tg2 https://blockchain.info/address/1JfvCK3NAaKdQZCmu4vBjGhqAzxYrePsHg
18:40 tg2 meh
18:40 ozbot Bitcoin Address 1JfvCK3NAaKdQZCmu4vBjGhqAzxYrePsHg
18:40 tg2 not enough interest to be a ponzi :D
18:41 CheckDavid tg2: there's a game called bubble
18:41 tg2 :D
18:41 CheckDavid Which basically is an explicit ponzi with rules
18:41 tg2 IPO are the last ones in :D
18:50 lnovy the whole pc architecture is a big matrix, it looks and behaves pretty much nothing like you see it
18:50 lnovy huh... scrollbuffer lag
18:50 lnovy ignore plz :)
18:53 truffles that game sounds fun
19:00 tg2 fk its taking a long time to generate a gpg key with 9 matching characters in it's long ID lol
19:00 tg2 Found 3256676 keys so far, running for 104196.6s (Rate:31.3/s)
19:00 tg2 ;;ident
19:00 gribble Nick 'tg2', with hostmask 'tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35', is identified as user 'tg2', with GPG key id 31FAA963C3333333, key fingerprint BFB291FE6B88A151B3BD2F9C31FAA963C3333333, and bitcoin address None
19:00 tg2 10 characters *
19:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00094857 = 18.0228 BTC [+] {4}
19:13 bounce asciilifeform: acorn arm boxes had riscos in rom. nice and quick booting, too.
19:17 Namworld Wait.... WAIT. Wait wait wait wait wait... Stripe will allow Bitcoin payments?
19:18 Namworld That adds a good bunch of merchants
19:20 Namworld http://www.pcworld.com/article/2114200/malleability-attacks-not-to-blame-for-mt-goxs-missing-bitcoins-study-says.html
19:20 ozbot 'Malleability' attacks not to blame for Mt. Gox's missing bitcoins, study says | PCWorld
19:20 Namworld Oh really? You don't say...
19:21 Namworld How unsurprising.
19:27 lnovy incomming!
19:31 Namworld If Karpeles finds more Bitcoins and they're all returned I'll make the weirdest face. "He didn't scam, he just lost the keys? Had to try and find doubles in old backups of data? What stupidity is this?"
19:33 Namworld Current odds of getting 100% back: 0.001% or so, odds provided by Ass-PulloutsĀ®
19:34 dexX7 hehe.. the wallet they found was allegedly found, because it was in an old format that new bitcoin clients don't recognize
19:34 dexX7 or something like that ;)
19:34 xdotcomm_ tg2: dats a nice key
19:34 xdotcomm_ ;;ident
19:34 gribble Nick 'xdotcomm_', with hostmask 'xdotcomm_!~xdotcomme@bas1-montreal51-1167905977.dsl.bell.ca', is not identified.
19:34 xdotcomm_ meh
19:35 Namworld Translation: "My keys!? They no work, what happened!? Oh, I have one here in this old backup. Maybe I can keep looking, maybe I find more keys in these old files."
19:36 dexX7 sounds accurate
19:37 Namworld Someone, please do a retro parody of a platformer, called: "Karpeles and the Search for the Seven Private Keys"
19:38 Namworld With coffee powerups, regulators and hacker mobs/bosses and of course collecting keys or fragments of keys.
19:46 jurov Namworld don't forget protesters
19:47 jurov and the end boss shall bear uncanny resemblance to mpoe-pr
19:49 jurov chetty maybe you can make a little development detour?
19:50 truffles a pr person that is total pr nightmare, only on internet
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20:08 asciilifeform bounce: all 1980s micros, afaik, did
20:08 asciilifeform bounce: i was thinking of modern pc
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20:26 ThickAsThieves so Jesus Antonopolis has a book coming out
20:27 ThickAsThieves http://bitcoinmagazine.com/11788/mastering-bitcoin-book-andreas-antonopoulos-available-pre-order/
20:28 ThickAsThieves it can't be purchased with bitcoins
20:29 dexX7 250 pages x.x
20:31 ThickAsThieves "If you're interested in learning more about the technical operation of bitcoin, or if you're building the next great bitcoin killerĀ­app or business, you will find this book essential reading. From the basic use of a bitcoin wallet to buy a cup of coffee, to running a bitcoin marketplace with hundreds of thousands of transactions, or collaboratively building new financial innovations
20:31 ThickAsThieves that will transform our understanding of currency and credit, this book will help you engineer money. You're about to unlock the API to a new economy. This book is your key."
20:31 ThickAsThieves parody vs reality
20:31 ThickAsThieves who will win?
20:31 ThickAsThieves stay tuned!
20:32 asciilifeform 'parody horizon.'
20:32 truffles hey TAT write that blog yet?
20:33 dexX7 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KKV_VEmGPsPr74rFhhpqmdkFPuLRh6tSEQvsXdOcoZA/pub#h.ualzap5eojzv << outline
20:33 ozbot Mastering Bitcoin - Community Outline Review
20:34 ThickAsThieves the first blog post didnt make it past peer review
20:34 ThickAsThieves sorry
20:34 truffles orly
20:34 truffles i can review if u want
20:34 ThickAsThieves no need
20:34 * truffles likes to be entertained!
20:35 truffles there are a few other bloggers itc
20:35 truffles cant recall if theyre consistent, cuz i forget
20:36 dexX7 http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com/
20:36 ozbot Assets Assimilated
20:37 truffles meh
20:37 truffles non assets mp related
20:39 ThickAsThieves well you cant complain when b-assets people write about assets and you ask assets people for writing
20:39 truffles didnt ask for assets content
20:39 ThickAsThieves people here also list other blogs they like at times
20:39 truffles oh
20:39 ThickAsThieves The Last Psychiatrist
20:40 ThickAsThieves Pando isnt bad for news about news
20:40 truffles oh its not that specific
20:40 truffles just has to gauge my interest :)
20:40 truffles so is btc stable now`
20:41 ThickAsThieves not yet
20:41 azi`_ did i miss any news about neobee?
20:41 ThickAsThieves give it a month
20:41 truffles last i saw it was in the 600s
20:42 truffles how goes neobee
20:43 dexX7 price tanked, trading halted
20:43 azi`_ something fishy is apparently going on
20:44 truffles ?
20:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06992203 = 0.1398 BTC [-] {2}
20:50 TestingUnoDosTre .d
20:50 ozbot 5.007 billion | Next Diff in 1170 blocks | Estimated Change: 16.2937% in 6d 19h 4m 7s
20:51 dexX7 haha reddit about friedcat: "I don't know, anonymous according to /r/bitcoin means "will steal bitcoins in future". How do we know the ASICs don't have a function that sends your mined bitcoins to some address at some point in the future or installs a virus on your computer? Is the hardware opensourced?"
20:52 Duffer1 wow
20:52 TestingUnoDosTre how come the expected change is 16,3% when bitcoinwisdom projects 21%
20:59 dexX7 the "next diff" algorithm is only a simple linear projection (hashrate-now/hashrate-last = hashrate-increase%) and bitcoinwisdom uses something more sophisticated
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21:05 TestingUnoDosTre can anyone tell me about gribbles next difficulty calculation
21:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0569 = 0.1138 BTC [+]
21:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0569 = 0.1707 BTC [+] {3}
21:21 MisterE http://venturebeat.com/2014/03/28/mozillas-bad-week-employees-call-for-ceo-eich-to-step-down-3-board-members-leave/
21:21 ozbot Mozilla's bad week: Employees call for CEO Eich to step down, 3 board members leave | VentureBeat |
21:24 kanzure dexX7: couldn't you just monitor the outbound network activity from the asic device instead
21:25 dexX7 hm?
21:26 dexX7 elaborate please
21:30 tg2 Yeah it wouldn't be hard
21:31 tg2 even with published source though many people still download binary
21:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06949969 = 0.695 BTC [-] {3}
21:31 tg2 People still use Firefox?
21:35 fordlincoln1 anyone trade the bitcoin cfds on avatrade?
21:35 kakobrekla that prolly a bucket shop
21:36 kakobrekla not prolly, certainly.
21:40 cazalla tg2: what's wrong with firefox?
21:41 tg2 Chrome is what's wrong with Firefox
21:41 Apocalyptic Opera is the shit now
21:41 cazalla i'd rather not give google my browsing habits
21:41 tg2 I heard netscape is pretty nice
21:42 tg2 although i prefer lynx because it doesn't forward my cookies unless explicitly advised to
21:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00094475 = 12.8014 BTC [-] {2}
21:42 mystisking whats the future of crypto trading?
21:42 tg2 in fact it asks me every time
21:43 mystisking is bitcoin over?
21:43 tg2 If dice listed on any markets?
21:43 tg2 ;;ident mystisking
21:43 gribble Nick 'mystisking', with hostmask 'mystisking!48e5a0ae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.229.160.174', is not identified.
21:43 tg2 > web
21:43 tg2 Troll harder
21:43 mystisking ?
21:44 mystisking i have a question
21:44 Apocalyptic <mystisking> is bitcoin over? << obvious troll is obvious
21:44 mystisking ?
21:45 tg2 Mystisking, the ceo of Bitcoin committed suicide so yeah Bitcoin is pretty much dead
21:45 tg2 everybody knows this why do you not
21:45 mystisking where can i see announcements of new cryptocurrencies?
21:46 tg2 Fox news
21:46 mystisking thanks guy
21:46 mystisking you're a real jerk
21:46 tg2 Np any time
21:46 tg2 drop by any time and ask as stupid of a question as you want
21:46 tg2 you'll always get a sincere response
21:47 tg2 Go to /r/dogecoin you'll be right at home
21:47 dexX7 he's gone
21:47 tg2 I have parts muted
21:47 dexX7 ic
21:48 tg2 I don't c
21:48 tg2 Benkay
21:48 tg2 What are you drinking
21:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.069899 = 0.1398 BTC [+]
21:51 tg2 > Tfw no benkay
22:00 MisterE Chrome is such crap
22:00 MisterE I switched to FF from Chromium
22:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.069899 = 0.1398 BTC [+]
22:01 Apocalyptic tg2, what version of lynx do you use ?
22:02 tg2 Bleeding edge
22:02 tg2 I use phantomjs now
22:02 tg2 Headless webkit ftw
22:02 tg2 It renders css and JavaScript without a ui.
22:03 tg2 it makes one hell of a sick crawler
22:03 tg2 It's like having only console open on your browser
22:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.64999999 = 14.3 BTC [-] {2}
22:08 tg2 2.8.8 lynx
22:17 tg2 I believe that's current
22:23 kanzure phantomjs is actually using an ancient version of webkit
22:23 kanzure i highly recommend using recent webkit and just use the gobject bindings
22:23 kanzure for example: https://gist.github.com/kanzure/6581415
22:24 kanzure (context: i've contributed to phantomjs)
22:29 tg2 Can it be run without x?
22:30 xdotcomm_ tg2: going for wendies !
22:32 MisterE Breaking news on the missing plane, still nothing found...
22:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.069898 = 0.1398 BTC [-]
22:33 kanzure tg2: technically no, webkigtk+ requires X unless you find a way to get gtk running without x.. there used to be a way with cairo but nobody seems to care anymore.
22:34 kanzure tg2: however, running X headlessly is not hugely problematic these days because of xserver-xorg-video-dummy
22:35 kanzure tg2: and i would say the advantages of running modern webkit far outweigh the troubles with running X... you get Function.prototype.bind :)
22:37 kanzure even when phantomjs2 comes out in the next few months i would recommend caution because the dependency on qtwebki from a qt release means that you're waiting multiple months for bugfixes to get into phantomjs (so far webkit updates are so far behind it's sad)
22:38 kanzure e.g. it's not just qtwebkit but it's a qt-release that includes a release of qtwebkit which includes a release of webkit. but the real thing you care about is webkit!
22:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04440002 = 0.1776 BTC [-]
22:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.069898 = 0.2796 BTC [-]
22:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00614222 = 0.1106 BTC [-] {4}
23:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21950 @ 0.00094904 = 20.8314 BTC [+] {2}
23:04 tg2 I just use it for page scraping
23:04 tg2 And thumb generation
23:05 tg2 Headless is nice
23:05 tg2 True headless
23:06 tg2 there is to much tied through x imo
23:06 tg2 Fglrx for example
23:09 Apocalyptic tg2, do you even run X ?
23:09 tg2 Not if I don't need gui
23:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65252999 BTC [+]
23:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.62 = 12.4 BTC [-] {3}
23:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.65250798 = 1.305 BTC [+]
23:32 chetty http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/03/28/cashless-society-almost-sinister-implications/
23:32 ozbot The Cashless Society Almost Here And With Some Very Sinister Implications - Waking Times
23:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65250798 BTC [+]
23:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00094569 = 9.1259 BTC [-] {2}
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23:56 decimation lol fiat: http://www.scribd.com/doc/201651711/October-24-2013-Class-Cert-Order - this is related to the civil suit against the silicon valley companys for conspiring to limit recruitment
23:58 decimation Alan Eustace (Google Senior Vice President) commented ...
23:58 decimation to compensation that makes it very difficult for anyone to get a better offer"
23:59 decimation take 2: According to him:the "long-term right approach is not to deal with these situations as one-off?s but to have a systematic approach to compensation that makes it very difficult for anyone to get a better offer"
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