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00:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07 = 0.28 BTC [+]
00:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 13 @ 0.11950724 = 1.5536 BTC [-]
00:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00080125 = 5.5687 BTC [-]
00:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0051858 = 1.0372 BTC [-] {11}
00:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [MS] 80 @ 0.00438999 = 0.3512 BTC [-] {2}
00:20 LordPutin havelock doing manual withdraws atm?
00:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00080116 = 2.6038 BTC [-]
00:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5275 @ 0.00080116 = 4.2261 BTC [-]
00:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00080043 = 9.285 BTC [-] {2}
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00:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12304 @ 0.00080018 = 9.8454 BTC [-] {2}
01:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0536985 = 0.1074 BTC [+] {2}
01:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.05399967 = 0.216 BTC [+] {4}
01:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00079995 = 8.7195 BTC [-]
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01:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.62165745 = 2.4866 BTC [+] {3}
01:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00613716 = 0.135 BTC [+] {2}
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01:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00079906 = 3.3561 BTC [-]
02:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00079984 = 11.2777 BTC [+] {3}
02:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00080064 = 4.5636 BTC [+]
02:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00080137 = 17.3497 BTC [+] {4}
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02:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 463 @ 0.00460828 = 2.1336 BTC [-] {18}
02:46 moiety how close to all womenz is ozbot?
02:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35950 @ 0.000799 = 28.7241 BTC [-] {3}
03:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.06401085 = 0.256 BTC [-] {3}
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03:29 Neil ;;bc,stats
03:29 gribble Current Blocks: 290804 | Current Difficulty: 4.2502179198695354E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 292319 | Next Difficulty In: 1515 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 8 hours, 26 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4609059944.38 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.44291
03:29 Neil ooh
03:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 701 @ 0.0035 = 2.4535 BTC [+] {2}
03:30 Neil gribble lowballing a tad but it's tight
03:31 Neil The Bastille day bet could become a big upset
03:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 419 @ 0.00080117 = 0.3357 BTC [+]
03:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1524 @ 0.00342241 = 5.2158 BTC [-] {7}
03:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 5941 @ 0.00312251 = 18.5508 BTC [-] {37}
03:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00080117 = 1.9228 BTC [+]
03:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00079886 = 14.0999 BTC [-] {2}
04:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 214 @ 0.0031 = 0.6634 BTC [-] {3}
04:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [-] {3}
04:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29906 @ 0.00080206 = 23.9864 BTC [+] {4}
04:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 226 @ 0.006 = 1.356 BTC [-]
04:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.05260571 = 0.3682 BTC [-] {3}
04:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.0645 = 0.9675 BTC [+]
04:28 lnovy http://youtu.be/31g0YE61PLQ <- bulls on bitstamp
04:28 ozbot The Office- Michael Scott No God No - YouTube
04:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00080005 = 17.2811 BTC [-] {2}
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04:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.05109629 = 1.3796 BTC [-] {4}
04:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.06511996 = 1.3024 BTC [+] {6}
04:58 KRS-1 lol Michael Scott
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05:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44240 @ 0.00079857 = 35.3287 BTC [-] {3}
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05:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00080323 = 6.3857 BTC [+]
05:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6242 @ 0.00080333 = 5.0144 BTC [+] {2}
05:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00080413 = 6.9959 BTC [+]
05:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.0008055 = 12.2033 BTC [+] {2}
05:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4381 @ 0.00080715 = 3.5361 BTC [+]
05:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 321 @ 0.00336241 = 1.0793 BTC [+] {5}
06:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 84 @ 0.06811067 = 5.7213 BTC [-] {12}
06:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00080336 = 3.6553 BTC [-] {2}
06:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 40 @ 0.06699 = 2.6796 BTC [-]
06:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00348436 = 0.2787 BTC [+] {3}
06:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16481 @ 0.00080426 = 13.255 BTC [+] {2}
06:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00080288 = 12.8862 BTC [-] {2}
06:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00331001 = 0.1324 BTC [-] {3}
06:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22312 @ 0.00080162 = 17.8857 BTC [-] {3}
06:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00079915 = 4.5951 BTC [-]
06:55 balulasch hello
06:56 balulasch I visited bit777.com 2 days ago and looked at the total wagered Bitcoins. Cant remember the exact number but as I visited today I could swear that the number was at least 10,000BTC higher. This means there must be a very huge volume. Considering the fact that bit777 is the property of casinobitco.in makes the companys stock worth on havelock seem heavily underrated imho.. I'm waiting for the new 2weekly statement like how I
06:56 balulasch any thoughts on this?
06:57 BingoBoingo Cake is tasty
07:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 19200 @ 0.00014999 = 2.8798 BTC [-] {4}
07:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00079758 = 13.8779 BTC [-] {2}
07:04 balulasch lol seems like someone reacted
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07:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00079659 = 6.1736 BTC [-] {2}
07:28 mircea_popescu soo today is going to be a big news day.
07:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61000001 BTC [-]
07:38 balulasch mircea what are you referring to?
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07:54 dub pulling the plug on mpex ponzi
07:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.00079551 = 12.4497 BTC [-]
08:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1951 @ 0.00330923 = 6.4563 BTC [-] {6}
08:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 948 @ 0.00320167 = 3.0352 BTC [-] {7}
08:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.0007951 = 8.6666 BTC [-] {2}
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08:26 balulasch_ collective hangover
08:26 balulasch_ collective coma
08:28 balulasch_ what
08:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06999998 = 0.14 BTC [+]
08:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00338159 = 0.1488 BTC [+] {4}
08:35 LordPutin Mark Karpelas was on mh370?
08:37 balulasch_ yes
08:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.0007991 = 4.0754 BTC [+]
08:53 Neil LordPutin: lol
08:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26143 @ 0.00080088 = 20.9374 BTC [+] {4}
09:05 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
09:05 gribble Time since last block: 10 minutes and 36 seconds
09:07 ThickAsThieves what's the big news?
09:07 balulasch_ cbtc's 2weekly report will be big news
09:07 mircea_popescu gimme a minute eh.
09:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1256 @ 0.00080451 = 1.0105 BTC [+]
09:08 ThickAsThieves pump moar
09:09 balulasch_ hope they will release it today even though its sunday
09:09 Duffer1 z
09:09 Duffer1 er
09:09 Duffer1 zzzzz
09:10 ThickAsThieves maybe they'll release it yesterday
09:10 ThickAsThieves wouldnt that be awesomer?
09:10 balulasch_ no
09:10 balulasch_ bought my shares today
09:10 Duffer1 i'm sorry to hear that
09:11 Duffer1 buy rumor sell news
09:11 balulasch_ why do i never get an answer that makes any sense
09:11 ThickAsThieves responses are in kind
09:12 balulasch_ just read a lot of the channels log aswell
09:12 Duffer1 it's good that you're hear though
09:12 balulasch_ bs talk all the way
09:12 ThickAsThieves how long did it take?
09:12 balulasch_ can someone recommend me some useful irc channels?
09:13 ThickAsThieves #altcoin
09:13 ThickAsThieves #mtgox
09:13 Duffer1 you can hang around and try to avoid catastrophic losses i suppose
09:13 balulasch_ on freenode?
09:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14050 @ 0.00080449 = 11.3031 BTC [-] {2}
09:14 Duffer1 any other channel should suffice otherwise
09:15 nubbins` <balulasch_> bs talk all the way <<< lel he's right ;(
09:16 Duffer1 well ya but there's good bits too :P
09:16 ThickAsThieves yeah but bs is just the style of the conversation
09:16 ThickAsThieves so much context in it tho
09:16 ThickAsThieves i guess it's that "variety speak"
09:16 Duffer1 indeed
09:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 246 @ 0.00320465 = 0.7883 BTC [-] {7}
09:27 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
09:27 gribble Time since last block: 32 minutes and 34 seconds
09:27 mircea_popescu jesus fuck which of you broke bitcoin
09:28 ThickAsThieves i'll try rebooting
09:28 ThickAsThieves mp's big news is that bitcoin is hacked, he;s just waiting for his coins to clear
09:28 Apocalyptic heh
09:30 ThickAsThieves maybe he finally bought Rift
09:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00080417 = 2.3723 BTC [-]
09:31 Apocalyptic why would he wait for a tx to clear then ?
09:31 mircea_popescu dude how does this shit work. 35 minutes for a block, then 3 blocks in 3 minutes.
09:31 ThickAsThieves ;;tslb
09:31 gribble Time since last block: 1 minute and 6 seconds
09:32 ThickAsThieves blame the Real Nigga God
09:32 Duffer1 LOL
09:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30550 @ 0.00080591 = 24.6206 BTC [+] {3}
09:40 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/march-against-police-brutality-declared-illegal-broken-up-1.2574163
09:40 ozbot March against police brutality declared illegal, broken up - Montreal - CBC News
09:40 nubbins` didn't see that coming
09:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 195 @ 0.0060001 = 1.17 BTC [+]
09:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.62084749 = 2.4834 BTC [+] {4}
09:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0033 = 0.33 BTC [+]
09:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.006 = 3 BTC [-] {3}
09:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 600 @ 0.006 = 3.6 BTC [-]
09:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17898 @ 0.00080835 = 14.4678 BTC [+] {2}
09:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.62186666 = 3.7312 BTC [+] {4}
09:49 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/an-era-ends-today-a-new-era-starts-today/
09:49 ozbot An era ends today. A new era starts today. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
09:49 mircea_popescu that's the big news
09:49 mircea_popescu (still your fluttering hearts, it's nothing bad)
09:50 mircea_popescu also if anyone wants to put it on reddit (and thanks jcpham for mentioning the lulzy reddit "bet", he inspired me)
09:56 ThickAsThieves interesting
09:58 ThickAsThieves i just threw 5 on it too
09:58 mircea_popescu what, on yes ?
10:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.612755 = 2.451 BTC [-] {3}
10:11 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
10:11 gribble Time since last block: 26 minutes and 24 seconds
10:11 mircea_popescu check it out, again.
10:14 ThickAsThieves it's hard there for a pimp
10:14 ThickAsThieves out there*
10:16 mircea_popescu somebody really should check out the block timing, there may be some sort of issue here.
10:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05239895 = 0.1048 BTC [+] {2}
10:23 balulasch_ why? i dont see any problem with that
10:24 mircea_popescu balulasch_ can you calculate the odds of a block taking 30 minutes to solve ?
10:25 mircea_popescu dubsy why haet.
10:26 ThickAsThieves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP8RB7UZHKI
10:26 ozbot 3-year-old Mateo Makes His Case for Cupcakes: "Linda, honey, just listen." - YouTube
10:28 balulasch_ no idea
10:28 mircea_popescu balulasch_ re the cbtc bs : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=465334.0
10:29 mircea_popescu bullshit corp made out of bullshit, worth ~the going rate for bullshit in your jurisdiction.
10:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.612001 = 1.224 BTC [-] {2}
10:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10220 @ 0.00086345 = 8.8245 BTC [+] {2}
10:30 chetty TAT I saw that video couple days ago, nothing cute about it
10:31 ThickAsThieves hater
10:31 balulasch_ do you think the total wagered coins on bit777 main page are made up?
10:31 balulasch_ if not
10:31 balulasch_ stock price will double later today
10:31 ThickAsThieves i hope he hope his cheated-on wife makes a similar video in 20 yeards
10:32 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvZgwtpPmLY
10:32 ozbot blues brothers - sell me your children - YouTube
10:32 mircea_popescu moar bettar.
10:35 ThickAsThieves balulasch_ I take it you're the one with the 35k-share ask wall on CBTC
10:35 ThickAsThieves well, not a "wall"
10:35 ThickAsThieves but
10:35 ThickAsThieves yknow
10:35 balulasch_ 2014-03-16 07:01:1318756฿0.00015000฿2.8134
10:35 balulasch_ that was me
10:35 ThickAsThieves pumping your stock in here won't move the price
10:36 ThickAsThieves try trollchat or something
10:36 balulasch_ im just asking for opinions
10:36 mircea_popescu !t h cbtc
10:36 assbot [HAVELOCK:CBTC] 1D: 0.00014500 / 0.00014974 / 0.00015992 (23741 shares, 3.55508111 BTC), 7D: 0.00009900 / 0.00014508 / 0.00018799 (193380 shares, 28.05464854 BTC), 30D: 0.00009900 / 0.00018188 / 0.00024990 (1108845 shares, 201.67261943 BTC)
10:36 mircea_popescu what did it ipo at anyway, was it 2 ? or 1 or what ?
10:36 balulasch_ 12
10:37 ThickAsThieves it'd take about 200btc to double the price
10:37 mircea_popescu yeah well. tell them to start making proper reports and stop with the nonsensical "we are great ra ra ra" bullshit,
10:37 mircea_popescu maybe they have a chance to matter in a year or w/e.
10:37 Neil Oh dear; I now have 12 months of loading bitbet to see Berkshire Hathaway at the top.
10:38 ThickAsThieves lol
10:38 mircea_popescu lol
10:38 ThickAsThieves kinda an important observation
10:38 mircea_popescu you never know when a diff bet comes and swoops the top spot you know ?
10:38 ThickAsThieves sets the tone for any new visitor
10:38 ThickAsThieves for better or worse
10:39 mircea_popescu so far 1000:1 odds lol
10:39 balulasch_ https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2SWZWkGJ1V3UEo0Q0lESk5nd0k&usp=sharing
10:39 ozbot CasinoBitco.in - Public
10:39 Neil Gotta say despite the odds I'm not gonna bet No on that one.
10:39 balulasch_ new 2weekly report coming soon
10:39 mircea_popescu Neil nuts.
10:39 mircea_popescu i mean i fully understand you, but from an "outside" perspective, right ? fucking nuts.
10:39 mircea_popescu perhaps this is the best line to explain to noobs why bitcoin is so powerful :
10:40 mircea_popescu "honey, there's a 1000:1 bet that berkshire will outperform bitcoin in 2014, and i'm not taking it"
10:40 Neil You mean, if you're not a bitcoin believer? Then yeah. But I'm quite confident BTC will outperform Berkshire.
10:40 mircea_popescu kinda why the article is adressed to the would-be financiers of wallstreet and generally the world's pretend-bankers.
10:40 ThickAsThieves it also has to outperform USD inflation
10:40 Neil Unfortunately those who don't believe in bitcoin will not have bitcoin to spend on the bet :)
10:40 mircea_popescu none of them will make 1k btc in 2014. so why aren't they ?
10:40 mircea_popescu "they choose not to run", perhaps ?
10:41 Neil Or will say their winnings will be near-worthless, yadda yadda.
10:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 449 @ 0.006 = 2.694 BTC [-]
10:41 mircea_popescu no resources, no skill, no talent, no ability, no brains, perhaps ?
10:41 ThickAsThieves the excuse will be, I don't wanna have to buy bitcoins to bet against bitcoin
10:41 mircea_popescu derp.
10:41 Neil Would be funny if Buffett bet 1k BTC on the other side tho.
10:41 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves anyway, that's the genius of it :D
10:41 Neil I'd join in then.
10:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.052399 = 0.1048 BTC [+] {2}
10:42 mircea_popescu Neil so mail him.
10:42 ThickAsThieves and Buffet would say of this bet, "The bet is a perfect example of why Bitcoin is a bad investment, it is speculation and gambling at its purest!"
10:42 chetty purity :D
10:42 mircea_popescu "no intrinsic value in this bet"
10:43 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves oddly, he doesn't say the same of government-sponsored transfer of wealth from the middle class to the lower class. that's fine, iho.
10:44 ThickAsThieves well he can only lean on the inertia of BRK so hard til it falls over
10:45 ThickAsThieves in less than a year I learned a bunch of stuff about Buffet, and then the first letter I get to read as it is release, reads like satire
10:45 ThickAsThieves kinda surreal
10:45 ThickAsThieves released*
10:46 mircea_popescu indeed.
10:46 mircea_popescu well, we should be so lucky to live to be our own parodies.
10:46 mircea_popescu or perhaps not.
10:47 mircea_popescu i guess the world is split in tow sorts of people : those who aspire to be so lucky to live to be our own parodies, and those who aspire to be so lucky to die before that.
10:47 ThickAsThieves Yes is already a losing bet in BitBet calc, lol
10:47 mircea_popescu lol
10:48 ThickAsThieves i aalways thought most people lived as parodies of themselves
10:48 mircea_popescu i guess that's also true...
10:48 mircea_popescu btw, someone dump the trilema article on reddit will you ? i wanna see them writhe.
10:48 nubbins` living as a parody of pop culture is more common
10:49 ThickAsThieves it's a feedback loop
10:49 mircea_popescu speaking of which "kardashian is a hobbit" sp kicked ass.
10:49 ThickAsThieves not sure which is the chicken and which the egg
10:50 Duffer1 sp?
10:50 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/2-involved-in-apparent-stabbings-mum-rnc-investigate-1.2574735
10:50 ozbot 2 involved in apparent stabbings mum, RNC investigate - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
10:50 nubbins` ^ my neighbourhood
10:50 mircea_popescu south park
10:50 nubbins` "police said neither of the men wanted to provide any further detail about the incidents"
10:51 Duffer1 oh man stick of truth was... wow
10:51 wao-ender aspiration to quantum self-parody?
10:52 mircea_popescu lol yea
10:52 ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20jxdg/bitcoin_baron_bets_bitcoin_beats_berkshire/
10:52 ozbot Bitcoin Baron Bets Bitcoin Beats Berkshire : Bitcoin
10:53 ThickAsThieves :)
10:53 mircea_popescu lol ima gonna have to end up buying a barony in the end
10:53 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves nice pic. did you select it or did it autoselect ?
10:53 nubbins` bitcoin bettor buys barony
10:54 ThickAsThieves auto-pic
10:54 mircea_popescu haha
10:54 mircea_popescu holy shit that's an epic title anyway.
10:54 assbot Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1735504/plain/)
10:54 mircea_popescu !b 10
10:55 nubbins` bitcoin behemoth barony brouhaha bashed
10:56 ThickAsThieves fwiw i watched the nethash decrease about 200TH over the past hour
10:57 ThickAsThieves ;;tslb
10:57 gribble Time since last block: 4 minutes and 15 seconds
10:57 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves https://twitter.com/Thick_AsThieves that you ?
10:58 Duffer1 trouble at mount asicminer?
10:58 ThickAsThieves Not me
10:58 ThickAsThieves appears t be London DJs
11:00 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/445212966003441664
11:00 ozbot Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: Tremendously tittilating title ...
11:00 ThickAsThieves Can you tell I've been reading TheRegister for more than a decade?
11:01 mircea_popescu only if i look right at it.
11:01 Diablo-D3 [10:53:20] <ThickAsThieves> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20jxdg/bitcoin_baron_bets_bitcoin_beats_berkshire/
11:01 ThickAsThieves my favorite is how all their Yahoo headlines have ! after every word
11:01 Diablo-D3 the only way that could have come out better is
11:01 mircea_popescu yeah the ! is pretty good.
11:01 balulasch_ nice bet
11:01 Diablo-D3 bitcoin brony baron bets bitcoin beats berkshire
11:01 mircea_popescu sort of insanely funny subdued lolz.
11:02 balulasch_ mircea_popescu did you set up this bet?
11:02 ThickAsThieves balulaash, do you read?
11:02 mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 but i'm not a brony. perhaps the only bitcoin veteran in this sad situation.
11:02 Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: only b word I could think of
11:02 Diablo-D3 well one that'd increase views
11:03 balulasch_ cant believe someone bet 1000btc on this
11:03 mircea_popescu which reminds me, when i was a kid there was this wrestler dubbed bam bam biggelow
11:03 ThickAsThieves i remember him
11:03 Diablo-D3 that was a looooooooooooong time ago
11:03 Diablo-D3 that was like, hulk hogan era
11:03 Diablo-D3 back when people still watched it
11:03 balulasch_ tatanka
11:04 ThickAsThieves Koko B Ware
11:04 mircea_popescu yeah was before sena died and they fucked up f1
11:04 mircea_popescu kinda stopped watching it that year.
11:04 Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: who?
11:04 mircea_popescu Ayrton Senna
11:04 * Diablo-D3 never watched wrestling as a kid, it was too much like soap operas for men
11:04 Diablo-D3 only had friends who watched it and they wouldnt shut up about it
11:05 Diablo-D3 and had fucking tshirts and shit
11:05 balulasch_ i have friends who still watch it after 15yrs
11:05 balulasch_ and they take it for real
11:05 Diablo-D3 well I remember everyone quit watching it, then they had that NWO shit
11:05 balulasch_ somehow
11:05 Diablo-D3 then the NWO shit wore out and then they went to college
11:06 ThickAsThieves due to them being the same day, i have an odd association with WWF and Catechism as a child
11:06 Diablo-D3 I mean, I have to give it to wrestling
11:06 Diablo-D3 they made fun of bush and it stuck
11:06 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: wtf is catechism?
11:06 Duffer1 catholic nonsense
11:06 ThickAsThieves wrestling was always the hot topic whilst learning about jesus
11:06 balulasch_ lol
11:06 ThickAsThieves it's sunday school
11:06 Diablo-D3 ahh
11:07 Diablo-D3 sunday school never made sense to me
11:07 ThickAsThieves gotta do it for 8 years before you can leave the scene
11:07 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: then the catholic church is not a church
11:07 Diablo-D3 it is a cult and it is against God
11:07 ThickAsThieves well that's just how i saw it
11:07 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves did you get a little white tutu and everything ? or do they only do that for girls
11:07 ThickAsThieves yeah have to wear some kind of robe
11:08 mircea_popescu nuts.
11:08 ThickAsThieves i remember my confirmation vividly because i said to myself over and over "never forget how happy you are that you never have to come here again"
11:08 mircea_popescu haha
11:08 mircea_popescu the shit people come up with, i swear.
11:08 ThickAsThieves oddly it was the first time I ever had hot flashes and almost fainted
11:08 Duffer1 did you get your little scarf thing too?
11:09 mircea_popescu i mean religion is one thing, as a theological pursuit, you know, whatever, let's sit around and discuss the beard of the teapot in the sky
11:09 ThickAsThieves the next time was in Amsterdam :)
11:09 mircea_popescu but by the time it gets to "you gotta wear this thing" it's gotten real old.
11:09 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: that sounds closer to an axienty attack
11:10 Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: well, its actually why I like Jesus
11:10 ThickAsThieves well not much distinction
11:10 Diablo-D3 he said, and this is why he killed him, "all this shit they make you do that God didn't expressly say do? stop doing it. God didnt tell you to do that."
11:10 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves was it because the nude chicks behind glass ?
11:10 ThickAsThieves either way everything turned white and i almost passed out
11:10 Diablo-D3 Jews freaked out and killed him for it
11:10 Diablo-D3 he basically Snowdened the Jews.
11:10 ThickAsThieves no cuz i smoked too much hash
11:11 ThickAsThieves it's weird, it happened to me both times i was in Amsterdam
11:11 ThickAsThieves the flashes
11:11 mircea_popescu yeah it can do that.
11:11 ThickAsThieves never happened back home though
11:12 Diablo-D3 pot can do that, yeah
11:14 ThickAsThieves "Bitchin' bet, bro! Bitcoin bears best become Bitcoin bulls."
11:14 mircea_popescu lol
11:14 mircea_popescu you're on a broll, bro!
11:14 ThickAsThieves byeah!
11:14 Duffer1 buy bitcoin. bitches.
11:14 Diablo-D3 bullshit
11:14 mircea_popescu wait that was you ?
11:14 Diablo-D3 .... you know, why has there never been a financial blog for bears named bullshit?
11:15 Diablo-D3 seems like a lost oppertunity there
11:15 mircea_popescu maybe so
11:17 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/#b7
11:17 ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment
11:17 mircea_popescu gotta love these fiat guys. 0.00450000 at a time, srsly, don't give yourselves a hernia folks
11:18 mircea_popescu lifting all that moneys up to the BitBet coinslit.
11:18 ThickAsThieves http://www.maxkeiser.com/2013/03/breaking-as-cyprus-crisis-increases-panic-bitcoin-hits-new-all-time-high-of-50/
11:18 ThickAsThieves "Analysts now see $100 BTC within easy reach. I am sticking to my bet. I bet Warren Buffett 100,000 BTC that BTC reaches $200,000 before Berkshire Hathaway does."
11:19 ThickAsThieves maybe Max needs to put his BitBet where his mouth is
11:19 mircea_popescu lol max bets 100k ? bwahaha.
11:20 mircea_popescu o wait was 2013 huh.
11:20 mircea_popescu that should make nice news for a blogger wanting toi have some fun
11:20 mircea_popescu berkshire will probably cross 200k sometime this summer.
11:21 mircea_popescu whereas max derper never had nor will ever have 100k btc.
11:21 ThickAsThieves Can't have your soul and eat it to, after all
11:22 Duffer1 what was the market cap of BTC this time last year? i'm sure it was already well beyond 200k..
11:22 mircea_popescu right.
11:22 mircea_popescu the funniest shit will be if the us inflation goes bonkers this year, berkshire ends up ~2mn by next march, bitcoins trade ~6k ish
11:22 mircea_popescu just you now... narrowly missing the no condition.
11:24 LordPutin blue means yes right?
11:24 ThickAsThieves yeah, i suspect any violent increase in inflation would result in a more abrupt increase in bitcoin value than BRK-A
11:25 ThickAsThieves yes, yes is the aque color
11:25 ThickAsThieves aqua*
11:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1400 @ 0.00015 = 0.21 BTC [+]
11:28 LordPutin wow i would take the no for sure
11:30 ThickAsThieves http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/15/julie-ann-horvath-describes-sexism-and-intimidation-behind-her-github-exit/
11:30 ozbot Julie Ann Horvath Describes Sexism And Intimidation Behind Her GitHub Exit | TechCrunch
11:30 ThickAsThieves Well, LordPutin, go for it!
11:31 TomServo mircea_popescu: You saying Senna dying fucked F1, or something else?
11:32 mircea_popescu TomServo his dying resulted in them trying to fix "problems" which were wholly imaginary.
11:32 mircea_popescu the point of life isn't to avoid people getting killed.
11:32 jurov Hi all just checking from ski trip
11:33 ThickAsThieves ick, skiing
11:33 jurov Any blog abut the brk-a bet background?
11:33 TomServo mircea_popescu: I don't see the harm in making it a bit safer, the danger is still present
11:34 jurov And sorry for all coinbr X.EUR holders, y'all will be sorted out tonight
11:34 jurov The exp tends to fall to most inconvenient times
11:34 ThickAsThieves wrestling got stupid when it tried to mature
11:34 ThickAsThieves it should have always been a superhero cartoon
11:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.10099644 BTC [-]
11:35 mircea_popescu TomServo hey, what can i tell you. it's not that i didn't like it because they made safer
11:35 mircea_popescu it's just... once they made it safer it became whatever.
11:35 ThickAsThieves i think they also got distracted by Ultimate Fighting
11:35 mircea_popescu "Holy moly - someone bet 1000 xbt. Is that you, Roger?"
11:35 mircea_popescu gotta love reddits :D
11:36 TomServo mircea_popescu: so if someone dies this year, you back in? :D
11:36 jurov ThickAsThieves: i hope that's not related to teh bitbet :P
11:36 mircea_popescu lol
11:36 mircea_popescu i loved senna too. it
11:36 mircea_popescu s just... worst fucking thing you can do in memory of someone who died
11:36 mircea_popescu make the thing he died for die with him.
11:37 ThickAsThieves the BRK bettor already saying he won't bet cuz it's in bitcoin
11:38 ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20jxdg/bitcoin_baron_bets_bitcoin_beats_berkshire/cg3z8yi
11:38 mircea_popescu derp.
11:39 mircea_popescu i thought he won't bet because all he had was a 25 bitcent share.
11:42 mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/ < look, it's on the hotlist.
11:42 ozbot Bitcoin
11:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 18 @ 0.00565901 = 0.1019 BTC [+] {2}
11:46 ThickAsThieves doesnt appear as hot for me, maybe cuz i posted it?
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.30790962 BTC to 3`901 shares, 59162 satoshi per share
12:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1775 @ 0.0008949 = 1.5884 BTC [+]
12:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07 = 0.28 BTC [+]
12:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.0008949 = 4.743 BTC [+]
12:21 Apocalyptic .d
12:21 ozbot 4.250 billion | Next Diff in 1456 blocks | Estimated Change: 8.4784% in 9d 5h 55m 19s
12:26 copumpkin mircea_popescu: hardcore :)
12:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.08605557 = 0.7745 BTC [-] {3}
12:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.05367992 = 0.8052 BTC [+] {8}
12:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00088955 = 3.6916 BTC [-] {2}
12:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3663 @ 0.00014283 = 0.5232 BTC [-] {10}
12:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00088898 = 9.2454 BTC [-] {2}
12:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.0008905 = 14.3371 BTC [+] {2}
13:10 matthew_boyd mircea_popescu: did you put a 1000 btc bet that Bitcoin would be worth more than Bershire?
13:11 LordPutin thatpoor guy is going to loose 1000 btc :/
13:12 pizzaman1337 matthew_boyd: "worth more than Berkshire" doesn't accurately describe the bet, at all: http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/
13:13 matthew_boyd You get what I mean, I phased it poorly, I know.
13:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4375 @ 0.00089437 = 3.9129 BTC [+]
13:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07 = 0.14 BTC [+]
13:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00089409 = 1.6094 BTC [-]
13:51 datz_ hey
13:53 datz_ i run an crypto assets company. how can i get involved with assbot?
14:06 taub get it listed in an exchange
14:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00088834 = 6.4849 BTC [-]
14:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 139 @ 0.00345 = 0.4796 BTC [+]
14:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12738 @ 0.00089022 = 11.3396 BTC [+] {3}
14:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00014999 = 0.15 BTC [+] {3}
14:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00088777 = 8.1231 BTC [-]
14:32 mircea_popescu datz_ there's a link on the website, check topic
14:32 mircea_popescu holy shit... i go on twitter, "76 new interactions"
14:32 mircea_popescu i've been interacted to all hell
14:42 mircea_popescu copumpkin mircea h popescu
14:43 datz_ how do we list on MPEX?
14:45 thestringpuller lol
14:46 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust datz_
14:46 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user datz_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=datz_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=datz_ | Rated since: never
14:46 mircea_popescu well, some trust would help. who are you ?
14:46 datz_ i run a company we want listed
14:46 datz_ that does crypto assets
14:47 mircea_popescu that's maybe what are you doing. who are you ?
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14:47 datz_ CEO
14:48 mircea_popescu this is going great so far.
14:49 datz_ i run https://peercover.com and sponsor http://openxrptalk.com
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14:49 datz_ we want to pay homage and do a funding round on MPEX
14:50 Apocalyptic you will find much XRP love around here
14:50 datz_ we do BTC/XRP/DOGE/NXT/ETH/PPC/NCM/AUR you name it
14:51 datz_ we have 5 additional people we need to hire
14:53 mircea_popescu datz_ thats nice, but listing is purely a fiduciary exercise. you have to be trusted, for which you have to be known. so you know, spend a year reading the logs.
14:53 datz_ we have two exchanges, a betting platform, an insurance platform, an investment platform, a credit and wallet platform, a chat platform - all in one
14:54 datz_ i am well known
14:54 copumpkin yeah, this ain't glbse ya know
14:54 datz_ just don;t use IRC
14:54 * copumpkin runs
14:54 datz_ i built my own chat platforms - have no need for IRC
14:54 copumpkin datz_: IRC isn't about the platform, it's about who you find on it
14:55 copumpkin I've built my own chat programs but nobody is on them :P
14:55 copumpkin where else can I find someone like mircea_popescu?
14:55 datz_ the one guy i worked with used IRC stole 2.8 million XRP from me
14:55 datz_ so i don;t trust people on IRC
14:55 mircea_popescu sucks huh.
14:55 Apocalyptic how is that relevant ?
14:55 copumpkin hey, this guy I spoke to once pickpocketed me
14:56 datz_ why i don't use IRC or have trust here
14:56 copumpkin so I never talk to people in person anymore
14:56 copumpkin makes my work life difficult but I survive
14:56 mircea_popescu and now for the hardest task of all : to attend to my 173 messages inbox, which so far all consist of "hey you're so cool!"
14:56 copumpkin lol
14:56 mircea_popescu i hope you're jealous kakobrekla
14:56 mircea_popescu im getting carpal over here just downloading all these cookies.
14:57 copumpkin mircea_popescu: please allow me to fellate you
14:57 mircea_popescu copumpkin i guess it's kinda difficult for outsiders to realise just how deep, powerful and far reaching irc is.
14:57 copumpkin mircea_popescu: not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I actually do think it's a pretty great thing
14:57 copumpkin the tech is shit
14:58 mircea_popescu no, i was being plain. shit or not shit, i'm here after all.
14:58 copumpkin yeah
14:58 mircea_popescu tcp/ip is shit for that matter.
14:59 datz_ ok darn so IRC is too cheeky and suspicious to let me list here. don't say i didn't offer you the opportunity. will just have to stick with my own decentralized exchange :)
14:59 copumpkin lol
14:59 chetty its the modern form of the gentlemans club :P
14:59 * copumpkin cries a river
14:59 Apocalyptic "decentralized exchange" // I guess this guy has it all
15:00 copumpkin he has his own chat platform, his own decentralized exchange
15:00 copumpkin never mind that nobody uses either of them, at least he can use them
15:00 mircea_popescu lmao cheeky what ?
15:00 mircea_popescu opporunity ?
15:01 mircea_popescu dudes gotta come off their pipe.
15:04 kakobrekla i only got 173 less than you.
15:05 mircea_popescu so guise, we need to sit together and come up with a strategy to attract more dudes who don't know who they are but suspect it may be ceo in this thing of ours.
15:05 mircea_popescu i believe it's called adoption
15:06 mircea_popescu or penetration, or something.
15:06 copumpkin mircea_popescu: I know what. I have this LLC I use for money laundering and it's super profitable. If you pay me 10k btc, I'll let you list it on your exchange.
15:07 mircea_popescu has it been started 2 weeks ago through lying on a common bank application, all constructed on the basis of some material a website mailed you ?
15:07 copumpkin omg you participate in that program too?
15:07 copumpkin dammit
15:07 mircea_popescu no this is a different one.
15:09 mircea_popescu http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:5.153.234.66
15:09 ozbot User talk:5.153.234.66 - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft
15:09 mircea_popescu sheeit.
15:09 mircea_popescu dude come back
15:10 mircea_popescu please ipo your wow character.
15:17 mircea_popescu ” Despite its generally female-friendly environment, Horvath claims that she had “a really hard time getting used to the culture, the aggressive communication on pull requests and how little the men [she] worked with respected and valued [her] opinion.”
15:18 mircea_popescu dude how come every single obnoxious bitch out there imagines she's entitled to misrepresent her broken mental processes as "a problem of women everywhere" ?
15:18 mircea_popescu women everywhere are emphatically not as stupid as her.
15:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.067963 = 0.6796 BTC [-] {4}
15:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00088771 = 7.6787 BTC [-] {2}
15:18 mircea_popescu what's more, they're stupid in their own private personal ways, which differ from hers, even should she "feel" it's not fair that should be the case.
15:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6105 = 1.221 BTC [-] {2}
15:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.0902 = 0.451 BTC [+] {3}
15:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.06813999 = 0.6814 BTC [+] {8}
15:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.05281003 = 0.1584 BTC [-] {2}
15:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.11950724 BTC [-]
15:25 KRS-1 .bait
15:25 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3f4uf0YZb1qf0gljo1_500.jpg
15:25 KRS-1 This bait sucks.
15:26 KRS-1 Unsatisfactory .bait links lately.
15:27 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/5baf1143cb19e88642fe6415d6df5549/tumblr_msaglaHUnU1raljz5o1_1280.jpg
15:27 mircea_popescu you're spoiled rotten is your problem.
15:29 sheldonthomas ;;gettrust sheldonthomas
15:29 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user sheldonthomas to user sheldonthomas: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=sheldonthomas&dest=sheldonthomas | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=sheldonthomas | Rated since: never
15:30 mircea_popescu sheldonthomas trying to decide if you should trust yourself ?
15:37 sheldonthomas yeah it's existential
15:39 mircea_popescu it works better like this :
15:39 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust copumpkin
15:39 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user copumpkin: Level 1: 6, Level 2: 38 via 21 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=copumpkin | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=copumpkin | Rated since: Mon Jun 20 16:53:19 2011
15:39 KRS-1 .bait
15:39 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3qn7zfhOg1r7wy42o1_500.jpg
15:40 copumpkin w00t
15:40 KRS-1 whoa a sista
15:40 sheldonthomas ;;gettrust mircea_popescu
15:40 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user sheldonthomas to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=sheldonthomas&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011
15:40 KRS-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JhsUFuqbCM
15:40 ozbot Velvet Revolver - Fall To Pieces - YouTube
15:41 mircea_popescu basically it's a graph walker. as you're unconnected all your results will be 0 0 0
15:43 sheldonthomas i hadn't seen that graphing function. very nice. i lost my gpg key i registered on otc from 2011
15:45 sheldonthomas ;;book
15:45 gribble (book <thing>) -- Get a list of open orders for <thing>. Web view: http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php
15:45 sheldonthomas ;;book btcusd
15:45 gribble Error: No orders for this currency present in database.
15:46 sheldonthomas ;;book BTC
15:46 gribble Error: Too many orders to list on IRC. Visit the web order book, http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?eitherthing=BTC to see list of orders for this item.
15:46 sheldonthomas ;;book USD
15:46 gribble Error: Too many orders to list on IRC. Visit the web order book, http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?eitherthing=USD to see list of orders for this item.
15:48 sheldonthomas hey mircea where do i register a new keypair
15:51 ThickAsThieves i figured it out with zero experience
15:51 ThickAsThieves read
15:51 ThickAsThieves the wot link has links
15:52 ThickAsThieves ;;google bitcoin wot
15:52 gribble #bitcoin-otc: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/>; #bitcoin-otc web of trust: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/trust.php>; #bitcoin-otc web of trust data: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratings.php>
15:54 thestringpuller ThickAsThieves is a n00b with da cryptos
15:59 mircea_popescu sheldonthomas http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication
16:03 sheldonthomas ;;gettrust sheldonthomas
16:03 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask sheldonthomas!~sheldonth@207-38-147-49.c3-0.avec-ubr2.nyr-avec.ny.cable.rcn.com. Trust relationship from user sheldonthomas to user sheldonthomas: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=sheldonthomas&dest=sheldonthomas | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=sheldonthomas | Rated since: never
16:03 sheldonthomas boy that hostmask sure is revealing
16:04 sheldonthomas ;;get trust ThickAsThieves
16:04 gribble Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, and Topic plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get".
16:04 sheldonthomas ;;gettrust ThickAsThieves
16:04 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask ThickAsThieves!~ThickAsTh@unaffiliated/thickasthieves. Trust relationship from user sheldonthomas to user ThickAsThieves: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=sheldonthomas&dest=ThickAsThieves | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ThickAsThieves | Rated since: Sat Mar 2 11:19:18 2013
16:04 mircea_popescu you can do that in private with gribble too.
16:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.0034895 = 0.15 BTC [+]
16:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00088747 = 14.5989 BTC [-] {3}
16:09 joecool ;;ident gribble
16:09 gribble Nick 'gribble', with hostmask 'gribble!~gribble@unaffiliated/nanotube/bot/gribble', is not identified.
16:09 joecool it's a fake
16:10 mircea_popescu faux gribble
16:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12037 @ 0.00088553 = 10.6591 BTC [-] {2}
16:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00088509 = 4.7795 BTC [-]
16:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00088509 = 1.5489 BTC [-]
16:35 sheldonthomas Isn't it advantageous to make small bets against large ones on bitbet, since regardless of what you believe the odds are, you are splitting a larger winning pool from the other side
16:47 Mats_cd03 why dont you make a small wager against every large bet then
16:51 mircea_popescu i didnt follow the logic of that.
16:53 ThickAsThieves depends on your goal sheldon
16:53 ThickAsThieves obviously there is more to gain, but you can still lose 100%
16:53 ThickAsThieves however, if you feel the large bet is correct, like in this case of this BRK one
16:54 ThickAsThieves you'd want to bet both sides while the weight is in your favor
16:54 ThickAsThieves this assumes the No's won't ruin that weight
16:54 ThickAsThieves on your hedge bet
16:55 ThickAsThieves the expense to hedge being very cheap
16:55 ThickAsThieves when a bet is 1000:1
16:55 Mats_cd03 dont grace that with a response, he cant be so dumb as to share a simplistic thought like that
16:56 ThickAsThieves a great phenomenon of this bet, is people thinking like him
16:56 ThickAsThieves they see it like a scratcher
16:57 ThickAsThieves sure i think btc will win! but dat odds! i'm willing to throw .001 against that!
16:57 Mats_cd03 its context dependent and if you cant handle high school probability you will be ignored by the universe
16:59 ThickAsThieves "Agreed. Looks good. But what I don't get is the huge jump to 41,734.95 in total earned BTC.
16:59 ThickAsThieves Is it caused by the acquisition of bit777 etc. or is this a mistake?"
16:59 ThickAsThieves "No - arithmetic error in the calculation. Fixed - thanks for point it out!"
16:59 ThickAsThieves lol
17:00 Mats_cd03 and occasionally having your wages garnished by things like the brk-a bet or slot machines because youre too stubborn to understand probabilities
17:01 ThickAsThieves after that pumper was here this morning claming CBTC would double in value, they issue a report saying they lost money
17:02 ThickAsThieves i'm offended that erik's reddit thread on the bet gets more shine than mine :(
17:03 Mats_cd03 bad PR in erik's thread for mpoe
17:06 ThickAsThieves "Hence why the bet is in bitcoins - zero risk for the better and something only an idiot would participate in. I'm sure buffet's seen this one before but most of the morons on this subreddit have not."
17:06 ThickAsThieves zero risk!
17:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16218 @ 0.00088694 = 14.3844 BTC [+] {2}
17:08 Mats_cd03 i didnt realize until i read the trilema post that the brk-a bet originated from mp
17:09 Mats_cd03 i feel thats a missed pr opportunity
17:09 ThickAsThieves seriously?
17:09 ThickAsThieves i assumed immediately
17:10 ThickAsThieves he posts about the bet and elaborates, and people still think it's erik...
17:10 ThickAsThieves the originating reddit link points to mp's blog
17:11 Mats_cd03 the link with the most traffic points to bitbet
17:13 ThickAsThieves which boggles my mind
17:13 ThickAsThieves mine even has a better headline!
17:14 ThickAsThieves i guess i need to work on my brand
17:14 ThickAsThieves and jesushood
17:14 Mats_cd03 i'll perforate your hands for a small fee
17:15 ThickAsThieves sadly thats not enough these days
17:15 ThickAsThieves i'd need to start preaching and using words like community, decentralization, and such
17:15 ThickAsThieves sad that in order to be jesus one must sell their soul
17:18 mircea_popescu Ansgar John @ErikVoorhees @WarrenBuffett @Mircea_Popescu a year is a much too short amount of time to say much. Bet him 15 years and he might take it.
17:18 mircea_popescu Mircea Popescu And yet he publishes yearly statements.
17:18 mircea_popescu Ansgar John which state the results 'in any given quarter or year are often meaningless. '
17:18 mircea_popescu Mircea Popescu Yes well, I once asked a married woman to my hotel room. She said no and yet showed up.
17:18 mircea_popescu why do people have so much difficulty groiking the supremacy of action over speech is beyond me.
17:20 Mats_cd03 because you can never win on the internet
17:20 mircea_popescu o that. myeah.
17:22 mircea_popescu Mar 05 03:06:20 <mircea_popescu>when i do hidden in plain sight, it's hidden. when the usg tries it, it's snowdened.
17:23 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves lol epic that shit. "o we just arithmeticed 47k earned income. shoulda been in bitcents. oops"
17:36 Apocalyptic <tianrui81317> where to find people to make bitcoin related website for me? thanks
17:36 Apocalyptic <tianrui81317> I want to build a website absolutely similar to bitbet
17:36 Apocalyptic sigh, but seems the PR move worked
~ 18 minutes ~
17:55 mircea_popescu lmao
17:55 mircea_popescu clearly, bad pr and missed oportunities.
17:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13784 @ 0.00088721 = 12.2293 BTC [+]
17:56 Hirethestache Is there a bitbet authy here?
17:57 mircea_popescu what's an authy
17:57 Hirethestache authorized manager/admin
17:57 Hirethestache sorry, hah
17:57 mircea_popescu myeah.
17:57 mircea_popescu "Buffett, Bitcoin Bear, Believes Berkshire Better Bet Because Bitcoin's Bubble Bound to Burst"
17:57 mircea_popescu seems tat created a... beast ?
17:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 279 @ 0.00088959 = 0.2482 BTC [+]
17:59 mircea_popescu btw guise : where to find people to make fiat related website for me? thanks. I want to build a website absolutely similar to obamacare.
18:04 mircea_popescu Bet started: 8 hours 20 minutes ago. Confirmed bets: 63 ( No: 56 / Yes: 7 )
18:04 mircea_popescu i'm really blown away by the yes bets.
18:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00088721 = 6.3436 BTC [+]
18:14 nubbins` any of you folks collect bullion?
18:15 bitcoinpete a little
18:15 nubbins` i just took a gold buffalo out of the packaging
18:15 nubbins` really really poor strike
18:15 nubbins` wondering if that's a common thing
18:16 bitcoinpete they probably can't stamp them fast enough to keep up with people who haven't heard of BTC
18:16 nubbins` heh.
18:17 mircea_popescu i hear modern coins are all shit
18:17 nubbins` nothing but good from the RCM
18:17 nubbins` but this buffalo is fucked
18:17 nubbins` seriously, the edge isn't even a uniform thickness
18:17 bitcoinpete brutal
18:17 nubbins` yeah
18:17 bitcoinpete ya my stuff is all rcm
18:17 nubbins` and there's a sharp ridge by the fatter part
18:17 mircea_popescu maybe keep it as "error"
18:17 nubbins` lel
18:17 nubbins` ULTRA RARE ERROR BUFFALO
18:18 nubbins` that's not a bad idea
18:18 bitcoinpete as rare as the buffalo itself
18:18 mircea_popescu fun fact : the buffalo is worth like 2k, and yet nominal face value would be like $50
18:18 mircea_popescu wonders of inflation
18:19 nubbins` yeah, $50 FV
18:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.067501 = 0.135 BTC [-]
18:19 nubbins` kind of a shit design too
18:19 mircea_popescu isn't it the old nickel indian face ?
18:20 nubbins` there's an indian of some sort on it
18:20 nubbins` which is, itself, a bit of a lel
18:20 nubbins` like putting a jew on the deutsche mark in the 1940s
18:21 nubbins` or having an office building here in newfoundland called the BEOTHUK BUILDING
18:22 mircea_popescu if i were designing the reichsmarks in 1940
18:22 ThickAsThieves <mircea_popescu> i'm really blown away by the yes bets. /// why's that?
18:22 mircea_popescu you bet your sweet ass there'd have been a topless jewish girl on the 2 mark piece
18:22 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i just didn't imagine anyone'd be doing it. i'm not saying it's a bad idea or anything, just, not what i had imagined.
18:23 bitcoinpete the higher the denomination, the more lewd
18:23 bitcoinpete 100 reichsmark would be a full on orgy
18:23 mircea_popescu nah, 5 marks could be tractors or w/e they did
18:23 mircea_popescu "face of ugly guy with mustache"
18:25 joecool nubbins`: never noticed you're newfie, i'll be there for like a month this summer
18:26 nubbins` ah, no way
18:26 nubbins` business or pleasure?
18:26 joecool nubbins`: pleasure, gf's parents own a house there
18:26 joecool lettin us use it for a month
18:26 mircea_popescu they have houses in canada ?!
18:26 joecool mircea_popescu: yeah iknorite?
18:26 nubbins` heh
18:26 nubbins` whereabouts in nl?
18:26 bitcoinpete out of mud, yes
18:27 bitcoinpete and teepees are totally houses
18:27 joecool nubbins`: i'm not entirely sure, i think it's around bay bull's though
18:27 nubbins` ah, my mother is from bay bulls.
18:28 nubbins` on the off chance, what's their last name?
18:28 joecool kennedy
18:28 mircea_popescu twist : nubbins` discovers his gf was doing double time
18:29 nubbins` ah, k, probably no relation there :D
18:29 joecool prob doesn't help much, pretty common name
18:29 nubbins` my brother in law is a kennedy, but he's from habour grace
18:29 joecool i've never been there, gf lives on ontario, i live in dirty jerz
18:29 nubbins` go on a whale watching tour when you're out there
18:29 ThickAsThieves anyone know the best bitcoin wallet for debian? I'm having trouble getting one to install
18:29 joecool nubbins`: you ever see the lights?
18:29 nubbins` nah, too far south
18:30 joecool for normal circumstances, just need to keep an eye on when storms flare up, last year i saw them once all the way down here
18:31 nubbins` nod
18:31 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: maybe the "yes" bettors figure bitbet can keep their coins safer than they can?
18:32 nubbins` joecool: if you're into hiking, the east coast trail from bay bulls to witless bay (and back on the railway bed) is a good one
18:32 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete this has been remarkably true in many cases so far.
18:32 mircea_popescu especioally visible on lengthy bets.
18:32 joecool nubbins`: will note that
18:33 nubbins` a lot of legs of the trail, you need either two cars or you double back. this particular one, you can make a loop of it
18:33 nubbins` ah, that bet is the top post on /r/Bitcoin right now
18:35 nubbins` i honestly have to lel at facebook sometimes
18:36 nubbins` cbc shares a video of a bunch of porpoises dying in the water near a supply ship that ran aground
18:36 nubbins` "14 people like this"
18:36 mircea_popescu maybe they were likeable corpses.
18:36 bitcoinpete haha
18:36 joecool should bring back the "become a fan" button
18:36 nubbins` "lost my baby today, feels like my heart has been ripped from my chest"
18:36 nubbins` 3 people like this
18:38 mircea_popescu "After my gangrape last night the doctors had some bad news :
18:38 mircea_popescu Not just HIV, but also cancer."
18:38 nubbins` "i'll never have kids"
18:38 nubbins` 50 people like this
18:39 mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20k63o/almost_50000_are_being_bet_that_1_btc_will_reach/
18:39 ozbot Almost $50,000 are being bet that 1 BTC will reach $10 000 before December 201 : Bitcoin
18:40 mircea_popescu lol reddit discovers bitbet. the first page is like full of bitbet stuff nao
18:40 nubbins` december 201
18:40 joecool mircea_popescu: makin it rain
18:41 nubbins` there's a few "don't give money to bitbet, scam, see this link" posts on everything related to bitbet that goes up
18:41 nubbins` without fail
18:41 mircea_popescu open market beagles all contain a little shit.
18:41 mircea_popescu it's how the open market works.
18:42 nubbins` gsdgdfs, do you even irc?
18:43 mircea_popescu this net is very slutty.
18:44 nubbins` *.net *.slut
18:45 mircea_popescu "Soooo.... I used a site in november called betsofbitco.in or something like that and i made a couple bets. Both have passed their date and still are awaiting decisions for 3 months now. I should be winning these bets but there seems to be nothing happening. Anyone know if that site is a scam"
18:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.05308993 = 0.3185 BTC [-] {5}
18:49 nubbins` imagine
18:50 mircea_popescu i learn a lot from reading reddit
18:50 nubbins` you're in the minority, then
18:50 nubbins` except for the people in /r/til
18:50 steven-__ https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/445300279030710272
18:50 ozbot Twitter / aantonop: Planning a podcast on sexism ...
18:51 nubbins` steven-__: golden hookers at conferences?
18:51 mircea_popescu lol the golden hooker... that sounds like a decent bitcoiner bar.
18:51 nubbins` honestly, i'd be embarassed to be seen at any bitcoin event
18:51 nubbins` so many neckbeards and wizards
18:51 mircea_popescu there could be an old crack whore chained to a wall in the bathroom, gilt.
18:52 mircea_popescu to represent our profound respect and deep use for precious metals.
18:53 freeroute won't multisig tx's make stuff like bitbet more 'safer' to use?
18:54 steven-__ safe is always the first word that comes to mind when i think of 3rd party and bitcoin
18:55 freeroute yeah, centralized solutions to a decentralized protocol aren't always a good thing
18:55 mircea_popescu freeroute apparently the people who make the calls in bitcoin don't give a shit about particular dead horse tropes.
18:55 mircea_popescu neckbeards will have to learn to live with it.
18:55 freeroute what particular dead horse tropes are you referring to?
18:56 mircea_popescu "multisig tx make things safer"
18:58 freeroute I guess it depends on the application, it won't make everything safe
18:58 mircea_popescu exactly.
18:58 mircea_popescu if you think about it : sites like bitbet require the power to pay winners.
18:58 mircea_popescu with losers' btc.
18:59 mircea_popescu so what exactly ? if you trust the site to adjudicate, you trust the site to hold the btc. there's nothing meaningful to gain by a separation
18:59 mircea_popescu unless the site itself implements it, which it probably does.
19:00 Mats_cd03 bitbet doesnt need smart contracts for what it does
19:00 Mats_cd03 is that the killer feature you are seeing in bitbet with multisig tx
19:01 freeroute I guess, not sure about the exact implementation, but it would certainly help bitbet's trust not being able to run away with the BTC
19:02 freeroute but then again, betting would then be limited to only certain bets
19:02 Mats_cd03 if you implemented it then heres whats going to happen:
19:03 Mats_cd03 people say the same things about bitbet operations, but this time they accuse third_party in the same breath
19:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00088607 = 1.7721 BTC [-]
19:03 cazalla steven-__: he won't attend conferences unless they have a sexual harassment policy in place as well, the guy is a total SJW
19:03 mircea_popescu freeroute you've somehow entirely glossed over what was said.
19:04 mircea_popescu inasmuch as bitbet can resolve bets, it can run off with all btc whether you multisig or not.
19:04 steven-__ what a clown
19:04 mircea_popescu the reason bitbet is trusted is for proper reasons, ie, being run by trustworth people.
19:04 Mats_cd03 and then you've also created a game theoretic scenario where all involved parties can potentially be robbed
19:04 mircea_popescu not because of improper nonsense, such as "it couldn't gyp us".
19:05 mircea_popescu i understand that there's a very strong desire in the socially-challenged for replacing girlfriends with porn, but that's not how finance works.
19:05 mircea_popescu or copulation, for that matter.
19:05 mircea_popescu you'll always need people. and that's a good thing, because if you didn't the planet'd be pretty darn barren by now.
19:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.06538076 = 1.6999 BTC [-] {6}
19:08 freeroute well yeah at this point I can't see bitbet implementing such a thing because of the nature of the bets (the bets would then be binary and somehow be validated for provably true)
19:08 Mats_cd03 of party (you, her, and third_party), the following set [(third_party,her), (you,her), (you,third_party)] represents who can collude to screw you, third_party, and her
19:09 freeroute but I do hope that trust will get out of people's hands into the hands of cryptography. Because generally, people are not a good thing, and never were.
19:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.06976999 = 0.4884 BTC [+] {7}
19:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05200601 = 0.104 BTC [-] {2}
19:12 mircea_popescu freeroute that's nonsense.
19:12 mircea_popescu communism had a better shot than that.
19:14 freeroute you didn't have applied mathematics you have now in the 'haydays' of communism
19:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00587047 = 0.1233 BTC [-] {3}
19:14 mircea_popescu if I. you see ?
19:15 mircea_popescu applied mathematics still has to be applied. and i was there when communism fell, and i saw no mathematics anywhere around me.
19:15 mircea_popescu twas just a sea of people.
19:16 freeroute the point is, that right now we have a distributed asset class / currency protected by cryptography. It shifts trust from centralized models to a distributed one. That could be seen as step 1.
19:16 freeroute luckily, the technology which is getting built on top of it, will bring lots of such decentralizations
19:16 mircea_popescu is the wot centralised or distributed in your nomenclature ?
19:17 freeroute colored coins is also an example of this
19:17 nubbins` colored fuckin coins
19:17 mircea_popescu nubbins` you knew that was coming out.
19:17 nubbins` what's unicorn cum an example of?
19:17 nubbins` rainbows?
19:18 freeroute mircea_popescu: difficult. I'd say both, I wouldn't trust it more then I would trust security through obscurity
19:19 freeroute *than
19:19 freeroute not sure about implementation of colored coins, but the concept is amazing
19:19 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
19:19 mircea_popescu well then i'd propose you have no idea what you're talking about, if you use a nomenclature that fails to even split the world properly.
19:20 mircea_popescu were i to decide to split all objects into heavy and light i could fucking tell you whether a breadbox is heavy or light.
19:20 freeroute WOT can be as centralized or as decentralized as you make it, the trust could all lead to a central authority (or central authorities)
19:21 mircea_popescu the wot dood.
19:21 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust freeroute
19:21 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user freeroute: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=freeroute | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=freeroute | Rated since: Tue Apr 2 18:13:09 2013
19:21 mircea_popescu that one
19:21 ThickAsThieves freeroute, so decentralized protects people from scammers?
19:21 freeroute web of trust, yes. Like the GPG WOT?
19:21 ThickAsThieves interesting
19:22 freeroute no, I didn't say that.
19:22 ThickAsThieves tell me how
19:22 ThickAsThieves what does it do again?
19:22 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it protects people from having to bow down to their superiors, which idiots with delusions of independence loathe.
19:23 ThickAsThieves does it?
19:23 mircea_popescu ultimate autists' fantasy this, "trustless systems".
19:23 ThickAsThieves humanless systems
19:23 mircea_popescu exactly.
19:23 freeroute ThickAsThieves: it makes stock issuance and distribution extremely resilient
19:24 ThickAsThieves from what?
19:24 mircea_popescu you.can.not.have.stocks.without.trusting.the.issuer.
19:24 mircea_popescu jesus god.
19:24 freeroute true, I didn't claim otherwise
19:24 ThickAsThieves you claimed resilience
19:24 freeroute but at least that prevents the exchange screwing everyone over
19:24 ThickAsThieves to what?
19:24 mircea_popescu freeroute and yet this is a solved problem in fiat too.
19:24 mircea_popescu nyse never screwed anyone over.
19:25 mircea_popescu how come ?
19:25 freeroute closing exchanges, for one. over-zealous regulators is another.
19:25 ThickAsThieves you can protect issuers from regulators?
19:25 mircea_popescu ah this is too much, i'll bbl.
19:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00088607 = 3.3671 BTC [-]
19:25 nubbins` WELL GREAT THERE GOES THE CONVERSATION
19:25 ThickAsThieves lol
19:26 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fell1NPfWH0
19:26 ozbot Well great, there goes the band Dollhouse - YouTube
19:26 freeroute wasn't there a documentary about a CS guy who found out that stock exchanges (like the NYSE) were basically frauding people?
19:26 ThickAsThieves you can't remove people from the system
19:26 freeroute of course you can't, but you can minimize their impact on it
19:27 ThickAsThieves you realize a good exchange actually plays a role
19:27 freeroute which is?
19:27 ThickAsThieves to provide a number of services
19:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05439423 = 0.1088 BTC [+]
19:27 ThickAsThieves to the issuers, to regulators, to traders
19:28 ThickAsThieves a decentralized one can't fill all roles
19:28 ThickAsThieves it can only automate
19:29 ThickAsThieves even then, don't most of these decentralized exchanges lean on less than 10 points of trust?
19:29 ThickAsThieves is a decentralized stock exchange not able to be regulated?
19:29 freeroute there isn't a decentralized CC exchange yet AFAIK
19:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.03764609 = 0.1506 BTC [+] {3}
19:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.065 = 0.52 BTC [-]
19:29 ThickAsThieves would anyone providing ledger services to a stock exchange not be regulatable?
19:30 freeroute in the case of CC, wouldn't it itself be a ledger (or the blockchain itself being a ledger) ?
19:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.06318838 = 1.1374 BTC [-] {2}
19:30 freeroute it would be regulated the same way BTC would, I assume
19:30 ThickAsThieves (I realize this leads to arguments on bitcoin's susceptibility to regulation)
19:31 ThickAsThieves BTC's regulatory future is not finalized yknow
19:31 ThickAsThieves miners could come under it
19:31 ThickAsThieves and likely will eventually
19:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0630001 = 0.315 BTC [-] {2}
19:32 freeroute hmm, I always thought that regulation in regards to BTC could only be applied at the "IRL" fiat-side of things
19:32 freeroute so assume miners fall under the regulation, who's to say they won't employ techniques to evade that regulation?
19:32 ThickAsThieves the USG for example cares most about two things
19:32 ThickAsThieves money laundering
19:32 ThickAsThieves and consumer protection
19:33 ThickAsThieves in regards to btc at least
19:33 Mats_cd03 i fucking hate that phrase, 'money laundering'
19:33 Mats_cd03 i move to have it permanently banned from use
19:33 freeroute ThickAsThieves: well, it's nice that they care.
19:33 ThickAsThieves regulating that no miner may have more than XX% of the network power is not an absurd notion
19:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05438353 = 0.1088 BTC [-] {2}
19:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.06700052 = 0.134 BTC [-] {2}
19:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.11950724 BTC [-]
19:34 freeroute regulating that is also nice. But how would that be applied?
19:34 ThickAsThieves not applied, enforced
19:34 nubbins` it wouldn't
19:34 Mats_cd03 you could not enforce that
19:34 ThickAsThieves well
19:34 Mats_cd03 without a centralization authority which the protocol lacks for this purpose
19:34 ThickAsThieves someone is caught doing it, for example
19:34 nubbins` trivial to circumvent
19:34 ThickAsThieves they are hauled in
19:35 ThickAsThieves well many laws are trivial to circumvent
19:35 ThickAsThieves doesnt stop them from existing
19:35 nubbins` too true
19:35 nubbins` "no miner may mine more than XX TH/s from the same IP"
19:35 freeroute enforced was the word I was looking for indeed
19:35 ThickAsThieves maybe ASICMINER grunt whistleblows in 2017
19:35 ThickAsThieves doesnt have to be easy to catch someone
19:36 ThickAsThieves it would just be such that someone breaking a law, would now know so
19:36 ThickAsThieves of course people here would disagree this is even possible
19:36 ThickAsThieves regulating bitcoin
19:37 Mats_cd03 i suppose a combined legal and technical approach would be a best-effort case for enforcement
19:37 ThickAsThieves i'm on the fence
19:37 ThickAsThieves i think it can be for the most part
19:37 freeroute even so, they parties who disagree can easily operate in area's which do not have those regulations
19:37 freeroute *the parties
19:37 ThickAsThieves well same for all laws right?
19:37 Mats_cd03 i would not bet any of my wealth on a best-effort approach
19:38 ThickAsThieves you wanna sell pot, move to Amesterdam
19:38 ThickAsThieves etc
19:38 ThickAsThieves Amsterdam*
19:38 ThickAsThieves people keep jumping to these yeah but it's international arguments
19:38 freeroute not really a great example since selling pot commercially is still heavily regulated and still not legal, but I do see where you're getting at
19:38 ThickAsThieves it doesnt matter
19:39 ThickAsThieves all the world is international, yet every country has different laws
19:39 ThickAsThieves yet people live in every country
19:39 ThickAsThieves the world turns
19:39 freeroute what Bitcoin (for the most part) enables, is full "in the cloud" operation wherever you geographically might be positioned. As long as you're connected, you can do most of the stuff with BTC.
19:40 ThickAsThieves so why the effort to remove trust from the equation?
19:40 ThickAsThieves you can't
19:40 Mats_cd03 youve blown my mind, i never realized that about bitcoin /s
19:40 ThickAsThieves hell, 99.9% of the people never even vetted the code
19:41 ThickAsThieves for all we know it's majorly flawed and the people that know choose to just bank off it
19:41 ThickAsThieves how's that for trust?
19:42 ThickAsThieves are you gonna go through the CC code?
19:43 freeroute putting trust from the hands of people into mathematics is a way of making sure that you can't be screwed by people, which has happened numerous times already.
19:43 ThickAsThieves do you know how decentralized it really is?
19:43 ThickAsThieves same for Mastercoin etc
19:43 freeroute well you can't abolish trust entirely, that would be unreal
19:44 ThickAsThieves what if ghash.io manages 80% of the CC ledger?
19:44 ThickAsThieves what if they wait 9mos til everyone gets comfortable and fuck everyone over?
19:44 freeroute CC doesn't have a ledger AFAIK, it uses BTC ledger
19:44 ThickAsThieves something manages the metadata no?
19:45 freeroute the metadata is inside of the BTC tx'es, right?
19:45 ThickAsThieves what parses it?
19:45 ThickAsThieves what maintains updated listings?
19:45 freeroute the client, same way the BTC client parses the blockchain
19:45 freeroute (I assume)
19:45 ThickAsThieves i may be mixing OT and MasterCoin in here
19:46 freeroute MC is similar to CC but OT is a communication system which can be used on top of MC / CC AFAIK
19:46 ThickAsThieves as i understood decentralized systems, they utilize new ledgers, maintained by servers
19:46 freeroute ah that sounds like OT's system
19:47 ThickAsThieves in the end though youre still quite a slave to the issuer
19:47 ThickAsThieves an exchange has an incentive to vet it's issuers
19:47 ThickAsThieves its*
19:47 freeroute well no one stops a service vetting issuers
19:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05396624 = 0.1079 BTC [+] {2}
19:48 ThickAsThieves well you want to rmeove the exchange right?
19:48 freeroute so?
19:48 ThickAsThieves compare mpex and cryptostocks
19:48 ThickAsThieves this is how it unfolds
19:49 ThickAsThieves why wouldnt a reputable issuer use a reputable exchange?
19:49 freeroute nothing, but then the issuer would then be at the mercy of the exchange
19:50 ThickAsThieves the CC system will be riddled with scams and issuers no one else would have
19:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 309 @ 0.00088607 = 0.2738 BTC [-]
19:50 freeroute true
19:50 nubbins` ^
19:50 freeroute just like Bitcoin was/is
19:50 nubbins` ^
19:50 mircea_popescu ...
19:50 freeroute but that's the nature of decentralized and unregulated systems
19:50 ThickAsThieves that you cant trust them?
19:50 mircea_popescu bitcoin is about to rip buffett a new one. what are you talking about.
19:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29691 @ 0.00088254 = 26.2035 BTC [-] {4}
19:51 ThickAsThieves bitcoin is not comparable to stock issuance
19:51 freeroute ThickAsThieves: that there is no middleman in between that can screw things up
19:51 mircea_popescu <freeroute> there isn't a decentralized CC exchange yet AFAIK << there has been, for years. ot, open transactions.
19:51 ThickAsThieves bitcoin makes no claims
19:51 ThickAsThieves had no obligations
19:51 ThickAsThieves it is what it is
19:52 freeroute indeed
19:52 cadmus2 MtGox is mentioned on the FAQ page - came in here to let someone update it
19:52 mircea_popescu cadmus2 faq page of what.
19:52 cadmus2 http://bitbet.us/faq/
19:52 ozbot FAQ BitBet
19:52 freeroute mircea_popescu: hmm, I was under the impression that OT was still being developed
19:53 mircea_popescu anyway, freeroute, you'll need to do some reading. like http://trilema.com/2012/gpg-contracts/ and http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/
19:54 mircea_popescu cadmus2 a. well so it'll be a nice bit of memorabilia, by 2025 people will be all "hmm what's a mtgox"
19:54 mircea_popescu then granpa mp can tell the chitlins all about this magic the gathering thing
19:56 cadmus2 true
19:56 freeroute mircea_popescu: cool, I'll give them a read.
19:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06907202 = 0.1381 BTC [+]
19:57 mircea_popescu cool.
19:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8337 @ 0.00088008 = 7.3372 BTC [-]
20:00 mircea_popescu "It would be so awesome, if the owner of this homepage just takes all the coins. :D it's almost 2 000 000 fucking dollars!!!!"
20:01 benderp california ain't so bad after all, guys!
20:01 benderp the women are retarded
20:01 benderp the men are retarded
20:02 benderp 50% of the land is covered with asphalt, and 40% with retarded californian lean-to's in the style of something elsewhere that actually matters
20:02 khersonus taking coins is typical stupid bitcoin user logic. It shows with the number of scams that have happened.
20:03 benderp but the best part is how the cell network can't sustain a connection to IRC via anything but JS.
20:03 benderp FML.
20:05 mircea_popescu benderp well look on the bright side : maybe it falls into the ocean.
20:06 mircea_popescu khersonus what were you trying to say ?
20:07 khersonus mircea_popescu: that there have been a large number of scams in bitcoin as a result of the "owner takes all the coins" thinking
20:07 khersonus mircea_popescu: btw, been reading through your blog, good stuff (and some... weird stuff)
20:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06907214 = 0.1381 BTC [+]
20:10 mircea_popescu the problem here would be that bitcoin is a two tier society.
20:10 mircea_popescu while the plebs like to claim that they're "the community", this was never either true or seriously considered by anyone.
20:11 mircea_popescu so... don't tell me about how the people that didn't listen to mpoe-pr and went and lost their btc on glbse somehow "Suffered"
20:11 mircea_popescu they suffered the just reward for their idiocy, which has nothing to do with bitcoin in any sense, and even less with exchanges, or with owners
20:12 Mats_cd03 benderp: try irccloud?
20:14 asciilifeform damn it, i leave for just one day to hang out with humans in person, and miss all this good shit.
20:15 mircea_popescu lol
20:15 mircea_popescu decentralize!
20:15 khersonus mircea_popescu: why not run your options system with your own pricing index? it seemed to me that your two complaints about bitcoincharts were that an exchange pushed doge data, and they didn't remove mtgox. Couldn't you do better yourself?
20:16 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves o hey, the bet is officially a net positive nao. Yes pays: 0.99990488
20:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00088721 = 5.5007 BTC [+]
20:16 mircea_popescu khersonus i could, practically. i couldn't, theoretically, becuase THAT would be undue concentration, ie the bad sort of centralisation.
20:17 asciilifeform from the loltron:
20:17 asciilifeform http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraines-gold-reserves-secretely-flown-out-and-confiscated-by-the-new-york-federal-reserve/5373446
20:17 Duffer1 that would be a pretty massive conflict of interest khers
20:17 mircea_popescu lol poor guys.
20:17 mircea_popescu Duffer1 imagine if i also got to select the secret valid nonce for each block, too.
20:18 Duffer1 would you buy romania?
20:19 mircea_popescu nah
20:19 khersonus Duffer1: maybe that's true. But maybe this big bet on berkshire is also a conflict of interests? he owns most of bitbet anyway, I thought
20:19 mircea_popescu khersonus so what is the ownership of bitbet going to do, change the brk-a market ?
20:19 Duffer1 that's different though, the terms are clear to everyone and unalterable
20:21 ThickAsThieves well technically the terms are alterable
20:21 benderp oh teh ironies
20:21 ThickAsThieves if they want to lose trust
20:21 Duffer1 i suppose so, you are right
20:22 khersonus a proper index could publish all of its calculations. It could even be a collection of scripts that everyone could run to verify the data on their own. mircea could just publish the verified results.
20:22 benderp asciilifeform: wtf? forgive my naive but what are the actual odds of that happening?!
20:22 ThickAsThieves to play devil's advocate, why wouldn't MPEx use a decentralized system to manage its issuances, assuming things like orderbook delays were not a problem?
20:22 asciilifeform anyone else's port 80 honeypots full of 'zologize' ?
20:22 mircea_popescu khersonus but there's some decisions to be made, and they're toxic for me.
20:22 asciilifeform some interesting rumour on the matter:
20:22 mircea_popescu someone else'd have to make them, and make them well.
20:22 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/03/nsa-zologize.htm
20:23 khersonus mircea_popescu: for example?
20:23 khersonus (dropping mtgox?)
20:23 mircea_popescu for instance.
20:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00349948 = 0.3394 BTC [+] {3}
20:23 mircea_popescu or rejecting bitfinex, which inexplicably everyone includes atm
20:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform doesn't seem too convincing to me.
20:25 khersonus it still doesn't seem like it would be that difficult of a problem. I'm surprised you haven't come up with a solution, given the potential profit it could have and has had for mpex
20:26 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: a turd that port scans wantonly would appear to be uncommonly poor workmanship even for usg.
20:26 asciilifeform but you never know.
20:26 mircea_popescu axa.php ? cmon.
20:26 mircea_popescu khersonus didja read teh mpoe report ?
20:26 ThickAsThieves didnt google cars go around pretty much port scanning entire nations?
20:27 khersonus I'll read it again
20:27 ThickAsThieves (wifi)
20:27 BingoBoingo http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Accused+court+bizarre+stabbing+Russian+diplomat/9622192/story.html
20:27 ozbot Man accused of stabbing Russian diplomat is DND employee, reservist
20:27 benkay much better.
20:27 bounce http://btcfaucet.com/logs/bitscotty/
20:27 ozbot Index of /logs/bitscotty
20:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00349951 = 0.1225 BTC [+]
20:29 mircea_popescu bounce lol! what's that ?
20:30 ThickAsThieves "Can someone explain to me why Berkshire stock has the value that it has? It has never paid a dividend. What benefit is there in owning such a stock, other than it increasing in value?"
20:30 mircea_popescu lol word.
20:30 mircea_popescu is this from twitter ?
20:31 Dimsler lol
20:31 khersonus "if you look at the whole pie I’d be muchly surprised if a tenth of all Bitcoin trade ever sees a so-called exchange website" < if this is really true, I can see your point. I've just never witnessed that much otc trading, perhaps.
20:31 Dimsler what do you mean?
20:31 benkay all complaints about california aside, the company is fantastic: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=3a7642c
20:31 Dimsler how is that any different then facebook?
20:31 benkay (amazing company)
20:31 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
20:32 benkay thanks, oz
20:35 mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20jxdg/bitcoin_baron_bets_bitcoin_beats_berkshire/cg40y9y
20:35 ozbot -altoid- comments on Bitcoin Baron Bets Bitcoin Beats Berkshire
20:35 mircea_popescu that's some pretty epic shit right there.
20:36 dub eww that thing looks like lorde
20:36 mircea_popescu "damn these reality check things getting in the way of my delusional substitute for a through process"
20:37 dub asciilifeform: is there something deeper than 'nsa tests botnet I think'?
20:38 asciilifeform dub: other than the factoid that they employ folks to steal poorly-secured traditional chumpnets, this is uninteresting.
20:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00088566 = 5.9782 BTC [-]
20:39 dub right
20:39 mircea_popescu the "it's nsa" link isn't particularly strong.
20:39 asciilifeform right
20:40 mircea_popescu 'random botnet-ish requests show vague link to nsa in one blogger's estimation' is what i'd call it
20:40 mircea_popescu which... jesus, you should see what's in my logs.
20:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0034994 = 0.28 BTC [-] {3}
20:41 mircea_popescu actually, here :
20:41 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/o-hai-i-was-justing-doing-a-penetration-test-of-your-site/
20:41 ozbot O hai. I was justing doing a penetration test of your site. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
20:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00349953 = 0.3465 BTC [+] {2}
20:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00349949 = 0.175 BTC [-]
20:43 Duffer1 so Obama called Putin to tell him the U.S. would never recognize the Crimea referendum. I can't imagine Putins response was anything other than "HAHAHHHAAHAHA"
20:44 mircea_popescu or perhaps something along the lines of "Yes well, I once asked a married woman to my hotel room. She said no and yet showed up."
20:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://t.co/DTU0Y8BKhJ
20:49 asciilifeform lol!
20:50 asciilifeform fellow's a pro clown, for those who didn't know.
20:50 mircea_popescu yeah but this time he hit on comedy.
20:50 asciilifeform although some of his proposals are popular in russia. e.g., re-conquest of the baltics to use as nuke waste storage.
20:51 mircea_popescu http://www.cnbc.com/id/101488710
20:51 ozbot Markets hang in the balance ahead of Fed decision
20:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5141 @ 0.00088721 = 4.5611 BTC [+]
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21:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 86 @ 0.00514875 = 0.4428 BTC [-] {7}
21:16 Hirethestache Is it possible to send a wager to Bit et from Coinbase?
21:16 Hirethestache BitBet*
21:17 mircea_popescu yes
21:17 mircea_popescu just make sure you control the outbound address
21:18 mircea_popescu (it asks you where should payment be sent if you win. make sure you own that address)
21:18 Duffer1 do you have confidence that coinbase will still be around by the time the bet resolves though..
21:18 Hirethestache I've searched for a simple guide, but there are not many resources on the specific resolve
21:18 benkay Duffer1: coinbase wouldn't have to be around by bet resolution, though.
21:19 benkay Hirethestache: do you have your own bitcoin wallet?
21:19 Hirethestache I do, more or less. I have my cold storage, but I use my small amount on CB for small transactions.
21:19 Duffer1 depends if he downloads the private keys or not
21:19 benkay you might consider developing a workflow that includes owning your own bitcoins.
21:19 benkay it's onerous, but most worthwhile things are.
21:21 Hirethestache I'm mobile, and there are not any iOS apps for BTC wallets that I know about. I have my android with a small wallet, but it's not on me ATM.
21:21 benkay do you not have a computer?
21:22 Hirethestache I'm traveling, so no unfortunately not.
21:22 benkay tough.
21:22 Hirethestache Just my iPhone and nexus tablet, but I won't have access to the nexus for 48hours
21:23 benkay you know the Nexus is trivially broken wide open and all storage read out, right?
21:23 benkay (true of all phone-type-combudder things)
21:23 Hirethestache Do you have any documentation on that? I need to look into that, definitely
21:24 benkay no documentation necessary. it's not your hardware. it doesn't obey your commands. don't put your coins on it.
21:24 bitcoinpete Partially inspired by freeroute:
21:24 benkay spend 200 bucks on a linux netbook.
21:25 bitcoinpete http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/irc-yeshiva/
21:25 ozbot IRC Yeshiva | When Bitcoin Met Pete
21:26 Hirethestache Oh yeah, I don't have any coins directly on it. I have a small Coinbase account, a small amount on my nexus wallet, and everything else on a paper wallet in a safe
21:26 mircea_popescu im with benkay. phones make poor wallets.
21:26 bitcoinpete Also partially inspired by Rabbi bin Popescu's "a bug in the implementation of physicality" line.
21:26 mircea_popescu having a few cents in there for convenience is fine, but don't go overboard
21:26 benkay convenience? this is bitcoin!!!11
21:27 benkay plan ahead, etc.
21:27 Hirethestache I agree. I have about 3 on CB and two on my nexus
21:27 mircea_popescu benkay as an experiment i put a privkey in a window at some point in 2012.
21:27 mircea_popescu it was unspent after a week
21:27 Hirethestache Another 12 on cold
21:27 benkay you keep 2/21M of the monetary base on your phone?!
21:28 benkay mircea_popescu: still unspent?
21:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.0008893 = 12.0056 BTC [+] {2}
21:28 test123 hello
21:28 mircea_popescu benkay well that was a while ago.
21:29 Hirethestache It's on the nexus which is wifi only, and I only go online when I need to use it for BTC. Two step aught still
21:29 mircea_popescu hi test123
21:29 benkay mircea_popescu: ...
21:29 test123 hi
21:29 benkay mircea_popescu: i guess 2012's a while ago in buttyears
21:29 mircea_popescu i eventually took it out, what.
21:30 test123 this is bitbet's forum?
21:30 benkay test123: lotsa stuff happens here. some bitbet stuff as well.
21:30 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/#c2632 < lmao
21:30 ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment
21:31 mircea_popescu bitcoinpete some history books are filled with pompoms
21:31 mircea_popescu like "An Illustrated History of Pompoms, and the BonBons that Whore Them"
21:31 mircea_popescu -h
21:31 Hirethestache But back to my original question, is there an easy way to send to bitbet from Coinbase? I wanna get in on this bet ASAP, but I only have my iPhone, ergo only have access to the Coinbase wallet
21:31 mircea_popescu Hirethestache you can send from anywhere. just make sure you control the outbound address you specify.
21:31 mircea_popescu that's why that's there.
21:32 bitcoinpete mircea_popescu lmao I'll have to look for those next time I'm at the public library
21:33 test123 for that berkshire bet, why are people betting now- why not wait until just before betting closes, when bets aren't locked in?
21:34 mircea_popescu because of the weight.
21:34 Hirethestache Might have to email myself from my Coinbase and take the address out of the ema. That's the only workaround I can think of
21:34 mircea_popescu Hirethestache if you say you have a cold wallet, you can just use that as a bitbet outbound address
21:34 benkay Hirethestache: there are also brainwallets you could use
21:34 mircea_popescu if you win it'll just be added to your cold wallet.
21:34 benkay ^^ or that
21:35 mircea_popescu test123 look at this one http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/
21:35 mircea_popescu compare 26-11-13 11:10Yes94`37011.0000000013kEx13.96254379 with 17-01-14 13:22Yes14`48210.0000000014NeT10.32864719
21:36 Hirethestache Mircea, I don't have the cold storage addresses stored digitally anywhere
21:36 mircea_popescu well that's maybe not so smart.
21:36 mircea_popescu don't you ever want to check it ?
21:37 Hirethestache Haven't had to, only had it for about two weeks
21:37 benkay you may consider a dicelist and a deterministic wallet, Hirethestache.
21:38 benkay ;;google dicelist
21:38 gribble Diceware Passphrase Home: <http://www.diceware.com/>; Romanian Dicelist pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/romanian-dicelist>; Diceware - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diceware>
21:38 mircea_popescu ah, the two weeks, bitcoin's only true measure of time.
21:38 mircea_popescu holy shit i rank for dicelist ?!
21:38 benkay apparently.
21:38 mircea_popescu such seo.
21:38 Hirethestache My bitcoin lingo is now officially dead in the water. I really need to do more research. You think you know so much until you realize you don't.
21:38 benkay honestly it's probably tuning itself for grbble queries, mircea_popescu.
21:38 mircea_popescu it must be.
21:39 mircea_popescu but wait
21:39 mircea_popescu no, it can't. cause it doesn't know what gribble clicks.
21:39 benkay oh come on they can kinda infer that, right?
21:39 mircea_popescu how ?
21:39 mircea_popescu this is the perfect anon model, gribble googling. how would google ever figure it out ?
21:40 benkay hm
21:40 benkay perhaps clustering against gribble searches then, which weights trilema?
21:40 Duffer1 @bitcoinpete https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg5737954#msg5737954
21:40 benkay mad trilema-y searches from gribble.
21:40 mircea_popescu i dunno man.
21:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2249 @ 0.0008887 = 1.9987 BTC [-]
21:41 benkay Hirethestache: for how long are you traveling?
21:41 Hirethestache 8 more days
21:41 benkay ah, what's the rush.
21:42 Hirethestache Bet ends in 7 haha
21:42 mircea_popescu lol
21:42 benkay f'real?
21:42 test123 i see thanks- greater weight equals greater pay out at end if on winning side
21:42 mircea_popescu test123 indeed.
21:42 bitcoinpete Duffer1: beauty
21:42 mircea_popescu it's all explained in the faw.
21:42 mircea_popescu faq*
21:42 bitcoinpete I'll bbl
21:42 Hirethestache ^^hence the reason I'm so adamant about betting ASAP hah
21:42 Duffer1 ^.^
21:43 benkay Hirethestache: 2015?
21:43 mircea_popescu Hirethestache wait, you think the berkshire bet ends in a week or is this some other bet you're talking asbout
21:43 Hirethestache It's not the warren buffet bet
21:43 benkay o
21:43 benkay hey jsbrekla text is not highlightable on bitbet homepage
21:44 mircea_popescu anyway, if you're travelling with no safe addresses and no way to make them you're sol.
21:44 Hirethestache Although I do plan on betting on BRK
21:44 mircea_popescu so for all the kids keeping score at home : always carry some safe addresses when travelling.
21:44 mircea_popescu even if you can't spend out of them
21:44 benkay one never knows when bitcoins are going to shower from the heavens
21:44 benkay Hirethestache: if your bet closes in 7 days just use the CB address. they won't likely go out of business with so little fanfare.
21:45 mircea_popescu nah
21:45 mircea_popescu it'll just get comingled won't it ?
21:45 Hirethestache Yeah, you guys are schooling me on my knowledge, or lack thereof, of proper BTC safety
21:45 benkay welcome to -assets.
21:46 benkay mircea_popescu Hirethestache doesn't CB allocate users a specific receipt address?
21:46 mircea_popescu i have no idea i never used the thing
21:46 benkay mircea_popescu Hirethestache i'm suggesting using the user-specific inbound address.
21:46 Duffer1 they don't make it obvious, but i believe they do, let me check
21:46 Hirethestache I need to go back to BTC school
21:46 benkay this is BTC school Hirethestache
21:46 mircea_popescu what;s a stache anyway
21:46 benkay bitcoinpete.com/2014/irc-yeshiva/ Hirethestache
21:46 benkay moustache
21:47 mircea_popescu too obvious
21:47 mircea_popescu "Being quiet and studious is broadly unknown in a western culture that prizes “views”, “likes” and the inane extraversion required to generate them." no see, that's attacking people's self esteem.
21:50 Duffer1 Hirethestache it appears coinbase keeps track of all addresses generated by your transactions (they appear to use a new address for every deposit/withdrawl) you can view them under Account Settings - Bitcoin Addresses
21:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00088958 = 13.1658 BTC [+]
21:51 Duffer1 hirethestache money sent to any of those addresses in that list will probably be credited to your CB account, but i'm not 100% on that, by trying to dumb it down for the average person they make it way more complicated...
21:53 mircea_popescu i wonder if this is practical for them.
21:53 mircea_popescu if they have 1k customers that make 1k transactions each that's 1mn addresses they have to keep track of
21:53 mircea_popescu doesn't seem toscale too well.
21:53 benkay it's a rails stack, who said anything about scaling?
21:53 mircea_popescu lord have mercy.
21:53 benkay none.
21:54 benkay they're in a tough spot. they're guaranteeing cold storage for customer funds, but also that they can send funds on demand. this requires they commingle, which is anathema.
21:55 mircea_popescu i don't see that it's such anathema.
21:55 mircea_popescu put eggs in basked, watch basket.
21:55 benkay maybe allowing ones funds to be so commingled is anathema.
21:55 benkay maybe trusting others with ones coins.
21:56 benkay specifically, silly-con valley bank.
21:56 benkay that is *definitely* anathema.
21:56 mircea_popescu ya well, i don't personally trust them so i have no use for them on these lines, but in principle what can you do.
21:58 benkay ruby on rails = bitcoin marble pillars
21:58 mircea_popescu seems there's a progression at work, php -> ruby ->
21:58 mircea_popescu sorta like the people involved, 22 -> 25 ->
21:59 benkay oh man php
21:59 benkay subject of php
21:59 benkay client has app and backend they brought my firm on to shephard into app store and reverse-engineer an SDK out of.
21:59 benkay backend in php 'cause what else
22:00 benkay when it comes time to compare hashes, guess what happens.
22:00 mircea_popescu hahaha php-collision ?
22:00 Duffer1 magic?
22:00 benkay (NO SERIOUSLY ARE THESE STRINGS EQUAL)
22:00 mircea_popescu benkay easy way to solve problem : hash precompare.
22:01 mircea_popescu if (md5(a) = md5(b))
22:01 benkay man
22:01 mircea_popescu nono
22:01 mircea_popescu i tell you :D
22:01 hirethestache got my hands on my nexus.
22:02 benkay i don't even php, so i don't know how hard you're trolling right now
22:02 mircea_popescu lol
22:02 benkay wouldn't be surprised if that call was something along the lines of "are these both thingers in memory? great! return true."
22:02 mircea_popescu i don't know how hard im trolling either, tbh, but i figure it should be somewhere between my penis and a brick wall.
22:03 benkay anyways, love these guys. smart fuckers. tough sell on the job is going to be lisp and not haskell for the backend.
22:04 benkay although maybe we'll all learn some haskell and learn something about strongly typed systems.
22:05 benkay mircea_popescu re: hardness http://oglaf.com/habeas-corpus/
22:05 mircea_popescu o ya.
22:08 diametric mircea_popescu: quite the commotion you you started with that bet
22:08 mircea_popescu turns out im good at that.
22:08 diametric i like it, all the anti-mp people were out in full force on reddit
22:08 diametric "the guy that runs bitbet made the bet and he's a scammer!" many lols were had.
22:09 mircea_popescu yeah well, there's people out there claiming that obama is smart and putin good looking
22:09 mircea_popescu why shouldn't i have people that claim im a scammer
22:10 diametric haha
22:11 steven-__ reddit has been in quality free fall for 4-5 years same goes for hn
22:12 mircea_popescu i find it hard to believe reddit ever had any qyality to begin with
22:12 diametric honestly its just a degradation of the signal to noise ratio that happens in any online community that gains popularity with the masses.
22:12 mircea_popescu back when digg still existed reddit was where the furies gathered
22:12 mircea_popescu then conde nast bought it and it became sorta-popular with the majored-in-business crowd i guess
22:16 diametric mircea_popescu: when is your bitcoin conference?
22:16 mircea_popescu later april
22:17 benkay the furies?
22:18 mircea_popescu furries
22:19 benkay ah.
22:19 mircea_popescu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/FurryGamesMidwestFurFest2006GreenReaper.jpg
22:19 mircea_popescu reddit con
22:19 benkay i was seeing mythical things.
22:20 steven-__ i wonder if the pants are just to hide the dick holes you know they have
22:21 diametric i tend not to judge others on harmless stuff, though that shit must be uncomfortable as fuck to wear.
22:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20338 @ 0.00089073 = 18.1157 BTC [+] {2}
22:23 mircea_popescu diametric what's harm to do with anything ? i'd rather take a smoker than someone who watches tv.
22:23 mircea_popescu others are to be judged on aesthetic criteria
22:27 diametric to what end though, i don't really care if people dress up like animals and fuck each other if they want too. I think its weird, but I would not consider myself a better person than they on that alone.
22:27 mircea_popescu but i mean how do you judge another ?
22:28 mircea_popescu what they consider beautiful would seem a major consideration
22:29 asciilifeform i sorta wonder if the animal costumes are an anonymity thing
22:29 diametric a consideration for what? I mean, sure its something I might factor in if its relevant to the situation, but I wouldn't dismiss someone simple because of that.
22:29 mircea_popescu really ?
22:29 diametric I do dismiss people that inflict harm on others, despite whatever else they might have to offer
22:29 mircea_popescu i can't see how i could take seriously someone with poor taste.
22:29 mircea_popescu so they inflict harm, what of it.
22:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it may even be a chicken and egg thing. maybe the pedestrian anonimity thing comes from the suits.
22:31 asciilifeform just the theory, there might be folks who haven't the courage, but different matter when in the wolf suit.
22:31 mircea_popescu diametric i mean what, you can't be friends with a war veteran ?
22:31 diametric its a fetish. some people like feet, some people like anal gaping, some people like making scrambled eggs compromised of equal parts chicken eggs and semen. those guys like dressing up like animals and fucking. I think anonymity is incidental
22:31 asciilifeform (i personally don't know anyone who does this particular thing, so i can only guess)
22:31 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nah it's a lot more diffuse than that. i suspect many of them actually worked in a job that required them to dress as an animal. they do that for parties/disne\yland etc.
22:32 mircea_popescu for whatever reason the thing stuck, because most of these kids are unemployable save for some fantasy enacting
22:32 asciilifeform never knew a pro clown either, perhaps to my detriment
22:32 mircea_popescu ("i'm not really a waitress, i'm just on my way to the newsweek stint")
22:32 diametric mircea_popescu: I see your point, maybe not harm at its basic level. Intent has a lot to do with it.
22:32 mircea_popescu the costumes make the fantasy easier.
22:32 mircea_popescu diametric is this something you've considered systematically or not really ?
22:33 diametric nah its not something i spend a lot of time thinking about.
22:33 mircea_popescu it shows.
22:34 diametric oh i'm sure.
22:34 mircea_popescu fwiw i dun think most furries actually do any fucking
22:34 Mats_cd03 diametric then you will always be vulnerable to those willing to xommit violence
22:34 mircea_popescu in or out of costume.
22:35 diametric i spread myself too thin honestly, i have a wide range of interests but never enough time to fully explore them.
22:35 mircea_popescu i wasn't intimating you're a bad person or anything.
22:36 diametric I didn't take it as such
22:37 mircea_popescu i wonder if the d ever gives out furry prons
22:37 mircea_popescu .d
22:37 ozbot 4.250 billion | Next Diff in 1379 blocks | Estimated Change: 10.1200% in 8d 14h 30m 21s
22:37 mircea_popescu i mean
22:37 mircea_popescu .bait
22:37 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_majfbxqR791qj6d3fo1_1280.jpg
22:37 diametric where does .bait get its porn from?
22:38 Mats_cd03 .bait
22:38 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbqmvg3zz91racc9so1_500.jpg
22:38 diametric I had always assumed it was some personal collection of pictures.
22:38 mircea_popescu must be following some tumblr feed but no diea.
22:39 mircea_popescu the problem with making women go barefoot in town
22:39 mircea_popescu that black shit requires a belt sander to get off
22:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.000893 = 1.2502 BTC [+]
22:40 mircea_popescu neways that's all for me. have fun everyone!
22:47 Duffer1 later man
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23:03 diametric asciilifeform: so that pod i got off ebay works on the logic analyzer
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