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00:04 dub KRS1: +1
00:04 dub the good ship crypto
00:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10065 @ 0.00083348 = 8.389 BTC [+]
00:08 benkay hash pirate
00:08 benkay hasboat
00:08 benkay hash*boat
00:12 dub just #boat
00:12 thestringpuller ;;calc (350 - 320) / 320
00:12 gribble 0.09375
00:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.0010501 = 0.21 BTC [-]
00:25 KRS1 hmm you'd get pulled over too much in the U.S. if you ever come here
00:25 KRS1 I would..I mean "Hash Boat" for real?
00:26 KRS1 Thats like calling a boat "Cocaine"
00:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [-]
00:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.0010501 = 0.21 BTC [-]
00:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 316 @ 0.0010501 = 0.3318 BTC [-]
00:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11324 @ 0.00083327 = 9.4359 BTC [-] {2}
00:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 315 @ 0.00185 = 0.5828 BTC [-] {2}
00:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 585 @ 0.00185001 = 1.0823 BTC [+]
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01:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1304 @ 0.00105 = 1.3692 BTC [-] {4}
01:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7500 @ 0.0001275 = 0.9563 BTC [-]
01:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1759 @ 0.00105 = 1.847 BTC [-]
01:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.0001276 = 0.2552 BTC [+]
01:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3150 @ 0.00105 = 3.3075 BTC [-]
01:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.00186 = 0.1172 BTC [+]
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02:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00082679 = 4.9194 BTC [-]
02:31 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
02:31 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 380.11002, Best ask: 380.22614, Bid-ask spread: 0.11612, Last trade: 380.11002, 24 hour volume: 18810.11241169, 24 hour low: 339.01, 24 hour high: 383.73, 24 hour vwap: 365.36448
02:38 mircea_popescu http://www.france24.com/en/20131111-feel-danger-stay-classy-buy-bulletproof-suit
02:38 ozbot Feel in danger? Stay classy, buy a bulletproof suit - FRANCE 24
02:38 mircea_popescu nanotube ^
02:52 dub the perfect xmas gift for that special cyrptoanarchoterrorist in your life
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03:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 800 @ 0.00105 = 0.84 BTC [-]
03:32 mircea_popescu ;;ident davout
03:32 gribble Nick 'davout', with hostmask 'davout!~chef@unaffiliated/davout', is not identified.
03:35 mircea_popescu ;;ident davout
03:35 gribble Nick 'davout', with hostmask 'davout!~chef@unaffiliated/davout', is identified as user davout, with GPG key id 13288EAB01713428, key fingerprint 291237F37A2C023CADBED52513288EAB01713428, and bitcoin address None
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03:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1809 @ 0.0001276 = 0.2308 BTC [+]
03:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2705 @ 0.0001375 = 0.3719 BTC [+] {2}
04:04 jurov http://thegenesisblock.com/bitcoin-exchange-itbit-announces-launch-5-5m-total-funding/
04:04 ozbot itBit Launches Bitcoin Exchange with $5.5M in Funding - The Genesis Block
04:04 jurov that Rich Teo looks very fuckable
04:05 jurov oh and bitcash.cz exchange was hacked and btcs stolen
04:06 mircea_popescu o wow, they could almost buy 10`000 mpoe shares.
04:07 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/why-you-cant-invest-with-cryptostocks/
04:07 ozbot Why you can’t invest with Cryptostocks pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
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04:46 mircea_popescu anyway, i'm aware of all the overloads you ppl have been causing, and i'm getting a beefier setup for trilema this weekend.
04:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9248 @ 0.00082667 = 7.645 BTC [-] {2}
04:49 jurov Would recommend to add a form to buy credits quickly.
04:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.61029705 = 12.2059 BTC [-] {3}
04:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.60230769 = 7.83 BTC [-] {6}
04:53 BingoBoingo A trilema credit form would make it easier when people get pissed I bumped them into the paywall...
05:02 mircea_popescu yeah.
05:02 mircea_popescu it's being worked on this.
05:06 pankkake clicking on the credits gets you a romanian page, not very helpful too
05:07 mircea_popescu it does ?
05:08 mircea_popescu meh. i updated the message but apparenlty not the page.
05:08 mircea_popescu yeah this is unconscionable, needs a revamp.
05:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 953 @ 0.00105 = 1.0007 BTC [-]
05:12 davout also refreshing the page on the same article eats a credit
05:14 mircea_popescu only if you have one
05:14 davout what ?
05:14 davout also randomly ended up on "The advantages of having a baby"
05:15 davout "Quite often will you hear of partners that abandoned their business to go back to teaching (the rough equivalent of a circus dancer all things considered)" <-- LOL
05:15 mircea_popescu this is to officially notify you that we have received a confirmation advice from the International
05:15 mircea_popescu Monetary Funds External Auditors Committee, World Bank, United Nations Organization
05:15 mircea_popescu and the Federal Reserve Bank of America respectively via International Payment Voucher Number:
05:15 mircea_popescu IMF/FRBWDC/BOA-93WB82UN567-G requesting our bank to direct the HSBC BANK USA N.A, a subsidiary of the Federal Reserve Bank of America
05:15 mircea_popescu I KNEW IT!!!
05:15 mircea_popescu us banks are subsidiaries of the fed!
05:16 mircea_popescu also boa and hsbc are the same thing
05:16 mircea_popescu o how the rpietilla conspiraci unravels!
05:19 dub ;;nethash
05:19 gribble 4599064.97278
05:19 mircea_popescu watch it not break 500 this year.
05:20 jurov as in, watched pot never boils?
05:22 mircea_popescu something like that yeah.
05:22 mircea_popescu .d
05:22 ozbot 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 950 blocks | Estimated Change: 11.8688% in 5d 19h 27m 15s
05:23 davout the cryptostocks thing is priceless
05:24 mircea_popescu yeah, i'm mostly writing these as they happen because in like two centuries they will be worth at least 1 btc each.
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05:49 mircea_popescu "mom, i'm hungry" "hush, i'm coding. you ate yesterday"
05:50 mircea_popescu #WomenInTech
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06:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]
06:52 mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/WeArePrivilege
06:52 mircea_popescu this is so many layers of irony :D
06:56 pankkake and I just learned a new word: shitlord
06:57 mircea_popescu nonsensical fringe basically consists of insulation (otherwise it wouldn't survive).
06:57 mircea_popescu part of this insulation is inventing words all the time. thus shitlord and douchecanoe and fireperson and so on and so forth.
06:58 mircea_popescu the less intelligent people can follow their nonsense, and even better, the less intelligent people can be bothered to follow their nonsense, the better chance of still being around in a year feminists have.
07:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.0008215 = 3.9021 BTC [-]
07:11 mircea_popescu http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mra
07:11 ozbot Urban Dictionary: mra
07:11 mircea_popescu haha this kicks ass.
07:11 mircea_popescu every single definition on the first page is beyond butthurt.
07:11 mircea_popescu sort of shit is enough to make you want to be a mra.
07:17 mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/1f2ul5/youre_not_allowed_to_have_an_opinion_also_female/
07:17 mircea_popescu and with that i'm done with my current review of gender-related-retardation, my sides hurt.
07:18 pankkake oh, tumblr :/ where penetration is rape
07:19 mircea_popescu o it is ?
07:20 ThickAsThieves http://bitcoinmagazine.com/8132/obama-initiative-spawns-identity-based-bitcoin-greenlist/
07:20 ThickAsThieves misleading title
07:20 ozbot Obama Initiative Spawns Identity Based Bitcoin Greenlist – Bitcoin Magazine
07:20 ThickAsThieves remove the word bitcoin
07:20 mircea_popescu and the word magazine
07:20 ThickAsThieves hehe
07:20 mircea_popescu im surprised that thingstill exists
07:21 mircea_popescu did the romanian guy that stole it from buterin and co to "sell" it to bitpay&co not run with it yet ?!
07:21 mircea_popescu seems incredible.
07:21 ThickAsThieves it seems to be more of an outlet for the writers to try and look like they know whats up about stuff
07:21 ThickAsThieves like a journal or sumth
07:21 mircea_popescu that was kinda always the case iirc.
07:21 truffles at least they can write well
07:22 mircea_popescu no but there was this acrimonious split earlier, when vladimir guy got ousted by the coffee gofer.
07:22 ThickAsThieves who's the target audience?
07:22 ThickAsThieves other bloggers?
07:22 mircea_popescu the convention crowd, ideally.
07:22 ThickAsThieves indeed
07:22 mircea_popescu now if the convention crowd only read...
07:23 mircea_popescu maybe this magazine should come as a collection of presentation sheets attachjed to a slinky.
07:23 ThickAsThieves dont forget the plastic bitcoin
07:25 mircea_popescu btw, how about that dragons tale ipo.
07:25 ThickAsThieves so TradeFortress made The Verge
07:25 ThickAsThieves how long before he's arrested?
07:25 mircea_popescu bitcoin is so totally going to 500... all these lolz support it.
07:25 mircea_popescu actually this suggests a bet.
07:25 KRS1 lolz
07:25 Vexual hew wont be arrested
07:26 ThickAsThieves my dentist has heard of bitcoin, "it's all over the news" he says
07:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2385 @ 0.0001375 = 0.3279 BTC [+]
07:28 jurov mircea_popescu:btw you know the same thing as dragontales happened before with fidor bank?
07:29 mircea_popescu 1K4FswVNus5xJZJ6TYqAzWSy3tXBBFdGnM
07:29 jurov lol seems the traffic from trilema took cstocks down :D
07:29 ThickAsThieves and i'm still skeptical on that cointerra one
07:29 jurov We're sorry, but something went wrong.
07:29 mircea_popescu jurov yeah
07:30 mircea_popescu i mean on fidor
07:30 mircea_popescu lol @ exchange
07:30 mircea_popescu and here we go : http://bitbet.us/bet/600/tradefortress-arrested/
07:30 Vexual hes chinese looking and lives in sydney
07:30 ThickAsThieves the webwallet is called Inputs.io (just in case you wanna be specific)
07:31 mircea_popescu what, and miss an opportunity of arguing over badly specified bets ?
07:31 ThickAsThieves heh
07:32 ThickAsThieves ;;nethash
07:32 gribble 4628862.31448
07:32 ThickAsThieves ;;bcstats
07:32 gribble Current Blocks: 269218 | Current Difficulty: 5.109297380161518E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 270143 | Next Difficulty In: 925 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 19 hours, 37 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 578686259.228 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.26142
07:32 ThickAsThieves back on track
07:32 mircea_popescu rev rev rev the miner
07:32 mircea_popescu gently up the graph
07:32 jurov Vexual: you're gonna put up "WANTED: chinese looking, indetifies himself as TF. 10BTC reward" posters over sydney?
07:33 mircea_popescu merrily merrily merrily merrily
07:33 mircea_popescu hash is but a dream.
07:33 mircea_popescu i wonder if anyone realises all the computation that went into the blockchain so far could have probably cured cancer.
07:34 jurov not likely
07:34 Vexual no, id get 100,100 delivered and wouldn't be able to pay and i wouldent want them anyway
07:34 ThickAsThieves well maybe ASICMINER gets into that type of thing one day and we can indirectly claim dogooderhood
07:35 Vexual all of them with their cousins id that doesnt say tradefortress
07:35 mircea_popescu jurov it just depends on what exactly you're calculating :) the advantage of hashing is that the forumulation is simple.
07:35 jurov imho most directly comparable thing is Folding@Home
07:36 jurov it could have progressed 100x faster, not sure it can be done on ASICs
07:36 mircea_popescu yeah, folding is also kind of simple to formulate.
07:36 mircea_popescu not actually as simple as the blockchain, which is why probably not asic-able.
07:37 Vexual perhaps the blockchain will cure cancer
07:38 ThickAsThieves they are sorting out a distributed exchange first
07:38 mircea_popescu i wonder if dogooderhood comes with hoodies and a year's supply of dogfood.
07:38 ThickAsThieves mas importante
07:39 Vexual yes i don't know if sha256 exists in natural life in any form
07:42 Vexual perhaps watching the chain grow will present some eureka moment where we find that life on earth is just a currency invesnted by some cosmic satioshi eons before
07:43 truffles so profound
07:47 jurov Vexual maybe if you'll upload yourself into a blockchain and get used as a currency
07:47 jurov until someone sends you to 1BitcoinEater
07:49 davout Vexual: lol
07:50 BingoBoingo Vanitygening 1BitcoinEater is probably the Bitcoin equivalent of folding at home
07:51 Vexual pointless?
07:52 BingoBoingo Vexual: Inefficient.
07:52 thestringpuller ;;seen smickles
07:52 gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 18 hours, 41 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <smickles> $avg
07:54 mircea_popescu incidentally, since it's a topic. i've not much followed it, but i know folding@home has been going for a few years
07:54 mircea_popescu has any sort of useful science whatsoever come from it so far ?
07:55 Vexual they should give shares on future patents, and watch the computing power go up
07:55 Vexual good question
07:57 Vexual and how does one know theyre not folding airbourne aids?
07:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.595 = 1.19 BTC [-]
07:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.60999999 = 6.1 BTC [+] {4}
08:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.61 = 2.44 BTC [+]
08:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69358300 BTC to 1`387`166 shares, 50 satoshi per share
08:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.00563965 = 0.423 BTC [-] {6}
08:02 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Not that I'm aware of yet. From what I understand folding proteins is sort of the raw brute force work that happens many steps before useful science. Kind of like guessing nonces... Maybe mining is a decent comparison.
08:02 mircea_popescu sooo, six weeks in, obama's thing has managed 50k signups
08:03 mircea_popescu with such a great launch they should be ipoing that shit
08:03 ThickAsThieves sabotaged by insider tea partiers ofc
08:03 Vexual privitise!
08:03 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the kulaks, yeah.
08:03 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo yeah, many steps before, but still... eventually we gotta see somerthing i guess
08:05 benkay brute forcing reality fails on the grounds that reality moves way fucking fast and has for a long time
08:05 benkay but the incentivized humans may have pulled a trick or two while the nerds were stroking
08:06 benkay http://homes.cs.washington.edu/~zoran/NSMBfoldit-2011.pdf
08:06 benkay http://www.pnas.org/content/108/47/18949.long
08:06 ozbot Algorithm discovery by protein folding game players
08:07 BingoBoingo benkay: Your second link looks promising, aspies as ASICs
08:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.0008215 = 1.8484 BTC [-]
08:08 Vexual http://patents.justia.com/assignee/the-board-of-trustees-of-the-leland-stanford-junior-university
08:08 ozbot Patents by Assignee The Board of Trustees of the
08:09 benkay let's go track down an aspie
08:09 BingoBoingo I hear there are quite a few in -otc and -dev
08:14 Vexual those molecular biology patents stack up when you have a free supercomputer
08:17 Vexual The Government has certain rights in this invention. Support was also provided under NSF award MRI-R2 “Acquisition of a Hybrid CPU/GPU and Visualization Cluster for Multidisciplinary Studies in Transport Physics with Uncertainty Quantification.”
08:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.585 BTC [-]
08:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.0056001 = 0.4088 BTC [-]
08:25 benkay http://patents.justia.com/patent/8569941
08:25 ozbot Diamondoid monolayers as electron emitters Patent
08:25 benkay monochromatic electrons! neat!
08:26 Vexual i wonder if thats in the new laser canon?
08:27 benkay http://patents.justia.com/patent/20130276877
08:27 ozbot Composition and Method For Upconversion of Light
08:28 benkay one might munge that into a rectenna
08:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.04799999 = 0.144 BTC [+]
08:38 Vexual that diamondoid patent is funny, apparently the navy is interested in making flat panel tvs
08:38 benkay wait Vexual are you sober!?
08:41 Vexual id think those new 4k panels will put out a bit of heat
08:43 Vexual HDMI1, HDMI2, SHOOTDRONE
08:51 Vexual i guess it would cure cancer if you stood in front of it
08:59 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/obama-getting-crushed-in-the-marketplace/
08:59 ozbot Obama, getting crushed in the marketplace pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
09:02 nubbins` 3do!
09:02 nubbins` now there's a name from the past
09:03 mircea_popescu innit.
09:05 nubbins` i think goldstar, which ended up being swallowed up into the G of LG, made a 3do system at one point
09:05 mircea_popescu iirc it was panasonic
09:06 mircea_popescu ex mistuSHITa
09:06 nubbins` yeah, i believe panasonic licensed the technology
09:06 nubbins` afaik goldstar was the only other company to actually take up the offer
09:07 nubbins` yeah! http://www.thestrong.org/online-collections/images/Z005/Z00573/Z0057388.jpg
09:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.33286138 BTC [-]
09:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.04835 = 0.1451 BTC [+]
09:12 mircea_popescu o hey, wd.
09:13 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyMRy_Xv0sY <from folding at home
09:13 ozbot [Lasers] US Navy/DoE 'free electron laser' weapon system destroying a helicopter and missiles - YouT
09:13 mircea_popescu Vexual what's the connction to folding@home ?!
09:15 Vexual the patenet from stanford where pando labvs is, they would have modeled many electron configs on a system such as that
09:15 mircea_popescu i thought folding mostly has to do with protein configurations
09:16 Vexual the navy and the doe are on the patent, but it mainly mentions flat panel tvs as an application, no actual mention of fel
09:16 Vexual it does any shemistry you want
09:16 benkay as opposed to hemistry
09:17 benkay privilege physics
09:17 mircea_popescu lol
09:17 nubbins` check your physics!
09:18 mircea_popescu unchecked physiques result in nightmare fuel.
09:20 Vexual they might have used their own gpus
09:22 pankkake https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/11/bizarre_online.html gambling is now terrorism!
09:22 ozbot Schneier on Security: Bizarre Online Gambling Movie-Plot Threat
09:22 Vexual or a blackboard
09:24 mircea_popescu scheier totally doesn't work for the usg.
09:25 mircea_popescu also for the record, the 9/11 "operation" cost something like 20k if memory serves.
09:25 mircea_popescu even accounting for the 300% obamainflation, that's still a small enough sum that it can be obtained by selling a couipla cars.
09:25 benkay and totally distracted baby me from the argentinean crises
09:25 benkay crisis*
09:26 benkay http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/11/craig-cobb-white-supremacist-black_n_4256360.html?utm_hp_ref=tw
09:26 ozbot Video Of White Supremacist Learning He Is 14 Percent Black May Be The Best Thing Ever
09:27 mircea_popescu i'll give 2:! odds the guy doesn't care.
09:28 benkay the cackling fat black woman is my favorite part of the video
09:30 pankkake doing a terrorist attack is incredibly cheap and easy
09:30 pankkake sometimes the stupidity around it makes me want to demonstrate
09:30 pankkake but then I'll end up in prison even with no actual damage done
09:31 Vexual The author states that a nanocrystalline material is essentially a new type of diamond film whose properties are largely determined by the bonding of the carbons within grain boundaries.
09:32 benkay dat graphene
09:32 benkay magic shit
09:33 nubbins` lel, just got off the phone with a supplier
09:33 nubbins` "hey, you were trying to set up a wholesale acct with us?"
09:33 nubbins` no idea who they are or what they sell
09:33 nubbins` somehow they have all our info
09:34 nubbins` "ok well i guess someone wanted the account, go ahead and set us up"
09:34 nubbins` totally not related to the work we do at all, but w/e
09:35 nubbins` after hanging up and checking out their website, i realize they sell this obscure ink remover we've been trying to track down for weeks
09:35 Vexual u migth have elves
09:36 mircea_popescu or slavegirls.
09:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.0010501 = 0.2625 BTC [+]
09:41 davout pankkake: let's discuss a couple targets, i needed a new door anyway
09:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 865 @ 0.00012825 = 0.1109 BTC [-]
09:54 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214589.msg3545847#msg3545847
09:54 ozbot [WTB/WTS] Casascius Holo Error / Collectible Marketplace
09:54 nubbins` now that's a collection
10:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1500 @ 0.00012825 = 0.1924 BTC [-]
10:03 bitesak trilema.com seems down...
10:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 110 @ 0.0010501 = 0.1155 BTC [+]
10:06 mircea_popescu it's been having trouble keeping up.
10:07 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2013#377125
10:07 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
10:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 101 @ 0.0010501 = 0.1061 BTC [+]
10:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 194 @ 0.0010501 = 0.2037 BTC [+] {2}
10:22 bitesak too popular articles ! what on earth is happening here
10:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.58268338 = 3.4961 BTC [-] {4}
10:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00559 = 0.1342 BTC [-] {3}
10:35 mircea_popescu http://updatednews.ca/2013/11/07/u-s-authorities-arrests-man-for-selling-guns-online-for-bitcoins/
10:35 ozbot U.S. authorities arrests man for selling guns online for Bitcoins - Updated News
10:36 mircea_popescu bitesak anyway, for now the solution is to try again in a few minutes siort of thing
10:36 nubbins` that headline is misleading
10:36 nubbins` they arrested him for selling guns online, full stop
10:39 mircea_popescu myeah
10:39 benkay next up: disposable plastic firearms
10:40 benkay ;;ticker --market bitstamp
10:40 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 350.0, Best ask: 350.5, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 350.5, 24 hour volume: 20610.25241994, 24 hour low: 323.78, 24 hour high: 357.0, 24 hour vwap: 345.151004566
10:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2047 @ 0.0010501 = 2.1496 BTC [+]
10:44 nubbins` http://imgur.com/UmX1evu
10:44 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
10:44 nubbins` ^ there's been a lot of this happening around the house lately
10:54 pankkake just got my friedcat shirt!
10:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 312 @ 0.00198998 = 0.6209 BTC [+] {2}
10:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 291 @ 0.00209898 = 0.6108 BTC [+]
10:57 mircea_popescu wd!
10:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7393 @ 0.00012825 = 0.9482 BTC [-]
11:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 569 @ 0.00209898 = 1.1943 BTC [+] {2}
11:03 pankkake what kind of things could one use to measure inflation? there's the obvious gold, but I'm looking for other things, like pizzas, oil…?
11:03 pankkake to be clearer, I'm looking for things with price feeds
11:03 mircea_popescu the only way this was ever done was a composite basket sort of thing.
11:05 mircea_popescu say something like 10% oil 5% gold 15% pork bellies 20% grain 20% average housing costs 30% minimum wage
11:05 pankkake yeah, I know those ones, but first of all the ratio is usually pullet out of someone's ass
11:06 pankkake and I'm looking for something sexy like "how many pizzas is a bitcoin over time"
11:06 pankkake gold is the easy one, perhaps oil too
11:06 mircea_popescu thats what i'm saying, there's not been a better solution than pull a basket out of ass
11:06 mircea_popescu and tjere's no such thing as "a pizza"
11:07 pankkake oooh just remembered http://www.pintprice.com/
11:10 nubbins` bic mac index
11:10 nubbins` *big
11:10 pankkake good one too
11:10 pankkake it's simple enough
11:11 pankkake though they probably update it only once a year
11:11 nubbins` alcohol is generally subject to varying levels of taxation from country to country, so it doesn't make as good a barometer
11:12 pankkake indeed, and that taxation vary from year to year (one of our government's genius idea was raising the beer tax - yes there is a tax specifically on beer)
11:13 nubbins` oil isn't useful as a measure of anything aside from OPEC's influence
11:13 pankkake many political events can affect it
11:14 pankkake and gold, well. though I can use price feeds from people who trade physical gold, it follows the rest
11:15 nubbins` what this boils down to is that the aforementioned basket, for all its flaws, is still the best solution
11:16 mircea_popescu inflation is not really a solved problem
11:16 mircea_popescu which is why things like bitcoin are economically useful.
11:16 mircea_popescu or w/e, "which is a way to explain the economical usefulness of things like bitcoin in classical terms"
11:17 pankkake I'd like to have some sort of long term graph, in the sense that having bitcoin go up in value while the currencies it is tracked against lose value by themselves, is not that useful
11:18 mircea_popescu fiat loss of value is a tiny fraction of bitcoin increase.
11:18 pankkake no doubt :)
11:18 mircea_popescu it went up 1000% since 9 months ago
11:18 mircea_popescu in this sense fiat inflation is a rounding error, you'll never measure it.
11:19 mircea_popescu as bitcoin settles closer to something like 1mn us whatevers, then fiat inflation will be more visible.
11:20 pankkake I have a feeling fiat inflation is going to explode sooner or later
11:20 pankkake but herhaps it will be a slow painful process
11:20 mircea_popescu only in selected countries.
11:21 thestringpuller fiat inflation is irrelevant
11:22 thestringpuller to bitcoin, because if/when it goes out of control, there will be a different unit of account btc
11:23 thestringpuller like gold bars or something
11:23 jurov pizzaz
11:23 jurov and since when was bitcoin under control?
11:24 thestringpuller i was talking about inflation with that pronoun it
11:24 thestringpuller if inflation goes out of control it won't be seen in bitcoin accurately because people will stop using fiat as a unit of account
11:24 jurov oh ic
11:26 pankkake then I could switch my system to track it directly in BTC
11:26 jurov i think it will end up more like in argentina, official rates faster and faster divorced from actual market ones
11:26 jurov only that in ar it didn't end yet
11:27 mircea_popescu jurov i suspect the us will fail like argentina, yeah.
11:27 mircea_popescu shortages, "bail-ins", etc.
11:28 thestringpuller what is a "bail in"?
11:29 mircea_popescu theft, basically.
11:29 pankkake I've read parts of http://ferfal.blogspot.com/ - scary
11:29 thestringpuller like boiler room style?
11:30 mircea_popescu like you know what a bailout is ?
11:30 thestringpuller a bailout is when someone gives someone else a bunch of money to save their ass
11:30 thestringpuller what is the inverse of that?
11:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10255 @ 0.00081695 = 8.3778 BTC [-]
11:30 mircea_popescu a bailout is when a government spends from the tax chest to save a failed business.
11:31 mircea_popescu a bailin is when a government confiscates third parties funds to save a failed business.
11:31 mircea_popescu so. chryser is bankrupt. bailout : govt gives them 10bn in govt backed credit. bailin : govt orders anyone who ever bought a chrysler car to pay 1k to chruysler.
11:32 thestringpuller ah
11:32 thestringpuller thank you
11:32 pankkake cyprus was a bail in
11:32 mircea_popescu yeah.
11:33 mircea_popescu argentina does the same about every 15 years.
11:33 mircea_popescu amusingly enough, people STILL put money in their banks.
11:38 thestringpuller maybe they're banks don't ask many questions?
11:38 thestringpuller their*
11:39 mircea_popescu that's a point.
11:45 benkay also argentinians expect it at this point
11:46 benkay keep their money in cars and land
11:46 benkay hilariously - cars are a better store of value in argentina than pesos
11:48 pankkake I'm surprised by how fast cars supposedly drop value
11:50 pankkake in France we have some sort of accepted price fixing
11:52 benkay it's just for new cars, the immediate depreciation. there's some psychological value to
11:52 benkay a new car, apparently.
11:53 Apocalyptic pankkake, you mean the ARGUS thing ?
11:53 pankkake yes
11:53 pankkake I've seen more problems with new cars than with older ones :p. at least you know the older one has eliminated the bigger defects
11:55 Apocalyptic I've seen it used by car companies for promotional buybacks, otherwise I don't know how thoroughly it's followed
11:55 pankkake perhaps. I never owned a car
11:56 pankkake no I don't pay much attention ;)
11:59 davout just don't buy the driving school cars
12:00 pankkake ahah. I wonder what's their life expectancy
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 1605 @ 0.00022102 = 0.3547 BTC [-] {3}
12:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5245 @ 0.00081695 = 4.2849 BTC [-]
12:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 640 @ 0.00022101 = 0.1414 BTC [-] {2}
12:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 4017 @ 0.00105 = 4.2179 BTC [-] {4}
12:11 pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331952.0 this is going to be fun
12:11 ozbot [ANN] Crypto-Trade now allowing users to create their own securities
12:12 mircea_popescu "- The system is similar to BTCT and Litecoin Global, so security owners from there should feel at home!"
12:12 pankkake if by home you mean begging on the streets
12:13 mircea_popescu originally i thought it's cryptostocks
12:13 mircea_popescu but apparently this is a different thing
12:13 mircea_popescu (for some values of "different")
12:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00209899 = 0.2057 BTC [+]
12:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6255 @ 0.00081223 = 5.0805 BTC [-]
12:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1631 @ 0.00209899 = 3.4235 BTC [+]
12:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 139 @ 0.00209998 = 0.2919 BTC [+]
12:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002397 = 0.2397 BTC [+] {2}
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12:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00013748 = 0.1375 BTC [-]
12:50 jurov ;;rate wao-ender 2 "few transactions went well, also a longtime trustworthy manager of hackerspace"
12:50 gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
12:50 jurov ;;rate wao 2 "few transactions went well, also a longtime trustworthy manager of hackerspace"
12:50 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user wao has been recorded.
12:52 abrabtc it's interesting that the asks for smg passthrough on havelock are lower than the bids for s.mg on mpex. must say something about the value of holding assets on havelock vs. mpex.
12:53 wao-ender \o/
12:53 jurov it says something about havelock withdrawal/transfer fees
12:53 pankkake it used to be the opposite
12:58 kakobrekla low vol, lots of noise
12:59 abrabtc hardly seems worth TaT's time
13:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1286 @ 0.00012367 = 0.159 BTC [+] {4}
13:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MG] 1286 @ 0.00013 = 0.1672 BTC [-]
13:06 abrabtc hehe
13:06 abrabtc there we go. nice arbitrage.
13:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 543 @ 0.00105 = 0.5702 BTC [-] {2}
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13:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.04835 = 0.1934 BTC [+]
13:36 ryanmckenzie Good afternoon, I am doing an article on bitcoin millionaires and the potential to become wealthy of bitcoin in the future. Would anyone like to talk to me?
13:39 jurov ryanmckenzie: article for ?
13:39 jurov which outlet, i mean
13:40 ryanmckenzie my university magazine
13:40 ryanmckenzie Edinburgh University
13:42 jurov ;;seen nefario
13:42 gribble nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 6 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 42 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
13:43 jurov i'm afraid all such persons are long gone
13:45 pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.0
13:45 ozbot Bitcoin TOP-500 Richest
13:46 mircea_popescu ryanmckenzie go ahead.
13:47 Uglux lol
13:48 mircea_popescu fun fact : edinburgh university has produced more scholarship than the entirety of the united states.
13:49 Uglux they must be good at something...
13:51 mircea_popescu kinda funny how naive as to how irc works the general population finds itself.
13:51 mircea_popescu considering irc is certainly older than blogs.
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14:16 onnabus be sure to go check out #labcoin for a "how to lose everything in bitcoinland" comparo
14:19 onnabus ;;ticker
14:19 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 375.22, Best ask: 377.21498, Bid-ask spread: 1.99498, Last trade: 375.02508, 24 hour volume: 21866.77628925, 24 hour low: 356.81276, 24 hour high: 391.52574, 24 hour vwap: 375.97164
14:19 onnabus ;;market sell 10000
14:19 gribble A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 3370956.9345 USD and would take the last price down to 303.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 337.0957 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
14:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.04849999 = 0.1455 BTC [+]
14:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2683 @ 0.00081734 = 2.1929 BTC [+]
14:27 lewicki ;;market sell 21000000
14:27 gribble This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would sell 17929499 bitcoins, for a total of 21345204.3940 USD and take the price to 0. | Data vintage: 0.0110 seconds
14:28 lewicki ;;market sell 12000000
14:28 gribble A market order to sell 12000000 bitcoins right now would net 21345145.0990 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 1.7788 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 24.7396 seconds
14:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 282 @ 0.00106546 = 0.3005 BTC [+] {2}
14:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.32999889 BTC [-]
14:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 504 @ 0.00106918 = 0.5389 BTC [+] {2}
14:31 haribobob http://colorcoin.org/
14:31 ozbot Color Coin
14:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.30100401 BTC [-]
14:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.002396 = 0.1318 BTC [-]
14:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1435 BTC [+]
14:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.33281029 BTC [+]
14:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
15:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.04835 = 0.2418 BTC [-]
15:08 kakobrekla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tlUvb26DzI
15:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 12 @ 0.04603333 = 0.5524 BTC [-] {2}
15:10 abrabtc heh "There are more and more stupids coming into this business"
15:10 abrabtc well said.
15:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 115 @ 0.0010501 = 0.1208 BTC [-]
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16:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002396 = 0.2396 BTC [-]
16:09 ThickAsThieves XBOND No-Penalty Buyback Offer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265287.msg3562607#msg3562607
16:13 nubbins` man, this is the THIRD fucking time i've received an email from coingig saying that i've got an order
16:14 nubbins` and the third time i've logged into their piece of shit website and deleted all the products from my "selling" page
16:14 nubbins` idiots
16:20 jimmybob does anyone know a good documentry on the potential collapse of the usd?
16:21 nubbins` does anyone know of a cookbook with recipes for making shit taste really good?
16:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6901 @ 0.00081291 = 5.6099 BTC [-]
16:23 nubbins` or, put another way, good luck :D
16:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.0056001 = 0.588 BTC [-]
16:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 16 @ 0.044 = 0.704 BTC [-]
16:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00081229 = 7.5949 BTC [-] {2}
16:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1200 @ 0.00106928 = 1.2831 BTC [-] {2}
16:54 benkay ;;later tell jimmybob http://www.amazon.com/Reinventing-Collapse-Experience-American-Prospects/dp/0865716854
16:54 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:54 benkay ;;later tell jimmybob that'd be the thing. not a documentary per se but better - a book.
16:54 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:54 benkay ;;later tell nubbins` http://www.amazon.com/Reinventing-Collapse-Experience-American-Prospects/dp/0865716854 that'd be the thing. not a documentary per se but better - a book.
16:54 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49817 @ 0.00081619 = 40.6601 BTC [+] {4}
17:02 benkay dag
17:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 488 @ 0.00105016 = 0.5125 BTC [-] {3}
17:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3011 @ 0.00104864 = 3.1575 BTC [-] {7}
17:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 477 @ 0.00104521 = 0.4986 BTC [-] {4}
17:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 130 @ 0.001046 = 0.136 BTC [+]
17:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 110 @ 0.00104602 = 0.1151 BTC [+] {2}
17:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 7113 @ 0.001046 = 7.4402 BTC [-] {2}
17:18 dub I fucking hate IT people
17:18 benkay LET 'ER RIP
17:19 benkay what'd they do today, dub?
17:19 dub I'm sure there is some kind of IQ bar you need to limbo under to become an IT manager
17:19 dub they are trying to excalate their complete lack of understanding as my problem
17:21 benkay that's what the whole barracuda ipo is about
17:21 benkay "i don't derp computers but i saw ads in airport the other day and WE NEED THIS"
17:21 dub its an problem endemic in the enterprise space, companies seem to expect a guy that install windows all day to magically understand BGP
17:24 dub don't recall specifics but I've had a look at some barracuda IP and my impression was 'run away'
17:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.33277759 BTC [-]
17:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.0010665 = 0.5333 BTC [+]
17:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 5503 @ 0.00104508 = 5.7511 BTC [-] {13}
17:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 207 @ 0.00104004 = 0.2153 BTC [-] {2}
17:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 199 @ 0.00103016 = 0.205 BTC [-] {2}
17:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4200 @ 0.00013746 = 0.5773 BTC [-]
17:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.12000909 = 1.3201 BTC [-] {2}
17:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00560016 = 0.56 BTC [+] {3}
17:59 dub this chinese nigga keeps calling me nigger
18:01 dub vendor sent some RnD guys over to help with some lab shit, dudes have almost no english
18:02 pankkake or so you think
18:02 pankkake he's a spy
18:06 benkay it's a tlap
18:08 dub lol
18:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1056 @ 0.00103091 = 1.0886 BTC [-] {2}
18:13 dub I mean ROR
18:18 pankkake :D
18:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 904 @ 0.00102561 = 0.9272 BTC [-] {5}
18:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.11611666 = 0.3483 BTC [-] {3}
18:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 14 @ 0.08411428 = 1.1776 BTC [-] {3}
18:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.1434 = 0.717 BTC [+]
18:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 72 @ 0.58164719 = 41.8786 BTC [-] {18}
18:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.52087863 = 7.2923 BTC [-] {8}
18:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.295 BTC [-]
18:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59999 BTC [+]
18:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 311 @ 0.00556074 = 1.7294 BTC [-] {9}
18:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 178 @ 0.0055 = 0.979 BTC [-] {4}
18:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 404 @ 0.00540019 = 2.1817 BTC [-] {10}
18:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00013745 = 0.1375 BTC [-] {2}
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19:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 837 @ 0.001021 = 0.8546 BTC [-]
19:12 dexX7 kakobrekla: did you already receive your ips monitor? how is it compared to "some quality brand"?
19:15 kakobrekla not yet, i think its gonna take a while.
19:16 thestringpuller indoor positioning system?????
19:17 dexX7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid-crystal_display#In-plane_switching_.28IPS.29 :)
19:17 ozbot Liquid-crystal display - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
19:20 kakobrekla not sure if i should get 2 or 3.
19:20 pankkake are those >1080p?
19:20 dexX7 1440p imho
19:20 dexX7 i don't have the links
19:21 kakobrekla 2560x1440
19:21 dexX7 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Achieva-Shimian-QH2700-IPSMS-Edge-Eco-27-LED-2560x1440-AH-IPS-DVI-PC-Monitor/131033629039?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D2660874548052918995%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D251378161222%26
19:21 ozbot Achieva Shimian QH2700 Ipsms Edge Eco 27" LED 2560x1440 AH IPS DVI PC Monitor | eBay
19:21 pankkake I want a 2560x1600 ideally… I crave vertical resolution :)
19:21 pankkake but those are rare
19:21 asciilifeform pankkake: for vertical resolution, nothing beats 90 degree rotation.
19:22 pankkake yeah, that's what I did at work. two 1080p rotated
19:22 pankkake always intrigued people
19:22 dexX7 :D
19:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00082095 = 6.5676 BTC [+]
19:44 FUDdealer i'm selling high impact fud. /query.. if you are satisfied with my proposal, you pay
19:45 asciilifeform http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/lavabit-critique/
19:45 ozbot Moxie Marlinspike >> Blog >> A Critique Of Lavabit
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20:10 BingoBoingo I think I might have to give up on creating a GPG keypair with the Mac SE/30
20:11 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: slow?
20:12 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Key generation is still continuing. Either the entropy is really good or it is relying too much on virtual memory to try to accomplish this which... I think defeats the purpose if there are going to be a bunch of hard drive writes of the process.
20:12 asciilifeform chances are, it's waiting for keystroke entropy.
20:13 asciilifeform what's the os on that box?
20:13 BingoBoingo NetBSD the 68k version
20:14 BingoBoingo It might take up more room, but I'm considering giving one of these a go http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUN-Ultra-80-Server-Quad-450MHz-4GB-Memory-73GB-HD-/111200002029?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&hash=item19e4095fed
20:14 asciilifeform run strace on the process, if it is blocked, and see where.
20:15 BingoBoingo Thanks, I'll give it a try before looking into giving up on making an late 80's machine relevant again.
20:15 Vexual you go girl!
20:16 BingoBoingo I'll also try mashing the keyboard to generate some entropy
20:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 900 @ 0.00013745 = 0.1237 BTC [-]
20:16 Vexual does it have a mouses?
20:17 BingoBoingo Vexual: It's a Macintosh. Of course it has a mouse. This is the machine in question https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_SE/30
20:18 Vexual i just wanted to say mouses
20:18 asciilifeform dollars to doughnuts, it's blocking on entropy milking
20:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.293 BTC [-]
20:21 Vexual http://vimeo.com/15351476
20:21 ozbot Hold Fast on Vimeo
20:21 BingoBoingo Fuck it, I'm just going to hit the off switch and read up on A/UX and see if there might be any way to build GPG on there.
20:22 BingoBoingo That would probably also keep it more true to the "Vintage" theme
20:23 Vexual sell it to a hipster and get a decent machine
20:24 nubbins` ^ this, hipsters buy things
20:25 BingoBoingo Vexual: The thing is there aren't many machines available that use so little bench space while not being x86 or ARM.
20:25 Vexual yeah its a good choice
20:25 asciilifeform entropy generation is the inevitable bottleneck here.
20:26 Vexual shake the fucker
20:26 kakobrekla why not x86 or arm again?
20:26 nubbins` too commonplace to trust, i guess
20:26 dub jesus an SE30
20:26 Vexual coz paranoia
20:26 dub what the fuck are you smoking
20:26 nubbins` i wonder could like a game boy or nintendo DS or something generate gpg keys
20:27 Vexual put your floppy in and out a few times
20:27 nubbins` Vexual: that's what the lady said to the sailor
20:27 asciilifeform none of this helps unless the system is actually programmed to gather entropy from said manipulations.
20:27 nubbins` hm, ^
20:28 BingoBoingo dub: Newports are what's being smoked.
20:28 Vexual gather entropy from hipster jealousy
20:28 dub smoking kills
20:28 nubbins` http://www.dslinux.org/
20:28 ozbot DSLinux - Linux for the Nintendo DS
20:28 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It seems like I might have to see if I can find the script that generates entropy from hookers and microphones from the trilema comments.
20:29 nubbins` hipster jealousy is too uniform to be a good source of entropy
20:29 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: random bits aren't hard to come by, but consumer hardware never included a ready means for doing so
20:29 asciilifeform (until fairly recently, and we all know the story there)
20:30 nubbins` ;;echo ^
20:30 gribble ^
20:30 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: So it seems. I actually feel lucky this dinosaur includes a co processor for floating point math.
20:31 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you don't need FP for gpg.
20:31 Vexual youre right nubbins' im thinking of enthalpy
20:32 nubbins` heh
20:32 nubbins` and i just learned a new word
20:32 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I know, but the FPU helps when doing maths. One thing the SE/30 did well was run python.
20:33 asciilifeform some maths, somewhere, but not gpg (or rsa in general)
20:33 BingoBoingo Yeah, that is all huge int's
20:34 BingoBoingo Vexual: If you want to do an imaging this is a thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumoencephalography
20:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48150 @ 0.00082118 = 39.5398 BTC [+] {3}
20:35 thestringpuller ;;echo the poop lives
20:35 gribble the poop lives
20:35 asciilifeform (cardano is perfectly happy with no FPU.)
20:39 Vexual you gonna hack a scanner with an xray tube and hook it up to your old mac?
20:39 Vexual totaly harsh bro
20:39 BingoBoingo Well, I mean I've been using the SE/30 for non-crypto maths as well.
20:40 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: why?
20:40 BingoBoingo Vexual: Oh the X-ray was the least harsh part of pneumoencephelopathy. Consider the root words. Where is air going?
20:41 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Mostly python scripts for modeling various things. Not usually useful things, but more as a self improvement thing.
20:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00081581 = 4.4462 BTC [-]
20:42 asciilifeform to develop the virtue of... patience?
20:44 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Patience is a part of it.
20:45 asciilifeform old hardware can be a joy; learn 68k asm, write something nice & clean. but python?
20:46 nubbins` okay, so the poor sap who tried to buy one of my casascius coins at below face value on coingig sent me a "how do i know this isn't a scam?!" message
20:46 nubbins` i politely informed him that the listing was removed 3 months ago and coingig keeps resurrecting it against my wishes
20:46 nubbins` i then sent coingig a scathing email
20:46 nubbins` so scathing, in fact, that my account doesn't exist anymore
20:47 nubbins` AMAZING MARKETPLACE
20:47 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The thing is python makes it easy to write something. The joy though comes from !import (your bit of 68k asm) and gradually removing the python.
20:50 dub wtf is a coingig
20:51 BingoBoingo In other news apparently p=0.05 is no longer good enough http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/11/is-it-time-to-up-the-statistical-standard-for-scientific-results/
20:51 nubbins` dub, it's like bitmit but even more of a piece of shit
20:52 nubbins` because you can't even set the price of your items in btc
20:55 Vexual statistical analysis of statitstical analysis. yay science
20:56 nubbins` i got my lowest non-fail mark in statistics, 56%
20:56 Vexual doesnt count
20:56 nubbins` neither did my positive attitude
20:56 Vexual how can you tell? you alm,ost failed stats!
20:58 nubbins` i used a z table, duh
20:58 nubbins` (that's a thing, right?)
20:58 Vexual yeah, that works
20:59 nubbins` heh
20:59 nubbins` anyway, turns out you can get a degree in mathematics without having done more than a single stats course
21:00 Vexual blindly accepting whatver your stats software says is the accepted model
21:00 BingoBoingo nubbins`: That is because mathematics and statistics are different things, I've been told... At least by the mathematicians.
21:00 nubbins` very true
21:00 mircea_popescu ya!
21:01 nubbins` there were three majors that fell under the umbrella of the math dept: pure math, applied math, and stats
21:01 nubbins` in my infinite wisdom, i decided that pure math would provide me with the best job prospects
21:01 mircea_popescu hahaha
21:02 nubbins` i was chagringed to learn that the rest of the world takes "1+1=2" as an axiom
21:03 nubbins` (and mildly displeased that it took four hours of lectures to prove it!)
21:03 dub and now you're a professional artist
21:03 asciilifeform nubbins`: took russel&whitehead a meter of bookcase to prove.
21:04 mircea_popescu lol dub hasi t.
21:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00081581 = 4.4054 BTC [-]
21:04 nubbins` indeed he does!
21:04 nubbins` there might be a moral in there somewhere
21:04 mircea_popescu i have no idea how this guy can simultaneously believe in global warming but also understand subtle points about math and art.
21:04 nubbins` asciilifeform: we had the benefit of history, we were able to gloss over some of the lead-up
21:05 mircea_popescu i think he may be a professional troll.
21:05 nubbins` professionals get paid ;)
21:05 Vexual :)
21:05 dub technically the internet is for trolling and I get paid to internet
21:05 mircea_popescu professionals do a good job, whether for pay or pro bono
21:05 nubbins` oh, fair enough
21:06 Vexual are you double pro then mp?
21:06 Vexual oh wait, i thought pro bono was something else
21:06 nubbins` although on that tack, i'm a professional printer, not a professional artist ;)
21:06 assbot Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1459137/plain/)
21:06 mircea_popescu !b 6
21:07 mircea_popescu kakobrekla mostly for the "pro bono" thing :D
21:08 mircea_popescu so i could write an article tit-led "normative heterosexuality for women, a guide" or else an article about good and bad uses of irc chans.
21:08 mircea_popescu which would the crowd prefer to see first ?
21:08 dub women are not hetero
21:08 Vexual id like to read something about cake, whichever that fits ionto better
21:09 Vexual or dragons
21:09 nubbins` given that i'm really just here to mess with the signal-to-noise ratio, i'd like to see the latter
21:09 mircea_popescu aite.
21:09 mircea_popescu dub you are mistaken. it's not that women aren't hetero, it's that women eating out women is quite hetero.
21:10 dub I thought about that possiblity as I typed
21:10 mircea_popescu this is how the internet ends up broken
21:10 mircea_popescu dubs think about the possibility as they rm -rf *internet
21:11 nubbins` "Are you sure you want to send 'the internet' to the Recycle Bin?"
21:13 mircea_popescu by the way, what's the ":3" emoticon mean ?
21:14 nubbins` cat face
21:14 mircea_popescu is it "my face is assshaped" or "my tongue is coming out directly of my eyes" ?
21:14 Vexual Flambé Failure, mostache inverted
21:14 mircea_popescu nubbins` like :} ? crooked smile ?
21:14 nubbins` no, it's seriously the face of a cat
21:14 mircea_popescu well presumably a 23 yo human typed it.
21:15 mircea_popescu you saying rather than a young woman it's really a very old pussy ?
21:15 nubbins` divide that number in half
21:15 Vexual sacré bleu!
21:15 nubbins` old pussies can still catch mice
21:15 nubbins` "Hi Jon, Yes we spoke with the seller that told us that you had taken down all of your products so we thought you wanted your account closed so we went ahead and closed it, but we did not know that you were still using it."
21:15 nubbins` once again, coingig: amazing company
21:15 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
21:15 mircea_popescu nubbins` you should ipo it on cryptosticks.
21:16 nubbins` sticks and binds
21:17 nubbins` what i should do is roll a large "jazz cigarette" and walk to the bank
21:17 BingoBoingo I wonder how long until someone IPOs S.MPOE on SticktoCrypt
21:18 nubbins` StryptoCocks
21:18 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo dudes had done their research, teppy had been inactive on forum for a while
21:18 nubbins` letter transposition is seriously one of my true joys
21:18 nubbins` wordplay in general, really
21:18 KRS1 /me
21:19 BingoBoingo Hadn't Kumala been inactive on the forum as well?
21:19 nubbins` it's amazing how quickly people get pissed off when you immediately clatter off the acronyms of the sentences they say
21:19 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
21:20 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lmao.
21:20 mircea_popescu someone should ipo cryptostocks on cryptotheother thing
21:20 mircea_popescu and vice-versa
21:20 asciilifeform http://wry.me/~darius/writings/language-ranking.html
21:20 ozbot The superiority of actor languages
21:21 BingoBoingo And to my knowledge Kumala hasn't hired or credentialed a PR. Maybe CryptoSticks-PR should be an account?
21:21 asciilifeform "Haskell code" <-> "sad coke hell"
21:21 mircea_popescu ah goode one!
21:21 mircea_popescu mod6 you gotta see that link
21:21 asciilifeform "C-plus-plus code" <-> "C does cull pups"
21:21 asciilifeform etc
21:21 nubbins` "code in c sharp" = "cached prison"
21:21 nubbins` leel
21:22 mircea_popescu no basic ?!
21:22 nubbins` also, "chain'd corpse"
21:22 mircea_popescu that thing needs basic.
21:22 nubbins` code in basic -> cocaine dibs
21:23 mircea_popescu yeah!
21:23 Vexual needs to bein in html 1.0, those tables look wrong
21:23 nubbins` "seriously guys, somebody cut me up a hollywood. i'm done with this shit"
21:24 nubbins` i lel'd heartily the first time i heard the word "hollywood" used in that sense
21:26 Vexual face sick?
21:26 asciilifeform 'basic code' -> 'coca bides'.
21:27 nubbins` heh
21:27 nubbins` coca does bide
21:28 Vexual Alembic Piss
21:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00081581 = 9.1779 BTC [-]
21:29 nubbins` "mircea popescu" -> "a cum periscope"
21:29 mod6 lol perl => old creep
21:29 Vexual ouch#
21:30 nubbins` also, "coca empire, sup"
21:30 nubbins` anyway! bank run
21:30 mircea_popescu lol sup
21:37 Vexual let $codeinbasic = "Dab Ice Sonic"
21:39 kakobrekla >This will be our third exchange move. Not many assets have lived through GLBSE then BTC-TC and now Havelock, but Cognitive will proudly surge forward!
21:39 kakobrekla ah well.
21:44 Vexual ax errs on try
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22:07 mircea_popescu i can't believe you dorks spent hours discussing fistifucing me.
22:07 Vexual liar
22:13 dub cum soap recipe
22:14 dub rape cope music
22:17 dub kakobrekla: oak bark elk
22:19 dub asciilifeform == official miser
22:19 dub a orifices film
22:22 vexualanagram do me do me
22:27 asciilifeform there we go.
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.044 = 0.132 BTC [-] {2}
22:28 vexualanagramith A Vegan Hula Matrix
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.0439 = 0.1756 BTC [-]
22:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 17 @ 0.04000588 = 0.6801 BTC [-] {4}
22:30 vexualanagramith Vantage Aim Ax Hurl
22:30 nubbins` http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/11/11/venezuela-seizes-stores/3497003/
22:30 ozbot Venezuela vows to take other stores in attack on retailers
22:31 vexualanagramith A Taxer Valuing Ham
22:31 mircea_popescu http://nypost.com/2013/10/09/mob-wanted-johnny-carson-dead-after-drunken-flirtation/
22:31 ozbot Mob wanted Johnny Carson dead for flirting | New York Post
22:31 vexualanagramith A Lava Exam Hurting
22:35 vexualanagramith A Guava Lather Minx
22:35 nubbins` http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/11/12/1553216/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-vanishes-taking-25m-of-coins-with-it
22:35 ozbot Chinese Bitcoin Exchange Vanishes, Taking £2.5m of Coins With It - Slashdot
22:37 dub good shit venezuela
22:37 dub nationalise all the things
22:37 dub eat the rich
22:40 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/two-examples-of-irc-misuse-with-ample-commentary/
22:40 ozbot Two examples of IRC misuse, with ample commentary. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
22:40 mircea_popescu here we go.
22:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59880239 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.599999 = 1.8 BTC [+]
22:47 mircea_popescu In a 1956 letter to J. Edgar Hoover, a former member of the Army Intelligence Service stated that Presley was a "definite danger to the security of the United States" because he had driven girls and boys mad!
22:47 mircea_popescu The author further criticized Elvis's "motions and gestures, like those of masturbation or riding a microphone," and added that "Indications of the harm Presley did ... were two high school girls (...) whose abdomen and thigh had Presley's autograph. ... There is also gossip of the Presley Fan Clubs that degenerate into sex orgies." The letter concluded with the assumption that, based on eyewitness reports, Presley was
22:47 mircea_popescu "a drug addict and a sexual pervert."
22:47 mircea_popescu i hope that any future prosecutions of bitcoin include rock&roll caselaw.
22:48 Vexual B3
22:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 550 @ 0.00567771 = 3.1227 BTC [-] {7}
22:54 mircea_popescu http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303763804579183680751473884
22:54 ozbot Andrew Huszar: Confessions of a Quantitative Easer - WSJ.com
22:59 mircea_popescu "We were working feverishly to preserve the impression that the Fed knew what it was doing."
22:59 mircea_popescu why do these dorks sound so much like bitcointalk.
23:00 asciilifeform venezuela == cia project, public service reminder that communism -> no plasma tvs. you read it here 1st...
23:01 mircea_popescu you know there's no need of divine intervention to explain why idiots jumping off buildings go splat.
23:01 mircea_popescu similarly, there's no need to involve the world's least competent secret service to explain why chavez went nowhere.
23:02 asciilifeform normally when you get millions of idiots happily jumping, rather than the odd one or two, somebody's built a convenient ramp.
23:02 mircea_popescu nope.
23:02 mircea_popescu i tell you, if cia were involved the only difference would be a ton of leaked "secret" documents
23:02 asciilifeform probably right.
23:03 asciilifeform i just like to imagine that the 1950s cia lives on, somewhere
23:03 mircea_popescu should be the pia, polychinelle's intelligence agency
23:03 asciilifeform in a bunker.
23:03 mircea_popescu "everyone knows except congress"
23:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [-]
23:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12000001 BTC [+]
23:05 Vexual http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3264/2832264311_52acb2db27_o.jpg
23:06 nubbins` ?
23:06 asciilifeform Vexual: yours?
23:06 Vexual no, i disklike creme brule
23:09 asciilifeform the cia described in the well-known 'mr. death' must have been a beautiful place to work.
23:09 asciilifeform http://highpowerrocketry.blogspot.com/2010/09/magic-bullets-and-other-cia-inventions.html
23:09 ozbot High Power Rocketry: Inventing death: Interview with a (maybe) CIA weapons designer
23:11 mircea_popescu the moral of the internet is that why work for a studio to do your movie ? work for some guys you personally know and like/
23:12 mircea_popescu this is true of everything, it doesn't stop with books and movies. the same is true of each and every human activity, from car design to espionage.
23:12 mircea_popescu in the not-so-distant future all the national secret services will consist of will be a list of credentials to allow them to get on say #bitcoin-assets
23:13 asciilifeform i asked a colleague recently, 'doesn't every boy dream of running his own kgb' and he looked at me 'funny.'
23:13 mircea_popescu funny haha or funny ouch ?
23:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60999999 BTC [+]
23:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 100000 @ 0.00013757 = 13.757 BTC [+] {4}
23:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]
23:20 BingoBoingo Gawker finally made something not totally horrible http://gawker.com/after-30-years-of-silence-the-original-nsa-whistleblow-1454865018
23:21 Vexual and asciilifeform was never accepted into that early childhood learning program.
23:22 mircea_popescu "The four-story brownstone at 141 East 37th Street in Manhattan has no remarkable features: a plain building "
23:22 mircea_popescu this Method writing style is becoming unbearable.
23:24 Vexual isn't everyone an nsa analyst now? wheres the story?
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23:44 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I didn't say the prose wasn't bad
23:44 mircea_popescu yeah.
23:45 BingoBoingo Talking phenomenology on the phone
23:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11274 @ 0.00082046 = 9.2499 BTC [+] {2}
23:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.63979938 = 3.199 BTC [+] {3}
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