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← 2013-09-27 | 2013-09-29 → ↓
00:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01357 = 0.1357 BTC [-]
00:14 VanCleef just reading latest mpex financial report
00:14 VanCleef why are they wasting 12 btc on pr and marketing when mpex now is pretty much completely dead
00:15 VanCleef the marketing Pr isn't working and its costing 12btc every time?
00:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.482 BTC [+]
00:16 mircea_popescu prolly cause the ceo is clueless and hasn't yet come to these realisations
00:18 VanCleef or just likes killing money
00:19 mircea_popescu he's been known to be outspending all of the various bitcoin jesuses taken together in any given month, so probably that too.
00:19 VanCleef 12btc a month yeh?
00:19 mircea_popescu that's just the marketing and pr that's not working.
00:19 mircea_popescu you should see what the working part costs.
00:20 VanCleef if i was paying someone to do marketing PR for 12btc they better be bringing in new accounts
00:20 VanCleef alot more
00:20 mircea_popescu yeah.
00:20 mircea_popescu same thing with mining, when i plunk down 12 btc for a miner i expect it to have been in my office three weeks prior.
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01:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.45725 = 11.658 BTC [-] {2}
01:18 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.04666 = 0.4666 BTC [-]
01:19 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 26 @ 0.0466 = 1.2116 BTC [-] {2}
01:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.438 BTC [-]
01:32 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 199 @ 0.00053 = 0.1055 BTC [-] {3}
01:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1350 @ 0.00146215 = 1.9739 BTC [+] {2}
01:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 487 @ 0.00115054 = 0.5603 BTC [-] {4}
01:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 87 @ 0.00116997 = 0.1018 BTC [+]
02:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 100 @ 0.00164 = 0.164 BTC [-]
02:03 mod6 ugh
02:11 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2QQuj34WJM
02:11 ozbot Tricky "Puppy Toy" - YouTube
02:17 mod6 ;;bc,stats
02:17 gribble Current Blocks: 260522 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 1557 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 16 hours, 5 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 177527240.021 | Estimated Percent Change: 19.29055
02:21 mod6 ;;ticker
02:21 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.50420, Best ask: 140.96992, Bid-ask spread: 1.46572, Last trade: 139.50418, 24 hour volume: 24408.67095167, 24 hour low: 134.82811, 24 hour high: 142.66000, 24 hour vwap: 138.89580
02:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 149 @ 0.01300818 = 1.9382 BTC [-] {5}
02:49 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 150 @ 0.00485 = 0.7275 BTC [-]
02:53 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.47864284 = 20.701 BTC [+] {6}
02:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.49 = 7.45 BTC [+]
03:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.49 = 37.25 BTC [+]
03:16 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 22 @ 0.1423 = 3.1306 BTC [-]
03:21 mod6 wb
03:23 mircea_popescu why ty.
03:24 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.49 = 8.94 BTC [+]
03:24 Vexual do you wish any twisted revenge on the attacker?
03:25 Vexual if you have any leads, i'd delight in replacing his computer with a broken amstrad
03:26 mircea_popescu what do i care lol.
03:26 mircea_popescu ppl wish to donate their time for the strengthening of mpex and spreading of the gpg goodword, all the better.
03:26 Vexual true as true
03:27 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.00054034 = 0.5403 BTC [-] {2}
03:27 mircea_popescu i'll be a lot more worried when everyone stops trying tbh.
03:28 mircea_popescu anyway, i see a bunch of people have already sent their keys, keep em coming.
03:31 Vexual seriously , i need a new computer
03:34 mircea_popescu what, you're on a ductaped together amstrad ?
03:35 Vexual no
03:35 mircea_popescu "what 686 ?! I got a 464!!!"
03:35 Vexual is 686n a thing?
03:35 Vexual is that dual core?
03:36 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.1423 = 1.423 BTC [-]
03:36 mod6 Vexual: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P6_(microarchitecture)
03:37 mircea_popescu [\\\] hm ?
03:37 you were collecting keys, so I started throwing random ones out
03:37 mircea_popescu oty.
03:37 nothing like a keyring with random keys
03:38 it makes unlocking more interesting
03:38 mircea_popescu lolk
03:39 mod6 heh, im actually still running a up-to-date 686 fbsd host:
03:39 mod6 % dmesg | grep "CPU"
03:39 mod6 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) (900.16-MHz 686-class CPU)
03:39 mod6 runs like a champ hahah
03:39 Vexual i burnt my fingerprints off on a 386
03:40 Vexual whot fan?
03:40 mircea_popescu mod6 wouldn't surprise me if they will soon sell at a premium.
03:40 mircea_popescu pretty much the last generation where people can be certain no nsa skulldruggery was added.
03:40 mod6 yeah!
03:41 Vexual rasta don't work for no cia
03:42 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3St0Q2e_74
03:42 ozbot Bob Marley - Rat Race - YouTube
03:45 mod6 This box is the last one remaining of the 5 I built back in 2001 or so. I did replace the PS at one point on this one. But I built these boxes from new parts @ newegg.
03:45 Vexual first celeron?
03:45 mod6 All of them were just for my personal NOC. Cost me like $1500 or something. Was a steal at the time for 5 built hosts.
03:46 Vexual i used to sell pcs when i was 15
03:46 Vexual dem profit margins
03:46 mod6 Vexual: they were all of the same config -- the athlon 900mhz
03:46 mod6 real memory = 268435456 (256 MB)
03:46 mod6 lol
03:47 mod6 amazing
03:47 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
03:47 mod6 for reals
03:47 Vexual no shit
03:48 mod6 thing has like 12-13 years of nearly 100% uptime. except moves, a few power outages. the PS used to knock so bad because the PS fan had a bad bearing. I finally replaced it.
03:48 mod6 Once I did, I missed the white noise from the damn thing.
03:48 mod6 haha
03:49 mod6 *ka-clack* *ka-clack* *bzzzzz* *ka-clack*
03:50 Vexual they dont build em like the used to
03:51 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 13000 @ 0.00049342 = 6.4145 BTC [-] {19}
03:51 mod6 heheh, i suppose they dont. thing used to just run ircd and bind.
03:51 Vexual now hey play fuckin 4k
03:53 mod6 speaking of amazing company... is that a new low?
03:53 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
03:53 mod6 $ave btctc labcoin
03:54 Vexual second hand xbox.million dollars!
03:54 amazing company is amazing
03:54 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
03:54 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
03:54 oh god
03:54 mod6 hahaha
03:54 mod6 ut oh
03:54 amazing amazing amazing amazing amazing amazing
03:54 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
03:54 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
03:54 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
03:54 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
03:54 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
03:54 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
03:54 might wanna cap that
03:54 mircea_popescu srls.y
03:55 kakobrekla ^^
03:55 good thing supa isn't around atm
03:56 mircea_popescu mod6 i had a fan do that once. so i took the fan apart.
03:56 mircea_popescu it was a pube.
03:57 mod6 lmao
03:57 mod6 gotta love it
03:58 Vexual you dont look like the sort with airbourne pubes mp
03:58 Vexual was it blonde?
03:58 mircea_popescu nope.
03:58 mircea_popescu http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/10339296/Six-year-old-becomes-first-transgender-child-in-Argentina-to-change-identity.html
03:58 ozbot Six-year-old becomes first transgender child in Argentina to change identity - Telegraph
03:59 mircea_popescu the Children, Youth and Family Secretary ruled children under 14 were capable of giving consent and cited international human rights
03:59 mircea_popescu get a load of this. children ubnder 14 are now capable of giving consent in argentina.
03:59 Vexual whats new?
04:00 Vexual i was capable at 14
04:00 Vexual i wanted to be a man, and i was well on my way
04:01 mod6 !ticker btctc labcoin
04:01 assbot [BTCT:LABCOIN] 1D: 0.0002402 / 0.00048 / 0.0007776 (926722 shares, 447.8 BTC), 7D: 0.0002402 / 0.00125 / 0.002849 (5036941 shares, 6293.9 BTC), 30D: 0.0002402 / 0.00223 / 0.003989 (14342052 shares, 31935.7 BTC)
04:01 Vexual except for the cryind and the stupid decisions
04:01 VanCleef why do you always took about kids n that?
04:01 VanCleef talk
04:01 Vexual in further news, water on mars, bring a laser
04:02 VanCleef obsessed with kids or something
04:02 mircea_popescu i talk about a vast variety of topics.
04:03 mod6 Vexual: i saw that on the weather channel of all things.
04:03 Vexual what were you like at 14 vancleef?
04:03 VanCleef lol this is like the 5th time this week i seen you mention kids
04:03 VanCleef i've been scheming since i'm 14, what was your dream?
04:03 mircea_popescu VanCleef Aug 23 17:40:44 <Rulother>I need a bot on here that counts how many times you mention scams and scammers mp
04:03 mircea_popescu that theory didn;'t work out too well either. i just mention everything.
04:04 Vexual fuck man ive been scemeing since i was born man, i could probably scheme this whole thing, and still walk away, wouldn't be no problem at all
04:04 Vexual man
04:04 mod6 AMAZING SCAM
04:04 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
04:05 VanCleef scams and scammers are fine
04:05 VanCleef should mention that more :P
04:05 mircea_popescu amazingdoesitgrep ?
04:05 mircea_popescu blablamazing
04:05 VanCleef labcoinzing
04:06 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWxgfTMLtc0
04:06 ozbot Cheech & Chong - Up In Smoke - Funniest Scenes - YouTube
04:07 mircea_popescu in other news, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_gangrene
04:07 Vexual yeah well if your coomputer turns into an amstrad, dont eat nothing from your fridge man
04:08 mod6 damn that looks gnarly
04:08 VanCleef hate it when you get gangrene on your balls
04:09 mod6 Instead, the discharge is often described as "sweetly putrid" or "dishwater pus" because it is much thinner than normal pus.
04:09 mod6 mmm
04:09 VanCleef bbs, trying to eat dinner here
04:09 mod6 YAAAA
04:12 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.5231 BTC [+]
04:20 mircea_popescu mod6 did you get to the hemipelvectomy ?
04:20 mod6 haha, yes.
04:20 Vexual sounds nasty
04:21 Vexual were you run over?
04:21 mod6 i clicked on that cause of 'wtf' and yah, that looks really not good. apparently this is in the pelvis region. im not super clued on this stuff tho.
04:22 mircea_popescu sorta like a radical vasectomy
04:22 Vexual i turned to alcoholism for my priaprism
04:23 mod6 i just think 'how can life go on after such an operation' but alas, life goes on i suppose.
04:24 Vexual life begins after 0.02
04:24 mircea_popescu i think that guy bit it.
04:24 mod6 i don't see how one can survive such a tramatic surgery
04:25 mod6 but what do i know lol
04:26 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 207 @ 0.000501 = 0.1037 BTC [+]
04:26 mod6 *traumatic
04:26 Vexual waaa
04:26 Vexual rhink or the surgeon
04:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.51015826 = 4.5305 BTC [-] {2}
04:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.50544 = 7.5272 BTC [-] {4}
04:30 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1540 @ 0.00050945 = 0.7846 BTC [+] {2}
04:31 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1059 @ 0.00051782 = 0.5484 BTC [+] {2}
04:31 mircea_popescu so it went to 5 the other way, eventually.
04:31 Vexual leo wheres the fuckin atms?
04:33 Vexual i hope u got a good customs agent in poland or wherever
04:34 VanCleef http://youtu.be/R5mMRiiCwak
04:34 ozbot Bottom percussion PATAX. - YouTube
04:36 Vexual leo you got a loction for your sydney machine yet?
04:37 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 6 @ 0.082 = 0.492 BTC [+]
04:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.013 = 0.624 BTC [-] {2}
04:47 mod6 maybe this coming week i'll be able to test out my -assets socket script.
04:48 mod6 being free of other obligations for the last ~27 days has been awesome for my side-projects.
04:49 mircea_popescu o hey. finally out of that horror job ?
04:50 mod6 yes :)
04:50 mod6 so glad.
04:51 mircea_popescu wd.
04:51 mod6 thx. took 8 months of wrap up or more. but it was either ditch it, or get in far deeper as there was much more to do coming down the pipe. so to speak.
04:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.38618998 = 13.8619 BTC [-] {8}
04:53 mod6 in the mean time i've been plowing ahead on the android tool. done well with that. gotten RSA clearsign/enc/dec working. so that felt great.
04:56 mircea_popescu cool.
04:56 mircea_popescu i think we're going to see a famine of good crypto products the coming decade.
04:57 mircea_popescu sorta like it was with web apps in the 90s
04:57 mod6 i can imagine.
04:57 mircea_popescu (a dead horse the vc noobs are still beating today)
04:58 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1423 BTC [-]
04:58 mod6 it was another strange issue that i ran into a week ago. some of these crypto libs are a bit lacking compared to say what gnupg can do out of the box.
04:59 mircea_popescu some would say "deliberately so
04:59 mircea_popescu "
04:59 mod6 bouncy-castle is this lib that is available for use, which works fine with RSA but when it comes to DH/DSS or DSA/ElGamal no worky.
05:00 the android bitcoin wallet uses bouncy-castle
05:00 or did
05:00 I forget
05:00 mod6 i actually ended up going through my Applied Crypto book and implemented what amounts to doing this: http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1998/12/msg00290.html
05:00 mod6 starting here: : ElGamal Encryption with DSA
05:01 mircea_popescu i think if you have to pick one cypher
05:01 mircea_popescu then rsa is probably the correct choice.
05:01 mod6 [\\\]: ya, it might. i know that bitcoinj does
05:01 mircea_popescu i orginally thought elgamal was the correct choice, but seems i was wrong
05:02 mod6: bitcoin wallet is based off bitcoinj
05:04 mod6 lol *shrug*
05:06 mod6 had massive problems trying to use BC for not just DSA sigs, but using ElGamal subkey with DSA pub keys.
05:06 mod6 so think i acutally coded myself around it. but now it should be a problem anymore.
05:06 mod6 so that's awesome.
05:06 mod6 *shouldn't
05:08 mod6 im not really saying anything about bitcoin wallet or bitcoinj in particular. just that BC seems to be an incomplete implementation when held up next to gnupg
05:08 mod6 or i could just be derp
05:10 mircea_popescu my current curiosity in the field is why isn't cramer–shoup more widely usedf.
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05:11 mircea_popescu at any rate it should have been implemented in preference of elgamal
05:11 mircea_popescu or as you say, maybe im just derp.
05:13 bitcoin is an incomplete implementation
05:13 I don't think it was supposed to be
05:14 mircea_popescu i was discussing gpg/pgp/ssh keys/whatever else uses diffie-hellman
05:15 mod6 yeah. i think that since elgamal is malleable, using the universal one-way hash to achieve the non-mallebility make cramer-shoup an interesting choice.
05:16 mod6 the NSA probably put the kabosh on it lol
05:17 mircea_popescu moreover, that ind-cca2 is juicy
05:17 mircea_popescu afaik the only to satisfy the standard
05:18 mircea_popescu i'd really like to be enlightened as to what practical consideration recommends the use of elgamal still.
05:23 mod6 yeah, its strange that elgamal wasn't stayed away from more since it doesn't conform to ind-cca1/2
05:23 mircea_popescu i mean in the 90s right ? i can see it. but it's 2013. we got powah.
05:27 mod6 yeah. its prettyamazing
05:27 mod6 so here's an implementation of cramer-shoup, kinda looking at it now: http://www.verify-it.de/sub/crypter.html#SOURCES
05:28 mod6 fun stuff is here: http://www.verify-it.de/applets/CryptoModule.java
05:29 mircea_popescu i don't presume to read crypto implementations as if i understand anything.
05:29 mod6 here's the meat: alpha = hashBitList(pk.k,pk.p,pk.hash,bitListThree(pk.k,u1,u2,e))
05:34 mod6 maybe gnupg needs a patch where this is translated to C and DSA/ElGamal are removed
05:35 mircea_popescu if someone did that i'd certainly want to see what the maintainer does.
05:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.45014285 = 10.151 BTC [-] {2}
05:37 mod6 yah, that'd get interesting.
05:37 mircea_popescu http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gnupg.html
05:37 mod6 i've got all the 1.4.14 src local actually. i was doing some gdb of the sucker recently.
05:38 ozbot Debian Package Tracking System -
05:38 mircea_popescu The current maintainer is looking for someone who can help with the maintenance of this package.
05:38 mod6 ahh!
05:39 mircea_popescu maybe you should say hi
05:39 mircea_popescu now that you got out of a shitty job paying not enough for a lot of work
05:39 mircea_popescu time to get a shittier job paying nothing at all for a TON of work.
05:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.3004 BTC [-]
05:40 mod6 LOL
05:40 mod6 i'll take a deeper look this coming week.
05:43 mod6 next week too (after sunday) i'll be testing to make sure that the RSA enc/dec of the cmds is working as it should.
05:44 mod6 actually, i already know it works since i tested them while enc/dec with my own key without having to leave the local system.
05:45 mod6 i just need it to interact, get a response and display. once that's done. code cleanup + testing on my actual device instead of the emu.
05:46 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/472/kncminer-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-october-1st/
05:46 mod6 then we'll see where that goes.
05:46 mircea_popescu i am guessing nobody actually got a device ? or ?
05:46 ozbot BitBet - KnCMiner will deliver ASIC devices before October 1st
05:47 mod6 "Suck it Pizza-dick I will be spending up your sweet sweet btc next weekend :D" << lol
05:48 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 174 @ 0.00979425 = 1.7042 BTC [-] {2}
05:49 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3011 @ 0.0099 = 29.8089 BTC [+] {2}
05:49 mircea_popescu 26-09-13 23:17No294.2500000012LCk/ 1Q5nb
05:49 mircea_popescu i like that best. 4 btc bet on like... 29/100`000 weight.
05:50 mod6 yeah, yikes
05:51 mod6 the calculator thingy is sweet tho
05:51 "ASICMINER will be higher than 2 BTC on October 31st 2013. If assbot relays any trade of any AsicMiner passthrough at or under 2 BTC per share at any point during October 31st, 2013, this bet resolves as No. Otherwise, the bet resolves as Yes."
05:51 mircea_popescu apparently it has just one major design flaw :
05:51 that bet is totally gameable
05:51 mircea_popescu it has to be used.
05:51 mod6 haha
05:51 since there is no depth
05:51 mircea_popescu [\\\] asicminer is like... the only OTHER actual company publicly listed.
05:51 mircea_popescu what's one to do ?
05:52 mircea_popescu but yes, it's a weak bet, i wouldn't risk too much dust on it.
05:52 the text is weak
05:52 mircea_popescu how'd you make it ?
05:52 it probably would have been better to structure it was any trade >2 resolves as Yes
05:53 that would constitute "ASICMINER will be higher than 2 BTC on Oct 31, 2013"
05:53 otherwise, the title text should have read ASICMINER will continuously trade >2 BTC on Oct 31, 2013"
05:53 mircea_popescu equally easily gameable.
05:54 there's a difference between A trade and ALL trades on a given day
05:54 further, it doesn't give a timezone
05:54 and since you have multiple PT on multiple TZ, there's more room for error
05:54 but meh
05:55 mircea_popescu bitbet is gmt.
05:55 Where's that listed?
05:56 How do we know what time it is at bitbet?
05:56 nowhere does it say "Time is XYZ"
05:57 mircea_popescu in the faq man.
05:57 mod6 What timezone is BitBet in?
05:57 mod6 All times are GMT.
05:57 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/faq/#170
05:57 ozbot FAQ BitBet
05:57 ah right
05:59 VanCleef i gotta admit i really enjoy bitbet
05:59 VanCleef and think its pretty genius
06:01 mircea_popescu i personally think most of its potential hasn't really been unlocked yet.
06:01 mircea_popescu the comment section for instance... it's like purified 4chan with something to talk about.
06:06 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.6498 BTC [+]
06:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.476 BTC [+]
06:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 143 @ 0.001365 = 0.1952 BTC [-]
06:18 jurov http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/27/1241960/-Twitter-CEO-Blown-Away-by-Iran-President-s-Account-as-Rouhani-Re-Tweets-State-Department
06:18 ozbot Daily Kos: Twitter CEO Blown Away by Iran President's Account as Rouhani Re-Tweets State Department
06:18 jurov omg welcome to age of twatter diplomacy
06:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2741 @ 0.00032204 = 0.8827 BTC [+] {2}
06:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 941 @ 0.00032204 = 0.303 BTC [+]
06:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15280 @ 0.00032202 = 4.9205 BTC [-] {3}
06:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4358 @ 0.00032202 = 1.4034 BTC [-]
06:36 mircea_popescu heh
06:38 mircea_popescu basically after the stunningly cold ownage putin delivered in the ny times, everyone wants to get a finger in the honey jar located in obama's recently decerebrated skull.
06:38 mircea_popescu "look, we can humiliate the us president too!"
06:39 mircea_popescu "almost as cool as putin"
06:40 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 799 @ 0.0014 = 1.1186 BTC [+]
06:43 Namworld ugh, so many requests to cash out BTC-BOND. Anyone wants to get them or should I start liquidating a bit of stuff?
06:45 mircea_popescu Namworld i would say prepare for a freeze in finance. winter's coming.
06:48 Namworld Sounds nice.
06:52 Namworld Let's see what I can cash out... hmm.
06:52 what is btc-bond?
06:53 Namworld Loan
06:53 Apocalyptic Namworld is back, been on vacation ?
06:54 Namworld No, just visiting family. Caught a flu, didn't feel like going on the computer afterward.
07:07 Namworld ok well I found what to liquidate.
07:07 Namworld Goodbye fiat.
07:10 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.1423 = 0.5692 BTC [-]
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07:30 Namworld Redeeming completed.
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07:55 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 63 @ 0.01252062 = 0.7888 BTC [-] {6}
07:56 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 37 @ 0.00988143 = 0.3656 BTC [-] {3}
07:58 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.0565 = 0.1695 BTC [+]
08:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
08:01 Namworld That's a lot of shares.
08:04 mircea_popescu wd
08:04 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 250 @ 0.00486 = 1.215 BTC [+]
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08:28 Apocalyptic Namworld, do you have the link to your google spreadsheet ?
08:31 Namworld https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGFKVlAtZVAzOGNqS1Brd05MUlFlT2c
08:31 ozbot Namworld's Portfolio
08:31 Namworld or you mean the google spreadsheet tools thread?
08:32 Apocalyptic nope that's the link i was looking for, thanks !
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09:00 nubbins` hi
09:04 Namworld Hello
09:15 nubbins` http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/100-for-100-fine-silver-coin-the-grizzly-2014-prod1730001#.UkbRdmQiGv4
09:15 ozbot $100 for $100 Fine Silver Coin - The Grizzly (2014)
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09:43 kakobrekla morning
09:45 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 800 @ 0.0005188 = 0.415 BTC [+]
09:47 Namworld Hello
09:48 Apocalyptic Namworld, out of curiosity what assets did you liquidate ?
09:49 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 26 @ 0.1423 = 3.6998 BTC [-]
09:49 Namworld Fiat money
09:49 kakobrekla !jd
09:49 assbot Just-Dice stat: 383 BTC profit, 43.2k BTC invested, 142.70 mio bets, 2.08 mio BTC wagered
09:49 Namworld "[07:07] <Namworld> ok well I found what to liquidate.
09:49 Namworld [07:07] <Namworld> Goodbye fiat.
09:50 Namworld Who manages assbot?
09:50 kakobrekla <-
09:51 Diablo-D3 Namworld: so are you moving btc-mining or just dropping it?
09:51 Namworld I guess I'll keep an offline list.
09:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.43524999 = 11.482 BTC [-] {5}
09:53 Diablo-D3 Namworld: how many DMC do you have atm?
09:54 Namworld 471
09:55 Diablo-D3 heh
09:56 Diablo-D3 Namworld: you own 14% of DMC, I wonder who the other 86% is
09:56 Namworld That much? eh
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09:58 Diablo-D3 Namworld: yeah, theres only 4028 left
09:58 Diablo-D3 the end is in sight
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10:41 pigeons is there a new url for mpex or still coming soon?
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10:56 FabianB_ pigeons: i guess same url, tomorrow noon gmt
10:57 nubbins` ;;later
10:57 gribble Error: "later" is not a valid command.
10:57 nubbins` hm
10:57 nubbins` help me out here
10:58 Graet ;;later tell nubbins` more info needed
10:58 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:58 nubbins` oh, hm
10:58 nubbins` ;;later tell chaang-noi http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/100-for-100-fine-silver-coin-the-grizzly-2014-prod1730001#.UkbtxmQiFKs
10:58 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:59 nubbins` not to split hairs, but "later" obv is a valid command
10:59 nubbins` f you, gribs!
10:59 pankkake ;;later tell
10:59 gribble (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
10:59 pankkake no, the command is latter tell
11:01 pankkake those coins are very interesting, but not for us eurofags :(
11:05 nubbins` play your cards right, i might sell you one ;)
11:05 nubbins` i have a few of these too: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/20-for-20-fine-silver-coin-iceberg-and-whale-2013-prod1690016?o_action=crossSell
11:06 nubbins` it's a poor price for the amount of silver
11:06 nubbins` but they're sold at face value, so there's no risk of losing money on the deal
11:09 Namworld The canadian mints makes WAY too many coins.
11:09 Namworld There's hundreds upon hundreds of designs in all sort of denominations and metal contents.
11:11 pankkake oh, so there's a face value that is actually higher than the silver value?
11:11 Diablo-D3 Namworld: yeah and the hilarious part is
11:11 Diablo-D3 they're only worth the metal
11:12 Diablo-D3 its why I'll accept gold and silver from any major mint
11:13 nubbins` pankkake: yep, it's an oddity in that regard
11:13 nubbins` the 1oz silver rounds have a face value of $5
11:13 nubbins` and the $20 for $20 silver coins are, i think, 1/4oz
11:14 nubbins` Namworld: they make SO MANY coins. Didja see all the superman ones?
11:14 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: lol what
11:14 Diablo-D3 silver is ~$22 an oz
11:14 Diablo-D3 lol.
11:15 Diablo-D3 thats USD not canadian
11:15 nubbins` find me a coin with a face value equal to its silver content
11:16 Diablo-D3 you wont
11:16 nubbins` exactly
11:16 Diablo-D3 although a bitcoin denominated one would be
11:16 nubbins` i guess i'm mildly confused about the lol
11:16 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: face values are lol to me
11:16 nubbins` ah yeah
11:16 Diablo-D3 they have no relevance
11:16 Diablo-D3 you know what 1 oz of silver is worth?
11:17 Diablo-D3 1 oz of silver.
11:17 Diablo-D3 thats all its wortth
11:17 nubbins` well, see, that's what's funny about these 20 for 20/100 for 100 coins
11:17 Diablo-D3 thats its denomination
11:17 Diablo-D3 1 oz silver or gold IS a denomination
11:17 nubbins` they could just as well be steel coins
11:17 Diablo-D3 yes, and if it was steel, 1 oz of steel would be the denomination
11:18 truffles would be nice to lug around silver coins everywhere too
11:18 Namworld The face value is always completly unrelated to metal contents
11:18 nubbins` well, no
11:18 Diablo-D3 Namworld: no, oz IS the face value
11:18 Diablo-D3 dollars, yen, euros, oz.
11:18 Diablo-D3 they are all the same thing
11:18 Diablo-D3 units of currency
11:18 nubbins` ...
11:18 Diablo-D3 for anything but oz to be inscribed on a coin or bar is nonsensical
11:19 nubbins` so, say, a US quarter
11:19 Diablo-D3 that'd be like writing $1USD (90 CDN cents) on a dollar bill
11:19 nubbins` nonsensical for it to say 25 cents?
11:19 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: is not a precious metal
11:19 nubbins` yes, correct
11:19 Diablo-D3 now, if it was a SILVER quarter, yes, it'd be nonsensical to write 25 cents on it
11:19 Diablo-D3 because its not worth 25 cents, its worth more.
11:19 nubbins` yes
11:19 nubbins` and that's why i find these coins so interesting
11:20 nubbins` they're only worth about $6 as silver
11:20 nubbins` but i can walk into a store and purchase $20 worth of goods with it
11:20 nubbins` yaknow?
11:20 Diablo-D3 wait, what?
11:20 nubbins` it's legal tender
11:20 truffles thats cuz humans are so silly
11:20 nubbins` the mint makes them
11:20 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: they put $20 on $6 of silver?!
11:20 Namworld It's legal tender. It's like those worthless paper bills
11:20 nubbins` yes!!
11:20 Diablo-D3 WHAT THE FUCK
11:20 Diablo-D3 thats insane
11:21 nubbins` I KNOW
11:21 nubbins` THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SO AWESOME
11:21 Namworld The paper isn't worth $20, it's still $20
11:21 Diablo-D3 MIND BLOWN
11:21 nubbins` the $100 coin is only slightly over 1ozt
11:21 pankkake who gives you the $20 if you want them, the mint?
11:21 Diablo-D3 Namworld: well, to be fair, I _prefer_ the physical currency being worthless
11:21 pigeons no the $20 worth of silver ones are marked $1. seriously
11:21 nubbins` pankkake: you mean, how can i exchange my $20 coin for $20?
11:21 pankkake yes
11:21 Diablo-D3 Namworld: its a representational currency
11:21 truffles Diablo-D3, why??
11:21 nubbins` walk into a store and hand it to the cashier
11:22 Diablo-D3 Namworld: if a $100 gets ripped up, its easy to replace with a brand new bill
11:22 nubbins` or walk into a bank and deposit it to your account
11:22 pankkake nubbins`: well, I doubt they would accept it
11:22 pankkake ok maybe the bank
11:22 Diablo-D3 $100 of silver is destroyed, well, its going to cost money to fix
11:22 nubbins` pankkake: they might have to call a manager over
11:22 truffles find a mine?
11:22 Namworld That's what's odd about canadian mint coins. You could have a 100 face value coin with 20 dollars worth of silver or a 5 dollar face value coin with 1000 dollars worth of gold in it.
11:22 nubbins` pankkake: but it's legal tender. they can't refuse it
11:22 pankkake so this coin is interesting only for a canadian anyway
11:22 Diablo-D3 Namworld: wtf
11:22 Diablo-D3 Namworld: the second part makes much more sense
11:22 Diablo-D3 Im totally use to coins that are worth far more than their face value
11:22 nubbins` pankkake: well, if you could deposit CAD in your USD bank account...
11:23 Diablo-D3 because gold and silver prices are stable wrt fiat
11:23 Diablo-D3 1 oz of gold is always 1 oz of gold
11:23 Diablo-D3 $1 USD may not always be $1 USD.
11:23 nubbins` what?
11:23 truffles is that why you want to end paper currency?
11:23 Diablo-D3 since the opening of the fed, we're at like, what, $1 USD = 3 cents?
11:23 nubbins` give me a situation where $1USD != $1USD
11:23 pigeons yeah canada's commemorative coins are marked many times below their silver content value, so this guy is just mistaken
11:23 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: inflation
11:24 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: a unit of currency is supposed to be a stable representation of purchasing power
11:24 nubbins` ehh...
11:24 Diablo-D3 inflation depletes the purchasing power of currency
11:24 truffles when your Bitcoins get hacked, how does it get fixed?
11:24 Diablo-D3 pre-Fed USD is worth far more than USD now.
11:24 nubbins` pigeons: i'm mistaken?
11:24 pigeons yes
11:24 nubbins` Diablo-D3: fair enough, although that's an odd way to say it
11:24 nubbins` pigeons: on what point am i mistaken?
11:25 pigeons what is the face value of a silver maple leaf?
11:25 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: well, this is what fiat currency does to you, it makes you think what I said was odd
11:25 nubbins` $5
11:25 Namworld Like this, 500 CAD coin with 5 oz of gold in it: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/5-oz-pure-gold-coin-an-aboriginal-story-mintage-100-2013-prod1700007#.Ukb0dD8phsI
11:25 pigeons how miuch silver is in it?
11:25 nubbins` 1oz
11:25 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: if I build a time machine, shovel a million dollars into it, go back in time to the day the Fed was opened
11:25 Namworld Or this 100 CAD coin with about 1 oz of silver in it: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/100-for-100-fine-silver-coin-the-grizzly-2014-prod1730001#.Ukb0wz8phsI
11:25 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: I become one of the richest men alive
11:25 pigeons ok so deposit your $30 of silver in the bank and you get $5
11:25 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: but now, millionares are a dime a dozen
11:26 truffles time machine i wouldnt chose that ..
11:26 nubbins` pigeons: yes, but nobody would do that
11:26 Namworld or this 25 CAD for 1 oz silver coin: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/100-for-100-fine-silver-coin-the-grizzly-2014-prod1730001#.Ukb0wz8phsI
11:26 nubbins` pigeons: they'd sell it as metal
11:26 Namworld This one has almost the same face value as silver content...
11:26 Diablo-D3 Namworld: thats insane
11:26 truffles id go tell Princess Diana dont get the car
11:26 Namworld As I said, face value and metal contents are always completly unrelated with canadian mint coins.
11:27 nubbins` see, the mint itself sells coins at HUGE markups
11:27 Namworld Beside, they're heavily marked up.
11:27 Diablo-D3 so wait
11:27 Diablo-D3 if I went to the mint
11:27 Diablo-D3 with an oz of coin
11:27 Diablo-D3 er
11:27 Diablo-D3 an oz of silver
11:27 nubbins` they sell silver maple leafs for $95, where you can buy them from any coin shop for $25
11:27 Diablo-D3 and asked them to make me a $100 coin
11:27 Diablo-D3 they would?
11:27 nubbins` Diablo-D3: no
11:27 pigeons not anymore
11:27 Diablo-D3 damnit
11:27 pigeons they used to would make you a $1 coin
11:27 Diablo-D3 because I'd totally show up with a ton
11:27 pigeons but not anymore
11:27 Diablo-D3 and walk away with several quadrillion dollars
11:28 nubbins` anyway, the point i was making is
11:28 Namworld They only make a bunch of models each year and make a few 10000s of each coin
11:28 Namworld like 100-200 models yearly I guess.
11:28 Diablo-D3 Namworld: thats insane
11:28 Diablo-D3 you know how much the US mint makes?
11:28 nubbins` usually with bullion coins, nobody gives a fuck about the face value because it's more valuable as bullion
11:28 Diablo-D3 one of every size.
11:28 Namworld and sell for about 1-3x metal content value
11:28 nubbins` but with these 20 for 20 / 100 for 100 coins
11:28 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: this is what Im saying
11:28 nubbins` they're worth more as face value than bullion
11:28 Diablo-D3 oz of precious metal IS the face value, its a unit of currency
11:28 pigeons no its the opposite nubbins`
11:29 nubbins` no it's not
11:29 pigeons oh your talking about some special ones, sorry
11:29 nubbins` yeah
11:29 nubbins` one sec
11:29 Namworld It definitly should be. You can't put a fixed fiat value on a precious metal coin.
11:29 nubbins` http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/100-for-100-fine-silver-coin-the-grizzly-2014-prod1730001#.Ukb1L2QiFKt
11:29 Diablo-D3 yeah, hes talking about ones that have $5 of metal in them for $20
11:29 ozbot $100 for $100 Fine Silver Coin - The Grizzly (2014)
11:29 Diablo-D3 if you buy them for $5
11:29 nubbins` $100 face value, but only 1oz silver
11:29 pigeons oh
11:29 Diablo-D3 and use them for $20
11:29 Diablo-D3 you made a profit
11:29 Diablo-D3 they shouldnt be legal
11:29 Diablo-D3 and any coin collector should reject them
11:29 nubbins` Diablo-D3: you cant buy them for $5
11:29 truffles learn something new everyday itc
11:30 nubbins` you can only buy them for $20
11:30 Diablo-D3 Ive never seen a coin where the face value isnt a tiny fraction of the actual value
11:30 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: you can from a coin collector whos selling them for weight
11:30 pigeons well old coins
11:30 nubbins` Diablo-D3: no you can't
11:30 nubbins` Diablo-D3: because the coin collector paid $20 each
11:30 Namworld They're purely collector coins/souvenir/memorabilia. I don't think they're meant for investment nor circulation.
11:30 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: I think you misunderstood
11:30 Diablo-D3 coin collectors are faggots
11:30 nubbins` the mint is the only place you can buy these coins
11:30 Diablo-D3 people who buy gold and silver by the oz do not care what the face value is
11:30 nubbins` and they're selling them at face value
11:31 Diablo-D3 so if you show up with an oz of silver, I am paying you $2x for it.
11:31 nubbins` yes
11:31 Diablo-D3 I dont care if the coin says $100 CDN
11:31 nubbins` correcty
11:31 Diablo-D3 because its worth what the silver spot price is.
11:31 nubbins` agreed
11:31 nubbins` and that's why nobody would bring these coins to you
11:32 Diablo-D3 however, it doesnt stop me from using that as $100 of fiat currency because canada is retarded
11:32 nubbins` and sell them for spot
11:32 nubbins` they'd keep them, or sell them to coin collectors at a profit, or spend them at the grocery store
11:32 Diablo-D3 seriously, do you know how simple it is to make fake coins?
11:32 Diablo-D3 melt down existing silver, pour it into a 3D printed mold of a $100 coin
11:33 Diablo-D3 profit
11:33 nubbins` essentially, the mint is saying "hey, trade your shitty paper money for sweet coins with a tiny bit of silver"
11:33 nubbins` Diablo-D3: so what are you waiting for?
11:33 Diablo-D3 Im not canadian
11:33 nubbins` so?
11:33 nubbins` free money machine. buy a plane ticket
11:33 Diablo-D3 I dont own a 3D printer
11:33 nubbins` free money machine. buy a 3d printer
11:33 Diablo-D3 Im already on a government watch list and they're reading what Im writing anyhow
11:34 Diablo-D3 hi guys
11:34 truffles lol
11:34 Apocalyptic lulz
11:34 truffles we're all on it silly
11:34 nubbins` free money machine. get it mailed to your mom's house
11:34 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: my mom died, and this IS my mom's house
11:34 nubbins` anyway
11:34 nubbins` you're trying to tell me you can hand-pour silver into a 3d printed mould
11:34 nubbins` and it'll pass muster?
11:34 nubbins` lel
11:34 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: at a local grocer? yes
11:35 Diablo-D3 to a coin collector? nope
11:35 nubbins` i see what you're saying
11:35 nubbins` a private citizen would be crazy to accept one of these coins as legal tender
11:35 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: yes, but if its canadian legal currency
11:35 nubbins` so i go to the bank instead. problem solved
11:35 Diablo-D3 they MUST accept it
11:36 nubbins` well, "must" is a funny word
11:36 nubbins` they say no, what are you gonna do? call the cops?
11:36 Diablo-D3 well, in the US its must
11:36 Diablo-D3 in canada its probably not a legal requirement
11:36 nubbins` bring them to court?
11:36 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: walk out with the goods
11:36 nubbins` then THEY call the cops
11:36 truffles lol
11:36 Diablo-D3 yup, and then you tell the cops they refused payment
11:36 nubbins` and then you're explaining to the cops what this funny coin is
11:37 nubbins` and then you get charged with counterfeiting currency
11:37 Diablo-D3 nope
11:37 Diablo-D3 they call the secret service
11:37 Diablo-D3 which then verifies its legal tender
11:37 truffles not before getting tazed lol
11:37 Diablo-D3 truffles: cops dont taze people around here
11:37 nubbins` they're gonna verify your hand-poured coin as legal tender?
11:37 Diablo-D3 most of them dont even care tazers, they're too dangerous
11:37 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: they cant tell the difference
11:38 Diablo-D3 it'll just look like tarnished silver
11:38 nubbins` have you ever seen a hand-poured coin?
11:38 truffles maybe not in the good ole days, they seem pretty trigger happy nowadays imo
11:38 nubbins` and have you ever seen the level of detain in these silver coins from the mint?
11:38 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: I have, some of them are exceedingly clever
11:39 Diablo-D3 nubbins`: some people have even made stamping machines
11:39 nubbins` oh, yeah, no doubt
11:39 Diablo-D3 since silver is such a soft metal
11:39 nubbins` but it's an incredibly labourious process to make dies
11:39 Diablo-D3 yup
11:39 nubbins` seems like a terrible way to scam money
11:39 Diablo-D3 this is why face value is supposed to be way below actual value
11:39 Diablo-D3 so this doesnt happen
11:40 Diablo-D3 a 1 oz US eagle is like $25 face value
11:41 nubbins` o really?
11:41 nubbins` anyway, point being, i think these coins are great
11:41 nubbins` and i don't forsee any problems with exchanging them as face value
11:42 nubbins` at least at the bank
11:43 truffles what if crypton like element or whatever found on mars in next 30 years replaces both gold and silver
11:44 truffles not a big deal for us, some of us wont make it that far i guess
11:49 nubbins` lel
11:50 nubbins` you know that krypton is real, right?
11:50 Diablo-D3 its real, but its not what superman thought it was
11:50 nubbins` nah
11:50 nubbins` i wish ;(
11:50 Diablo-D3 its element 36
11:51 Diablo-D3 makes pink neon lights
11:51 nubbins` http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/75-14kt.-gold-coin-supermantrade-the-early-years-mintage-2000-2013-prod1690049#.Ukb66WQiFKs
11:51 ozbot $75 14-Kt. Gold Coin - Supermanâ„¢: The Early Years - Mintage: 2,000 (2013)
11:51 nubbins` conversation just went full circle
11:51 pankkake and it's the Man of Steel
11:51 nubbins` !!!
11:51 nubbins` mind blown
11:51 nubbins` although i have to say
11:52 nubbins` this whole "coloured coin" kick the mint's on lately sucks
11:52 nubbins` they look so crappy
11:52 nubbins` http://www.mint.ca/store/buy/coloured_coins-cat200032
11:52 ozbot Royal Canadian Mint Coloured Coins
11:54 Namworld There's glow in the dark coins too
11:54 kakobrekla also buttcoins
11:54 pankkake I hope someone does My Little Pony coins
11:54 nubbins` http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/1-oz-fine-silver-coin-canadian-maple-canopy-spring-mintage-7500-2013-prod1670009#.Ukb7uWQiFKs
11:54 nubbins` that one's kinda cool
11:54 ozbot 1 oz Fine Silver Coin - Canadian Maple Canopy (Spring) - Mintage 7500 (2013)
11:55 nubbins` most of them are butt ugly
11:55 pankkake it's the only one that didn't strike me as ugly yeah
12:00 nubbins` anyway i have tenants moving in tomorrow, gotta clean up a bit
12:00 truffles coin collecting seems like an expensive use of space
12:00 nubbins` peace
12:00 truffles bye
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13:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00031901 = 3.1901 BTC [-] {2}
13:45 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 600 @ 0.00800013 = 4.8001 BTC [-] {2}
13:56 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 18 @ 0.047 = 0.846 BTC [-]
~ 19 minutes ~
14:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.012585 = 0.1259 BTC [-] {2}
14:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00031666 = 0.95 BTC [-] {2}
14:26 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 84 @ 0.04665976 = 3.9194 BTC [-] {4}
14:29 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7171 @ 0.00058093 = 4.1658 BTC [+] {6}
14:31 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 24 @ 0.1423 = 3.4152 BTC [-] {2}
14:32 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.138 = 0.276 BTC [-]
14:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.431 BTC [-]
14:41 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1496 @ 0.000605 = 0.9051 BTC [+]
~ 22 minutes ~
15:03 smickles ;;later tell mircea_popescu what RNG did you use for the new mpex key?
15:03 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:04 smickles ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/2295881/rsa-warns-customers-against-nsa-compromised-security-product
15:04 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:05 smickles ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1576
15:05 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:08 jurov simckles, the RSA news is old and about proprietary product
15:09 jurov *smickles
15:09 smickles jurov: i thought i was pointing out that the opensource stuff was fixed back in 2008, if he used the proprietary stuff it'd be no good
15:09 jurov and we did talk with mp about secure random numbers generation recently, so he certainy hasn't forgotten
15:10 smickles cool cool
15:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 78 @ 0.00298 = 0.2324 BTC [+]
15:11 smickles ;;later tell mircea_popescu jurov tell me i'm being useless today
15:11 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:11 smickles ;P
15:11 jurov oh no
15:12 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 345 @ 0.00060099 = 0.2073 BTC [-] {2}
15:20 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.00059018 = 1.1804 BTC [-] {2}
15:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 130 @ 0.0029 = 0.377 BTC [-] {2}
15:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6200 @ 0.0003191 = 1.9784 BTC [+]
15:22 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 558 @ 0.0006 = 0.3348 BTC [+]
15:23 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 372 @ 0.000599 = 0.2228 BTC [-]
15:26 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2367 @ 0.00063348 = 1.4994 BTC [+] {5}
15:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0125 = 0.375 BTC [-] {2}
15:27 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 400 @ 0.0006429 = 0.2572 BTC [+]
15:28 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 600 @ 0.0006429 = 0.3857 BTC [+] {2}
15:42 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 300 @ 0.000643 = 0.1929 BTC [+]
15:42 Kleeck__ Why ^?
15:44 tyrion70 cheap? :p
15:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.01253 = 0.2506 BTC [+]
15:51 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7000 @ 0.0006462 = 4.5234 BTC [+] {6}
15:56 thestringpuller !ticker btctc labcoin
15:56 assbot [BTCT:LABCOIN] 1D: 0.0004189 / 0.00063 / 0.0007776 (298783 shares, 187.1 BTC), 7D: 0.0002402 / 0.00124 / 0.002849 (5025414 shares, 6227.4 BTC), 30D: 0.0002402 / 0.00217 / 0.003989 (13839666 shares, 29972 BTC)
15:56 thestringpuller that's insane
15:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.01254999 = 1.3177 BTC [+] {2}
16:05 thestringpuller ;;calc 30000 * 120
16:05 gribble 3600000
16:05 thestringpuller 3.6 mn dollars worth of trades in 30 days huh
16:06 tyrion70 insane huh :P
16:06 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 300 @ 0.000591 = 0.1773 BTC [-]
16:08 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1814 @ 0.0006498 = 1.1787 BTC [+] {7}
16:17 pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304208.0
16:17 ozbot Plans to reinstate BTC-TC: Don't panic
16:21 Kleeck__ LOL@bitbet question for kslaugher interview.
16:21 Kleeck__ was that you pankkake?
16:21 pankkake no, I'm missed the interview too
16:22 Kleeck__ It's re-airing now.
16:22 Kleeck__ Someone asked if they'd be willing to place a bitbet guarentee on their mining ship date. :)
16:23 kakobrekla urlpls
16:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 427 @ 0.01255 = 5.3589 BTC [+]
16:23 pankkake http://bitcast-radio.com/radio/
16:24 Kleeck__ dj is bad.
16:24 Kleeck__ Glad he's reading other people's questions.
16:24 kakobrekla oh this is 'live'
16:24 kakobrekla umm
16:24 Kleeck__ It was. This is the second replay.
16:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 148 @ 0.01345945 = 1.992 BTC [+] {3}
16:24 kakobrekla so what did he respond to bitbet
16:25 Kleeck__ He said no, in a round-about way. "There are too many other parties involved, but if we push back our ship date we'll compensate with more hashing power per late ship"
16:25 kakobrekla meh
16:26 Kleeck__ Not sure if I'd rather have more hashing power later or half of my money back, ala Terrahash.
16:26 Kleeck__ ;P
16:27 thestringpuller NEW SUBJECT
16:27 thestringpuller topic is now about hip hop
16:27 thestringpuller Who killed Tupac?
16:27 pankkake Tupac didn't die, he went underground to write Bitcoin
16:28 mod6 ^^^
16:28 thestringpuller i knew that would bring mod6 out of hiding :D
16:28 mod6 lol
16:29 thestringpuller we need more people from compton here
16:29 thestringpuller or detroit
16:29 thestringpuller I think a bitcoin bank in detroit would be perfect, the feds wouldn't care
16:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.01391538 = 6.9577 BTC [+] {6}
16:29 mod6 small buttonwood meetup would be cool.
16:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 454 @ 0.01399233 = 6.3525 BTC [+] {3}
16:30 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 300 @ 0.000611 = 0.1833 BTC [-]
16:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.430875 = 11.447 BTC [-] {5}
16:51 thestringpuller army of meee
16:59 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 120 @ 0.00486111 = 0.5833 BTC [-] {3}
17:06 jurov why they won't care for derptroit?
17:06 dexX7 oh did i already miss the ken interview?
17:11 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2136 @ 0.00061044 = 1.3039 BTC [-] {4}
17:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1626 @ 0.0006 = 0.9756 BTC [-]
17:26 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4500 @ 0.00058893 = 2.6502 BTC [-] {9}
17:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1150 @ 0.00036497 = 0.4197 BTC [+] {2}
17:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 1.39799999 = 27.96 BTC [+] {3}
17:38 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1749 @ 0.00058316 = 1.0199 BTC [-] {2}
17:40 deizel dexX7: i threw together a transcript, http://pastebin.com/6tSK3DGJ
17:40 dexX7 nice, thanks!
17:41 dexX7 how did he sound? grimly? xD
17:47 deizel heh, southern american accent, laid back tone (engineer) rather than over enthusiastic (sales, pr), sounded like he knew what he was talking about
17:49 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2382 @ 0.00061044 = 1.4541 BTC [+] {3}
17:49 dexX7 soso.. :)
17:50 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 794 @ 0.00062 = 0.4923 BTC [+]
17:50 dexX7 actm is getting more and more solid imho. basically not much has changed, but from time to time i'm almost surprised how solid ken handles stuff
~ 41 minutes ~
18:31 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 729 @ 0.00059 = 0.4301 BTC [-]
~ 38 minutes ~
19:10 Namworld Holy damn shit
19:10 Namworld https://www.secondmarket.com/
19:10 Namworld I hadn't noticed...
19:11 ozbot SecondMarket - The Reinvented Stock Market
19:11 Namworld How old is that?
19:11 dexX7 oh only a few days
19:12 dexX7 less than a week
19:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 426 @ 0.000625 = 0.2663 BTC [-]
19:14 Namworld I don't see it on bitcointalk.org
19:15 Namworld ah, I see its in speculation, none in investment tho
19:18 nubbins` hi
19:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1017 @ 0.0011501 = 1.1697 BTC [-] {3}
19:19 dexX7 http://btckan.com/price wtf BTC100 has allegedly a trading volume of 107941.02 BTC within the last 24 hours (btctalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304235.0)
19:20 pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg3257525#msg3257525 goodbye labcoin
19:20 ozbot [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
19:21 dexX7 wow lol
19:21 dexX7 big selling inc
19:21 nubbins` hahahahahahaha
19:21 nubbins` heavy lels
19:21 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10779 @ 0.00116652 = 12.5739 BTC [-] {7}
19:21 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 28363 @ 0.00054356 = 15.417 BTC [-] {16}
19:22 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 80499 @ 0.00043 = 34.6146 BTC [-] {50}
19:23 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 16503 @ 0.00038785 = 6.4007 BTC [-] {12}
19:23 dexX7 "Your zenpad was delivered, albeit with some delay. I don't think it's fair to call us scammers. Could you please take down this report ? we would sincerely appreciate it"
19:26 dexX7 so ... a former glbse scammer is befriended with those who run labcoin?
19:27 Diablo-D3 its faster
19:28 Namworld I think I'm out with fiat.
19:28 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
19:28 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.04000, Best ask: 142.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.45999, Last trade: 142.49999, 24 hour volume: 13295.67031081, 24 hour low: 138.02021, 24 hour high: 143.00000, 24 hour vwap: 140.68919
19:28 Namworld With a serious vehicle for instituational investors to put money in Bitcoins.
19:29 kakobrekla http://codinginmysleep.com/lessons-learned-from-the-bdt-fiasco/
19:29 ozbot Lessons Learned From the BDT Fiasco - Coding In My Sleep - A Bitcoin Blog
19:29 kakobrekla NONE
19:29 nubbins` lel
19:30 nubbins` huh. regarding those $20 for $20 coins we were talking about earlier:
19:30 nubbins` "(2.1) In the case of coins of a denomination greater than ten dollars, a payment referred to in subsection (1) may consist of not more than one coin, and the payment is a legal tender for no more than the value of a single coin of that denomination."
19:30 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 61071 @ 0.00036398 = 22.2286 BTC [-] {18}
19:31 pankkake I don't get it
19:31 nubbins` im reading about paying for things with coins
19:31 dexX7 this guy deleted his friendship
19:31 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 38288 @ 0.00034449 = 13.1898 BTC [-] {13}
19:31 nubbins` and apparently if the coin has a face value greater than $10, the other party can refuse to accept more than one coin
19:32 dexX7 oh nvm, was wrong
19:32 nubbins` so i couldn't pay for a case of beer with a couple of those $20 coins
19:32 nubbins` well.
19:32 nubbins` i could
19:32 nubbins` but the shopkeep could refuse me
19:32 pankkake why those things have to be so complicated
19:32 nubbins` there's different limits for each coin. they can refuse to accept more than 25 pennies
19:33 nubbins` 100 nickels
19:33 nubbins` 100 dimes
19:33 nubbins` 40 quarters
19:33 nubbins` 25 loonies, 20 toonies
19:33 nubbins` imagine!
19:34 nubbins` no doubt this came about because some asshole tried to buy a car with pennies
19:34 dexX7 http://dcm6srpdb0rbc.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Guz8r.png https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/73003_157276070976549_1882617_n.jpg would you say they are the same?
19:34 pankkake well, many people tried to pay taxes in the most annoying ways
19:34 nubbins` heh
19:34 pankkake in France a guy wrote a cheque on toilet paper
19:35 nubbins` i paid my home insurance ($1200) with fives
19:35 nubbins` purely out of spite
19:35 nubbins` they didn't accept credit cards! like, what the fuck?
19:36 Namworld You should have paid in 1s
19:36 Namworld in cents*
19:36 Namworld In cents is better
19:38 nubbins` the receptionist said "this is what they gave you?"
19:38 nubbins` "no, i asked for these"
19:38 nubbins` she looked very confused
19:39 nubbins` then i said "so why don't you guys take credit cards, anyway?"
19:39 nubbins` and then she lost count
19:39 nubbins` and told me i could leave
19:39 nubbins` lel
19:41 pankkake that's mean
19:42 nubbins` no, it's inconvenient
19:42 pankkake probably not the fault of the receptionist
19:42 nubbins` oh, not at all
19:42 nubbins` but if it happens to her enough, maybe they'll change their policies
19:43 Namworld It doesn't work that way.
19:43 nubbins` it's a small insurance company
19:43 nubbins` so there's a legit chance that if she says "listen, this keeps happening because we don't take CCs", someone will listen
19:43 Namworld Ah. Well still, better get the management annoyed directly.
19:43 nubbins` yeah
19:43 nubbins` i did what i could
19:44 nubbins` but i mean, seriously. it's an insurance company -- they generally only deal with large payments
19:44 nubbins` it's incredibly inconvenient to not be able to use credit
19:44 nubbins` she couldn't even tell me where the nearest bank was!!
19:45 Diablo-D3 just find a new insurance company
19:45 nubbins` anyway, next year, i'll hopefully remember this fiasco, and switch providers
19:45 nubbins` yeah
19:45 nubbins` it's hard to insure houses in the downtown area here
19:45 nubbins` lots of places won't do it
19:45 Diablo-D3 hahahaha
19:45 Diablo-D3 oh man
19:46 Diablo-D3 gmaxwell is on a roll
19:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5019 @ 0.00038033 = 1.9089 BTC [+] {3}
19:46 Diablo-D3 he refuses to answer a simple question
19:46 Diablo-D3 are there, or arent there, any good digital signature schemes that are computationally expensive
19:46 Diablo-D3 and he wont answer it
19:47 Apocalyptic what's the point of having a computationally expensive signature scheme ?
19:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1499 @ 0.00036497 = 0.5471 BTC [+]
19:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4655 @ 0.00041799 = 1.9457 BTC [+] {3}
19:48 Apocalyptic all the usefullness of signature schemes is to be able to check their validity quicky
19:48 Diablo-D3 lol hes now banned me from #p2pool
19:48 Diablo-D3 Apocalyptic: well, its either that, or lamport signatures
19:48 Apocalyptic he probably thinks you're trolling
19:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000315 = 0.315 BTC [-]
19:49 Diablo-D3 yes, and now I think he may actually BE an NSA employee
19:49 Apocalyptic wouldn't surprise me much
19:51 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1690 @ 0.00042376 = 0.7162 BTC [+] {2}
19:53 kakobrekla ok guise
19:53 kakobrekla *drumroll*
19:53 kakobrekla http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/
19:53 ozbot #bitcoin-assets bash
19:53 pankkake nice
19:54 mod6 kakobrekla: sweet
19:54 kakobrekla :)
19:55 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3120 @ 0.000428 = 1.3354 BTC [+]
19:55 Namworld kakobrekla, I PMed you earlier today
19:57 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2730 @ 0.0004299 = 1.1736 BTC [+]
19:58 kakobrekla well i dont see the api, nothing interesting is happening, im not being bribed, and how do you even invest in that thing?
19:58 mod6 late lastnight we saw something amazing amazing amazing!
19:58 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
19:58 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
19:58 Namworld I can bribe you with such phrases as "please" or "plz plz plz"
19:58 Namworld Is that enough?
19:59 jborkl !jd
19:59 assbot Just-Dice stat: -706 BTC profit, 46.2k BTC invested, 143.32 mio bets, 2.09 mio BTC wagered
19:59 mod6 ah, you must have capped it. sweet
19:59 kakobrekla even if they would take pleases in teh grocery store theres still like 3 unanswered questions
20:00 Namworld I PMed you the API link, no investment yet, what's happening there is interesting
20:02 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.009801 = 0.9801 BTC [+]
20:02 kakobrekla where is the bankroll
20:02 kakobrekla whats that 90k btc wagered?
20:03 Namworld yeah
20:03 kakobrekla vs 2 mio heh
20:03 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 40466 @ 0.0003553 = 14.3776 BTC [-] {22}
20:03 Namworld eh, JD is lame
20:03 kakobrekla how do you invest in this thing if one would want?
20:03 kakobrekla yeah tell that to 2 mio btc
20:04 Namworld Only reason there's 2m in bets is Nakowa.
20:04 Namworld He did almost all the volume =P
20:05 kakobrekla yeah for all i care it could be jesus with luke
20:05 copumpkin what's going on with mpex?
20:05 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 17424 @ 0.0003329 = 5.8004 BTC [-] {5}
20:05 kakobrekla still didnt tell me how do you invest innit?
20:06 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10962 @ 0.0003322 = 3.6416 BTC [-]
20:07 Apocalyptic you're talking about coinroll or what ?
20:08 Namworld No investment yet. Maybe eventually, maybe never. All depends on Scrat.
20:08 kakobrekla well not much of an asset then
20:08 Apocalyptic ok, definitly coinroll then
20:09 Namworld I already pitched him a capped bankroll such that it could be slowly lowered so as people leave, no new investment can come in.
20:09 Namworld It will need higher bet limit eventually.
20:10 kakobrekla if it gets open for investments ill reconsider adding it
20:11 Namworld Ok, will notify you if it ever happens.
20:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 108 @ 0.00116799 = 0.1261 BTC [+]
20:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 16552 @ 0.00034471 = 5.7056 BTC [+] {3}
20:15 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 12491 @ 0.00033135 = 4.1389 BTC [-] {3}
20:16 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 38361 @ 0.00031689 = 12.1562 BTC [-] {10}
20:17 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 901 @ 0.00037991 = 0.3423 BTC [+] {2}
20:18 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 179350 @ 0.00028619 = 51.3282 BTC [-] {31}
20:20 zoinky boom
20:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.47979998 BTC [+]
20:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.01462562 = 0.234 BTC [+] {3}
20:20 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 8900 @ 0.00025555 = 2.2744 BTC [-] {2}
20:20 Scrat amazing implosion
20:20 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
20:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.01469999 = 0.2793 BTC [+]
20:23 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3000 @ 0.0002555 = 0.7665 BTC [-]
20:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.43 BTC [-]
20:26 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 11856 @ 0.00025557 = 3.03 BTC [+] {2}
20:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.43 BTC [-]
20:27 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 1.42815384 = 18.566 BTC [-] {5}
20:29 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 21380 @ 0.00025152 = 5.3775 BTC [-] {7}
20:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 500 @ 0.000312 = 0.156 BTC [-]
20:32 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2973 @ 0.00025081 = 0.7457 BTC [-] {2}
20:33 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 15486 @ 0.00025026 = 3.8755 BTC [-] {2}
20:35 pankkake "There will be people who end up homeless over this, people who will lose their life savings over it."
20:35 Namworld Like BS&T?
20:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 644 @ 0.00030559 = 0.1968 BTC [-] {5}
20:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 670 @ 0.00025171 = 0.1686 BTC [-] {7}
20:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2453 @ 0.0013943 = 3.4202 BTC [+] {4}
20:39 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.5221 BTC [-]
20:39 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3766 @ 0.0003085 = 1.1618 BTC [+] {4}
20:42 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.00032 = 1.6 BTC [+]
20:43 mircea_popescu smickles : as far as i know it should be safe. keys can be checked tho, which please do.
20:43 mircea_popescu pankkake which gem is this ?
20:43 pankkake labcoin
20:44 pankkake now linked to many previous scams
20:44 mircea_popescu jhahaha
20:44 gangplank people losing their homes over labcoin? they'd prob lose their home anyway
20:45 mircea_popescu yes, it feels so great to know shit 3 months in advance. marketing baby.
20:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1550 @ 0.000332 = 0.5146 BTC [+]
20:46 pankkake they'll end up in coal mines
20:46 mircea_popescu smickles (also, those vulns were reported/known in 2008)
20:46 pankkake at least they'll be mining
20:46 KRS1 haha
20:53 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 11234 @ 0.00032 = 3.5949 BTC [-]
20:54 pankkake http://www.reddit.com/user/labcoinscam not much drama yet
20:54 ozbot overview for labcoinscam
20:58 dexX7 mircea_popescu: how do you map your blogread-credits to a user?
20:58 mircea_popescu ip or pw
21:00 joecool ie. use a proxy™
21:01 dexX7 i already figured that it does work with hidemyass' webproxy
21:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1096 @ 0.00139 = 1.5234 BTC [-] {4}
21:10 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2500 @ 0.00034264 = 0.8566 BTC [+] {2}
21:10 kakobrekla o hey mp i used contents of your blogpost to populate bash a little, thats because im such a leeching prick
21:12 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 19579 @ 0.000341 = 6.6764 BTC [-]
21:13 mircea_popescu lol.
21:13 mircea_popescu you mean the stuff i got off the log ?
21:13 kakobrekla yep
21:13 kakobrekla :)
21:13 mircea_popescu THEIF
21:13 kakobrekla at least i admit it
21:14 mircea_popescu you'll go to hell whereby you will spend your time being continuously drowned in milk.
21:14 mircea_popescu o wait.
21:14 kakobrekla lol
21:17 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 375 @ 0.00031 = 0.1163 BTC [-]
21:18 mod6 heheheh
21:22 pankkake "All the informations that are being posted are totally made up and there's no direct connection between Labcoin and the people mentioned." https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg3258129#msg3258129
21:24 mircea_popescu the informations and the polices!
21:25 mircea_popescu i have aircrafts full of sheeps!
21:25 pankkake hehe, at least we know he's likely one of those Italians
21:26 kakobrekla well yeah alberto did mention he invested some clients btc in asics
21:26 kakobrekla which was not his biz plan
21:26 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 560 @ 0.00036292 = 0.2032 BTC [+] {5}
21:26 kakobrekla btw
21:27 kakobrekla but even if that is true, he apparently just pocketed the money
21:29 mircea_popescu $avg
21:29 mpexbot mircea_popescu: 134.61
21:30 chsados whats all this about labcoin scam?
21:31 mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1ncdf1/labcoin_outed_as_a_scam/
21:31 ozbot Labcoin outed as a scam : BitcoinStocks
21:31 mircea_popescu reddit discovers the world at their own pace.
21:31 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4034 @ 0.00034409 = 1.3881 BTC [-] {3}
21:32 pankkake I recreated an account just to upvote
21:32 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 566 @ 0.00034369 = 0.1945 BTC [-] {2}
21:32 pankkake "Ugh, I'm looking forward to the day a reputable stock exchange or two pops up where in order to get listed you have to establish some bona fides.
21:33 nubbins` i wonder what qualifies as a bona fide
21:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.01400003 = 0.364 BTC [-] {3}
21:36 mircea_popescu fucktards.
21:37 mircea_popescu "we do not know shit therefore the world doesn't exist. we can do anything therefore we will create it! gaze upon us, we are the 20something illiterate socially awkward unemployable GOD!"
21:37 nubbins` bona fide fucktards
21:37 mircea_popescu bonas fides
21:39 kakobrekla !t bt labcoin
21:39 assbot [BTCT:LABCOIN] 1D: 0.0002502 / 0.00037 / 0.0006599 (765722 shares, 281.3 BTC), 7D: 0.0002402 / 0.0011 / 0.002849 (5518061 shares, 6067.6 BTC), 30D: 0.0002402 / 0.00208 / 0.003989 (14518185 shares, 30173.7 BTC)
21:45 mircea_popescu pankkake where's the quote from ?
21:45 chsados https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmFjmvwPGKU
21:45 ozbot Colored Coins - YouTube
21:45 pankkake mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ncckq/labcoin_has_been_outed_as_a_scam_run_by_notorious/cchbo4v
21:45 gangplank colored coins a bit racist no
21:46 chsados lol
21:46 mircea_popescu spicoin
21:46 chsados gangplank: but it includes ALL colors :P
21:46 mircea_popescu ha!
21:46 mircea_popescu chsados white isn't a color.
21:46 chsados its the lack of color?
21:47 Duffer1 excellent material for trilema is going down now in #labcoin and the labcoin bitcointalk thread
21:48 kakobrekla paste summary here ifs its any good
21:48 mircea_popescu ^
21:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10001 @ 0.00032624 = 3.2627 BTC [+] {3}
21:50 dexX7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg3258316#msg3258316
21:50 ozbot [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
21:51 Duffer1 so apparently
21:51 Urushiol A proper Q/A session will be held tomorrow on irc to clear all questions. I will give here notice of the starting time.
21:51 Urushiol -labcoin
21:52 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10000 @ 0.00036126 = 3.6126 BTC [+] {3}
21:52 Duffer1 bah fck it it's too weird, just read pgs 790-801 in the labcoin thread if you want to piece it together
21:53 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 703 @ 0.000363 = 0.2552 BTC [+]
21:53 dexX7 lol
21:53 dexX7 11 pages
21:53 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/real-men-cabling/
21:53 ozbot Real men cabling pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
21:53 Duffer1 lol how would you summarize all that dex?
21:54 dexX7 haha i don't know.. :) you are right with the pages, but it's almost crazy
21:55 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 9297 @ 0.000363 = 3.3748 BTC [+]
21:55 benkay romaaaaania
21:56 benkay omg
21:56 kakobrekla ill remember of that pic each time mp ping timeouts
21:56 benkay i ams impressed
21:56 benkay dat infrastructure!
21:56 benkay dose humans making decisions!
21:57 mircea_popescu watch and learn bois.
21:57 benkay ?
21:58 mircea_popescu this is how real men cable!
21:58 Kleeck pankkake, you posted a jacked up gif of some japanese dude slamming his cock into people. Can you repost?
21:58 Kleeck It was a fight scene.
21:59 mircea_popescu lol kleeck was sio busy jacking in he forgot to save it for later jacking
21:59 Kleeck Exactly
21:59 Kleeck Must see cock slam!
21:59 Kleeck This is, by far, the strangest thing I've climbed through my browser history to find.
21:59 kakobrekla more preorder companies
21:59 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304338.0
21:59 ozbot SudoMine, LLC Distributed Computing Division
21:59 kakobrekla also poorly specified shit.
21:59 mircea_popescu kakobrekla seems bitbet will not be running out of bets.
22:00 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: so has mpex technically been hacked or can you still say, "Never been hacked"
22:00 kakobrekla also taking usd money fail
22:00 Urushiol pseudo-mine
22:00 benkay Urushiol: ding ding ding
22:00 mircea_popescu thestringpuller well i dunno, but i won't bother with it cvause it's too contentious
22:00 smickles kakobrekla: "also poorly specified shit." <like my irc email service
22:00 pankkake Kleeck: I don't remember that
22:01 thestringpuller good answer :D
22:01 mircea_popescu $email
22:01 mpexbot mircea_popescu: No new messages received.
22:01 mircea_popescu much better than my other inbox.
22:01 Kleeck I'll never be satisfied again...
22:01 Urushiol seriously though, do people not think about names when it comes to things like that? pseudo mine? peepee coin?
22:01 benkay smickles: you know it
22:01 smickles mircea_popescu: thats the service, garunteed 'inbox 0'
22:02 mircea_popescu http://3guys1movie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Cameron-DIaz-GIF-underwear.gif
22:02 mircea_popescu Kleeck ^ and repent your sinful backwards ways.
22:02 Kleeck Ugh. Cameron Diaz is so fuckin' annoying.
22:03 mod6 haha
22:03 Kleeck That .gif made me mad.
22:03 mircea_popescu what's she do, she slurp her food loudly ?
22:03 pankkake never found her attractive. though I like her in the gif
22:03 mircea_popescu she's energetic. always good.
22:03 Kleeck her whole personality needs to be destroyed.
22:03 Kleeck I don't like energetic. Not like that.
22:04 mircea_popescu you don't have a romanian datacenter which needs backup power either.
22:04 Kleeck That's true.
22:04 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 20 @ 0.0467705 = 0.9354 BTC [-] {4}
22:04 Kleeck I have an American data center that DOES have backup power. :)
22:04 mircea_popescu and backup nsa too.
22:05 Kleeck nas?
22:05 smickles lollercakes
22:05 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 7 @ 0.52204285 = 3.6543 BTC [-] {3}
22:05 smickles ;;lucky nsa
22:05 gribble http://www.nsa.gov/
22:05 ozbot Welcome to the National Security Agency - NSA/CSS
22:05 mircea_popescu CSS!!!
22:05 Kleeck national storage association
22:05 mircea_popescu omfg i knew it. I KNEW IT
22:05 Kleeck lol
22:05 mircea_popescu css did 9/11.
22:06 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2500 @ 0.00038054 = 0.9514 BTC [+] {2}
22:06 mircea_popescu that is a low quantity of price.
22:07 truffles Need Some Anal
22:07 assbot [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 495 @ 0.00499998 = 2.475 BTC [+] {2}
22:09 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3182 @ 0.00038095 = 1.2122 BTC [+] {2}
22:09 mod6 no such agency
22:10 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.00040988 = 2.0494 BTC [+] {2}
22:13 truffles they could do what they want anyways, its not like most people care
22:14 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/472/kncminer-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-october-1st/#c1497
22:14 mircea_popescu lol
22:14 ozbot BitBet - KnCMiner will deliver ASIC devices before October 1st
22:18 smickles "idempotent" < TIL
22:18 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1598 @ 0.000423 = 0.676 BTC [+]
22:18 truffles well ppl itc rly shouldnt complain about grammEr
22:21 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.00043 = 0.215 BTC [+]
22:21 truffles sick alias
22:22 Digger____ IKR
22:23 truffles 215BTC invested in this shit, who does that!!!
22:23 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1100 @ 0.0004299 = 0.4729 BTC [-] {2}
22:24 truffles "I know that he wasn't a hero member or anything, but I figured it was a safe bet, so I took it. The chance of him not paying out were factored into the odds, but I still expect him to pay out and to keep his word, unless he just scammer-bails." hmmm
22:25 truffles didnt last long rookie
22:26 smickles meanie
22:26 truffles no way, im rly nice
22:31 mircea_popescu http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2436551/A-weatherman-breaks-tears-vows-NEVER-fly-grim-climate-change-report.html
22:31 ozbot A weatherman breaks down in tears and vows NEVER to fly again due to grim climate-change report | M
22:31 mircea_popescu o look, an emo vegan wanting to get a vasectomy
22:31 mircea_popescu i'm supposed to believe this is somehow related to the weather.
22:36 mircea_popescu smickles ok, if you must : i learn that word in 7th grade, we were doing group theory.
22:36 mircea_popescu (tru story)
22:41 jcpham so apparently labcoin might be scam
22:41 kakobrekla no wai
22:41 jcpham i vote scam 100x
22:41 jcpham because it's like coinlab reverse
22:47 kakobrekla meh i did t he work for nothing, log is the bash already.
22:47 kakobrekla nothing but sarcastaball inhere
22:52 dexX7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304365.0
22:52 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 603 @ 0.000419 = 0.2527 BTC [+]
22:52 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.0099 = 0.99 BTC [+]
22:52 ozbot Collection of questions for the allegedly upcoming Labcoin Q&A session
22:55 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1897 @ 0.00042 = 0.7967 BTC [+] {2}
23:04 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2326 @ 0.00038157 = 0.8875 BTC [-] {3}
23:15 assbot [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 17 @ 0.00930282 = 0.1581 BTC [+] {2}
23:17 assbot [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 271 @ 0.00979963 = 2.6557 BTC [+] {2}
23:21 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.431 BTC [+]
23:21 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 9995 @ 0.00040993 = 4.0973 BTC [+] {6}
23:22 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 8159 @ 0.00042856 = 3.4966 BTC [+] {3}
23:27 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3046 @ 0.00042603 = 1.2977 BTC [-] {2}
23:28 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.0004202 = 2.101 BTC [-] {3}
23:29 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4716 @ 0.0004533 = 2.1378 BTC [+] {6}
23:31 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10641 @ 0.00047698 = 5.0755 BTC [+] {13}
23:41 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1234 @ 0.00043025 = 0.5309 BTC [-] {2}
23:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.47979998 BTC [+]
23:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.47979998 BTC [+]
23:52 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3000 @ 0.0004227 = 1.2681 BTC [-] {3}
23:53 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2500 @ 0.00040583 = 1.0146 BTC [-] {4}
23:59 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 9 @ 0.056 = 0.504 BTC [+]
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