#trilema | 2018-03-26

03:31

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-19#1788278 << i've discovered similar, my 3g phone barely has signal and doesn't last more than a day in san francisco. presumably because the number of 3g supporting towers is significantly lower here

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03:31

a111

Logged on 2018-03-19 15:38 asciilifeform discovered '2g shutdown'(tm)(r) the hard way -- fallback modem quit working.

~ 6 hours 36 minutes ~

10:08

mircea_popescu

https://steemit.com/introducemyself/@anonymint/introspection-interlude << in other bizarre. maybe someone point out to the dude that there's a 2 and a 5 in any 10, and since the 5 is in short supply n! will have one zero for each 5, two for each 25 and 3 for each 625, meaning 1000! will have 200 + 80 + 1.

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10:15

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mircea_popescu has seen these two, (a preoccupation with subjective mental acuity, "iq" and "energization" etc) and (complete inadherence to trivial problems, a la http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-21#930269 ) so often and repeatedly they really seem the same item.

10:15

a111

Logged on 2014-11-21 01:37 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but in the same vein of "hard problems, if you're new here", you know the two trains and fly one im sure

10:16

mircea_popescu

it's almost as if a preoccupation with the self becomes an escapist technique to deal with frustration borne of lack of experience.

10:22

mircea_popescu

re http://trilema.com/2018/the-rivers-of-blood-article-or-the-lordship-list-fifth-year/ << spyked ave1 do you even want to be l1'd ?

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10:24

mircea_popescu

aaand in other batshit, i am dissecting this system whose .mozilla directory is... 1.7GB. THREE CDS. what the fuck intricacy of prophylactic detail could possibly be stored there!

10:24

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mircea_popescu considers converting it to avi and just watching the five hours' worth.

10:26

asciilifeform

'cache' liquishit

10:26

mircea_popescu

what, it never deletes anything ?

10:26

mircea_popescu

what the fuck could a browser do with gb's worth of "cache", system has a swap. what's the swap for, so that redditards reimplement the fs in js ?

10:26

asciilifeform

ff? of course not

10:26

asciilifeform

dun free() either

10:27

mircea_popescu

basically this is immutable computering.

10:27

asciilifeform

it's 'crash-only', i.e. perlistic, kompyooting

10:28

mircea_popescu

you know, i think i published A NUMBER OF bashens that never crash. or is bash not perl ?

10:28

asciilifeform

term of art.

10:28

mircea_popescu

should be a pretty decent uni application / tech employment interview question. "explain the difference between bash and perl."

10:28

asciilifeform

recall the gc discussion . 'scripting lang is one where progy dun live long enuff to need gc'

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~ 49 minutes ~

11:18

mircea_popescu

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/ubuntu-unity-is-dead-desktop-will-switch-back-to-gnome-next-year/ << apparently even the dumbest of the dumb have known (for a year!) that "tablets" are ~dead and phones are going back to nintendo.

11:25

asciilifeform

mircea_popescu: unsurprising, considering the ~complete disappearance of pnoje iron where luser could load own soft

11:27

asciilifeform

and 'dead' is not quite how i'd describe a thing that's mostly replaced the actual comp for all of luserdom

11:27

mircea_popescu

why not ?

11:27

mircea_popescu

luserdom had no business touching computer at any sense. it's as dead today as it was in 1818.

11:27

mircea_popescu

then they also had "computers".

11:27

asciilifeform

in that sense sure.

11:28

mircea_popescu

anyway, whole point of the idiocy was "JUST LIEK STARTREK!!!" cachet.

11:28

mircea_popescu

that whole 2000s pantsuit "hopes and dreams" pie in the sky / end of history scenario took the bath of all time, and it ain't ever coming back.

11:29

mircea_popescu

there was a time, a decade or two, when pantsuit actually thought the kingdom of their father's upon us. remember that ?

11:29

mircea_popescu

("ever" is, obviously, an overstatement -- idiocy aint' about to go away. but in our lifetimes, that utopia's not showing up again.)

11:29

asciilifeform

somehow i never actually met the 'troo believers', only the cynical распил profiting folx

11:30

mircea_popescu

but you also aren't sexually promiscuous with teenagers and young adults.

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11:30

asciilifeform

i haven't even been to west usa, even.

11:30

asciilifeform

( hey phf , how is kanzureistan this time of year ? )

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11:30

mircea_popescu

pantsuit is actually more like boston than cali. imo it's an interesting case of parasitosis.

11:30

mircea_popescu

but you'd have met a lot more tru believers going 500 miles north than 5k miles west.

11:31

asciilifeform

somehow i thought they moved it west, like su moved capital to moscow from peterburg

11:32

mircea_popescu

i dunno, it's a complex matter. but my read on the whole shebang was "hey, californian dumb beach babes, this is what's good and proper, isn't it what you believe ?" "duh".

11:32

mircea_popescu

whole ideology was altogether vehehery boston methodist.

11:33

asciilifeform

right, but they did make a switch from 'salvation through prayer' to 'salvation through wunderwaffen'. and these are, nominally, made in svistan

11:34

mircea_popescu

by mit.

11:34

mircea_popescu

they are made in sf-istan by the "we are the premiere" idiots.

11:34

asciilifeform

afaik mit is already hollowed out by termites; observe that google/palantir/rest of the squid are not based in 'media lab' but in the west.

11:35

mircea_popescu

i dunno how familiar you are at all with cultural trends in that uneasy federal empire of entirely uncommunicating groups, but does eg greenspun sound cali to you AT ALL ?

11:35

mircea_popescu

asciilifeform you mean butt-based or head-based ?

11:35

mircea_popescu

i've yet to meet any of the us aspie class who aren't firmly head-based on state st.

11:36

asciilifeform

all i know is where their 'mecca', for king and slave alike, seems to be -- not in the frozen old puritanistan , but in sf

11:37

mircea_popescu

again, mecca to live or mecca to dream ?

11:37

asciilifeform

but admittedly i only have naked eye observation. i have not the first notion re what they dream.

11:38

mircea_popescu

you recall our discussion re the mechanical dragonfly, and how you proposed the eye may simply have a low pass filter find the flies ?

11:38

asciilifeform

high pass. but yes

11:38

asciilifeform

( fft + highpass )

11:38

mircea_popescu

the principle is not without merit. if you convert sufficient gb of firefox cache into avi and watch them, eventually you end up with something that convincingly argues to you it's a clue.

11:39

mircea_popescu

but i have no faith in the process.

11:41

asciilifeform

i actually did this for shitware-analysis

11:42

asciilifeform

not movie frames , of course , but still picture made from binariolade

11:42

mircea_popescu

did it pan out ?

11:42

asciilifeform

it did! pretty good means of first look, 'meat-assisted' sorting

11:42

mircea_popescu

(obviously i was using a metaphore, i don't actually do the watching as such.)

11:42

asciilifeform

ever listen to those z80 micro tapes in '80s

11:42

asciilifeform

same principle

11:43

mircea_popescu

yet consider something like http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-26#319650 : who would you say came up with "startrek folk wear pantsuits LIKE THIS" ? it's 100% a boston notion of the world and people in it.

11:43

mimisbrunnr

Logged on 2018-03-26 01:44 hanbot: mpaa sez topless grocery expentitures are illegal!

11:44

asciilifeform

hey don't we have a boston rezident ? mats ?

11:44

mircea_popescu

somehow, notwithstanding how san fernando valley dominated hollywood for half of the 80s and most of the 90s, the mpaa still reflects "the movie industry" views of state st, rather than either hollywood or porn valley.

11:44

mircea_popescu

heck, they're even dekulakizing producers these days!

11:45

asciilifeform

the entertaining part will be act-2 of that play

11:45

mircea_popescu

imagine the absurdity, a producer losing his job for fucking women unasked!

11:45

asciilifeform

i.e. when they start installing the ideologically-correct replacement producers

11:45

mircea_popescu

banker losing job for not having girlfriend, when ?

11:45

mircea_popescu

asciilifeform no, they're already there. have been, for decade+. you should see the shitheads doing the "mega franchises", jesus fuck i wouldn't have the misery in my house.

11:46

mircea_popescu

it starts with "i don't drink alcohol." once you hear that, you know what you're dealing with pretty much.

11:47

asciilifeform

mircea_popescu: is there a detectable ideological line in the producer purges ? what did e.g. weinstein make , and what is his 'replacement' making ?

11:48

mircea_popescu

just look at the top gross, it's a fine indicator. #1 is kevin feige. iron man and urolagnia of the sort.

11:49

asciilifeform

... or is it moar of a general-purpose 'workout', a la stalin's generals, i.e. 'yes guess what, generals are removable'

11:49

mircea_popescu

#2 is kathleen kennedy. soccer mom of the star wars.

11:49

mircea_popescu

#3 is do i need to go on ? bruckheimer, the fucktard behind pirates of the whatever. at least he's an alcoholic.

11:49

mircea_popescu

and on it goes, that's about 10bn there.

11:51

mircea_popescu

(and they're complete pushovers, too -- take neal moritz adopting the vin diesel look for chrissakes. these are people ?!)

11:52

mircea_popescu

then there's that heyman faggot with the harry potter crapolade... there's seriously not a fucking human being among them.

11:52

mircea_popescu

the x-men chick... jesus.

11:52

mircea_popescu

ima go throw up.

12:06

mircea_popescu

anyway. boston managed to make "the defining question" be "what does america want to see ?" and then managed to convince the midwest that what california people think is hip is bostonolade ; then took those numbers and showed california that "what america wants to see!!" is bostonolade.

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12:07

mircea_popescu

which is how come a) "oh, we have the dumb flickering plastic from star trek!!!" is somehow supposed to be a pillar of faith supporting the pantsuit money printing press ; while b) nobody fucking notices that the ~only item of any value whatsoever in the whole franchise was marina sirtis' ass, and they still don't get to see that, much like there's no jane russell porn.

12:08

mircea_popescu

worse waste of human potential can scarcely be devised, ffs.

12:09

mircea_popescu

anyway. if there ever is to be any progress, boston is to be cleaved from its support structures.

12:22

mircea_popescu

(meanwhile, because the republic's better than the empire : http://videocelebs.net/marina-sirtis-nude-glynis-barber-nude-faye-dunaway-nude-lisa-mulidore-nude-the-wicked-lady-1983.html )

12:28

mircea_popescu

much like in the case of say showgirls, the pantsuit "public oppinion" panned the wicked lady, speaking of course with the usual pretense of ex-cathedra "everyone agrees" and http://trilema.com/2018/memoranda-of-congress/#selection-159.15-161.0 nonsense. nevertheless it's an infinitely better movie than all the retarded crap they gush over. i'd take it every time over crap like "mandy" (aka "clash of silence", the 1952 waste

12:28

mircea_popescu

of reel they gave the palme d'or to) and so on.

12:33

asciilifeform

re 'bostonism of star trek', i recall reading that it is ~officially~ a plot point, that the starship had no toilet. erryone shits in pants, and it is teleported out. this is automatically what i think of when hear 'star trek'

12:33

asciilifeform

and there is something very harvardian about it.

12:34

mircea_popescu

lmao why wait for the shitting, why not selectively teleport out of colon ?

12:34

asciilifeform

i dun recall if it was told, which.

12:34

mircea_popescu

might even have anus removed, make some really great futurecitizens

12:34

asciilifeform

but the basic idea.

12:34

mircea_popescu

"you can't even shit without us"

12:34

asciilifeform

right, that's exactly it.

12:34

asciilifeform

and they would, betcha, if they could.

12:34

mircea_popescu

i expect it's where it's headed. already produced vast herds of dependent idiots who 100% couldn't feed self without the empire.

12:36

asciilifeform

how else can there ever even be any empire. ( yer skin cells can't feed themselves outside of the skin either )

12:36

mircea_popescu

asciilifeform but the most pantsuit part of this story is what they left out. WHERE is it teleported TO ? does the ship leave droppings, like mice ?

12:36

mircea_popescu

http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-2-14#303288 << pantsuit progress, today as in stardate whatever.

12:36

mimisbrunnr

Logged on 2018-02-14 14:18 mircea_popescu: MEANWHILE, however, they have 100% unaccounted for the time externality. so basically it's a contest consisting of a guy without legs going about finding fault with people's fingers. because he's decided "legs don't count", and so as he has much better hands than the rest of those losers he should be captain of the football team.

12:36

asciilifeform

would have to ask an aficionado. but iirc the notion was, they sort the atoms by element and stack up for... kitchen

12:37

mircea_popescu

if so, why even bother with travel at all.

12:37

asciilifeform

iirc orig one was 'to find fuckable green humanoids' or the like

12:38

asciilifeform

very 1960s-flavoured

12:38

mircea_popescu

could just stack kitchen appliances into fuckable shape...

12:48

BingoBoingo

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-26#1789695 << Speaking of, Peru sounds very promising for Gringos who like their girls short

12:48

a111

Logged on 2018-03-26 15:30 mircea_popescu: but you also aren't sexually promiscuous with teenagers and young adults.

12:48

BingoBoingo

<mircea_popescu> asciilifeform but the most pantsuit part of this story is what they left out. WHERE is it teleported TO ? does the ship leave droppings, like mice ? << To the kitchen naturally, recycling

12:57

mircea_popescu

in other lulz from the nursery, "stereotypes are bad" "isn't that a stereotype ?"

12:59

BingoBoingo

lol

13:12

deedbot

http://qntra.net/2018/03/pantsuit-disarmament-march-eclipsed-in-popular-headlines-by-opposition-from-musicians-killa-mike-and-bataclan-survivor-jesse-hughes-call-for-sanity/ << Qntra - Pantsuit Disarmament March Eclipsed In Popular Headlines By Opposition From Musicians: Killa Mike And Bataclan Survivor Jesse Hughes Call For Sanity

13:13

mircea_popescu

lol!

13:13

mircea_popescu

BingoBoingo yound ?

13:13

BingoBoingo

fxd

13:14

mircea_popescu

so much win. nice to have the herald around again!\

13:14

BingoBoingo

tyvm

13:14

BingoBoingo

A couple other typos spotted an killed

13:18

BingoBoingo

And so that it is entered into the record, Killer Mike is a rapper beloved by black people and nearly unknown by the category of people who consider themselves "cucked white allies"

13:18

mircea_popescu

point in case, i never heard o' him.

13:19

mircea_popescu

then again the only black rapper i could name is the real slim shady.

13:20

trinque

BingoBoingo: *chopping off

13:20

BingoBoingo

ty fxd

13:21

trinque

good stuff. guess I'll have to listen to some eagles of death metal now.

13:21

mircea_popescu

is that a rapper ?

13:21

BingoBoingo

mircea_popescu: That's the rock band of the guys who survived the moslem concert massacre in paris

13:21

mircea_popescu

a

13:22

BingoBoingo

Anyways, trends seems to be pantsuits losing pop culture

13:22

mircea_popescu

"discovering they never owned"

13:24

BingoBoingo

In other pantsuit failures "I wanted to tear my hair out. HOW CAN YOUR RACE NOT BE THE BIGGEST PART OF WHO YOU ARE, I wanted to scream. DO YOU NOT KNOW YOUR HISTORY? WHY WILL YOU NOT LET ME TEACH YOU?" >> "Would it have been different if I was black rather than brown?"

13:24

BingoBoingo

From https://www.insidehighered.com/blogs/conversations-diversity/how-far-should-i-go-get-you-%E2%80%98woke%E2%80%99

~ 29 minutes ~

13:54

mircea_popescu

it won't load ; and archive fails with "assertion failed"

13:55

BingoBoingo

did that for me too, short of it is loser kid bothered that high achieving black kid wanted nothing to do with his movement

13:55

mircea_popescu

heh

13:56

mircea_popescu

all that carefully crafted tower of narcisism and self-absorbtion (they prefer to call it "intellectual property")! how cruel and unfair that the world doesn't give a damn!

13:56

mircea_popescu

RAGEEE

13:56

BingoBoingo

http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/1ICyR/?raw=true

13:57

BingoBoingo

^ Ah, bonus I didn't notice until pasting the text. Author's name is PATEL!!! A wild PREEET

13:58

BingoBoingo

"I credit that group with creating my identity consciousness. Before that, I was a brown kid that wanted to be white. Eusa Nia (Swahili for Black Purpose) got me."

13:59

mircea_popescu

so now he's a scumbag who's trying to eat out of getting people to be colors ?

13:59

mircea_popescu

progress.

14:00

mircea_popescu

why the fuck are all the wiggers so enamoured with swahili anyway ? there's actual languages in africa.

14:00

mircea_popescu

swahili isn't one of them.

14:00

BingoBoingo

Like Dutch!

14:01

BingoBoingo

<mircea_popescu> swahili isn't one of them. << Swahili's the one Soviet allies in US academia were directed to, likely because not a language

14:01

mircea_popescu

whole lotta "france got me! i'm a phrancophone! i only eat at French's diner in wisconsin."

14:03

mircea_popescu

BingoBoingo kinda arabic-lite, for the 80iq-ish folk.

14:03

mircea_popescu

that's the other thing : if they're so fucking enamoured with it, why the fuck are they torturing it with latin notation ?!

14:03

BingoBoingo

Ah, a sort of Dominican-Spanish

14:04

mircea_popescu

more like the east azn english pigdins

14:05

BingoBoingo

Ah

14:06

BingoBoingo

That's kinda what I understand Dominican Spanish to be. I kind of have an overview of Immigration to Uruguay post half baked in my head. Need to sit down and shove it through the keyboard.

14:06

BingoBoingo

Not a process post, but a who is coming in post.

14:06

asciilifeform

how come nobody signs up to learn, say, igbo, native tongue of the illustrious prince419mbwembwembwe...

14:07

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asciilifeform was actually assigned it in last yr of linguistics at uni. remembers today : 0

14:07

mircea_popescu

asciilifeform they just like it for the usual exam-taking reasons, it's possibly the least different from english thing out there.

14:07

mircea_popescu

amusingly, lcd languages forced by the needs of commerce end up ~same.

14:11

BingoBoingo

<mircea_popescu> amusingly, lcd languages forced by the needs of commerce end up ~same. << This heruistic collapses neatly to the English language used locally, strictly the subset needed by Brasileros and Uruguayos to do commerce.

14:19

asciilifeform

eng. linguists used to call 'lcd language' , a 'pidgin' ( not to be confused with the homophonic bird ) , but iirc this term is now pantsuit-verboten

14:19

asciilifeform

phunphakt, even decade++ ago, asciilifeform nearly came to blows with pantsuit-professor over elementary fact that some languages considerably less expressive, esp in re civilized approach to philosophy, than others

14:20

asciilifeform

the new Official truth was already being enacted.

14:24

BingoBoingo

Hey, I was shocked when I found out the Yumbo Cargo is a factory model and not a local hack http://archive.is/nJ1ML

14:25

BingoBoingo

Upon arrival "Look at that chop job, a motorcycle with a truck bed"

14:25

BingoBoingo

After more time and more seen in the wild, Ah, the chicoms SELL these things here already configured thusly

~ 16 minutes ~

14:42

mircea_popescu

asciilifeform so what, all languages can bear shakespeare ? jamaican y compris ?

14:42

asciilifeform

according to these monkeys

14:42

asciilifeform

dun ask me how.

14:43

mircea_popescu

heh.

14:43

mircea_popescu

http://trilema.com/2016/there-has-not-yet-been-seen-a-simple-thing-even-if-were-drowning-in-simple-people/

14:45

mircea_popescu

BingoBoingo the chinese are the ultimate body shop ppls.

14:49

BingoBoingo

mircea_popescu: Seriously. Their dominance of the vehicle market here is astounding. Yumbo, Baccio, Geely. And so damn many polleritas (underbone motorcycles)

~ 28 minutes ~

15:18

lobbes

mircea_popescu: 'logs.minigame.bz' no longer seems to resolve to '192.121.170.137' (at least on my end)

15:18

lobbes

actually, for that matter 'http://minigame.bz/' no longer resolves for me either O.o

15:27

mircea_popescu

uh

15:30

mircea_popescu

myeah, server's gone.

15:30

mircea_popescu

asciilifeform when was your flight over to paraguay ?

15:35

asciilifeform

shopping for it atm actually

15:35

asciilifeform

and uru-

15:35

asciilifeform

rather than para-

15:35

mircea_popescu

a yea

15:35

asciilifeform

( anybody been to para- ? what's it like ? )

15:35

mircea_popescu

bout same

15:36

mircea_popescu

lobbes ima put it in the mar report ; but the short story is, server i supposedly bought in feb still not here by late march, minigame dun have a server now.

15:37

mircea_popescu

data is backup-ed. as to when back online... well... talk to these people.

15:41

BingoBoingo

<asciilifeform> ( anybody been to para- ? what's it like ? ) << From what I hear much hotter and poorer. It is the lawless land where Uruguayos go for cheap vacations.

15:41

asciilifeform

hotter from lack of sea ?

15:41

BingoBoingo

Yeah

15:42

BingoBoingo

They have a fairly important river, but more like the Mississippi and less of a wide "is this a river or sea" thing like the Rio de la Plata

15:43

BingoBoingo

And when the US was having its civil war Brasil, Argentina, and Uruguay went into Paraguay and fucked their shit up as a bonding experience.

15:46

BingoBoingo

From about 1800 through 1880 there's some interesting history in this region. And then the Italians came.

15:47

mircea_popescu

heh.

~ 16 minutes ~

16:04

mircea_popescu

asciilifeform let me know when you've bought ; gotta stamp diana_coman 's vacation form.

16:04

diana_coman

lol!

16:04

mircea_popescu

all right an' proper like a real corp over here.

16:05

diana_coman

you stamp it, I stomp it ; will find someone to chew it too

~ 1 hours 4 minutes ~

17:10

phf

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-26#1789697 << not as hot as palm springs (which is full blown summer at this point), but basically spring. it was raining last week, but right now it's a shirt weather. if you're close to the ocean, then it's blowing cold wind. what i'm trying to say is that the weather is excellent, and i'm loathing going back to the swamps.

17:10

a111

Logged on 2018-03-26 15:30 asciilifeform: ( hey phf , how is kanzureistan this time of year ? )

17:14

phf

i took a long walk over sf hills, and wanted to take an ocean dip at the end, but the last 15km on the way to the ocean were on flats, with a piercing cold wind. i was cold wearing a shirt and a sweater, so no swimming, but still it was a pleasant walk. there's really nothing bad to say about the weather here.

~ 28 minutes ~

17:42

BingoBoingo

asciilifeform: And we are solidly in autumn temperatures. Short sleeves are fine during the day, jacket may be desirable at night. The wind is starting to get a little bit of bite.

~ 1 hours 22 minutes ~

19:05

deedbot

http://qntra.net/2018/03/europol-arrests-unnamed-man-for-politely-persuading-eurobanks-to-part-with-cash/ << Qntra - Europol Arrests Unnamed Man For Politely Persuading Eurobanks To Part With Cash

~ 3 hours 25 minutes ~

22:30

mircea_popescu

asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/RGqSt/?raw=true

22:39

mircea_popescu

in other proceedings, i met hanbot for drinks at the blue marlin (local brothel), where we watched teen hussies duke it out. literally : uconn beat the shit out of south carolina (all black girls, for maximum lulz. a tall lanky one even cried!).

22:41

mircea_popescu

i taught her a lesson in handicapping of magnificent splendour rarely seen : halfway through last quarter, the score being 80 (to 40 something) i asked her whether they clear 94. no way. she bet me, and well...

22:43

mircea_popescu

betting can make anything interesting.

~ 42 minutes ~

23:25

mircea_popescu

!!up douchebag

23:25

deedbot

douchebag voiced for 30 minutes.

23:26

douchebag