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00:14 deedbot http://www.contravex.com/2017/12/10/why-cme-and-cboe-bitcoin-futures-arent-important-and-dont-matter/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Why CME and CBOE bitcoin futures arent important and dont matter.
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05:20 RagnarDanneskjol nice one Pete
05:21 RagnarDanneskjol mircea_popescu I have a couple of translators sorting out their IRCs today and should be present within the next 24 hrs or so. I've only done some basic screening - they are all native Chinese, speak English well enough and are available to do translation work. Besides speaking to them, I have NOT gone through any further process of elimination - ie. collected writing samples to have compared, etc.
05:21 RagnarDanneskjol Don't know if you already have anyone in place for comparing/assessing outputs.. In the past I've used colleagues in Beijing to help screen candidate writing samples (cause I don't read or speak Ornamental). I'm happy to have someone do the same if it helps. Otherwise, will just let you take over from here.
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07:31 BingoBoingo <deedbot> http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ << Trilema - Of ducks and lameness << Awe, mircea_popescu tries BingoBoingo style exploration
07:31 BingoBoingo Mega pictures incoming
07:35 shinohai Buenas Dias Sr. BingoBoingo
07:35 BingoBoingo Buen dia shinohai
07:36 BingoBoingo Que tal?
07:40 BingoBoingo So, on Sundays Montevideo does get very sleepy. Except for the ferias!
07:49 shinohai Glad Bb is adjusting to his new climes.
07:51 shinohai Please to check out http://divas.com.uy/es/sex-clubs.html and let me know if worth visiting.
07:55 BingoBoingo In time. I am still map building my local environment and extending it out of Pocitos and Buceo. These boots were made for walking.
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08:16 asciilifeform in other noose, asciilifeform found the seekrit of realtek nic init
08:16 asciilifeform !#s realtek
08:16 a111 41 results for "realtek", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=realtek
08:18 BingoBoingo Bueno!
08:20 deedbot http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/12/11/el-primero-domingo-en-montevideo-for-the-midwestern-rube/ << Bingo Blog - El Primero Domingo En Montevideo For The Midwestern Rube
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08:27 BingoBoingo So, as I intensify the abogado search, are there any lord who would like to take on the responsibility of handling TBI responsibilities should something "nailgun" happen to El Gringo Bingo? mircea_popescu? shinohai? ben_vulpes? Anyone else in L1?
08:28 mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol cool.
08:29 shinohai BingoBoingo: TBI ?
08:29 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo what's tbi ?
08:29 shinohai [desire to know intensifies]
08:29 mircea_popescu lol
08:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform o wow!
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08:30 mircea_popescu dude, the more you get oppressed, the more you get productive. ima hire pro dommes to come to your house and insult your manhood.
08:30 mircea_popescu circle the block in those silly slut jeeps, cropped tops and loudspeakers.
08:33 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo what's tbi ? << The working name of The Boingo ISP
08:33 mircea_popescu aaand in other "curse of the ukr chick" news, temp here dropped to a very cool 15 over the past coupla days. HOW DO YOU LIKE MY MILD NAO, BEOTCH!
08:34 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you have this newfound penchant for vagueness. NOT "is there anyone willing to be involved in transactions" but YES "can anyone lend me five bux".
08:35 mircea_popescu NOT "did you ever consider venera's wings could take a turn most material" but YES "wanna come back to my place ?"
08:35 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: If USG.blue were to off me, is there anyone who would want to take over or wind down the venture, or is this not the time to discuss continuity?
08:35 mircea_popescu nobody's fucking offing you.
08:35 BingoBoingo Ok
08:36 mircea_popescu even cheap bullets are like 50 cents each. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-29#1473356 is like $15 a pop.
08:36 a111 Logged on 2016-05-29 20:10 mircea_popescu: still, stuff like the raufoss mk211 is the exact pill for "oh, we're armored". orly ? well done, so the round won't blow clear through you! enjoy zirconium fire in your spleen!
08:36 BingoBoingo I suspected as much when I made it to Montevideo instead of Guantanamo.
08:39 shinohai Careful BingoBoingo it may be a carefully crafted 3-D simulation.
08:40 BingoBoingo I don't think USG can simulate the smell of cannabis smoke, however the Brazilians here for the "expo cannabis" are departing either for home or Punta del Este
08:42 BingoBoingo In other news, the Brazilians at the hostel are easily impressed. One of the guys staying there was local actor with an IMDB profile, but el gringo had the ability to enjoy the cool night air shirtless.
08:43 mircea_popescu not like making an imdb profile takes more than ten minutes.
08:45 asciilifeform wasn't ben_vulpes's chix a 'imdb-profiled' notable ?
08:45 BingoBoingo Eh, there were some film credits there. The German girl was impressed by the credits, but did not look as good as the Brazilain girls. Maybe if the German girl was from 10-20 years ago she could compete against the locals and the Brazillians? Today, no.
08:46 mircea_popescu on the strength of http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ all rthose chicks are imdb-notable.
08:46 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749334 << found, to be clear, archaeologically, from the rdos thing, rather han from clever reversing
08:46 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 13:29 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o wow!
08:47 asciilifeform *than from
08:47 mircea_popescu ah.
08:47 mircea_popescu still...
08:47 asciilifeform so nao canhaz e.g. 'packet processor in asm on pcengines' and similar items from old threads.
08:48 mircea_popescu aha
08:48 asciilifeform ( pcengines apu1 is ~the~ x86 fiddling platform as it has the magic sage port )
08:49 mircea_popescu ya
08:49 BingoBoingo Also anyone want to come to Montevideo and hang out, drop off some servers? Apparently you have until March before the weather turns London-esque.
08:50 asciilifeform in other noose, turned up that the pilot opterons in asciilifeform's torture room have a disappointing onboard raid that supports only sata2 (3Gb/s). upgrading'em with sata3 raidtrons (6Gb/s)
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10:17 mats you have to pay to get on imdb anyways
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10:22 mats asciilifeform: what sata3 raid card are you using?
10:26 asciilifeform mats: 3ware . ( afaik nobody else has ever made an iron raid that worked half a shit's worth )
10:27 mats has anyone documented it?
10:27 asciilifeform mats: more specifically ?
10:27 mats the 3ware sata3 card
10:28 asciilifeform document means what ? i've been using'em in gentoo boxes for decade+, fwiw.
10:28 asciilifeform or is mats asking whether anyone's reversed the thing down to transistor ? or wat
10:28 mats latter
10:28 asciilifeform afaik not it, and not any other disk controller either
10:28 asciilifeform or for that matter disk
10:29 asciilifeform or southbridge. or or or.
10:29 mats ok ok
10:29 asciilifeform nobody's properly reversed damn near anything
10:29 asciilifeform ( not, at any rate, publicly . )
10:32 mats do you have a gentoo recipe for apu1?
10:32 asciilifeform mats: not specifically. it's a standard opteron, with the exception of no vga. ( use serial console. )
10:33 asciilifeform and given as it uses linuxbios (coreboot) exclusively ( there was in fact no turdware bios afaik ever released for'em at all ) it makes it inviting to stuff the kernel into rom
10:33 asciilifeform but it isn't mandatory.
10:34 asciilifeform unless yer kernel is monstrously fat ( and why would it be ) -- it'll sit down in the rom.
10:34 mats any reading materials on how i can do that?
10:34 asciilifeform do which
10:34 mats stuffing kernel into rom
10:34 asciilifeform there is ( or was ? ) a tarball on the vendor's www.
10:35 asciilifeform oh hah it's gone innit.
10:35 asciilifeform i'ma have to clean up and genesis mine. pretty heavy chore, it is full of extraneous matter.
10:36 asciilifeform if yer getting an apu1, mats , go straight for the apu1d4 .
10:36 asciilifeform and ideally get several, they are getting scarce.
10:37 mats i have two on my desk, been toying with centos on it
10:37 asciilifeform http://pcengines.ch/howto.htm#coreboot << found it.
10:38 asciilifeform mats: didja solder in the sage header ?
10:39 mats its on the to-do list
10:40 mats i have two gizmo1 kits also
10:40 asciilifeform those are usable out-of-the-box
10:41 asciilifeform ( you gotta cure the probes, naturally, with sage_pill . but no soldering needed )
10:42 mats lots going on for mats, i'm trying to make my way to .tw within a year, then hk. futzing with student visa right now
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10:42 asciilifeform neato
10:42 shinohai neat mats :)\
10:43 BingoBoingo mats: Do you know where you DON'T need a visa?
10:50 danielpbarron !!balance
10:50 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WcbTD/?raw=true
10:54 mats BingoBoingo: .uy ?
10:55 danielpbarron !!withdraw 0.5 19d9wv2iKiMZMDkFMbeLg1SwC7nQNoxnHd
10:55 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Gm25F/?raw=true
10:56 BingoBoingo mats: Si
10:58 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
10:59 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 16300.0, vol: 16236.10809696 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 16317.0, vol: 82186.68268852 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 16500.0, vol: 4624.69923118 | Volume-weighted last average: 16322.5344009
10:59 BingoBoingo And the crashing resumes
11:04 danielpbarron BingoBoingo, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/j4d0e/?raw=true
11:04 asciilifeform in related lulz, https://archive.is/B8lQp << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193376
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11:04 a111 Logged on 2015-07-08 17:08 mircea_popescu: mod6 "our free market is this thing you can only buy!!1"
11:05 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Ack, good luck and best wishes
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11:50 BingoBoingo In other annecdotes people The most popular 1st guess of my nationalty by the locals is Brazilian which is followed by English.
11:51 BingoBoingo Usually I have to volunteer Soy de estados unidos. Most locals appear to be unfamiliar with the term estadounidense
11:52 BingoBoingo But recognize estados unidos
11:52 shinohai Throw in a few hue's and br's to confuse them.
12:00 phf BingoBoingo: you just need to wear one of those texan cowboy hats
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12:00 BingoBoingo Brazilian seems to be their default guess for foreigners that aren't obviously Argentine
12:01 BingoBoingo phf: They may confuse it with a panama hat. For a nominally latin country I am somehow more tan on the exposed areas of my skin than many of the local adult males.
12:02 phf same with me, like most slavs, after about a week of sun, i bronze
12:03 BingoBoingo I redden and then it shifts to brown
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12:03 phf yeap
12:05 BingoBoingo The local men range from ghastly pale to light brown with some outliers at the african end of the spectrum. The local women range from olive or slightly tanned to medium roast coffee with fairly even gradient distribution so far observed.
12:07 BingoBoingo The closest site to US urbania so far were some terrified dominican tourists and their scared ~10 year old child decked out in "thug chainz"
12:09 BingoBoingo For other gringos contemplating travel to Montevideo, so far in my experience voseo has not been a big deal. However my ears are still adjusting to yeshimo.
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12:31 lobbes Mientras tanto en Nueva York: https://archive.is/w0qpH
12:34 lobbes And in archive news, Archivierungsprozess chugs on, albiet slowly. roughly 30k historical urls zipped so far. In addition, everything posted in chan since nov 8 has also been zipped
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12:35 trinque pretty cool lobbes
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12:58 lobbes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749425 << I have always been envious of "normal" skin like this. I'm a ginger, so my skin has only two states: ultra-white and "lobster"
12:58 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 17:03 BingoBoingo: I redden and then it shifts to brown
12:58 * lobbes when 18, visited DR with Dominican co-workers at the time. Forgot to reapply sunscreen after entering ocean one afternoon. Skin was peeling and oozing for ~2 weeks afterwards
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13:00 BingoBoingo Mine rarely gets that bad, worst case it stays red longer before brownshift. Except for the solar concentrator that appears to be my nose. That can blister.
13:03 lobbes Oya. Nose and ear-tips. For some reason my forearms can take more solar abuse. Closest thing to 'tan' I can achieve is on arms
13:07 BingoBoingo Lol, yeah. The shirt covered area is still pale, but it did not detract from how impressed the Brazilian girls of were with my magic gringo power of tolerating ~15 C temperatures on the bare skin
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13:10 shinohai "Discovered" http://archive.is/oflnp
13:11 asciilifeform shinohai: see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-11#1654582
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13:11 a111 Logged on 2017-05-11 17:35 asciilifeform: meanwhile, https://archive.is/83lMS >> HP winblowz boxen, turns out, ship with keylogger in sound card driver.
13:12 asciilifeform not that 1 more, or 1 less trojan is particularly meaningful on a microshit box
13:14 asciilifeform ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-15#1238626 and elsewhere. subj beaten entirely to death. )
13:14 a111 Logged on 2015-08-15 15:31 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1238595 << when boiling the proverbial frog, when it gets cooked enough you can just turn up the heat to whatever. srsly, they included a keylogger and admitted to it. why should they not also rape you in every other possible hole, and drill new ones as desired ?
13:18 shinohai The tireless potcoin advocate, perhaps the US' only hope to avoid total nuclear annihilation http://archive.is/jKcNb
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14:29 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749365 << ya but it's like twennybux
14:29 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 15:17 mats: you have to pay to get on imdb anyways
14:30 BingoBoingo That's like 2 something awfuls!!!
14:30 mircea_popescu lol. about what it's worth too
14:31 mats the page blurb i read about ‘imdb pro’ suggested 150/yr
14:32 mats not bad i guess
14:32 mircea_popescu a miliwife.
14:32 mircea_popescu you know, like milimorts. except in terms of pointless expenditure.
14:33 asciilifeform 'that battleship! 500GWives'
14:34 mircea_popescu aha.
14:39 BingoBoingo In other news, the locals in my immediate meatspace are lagging on lists of sane abogados. However, contact with local accounting firms is yeilding replies.
14:40 mircea_popescu cut through the gringo fleecing zone, and the quicker the better.
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14:41 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749400 << are they of the people who actually give a shit ?
14:41 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 15:42 mats: lots going on for mats, i'm trying to make my way to .tw within a year, then hk. futzing with student visa right now
14:41 BingoBoingo Meeting up with some venezualan girls tonight who also do the small business thing.
14:41 mircea_popescu nb.
14:41 BingoBoingo Also for spanish lessons from my fellow economic refugees.
14:43 BingoBoingo Hopefully the end of the "expo cannabis" means more interesting travelers begin passing through the hostel.
14:43 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749414 << in related lulz, CBOE scores just around bitcointalk-level "entreprise", entirely unmatcing mpex historical performance.
14:43 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 16:04 asciilifeform: in related lulz, https://archive.is/B8lQp << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193376
14:43 mircea_popescu not that they perceive their obligation to actually come here on hands and knees after this utter failure to mean or matter.
14:44 mircea_popescu anyway, prong two of that poisoned caltrop, where "but wait, futures AGAINST WHAT PRICE SIGNAL" hasn't even landed yet.
14:44 mircea_popescu i bet 100% of those involved with promoting the idiocy are lawyers, because watch out when the suing starts.
14:46 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749421 << then they'll think he's jackychanense
14:46 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 17:00 phf: BingoBoingo: you just need to wear one of those texan cowboy hats
14:47 * BingoBoingo ended up getting a local style maybeleather/maybevinyl hat
14:47 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: as far as i can see , linked turd is entirely 'hey let's try and make paper-btc the way we did paper-au' usg gambit
14:47 * BingoBoingo will probably end up slicing it up for flame testing
14:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform evidently.
14:48 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: surely you can tell leather from vinyl with naked eye / finger
14:48 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo dumbass hat went away from me today. so i ran after it and fucking stomped it. bitch.
14:48 mircea_popescu i guess ima be buying a new hat.
14:48 asciilifeform today we learn mircea_popescu does not wear a chapeau claque!111
14:49 mircea_popescu lol
14:49 mircea_popescu i do not wear mechanisms on my head.
14:49 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: One would think, superficial observation suggests thing leather, but the price anywhere else in the world suggest vinyl
14:49 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: asciilifeform came back from ro with some astonishingly decent fur hats.
14:50 asciilifeform ( from what animal ? who can say. but -- natural product. )
14:50 mircea_popescu why astonishing ? they do furs well.
14:50 asciilifeform astonishing price.
14:51 mircea_popescu ah. nah, fair.
14:52 mircea_popescu furs are only expensive if the pantsuits are trying to sell their polyester.
14:52 asciilifeform let's say, 2-3x cheaper than similar item in usa, supposing one knew where in usa one could even find it.
14:55 asciilifeform in other lulz, ffa series has been very, very, well... loaded? ( 'read' is not the word, i have nfi if anybody other than apeloyee read it )
14:56 BingoBoingo lol
14:56 mircea_popescu lol
14:56 asciilifeform incidentally folx: each of you who considers himself 'graduate' of an ffa chapter, consider signing
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14:56 mircea_popescu what's to read, it's just code, right ?
14:56 * BingoBoingo slowly working on read, but each read is likely to take ~100 loads
14:56 asciilifeform read, nitpick aggressively, build and run
14:57 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo don't do that, you have shit to do.
14:57 asciilifeform do the exercises ( where i marked 'if you do not fully get this, get out a notebook and pencil ' etc 0
14:57 asciilifeform )
14:58 * asciilifeform is addressing this mainly to folx who ~already~ took the time.
14:58 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Slowly in this context means read title, skim, and scribble reminder that post exists in next year's calendar
14:58 mircea_popescu aha
14:59 BingoBoingo reading mostly limited atm to logs, Trilema proper, informaccion de Uruguay, y mas material en Espanol.
14:59 mats oh yeah, small island nation
14:59 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749431 << this live anywhere, or not jetzt ?
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14:59 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 17:34 lobbes: And in archive news, Archivierungsprozess chugs on, albiet slowly. roughly 30k historical urls zipped so far. In addition, everything posted in chan since nov 8 has also been zipped
15:00 BingoBoingo <mats> oh yeah, small island nation << Also azn, so they care about trivia. Latinos however only care about pretense of the trivia and stand down when ignored.
15:00 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749435 << this is because you have no souls!
15:00 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 17:58 lobbes when 18, visited DR with Dominican co-workers at the time. Forgot to reapply sunscreen after entering ocean one afternoon. Skin was peeling and oozing for ~2 weeks afterwards
15:01 diana_coman asciilifeform, fwiw I read it as in went through it line by line and with pencil and paper; ran it too at the end, played a bit around with tests and that; and since we are at this, nitpick: in FZ_Swap why T:=X if already initialised at declaration or what am I missing of Ada in there?
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15:01 asciilifeform oh hey diana_coman
15:01 * asciilifeform looks
15:01 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lulz of all time, a while back : cop pulls over, asks driver if she knows what the speed limit is. before she can answer i ask him if he knows the way to so and so, which he proceeds to explain. we... leave.
15:01 asciilifeform diana_coman: you're quite right!!
15:02 asciilifeform diana_coman: the useless line will be thrown out, and diana_coman will be credited in the next mailbag.
15:02 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I have given so many people directions over the weekend. Primarily... Delivery drivers.
15:02 asciilifeform eagle eye.
15:02 mircea_popescu lol!
15:03 asciilifeform diana_coman: this is why it's mighty great when folx actually read
15:03 BingoBoingo Typically moto with rubbermaid storage container strapped to the back pulls up, hails me from a clearly not thief distance and requests directions.
15:03 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749438 << dis guy.
15:03 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 18:07 BingoBoingo: Lol, yeah. The shirt covered area is still pale, but it did not detract from how impressed the Brazilian girls of were with my magic gringo power of tolerating ~15 C temperatures on the bare skin
15:04 mircea_popescu next time, tell 'em a girl can't be cold if her concha's functioning properly.
15:04 diana_coman asciilifeform, glad to help, even this tiny bit
15:05 mircea_popescu taking a line out is the largest non-tiny bit ; after taking two lines out.
15:05 asciilifeform diana_coman: a useless line cut out, is not a small bit, it is a serious contribution .
15:05 asciilifeform ^^^
15:05 mircea_popescu TOOLATE :D
15:05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu has it.
15:05 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I'll have to try that the next windy night
15:10 asciilifeform meanwhile, in trilemalottery, http://trilema.com/2014/the-complexity-of-life-a-triad/#comment-123868
15:10 mircea_popescu trilema articles. ARE ETERNAL.
15:11 asciilifeform sorta the point of writing, neh
15:11 mircea_popescu yeh.
15:17 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749440 << saw a civillian windows machine earlier today, it was a show! two different antiviri, firefox took ~5 minutes to load a page, went dark 5 times in the interval, it was something else.
15:17 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 18:11 asciilifeform: shinohai: see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-11#1654582
15:17 asciilifeform sounds typical
15:18 asciilifeform betcha every keypress sprouts packets, too
15:19 mircea_popescu oh in other lulz : so the whole "$metoo" charade finally came to conclusion, now that us needs un to mediate korea suddenly usg.blue main gal at un is derping about how "$metoo was all about trying to get trump" ?
15:20 asciilifeform !#s metoo
15:20 a111 14 results for "metoo", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=metoo
15:20 mircea_popescu you know, usg politruks trying to abuse the legal system to harass males for no reason.
15:24 asciilifeform aaa
15:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform he has a point, FZ_Neg is nonsense.
15:30 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: definitely point. it's getting renamed in next ch.
15:30 asciilifeform FZ_Not
15:30 mircea_popescu v fucking rocks dunnit.
15:31 asciilifeform ffa series is as much a course in vtronics, as in arithmetics.
15:31 asciilifeform ( i deliberately made no effort to help vless savages , this time, with ready-made tarballs or the like )
15:36 asciilifeform relatedly, https://archive.is/Wnavt << heathen comments preserved in amber.
15:41 lobbes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749504 << not yet. My current idea is to post a plaintext list of all zipped urls on my www. People can curl/grep what they are interested in and submit either a list of urls or a single url to lobbesbot via !Qarchive and then be sent a download link.
15:41 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 19:59 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749431 << this live anywhere, or not jetzt ?
15:41 lobbes I'll add the aggregate 'filesize' of the zips requested to their 'tab' and work out payment later on down the line. Probably will be the '1 satoshi per Mb' rate to be called once past a certain threshold
15:42 mircea_popescu lobbes ideally should have it queriable. like say !Qhas https://soandso
15:42 mircea_popescu oh, speaking of which!
15:43 lobbes I can make that happen
15:43 mircea_popescu !QAuction 1 168 The very notebook displayed in http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ ! Free shipping anywhere in the world included.
15:43 lobbesbot AUCTION # 163 STARTED by mircea_popescu: The very notebook displayed in http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ ! Free shipping anywhere in the world included. Opening: 1 coppers Ending: 2017-12-18 20:43:32 UTC (168 hours)
15:44 mircea_popescu !~ticker --market all
15:44 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 17123.07, vol: 18431.67105555 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 17126.0, vol: 86326.20598473 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 17300.0, vol: 4923.59607879 | Volume-weighted last average: 17133.3184732
15:45 mircea_popescu so if it's fiddy bux to ship, and 1e9 ECu to the Bitcoin, it then follows anything under 3mn is actually a loss.
15:45 * mircea_popescu is curious
15:45 lobbes !Qbid 163 1
15:45 lobbesbot AUCTION # 163: The very notebook displayed in http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ ! Free shipping anywhere in the world included. Heard: 1 from lobbes Ending: 2017-12-18 20:43:32 UTC (167 hours 57 mins)
15:46 mircea_popescu lobbes o wait, it's going to do hourly announcements here too because called here ?
15:46 lobbes Lol. Still some kinks to work out for it to work in #trilema it seems
15:46 lobbes Op maybe not
15:47 mircea_popescu hm ?
15:49 lobbes Indeed
15:49 lobbes Or actually. I'ma have to check. It may be limited to only announce in #eulora still
15:49 * lobbes Will review teh code again tonight.
15:49 mircea_popescu that's how it should be.
15:49 mircea_popescu ppl want to follow its auction list can just join there.
15:50 lobbes !Qauctionlist
15:50 lobbes Yup. #eulora only
15:50 mircea_popescu cool.
15:51 mircea_popescu this is a pretty great set-up!
15:51 mircea_popescu i can sell my art!!!1
15:55 shinohai Now take same notebook, have slave girl wipe ass on single sheet. Put up for auction on reddit or a chan. Pretty sure some degenerate will pay $100+ for a waifu notebook with poop in it.
15:56 mircea_popescu my girls tend to be as described in http://trilema.com/2017/tute/ ; very opposite of waifu.
15:56 diana_coman ugh, that cover
15:56 mircea_popescu diana_coman now imagine me with the beard buyinbg it
15:58 diana_coman funnier still walking around with it; fwiw the text reads though as if it actually starts somewhere in the 4th paragraph
15:58 mircea_popescu well yes, 3rd page
16:09 mircea_popescu aaanyway, so i'm standing here on balcony perched up on this hillside while the winds gust all around bending the palms almost to the ground. the sky is mostly clear, with beautiful cloud coloring work.
16:09 mircea_popescu TIME TO CACKLE MENACINGLY AT THE FREE WORLD!!111
16:09 * asciilifeform did picture mircea_popescu as having a dedicated 'muhahahahaha' balcony
16:09 mircea_popescu (the wind power plant still unmoved. they missed out on like 30% of all the power they're ever gonna generate this year, because of this lulz. i do not believe it's a genuine technological item anymore.)
16:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: was it one of those affairs where the windmills swivel ?
16:11 asciilifeform they won't swivel ( or eventually, for that matter , turn ) if not lubricated. and mircea_popescu did find that monkeystani folx dun believe in maintenance..
16:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform to round out the mental image, smoked salmon, grana padano, pepper slices and pinot grigio (delle venezie, igt) spritzed with san pelegrino and ice.
16:11 mircea_popescu MMMMWAHAHAHAHAH
16:14 danielpbarron !QAuction 10000000 72 First Generation FUCKGOATS Hardware Random Number Generator Unit #50 plus free S.NSA t-shirt -- free international shipping
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16:14 lobbesbot AUCTION # 164 STARTED by danielpbarron: First Generation FUCKGOATS Hardware Random Number Generator Unit #50 plus free S.NSA t-shirt -- free international shipping Opening: 10000000 coppers Ending: 2017-12-14 21:14:15 UTC (72 hours)
16:14 danielpbarron let's see what's more popular: ebay or lobbesbot :D
16:14 mircea_popescu o damn, have i forgot to mention the slave-made bread ?
16:15 mircea_popescu i guess i did, at that. poor slavegirls, how they slave, literally, over a hot stove only to be taken for granted.
16:15 mircea_popescu down with teh patriarchy.
16:15 mircea_popescu who was the guy who wanted one ?
16:15 mircea_popescu !~later tell izabera http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749592
16:15 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 21:14 danielpbarron: !QAuction 10000000 72 First Generation FUCKGOATS Hardware Random Number Generator Unit #50 plus free S.NSA t-shirt -- free international shipping
16:15 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
16:16 mircea_popescu danielpbarron rather, lets see what happens first, 3 days pass or 10mn ECu become worth more than a car.
16:17 trinque this is pretty damned cool lobbes.
16:18 danielpbarron and while we're on the topic, i also have a non-auction listing on ebay where people can buy multiple or make me an offer
16:19 shinohai I like the door facades in that house mircea_popescu ... what does kitchen look like/consist of ?
16:19 mircea_popescu trinque word! /me is like actually looking around the house for more shit to sell!
16:20 mircea_popescu shinohai us style fridge, electric stove, a double sink and countertops. or how do you mean ?
16:20 shinohai I was hoping perhaps it contained massive, old-world kitchen.
16:21 danielpbarron !Qbid 163 1mn
16:21 lobbesbot AUCTION # 163: The very notebook displayed in http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ ! Free shipping anywhere in the world included. Heard: 1mn from danielpbarron overbidding lobbes Ending: 2017-12-18 20:43:32 UTC (167 hours 22 mins)
16:29 trinque !!v 9D0F6680D2E67509050EE11D105CFC0C77CE89F7DBE1E411023A543E627F1BCA
16:29 deedbot trinque rated lobbes 2
16:30 * lobbes bows at trinque
16:30 lobbes For people in #t who may not be aware. (The fees only apply to those who start an auction. Bids are always phree): http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-09-11.log.html#t01:43:33
16:30 lobbesbot Logged on 2017-09-11 01:43:33: <lobbes> New fees are now as follows: 2000 ECu per hour for auctions ending with a sale, 10000 ECu per/hr for auctions ending in no sale
16:31 lobbes Collected every quarter. Can be paid via eulora or deedbot
16:32 mircea_popescu shinohai nah. BUT! i did encounter a massive old world item, which i will presently show. though other thinjhs in queue. so after that.
16:33 mircea_popescu lobbes you might want to reconsider thouse ; iirc they were pegged back when btc was 1k or so.
16:36 lobbes Alternatively, there's always the traditional % off of sale. But iirc the fees were introduced to curb spamming in channel of 'derp' auctions
16:36 mircea_popescu yeh.
16:37 lobbes Which flat per hour makes moar sense
16:37 lobbes I got some noodling to do it seemz
16:38 mircea_popescu what's this come too, lessee
16:39 mircea_popescu !~calc 17133.3184732 * 168 * 1e5 / 1e9
16:39 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: 17133.3184732 * 168 * 1e5 / 1e9 = 287.83975034976004
16:39 mircea_popescu so it's gonna cost me... 300 bucks if this auction ends up unbidden ?
16:40 lobbes Yeahh... hm
16:40 mircea_popescu seems like... two degrees of magnitude off. unless i'm fucking the math up.
16:40 mircea_popescu which i think it must be because it was never this expensive.
16:42 lobbes Ah, wait. Shouldn't it be: 17133.3184732 * 168 * 1e4 / 1e9 ?
16:42 mircea_popescu yes, it should.
16:43 mircea_popescu and yet... it STILL seems two degrees of magnitude off.
16:43 mircea_popescu the principal consideration here being that if you charge more than maybe a quarter or so, you're basically paying for someone to make a competitor.
16:44 mircea_popescu which is imo kinda wasteful at this stage.
16:44 danielpbarron heh, my early adopter privilege blinded me to this
16:45 lobbes Makes sense. Yeah, should prolly only cost you roughly 3 bux if no sale using sane fees
16:45 mircea_popescu danielpbarron i know, right ?
16:46 mircea_popescu lobbes also bear in mind teh http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746620
16:46 mircea_popescu tis wise to undershoot early and keep the loot for later.
16:47 lobbes Ok, I can see this reasoning. I'm thinking I'll reduce fees to: 100 ecu per hour no sale, 20 per hour if sale
16:48 mircea_popescu bam.
16:48 mircea_popescu that moment when there's three different singlet earrings on your coffee table and you can't find your spare camera battery among them
16:53 lobbes Ftr, these reduced fees will be applied retroactively for all Q4 billz. For next year, I'm thinking I may switch to the "only pay once you hit certain hour threshold" model.
16:56 mod6 <+asciilifeform> incidentally folx: each of you who considers himself 'graduate' of an ffa chapter, consider signing << fwiw, I have held back signing on ch1 since I can not still build it out of the box, successfully.
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16:57 mircea_popescu lobbes remind me to give you a chetty stick next we meet ; for greater glory.
16:57 mircea_popescu not even sure what they;'re worth by now, but prolly a benji or so.
16:57 mircea_popescu mod6 what croaks ?
16:57 mod6 There was some commenting out of the Restrictions that I needed to do. If/when I get a successful environment to build it, then will sign.
16:57 trinque would probably be useful to say which restrictions.
16:58 trinque could point to platform limitations, or wreckers in particular ada version, or...
16:58 mod6 this was supposidly because im running 2015 adacore. which i can buy. but have had even less success with Adacore 2016 and 2017. not to say that I won't get the incantaiton correct at somepoint, but for now, I can't build it successfully.
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16:58 mod6 <+trinque> would probably be useful to say which restrictions. << it's in the logs.
16:58 trinque ah k
16:59 danielpbarron lobbes, i think i still owe you from a previous quarter and you should price that based on whatever it was back then
16:59 mod6 I only mention this again simply because this is the 2nd time I've seen alf ask for sigs.
16:59 mod6 And I'm taking the time to explain why I have not.
17:00 lobbes danielpbarron, sounds like a plan. Lemme know if you wanna settle via eulora vs deedbot. Either way I'm in the mines atm, I can settle stuff tonight though
17:00 lobbes mircea_popescu, deal!
17:03 danielpbarron whichever you want. i'm available in eulora right now
17:03 danielpbarron oh in the mines doesn't mean in game lol
17:04 mircea_popescu this discussion spurred me to realise that eg my 4k pile of high-quality coarse cordage is thereby worth like... 50mn ECu or so, nominally ? leaving how it would prolly sell for more than 100% (duh), that's likle... a toyota's worth of IMAGINARY coarse cordage ?
17:05 mircea_popescu im not even sure there exist that many shops which keep that much cordage around altogether.
17:05 mircea_popescu including any marina outfitter i ever saw. 8k dollars would be like what, a roomfull ?
17:06 danielpbarron by my math a 100 USD chetty stick would come out to 5mn quality. you have these??
17:06 mircea_popescu o it would ?
17:07 mircea_popescu lesee since i brought it up
17:08 danielpbarron i have several hundred 200k quality from before the split, which i guess are worth more than 3 USD a pop
17:09 mircea_popescu danielpbarron i have 367k ones ; they were 36k and then the float happ[ened
17:09 mircea_popescu i guess i was off by a zero again ?
17:10 mircea_popescu bitcoin plays right into my peculiar form of mathslexia ; i am thoroughly and forever degree of magnitude confused.
17:12 asciilifeform oh hey the auction thing is interesting
17:13 mircea_popescu now if only we had a bitbet to lose our shit betting on what eventual price the shit ends up sold at...
17:13 mircea_popescu INFINITE POWER
17:13 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: maybe at some point we auction prototype rng ( asciilifeform has a few , mircea_popescu also, and somebody else i think )
17:13 asciilifeform lol
17:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform im not selling mine ; but you can yes. tho prolly too soon.
17:14 mircea_popescu anyway. republican autarky progressing nicely / intensifies.
17:14 asciilifeform i have 2x a 'массово габаритный макет' if you will , of the FG pcb , also prolly auctionfodder candidate
17:15 mircea_popescu i propose in a decade or two we all retire and live off the auctioning of memorabilia.
17:15 mircea_popescu you know, exactly like the ww2 generation did.
17:15 asciilifeform loll
17:16 asciilifeform !!up fromloper
17:16 deedbot fromloper voiced for 30 minutes.
17:16 fromloper hello
17:16 fromloper asciilifeform, have you read this? http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/symbolics/I_Machine/
17:16 fromloper this seems to be Symbolics' internal docs for the Ivory. are they sufficient to develop a clone? I've tried to find previous discussions of this particular subset of docs in the logs but didn't find anything.
17:16 asciilifeform Framedragger: not only read, but have the dead tree
17:16 asciilifeform and nope, sadly nowhere near sufficient.
17:17 mircea_popescu danielpbarron it just means in a different kind of game. a very sad one. like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSK7KWye0n0&feature=youtu.be
17:17 fromloper the macroinstruction set doc was actually published as a dead tree book?
17:17 asciilifeform fromloper: it is part of the reason why the snap* emulators don't properly work
17:17 asciilifeform fromloper: not published as such. but was in my docs pile next to the actual docs.
17:18 asciilifeform !#s ivory
17:18 a111 90 results for "ivory", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=ivory
17:18 asciilifeform fromloper ^ start here
17:18 fromloper I see. I was trying to reverse-engineer snap4 from the source code but postponed it due to lack of time.
17:18 mircea_popescu fromloper consider getting a name ?
17:20 fromloper I had a registered nickname on freenode a while ago, I'll try to remember the password
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17:50 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749644 << mod6 didja ever describe this ??
17:50 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 21:56 mod6: <+asciilifeform> incidentally folx: each of you who considers himself 'graduate' of an ffa chapter, consider signing << fwiw, I have held back signing on ch1 since I can not still build it out of the box, successfully.
17:50 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749651 << fwiw i test on 2016
17:50 a111 Logged on 2017-12-11 21:58 mod6: this was supposidly because im running 2015 adacore. which i can buy. but have had even less success with Adacore 2016 and 2017. not to say that I won't get the incantaiton correct at somepoint, but for now, I can't build it successfully.
17:50 mod6 ya. it's in the logs. i can dig it up if needed. but i believe my problem to be environmental and somehow to related to adacore.
17:51 mod6 i'll keep workin on it.
17:51 asciilifeform i tested on both adacore and gnuist
17:51 asciilifeform ( for bonus, also on crapple )
17:51 mod6 sure. i'll im just looking for the correct way to set up an environment.
17:55 mod6 s/i
17:55 mod6 bah. s/i'll//
17:55 mod6 so it seems it may somehow be related to ben_vulpes's issue
17:56 mod6 i'll keep digging in and report back
18:02 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/medley/ << Trilema - Medley.
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18:33 ben_vulpes https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/ryan-lizza-of-the-new-yorker-fired-for-improper-sexual-contact/2017/12/11/3d7da174-deb7-11e7-8679-a9728984779c_story.html << the vigorous contestations begin!
18:38 asciilifeform 'He also unwittingly became caught up in the news in 2013 when he attempted to sign up for health insurance on HealthCare.gov, the then-new website for Obamacare. He described the experience in a series of tweets, noting at first that he was successful in setting up an account. But then he ran into problems in completing the sign up, mirroring the experience of millions of users, who faced glitches in the site’s earliest days. The
18:38 asciilifeform Obama White House tweeted out his earliest tweets, however, conveying the false impression that signing up was easy ...'
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18:55 mircea_popescu the very notion of PROPER sexual contact.
18:55 mircea_popescu protege domine.
18:56 mircea_popescu [plebem tuam per signum sanctae crucis ab obnibus insidiis inimiucorum omnium]
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20:03 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
20:03 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 16413.0, vol: 16683.29327574 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 16643.95894003, vol: 78223.52808399 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 16522.4, vol: 4555.0776512 | Volume-weighted last average: 16599.6518618
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20:40 mats i keep seeing 'traumatic brain injury' in your statements, BingoBoingo
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20:55 mircea_popescu so i re-watched la grande belezza for like the twelfth time. it's possibly the greatest film ever made. or maybe i'm just slow -- for instance, only now did it finally occur to me that the giulio moneta, "uno dei dieci latitanti piu ricercati del mondo" was in fact a straight reference to m m denaro.
21:01 mircea_popescu aaand here's a bit for trinque 's humanities studies : "Dies irae, dias illa solved saeculum in favilla teste David cum Sibylla ; quantus tremor est futurus quando Judex est venturus cuncta stricte discussurus!"
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21:16 lobbes !!balance
21:16 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/
21:16 mircea_popescu o.O
21:16 trinque hmwat
21:16 mircea_popescu !!balance
21:16 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4MPLr/?raw=true
21:16 lobbes I wonder if this has to do with: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1734399
21:16 a111 Logged on 2017-11-08 21:13 lobbes: and yeah, I overlooked that I apparently had to also remove expiration on the sub -explicitly- (via gpg --edit-key). Even though it was showing the sub as 'expiration: none' after I had removed expiration on the pub way back when
21:16 mircea_popescu i guess his is shorter
21:16 trinque lol
21:17 trinque lobbes: oh yeah, that machine is quite likely to have your old key
21:17 * trinque will also look into what floppy lispism resulted in that URL
21:18 lobbes word. I'm in no real rush either way (and I think I only had around 0.001 on there)
21:21 trinque lobbes: give it another pull
21:21 lobbes !!balance
21:21 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/DEZG5/?raw=true
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21:21 lobbes nice!
21:22 lobbes and confirmed: balance matches
21:28 trinque mircea_popescu: will put that in the study queue. something about visions of angry, loosened/secularized days, maybe? gotta cram more tenses into my skull.
21:28 mircea_popescu sibylla, yes ? and david ?
21:29 mircea_popescu it's like... a 900 year old text about cryptoconcerns.
21:31 trinque http://www.preces-latinae.org/thesaurus/Hymni/DiesIrae.html << neat, found full text
21:32 mircea_popescu the 1800s anglican englishversion is not bad, either.
21:39 trinque is the "illa" there not "they" or "those", as in referring to the subjects at end of the first line?
21:40 trinque can't tell if the translation is just macroexpanding "dies irae" with the "dreadful day" or if there's another "illa"
21:40 mircea_popescu macroexpanding
21:41 trinque could see the former, "look kid, your language takes saying it twice to understand irae"
21:41 trinque aha
21:41 mircea_popescu lol
21:42 mircea_popescu i suspect twice may be an understatement
21:42 mircea_popescu "nobody could have predicted", after all.
21:47 mod6 asciilifeform: ok I got it working with gnat-2016. somehow i had a corrupted install i believe. http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/AOIKx/?raw=true
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22:24 asciilifeform oh hey hey hey lbj
22:24 asciilifeform congrats mod6
22:27 asciilifeform trinque: i've wondered for some time , is the thing where your walletron throws pgpciphered matter into the greater void, as in e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749739 , without the addressee's name in the line -- deliberate design choice ?
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22:27 a111 Logged on 2017-12-12 02:21 deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/DEZG5/?raw=true
22:27 asciilifeform and if so -- why
22:27 asciilifeform often the link pops up hour or moar after the invocation, and i end up clicking, expecting traditional (i.e. plaintext) deedbot material
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22:32 mod6 <+asciilifeform> congrats mod6 << thanks for the blog posts!
22:35 asciilifeform yw mod6
22:43 lobbes !!invoice danielpbarron 0.00024 http://deedbot.org/deed-473777-3.txt
22:44 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/GOX2n/?raw=true
22:44 lobbes !!v C9851BC0DF6A2F6FB5A32CE817F6A8A8CC3205513F80DB14D8A5AE9C72F897E3
22:44 deedbot Invoiced danielpbarron 0.00024 << http://deedbot.org/deed-473777-3.txt
22:46 mircea_popescu !~calc 0.00024 * 17133.3184732
22:46 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: 0.00024 * 17133.3184732 = 4.111996433568001
22:46 mircea_popescu seems so improbable.
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22:51 danielpbarron !!received-invoices
22:51 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/kN1AU/?raw=true
22:54 danielpbarron !!pay-invoice lobbes 1
22:54 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yEGl4/?raw=true
22:58 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: if you're talking about http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-09#1749036 my guess is that's a block inclusion receipt
22:58 a111 Logged on 2017-12-09 02:28 deedbot: hanbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/zHdaA/?raw=true
22:58 mircea_popescu no, without a name
22:59 ben_vulpes the linked one is not one of those "hours later" instances tho
22:59 mircea_popescu yeah. possibly though rule to always put addressee name in line when sending encrypted matter may be useful nevertheless.
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23:00 ben_vulpes well shit now someone has to build a gpg-gram adressee grepulator
23:00 mircea_popescu why ?
23:00 mircea_popescu he knows he's encrypting to x
23:00 ben_vulpes i kid, i kid
23:00 mircea_popescu your kids scare me.
23:02 ben_vulpes not scary yet, can't recognize more than 80% of the alphabet or get safeties off firearms
23:02 mircea_popescu lol
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23:20 lobbes !!deed http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2017/q2/danielpbarron_payment_receipt.txt
23:22 mircea_popescu aaand in other ancient trilemas, http://trilema.com/2009/de-mogulibus/
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23:22 mircea_popescu at least at teh time, the definitive work on romania.
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23:43 trinque lobbes: that is probably hung up in dns purgatory. my hop from namecheap to namesilo just took, and namesilo didn't slurp all the old records.
23:43 mircea_popescu pretty cool interface btw, wouldn't you say ?
23:43 trinque looks like deeds was the only thing that cared.
23:44 trinque yep, I approve so far. no bullshit, very straightforward.
23:44 trinque and can deposit btc
23:44 mircea_popescu yea.
23:44 mircea_popescu lol i think i deposited a btc back when it was a few hundy
23:55 deedbot accepted: 1
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