Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans
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00:28 mod6 !!up elaineo
00:28 deedbot elaineo voiced for 30 minutes.
00:28 mod6 !!up oroborous
00:28 deedbot oroborous voiced for 30 minutes.
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01:06 mircea_popescu and in other superficialities, http://68.media.tumblr.com/63c58c530ee32ef164e9c9016ecb5a13/tumblr_njiap9j3TR1qemzxmo1_400.gif
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02:30 davout http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717916 <<< none, i did hit up a couple DCs around here, nothing interesting came out of it
02:30 a111 Logged on 2017-09-27 22:46 BingoBoingo: davout: I'm wondering if an progress was made finding Francophone datacenters outside France, preferaby in the heart of the dark continent
~ 3 hours 19 minutes ~
05:50 BingoBoingo davout: K, will cross continent off list
~ 34 minutes ~
06:24 cruciform just bcrash, derping as usual: http://fork.lol/pow/retarget
~ 1 hours 10 minutes ~
07:35 phf asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/x0p5S/?raw=true$
~ 2 hours 6 minutes ~
09:41 mod6 mornin'
09:54 asciilifeform !~later tell phf http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/b9fvZ/?raw=true
09:54 jhvh1 asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
~ 2 hours 28 minutes ~
12:23 asciilifeform ohai mircea_popescu
12:24 mircea_popescu sup
12:25 asciilifeform barrett proof
12:25 mircea_popescu o hey.
12:25 asciilifeform well, not quite, but getting there.
12:26 mircea_popescu um.
12:26 mircea_popescu THAT IS NOT QUITE SAME THING
12:26 asciilifeform when have complete proof, will say it in complete sentence!111!
12:26 mircea_popescu haha ok.
12:26 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-29#1718201 << wait, as opposed to whim ?!
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12:26 a111 Logged on 2017-09-29 03:10 BingoBoingo finds it a nice change of pace to have a Trilema fiction story with so much emphasis on the protagonists
12:26 mircea_popescu i mean whom. although...
12:28 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-29#1718203 << i believe. it is not currently directly evident anything else CAN be used, even.
12:28 a111 Logged on 2017-09-29 03:28 asciilifeform hasn't deployed anything but hand-sewn router for maybe 4y+
12:29 asciilifeform i certainly can't bring myself to use the konsoomer crapola, when making a replacement that lasts ~forever and requires 0 nursing, is hardly even day's work
12:29 * asciilifeform checks router in room and finds ~year of uptime, and would be longer if i hadn't cleaned it last winter
12:30 mircea_popescu and in today's installment of loose holes and limp knees, http://68.media.tumblr.com/b0c7cea42f4b64cc3965fe43817b45da/tumblr_nskr27Zx6h1u9uov7o1_400.gif
12:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform whatr do you use, actual comps ? or rasperry lulz ?
12:31 asciilifeform typically neither:
12:31 asciilifeform this one, for example, is a defanged (refirmwared) 'edgerouter'
12:31 asciilifeform 64bit mips thing, there was a thread
12:32 asciilifeform another pretty good one is that very same pcengines box, from ~that~ thread
12:32 mircea_popescu ah. i guess, if you keep lists of which ones aren't too stupid byu nature
12:32 asciilifeform just about anything with a few GB nic ports, fanless cpu, and some place to stick netbsd etc, worx
12:32 asciilifeform also helps if it has a serial port ( mine do )
12:33 mircea_popescu with the downside that you're now stuck maintaining netbsd.
12:33 asciilifeform maintaining?!
12:33 mircea_popescu well ?
12:33 asciilifeform you stick it on and weld it shut
12:33 mircea_popescu need i quote at you ?
12:33 * trinque doesn't have GB internet connection, so old G4 + openbsd works great
12:33 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-26#1717601
12:33 a111 Logged on 2017-09-26 15:45 asciilifeform: in other lulzies, https://archive.is/roEgM >> privesc 0day : '...all versions of CentOS 7 before 1708 (released on September 13, 2017), all versions of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 before 7.4 (released on August 1, 2017), and all versions of CentOS 6 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 are exploitable' << Aaaaaaand as usual linus sat on the goods since april, because 'responsible'
12:34 mircea_popescu trinque except you gotta maintain openbsd now.
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12:34 asciilifeform why would a router care re privesc
12:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform why would the next one be re privesc.
12:34 trinque I dunno what maintain means here
12:34 mircea_popescu that at any future point you must be able to produce a package you're willing to label "openbsd"
12:35 mircea_popescu as opposed to, say randomly, "a piece of junk"
12:35 trinque sure, that much is true.
12:35 mircea_popescu well that much is also the entirety of the problem.
12:35 asciilifeform router is a pretty simple item, incidentally, and a good first candidate for proper total deunixation
12:35 trinque I'm still of the mind that I'd rather eat openbsd than linux
12:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that is true.
12:35 mircea_popescu trinque yeah, but i was just making the point for his benefit that his elaborately crafted turd is not so much better than the 40 bux consumer turd.
12:36 mircea_popescu "oh, i never eat at mcdonalds, i always cook all my meals at home out of cheese squares and hormel pork sausage"
12:36 asciilifeform eats packet (on either end), looks at a few fields, either accepts (then rewrites a few fields and shits out of other arse) or rejects (drops on floor)
12:36 asciilifeform so on ad infinitum
12:36 trinque hm yeah, no point of honor in it
12:38 asciilifeform there's no particular reason why a router oughta contain a few 100MB of unixlike, rather than, say, a few kB of fpga config.
12:39 mircea_popescu very true.
12:39 * asciilifeform wonders whether anybody would actually buy a generic fpgatronic packet eater-shitter
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12:39 * trinque raises hand
12:39 mod6 ya
12:39 mircea_popescu if it can be delivered a la FG, and it doesn't cost MUCH more than the current shits, defo.
12:40 asciilifeform would prolly cost roughly what you'd expect it to if you napkin calc.
12:40 asciilifeform ( hundy or so, in small qty , by my reckoning )
12:40 mircea_popescu not bad. current ones are what, fiddybux.
12:41 asciilifeform 'edge' was a hundy, but it had nice steel chassis, etc. ( and also i suspect sold at a loss, stock firmware was brazenly nsaware )
12:42 mircea_popescu ah, if nice chassis and stuff like that, total steal.
12:42 mircea_popescu actually... pogos ?
12:42 asciilifeform pogo's only got 1 nic
12:42 mircea_popescu ah right.
12:43 trinque that pcengines guy's a great one, 3 nics.
12:43 asciilifeform trinque: aha, worx great
12:43 trinque sad thing that they lost the debug port
12:43 asciilifeform that's typically what they're used for
12:43 mircea_popescu does 3 nics mean you could plug it into two internets and have it splice ?
12:43 asciilifeform trinque: theoretically they still have the port, it just dun work without amd magic key
12:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it means exactly what your own handmade box with 3 nics means -- can splice, balance, whichever
12:44 mircea_popescu well, i would defo buy a bunch of these if properly set up so they can be ip x in wan1 and ip y in wan2 and then establish sessions through the least decongested one at all times.
12:44 mircea_popescu so different pages in kitten's self-same browser think they're different ips.
12:45 mircea_popescu least congested*
12:46 mircea_popescu in fact, i'd even declare it an absolutely required bit of republican computing, as such. because it does make a first step towards the specifically stated uci goal, "location ambiguity"
12:46 mircea_popescu shit's in gossipd design papers too, and really everywhere.
12:48 mircea_popescu asciilifeform can they hang like 8 lan ports off the 2nd nic ? and can they not have fucking wireless, too ? DUN DUN DUN, perfect final hop router.
12:49 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'edge' has 1 usb hole , and it is inside, holds the flash stick it runs of. so not really a place to put wireless. 'pcengines' has 2 usb holes and 3 internal pci-e, plus antenna hole predrilled, so theoretically yes
12:49 * asciilifeform typically has separate boxes for 80211, in places where he has the latter
12:50 mircea_popescu fuck the fucking wireless.
12:50 asciilifeform possibly i misread q
12:50 asciilifeform as 'can it have wireless'
12:51 asciilifeform but no, neither comes with wireless nic, wtf
12:51 asciilifeform who the fuck would put wireless nic in a final hop router, lol
12:52 mircea_popescu i'd buy shit without wireless in preference of shit with, even if same exact shit.
12:52 mircea_popescu the only fucking reason wireless exists is the dumbass "smartphones". fucking civilisation enders.
12:53 asciilifeform then good noose -- both of the example boxes, contain strictly classic nics
12:57 mod6 sweet
12:59 mircea_popescu hm
12:59 mircea_popescu weird 7second+ lag shit.
12:59 mircea_popescu and speaking of freenode bs : "* - A massive thank you to our sponsors and exibitors: Private Internet Access, Canonical, Bytemark, yubico, Open Rights Group, Free Software Foundation, OpenSUSE, Minetest, KDE, bitcoin.com."
12:59 mircea_popescu for the thing they kept spamming.
13:00 mircea_popescu apparently my boxes aren't needed, but hell yea roger ver's "money" that doesn't exist is more than welcome. and plox moar yubikey and canonical and if it's not fucking plain yet...
13:01 trinque bbl
13:02 asciilifeform i'm a little surprised that 'linux foundation' and prb foundation ain't on that list
13:02 asciilifeform then it could be truly compleeet
13:13 mod6 heheh
~ 31 minutes ~
13:44 asciilifeform !!up Ingolfr_Arnarson
13:44 deedbot Ingolfr_Arnarson voiced for 30 minutes.
~ 19 minutes ~
14:04 BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-29#1718245 << As opposed to the Disgrace rewrite which didn't have much from the Petrus perspective
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14:04 a111 Logged on 2017-09-29 16:26 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-29#1718201 << wait, as opposed to whim ?!
~ 24 minutes ~
14:28 BingoBoingo In the latest from the 'Reality Winner' saga: "Accused NSA leaker was angry over Fox News always being on in the office"
14:29 BingoBoingo And the printed documents were smuggled out in her pantyhose
14:33 asciilifeform relatedly, is there a 'fawkes news' in britain ? and if not, why not.
~ 54 minutes ~
15:27 asciilifeform !!up fromphuctor
15:27 deedbot fromphuctor voiced for 30 minutes.
15:27 asciilifeform fromphuctor: hello ?
15:28 fromphuctor good evening sirs
15:28 asciilifeform who might you be, fromphuctor ?
15:28 fromphuctor lurker mostly
15:28 trinque wjat
15:28 trinque *what's the other bit, aside the mostly?
15:30 asciilifeform fromphuctor: well you picked up the microphone... so speak
15:30 fromphuctor ah, no nothing related to your affairs yet, so lurker totally... wanted to check pgp on some os and came across phuctor
15:30 fromphuctor klicked on a link, now here
15:30 fromphuctor go on with your things, i ask if i want to know sth
15:31 asciilifeform fromphuctor: if you're curious re phuctor, i recommend to read the faq page
15:31 fromphuctor duh
15:33 fromphuctor ah now i remember my question
15:34 fromphuctor i wanted to read about the relationship between math and programming languages
15:35 asciilifeform more specifically ?
15:35 fromphuctor basically the question is what is the relationship between math and programming languages
15:36 fromphuctor do you know authors that describe that in any way ?
15:36 asciilifeform a. turing & a. church
15:37 asciilifeform and ~all of the mathematical work was done long before there existed such a thing as a programmable comp
15:38 fromphuctor that is why i find it is worth investigating
15:38 asciilifeform if you want a kindergarten b00k in english, try feynman's 'lectures on computation'
15:39 fromphuctor i would have thought maybe russian authors would be more suited
15:39 asciilifeform the way you phrased the question suggests that your road to grasping the answer, is long
15:39 fromphuctor yes
15:40 asciilifeform if you really must have in ru, here's where asciilifeform started, as a 4yo, https://royallib.com/read/zaretskiy_andrey/a_ya_bil_v_kompyuternom_gorode.html#0
15:42 fromphuctor ohnicethx sir, one link at a time, chugging along on the road
15:44 fromphuctor about the Phuctor/PGP related things i ask another time
15:45 fromphuctor checking my phrasing before
15:45 fromphuctor thank you asciilifeform
15:48 asciilifeform sure.
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15:54 asciilifeform in other lulz, via BingoBoingo , '"Reality, uh, you know we obviously know a lot more than... than what we're telling you at this point. And I think you know a lot more than what you're telling us at this point. I don't want you to go down the wrong road. I think you need to... to stop and think about what you're saying and what you're doing. Uhm, you know, I... I think it's a... an opportunity to maybe tell the truth. Because, uh, t
15:54 asciilifeform elling a... telling a lie to an FBI agent is not going to be the right thing."'
15:54 asciilifeform didjaknow.
15:58 asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/NmbxE/?raw=true << somewhat miserable ocr of https://arstechnica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/winnertranscript-1.pdf . lulzy.
16:03 asciilifeform ^ prolly most detailed record of usg gasenwagen session to date
16:06 asciilifeform summary : chix was not 'silent like partizan', no.
16:08 asciilifeform in other idiocies, https://archive.is/zI6Xm >> '... mysterious attacks that left diplomats with hearing damage and brain injuries, the State Department announced...' << somebody lock'em up in schizo ward, like they do to their victims back home, per http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-26#1548698
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16:08 a111 Logged on 2016-09-26 17:33 asciilifeform: incidentally i find it quite hilarious that three years after the snowden catalogue leak, the constellation of symptoms of rf bug illuminator victims is still Officially 'schizo'
16:21 trinque this transcript is such a fucking snore, ye gods
16:22 trinque smells a lot like "hey lets get srsbsns PROOF of russian hax into the news"
16:23 trinque http://archive.is/ooCb6 << and not read her rights!
16:23 trinque chick's gonna get out in a few years and get paid under the table, disappear
16:24 trinque the feds meanwhile read like stuttery, inarticulate derps.
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16:34 ben_vulpes pink ar-15, that's pretty damn funny.
~ 30 minutes ~
17:05 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: it's so as not to stand out from the scenery when fighting on planets with pink vegetation and soil, clearly
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17:05 asciilifeform or perhaps for urban combat inside those old-school lunatic asylums where the walls were pinked...
17:07 mats https://www.coindesk.com/edward-snowden-zcash-is-most-interesting-bitcoin-alternative handpuppet adds zcash to list of suspect items that include tor browser bundle, tail, signal
17:08 mats tails*
17:09 asciilifeform !#s zcash
17:09 a111 27 results for "zcash", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=zcash
17:09 * asciilifeform had nfi it were still around
17:10 asciilifeform comically idiotic thing, nearly made ethertardium look sane in comparison
17:11 asciilifeform it's the one where they pretended to destroy the magical infinite-inflatolade-creation key
17:12 mats countless mentions to that and monero in every hn thread about bitcoin - more privacy! anon by default! diversify your holdings! *waves hands*
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17:53 asciilifeform 'Writing in response to a tweet from technologist Mason Borda which read: "Zcash is the only altcoin (that i know of) designed and built by professional and academic cryptographers. Hard to ignore," Snowden replied, "Agree."'
17:54 asciilifeform didjaknow.
17:57 asciilifeform mats: word 'suspect' implies uncertainty. cyanide is not a 'suspect' poison, tor, signal, etc are not 'suspect' usgologies.
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18:40 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
18:40 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 4165.06, vol: 12049.97783533 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 4180.0, vol: 38487.5737384 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 4085.44, vol: 515.89440000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 4178.0, vol: 4218.02692379 | Volume-weighted last average: 4175.70762846
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19:20 BingoBoingo In seekoority ex-part solutions https://i.redditmedia.com/gBXKccLboeUOlm_zCZmx8ruCfFGrPGQFP_TrYzI6Hwg.jpg?w=768&s=b332705632a052c59962b430f7b6ac1e
19:27 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-29#1718334 << well the idea there was that petrus being petrus is illiterate. not in the sense of not pretending to be able to write, but in the sense of actually not having anything to say.
19:27 a111 Logged on 2017-09-29 18:04 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-29#1718245 << As opposed to the Disgrace rewrite which didn't have much from the Petrus perspective
19:28 mircea_popescu the metrosexuals describe themselves, for lack of anyone else interested. apart from that, the victims describe the rapists and thassat.
19:29 BingoBoingo Still, his illiteracy doesn't make Petrus any less the protagonist in the story of things that happened to David
19:29 mircea_popescu proto-gonadist at any rater.
19:29 mircea_popescu but yes.
19:30 BingoBoingo It's still more than David is
19:41 asciilifeform the spartan speaks with his... meatsword
19:41 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-29#1718370 << incidentally, maybe time to take the webirc link off phuctor ?
19:41 a111 Logged on 2017-09-29 19:48 asciilifeform: sure.
19:42 asciilifeform !#s from:fromphuctor
19:42 a111 165 results for "from:fromphuctor", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Afromphuctor
19:43 asciilifeform ^ dun weigh much, and even not all rubbish
19:43 mircea_popescu if you enjoy it...
19:43 mircea_popescu the original reasoning was that actual high value individuals might need the fast track, for lack of you know, dissemination in their backwater barios.
19:44 mircea_popescu it's been years, the argument no longer stands.
19:44 asciilifeform 165 ln. to date
19:44 mircea_popescu i'm not saying it's a big deal, no.
19:45 asciilifeform when idjits start appearing every month even, then, then .
19:45 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-29#1718383 << because they... are. and the chick's not silent because she expects to actually comandeer the fucking agents.
19:45 a111 Logged on 2017-09-29 20:24 trinque: the feds meanwhile read like stuttery, inarticulate derps.
19:46 mircea_popescu somehow, and i have yuet to pierce this mystery, people on the side of pantsuit always assume they own the world, natively. whereas people on the side of the republic, at least verbally, always assume the opposite, and start derping about how i've to prove shit and so on.
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19:46 mircea_popescu you won't hear Ireality Winner derp about how "what proof can Pantsuited Hilarity bring ?"
19:47 mircea_popescu her line isn't "maybe it's good that fox news is on because what proof does sanders have that it isn't ?"
19:47 mircea_popescu a restatement of the old adage, "the problem with socialism is that idiots are always cocksure ; everyone else, full of doubts"
19:52 asciilifeform 'proof' , also note, ain't magic: there were and still somewhere are folx doubting , e.g., output of phuctor, even though all that is needed to verify is a copy of bc, python, whichever calculator, and a few min.
19:52 mircea_popescu absolutely.
19:53 mircea_popescu laziness is immediate. reason works through the mediacy of the most fragile, most expensive, least dependable mechanism known in nature.
19:53 asciilifeform you can lead a swine to perls but you can't make him... or how did it go.
19:53 mircea_popescu you can't make her a string of anal beads out of them ?
19:53 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> a restatement of the old adage, "the problem with socialism is that idiots are always cocksure ; everyone else, full of doubts" << But how else would Taq1A be so successful if women didn't like making baby with drunks?
19:54 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i have nfi.
19:54 mircea_popescu it's a legitimate open question in ev biology.
19:54 asciilifeform fermentation in unrefrigerated world aint optional
19:55 asciilifeform so imho no puzzler there
19:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform note that it is almost a tracer for "eastern european plains" genotypes. whereas azn ppls had alcohol for thousand+ years longer.
19:56 mircea_popescu (see also eg https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3657369/ )
19:58 asciilifeform this ^ is first time i see 'chinese' and 'depressive disorder' in same sentence
19:58 mircea_popescu heh
19:58 mircea_popescu i will point it out that prior to say 1500, people didn't see "sioux" and "drunkedness" in same sentence either.
19:58 asciilifeform what's next, dystrophic americans..?
19:59 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Taq1A is on of the few genetic markers with STRONG behavioral predictive relation
19:59 mircea_popescu relatively strong.
20:01 * BingoBoingo did swab thing back in pre-Republican before time when more bold than paranoid, supposedly has polyorphism. Responded with "Fuck you genes, I do what I want" ran until
20:01 BingoBoingo !~step1
20:01 jhvh1 1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
20:01 mircea_popescu heh
20:02 * BingoBoingo was trying to see what percent victim I was
20:03 BingoBoingo But that was when still on campus and suffering reality distortion bubble maintained there
20:05 asciilifeform if usg wants asciilifeform's genomic samples, whether for phrenological nonsense or to plant on the deathray trigger that killed jfk or whichever, they can bloody well come and collect at own expense. i ain't sending any.
20:05 BingoBoingo This was an earlier more innocent time. Bitcoin was trading in the single digits after coming down from an all time high
20:06 mircea_popescu this lulzy property of bitcoin. "all time high" moar like "old time high"
20:07 asciilifeform btw mircea_popescu recall how at one time every facility with a newfangled xerox machine, had an особист watchin' over it ?
20:08 mircea_popescu hey, large lulz in ro about you recall, "registering" typewritters.
20:08 asciilifeform the obvious parallel with kanzure and dna sequencers/synths
20:08 mircea_popescu psh. that guy didn't go around trying to get upvotes for the Minitruth facebook page.
20:09 asciilifeform nah but he makes sure to be present for every 'amateur bio' konference whichever, and rats
20:09 mircea_popescu "citizen! retween khannikov! it is your patriotic duty!"
20:13 asciilifeform the typewriter thing lives on, as the famous yellow dots.
20:13 mircea_popescu technologee amirite.
20:14 asciilifeform ( btw i've yet to see a firmware defanger published for any brand of colortreekiller, to date. )
20:14 mircea_popescu not even defanger, a randomizer.
20:14 asciilifeform prolly on account of nobody giving half a shit re traceability of lolcat hardcopy
20:15 mircea_popescu i took girls to cr natl bank museum today ; in the numismatic section they had local scrip
20:15 mircea_popescu as used on banana plantations, by the rail yard etc.
20:15 asciilifeform oh hey i recall the ar museum piece
20:15 mircea_popescu all sorts of lulz, pieces of plain paper, bachelite coins, you name it
20:15 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> the obvious parallel with kanzure and dna sequencers/synths << Except this was back when you had to be Google wife rich to open a DNA startup
20:16 mircea_popescu "you telling me they couldn't falsify these ?!" "who ? a bunch of monkeys being forced to work for the first time in their lineage, at gunpoint ?"
20:16 mircea_popescu you'll be surprised how few nominally white humanrightsourdemocracy items can actually do work.
20:16 asciilifeform auschwitz scrip was pretty spartan also, lol
20:17 BingoBoingo !!Up cazalla
20:17 deedbot cazalla voiced for 30 minutes.
20:17 asciilifeform the strongest fence is always the one in the head
20:18 asciilifeform not in the coin, bill, etc
20:18 BingoBoingo cazalla: Qntra is down until The Republic has one or more ISP providers, latest hoster commited mortal sin of using USG.MS.EmailProvider
20:18 mircea_popescu at least the bribri had the excuse of being born subhuman.
20:18 mircea_popescu reality winner and her wannabe qntra friends constructed her own subhumanity.
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20:19 BingoBoingo BRB, sobertime
20:19 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo well, also the ole "we'll need to tap your servers kthx" nonsenser.
20:19 asciilifeform comically hamhanded
20:19 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Sure, that too.
20:20 asciilifeform srsly wtf, can't just use the fritz chip like civilized stasi?
20:20 asciilifeform why gotta molest hdd.
20:20 BingoBoingo Outlook.com in 2017 is pretty fucking disqualifying too
20:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform why, because they can't do anything else right, they'll magically manage THAT one ?
20:21 mircea_popescu as buggy as everything else they got.
20:21 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the shameful piece is that it's a forced mistake, anyone still using email-with-civilians is stuck in the google-microshit corral nao
20:21 asciilifeform alternative is random message loss
20:21 mircea_popescu i didn't forbid them from growing a wot presence.
20:21 mircea_popescu it'd have proven more lucrative than the outlook bs.
20:23 asciilifeform wot presence while stealing disks would be even more brazen, neh
20:23 mircea_popescu also wouldn't last.
20:24 asciilifeform the real q is what forced to steal disks etc
20:24 asciilifeform '... or have problems' ?
20:25 mircea_popescu "what forced the idiot to do something stupid" orly ?
20:25 asciilifeform ordinary idiocy obeys leastactionprinciple
20:25 asciilifeform like light paths
20:25 cazalla BingoBoingo, ah okay :\ dailystormer just got shoah'd again, this time from .is extension heh
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20:25 mircea_popescu not tru. it is merely NORMALLY DISTRIBUTED around path of least resistance
20:25 asciilifeform what's .is ? isis?!
20:26 cazalla iceland but same thing
20:26 mircea_popescu island.
20:26 mircea_popescu iceland, right.
20:26 asciilifeform lol still feeding dns beast
20:26 cazalla it was claimed that for them to steal the .is domain, it'd have to go to parliment or some shit but they just skipped that and nuked it anyway heh
20:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform they've fixated on this "swedish system". somehow they believe the eskimo are not shit.
20:27 mircea_popescu nfi why.
20:27 mircea_popescu socialists tend to worship the north apparently.
20:28 cazalla shame about qntra, off to eat my steak now, hope you're all doing well
20:31 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: as i see it, the dersturmer+dns folx are fixated on 'pushing', i.e. 'if i use raw ip, how will audience who sits with open mouths waiting for rain, know where the replacement box lives if isp evicts'
20:31 asciilifeform by all rights they oughta be using shortwave, not www
20:31 mircea_popescu hence why they are called socialists ; just as much so as their brethren pushing ourdemocracy.
20:32 asciilifeform ( why are there not digital shortwave crackpot stations
20:32 asciilifeform .?)
20:32 mircea_popescu and it's evident they both work for hitler, by all sorts of signs. remember the straggler chick that ended up in here, and found out by accident about how yiuy know, there are alternatives ?
20:32 mircea_popescu where is she now ?
20:32 asciilifeform i expect somewhere with open mouth, towards sky
20:32 mircea_popescu oh, mr. brian brainwashed her back into the inzone ?
20:33 asciilifeform didn't, iirc, show any signs of cure
20:33 asciilifeform to begin with
20:33 mircea_popescu my memory is that the summation read "o wow, you guys rock, i am very influential in my own tribe will redirect leadership tomorrow"
20:33 mircea_popescu turns out -- not influential. why not ?
20:33 asciilifeform i can picture:
20:34 asciilifeform leadership: 'stfu, we'll use signal, in iseland'
20:34 asciilifeform over tor tails
20:34 mircea_popescu i can picture too. that tribe, like the yarvin tribe, like the yukowsky tribe, like all the "alt" bullshits, exactly like "debian was an early apple appstore" and so on.
20:34 asciilifeform paid in zonero
20:34 mircea_popescu they have a consensus alright.
20:35 mircea_popescu "freedom of choice" aka "we will either choose coca cola"
20:37 asciilifeform choose! zerocoin or zcash or ethertardium!1!
20:37 asciilifeform classic or unlimited.
20:38 mircea_popescu the principle is evident in their tracts, too. "a guide so that ~anyone~ meet girls. you're not fundamentally broken, you just miss this software". right ? the important part of socialism, preserved. or you know, "racism" but never in the sense of "you joe are no good, go away", always in th4e sense of "we are so dedicated to collectiove salvation, we want to sacrifice a soandso identified auslander collective"
20:39 mircea_popescu there's entirely no difference between bush's "no kid left behind" and usgistani "fascist's" no derp left behind.
20:39 asciilifeform original fascists also had to make use of marginals
20:39 asciilifeform how else
20:39 mircea_popescu there are no marginals. this is the important point.
20:40 mircea_popescu genuine fascists shot the fucking infirm.
20:40 asciilifeform d00dz who fell through the floor of their civ for whatever reason
20:40 mircea_popescu these schmucks are not in any sense that ; they wish to "everyone", and wish it so deeply they are willing to take some COLLECTIVE limits, is all.
20:40 mircea_popescu in a sense, the "fascists" are more progressive than the "progressive"
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20:42 asciilifeform all 'mass movement' types fit this pattern
20:42 mircea_popescu perhaps.
20:42 mircea_popescu depends how you define "mass movement", if you define by the pattern then definitely.
20:42 asciilifeform you can't filter signal if all you got is noise
20:42 mircea_popescu would you call the push west a mass movement ?
20:43 asciilifeform exclusivity applied to homo redditus gives the null set.
20:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: was speaking of 'movement' in the pol.agitation sense, rather than 'there's gold in them hills'
20:44 mircea_popescu then of course it meets the pattern, you defined it on its basis.
20:45 mircea_popescu anyway, plenty of lulz to be had with the idiots. ask usgistani "extreme right" socialist flavour whether he'd shoot quadriplegic comatose septuagenarian white guy to save life of pregnant woman, race of father unknown.
20:45 mircea_popescu unlike the run of the mill pantsuit, they usually don't have the canned "we don't shoot anyone" cop out
20:46 asciilifeform can also ask the sacramental 'вилку в глаз , или в жопу раз ?'
20:46 mircea_popescu (gentle reminder : the odds of father being same race as mother is a hefty 99.5% today ; about same as it was in times and places where it was actually illegal.)
20:46 asciilifeform ( which is what the 'whom to kill' rebuses always remind me of )
20:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform they somehow got accepted by "scientific" efforts in ethics etc at harvard and so.
20:47 mircea_popescu don't ask me wtf sense they';re supposed to make, i dun see it.
20:47 asciilifeform same folx who gave us 'philosophical zombie' etc
20:47 asciilifeform qualia! tulpas!!
20:49 mircea_popescu in other almost lulz https://warosu.org/biz/thread/3659322#p3659725
20:49 asciilifeform dafuq's that
20:51 mircea_popescu apparently there was an announced pump of the bch scamcoin
20:51 mircea_popescu which fizzled.
20:53 asciilifeform https://i.warosu.org/data/biz/img/0036/59/1506689270035.jpg << via subj. win.
20:53 mircea_popescu lol
20:54 mircea_popescu anyway, numerically, mit&co burned some money to try and make the dead cat bounce towards .11, failed miserably within an hour, .1 looking doubtful.
20:54 asciilifeform also wtf is an 'announced pump' if not redditusbait put out pre dump.
20:55 mircea_popescu for instance, a "conference" ; an "Agreement", other consensuses. the so and so protocol. you name it.
20:56 asciilifeform https://pastebin.com/2nEbui0K << from subj also, a lulzy 'Русс Здавайсс'
20:56 asciilifeform ( is there a name for these in engl?? )
20:56 mircea_popescu i always like people who can't distinguish its value from it's time to suck my cock.
20:58 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-29#1718385 << which is to say up her own snatch.
20:58 a111 Logged on 2017-09-29 21:05 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it's so as not to stand out from the scenery when fighting on planets with pink vegetation and soil, clearly
20:59 asciilifeform can't think of where else on planet3, pink scenery
20:59 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: but it wasn't fiction, this is actual product, i saw it in store
21:00 mircea_popescu hey, i made respectable woman buy herself glitzy gold sequin shoes. it's a sex thing.
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21:00 asciilifeform pink, i shit ther not, stocks, grips, straps, etc
21:00 mircea_popescu "but i look like a bimbo" "that's precisely the idea"
21:00 asciilifeform once even saw barrel pink ( how ? and does it crack and flake when fired? i've nfi )
21:01 mircea_popescu pretty sure you can chrome them in colors.
21:01 asciilifeform dun think you can anodize to pink
21:01 mircea_popescu why not ?
21:01 asciilifeform at any rate it looked matte / painted
21:02 mircea_popescu lol. what'd you like the barrel to be ? rifled OR PAINTED ?
21:02 mircea_popescu "can you paint the rifling on ?"
21:02 asciilifeform hey it isn't so much moar idiotic than the ubiquitous, in monkeystans, gilded kalash
21:02 mircea_popescu "our quantum computer-based holographic imaging dept is working on a paint-on rifling solution sir!"
21:03 asciilifeform or for that matter sultan's yatagan with kg of j00lz
21:03 mircea_popescu those items were ceremonial. you've seen the sword of king who actually used it,
21:03 mircea_popescu iirc i linked pic.
21:03 asciilifeform aha and i'm sure chapo had also normal kalash
21:04 mircea_popescu well not in 1500
21:04 asciilifeform point being that pink m16 is equally ceremonial item
21:04 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-30#1718575
21:04 a111 Logged on 2017-09-30 01:00 mircea_popescu: hey, i made respectable woman buy herself glitzy gold sequin shoes. it's a sex thing.
21:05 asciilifeform possib.
21:05 asciilifeform you wouldn't do that to a rifle you actually expected to use as-designed tho.
21:06 mircea_popescu contrary to usg media depictions, women that can fire infantry weapons are not usually women you'd like to fuck.
21:07 mircea_popescu everywhere but on sony set -- exists recoil.
21:07 asciilifeform su chix-only sniping school somehow managed.
21:07 mircea_popescu (i don't even mean bulk per se. most fucktoys have eg delicate wrists. can't really use guns effecutally if your two fists together weigh less than a gulp of beer.)
21:08 asciilifeform and there are photos, the chix looked all right.
21:08 mircea_popescu asciilifeform they fired from platform yo.
21:08 asciilifeform from earth mostly aha
21:08 mircea_popescu i don't mean they can't fucking drive a car. i mean that they can't throw it.
21:08 asciilifeform modern tinybullet thing has precious little recoil tho
21:09 asciilifeform and massive springs
21:09 asciilifeform ( m16 in particular, it dun even feel like yer firing anything
21:09 asciilifeform )
21:09 mircea_popescu i guess.
21:10 mircea_popescu ah this ar thing fires the short nato round does it.
21:10 asciilifeform really exemplifies 'flavour' of modern american soldiering
21:10 mircea_popescu i dunno, i was thinking of the large rapper stuff automatically.
21:10 asciilifeform ergonomics, no bruises, 11 flavours of icecream.
21:10 mircea_popescu bruise, right ? "permanent bruise of infanterist".
21:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there's a 'designated marksman' version firing ye olde winchester long round. but less common , among hobbyists
21:11 asciilifeform mats prolly remembers details.
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22:43 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> choose! zerocoin or zcash or ethertardium!1! << But no longer KKKorea Koin http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/09/29/lesser-than-north-korea-joins-china-in-banning-ico-fad-ether-prices-drop-with-news/
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23:12 BingoBoingo http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2017/09/26/milwaukee-woman-charged-mayhem-followed-chase-loaded-tow-truck/703536001/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin= << An actual reality winner
23:13 BingoBoingo And a real butt bandit, pls no turdburglars https://archive.is/8fmuQ
23:18 BingoBoingo And Scottish firefighters are being trained to address the increase in Machete injuries afflicting TheQueenzDemoocracy https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/856238/Scottish-firefighters-trained-help-terror-victims
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23:58 mats m240b
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