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00:00 mod6 yeah, the madonna scene seems a bit forced or something.
00:00 mircea_popescu and tha tschmuck, what's his name. the fat kid, "son of boss" whatever. he's a terrible actor and drags the whole thing down.
00:00 mod6 oh Chris.. something or other
00:00 mircea_popescu chris penn ya
00:01 mod6 ya
00:01 mod6 thats it
00:01 mircea_popescu he's for rom coms and "true to life" films about hackers / stock exchange brokers / etc plox.
00:02 mircea_popescu but, yes, not terrible. you wanna see terrible, watch poolhall junkies.
00:02 BingoBoingo !!deed http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/dH0WR/?raw=true
00:02 mircea_popescu got chazz palminteri AND christopher walken, and plays like the 3rd placed highschool media lab production for 1986.
00:02 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/08/qntra-s-qntr-july-2017-report/ << Qntra - Qntra (S.QNTR) July 2017 Report
00:02 deedbot accepted: 1
00:03 mod6 i'll have to checkout poolhall junkies
00:04 phf i think i watched it on trilema review, ended up skipping through mostly
00:06 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> is that where they get the slightly aged strippers and do a sort of ... light daytime drama + staged "fights" ? << Yeah, then smackdown's the one they painted blue
00:06 mircea_popescu oh i wrote it ?
00:07 mircea_popescu ah yes, because of the whole stakhanovism bs
00:08 BingoBoingo <mod6> but again, i never get to use it. << Get a lumber yard gig
00:09 mircea_popescu i expect nothing but spanish spoken huh
00:10 mod6 yeah, i've got some friends who learned/speak spanish now because of their co-workers.
00:10 mod6 but it's generally a weird spanglish mix
00:12 BingoBoingo Nah, lots of English spoken by hobbyists who "just want to" and maintenance folk.
00:12 mod6 ah
00:12 BingoBoingo Good builders speak spanish
00:13 BingoBoingo Most spanish speakers will speak a weird spanglish to Gringos, until you make them stop and speak spanish
00:13 BingoBoingo You pick up a lot of vocabulary with "Como se dice"
00:13 BingoBoingo And pointing
00:14 mircea_popescu "como se dice follar ?" "no se dice. se hace."
00:15 BingoBoingo <mod6> oh Chris.. something or other << Chris Farley
00:15 mod6 na, Chris Penn, MP has it.
00:15 mod6 I just couldn't remember
00:15 BingoBoingo Ah
00:15 mircea_popescu his brother was pretty hot in that newman way, cca 1980.
00:15 BingoBoingo Now Sean Penn is mega roided up
00:16 mircea_popescu myeah
00:16 mod6 he was married to Madonna for a while 'eh?
00:17 mod6 shit, 30+ years ago iirc
00:17 BingoBoingo In his current straight to netflix gig's he's been Stalone in the 1970's and Arnold in the early 80's type 8-4% bodyfat sorta cut, but that mass dun impress on screen no more
00:17 mircea_popescu was he ?
00:17 BingoBoingo Now was, is now.
00:18 mircea_popescu honestly i thought madonna was married to a horse.
00:18 mircea_popescu a female horse.
00:18 BingoBoingo Before was a sorta paul newman/tom cruise but with horse face
00:18 BingoBoingo Now Sean Penn is low rent action figure with OLD sarah jessica parker horse face
00:18 phf i sort of assumed that chris penn and jonah hill is the same person. there was probably one in the 60-70s also
00:19 mircea_popescu o yeah, what ever became of that "talented" shithead ?
00:19 BingoBoingo !!up fromdeedbot
00:19 deedbot fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes.
00:19 mircea_popescu somehow these people don't seem to observe the contradiction between "talented" and "15 minutes of fauxfame"
00:19 BingoBoingo fromdeedbot: WHo is your daddy, and what does he do?
00:19 fromdeedbot It's not a tumor!
00:19 BingoBoingo It is a tumor
00:20 mircea_popescu wait, wut ?
00:20 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Age testing the n00bs
00:20 mircea_popescu phf i had to google this hill dood, and i still don't know who he is.
00:21 mod6 he was in a movie 'superbad', among some others.
00:21 mircea_popescu uncredited in walk hard. mmkay ?
00:22 mod6 Emma Stone was the main attraction in Superbad.
00:22 mircea_popescu imdb lists 60 credits and he's not been in anything. da fuck.
00:22 mircea_popescu mod6 is emma stone the pubescent chick from that franchise with the schoolhouse "wizards" and whatnot ?
00:23 mod6 dunno /me looks
00:23 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Hill's in pantsuit propaganda flicks, aka post humor stoner comedies
00:23 mircea_popescu "post humour" ie cancerous faggotry ? mmmmmkay.
00:24 mod6 mircea_popescu: maybe you're thinking of "Jennifer Stone" ?
00:24 BingoBoingo yeah
00:24 mod6 Wizards of Waverly Place or some shit
00:25 BingoBoingo The fanfic thing, it's an emma
00:25 mod6 ah, hmm. dunno.
00:25 mod6 Anyway /me likes redheads :]
00:26 mircea_popescu whisper in my ear clarifies i was thinking of one emma watson.
00:26 phf i saw him in the horrible wolf of wall street and then later in war dogs. both are millennial updates of greater movies, later one being a take on "lord of war". he basically plays the same character, young annoying and smug jew who gets what he wants on chutzpah, until he doesn't.
00:26 mod6 ahh, emma watson ya. from the wizard thing, gotcha.
00:27 mod6 phf: lol
00:27 mircea_popescu speaking of which, the libertards are exactly so described. they dare do the whole trilema rewrite thing, except their results aren't "the original improved, because closer to mp". their results are "the original, destroyed".
00:27 mircea_popescu chutzpah is not for schmucks!
00:28 BingoBoingo In other chutzpah https://archive.is/popJa
00:28 phf there's nothing good about any of this. i thought scorsese would know better, but there's no defense against old age
00:28 mircea_popescu phf and fucking anthony hopkins! wasting his time with the inane netflix crap! and ...
00:29 mircea_popescu well hgonestly, all of them. pacino doing bullshit incomprehensible, they all drank dumbweed.
00:29 BingoBoingo *smoked dumbweed
00:29 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo wait, was that nigger in the trilema sense ?!
00:30 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Everyone in that story, yes
00:30 mircea_popescu heh
00:30 BingoBoingo And the visual spectrum sense too
00:31 * mircea_popescu goes back to bergman.
00:31 phf dead directors won't have a chance to disappoint, there's a joke there somewhere about ex wives
00:39 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
00:39 BingoBoingo !~bcstats
00:39 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 478505 | Current Difficulty: 8.60221984436E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 479807 | Next Difficulty In: 1302 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
00:40 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2871.0, vol: 10949.50050683 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2871.7, vol: 26690.41450288 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2878.830513, vol: 8754.72170000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2900.327, vol: 7988.46455973 | Volume-weighted last average: 2876.91203784
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01:23 mircea_popescu !!up guest846723
01:23 deedbot guest846723 voiced for 30 minutes.
01:23 mircea_popescu guest846723 did you want to say something ?
~ 1 hours 57 minutes ~
03:21 BingoBoingo Ouija board https://archive.is/rb43A
03:24 jurov shinohai: it looks it's now OK?
~ 2 hours 9 minutes ~
05:34 jurov BingoBoingo: how could 2626+260 == 3993 ????
05:35 jurov you wrote the report sober or sth?
05:38 jurov oh the morning broke, i get it
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07:40 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691879 <<< Yes jurov, it appears it was on mpex side .... sorry for the inconvenience.
07:40 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 07:24 jurov: shinohai: it looks it's now OK?
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10:18 shinohai "Bitcoin Cash fork has still not mined a >1mb block and is now 8 blocks behind the Bitcoin blockchain." <<<lmao
10:32 mod6 mornin'
10:35 shinohai heya mod6 .... thought of you earlier, Mighty Ducks was on netflix
10:38 mod6 ahh, haha. they filmed that movie at some arenas I used to play in all the time.
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11:32 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691885 << o noes! but there was SUCH DEMAND FOR BIGGER BLOCKS!!!!
11:32 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 14:18 shinohai: "Bitcoin Cash fork has still not mined a >1mb block and is now 8 blocks behind the Bitcoin blockchain." <<<lmao
11:32 mircea_popescu !~ticker --market all
11:33 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2687.98, vol: 12214.37393640 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2681.5, vol: 41319.17544442 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2687.944289, vol: 22935.96470000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2694.996, vol: 12455.5303363 | Volume-weighted last average: 2685.94256135
11:33 mircea_popescu i guess the "everyone blathering about bitcoin was wrong, #trilema was right" articles are mysteriously not going to get published by bitcoin.com, coinbase.fakenews and etcetera.
11:34 mircea_popescu i dunno what i'm basing this wild notion on, really. i mean they're all truthful, useful and sane news venues, rite.
11:39 mircea_popescu and in other "blockchain world" lulz, http://imgur.com/ebLrV7X
11:40 mircea_popescu by the time they gotta try and farm cred by advertising on my fucking name, i would expect even the dumbest of the dumb in the crowd could perhaps figure out who's who and what's what.
11:40 mircea_popescu not like bruce dickinson is taking out google ads on "justin bieber" search strings, is he now.
11:41 mircea_popescu oh speaking of which! http://ironmaiden.com/whatdoesthisbuttondo/
11:53 mircea_popescu "oh anglotards have no male role models". well i wonder why the fuck that is ? maybe they're not born, yes ? somehow birth proportions changed because tiresome old spinsters say so. totally not because, to pick a random example, that the same trite old spinsters purported to give "bring your daugther to the slaughter" a "golden raspberry" for "worst original song" in 89, before being rescued by iron maiden into topping the ch
11:53 mircea_popescu arts.
11:54 mircea_popescu hurr durr, the oppinions of stupid old women matter ever so muchly! let's pay attention to what they have to say!
11:58 * mircea_popescu passes in loud silence over that case where sharon rachel "dumb whore" osbourne got so pissed off dickinson mocked her "talent" (reality tv) that she got her shithead of a husband to try and sabotage iron maiden's performance.
11:58 mircea_popescu totally not a case of tiresome old spinsters being ever-so aggressed at nobody giving a shit about their dumb selves.
12:00 mircea_popescu !!up Unique_one
12:00 deedbot Unique_one voiced for 30 minutes.
12:01 mircea_popescu o.O
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12:55 lobbes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691587 << ty for writing this up danielpbarron. I'll surely be leveraging this in round 2 of my general Gentoo quest even
12:55 a111 Logged on 2017-07-31 23:49 deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/gentoo-eulora-quest/ << Daniel P. Barron - Gentoo Eulora Quest
13:09 BingoBoingo !!deed http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/xFaNd/?raw=true
13:09 deedbot accepted: 1
13:10 BingoBoingo jurov: ty, forgot to edit my line in the copypasta process that is report assembly. http://qntra.net/wp-wordcount.php
13:12 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691729 << 1 of the few imho entertaining uses for toypads is the language gamez
13:12 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 03:41 mircea_popescu: only works after the 12th.
13:12 asciilifeform you can do hungarian or something else 'martian' that would never otherwise get to.
13:12 mircea_popescu what's a toypad ?
13:13 asciilifeform crapple etc
13:13 mircea_popescu i never saw that to usefully work.
13:13 asciilifeform depends on what is usefully
13:13 mircea_popescu yes, it does.
13:13 asciilifeform they used to have these for msdos too
13:13 asciilifeform (language gamez)
13:13 asciilifeform pretty low tech
13:13 mircea_popescu meanwhile, finding a native hungarian speaker is generally as easy as visiting the closest bordello.
13:13 asciilifeform rly? in cr?
13:14 mircea_popescu in a civilised country!
13:14 asciilifeform lol
13:14 mircea_popescu imo fine criterion for "am i living in civilised country".
13:14 asciilifeform anyway 'translate this' gamez don't beat harem method, noshit.jpg. but they beat learning by reading spam, which is how i did, e.g., ro
13:15 mircea_popescu "usefully" above meant "acquiring a capacity of expression not heretofore had".
13:15 asciilifeform expression not so much. readonly is attainable.
13:15 mircea_popescu ie, it's not "when i can sort-of mangle my english statements of my thoughts into pashtun", but when "i came up with this perfectly pashtun form of what i was thinking i have nfi how to put in english".
13:15 asciilifeform well yes
13:15 asciilifeform that'd be 'fluency'
13:16 mircea_popescu fluency is when one can interact with native speaker for some definite, common task without having to ask for breaks.
13:16 mircea_popescu the equivalent of "no need for flow control" in tcp/ip say
13:16 mircea_popescu much lower bar.
13:16 asciilifeform i think of 'fluency' as when i can translate poem
13:16 mircea_popescu that is poemy not fluency.
13:16 mircea_popescu and for the record, it is much higher bar than the above defined "usefully".
13:17 trinque I've only been using the tappyputer for flash card, pretty narrow part of "learn language"
13:17 trinque *cards
13:17 mircea_popescu much like eating your own cum is less disgusting than faire dinette.
13:17 asciilifeform trinque: i dun think comp is practical for any other level
13:18 mircea_popescu in fairness, when i was about 4 or 5 or so my parents wrote various pghone numbers of interest (such as my grandmother) on pieces of paper and afixed them about eye height around the house.
13:18 mircea_popescu for a few months i had to run and check, but eventually brain was "fuck this shit, im learning it".
13:18 * asciilifeform was shown once and learned...
13:18 mircea_popescu imo the only real use of the flash card : make it moderately motor inconvenient to check. then you'll learn
13:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu must have had many many relatives
13:18 mircea_popescu it's how i learned all the physics constants say, "fuck me if i have to check one more fucking time!"
13:19 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, just zero inclination to memorize anything.
13:19 mircea_popescu even today, if i'm trying to reference a girl it's 50% gonna be "you know, that one, with the hair". literally. then the girls have to sort out if i mean jodie foster or that chick we fucked once three months ago.
13:19 asciilifeform folx who are too easily persuaded to memorize, come to nogood
13:20 mircea_popescu everyone comes to nogood, and especially folks who are persuaded.
13:20 asciilifeform ( betcha everyone knows some )
13:20 trinque they become accountants or w/e
13:20 trinque terrible folks
13:20 asciilifeform trinque: what do accountants memorize ?
13:20 trinque tax law
13:20 trinque at least in hell
13:20 mircea_popescu the account plan.
13:20 asciilifeform i was thinking constant 'e'
13:20 mircea_popescu do you know the us account plan asciilifeform ?
13:20 mircea_popescu what's 322117 ?
13:20 asciilifeform can't say that i do !
13:20 mircea_popescu so yeah.
13:20 asciilifeform IANAA
13:21 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
13:21 mircea_popescu also, the CAEN or however you call the job numbers.
13:21 mircea_popescu also etc.
13:21 * asciilifeform hangs head, realizing that he has maybe two dozen rfc's memorized..
13:21 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2723.11, vol: 13318.13117936 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2725.4, vol: 44647.74211786 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2724.868511, vol: 23512.37310000 | Volume-weighted last average: 2724.87231206
13:21 mircea_popescu ha-HA!
13:22 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691747 << this almost suffices to qualify as crane operator!111
13:22 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 03:46 mircea_popescu: russian is easy. Xулы?! Нихуя! Нехуй расхуяривать ! Hахуячено нехуево! Похуйярили! is really all you need.
13:22 mircea_popescu ikr!
13:22 asciilifeform and in fact is how asciilifeform's father addressed subordinates
13:22 mircea_popescu lol
13:22 asciilifeform ( to productive result )
13:23 asciilifeform and no it dun translate, ends up soup
13:23 asciilifeform because the necessary ~structure~ ain't there in monkeylang
13:23 asciilifeform ( and some ~excess~ structure - e.g. inflexible word order - interferes )
13:23 mircea_popescu right.
13:24 asciilifeform ro dun suffer from these problems, so mircea_popescu knows how this worx.
13:25 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691887 << lol, the film with the pedo tardstalk sc4mz0r d00d in it
13:25 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 14:35 shinohai: heya mod6 .... thought of you earlier, Mighty Ducks was on netflix
13:25 asciilifeform !#s brock pierce
13:25 a111 73 results for "brock pierce", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=brock%20pierce
13:25 asciilifeform ^ subj
13:26 BingoBoingo What about the one with Pedo and Sinbad?
13:26 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691885 << this is lulzier considering that, iirc, the fork d00dz also monkeyed with the difficulty equation
13:26 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 14:18 shinohai: "Bitcoin Cash fork has still not mined a >1mb block and is now 8 blocks behind the Bitcoin blockchain." <<<lmao
13:27 shinohai !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ix2R1/?raw=true
13:27 jhvh1 shinohai: The operation succeeded.
13:27 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691587 << i nearly missed this spiffy piece
13:27 a111 Logged on 2017-07-31 23:49 deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/gentoo-eulora-quest/ << Daniel P. Barron - Gentoo Eulora Quest
13:29 asciilifeform afaik this recipe would not have helped hanbot: iirc in that case the machine would not even boot the installer ( and afaik no one ever found why )
13:30 asciilifeform the other thing that reading this reminded me of, is that probably tmsr gentoo mirror is inevitable
13:31 asciilifeform i have a collection of tarballs, and turning'em into a mirror is on the conveyor.
13:31 asciilifeform ( circa - mostly - 2011 )
13:31 trinque without proposing some hardware, no noob is gonna get the thing to work.
13:31 trinque afaik the sticking points are drivers and bootloaders.
13:32 asciilifeform trinque: looks like danielpbarron offered to sell some elementary hardware
13:32 asciilifeform ( presumably he has a warehouse of such )
13:32 asciilifeform whilesupplieslast.
13:33 trinque neato
13:33 shinohai https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=Bitcoin+ABC <<< ah, the good 'ol "Let's spin up 5k Amazon nodes to soical-engineer peeps into thinking we are popular" trick.
13:33 asciilifeform shinohai: they did the cheapo sybils thing last yr also
13:34 asciilifeform costs about what a loaf of bread does
13:34 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/08/roger-ver-ified-fork-fails-to-mine-block-in-four-hours-and-counting-exchange-rate-low/ << Qntra - Roger Ver-ified Fork Fails To Mine Block In Four Hours And Counting, Exchange Rate Low
13:34 shinohai Complete with handy script to spin up hundreds of docker instances in batch iirc
13:34 asciilifeform ^ what even means to have an 'exchange rate' for a shitcoin where nobody can mine a block ? how do you MOVE it
13:35 mircea_popescu trinque> afaik the sticking points are drivers and bootloaders. <<< yes, which is why the way danielpbarron packaged the deal is so intelligent.
13:35 mircea_popescu basically, he's ~= RHEL by his lone self.
13:35 asciilifeform iirc he has a crate of pogos also. could sell these as well gentooated.
13:35 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> ^ what even means to have an 'exchange rate' for a shitcoin where nobody can mine a block ? how do you MOVE it << Comments section is for the lulling about their insufficiency
13:35 mircea_popescu my crate of pogos lol.
13:36 mircea_popescu danielpbarron you wanna put it on teh market ?
13:36 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you don't understand, d00d! IT WAS FOR THE MASSES! THE DEMAND! PENT UP!
13:36 asciilifeform i suspect the pogos would fetch moar moolah if there were yet a gentoo for it
13:36 mircea_popescu i don't think niggers & pantsuits got so badly humiliated by anything in history. bitcoin rocks lol.
13:36 asciilifeform but should not take much sweat to cook one, use my recipe
13:37 mircea_popescu asciilifeform kinda the idea.
13:37 asciilifeform ( the kernel bringup is the fiddly bit, and i got it going nice an' smooth )
13:37 asciilifeform i also have a port for that other pogo-like thing, whose name escapes me at the present moment, 4 core beast, fiddybux or so
13:38 shinohai asciilifeform: You had recipe to gentoo-ize the pogo?
13:38 asciilifeform shinohai: linuxize
13:38 shinohai I think I spoke breifly w/ danielpbarron abt it
13:38 asciilifeform the gentoo userland is separate puzzle
13:39 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-02#1475150 << thread.
13:39 a111 Logged on 2016-06-02 15:29 deedbot: [Loper OS] Terraforming the “MyCloud Mini” : TTY. - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1644
13:39 asciilifeform ( re the pogolike box )
13:40 asciilifeform i found it when searching for year+ for suitable (GB/s nic, inexpensive) pogolikes
13:41 asciilifeform this one had a little bonus feature : clock battery
13:42 asciilifeform today there are probably other , similar boxes on the market, it's been >year since i bothered to look
13:42 asciilifeform i'd really prefer one with NEITHER x86 nor arm ( say, superH ) but can't have everything.
13:44 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691896 << iirc we saw one of these last yr
13:44 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 15:40 mircea_popescu: by the time they gotta try and farm cred by advertising on my fucking name, i would expect even the dumbest of the dumb in the crowd could perhaps figure out who's who and what's what.
13:44 mircea_popescu i'm sure.
13:49 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692001 << this is worth coming back to : it is 1 of the reason why linuxbios was useful
13:49 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 17:31 trinque: afaik the sticking points are drivers and bootloaders.
13:49 asciilifeform guaranteed boot into usefully-interactive thing
13:49 asciilifeform ( lilo etc in rom )
13:50 asciilifeform so you could actually diagnose wtf is happening on, e.g., that box where it wouldn't read the cd
13:50 asciilifeform recent boxes have big enough roms to stuff entire kernel in
13:50 asciilifeform which has other advantages.
13:50 asciilifeform ( 'recent' being past decade or so )
13:50 asciilifeform many old boxes that took lpc rom can be upgraded to bigger one, i will also note.
13:51 asciilifeform in some cases up to 8MB!
13:51 asciilifeform ( quite enough for any sane kernel of whatever type )
13:55 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692006 << since when do these derps list alts on same www as actual btc ?!
13:55 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 17:33 shinohai: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=Bitcoin+ABC <<< ah, the good 'ol "Let's spin up 5k Amazon nodes to soical-engineer peeps into thinking we are popular" trick.
13:55 asciilifeform ( i suppose -- 'since nao' )
13:58 mircea_popescu since forever afaik
13:58 mircea_popescu haven't they been listing eg prb ever since ?
13:59 asciilifeform prb wasn't truforked yet
13:59 asciilifeform ( afaik still not )
13:59 mircea_popescu still not bitcoin in any meaningful sense.
14:00 asciilifeform was in the sense that it grudgingly ate same blox
14:02 asciilifeform ... though i can see what mircea_popescu means. prb would not, iirc, eat a highS block. and several other types that trb happily eats.
14:03 mircea_popescu so then.
14:03 asciilifeform a rewind of the softfork nonsense would send prb to pluto
14:05 asciilifeform !!up p0nziph0ne
14:05 deedbot p0nziph0ne voiced for 30 minutes.
14:05 asciilifeform ...srsly?
14:06 p0nziph0ne ?
14:07 asciilifeform !~later tell danielpbarron 208.94.116.204loper-os.org unfortunately won't work : nsf co uses dynamic dns and thing won't even load correctly if requested by today's ip ( that's how they send ddos to hell on the cheap, long before there was shitflare etc )
14:07 jhvh1 asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
14:08 p0nziph0ne i am glad i have found this channel
14:08 asciilifeform !~later tell danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-24#1573247 << see thread.
14:08 a111 Logged on 2016-11-24 23:49 pete_dushenski: i keep getting forwarded to www.www.loper-os.org lol. wondering if i muntzed the /etc/hosts file or what.
14:08 jhvh1 asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
14:08 p0nziph0ne like your discussions
14:08 asciilifeform p0nziph0ne: introduce yourself ? who are you? what brought you here
14:09 p0nziph0ne my journey started at april this year
14:09 p0nziph0ne where it all began with monero
14:09 p0nziph0ne i read "when you care about privacy have a look at monero" in linux reddit
14:10 p0nziph0ne what i found out then was mindblowing
14:10 asciilifeform p0nziph0ne: what did you find out ?
14:10 asciilifeform !#s monero
14:10 a111 226 results for "monero", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=monero
14:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the no static ip thing is starting to be a problem
14:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it's the main problem of that hoster.
14:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform mirror it on phuctor server ?
14:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: but i get total ddosproofness ( tested empirically ) with five-nines uptime.
14:11 asciilifeform for literally 1$ or so per mo
14:11 asciilifeform ( varies on load )
14:12 mircea_popescu what difference does it make what dust it costs.
14:12 asciilifeform the difference that if i moved it literally ANYWHERE it would cost thousands/mo to get same performance
14:12 p0nziph0ne we are living in a world controlled by a few, to work in a slavery for hunting numbers and papers they call it dollar and euro
14:12 asciilifeform esp the part where i never have to fiddle with it at all.
14:12 mircea_popescu p0nziph0ne it's altogether dubious you do any work. so it's really win-win.
14:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform what's he mirroring anyway, a package ?
14:13 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nah, it was his list of wwws for hosts table
14:13 asciilifeform mircea_popescu-style
14:13 mircea_popescu ah
14:13 asciilifeform i dun have anything vital packagewise there. strictly civilian bl0g
14:14 mircea_popescu since deedbot reads its rss anyway, i suppose the altenrate route is to go through archive.
14:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform how did they say this in soviet, "we pretend to work, they pretend to pay us, long live the socialist republic" ?
14:15 asciilifeform approx
14:16 p0nziph0ne mircea_popescu: i like my work, its not hard for me at all, tbh i am bored its too easy atm, so i put more time into reading and finding interesting channels like this one
14:16 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it is interesting when these folx show up, you can almost ~smell~ reddit
14:16 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/why-god-has-died/ << Trilema - Why god has died.
14:16 mircea_popescu ^ perhaps of interest to his worship danielpbarron
14:17 mircea_popescu p0nziph0ne but what do you do ?
14:17 p0nziph0ne i work in the IT for more than 10 yrs
14:17 p0nziph0ne i had a steady learning curve
14:17 asciilifeform p0nziph0ne: what do you DO ?
14:17 asciilifeform as in, with own hands
14:18 p0nziph0ne looking for possibilities to grow my knowledge and learn from others
14:18 asciilifeform that is not a DO
14:18 mircea_popescu this is going well.
14:18 asciilifeform lol!
14:20 mircea_popescu and in today's "best of pantsuit poetry, all glory to ourdemocracy", http://www.mcgonagall-online.org.uk/gems/a-new-temperance-poem-in-memory-of-my-departed-parents
14:21 asciilifeform 'Whereas if he couldn’t get Whisky, Rum, or Brandy, / He wouldn’t do his work so handy' << lolgold
14:22 mircea_popescu "Therefore, in that respect let strong drink be abolished in time, And that will cause a great decrease in crime." right in line with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686100 , bridge over the centuries
14:22 a111 Logged on 2017-07-18 19:00 ag3nt_zer0: trinque no just worried about getting them out at august first
14:22 p0nziph0ne asciilifeform: but learning is a doing for me, or i might not get your question yet
14:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform guns kill people, rum robs people, you know how it is.
14:23 asciilifeform p0nziph0ne: q was, what is it they paid you for
14:23 asciilifeform for DOING
14:23 mircea_popescu p0nziph0ne earlier you put forth this proposition that someone is enslaving you and so on. the only problem with this view is whether you actually do anything that's worth stealing. it's perfectly possible you just sit at home all day and eat the govt's dole.
14:23 asciilifeform digging cable trenches? crapping our perl ? what.
14:25 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> ... though i can see what mircea_popescu means. prb would not, iirc, eat a highS block. and several other types that trb happily eats. << PRB will eat high S when in block. Will fail to propagate high S until mined.
14:26 mircea_popescu hm, actually i think bb has it.
14:26 asciilifeform iirc it wouldn't eat it if in block # > N (for some N)
14:26 asciilifeform i'ma check when i get home to the torture room.
14:26 mircea_popescu iirc they didn't have the gumption to actually change verification code.
14:26 ag3nt_zer0 hi all... who or what is that a111?
14:26 mircea_popescu ag3nt_zer0 log bot.
14:26 ag3nt_zer0 just grabbing randoms?
14:27 mircea_popescu hm ?
14:27 ag3nt_zer0 oh, no ok
14:27 ag3nt_zer0 i see you were referencing
14:27 mircea_popescu it reads out log lines when someone references the log it keeps. kinda how log bots work here.
14:28 trinque mircea_popescu: you latest article demolishes my lingering notion that the grease spot left where a god was killed can be called the same thing as him. or http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594911
14:28 a111 Logged on 2016-12-31 18:43 mircea_popescu: in any case, no, the clay colossi are all that - machinery, golums.
14:29 mircea_popescu the advantage of mythical time (which is what's involved whenever gods are discussed) is that you can flow it backwards as well as forwards.
14:32 p0nziph0ne mircea_popescu: i am pretty free in what i am doing, i may choose the topics by myself, its a comfortable position because i always look out for optimizations whether its automation or security as a benefit for all, employees, company/customers and of course through automation less workload for me
14:32 mircea_popescu trinque lulz of all time btw : the whole article was actually inspired by yest dmt discussion. (hence machine elves reference, which is in the field a term of art)
14:32 mircea_popescu p0nziph0ne i see.
14:33 p0nziph0ne i do not feel enslaved personal, but the system makes lot of people to money slaves, loosing its value daily
14:33 mircea_popescu let no one say psychotropics do not inspire creativity in sensitive people!
14:33 mircea_popescu p0nziph0ne so what's thje problem with a bunch of tards being slaves ?
14:33 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> iirc it wouldn't eat it if in block # > N (for some N) << No tienen bolludos por eso
14:33 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: in re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692127 >> http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=makefiles&%21v=0.10.0#1688
14:33 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 18:26 mircea_popescu: iirc they didn't have the gumption to actually change verification code.
14:33 asciilifeform ( seems to confirm my iirc )
14:34 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: cojones.
14:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform block version.
14:34 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: DER is encoding standard for signature, nothing about S
14:34 BingoBoingo DER stops the Gox "drop zeros"
14:35 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: cojones doesn't have the implication about size
14:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform bolludo from balls, argentine slang.
14:36 * asciilifeform believes
14:36 mircea_popescu anyway, without discussing all the rest of the matter : asciilifeform should a high-S block be included with version <3 that if would pass.
14:37 asciilifeform only if top 750 blox are <3
14:37 asciilifeform otherwise rejects.
14:37 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> expression not so much. readonly is attainable. << Way to make jump seems to be read a book, listen to speakers, interject, keep interjecting until you can swim in conversation
14:37 asciilifeform ( http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/chainparams.cpp?v=0.10.0#0119 , http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=0.10.0#2655 see also . )
14:38 asciilifeform this was the latest prb handily indexed by jurov . possibly different logic in moar recents.
14:38 mircea_popescu asciilifeform so at most prb goes away for a week.
14:38 mircea_popescu big whoop.
14:39 asciilifeform i didn't say it was a bigger woop.
14:39 asciilifeform but that mircea_popescu was actually right in 'prb != bitcoin' strictly.
14:39 mircea_popescu right. but i wouldn't say this qualifies as any sort of check.
14:39 asciilifeform it can be wedged apart with a relatively compact crowbar.
14:39 mircea_popescu but yes, prb is an amateurish attempt at a non-compliant bitcoin node.
14:40 asciilifeform i suspect that the real forkgold is in the ecc routines.
14:40 asciilifeform which are a fairly heavy chunk of voodoo, i've been slowly chewing through.
14:40 mircea_popescu with all sorts of silly/quirky/potentially dangerous misbehaviours, neither defined nor ennumerated, yet irresponsibly baked in. because monkeys loive to code, can't read code.
14:40 mircea_popescu like in that joke with the soviet policemen.
14:40 asciilifeform ( both openssl turd and the moar recent prb-proprietary one )
14:41 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/aiYBv << The DER tests, nothing about which S, which S wank came later https://archive.is/aiYBv
14:41 asciilifeform interestingly there does not, by all indications, exist anywhere anything like a sane implementation of ecdsa
14:41 asciilifeform to this day
14:41 mircea_popescu how would it ?
14:41 asciilifeform well, say somebody sat down an'... wrote one
14:41 mircea_popescu like... who ?
14:41 asciilifeform somebody!1111
14:41 mircea_popescu "there exists no standard plumbing in anthill". well... um...
14:42 mircea_popescu this is kinda not how anthill works.
14:42 asciilifeform currently i strongly suspect that it is possible to produce a technically valid ecdsa sig that will choke 1 particular ecctron but NOT another particular one.
14:42 asciilifeform instafork.
14:42 mircea_popescu possibru.
14:43 asciilifeform ( this is definitionally so if thing is sufficiently complex + ill-specified. )
14:43 asciilifeform currently i also suspect that the whole ecc 'fashion' was instituted specifically to prevent a ffa-style treatment.
14:44 mircea_popescu seems fertile ground for "gotcha" in any case.
14:44 asciilifeform aaha.
14:45 asciilifeform and i will note, if a cipher system REQUIRES a MB of source, it is not a cipher system but an overcomplicated practical joke
14:45 mircea_popescu how long was mpfhf, fifty lines ?
14:45 asciilifeform ( the question of whether it actually takes the mb -- will be settled when i get around to implementing )
14:45 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: depends in what. but not so long.
14:46 mircea_popescu so then 50 for a hash, say 100 for a cipher. seems fair to me.
14:46 asciilifeform i dunno how to fit a bignumtron in 100
14:46 asciilifeform ( 100 ~readable~ , clear ln )
14:46 mircea_popescu the cipher tho, not the gcd
14:46 asciilifeform if somebody does -- plz write in.
14:46 asciilifeform i am counting whole shebang
14:47 mircea_popescu well what, including display bindings ? the kernel ?
14:47 asciilifeform ffa for instance does NOT rely on an os
14:47 asciilifeform or kernel
14:47 mircea_popescu it's fine if it imports its maffs.
14:47 asciilifeform being present at all
14:47 asciilifeform it is portable to micros
14:47 asciilifeform all you need is a putbyteuart and getbyteuart
14:47 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686859 << see also
14:47 a111 Logged on 2017-07-19 19:00 asciilifeform: i have 'p' structured such that all it wants i/o-wise is a 'getbyte' and 'putbyte' that operator can replace with whatever
14:53 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-13#1669719 << seealso
14:53 a111 Logged on 2017-06-13 23:13 asciilifeform: >> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/lBzDS/?raw=true << from the archives of asciilifeform : simple c example of The Only Driver
14:53 asciilifeform http://archive.is/OqECs for posterity.
14:53 asciilifeform ^ minimal x86 'os' in c.
14:54 asciilifeform worx everywhere from 386 to whatever's on your desk.
14:54 asciilifeform ( may have to change the constant in line 3 . )
14:59 mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691984 << looool. yes, apparently, he was in this movie.
14:59 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 17:25 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691887 << lol, the film with the pedo tardstalk sc4mz0r d00d in it
15:12 mod6 they told us at the time, "Hey, you can be an extra in the movie if you want... it doesn't pay anything, just have to stand there for 12 hours a day..." Fuck that, we were too busy playing grab-ass with the figure-skaters.
15:14 danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692017 << very much so yes, but I have not figured out how to gentoo a pogo unfortunately. I wasn't aware that there was a published recipe for it but i'll check out the loper OS article on the MyCloud Mini thing
15:14 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 17:36 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you wanna put it on teh market ?
15:18 danielpbarron i must admit, working with the pogo makes me feel quite stupid. brings back that fear I used to get when working on normal computers "oh no will it no longer boot? i'm screwed!"
15:18 asciilifeform danielpbarron: use my boot-on-tftp recipe
15:18 asciilifeform doesn't touch the rom
15:18 asciilifeform it was how i sweated out the pogorotor thing
15:18 asciilifeform ( bonus, gives ooda loop of 5sec or so )
15:21 danielpbarron is that for getting into it in the first place so that something more permanent can be installed?
15:22 asciilifeform danielpbarron: strictly for dev work
15:22 asciilifeform ~useless in any other case
15:28 shinohai Well almost *6* hours later the tards finally manage to mine a block.
15:28 shinohai This is good for coffeecoin
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15:47 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/08/roger-ver-ified-fork-finally-mines-a-block/ << Qntra - Roger Ver-ified Fork Finally Mines A Block
15:48 BingoBoingo <mod6> they told us at the time, "Hey, you can be an extra in the movie if you want... it doesn't pay anything, just have to stand there for 12 hours a day..." Fuck that, we were too busy playing grab-ass with the figure-skaters. << What you have to do is speak during a take that is too good to exclude, get your SAG card.
15:49 BingoBoingo !~calc 8/36
15:49 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: 8/36 = 0.2222222222222222
15:50 BingoBoingo ^ MEGA thoroughput increase
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16:05 BingoBoingo !!up Birdman
16:05 deedbot Birdman voiced for 30 minutes.
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16:31 mircea_popescu mod6 there are worse asses to grab than figure skater's.
16:32 mod6 oh for sure. figure skaters often has nice asses. we like.
16:33 mircea_popescu gotta stamp for approval also.
16:33 mod6 :]
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17:31 f1maze do I have to verify with deedbot everytime I connect?
17:32 f1maze lol
17:32 mircea_popescu yes. an' also stop join/parting all the time
17:33 f1maze Is it that often? I connect/disconnect when arriving and leaving work, and when I get home
17:34 mircea_popescu so get a bouncer maybe ?
17:34 BingoBoingo Set up a bouncer before you get a tumour
17:34 f1maze I dont know what that is
17:34 f1maze guys, I'm new here
17:34 mircea_popescu see how many things you learn here :D
17:35 shinohai Google for `znc` or `weechat` f1maze .... you're welcome
17:39 trinque curious what f1maze thinks would be the alternative to deedbot auth each time
17:42 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692139 << young trinque was deeply insulted by the chemical spirits that, no matter which he took, never saw a damn thing cept woobly versions of plain old reality.
17:42 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 18:32 mircea_popescu: trinque lulz of all time btw : the whole article was actually inspired by yest dmt discussion. (hence machine elves reference, which is in the field a term of art)
~ 19 minutes ~
18:01 BingoBoingo Just remember kids, a lawnmower is simply an underpowered helicopter flipped over
18:11 shinohai "http://pool.bitcoin.com is being DDoS'd. Small blockers are nothing better than militant terrorists" <<< BUT OF COURSE!!!!
18:14 f1maze BingoBoingo: I added nitrous to my lawnmower to make it a hovercraft
18:27 mircea_popescu keks shinohai
18:28 mircea_popescu russian hackers, it prolly was.
18:31 shinohai Prolly ddosin' themselves, what with the 1 hour+ blocktimes this shit has
18:33 mircea_popescu "d"dosing
18:34 shinohai The.y wanted the D
18:38 mircea_popescu meanwhile in ponytail adventures, http://68.media.tumblr.com/c4dcffc267d4f553fcb90a66bcaa584f/tumblr_o4r93t1zGs1uxrkulo1_1280.jpg
18:44 mircea_popescu !!up pa1atine
18:44 deedbot pa1atine voiced for 30 minutes.
18:44 pa1atine hi
18:44 mircea_popescu ello
18:44 pa1atine i think i got around at generating my key
18:45 pa1atine i also posted it on wtopaste
18:45 pa1atine anybody so kind to give me further pointers?
18:45 mircea_popescu what is it that you need ?
18:46 pa1atine well, how to register it with deedbot
18:46 shinohai pa1atine: http://deedbot.org/help.html
18:46 pa1atine ty
18:48 shinohai https://twitter.com/poisonmadam/status/892514378314076160 <<< "Who's brave enough to carve My initials *MP* into their skin and DM Me the proof? I want you to suffer for Me boys. "
18:48 shinohai kek
18:48 mircea_popescu lmao.
18:48 mircea_popescu what was the usg gdp/usd backed by, again ? "creativity" was it ?
18:48 pa1atine !!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/W5MZw/?raw=true
18:48 deedbot AAC0378219053AFD79AFA4D8861DF5C40C813682 is already registered as pa1atine.
18:49 mircea_popescu " Could anyone really believe the earth was going to swallow up the incredible productive assets and unlimited human ingenuity existing in America?", to quote.
18:50 shinohai So now pa1atine you already have key registered, you just need to /msg deedbot !!up (assuming someone has rated you)
18:50 mircea_popescu !!gettrust deedbot pa1atine
18:50 deedbot L1: 0, L2: 0 by 0 connections.
18:51 pa1atine i did it this morning, but it didn't seem to work out at the time
18:51 mircea_popescu so who are you, who do you know, what are you doing ?
18:51 shinohai Lettuce hope you retained your private key
18:52 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/ardilla-al-dente/ << Trilema - Ardilla al dente!
18:52 pa1atine mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690419
18:52 a111 Logged on 2017-07-27 21:43 palatine: i'm a lawyer by profession and trying to escape the barn in general
18:52 mircea_popescu ah you changed your name
18:53 mircea_popescu !!rate pa1atine 1 Italian lawyer guy, apparently.
18:53 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tqGg1/?raw=true
18:53 pa1atine changed the nick, since irc said was already registerd
18:53 mircea_popescu !!v 7FF08C6B5987A00EC3901DEF95DDBCAB55E64CA676EB7E1588AC133B0B0951A5
18:53 deedbot mircea_popescu rated pa1atine 1 << Italian lawyer guy, apparently.
18:53 mircea_popescu there, you can self voice now.
18:53 shinohai Ardilla, lol ... when I was in CA I got thrown back by *iguana tacos*
18:53 pa1atine ty
18:54 mircea_popescu shinohai it's eaten here too. iguana i mean.
18:58 shinohai Has mircea_popescu tried this delicacy?
~ 29 minutes ~
19:27 mircea_popescu nope
19:28 mircea_popescu i only ever saw it in either teh bidonvilles or the very dubious cheapo vendors, and it never appealed.
19:36 pa1atine that is a fucking achievement
19:37 mircea_popescu wd.
19:37 mircea_popescu in other lulz, here's the top employers for pierce country (wa) : jblm, 66k ; public schools, 13.5k ; obamacare etc 7k ; the state of washington 6.5k, the franciscan health system (about as franciscan as the ny jewish stuff) : 5.5k ; the county of pierce : 3k ; the state-owned universities : 2.5k ; fred meyer stores : 2.5k.
19:37 mircea_popescu !~calc 2.5/(66 + 13.5 + 7 + 6.5 + 5.5 + 3 + 2.5 + 2.5)
19:37 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: 2.5/(66 + 13.5 + 7 + 6.5 + 5.5 + 3 + 2.5 + 2.5) = 0.023474178403755867
19:38 mircea_popescu 2.3% "private", for a definition of "private" that essentially reduces to walmart. if it were properly private fred meyer would just be the stamp on the local scrip.
19:39 mod6 evenin'
19:39 mircea_popescu meanwhile here's what bloomberg hasd to say about... oh you've guessed it, putin : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-17/putin-revives-soviet-deal-of-pretend-work-and-pay-to-hide-crisis
19:39 mircea_popescu ~~~PUTIN~~~ is hit by a recession because of his inept policies ; and ~~~PUTIN~~~ is trying to hide the crisis. and so on and so forth.
19:39 mircea_popescu reading fakepapers is such a riot.
19:39 ben_vulpes what fraction of folks work for operations not on the biggest list?
19:40 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes how would you calculate this ?
19:40 mircea_popescu they're all in the tide dollar trade i'd expect, who the fuck would work for bezzlar if not on the biggest list
19:40 ben_vulpes "but mp, half of people work for small companies!!1"
19:41 mircea_popescu "and get paid in fucks"
19:41 mircea_popescu anyway, tacoma pop is 195k if that helps, of which 45k famblies.
19:41 mircea_popescu so i'd expect 0% work outside of that biggest list.
19:41 ben_vulpes pierce county 795k
19:42 mircea_popescu i thought the whole fucking sounds region was like 1mn
19:42 f1maze https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken
19:42 ben_vulpes incl. seattle?!
19:42 f1maze needs peer review I'd imagine^^
19:42 mircea_popescu well no, not seattle. the sounds.
19:42 ben_vulpes ah
19:42 ben_vulpes f1maze: is this steemit thing plagiarizing the logs or what
19:43 mircea_popescu i suspect steemit is a sort of how did they call that alt-disqus/alt-github "let us steal your content" thing ?
19:43 mircea_popescu comium ? dorkium ?
19:43 mircea_popescu medium!
19:43 f1maze He does cite some logs
19:44 f1maze in previous work
19:44 ben_vulpes mm
19:45 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: not that i dispute that boeing, ms, and ~everything in that neighborhood are no more than imperial outposts
19:46 mircea_popescu if boeing is private, then i have no fucking idea what "state owned" would mean. they do pay their debts every ~15 years or so neh
19:46 mircea_popescu sort-of like the "independent, career-oriented business woman" with a string of "serial entrepeneurship" consisting of hair salons her bf at the time bought for her.
19:47 ben_vulpes remainder sliver is ad tech and masters degree holders pouring cocktails
19:47 mircea_popescu (i've met a bunch of these btw, insane and incomprehensible as the item may appear in theory)
19:48 mircea_popescu meanwhile in "fake tits and great attitude", http://68.media.tumblr.com/d832f2f93f38b074d0589482036c4d75/tumblr_o9l3uv1Uhj1udxojxo1_1280.jpg
19:54 BingoBoingo !~bcstats
19:54 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 478627 | Current Difficulty: 8.60221984436E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 479807 | Next Difficulty In: 1180 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 25 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
19:54 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
19:55 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2732.0, vol: 12511.66342067 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2731.0, vol: 42322.12733475 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2727.846511, vol: 23790.16560000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2731.972, vol: 13156.3264475 | Volume-weighted last average: 2730.45824516
19:57 mircea_popescu oh incidentally, speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691609 : word re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688636 ? maybe by next report ?
19:57 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 00:03 mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation's ``State Of Bitcoin Address'': http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-August/000270.html
19:57 a111 Logged on 2017-07-21 18:42 ben_vulpes: interesting
19:59 * mod6 re-reads
20:00 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> i suspect steemit is a sort of how did they call that alt-disqus/alt-github "let us steal your content" thing ? << http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691555
20:00 a111 Logged on 2017-07-31 22:11 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aged tardstalk account, apparently posts on altcoin attempt at making a reddit that pays like a Qntra
20:01 mircea_popescu anything works, really, from "we're not even going to consider this dumb shit" to "we've considered it and it's not useful" etc ; with or without a "we'd like to see proposal more in the X vein" or "we're not even going to consider anything, for reasons" or whatever. as it is i have nfi whether you specifically excluded it, for later, forever, or just too small to talk about or or anything really.
20:01 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo oh, is steemit owned by the anonymint guy ?
20:01 BingoBoingo Not that I'm aware of
20:02 BingoBoingo Apparently only person writing things people read there
20:02 BingoBoingo micropayments thing
20:02 mircea_popescu ah
20:04 BingoBoingo Kinda how /r/buttcoin started as Something Awful and is now all Stolfi's regrets
20:05 mircea_popescu lol is this the latin america orc dreaming he's like human and university professor like the whites and everything ?
20:05 mircea_popescu still around and everything ?
20:07 BingoBoingo Well dunno about university professor part
20:07 BingoBoingo but still on reddit
20:08 mircea_popescu how about the fat girl ?
20:08 mircea_popescu scienceateyou or what was it.
20:11 ben_vulpes http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-8-2#174580 << zany and interesting; we'll have more to say by next report absolutely
20:11 mimisbrunnr Logged on 2017-08-02 00:00 mircea_popescu: anything works, really, from "we're not even going to consider this dumb shit" to "we've considered it and it's not useful" etc ; with or without a "we'd like to see proposal more in the X vein" or "we're not even going to consider anything, for reasons" or whatever. as it is i have nfi whether you specifically excluded it, for later, forever, or just too small to talk about or or anyth
20:11 mircea_popescu cool
20:15 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo amazon buying whole foods check it out.
20:17 mircea_popescu oh also, did we do http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/attack-iraq-embassy-kabul-reported-170731071753080.html ?
20:17 deedbot http://www.contravex.com/2017/08/01/just-do-it/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Just Do It.
20:20 mircea_popescu and in other chipotle lulz, http://www.stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2017/08/01/safirstein-metcalf-llp-announces-that-a-class-action-has-been-filed-against
20:24 mircea_popescu oh, also : http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20170728005619/en/LEAD-PLAINTIFF-DEADLINE-ALERT-Faruqi-Faruqi-LLP/ "Lastly, the report stated that Indonesian Supreme Court documents describe “torture ships” that implicate the Company in “the modern-day slavery that has infected pockets of South East Asia’s fishing industry”.
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20:55 asciilifeform in other noose, zoolag is back in service
20:55 asciilifeform ( nfi why went down, linux is 'helpful' as always )
20:58 mod6 hi asciilifeform
20:58 asciilifeform heya mod6
20:58 asciilifeform what's new in mod6dom
20:59 mod6 not too much. had some meatballs the size of my head damn near.
20:59 mod6 does a body good.
20:59 asciilifeform neato
21:00 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: how was the retreat?
21:00 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: not over yet. i'm on a short vacation from vacation
21:00 asciilifeform then going right back.
21:01 ben_vulpes sounds lovely
21:01 * ben_vulpes formally embarking on homeorificequest
21:05 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692210 << beautiful
21:05 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 18:53 asciilifeform: http://archive.is/OqECs for posterity.
21:05 asciilifeform lol it's not exactly high tech
21:05 phf precisely
21:05 asciilifeform in fact i had similar (nao lost , sadly, to disk rot ) item from uni hw
21:07 asciilifeform ( maybe phf remembers ! cs 412 at umd )
21:08 asciilifeform but in point of fact, no joak, you dun need ANY moar of an os than ^ above, to do usefulwork.
21:09 asciilifeform most particularly you don't need writable storage. i'ma make a demo box with 'p' and no nonvolatiles.
21:09 phf of course, i took mine with hicks (who has a rather ridiculous photo of himself on his umd page, http://www.cs.umd.edu/%7Emwh/ )
21:09 asciilifeform lol i had nfi d00d still in biznis
21:11 mircea_popescu lmao sikrit squirrel.
21:12 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692309 << i get paywall
21:12 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 23:39 mircea_popescu: meanwhile here's what bloomberg hasd to say about... oh you've guessed it, putin : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-17/putin-revives-soviet-deal-of-pretend-work-and-pay-to-hide-crisis
21:14 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692321 << ahahahaha another fine production of 'let's read #trilema and never cite', так победим! folx
21:14 a111 Logged on 2017-08-01 23:42 f1maze: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken
21:15 asciilifeform 'The flaw is that the set of transactions mixed together that provides the anonymity set, is never all of the unspent transactions (UTXO) on the blockchain.' followed by various spurious deductions and push of 'zerocash' scamcoin
21:15 phf aww, hicks has been pimping cyclone back when i took his class too, now he has to say on his page "Cyclone, a safe dialect of C. Cyclone's system for manual memory management was influential in the development of Rust." we are relevant!!1
21:16 phf of course cyclone is an order of magnitude higher technological achievement than rust. reminds me of common lisper "we brought garbage collector java". so it goes.
21:16 asciilifeform poor buggers, stuck 'invent typesafe optimizing compiler' when ada already existed in 1982
21:17 asciilifeform but you won't get tenure for 'let's ada'
21:17 asciilifeform just as you won't for 'let's rsa'
21:17 asciilifeform ( see thread re latter subj from last march )
21:17 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nothing substantial. http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/hubAh/?raw=true
21:17 asciilifeform lollamatic
21:17 mircea_popescu phf reminds me of fucktard murdock "oh, we were first apple store"
21:18 mircea_popescu the substance of ineptitude is getting the dumbass to sell his ass cheap.
21:21 mod6 <+phf> of course, i took mine with hicks (who has a rather ridiculous photo of himself on his umd page, http://www.cs.umd.edu/%7Emwh/ ) << heh
21:23 phf relevant http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_T792V0_uoCw/R6T6hAIArPI/AAAAAAAAAWk/8zJzYpskpNA/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/PBF244-Preach_Skate.jpg
21:23 asciilifeform ahahahahayes
21:32 phf https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2017/08/01/maritime-supremacy/ << "The new aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford has all sorts of high-tech gear equipped for 21st century naval warfare. But there is one thing that male sailors will notice is no longer available: Urinals."
21:33 mircea_popescu holy shit this is stupid.
21:33 mod6 piss-jugs swabby!
21:33 mircea_popescu the REASON urinals exist is because you can satisfy about 3x as many toilet needs per unit space thios way.
21:33 asciilifeform y'know, pissing in pants where you stand takes even LESS space
21:33 asciilifeform why not do that.
21:33 phf "When he is designing a bathroom, Kaufman says he is required to allot around 1,500 square inches of space for a urinal. A toilet needs more than 3,300 square inches. … “Why would you want the ship to be bigger just for fixtures?” said Kaufman. “You can get twice as many urinals as water closets.”"
21:34 asciilifeform and why does a ship even need urinals ? piss over the rail.
21:34 mircea_popescu tbh, if i ran the us navy it'd be all urinals -- but wall style not separates ; and turkish toilets (no enclosure). and all showers are open space.
21:34 phf ^
21:34 mircea_popescu if you can't shit squatting / wash naked with 100 other dudes you go straight overboard in a sack.
21:35 mircea_popescu this is the navy not fucking uncle natasha's farm.
21:35 asciilifeform iirc they had ~this prior to the chix captains thing
21:35 mircea_popescu what the fuck is the big deal anyway. what, they'll fuck her if she soaps her snatch on the deck ?
21:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform pissing over rail is ~same as "puke out window of bus on highway". works better in theory than in practice.
21:38 mircea_popescu (btw, my 3x above is correct figure, obtained fgrom busy bar/club experience. the surface doesn't do it justice, you need 150% longer to use a toilet to pee than if you peed on the wall.)
21:38 mircea_popescu so it's like 2.1x space 1.45x time or such.
21:40 f1maze Ugh, what a long day. My head is ready to explode http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Nj9YV/?raw=true
21:40 mircea_popescu lmao
21:41 mircea_popescu wouldja stop posting random rambling nonsense from the shannon noise farm ?
21:43 f1maze Certainly, can be humourous at times though! sorry
21:57 f1maze at least I dont join/part as much as the deep book^
21:58 f1maze But seriously, time for me to unplug and get back to work. I will get the bouncer to help out my spam. Sorry farewell!
21:58 phf a bouncer is a handy exercise in unixology, but you can also reduce the spam by joining only when you have something to say, or want to participate in conversation, and read the logs through web otherwise
21:59 phf (that's what i do, i just also have a bouncer, so it's hard to see)
21:59 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/129A347F21965ACCD69200D74735A3512C82825DBD99559959519CE018F8CAEE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1590...8143 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '71.6.152.10 (ssh-rsa key from 71.6.152.10 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown US CA)
21:59 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/129A347F21965ACCD69200D74735A3512C82825DBD99559959519CE018F8CAEE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1536...1327 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '71.6.152.10 (ssh-rsa key from 71.6.152.10 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown US CA)
22:07 mircea_popescu i guess it only goes to show most spam is done by pointless crap.
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22:25 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-02#1692429 << ever lived in a house with a leaking reddit pipe ?
22:25 a111 Logged on 2017-08-02 01:40 f1maze: Ugh, what a long day. My head is ready to explode http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Nj9YV/?raw=true
22:25 asciilifeform terrible thing
22:25 asciilifeform out, out, it seeps.
22:26 asciilifeform bad enough when leakage is out on the sidewalk.
22:39 mircea_popescu lol. can't say as i have.
22:43 mircea_popescu and from the "better clothes for women" dept, http://68.media.tumblr.com/34b8a7e51056c6489e34c365ad59fcb5/tumblr_nzul5ySdSK1rv5c0vo1_1280.jpg
22:51 * shinohai The Baron Titsbare approves ......
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23:10 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo amazon buying whole foods check it out. << Yeah, Amazon is headed for a Trump confrontation
23:23 mircea_popescu aha.
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23:44 BingoBoingo Trump is going to have to hit Bezos with the Teddy Roosevelt anti-trust stick, killing the Amazon Wapo's credibility on the way
23:46 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2017/07/a-quick-faq-about-the-not-bitcoin-fork-bitcoin-cash/#comment-106710
23:48 mircea_popescu seems likely dunnit
23:50 BingoBoingo Almost inevitable at this point. Possibly this might be the ONLY actual point of contention between Trump and Sessions.
23:52 mircea_popescu how the fuck is he going to run a socialist soviet with antitrust laws on the books is anyone's guess.
23:52 mircea_popescu what, a herd of mini-czars for each fieldf, holding plenaries ?
23:53 BingoBoingo That's kinda what Hussein Bahamas tried.
23:54 BingoBoingo Anyways, at present the stick exists. Jeff Bezos is asking for it.
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