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01:41 mircea_popescu lol @qatar dorks, "our commitment to the us is a solid commitment".
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11:40 asciilifeform in other noose, https://hi-tech.mail.ru/news/elbruce-prices << supposedly, retail, ~2300 usd
11:41 asciilifeform still not found any sign of reseller who would actually take an order
11:45 mircea_popescu it helps confidence that it's misspelled.
11:47 asciilifeform top inglisch, yes
11:49 asciilifeform interestingly there's ~0 material in english on subj ( other than 3rd hand re-chewed crud ) -- period
11:49 asciilifeform thing is very much not oriented for foreign market.
11:49 asciilifeform ( mega-unsurprise )
11:50 asciilifeform ( asciilifeform got 0 replies to his inquiries from 'baikal' , incidentally. )
11:51 mircea_popescu remember when the icbc had no listing in reich paper mills, except for something tiny in the pink sheets ?
11:51 asciilifeform aha
11:51 mircea_popescu apparently apple could buy russia ; but icbc, which not only "could" but ACRTUALLY BUYS america (not the fucking us shithole, THE WHOLE CONTINENT), that dun exist, never happened, etc.
11:52 asciilifeform farmer does not issue stock to sell to his cows, no.
11:52 mircea_popescu but cows ain't trying to buy it either!
11:52 asciilifeform what'd be the point.
11:52 mircea_popescu tgat;s the more shocking part.
11:52 mircea_popescu anyway, didn't you get some reply from ivan turbinka or somesuch ?
11:53 asciilifeform autoanswerer
11:53 asciilifeform try it yourself, you'll get same.
11:53 mircea_popescu right
11:53 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
11:53 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2788.12, vol: 18815.04747206 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 2700.0, vol: 7373.16894 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2744.5, vol: 22911.51749568 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2802.257942, vol: 14599.04950000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2780.019, vol: 9126.38685515 | Volume-weighted last average: 2767.29400839
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12:14 mircea_popescu why so little!
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12:36 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-failure-mode-of-abundance/#comment-122188
12:41 mircea_popescu !!key ganabitcoins
12:41 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/B4690E16082FA86E1D440ADB5C55D771C3965D17.asc
12:44 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/the-failure-mode-of-abundance/ << Trilema - The failure mode of abundance
12:46 asciilifeform in other lulz, https://archive.is/pbE6V >> 'The user can choose a device number that corresponds to a terminal currently in use by another user. This allows an attacker to run any command allowed by sudo with read and write access to an arbitrary terminal device. ... As before, the bug is specific to Linux systems that have SELinux enabled ...'
12:47 asciilifeform https://archive.is/4abCk << demo of subj
12:48 mircea_popescu o look, security enabled insecurity! how typical.
12:50 asciilifeform run moar nsaware.
12:50 * asciilifeform always wondered what somebody gotta have in his crankcase instead of brains, to run selinux
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12:55 mircea_popescu dod mandated yo!
12:55 asciilifeform you'd be amazed at what gets mandated, aha
12:55 asciilifeform and where.
12:57 asciilifeform still a bit of a puzzler, who ~voluntarily~ uses the thing. 'why do you have an incense burner in your house?' 'they're required at church' 'yes but...'
13:03 mircea_popescu hey. if security were an objective state, trompi wouldn't have centered the software of females around it.
13:04 asciilifeform in other noose, asciilifeform learned that a very recent chinese fpga board : AX516 ( http://esys.ir/images/img_Item/1158/Files/AX516_usermanual.pdf ) includes RTL8211EG , GB nic !! and cheapo.
13:05 mircea_popescu was that blobless ?
13:05 asciilifeform this might sound like a snore, but isn't : thing is wires as 'port', rather than as bus
13:05 asciilifeform *wired
13:05 mircea_popescu so what, no dma ?
13:05 asciilifeform in this configuration it does not in fact matter what is inside the nic (if you think about it)
13:05 asciilifeform aha
13:05 mircea_popescu o.O
13:06 asciilifeform not unless author of fpga circuit chooses to arrange it pc-style (and why!)
13:06 mircea_popescu this is a major development.
13:06 asciilifeform they sell a 1GB and 2GB dram version
13:06 mircea_popescu see alf, I TOLD YOU teh chinese will break it. did i tell you ?
13:06 asciilifeform they didn't break anything, it's still a stock xilinx chip
13:06 asciilifeform but major step ahead in laziness, now i dun have to draw this board
13:07 asciilifeform to prototype xilinx+GB
13:07 asciilifeform ( layout for high-speed fpga is a royal bitch )
13:07 mircea_popescu the whole dispute re theory of future of computing, years ago, was you making the (otherwise very solid) case for nsa/tivo-ization, and me saying "i betcher the chinese will break it, inadvertently".
13:08 mircea_popescu and you were "they're dumb as rocks". which is true, they are, there's no dumber beast than the asian. nevertheless -- to break it inadvertently they don't need deliberate, directed effort. they just need to be numerous and take themselves seriously. which they are.
13:09 asciilifeform dun get quite so hot an' bothered, it's still made of traditional xilinx (which needs the massive toolchain) and still contains sdram ( for which no controller other than xilinx's , works ) but this board is actually useful -- in comparison with my existing aging 'ml501' ( as pictured in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=702 , http://www.loper-os.org/?p=797 )
13:10 mircea_popescu no no the sky is falling!!1
13:10 asciilifeform summary of noose piece is 'xilinx+GBnic is nao cheap, who wants -- can get'
13:11 asciilifeform and handy demo of the principle 'sanely hooked up nic is harmless regardless of how boobytrapped, use port not bus'
13:12 mircea_popescu goes right back to the tmsr principle of security through modularization.
13:13 asciilifeform a board entirely like this, but minus all of the superfluous peripherals, and with sram in place of dram, would be quite spiffy ( i've a half-drawn one here, but it sits and waits for its hour )
13:14 asciilifeform ( theoretically -- a comp needs only fpga, a few nics, some memory, and a means of hooking up hdd )
13:15 asciilifeform even the hdd is optional
13:17 mircea_popescu asciilifeform answer't.
13:20 asciilifeform answr'dx2
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14:30 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/06/rwandan-bank-profits-up-as-us-retail-sinks/ << Qntra - Rwandan Bank Profits Up As US Retail Sinks
14:31 mircea_popescu loller
14:35 BingoBoingo 2good2Btroo
14:40 BingoBoingo and yet, we live in the future and it is awesome
14:46 mod6 hola
14:48 asciilifeform heya mod6
14:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2017/the-bitcoin-learning-tournament/ << there you go, a much more proper model of reality in terms of learning.
14:58 asciilifeform oh neato
14:58 mircea_popescu though something tells me you'll say exactly the same re this as re the other model : http://trilema.com/2017/the-failure-mode-of-abundance/#comment-122198 ie "there's no time to consider ACTUAL meaningful models, all we have time for is nonsense. where's that happy meal ?!?!"
14:59 asciilifeform lol notsofast.
14:59 mircea_popescu i am in my quick days!
15:00 asciilifeform sounds spiffy actually
15:01 asciilifeform kinda like ye olde corewars in 'king of the hill' mode
15:01 mircea_popescu i expect the indirection layer between "reality as is" and "reality as perceptible", rudimentary as it is, should be entirely suffcicient to go from hurr durr as displayed by academics to actual science.
15:09 asciilifeform meanwhile, in the circus, http://archive.is/K1Ur0 >> 'I'm clear: if human rights laws get in the way of tackling extremism and terrorism, we will change those laws to keep British people safe.' ( Theresa May )
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15:09 asciilifeform didjaknow.
15:10 mircea_popescu lmao
15:15 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/the-bitcoin-learning-tournament/ << Trilema - The Bitcoin learning tournament.
15:16 shinohai http://archive.is/osrZ7 <<< "Alexa, send all my secrets to the feebs"
15:19 asciilifeform 'your lizard majesty, we are low on moneys with which to pay for improved NN for wiretap-to-text coverters.' 'make the victims pay' 'how?' 'sell them 'convenient' voicecontrolled toys, they'll buy voluntarily'
15:19 shinohai "Perfect! I'll take 3!"
15:20 asciilifeform ( enjoy while still optional! see also, e.g., http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-13#1642757 )
15:20 a111 Logged on 2017-04-13 01:06 asciilifeform: the sheer idiocy of 'voice command' -- in particular, when device offers no other ui, there are cars now that can only be configured with voice ( are these only sold in anglotardistan? i can only with difficulty picture them elsewhere )
15:29 asciilifeform !!up mathgenius
15:29 deedbot mathgenius voiced for 30 minutes.
15:33 mircea_popescu heh
15:39 shinohai mathgenius != loquacious
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16:05 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-07#1666862 << and this is why you don't want females electable in any position of power.
16:05 a111 Logged on 2017-06-07 19:09 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the circus, http://archive.is/K1Ur0 >> 'I'm clear: if human rights laws get in the way of tackling extremism and terrorism, we will change those laws to keep British people safe.' ( Theresa May )
16:05 mircea_popescu it's an idea that sounds great in theory, and works ok while it's new, because only golda meirs and margaret thatchers make it in. but on the long term, the fundamental whorish substrate of the female, biologically conditioned to trade cocksucking for "safety", surfaces and fucks everything up.
16:08 shinohai Theresa May gonna cuck the entire continent.
16:09 mircea_popescu if she gets a chance to, totally going to "leadersheep"
16:09 shinohai Those poor British Sam's. Never will see it coming.
16:09 mircea_popescu cuz not looking, and deliberately.
16:12 danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-09#1554226
16:12 a111 Logged on 2016-10-09 21:44 jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Isaiah 3:12 :: As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
16:14 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-09#1554228 << it's this "are to be" which throws the whole thing off, rather than, "you are commanded to make them"
16:14 a111 Logged on 2016-10-09 21:45 danielpbarron: >> The Lord did not design men to have women rule over them. He designed men to rule over women. "The head of woman is man" (1 Corinthians 11:3), and "Adam was formed first, then Eve" (1 Timothy 2:13). This is why women are to be submissive (1 Corinthians 14:34). God has placed men as the authority (head) over women, and therefore they need to submit to this authority. Moreover, this authority was established from the very beginnin
16:14 trinque for all I know that happened in the translation to turdlang.
16:14 mod6 http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-6-7#621f4ef7-a82e-40c2-9563-52f4d5791f22 << neat!
16:16 danielpbarron "are to be" is the author of that article's words; not scripture.
16:16 danielpbarron !~bible 1 cor 14:34
16:16 jhvh1 danielpbarron: [KJV] 1 Corinthians 14:34 :: Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
16:16 danielpbarron there's your command, heh
16:17 trinque great
16:17 * diana_coman too busy to speak; works
16:17 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-14#1273331 << see here for the same passive aggressive thinking being thunked out of a slightly younger trinque
16:17 a111 Logged on 2015-09-14 00:35 mircea_popescu: * trinque [...] a very angry man about why what I did was below what was expected of me << for the record, i don't think very much of this entire "expectations" verbiage/bs. if you think a little about it, so would you. a) what sort of fucking powerless vulnerable schmuck lets himself get into the position of DEPENDING on a kid ? that's what you're saying. don't say that, not only is it not true it's also very stupid.
16:18 mircea_popescu poor diana_coman
16:18 mod6 trinque, danielpbarron, et al. thx. got X built, gcc 4.9.2, etc. on the new laptop.
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16:18 danielpbarron it's only in church that women shouldn't speak, and I don't know of very many true churches
16:18 diana_coman I find funny all the talk of no-speak, what
16:19 mircea_popescu yeah, but it's only funny until someone loses an eye. to wit, suppose your job was to find some woman qualified to speak -- other than you. preferably, 21 something, pr pisi.
16:19 mircea_popescu ya know ?
16:19 shinohai Perhaps because diana_coman is equal to any 10 other women I know.
16:20 shinohai (combined)
16:20 diana_coman mircea_popescu, not sure I'd have less trouble finding a man really; I get what you mean though
16:20 mircea_popescu hey, im not much in favour of putting "men" of the sort in positions of power either.
16:22 diana_coman shinohai, thanks!
16:22 mircea_popescu whole "position of power" bs is so much statal crap. but on the positive side, it's definitely wringing itself out of existence, as finely exemplified by teh "tangerine in chief" etc. what exact power is it ?
16:23 mircea_popescu i dunno why the pantsuits were so aggro re trump's twitter account. whole fucking JOB is little more than a pretext for putting "trump official" on your twitter.
16:23 mircea_popescu what else does it do ?
16:24 diana_coman attract fools? dunno
16:24 mircea_popescu his bitch yello.
16:24 mircea_popescu blows dat dick like statal "positions of power" meant something.
16:24 trinque my lady friend put it to me thus, that woman can behave like a man in certain realms, but often means cutting off a tit, like the (possibly apocryphal) amazon woman archer thing.
16:25 diana_coman tbh I am not sure I see much to really distinguish this sort of "it makes me happy" from the "mud makes me happy"
16:25 trinque generalizations that broad being easily falsified and so on
16:25 mircea_popescu wait which happy ?
16:26 diana_coman obama-happy, trump-happy
16:26 mircea_popescu obama i understand. basically, tiganu' satului elected mayor. he's gonna be fucking thrilled, look ma, i'm on top of the world.
16:27 mircea_popescu ro commies did exactly that sort of thing also, back in the early days.
16:27 mircea_popescu trinque i suppose the whole amazon loped tit thing was commentary re "stop being so damned nurturing" and the whole lacedemonian cultural shock.
16:28 diana_coman trinque, perhaps; I don't quite buy this cutting off a tit but I can't say I spent a lot of time on it as such
16:28 diana_coman mircea_popescu, mama lu' stefan cel mare? lmao
16:28 trinque diana_coman: girl's also part cherokee; apparently they'd solve the cognitive dissonance by saying "ah, her? she's got a man's spirit!" and leave it at that
16:30 mircea_popescu diana_coman yeah, and that whole "because fuck your race" thing.
16:31 diana_coman trinque, I saw that approach in practice, yes
16:31 mircea_popescu ie ttp://trilema.com/2016/a-complete-theory-of-politics/#selection-27.1-31.28
16:40 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-07#1666897 << congrats mod6
16:40 a111 Logged on 2017-06-07 20:18 mod6: trinque, danielpbarron, et al. thx. got X built, gcc 4.9.2, etc. on the new laptop.
16:40 asciilifeform mod6: which machine, was it
16:53 danielpbarron i also got something to work that i had been stuck on for a while: lilo stalling on the bios data check. seems as though the solution is to use 'linear' rather than 'lba32' in etc/lilo.conf
16:54 asciilifeform newer biosen spew forth rubbish when asked for the classical sectors/cylinders/heads info
16:55 danielpbarron strange thing is i can take the drive (that is, that which shows up as /dev/sda) out and put it in an identical machine and it will boot with the lba32 thing
16:56 asciilifeform what means 'identical' here
16:56 asciilifeform didja diff the biosen ?
16:56 asciilifeform bitwise
16:56 danielpbarron no, but they are the "same version" as reported by themselves
16:57 danielpbarron the one i got it working on reports a slightly newer version, but i suspect this fix would work on the other one with same version
16:57 asciilifeform ver num. is worth about as far as you can throw it.
17:12 mod6 asciilifeform: new laptop i grabbed. x86_64.
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17:12 mod6 only thing left i gotta fix is the wireless driver
17:14 trinque !!up juantelez
17:14 deedbot juantelez voiced for 30 minutes.
17:14 trinque who goes there?
17:16 juantelez Hi, trinque :)
17:16 trinque hello, who are you?
17:16 juantelez trinque: I'm Juan Pablo Telez.
17:17 trinque what brings you to the forum of the Republic?
17:18 juantelez trinque: I wanna know more about this place.
17:18 mod6 see /topic
17:19 juantelez mod6: Thanks.
17:19 mod6 no prob.
17:24 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-07#1666939 << mega-informative, lol
17:24 a111 Logged on 2017-06-07 21:12 mod6: asciilifeform: new laptop i grabbed. x86_64.
17:31 shinohai !~weather
17:31 jhvh1 stormy with a chance of packeting
17:31 trinque !!up whaack
17:31 deedbot whaack voiced for 30 minutes.
17:32 trinque whaack: hey, didn't you have a key and so on?
17:33 shinohai Too busy whaacking off?
17:34 asciilifeform twist : all of the zombie lurkers are long-dead
17:34 asciilifeform they configured a box some time back when alive, and now -- this.
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18:03 trinque !!up whaack
18:03 deedbot whaack voiced for 30 minutes.
18:04 whaack <-- still alive and lurking
18:04 * whaack is working on his "ESL" problem
18:09 trinque curious what lang hotfix you chose.
18:09 whaack I'm leaving the US and going to Costa Rica in about a month. In the off chance anyone wants to make some btc by renting out a place there send a msg to my key. Any advice is appreciated as well
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18:12 danielpbarron mod6, if you get wifi working can i get a recipe?
18:12 trinque gonna depend on chip quite a bit
18:14 whaack I've taken a few Spanish classes throughout school, I'm using duolingo, reading Breaking Out of Beginner's Spanish http://b-ok.org/book/1160411/3c0465, moving to CR (went there for 10 days, loved it), reading a textbook (Nexos)
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18:14 trinque whaack: as it happens mircea_popescu lives there now.
18:18 shinohai whaack: seeing as how there is little Qntra market these days I offer (wot based) Spanish tutoring as well.
18:20 whaack shinohai: I will take you up on that
18:30 whaack and mircea_popescu if you have any advice on colón/btc interfaces or renting it would be very much appreciated
18:42 shinohai !!key whaack
18:42 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/6326273b61a700af4cd95a7b8c6cab1924a64dec.asc
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19:01 shinohai !!up juantelez
19:01 deedbot juantelez voiced for 30 minutes.
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20:12 ben_vulpes > While America may be a nation divided on policies, we are a country that stands united in condemning Linux in all of its very ugly forms.
20:12 ben_vulpes https://twitter.com/TrumpDBA/
20:13 mod6 <+danielpbarron> mod6, if you get wifi working can i get a recipe? << sure thing
20:13 mod6 <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-07#1666939 << mega-informative, lol << haha, it's a thinkpad E560
20:13 a111 Logged on 2017-06-07 21:12 mod6: asciilifeform: new laptop i grabbed. x86_64.
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20:55 mod6 yay, works.
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22:06 mircea_popescu speaking of old hardware, /me just bought a bmw 320i from 2005.
22:06 mircea_popescu whaack_ renting ? what do you mean ?
22:08 mircea_popescu ah i see.
22:11 mod6 ah, werd.
22:11 mod6 danielpbarron: p.bvulpes.com/pastes/FFWQL
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22:38 mod6 i should note, that if you end up setting a default run-level with wpa_supplicant to debug some stuff, ensure that you disable this. you want to remove that with `rc-update delete wpa_supplicant`. then add `rc-update add net.wlan0 default` in its place. this, at least for me, fires up the adapter and negotiates with the AP at boot time.
22:39 mod6 now if i can just get this touch-pad to work, i'll have "computrobox"
22:39 mod6 opera works great.
22:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu collects vintage autos nao ??
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23:00 mircea_popescu hey, pre-electronics shitpocalypse.
23:11 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: neato. manual ?
23:11 mircea_popescu "tiptronic".
23:11 mircea_popescu some sort of weird nazi manual without a clutch pedal.
23:12 pete_dushenski aka 'semi-automated'
23:12 pete_dushenski still uses torque converter but allows for driver control of gear selection
23:12 mircea_popescu pretty much yeah
23:12 asciilifeform lol i have one quite like it in same vintage jp machine
23:12 pete_dushenski within limits, comps will still take over if you're driving too douchey
23:13 mircea_popescu it's not terrible, though i never owned one before.
23:13 pete_dushenski they're defo better around town.
23:14 asciilifeform where is there to drive in cr..
23:14 mircea_popescu i wouldn't want a purely automatic gearbox in this country mostly because of the grades they got.
23:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform to the volcano and to the beach.
23:14 asciilifeform i thouht the roads were donkey grade
23:14 pete_dushenski ... than manual. and better than normal auto because, yes, as mp said, hills
23:15 mircea_popescu i don't think anyone even makes an automatic gearbox that handles 15-20% well. cuz why would it, sorta thing.
23:15 mircea_popescu maybe the new heavily electronic things. though... "your java applet has crashed"
23:16 pete_dushenski the subsequent generation of 'semi-automated' have paddles on steering wheel or column. 'like f1 car'(tm). gen1 just had clicker sub-gate on centre console shifter
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23:16 mircea_popescu this one has the clicker im pretty sure.
23:16 pete_dushenski gen2 became more common around '08-10 so that'd make sense
23:17 pete_dushenski next gen of 'auto' is argually dual-clutch trans that pre-selects next gear and can swap cogs in blink of an eye (<200ms)
23:17 pete_dushenski arguably*
23:18 mircea_popescu possibly.
23:18 pete_dushenski nifty tech. mostly for performance cars though.
23:19 * pete_dushenski new car has dual-clutch. article on which is forthcoming :)
23:21 pete_dushenski in other shadowy existences, icbc lives! (it dominates us repo market) http://archive.is/KyKZ0
23:21 pete_dushenski !#s icbc pink sheets
23:22 a111 6 results for "icbc pink sheets", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=icbc%20pink%20sheets
23:22 mircea_popescu heh
23:22 pete_dushenski !!up juantelez
23:22 deedbot juantelez voiced for 30 minutes.
23:22 mircea_popescu !!key juantelez
23:22 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/8CDD7A2498E100CDDE26025E61E242888B2290DF.asc
23:23 mircea_popescu !!rate juantelez 1 stahp join/parting omygerd.
23:23 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/pnnqa/?raw=true
23:23 mircea_popescu !!v A2D77ACE62042FB47F889F293348E7F34D77C25A18026105319B5E005218EF44
23:23 deedbot mircea_popescu rated juantelez 1 << stahp join/parting omygerd.
23:23 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: you're driving it yourself?!
23:23 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes naah
23:24 ben_vulpes phew
23:34 ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-07#1666970 << entirely adequate ocr on this blob, ty whaack_
23:34 a111 Logged on 2017-06-07 22:14 whaack: I've taken a few Spanish classes throughout school, I'm using duolingo, reading Breaking Out of Beginner's Spanish http://b-ok.org/book/1160411/3c0465, moving to CR (went there for 10 days, loved it), reading a textbook (Nexos)
23:36 ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-08#1667012 << i beat the shit out of this girl's vw buttrocket when i discovered it had this, aeons ago
23:36 a111 Logged on 2017-06-08 03:16 pete_dushenski: the subsequent generation of 'semi-automated' have paddles on steering wheel or column. 'like f1 car'(tm). gen1 just had clicker sub-gate on centre console shifter
23:36 ben_vulpes learned in that day that an auto did not have to be an utter misery to drive
23:38 ben_vulpes lag sucked though, also had no notion of matching engine speed to the new gear for slick ride experience
23:40 ben_vulpes 'tis one thing to press bae back in her seat with a downshift, another altogether to rattle the whole crew around as the vehicle rattles around its hysteresis envelope as the geartrain and suspension return to steady-state
23:40 pete_dushenski weirdly, dct can feel ~more~ raw and ~more~ mechanical than manual if properly engineered. low speed smoothness isn't usually part of that equation though, thus the still enormous market for slushboxen with evermore speeds. 8 ? why not 9 ? let's make it 10!
23:41 ben_vulpes feel, yes i'm sure.
23:41 ben_vulpes i'd love to whip one around, actually.
23:41 pete_dushenski come to canada!
23:42 ben_vulpes not this year, but thank you
23:42 ben_vulpes can also rent here lol
23:42 pete_dushenski door is open
23:42 ben_vulpes appreciate it, but sunny climes call
23:42 pete_dushenski border too. for now.
23:42 ben_vulpes heh, friends have been whining, "what if you can't come back!!!1" without ever once considering the corrolary "what if you can't get out?"
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23:43 * pete_dushenski has sunburn from golf course today
23:43 ben_vulpes 'tis june, mhm.
23:43 ben_vulpes upstack, while an interesting experience i do not think i will enjoy the experience of HAHA IN ANOTHER GEAR NOW
23:43 ben_vulpes derivatives are a thing, matching them a skill.
23:45 pete_dushenski lol neither did i. until i stopped playing classified carey and drove the bloody things like i stole 'em
23:45 ben_vulpes c-classified carey?
23:46 pete_dushenski guy who spends all spare time perusing classifieds - dreamer dan, if you will
23:46 ben_vulpes ah
23:46 ben_vulpes i suppose if you're only shifting when you're clear out of the power band it might not be so whiplash-inducing
23:47 pete_dushenski it's like 'i don't think she'd be a good fuck because too prudish'. well, go fuck and see if your armchair assessment is accurate ?
23:47 ben_vulpes i bleed ke off with the clutch, sue me
23:47 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: i'd rather pull the guitar off the wall, ty
23:48 ben_vulpes currently divesting of piles of atoms, not looking for more or more reasons to have more
23:48 ben_vulpes not to mention gut distate for robots in my control loop
23:48 ben_vulpes it's not "too prudish" it's "dafuq are you doing with that fleshlight"
23:48 pete_dushenski then like looking at guitar in magazine and saying 'looks too twangy sounding for me personally'. anyways
23:49 ben_vulpes i burn petrol very intentionally, in a curated set of petrol-combusting platforms.
23:49 pete_dushenski fleshlight lol. isn't that guy's toy ?
23:49 ben_vulpes not interested in innovation and disruption in my ICE stack
23:50 ben_vulpes glad you are having fun though
23:52 ben_vulpes in entirely other socialismos, burritogate lynch mob turns out to have been incited by white operator of feminist coworking space or some such: http://www.wweek.com/restaurants/news-restaurants/2017/06/06/the-battle-over-kooks-burritos-led-to-death-threats-and-international-outrage-we-invited-portland-chefs-to-weigh-in/
23:53 ben_vulpes "resource center for the resistance"!
23:55 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-08#1667051 << word. it's always the rats in shitholes that are really dedicated to this nonsense.
23:55 a111 Logged on 2017-06-08 03:42 ben_vulpes: heh, friends have been whining, "what if you can't come back!!!1" without ever once considering the corrolary "what if you can't get out?"
23:55 mircea_popescu what the hell happened to "dude, if i can't get back it just means IT FUCKING SUCKED!"
23:56 ben_vulpes lol very nearly precisely my words
23:56 trinque what kind of joyless cunts ban burritos I ask
23:56 mircea_popescu you know ? dumbass soviets were like this, and then once the 80s were over and shitholistan moved to arab world, they were like that in the 90s.
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23:56 ben_vulpes "i wouldn't be a member of any club that wouldn't fall all over itself to have me in it" or how did it go
23:56 mircea_popescu "ya dude, you'll totally miss syria/libya/egypt/whateverthefuck"
23:57 ben_vulpes i think...i'll be fine?
23:57 ben_vulpes certainly better than eudalystan
23:57 mircea_popescu trinque that thought makes me want to go have some more smoked trout on homemade bread.
23:58 trinque sounds delicious
23:58 trinque my lady made this spicy cod thing with mangos and other whatnot the other day
23:58 mircea_popescu i distrust any non-cr mangoes.
23:58 ben_vulpes oh the acid reaction thing?
23:58 mircea_popescu ceviche ?
23:59 ben_vulpes mhm
23:59 mircea_popescu limejooce!
23:59 ben_vulpes limojews!
23:59 trinque nah wasn't ceviche, but honestly the whole concoction done that way would be even better.
23:59 ben_vulpes i'm going sour on applying heat to fish
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