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00:13 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-13#1566922 << 0 to do with 8ball
00:13 a111 Logged on 2016-11-13 23:35 mircea_popescu: but yes, congratulations are definitely in order for alf's foresight in implementing phuctor as he did. w/o the 8ball that module'd have never fallen.
00:13 asciilifeform 31005686945950767346869798203302530896148655064259347472347220442209769254413352177384260278331050342456445126481343091027696015873408329180286505324090208791356401685488632594573639626011967028852284987701096711563071936459451551456586408347519841053310079208801257166857909170039731960765892368543865804443052865290666243414773205630247890049846389567873586221735235757006305508905620469362479398256074942799303909984882283079716566423
00:13 asciilifeform 141876709031507883553455452314931202170711277559709938918157034624428381091843733176552634481080290679291021661954570523305447050841482495845936945694373844932850748050349261100319 is prime.
00:14 asciilifeform it's a genuinely diddled key gen, and a MODERN one
00:14 asciilifeform (the modulus belongs to something labeled as 'Seclab Signing Key 2016 <seclab@airgapped.sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de>')
00:15 asciilifeform whole thing submitted ~yesterday~
00:15 asciilifeform (it is not, afaik, in sks)
00:17 asciilifeform http://www.isti.tu-berlin.de/security_in_telecommunications/menue/overview << them, apparently.
00:17 asciilifeform quite possibly this is the largest 'in-use' rsa key ever publicly broken.
00:18 asciilifeform ... or not
00:18 asciilifeform i eyeballed quite wrongly, this is a 4096b key.
00:22 asciilifeform BingoBoingo, shinohai , anybody with not so much to do but energy/time, why not reach out to these poor heathens and ask'em what the hell they thing they are doing on this 'airgapped' box.
00:23 asciilifeform and, importantly, ~with what~ this gem was produced.
00:23 * asciilifeform bbl
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01:41 deedbot http://www.contravex.com/2016/11/14/duterte-anecdotally/ << ยป Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Duterte anecdotally.
01:48 deedbot http://deedbot.org/bundle-438805.txt
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04:34 Framedragger http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-13#1566874 << re. republican dns root (i think this term is not ambiguous), as far as i can see, if bob owned .whatever TLD and john owned john.whatever SLD, then queries for john.whatever would still "pass" through bob's .whatever zone file.
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04:34 a111 Logged on 2016-11-13 19:45 mircea_popescu: any string is any string.
04:34 Framedragger hence in effect, bob would control john's domain. hierarchy is baked into dns root.
04:35 Framedragger this is fine as long as it's made clear in regards to ownership etc.; but it does put some additional responsibility / ontological charge(?) onto folks who'd own a TLD
04:35 Framedragger unless.. not necessarily?
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05:12 Framedragger (btw amusingly, non-reich DNS roots are called "alt roots". tmsr could call it "*the* dns root", or "the republican dns root". or something.)
05:16 deedbot http://deedbot.org/bundle-438825.txt
05:24 Framedragger (and for anyone curious, there are a few "alt roots" out there, see alternative root servers section in http://thedjbway.b0llix.net/djbdns/dnsroots.html e.g.
05:24 Framedragger )
05:26 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/D3NPR
05:27 Framedragger "His "reactor" ended when the EPA declared his backyard as a Superfund cleanup site due to hazardous levels of radiation." oh yeah i remember reading about that! hm. so, radiation kills, then. RIP boy scout.
05:33 Framedragger ben_vulpes battling it out in #opennic, i see!
05:43 Framedragger ben_vulpes: do you have logs for #opennic somewhere handy by chance?
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06:04 Framedragger (a piece of history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlterNIC)
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07:16 mircea_popescu !!up vvande
07:16 deedbot vvande voiced for 30 minutes.
07:27 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-14#1566990 << there is no such thing as "tld". there's just strings. if you query r-dns for "fucksgoats" you get ip for "fucksgoats". if you query for "hurrdurr.fuckgoats" you get ip for "hurrdurr.fucksgoats". if you query for "Pwgaf,H6X/LJ8yt..OLjoNn+kyfFsOG5a?FpPbf!uxOS6" you get ip for "Pwgaf,H6X/LJ8yt..OLjoNn+kyfFsOG5a?FpPbf!uxOS6".
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07:27 a111 Logged on 2016-11-14 09:34 Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-13#1566874 << re. republican dns root (i think this term is not ambiguous), as far as i can see, if bob owned .whatever TLD and john owned john.whatever SLD, then queries for john.whatever would still "pass" through bob's .whatever zone file.
07:28 mircea_popescu it is up to your client to decide if the domain "Pwgaf,H6X/LJ8yt..OLjoNn+kyfFsOG5a?FpPbf!uxOS6" should be queried as "Pwgaf,H6X/LJ8yt..OLjoNn+kyfFsOG5a?FpPbf!uxOS6" or "OLjoNn+kyfFsOG5a?FpPbf!uxOS6" or ".." or "nasa.org" or whatnot. dns just answers queries, and nothing else.
07:28 Framedragger mircea_popescu: this implies that there's basically a single dns server, though. it does not delegate to other dns servers, like what we have now
07:29 mircea_popescu it doesn't "delegate", it caches. you know, like in sanity land, as opposed to some bs hacked together by people who didn't go to school for cs 30 yearsd ago.
07:29 Framedragger (i mean, there could be caching servers, but they'd have to have the same up to date map of all strings to IPs.)
07:29 Framedragger caching != delegation in dns, afaik.
07:29 mircea_popescu they would have to be "the same" and "up to date" in the sense of dns "give it a day".
07:29 mircea_popescu hurr.
07:29 mircea_popescu of course not, but this because dns is broken.
07:29 Framedragger delegate = "i don't know about this, but this guy does. ask him"
07:32 mircea_popescu also note that nothing in the discussed scheme prevents you from doing delegation. yiu can just decide to split on the basis of the last character ; or the last two.
07:32 mircea_popescu it just correctly orthogonalizes the matter of delegation, which is dns internal cooking, and not the client's business.
07:33 mircea_popescu there's no reason ~you~ should know aforehand what the dns servers will tell you to ask if you look for "string containing substring x" ; and the fact that you DO know who to ask for ".com" is just another sign of the above "some bs hacked together by people who didn't go to school for cs 30 yearsd ago"
07:33 Framedragger hmm. i'm still not sure if your scheme does not require additional customization of dns server software (bind/unbound/whatever). i mean, if it does, so be it.
07:34 mircea_popescu it probably does because current dns software was written by goatfuckers.
07:34 mircea_popescu and we're not playing the "bug for bug compatible" game.
07:35 Framedragger there is a nuance: if lotsa customization is needed, perhaps time/energy is better spent on gossipd. a logistical question i guess.
07:36 mircea_popescu this thing and gossipd are parallel anyway.
07:36 mircea_popescu also, the customization is the job of the client not of the server. "you wanna use this - here's the standard" suffices.
07:36 Framedragger to an extent, i would say, no? in gossipd, user would have their own "hosts" file, mapping mircea_popescu to $fingerprint or w/e
07:37 mircea_popescu i suppose, but that part wouldn't be the first to relate. the part that'd first to relate is that you gotta talk to these servers to admin your strings. and well... talk over... what.
07:38 mircea_popescu moreover, how do you handle splits ? maybe "trilema.com" should be owned by mp in mp's shadow and by whoever in some other space.
07:39 mircea_popescu there is EXACTLY ONE solution to "zooko's triangle" - and it is called gossipd. it works by crushing the socialist mind and its foul expectation of "any person is any person". not fucking so.
07:39 mircea_popescu people aren't strings.
07:40 Framedragger so yeah, running a republican dns root would still imply "collaborating" with current internet infrastructure. reform, not revolution. something like, in those tmsr ISP discussion, someone e.g suggesting to acquire an autonomous system number for tmsr. "is it even worth it."
07:40 mircea_popescu i'm sorry ?
07:40 Framedragger low on sugar, broken english
07:40 mircea_popescu try again.
07:41 mircea_popescu and of course we managed this situation where half the conversation is here hjalf on trilema to maximally confuse the future interested party. ALL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE THE PATIENCE TO GET ANSWER THERE!111
07:42 Framedragger the whole "patch a DNS server and run alternative root" effort sounds interesting and useful, but, as you said, eventually the underlying layer would need to swapped for gossipd anyway. in gossipd, UDP/TCP as currently used by DNS may not even work. hence there may be a redundancy of effort;
07:42 mircea_popescu "but that part wouldn't be the first to relate. the part that'd first to relate is that you gotta talk to these servers to admin your strings"
07:42 Framedragger and maybe it's worth to focus on gossipd first. but i see what you're saying regarding these two things being parallel. i guess.
07:43 mircea_popescu at first, gossipd replaces the current "talk to servers to admin your strings" which happens, essentially, over substitute-email and http-sessions.
07:43 Framedragger mircea_popescu: my excuse is, i don't feel like i have enough original content to keep spamming your comments box. what can i say. such self esteem
07:44 Framedragger right.
07:44 mircea_popescu it's a typical disaster of commons of the republican era - the needs and interests of people not here yet figure a lot less in the eyes of the present man than his immediate pulsion of lowest order. and in 10 years the choices so made become written in stone and the poor schmucks pay for them. it's sad but unsolvable.
07:44 Framedragger and, i suppose, republican dns server could work in a way that already facilitates session-less communication - pgprams issuing orders to change zone files, etc.
07:44 mircea_popescu the OTHER disaster of commons of the republican era is discussed on trilema re "you can't decide what's worth doing", if you recall that footnote.
07:45 mircea_popescu Framedragger yes, but communicatin by sending pgpgrams is already a simplified gossipd is the point.
07:45 mircea_popescu hand-cranked, arbitrary, etc. but still it is it.
07:46 Framedragger yes indeed; and now i see that maybe there wouldn't be too much of a redundancy there - that is, when gossipd arrives, dns server could still accept pgprams, they'd simply come via gossipd - and the latter may even sit behind an abstracted network interface, etc.
07:47 mircea_popescu quite exactly.
07:47 mircea_popescu we've been amply using this "alternate leg" climbing method to build towers.
07:47 Framedragger okay, i'm less confused now
07:47 Framedragger rather ingenious if i may say so!
07:48 mircea_popescu yeah, what can i tell you, as ingenious as walk. 10s of ks of years old.
07:53 Framedragger i wonder if a simpler key-value store wouldn't work as a replacement for dns server. "flatten" the whole thing, so that, as you say, dns server wouldn't distinguish between types of substrings. the latter would be up to the client, if it willed to do so.
07:53 mircea_popescu and here i thought i said just that
07:53 Framedragger caching could be easily done, too
07:53 Framedragger argh.
07:54 Framedragger up until this point i thought that the idea would be to use an existing dns server, for sake of ease
07:54 mircea_popescu what did you take http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-14#1567006 to mean ? (it being the 3rd or so pass at this)
07:54 a111 Logged on 2016-11-14 12:27 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-14#1566990 << there is no such thing as "tld". there's just strings. if you query r-dns for "fucksgoats" you get ip for "fucksgoats". if you query for "hurrdurr.fuckgoats" you get ip for "hurrdurr.fucksgoats". if you query for "Pwgaf,H6X/LJ8yt..OLjoNn+kyfFsOG5a?FpPbf!uxOS6" you get ip for "Pwgaf,H6X/LJ8yt..OLjoNn+kyfFsOG5a?FpPbf!uxOS6".
07:54 Framedragger the administration / record-updating would be a separate layer in any case.
07:54 mircea_popescu shows you the power of bias / mental fixation i guess ?
07:55 Framedragger ah, "r-dns" is republican dns. not reverse dns or sth like that. more clear
07:55 mircea_popescu and holy shit no you don't want to reuse dns server code oh my fucking god.
07:55 mircea_popescu have you SEEN that shit ?!
07:55 Framedragger mircea_popescu: thanks for bearing with me. yes, fixation.
07:55 Framedragger well, BIND is.. not vulernability-impaired. lots of fleas. and code quality - can only imagine
07:56 Framedragger openssl vibes.
07:56 Framedragger right.
07:56 Framedragger mircea_popescu: you'd still want r-dns to be able to serve existing dns clients though, right? i mean, things like `nslookup`, dns resolution libraries, etc - the current dns protocol? or no?
07:56 mircea_popescu ideally.
07:57 mircea_popescu but if a patch is required then that's fine too.
07:58 mircea_popescu (likely the patch will come in the shape of a dnsmasq clone, which will handle stuff like "tld" as well as things like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-12#1566482 via settings etc)
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07:58 a111 Logged on 2016-11-12 15:50 mircea_popescu: set up your client to pick two-of-three, give it 1 republic and 2 reich servers. it'll give you republic for all the things reich doesn't know and reich for stuff like apple.com
08:03 mircea_popescu and in other pumpkin attacks, http://68.media.tumblr.com/8fe43e441d88ba6dd5667f1d2304721e/tumblr_mv2nmcRc1x1s0fmloo1_1280.jpg
08:16 davout BingoBoingo: s/La Pen/Le Pen/ also s/French prime minister/French president/
08:16 mircea_popescu davout pretty sure he's doing "la pen" because woman see.
08:17 davout aha
08:17 mircea_popescu it's very clever!
08:17 mircea_popescu and in other red cup news, http://68.media.tumblr.com/5095bd456aec749aaffc506710e27e8b/tumblr_mvhxcaByeh1stjm8io1_1280.jpg
08:21 Framedragger oh god. dns is defined using a shitload of RFCs. but easiest way to learn of low-level transport nuances is, well, wireshark. so, wiresharking and eating cake. at the very least this will end up as (possibly) useful website comment for future adventurers.
08:22 Framedragger what is nice is that the dns transport itself is quite elegant - questions/answers - one packet for query, another for answer. so transport is (in principle) compatible with session-less gossipd model, i think.
08:29 mircea_popescu aha
08:30 mircea_popescu is it delicious cake or just ordinary cake ?
08:31 Framedragger mircea_popescu: i'm curious, do you currently manually add entries to your hosts file? wireshark shows so much gunk flying around. like, i've got ad blockers and everything, but still lotsa facebook dns requests all around, etc.
08:32 Framedragger quite delicious! mississippi mud pie. oreo base, brownie-esk filling. amateur-made (office tradition), but very much acceptabru.
08:32 mircea_popescu good for you!
08:32 mircea_popescu Framedragger yes, i add names manually. i see jackshit flying around lol.
08:33 mircea_popescu and i also keep it a few dozen lines, so there is that.
08:33 Framedragger lean and clean. i may just try that. i understand the need more and more.
08:34 mircea_popescu the more you look at it, the brick you more shit.
08:34 Framedragger how did that kharms story go, about the guy dreaming he was a bush..
08:34 mircea_popescu and he woke up and he was a bama ?
08:35 Framedragger hah! quite
08:35 Framedragger (for logs, http://chneukirchen.org/tmp/www.geocities.com/Athens/8926/Kharms/Incidences.html#12 )
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09:42 mircea_popescu bathroom attendants workin' on tips & tips alone : http://68.media.tumblr.com/31210ede9466aaadcb6d4c2b7aa95877/tumblr_mvhx5my5Os1stjm8io1_1280.jpg
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09:59 mircea_popescu and in random news nobody cares about, the "republic of moldavia", romania's to "northern ireland" elected russian puppet guy president (igor dodon). putin's ridin' high.
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10:16 * asciilifeform wrote to http://www.isti.tu-berlin.de/security_in_telecommunications/menue/people/head re yesterday's find
10:22 Framedragger asciilifeform: kewl. wonder what they will say. and what they used to generate the key..
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10:53 mircea_popescu i'm betting it'll be something stupid.
10:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform how do you mean it had 0 to do with 8ball ? it went because known factors not because paired with something neh ?
10:55 mircea_popescu when mod pops when submitted, it's always the 8ball
10:55 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nope. 8ball is a 'primorial', it's this process that's been going 2*3*5*7*........... for months
10:55 asciilifeform this number gets thrown into the hopper every time phuctor fires
10:56 mircea_popescu right...
10:56 asciilifeform it nails moduli with 'small' factors.
10:56 mircea_popescu it doesn't also contain all other factors found ?
10:56 asciilifeform nope, that's not how bernstein's algo worx
10:56 mircea_popescu well it's what i meant.
10:56 asciilifeform it does not rely on writing down the formerly found factors
10:56 asciilifeform but operates on all moduli at once, every time it fires.
10:57 mircea_popescu s/8ball/bernstein/
10:57 asciilifeform this recent find is an excellent illustration, it shared the factor solely with own subkeys
10:57 asciilifeform specifically, the one marked '2015' and '2016'.
10:57 mircea_popescu o brother.
10:57 asciilifeform Seclab Signing Key 2015 <seclab@airgapped.sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de>; Seclab Signing Key 2016 <seclab@airgapped.sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de>;
10:57 asciilifeform aha.
10:58 asciilifeform the resulting factor - is prime.
10:58 mircea_popescu ic.
10:58 asciilifeform (does not appear to be of any special form, in so far as i can presently tell, but is in fact prime by every test i've tried)
10:58 mircea_popescu so if this is some "expert" hardware that does this stupid shit, we'll be seeing it again.
10:58 asciilifeform so it had in fact come out of something resembling a battlefield pgptron.
10:59 asciilifeform no flipped bits or similar.
10:59 mircea_popescu aha.
10:59 mircea_popescu i think ima actually write a short qntra re this, thinking about it.
10:59 asciilifeform i will add that the thing does not appear to reside on sks, though other items advertised as 'seclab' -- are
10:59 asciilifeform it was submitted manually the day prior to yesterday.
10:59 asciilifeform by somebody or other.
11:00 deedbot http://trilema.com/2016/bel-ami/ << Trilema - Bel Ami
11:00 asciilifeform 2016-11-13 13:50:45.642313 phuctor time.
11:03 asciilifeform no reply from the good doktor thus far, but it is evening in berlin
11:04 asciilifeform https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de << others -- yes on sks.
11:05 mircea_popescu i suppose it'd actually be better form to not publicize it so soon huh.
11:05 mircea_popescu though whoever put it in - knows.
11:05 asciilifeform story might 'develop'
11:07 asciilifeform given as the key does not appear to have publicly signed anything, at least in so far as i can see with naked eye, there is no physical way to distinguish this find from an elaborate troll
11:09 asciilifeform i'd be curious to learn whatthefuck exactly is 'seclab', the site suggests some eldritch horror from the bowels of eu academia
11:14 asciilifeform hm, seclab/berlin inst. of tech, quite well represented at defcon, blackhat, etc
11:15 mircea_popescu tu berlin is the technische universitat berlin, their version of a politechnic. sec.t-labs.tu-berlin is the "institut fur softwaretechnick und theoretische informatik" (ie the cs faculty of said college)'s it security lab.
11:15 mircea_popescu they're meeting with the head of teh bnd etc on some sort of regular basis.
11:15 asciilifeform and they have some decent quality material published re probing mobile nets, fuzzing, etc.
11:19 asciilifeform http://www.proofs-workshop.org/2013/slides/proofs2013_seifert_slides.pdf << lel, 'trojan-resilient ICs'
11:19 asciilifeform other talks include 'smartphone honeypots'
11:21 Framedragger (yes, afaik decent place. tu-munich >> tu-berlin probably, tho)
11:21 Framedragger well, maybe merely '>'
11:22 mircea_popescu "trust me, you can dance". signed - vodka.
11:33 mircea_popescu all girls are gone to town, therefore /me cracks 10kg watermelon out of fridge, proceeds to EAT ALL OF IT!
11:33 mircea_popescu mwahahahaha.
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11:48 Framedragger organic sugar water ftw
11:49 Framedragger when i was hitch hiking in albania a few years back, i ate lotsa watermelons. because 1) they were awesome there, and 2) it was middle of summer, hot, so lower food intake overall
11:49 Framedragger it was great.
11:49 mircea_popescu yeah that entire strip, from dalmatian coast to black sea, epic watermelons. ~where danube flows
11:50 Framedragger word
11:50 mircea_popescu sorta europe's own mississippi valley. no wonder nobody thinks much of the inhabitants.
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12:51 Framedragger mircea_popescu: you said you generally like dns transport, but just fyi it afaik limits udp packets to 512 bytes (which iirc you hate). but i guess the term is something more like "tolerate", not "like"...
12:53 mircea_popescu tell me 512 bytes of your favourite poem.
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12:58 Framedragger (truncated. assumes 8 bits per char. not the favourite / not sure, but i like it.)
12:58 Framedragger such eclectic irc channel eh.
12:58 mircea_popescu should be enough FOR ANYONES NAME
13:00 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2009/bonza/#selection-41.122-41.212 << related.
13:01 Framedragger mircea_popescu: point taken - this should ideally eventually change, etc...
13:02 mircea_popescu can't do all things at the same time.
13:08 mircea_popescu meanwhile at the party ranch, http://68.media.tumblr.com/0ebcb8404af38c91e5101398749ceaf3/tumblr_msctyza3xF1r81lgko1_1280.jpg
13:19 ben_vulpes Framedragger: only since i showed up
13:20 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: lol, did a double-take on the dood in the back
13:23 ben_vulpes Framedragger: happy to hand mine over, but vvande has deeper logs and will share them with you for the asking
13:23 ben_vulpes anyways, opennic project is ~dead, with remaining maggots deeply allergic to republican notions.
13:24 ben_vulpes i suspect that i knocked their local usg rep into 'tilt mode' last night
13:24 Framedragger thanks much ben_vulpes. guess i'm good for now
13:24 Framedragger heh. :)
13:25 ben_vulpes "gossipd? what dat. have you ever heard of i2p? what's an ethernet frame? shortwave?"
13:26 Framedragger well you cant fault them for not having heard of gossipd. (cue everyone: YES YOU CAN). re. i2p, well its an interesting project. but - doomed.
13:26 Framedragger bbl
13:28 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes unsurprisingly. pretty much all of extant "foss" is cat-v.org redone.
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13:49 ben_vulpes freenic doesn't appear to be in any better shape.
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14:34 mircea_popescu https://kashpureff.org/ekashp/ << if anyone still remembers this guy.
14:37 mircea_popescu and, of course, 2000s vintage imperial lulz https://archive.is/g9O6H
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14:40 mircea_popescu (note that they quite exactly identify the exact reason gossipd makes empire impossible : "In the case of a public communications system this condition of a common symbol set with a common semantic interpretation must be further strengthened to that of a unique symbol set with a unique semantic interpretation. This condition of uniqueness allows any party to initiate a communication that can be received and understood by any
14:40 mircea_popescu other party. Such a condition rules out the ability to define a symbol within some bounded context. In such a case, once the communication moves out of the context of interpretation in which it was defined, the meaning of the symbol becomes lost."
14:42 mircea_popescu they built usg in not for any reason than because they WERE usg. postel's "oh noes - otherwise CHAOS" is exactly symptomatic. just like the arab mind can't quite comprehend how one who doesn't give a shit about allah may manage to drink from a cup, just so usgtards can't comprehend how one who isn't a socialist can at all live.
14:42 mircea_popescu "but without our stupid bigotry there'd be CHAOS!!11". yeah, i'm sure there would be. for you.
14:44 mircea_popescu "this is a technical requirement, not a policy choice" - fancy that wonder. what else is "not a policy choice" ?
14:48 mircea_popescu and of course, the capper : "This memo does not introduce any new security issues, but it does attempt to identify some of the problems inherent in a family of recurring technically naive proposals."
14:48 mircea_popescu because what the fuck else would crown the retard more than the pretense that he's some sort of misunderstood genius, and his betters "naive" ?
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15:16 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/uwr0b/?raw=true
15:28 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> davout pretty sure he's doing "la pen" because woman see. << Aha. Also because what say do people in France have over everything turning their language over to a socialist "Academy" and shit.
15:30 mircea_popescu o.O
15:31 BingoBoingo Or their government
15:32 BingoBoingo Maybe when it happens La Pen will be chief of the DMV?
15:33 BingoBoingo The defining national characteristic of France is "taking it"
15:36 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/11/today-in-accidental-insecurity/ << Qntra - Today In Accidental Insecurity
15:38 asciilifeform where the fuck is the sig?!
15:38 asciilifeform BingoBoingo ?
15:39 asciilifeform that sig needs to be there.
15:40 BingoBoingo Twas not in mircea_popescu's submission
15:40 asciilifeform grrr
15:40 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wat
15:43 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: plox to check your original incoming
15:44 asciilifeform (or, wat, BingoBoingo eats texts with 0 sigs..?)
15:45 BingoBoingo Ah, the "peace in our time was at bottom of screen. Forgot to scroll, fxing
15:45 asciilifeform Nooooooo
15:45 asciilifeform the pgp sig
15:46 asciilifeform i signed mircea_popescu's article with victim's pgp privk
15:46 asciilifeform plox to roll in whole unmodified text
15:47 asciilifeform line feeds & all
15:47 BingoBoingo AHA
15:47 BingoBoingo tyvm
15:47 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you can put editorial commentz Below the sigblok
15:48 BingoBoingo Eh prolly best to put im comments
15:48 asciilifeform aite
15:48 asciilifeform much better.
15:50 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo of course it was lol
15:50 BingoBoingo Ah
15:51 mircea_popescu gpg: Good signature from "Seclab Signing Key 2016 <seclab@airgapped.sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de>"
15:51 shinohai rekt
15:52 mircea_popescu if anyone cares to put it in ... what was the shithole, reddit ? hacker news ?
15:52 * asciilifeform can hardly wait for he neverheppeneding of this little trick.
15:52 asciilifeform *the
15:53 asciilifeform wrecker noose.
15:54 mircea_popescu lol isn't he cute all excited like that.
15:54 asciilifeform (if ben_vulpes or other wwwtronicist is ever bored, he oughta consider writing an aggregator called 'wrecker nyooz'..)
15:55 mircea_popescu hardly worth it. slashdot sold for what, 3mn ?
15:55 asciilifeform BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu : consider slipping in, below sigblock, a link to the key on phuctor
15:55 mircea_popescu much like the whole "social justice" crapolade : "news for geeks, stuff that matters", "web's most important blabla", "slashdotted" and whatnot - then when push comes to shove, it ain't worth enough to buy a middle class home.
15:56 mircea_popescu there is one.
15:57 mircea_popescu awww BingoBoingo plox put link to http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/341F5F22B677175F46A2C6F87A2F74BADC483E18EB1E656570344DD213EE327C on "reported" (2nd word). i dunno how i left it out ;/
15:57 asciilifeform there's a verbatim asc
15:57 asciilifeform ah
15:57 BingoBoingo linked at end of block
15:57 mircea_popescu nah, that's bs. put it 2nd word.
15:58 BingoBoingo And then can't verify sig
15:58 BingoBoingo Maybe I'll put link before block
15:58 mircea_popescu of course you can.
15:58 asciilifeform or make pubkey blok a link
15:58 mircea_popescu dawg, copy/paste doesn't copy the links.
15:58 mircea_popescu just put it in, then try, it'll be fine.
16:00 * BingoBoingo chopping on it
16:00 mircea_popescu it's hard out there for a pimp...
16:01 ben_vulpes i would take 3m
16:02 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes you have any conception of the total man-hours soaked into slashdot ?
16:02 ben_vulpes i imagine loads.
16:02 mircea_popescu just the fixing of their dumbass mysql error back in 2006 for one
16:02 mircea_popescu recall that ?
16:02 ben_vulpes not in the slightest
16:03 ben_vulpes i'd stopped reading at that point
16:03 mircea_popescu they had table index too short int, crashed when post count overwhelmed it
16:03 mircea_popescu had to be fixed offline.
16:03 BingoBoingo pls to try verifying signed block
16:04 mircea_popescu dude...
16:04 mircea_popescu it's very stupid to link a large block like that. why are you trying to degoogle yourself ?
16:05 BingoBoingo fxd
16:05 mircea_popescu gpg: Good signature from "Seclab Signing Key 2016 <seclab@airgapped.sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de>"
16:05 BingoBoingo k
16:05 mircea_popescu links dun matter for this purpose, so. best of both worlds.
16:05 shinohai works for me nau
16:06 mircea_popescu !!key SonGoku06
16:06 deedbot No such key.
16:20 BingoBoingo From the Wall Street Pisshole "After meeting with Mr. Trump, the only person to be elected president without having held a government or military position, Mr. Obama realized the Republican needs more guidance. He plans to spend more time with his successor than presidents typically do, people familiar with the matter said."
16:22 mircea_popescu o check that out, nobody wants the mulatto in chief. if he doesn't get to hang on to the wh he has literally nowhere to go.
16:24 asciilifeform http://qntra.net/2016/11/today-in-accidental-insecurity/#comment-78309 << ding.
16:24 asciilifeform WITH HIS SUCCESSOR ?!
16:24 asciilifeform SUCCESSOR?!
16:24 mircea_popescu yes ?
16:25 asciilifeform or hm
16:25 asciilifeform apparently i read bacwards nm.
16:28 asciilifeform re ealier, i have nfi whether herr nordholz is telling truth or nein.
16:29 asciilifeform so the matter will rest there.
16:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i answered him.
16:29 asciilifeform aah
16:29 * asciilifeform reads
16:29 mircea_popescu i have no fucking idea where these shitheads think they're shoping for condescension, or why the fuck the 2nd hand peddler failed to inform them that i got exponentially more than available on the market at my ready disposal.
16:30 mircea_popescu anyway, apparently today in "nice story, bro" we have a "students are required as part of curricula to run 10^10 "eulers". because totally, nobody can do any math anywhere.
16:31 asciilifeform he said (11*10)/2 neh ?
16:31 asciilifeform i.e. 55.
16:31 mircea_popescu he also said "euclids", i thought we were just doing keyboard mashing.
16:32 asciilifeform euclids, i.e. gcd, presumably
16:32 mircea_popescu sure sure.
16:32 asciilifeform i have nfi, i did ping the d00d via email so as to rub nose in qntra thread, that's all for my end
16:32 mircea_popescu aha. good enough.
16:41 mircea_popescu meanwhile in the better universities, http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mahvs1avyk1qkbo3do1_1280.jpg
16:44 asciilifeform http://qntra.net/2016/11/today-in-accidental-insecurity/#comment-78311 << see also.
16:44 asciilifeform 'Lol this is easily the best "unhappen" yet. So as the story goes, a secret key that exists and is regularily updated since 2006 suddenly โ€” but deliberately! โ€” gets a shared factor in 2016, as part of a didactic exercise which consists of doing euclids and other calisthenics. As a sub-plot thickener, it is for the first time announced that it takes 11*10/2 operations to obtain a 600+ digit prime factor in Berlin, which is somewha
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16:44 asciilifeform t cheaper than anywhere else. We are entertaint.'
16:48 mircea_popescu i suppose if nothing else - zee germanz have now verified that indeed, the phuctor is actually connected and works as described.
16:48 asciilifeform as if it were a mega-mystery earlier.
16:49 mircea_popescu in the land of the hanno bocks (ie, http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ ) it is probably as unbelievable as it gets.
16:51 asciilifeform in ogther noose, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/0ej6b/?raw=true , even 0day not spared on our humble box
16:51 mircea_popescu aww but why!
16:51 asciilifeform (sorry d00dz, it dun work, there is no php teenager in the mix)
16:51 mircea_popescu actually i suppose hijacking phuctor is a reasonably valuable thing now, get people to shit pants that their key's haxxed.
16:54 asciilifeform i suppose walking away with the box cost'em actual moneys last time, and budget was spent on schnapps, or the like.
16:55 asciilifeform btw d00dz who read 'p divides N...' and dun bother to go and, well, divide it, deserve to be tricked.
16:55 asciilifeform it takes maybe 3 seconds to verify whether a page on phuctor is fact or not.
16:55 mircea_popescu yeah well, a pants shitting is a pants shitting.
17:05 mircea_popescu !!key SonGoku06
17:05 deedbot No such key.
17:08 mircea_popescu in other lulz, the socialist retards (preaching over at huff po) : "My point is that this is a cycle. It happens again and again, but as most people only have a 50-100 year historical perspective they donย’t see that itย’s happening again. As the events that led to the First World War unfolded, there were a few brilliant minds who started to warn that something big was wrong, that the web of treaties across Europe could lea
17:08 mircea_popescu d to a war, but they were dismissed as hysterical, mad, or fools, as is always the way, and as people who worry about Putin, Brexit and Trump are dismissed now. A little thing leads to an unstoppable destruction that could have been prevented if youย’d listened and thought a bit."
17:09 mircea_popescu yes, motherfucker. this is exactly it : your continued existence is offensive. either you desist, forget this "social justice" nonsense ever existed, and EVERYTHING to do with it - or else YOU will have started a war, with YOUR idiocy.
17:09 mircea_popescu so yes - is your own tail and the avoidance of your own fucking holocaust worth stopping and thinking a bit ?
17:10 asciilifeform they learned 0 from the last one.
17:10 mircea_popescu maybe it's time to apologize for making up bullshit and calling it "global warming" ? maybe its time to cut off your balls and cut off your keyboard fingers ? maybe ?
17:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform all the better then. honestly i prefer bloodshed to contrite tears.
17:11 asciilifeform they learned 0, because 'thief is never sorry, only sorry that he was caught'
17:11 mircea_popescu quite so, apparently the humanist's notion that he speaks for humanity is the sweetest delusion of all.
17:17 asciilifeform one unfortunate bit is that afaik the gambit they used to stay alive last time, will work again -- a kilometre-thick ablative coating of nobodies to catch the gas
17:18 asciilifeform while soros, rothchilds, etc. escape and make next generation of 'reality makers'
17:19 mircea_popescu pshhh.
17:20 mircea_popescu this is sloppy thinker - soros was a poor nobody, there's no bloodline there ; and the lulz of the mystical-rotschilds is periodically debunked every time you bring it up.
17:20 asciilifeform lower-case r rothchilds!11111
17:20 mircea_popescu this is retrospective naming, the historical equivalent of wtf they call that graph worshippinbg bs
17:20 asciilifeform and rumour is that , iirc, son of soros marries into clintons
17:20 asciilifeform anyway the physical location of hitler is a q above my paygrade.
17:20 mircea_popescu "technical analysis"
17:34 ben_vulpes !!up vvande
17:34 deedbot vvande voiced for 30 minutes.
17:34 vvande hey!
17:35 ben_vulpes vvande's this "sleepy anti statist" i roused out of #opennic and #freenic
17:35 vvande I've always been anti statist.
17:35 vvande everybody is where I come from
17:35 ben_vulpes vvande: where is that?
17:35 vvande my family
17:35 vvande lol
17:36 ben_vulpes "texas" then
17:36 ben_vulpes ;)
17:36 vvande I live in BC Canada - just in from the coast now
17:36 vvande and came from Denmark
17:36 ben_vulpes lovely places
17:37 ben_vulpes actually i don't know about denmark
17:37 ben_vulpes but i do like bc quite a bit
17:37 vvande statism and autoritianism are not close to the heart of people who have experienced Hitler's regime
17:38 mircea_popescu !!key vvande
17:38 deedbot No such key.
17:38 ben_vulpes anyways, register a key
17:38 mircea_popescu ^ get a key eh.
17:38 vvande I was just a kid but my parents were involved.
17:38 ben_vulpes plenty of time to chat after you get your key into deedbot
17:38 vvande mircea_popescu: I'll do that later, but need to get breakfast and stuff.
17:38 mircea_popescu no rush
17:38 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes actually denmark is where the hot german chicks come from.
17:39 ben_vulpes well then it sounds lovely
17:39 vvande It's a pretty democratic place, but it being stirred up a bit in recent years.
17:40 vvande Not so democratic here in Canada. We're pretty far right, in fact.
17:41 vvande Anyway, I'll go look at that key thing. Seems easy enough to generate, but I should have a think about it.
17:42 ben_vulpes no expiration date, don't forget the passphrase
17:42 vvande ok, figured that so far
17:43 vvande I havent used keys before. Should I make it "sign and encrypt"?
17:43 ben_vulpes mhm
17:44 ben_vulpes keep it simple
17:44 vvande OK. I just want to make sure I don't cause trouble later.
17:44 vvande Can i have different keys?
17:44 vvande like just do one for here, for now?
17:44 ben_vulpes in gpg, yes. in deedbot, no.
17:44 ben_vulpes keys map 1:1 with identities here.
17:45 vvande gpg is already installed - running FreeBSD
17:45 ben_vulpes changing them is politically fraught.
17:45 vvande well, I won't be using it a lot until I get more into it
17:45 vvande So, OK. I'm off to do that. And ...
17:46 vvande my sweetheart just came back, so need to make coffee for her
17:46 vvande ltr
17:46 ben_vulpes see ya
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19:29 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: https://twitter.com/PortlandPolice
19:30 ben_vulpes also on an ancient thread, horses are allowed on many oregon roads and highways, because this place was barely a place before the sixties. there are a pile of questions in the drivers exam here regarding how to behave around horses, even.
19:39 asciilifeform from ben_vulpes's link: http://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=7711&ec=4&ch=twitter << very rare pistol, iirc the maker was sued out of business soon after it figured in evidence room re columbine postal
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19:40 ben_vulpes bizarre little handie
19:40 asciilifeform it , iirc, was banned after folx discovered easy conversion to auto , and the postal was a pretext
19:41 asciilifeform !~google tec-9
19:42 asciilifeform ......
19:42 asciilifeform ......
19:43 asciilifeform ...?
19:43 asciilifeform !~tslb
19:43 jhvh1 asciilifeform: Time since last block: 10 minutes and 53 seconds
19:43 ben_vulpes !!google tec-9
19:43 deedbot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEC-9 << TEC-9 - Wikipedia | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkZlO7hVTfw << Tec 9, Rapid Fire is the Only Way to Fire! - YouTube | https://csgostash.com/weapon/Tec-9 << Tec-9 Skins - CS:GO Stash
19:43 jhvh1 asciilifeform: TEC - 9 - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEC-9>; Tec 9 , Rapid Fire is the Only Way to Fire! - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DxkZlO7hVTfw>; intratec tec 9 All For Sale - GunBroker.com: <http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx%3FKeywords%3Dintratec%2Btec%2B9>
19:49 mircea_popescu !!key SonGoku06
19:49 deedbot http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/k0cvx/?raw=true
19:56 asciilifeform https://cryptome.org/2016-info/trump-protect/pict37.jpg << elsewhere.
19:57 mod6 nb.
19:57 mircea_popescu she looks like she never works out.
19:58 mod6 haha
19:58 mircea_popescu is this socially acceptable now, pre-menopausal woman, no bar no buttlifts no nothing ?
19:58 mod6 i liked the pumpkin heads
19:58 mod6 they s/buttlifts/netflix/
19:59 mircea_popescu well, if they didn't maybe someone'd give a shit.
20:00 mod6 solid point.
20:00 mod6 i love some of the dirty looks i get when checking out these pics on the train.
20:01 mircea_popescu lol
20:01 asciilifeform police d00d looks like he would rather be literally anywhere else
20:01 mircea_popescu can ye blame him ?
20:01 mircea_popescu "if this bitch starts reading poetry i'm shooting her"
20:02 asciilifeform dunno, how often he gets to arrest naked chix
20:02 mircea_popescu dude, that's not chix. there's sexual nudity and there's medical nudity.
20:02 mircea_popescu i wouldn't touch her, what am i, a licensed nurse ?
20:02 mircea_popescu let the dumb bitch work her ass off three seasons first, what the everloving is this "anything is acceptable" bs.
20:02 * asciilifeform not even a licensed mengele, but would touch
20:03 mod6 with asbestos gloves tho rite?
20:04 mircea_popescu meanwhile at srs bzns ranch, http://68.media.tumblr.com/52e237009cd5e14e9d230dbee0542ed9/tumblr_musutw9wLf1rw74nso1_1280.jpg
20:04 asciilifeform with police gloves , naturally
20:05 mod6 nice
20:06 mod6 i like how the dude was like 'hey, these were training keys'
20:08 shinohai Still avoiding the question of what those "training keyz" were generated on.
20:10 mircea_popescu the retrospectivatron
20:14 asciilifeform handy gadget in every household.
20:14 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes holy shit what's that potluck disaster https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxP7SW-WEAAdvyX.jpg
20:15 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: see thread just now
20:15 mod6 congrats to the winners of the joke contest
20:15 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-15#1567375 << subj
20:15 a111 Logged on 2016-11-15 00:39 asciilifeform: from ben_vulpes's link: http://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=7711&ec=4&ch=twitter << very rare pistol, iirc the maker was sued out of business soon after it figured in evidence room re columbine postal
20:15 mircea_popescu looked more like a housemade flamethrower at first sight
20:15 asciilifeform it's a columbinator.
20:15 mod6 pete_dushenski: hey, glad you got a prize, I did like the yugo joke.
20:16 mircea_popescu asciilifeform dude no wai that's an ACTUAL tec-9. too fucking banged up
20:16 mod6 Oh, maybe it wsa for the sax joke. Didn't see that.
20:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: antique. ~none made since late '90s, and was made half of plastic to even begin with
20:17 mircea_popescu nuts.
20:17 asciilifeform but ended up 'cult object' for complicated cultural reasonz
20:18 mod6 mainly because of rap iirc.
20:18 mircea_popescu i have nfi why, it's not really a very good gun ?
20:19 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: by all possible measures (save for cost, was cheapo) it sucked donkey balls, but on account of unusual shape became memorable in film etc
20:21 mircea_popescu yeah. mostly cuz it looks like someone's garage-made flamethrower.
20:21 asciilifeform swedish maker went bust after clinton banned it by name.
20:21 mod6 yeah, if those were envogue in the early 90s, the cheap aks were by the end of the 90s for sure.
20:21 mircea_popescu i half expected it's a converted camping butane burner
20:21 asciilifeform it resembles, imho, british 'sten', which was , yes, garage tech
20:21 mircea_popescu open bolt etc
20:21 asciilifeform ratatatatatat.
20:22 mircea_popescu incidentally alf : why don't ANY of these fucking idiots doing "mass shootings" like EVER read a fucking training manual, figure out they're supposed to carry ft not ap small arms ?
20:22 mircea_popescu "oh i'ma go to my school shoot everyone". really ?
20:23 mircea_popescu it'd even suit their inability to aim something fierce.
20:23 asciilifeform columbine d00dz supposedly brought propane tanks, but had nfi how to set off.
20:23 mircea_popescu (in ww2, the worst marksman always got the flamethrower. worst job, shit's heavy, you gotta get close etc)
20:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform propane my foot. plasticated gasoline mix what is this.
20:24 asciilifeform bonus for using it british-style : douse 1,001 derps, then ask 'why not light match?'
20:25 asciilifeform let them say why not.
20:25 asciilifeform and make it known that if you see cop - will flick bic.
20:26 mircea_popescu after all flame front is supersonic in atmosphere
20:26 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> (in ww2, the worst marksman always got the flamethrower. worst job, shit's heavy, you gotta get close etc) << oh no doubt. that's a rough job. like having a damn bomb on your back. next as bad is probably the radio guy.
20:27 mod6 (radio guy has antenne sticking up, easy target.)
20:28 mircea_popescu iirc radio guy was favoritism spot, because you get to go into bunker / safer position / next to co
20:29 mod6 well, prolly each squad/platoon has one in the forward position, relaying stuff back to other radio guy next to co in bunker. but, ya.
20:29 asciilifeform dunno re elsewhere, but in su army it was a mixed bag, co was expected to shoot radioman if the latter is at risk of capture (e.g., injured & down)
20:30 mircea_popescu i dun think they did this on the allied side.
20:30 asciilifeform possibly because did not much bother with field crypto there
20:31 mircea_popescu mod6 i dunno that as late as vietnam they had that many forwards like that. generally even the artillery reporters were small squad with co machine gun 3-4 rifles etc
20:32 mod6 ah, yah perhaps.
20:33 mircea_popescu (most of vietnam cinematic footage is one of these artillery reporter squads. works well for the needs of the camera.)
20:35 mod6 <+asciilifeform> dunno re elsewhere, but in su army it was a mixed bag, co was expected to shoot radioman if the latter is at risk of capture (e.g., injured & down) << did the su radio guys have all the otp's for the day there with him or what not?
20:36 mircea_popescu i expect.
20:36 mircea_popescu truth be told the anglos had this "crypto dun werk" outlook throughout.
20:36 asciilifeform mod6: nah, they tended to use barbarisms where the man has a code in memory
20:36 mircea_popescu no otp ?!
20:36 asciilifeform incl. his 'morse fist'
20:37 mod6 i gotta dig this up
20:37 asciilifeform when captured, would be made to 'funkspiel' with his characteristic style
20:37 asciilifeform ergo had to be shot.
20:37 mod6 ooh.
20:39 mod6 so the 'morse fist' was a guys ability to send error free and 'style' of the transmission of the message
20:39 asciilifeform iirc 'fist' is what engl.speaking folk called morse 'handwriting' in those times.
20:40 mod6 i see
20:40 mircea_popescu mod6 you know how morse goes, every op has specific timings.
20:40 mircea_popescu !!up Test
20:40 deedbot Test voiced for 30 minutes.
20:41 mod6 mircea_popescu: yah, that makes sense.
20:44 mircea_popescu that strange feeling when bing returns trilema for img search for "check your privilege shitlord".
20:44 mircea_popescu i had no fucking idea anyone actually uses bing.
20:44 asciilifeform wasn't it made default in firefox when the latter was colonized?
20:45 mircea_popescu o was it ?
20:45 asciilifeform (it also silently replaced 'yahoo search' some years ago)
20:45 mircea_popescu no that also still exists.
20:46 mircea_popescu there's also, i kid you not, Microsoft MSN Search
20:46 mircea_popescu i even get hits from excite, but i figure that's gotta be a joke.
20:53 mircea_popescu oh and to round off the lulz, http://trilema.com/administrator/components/com_jnewsletter/includes/openflashchart/php-ofc-library/ofc_upload_image.php?name=magic.php and http://trilema.com/components/com_jnews/includes/openflashchart/php-ofc-library/ofc_upload_image.php?name=magic.php.pHp because ofcourse.
21:06 mod6 ah yes. i recall these.
21:07 mod6 i heard nz got hit hard again yesterday
21:07 mircea_popescu wait what ?
21:08 mod6 ah, earthquake in nz ~ yesterday
21:08 mod6 people were talkin about it
21:08 asciilifeform https://archive.is/v3wgy << in even other lulz
21:08 mircea_popescu 7,8 huh. one of these days it's gonna blow up innit.
21:09 asciilifeform 'The attacker just have to press and keep pressing the [Enter] key at the LUKS password prompt until a shell appears, which occurs after 70 seconds approx.'
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21:09 mod6 maybe so
21:09 mircea_popescu lmao
21:09 mircea_popescu why are all ubuntus the same ?
21:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the money shot is : "dracut is ALSO vulnerable, like initramfs is". because no, none of this is accidental, not anymore than castrated hipster's support for hillary is accidental.
21:11 asciilifeform at this point anyone with 2 neurons to rub together , i'd suppose, grasps this
21:12 mircea_popescu the key point however, is that it's also not "directed", so to speak.
21:12 asciilifeform is put in out of 'general principle'
21:12 mircea_popescu they're not dumb because the evil witch of the west tells them to, and when she dies they'll all wake up from dumb like from a spell.
21:12 asciilifeform and falls into half dozen or so rough taxanomic holes
21:13 mircea_popescu no, they are dumb because they are dumb, like iron is ductile because it is ductile ; any possible identified witches are scapegoats
21:13 asciilifeform 'break console auth', 'rot rng',...
21:14 asciilifeform eh if farmer dies and cows escape into the desert, they will remain == as stupid as before, but ~undirectedly~
21:15 mircea_popescu i suppose they are farmed, yes.
~ 19 minutes ~
21:35 mircea_popescu and in other news, bannon makes chief of staff.
21:35 mircea_popescu bureaucracy deeply butthurt.
21:38 mircea_popescu i'm sorry ; chief ~strategist~. priebus will be chief of staff fwtw.
21:53 asciilifeform dafuq sort of name is 'priebus'
21:54 asciilifeform norwegian?
21:54 mircea_popescu i have no idea.
21:56 mircea_popescu in other lulz, nigel farage is utterly furios that notwithstanding he's the only brit with a trump pass, nevertheless may & friends won't come kiss his pinky ring.
21:56 mircea_popescu pretty lulzy.
21:59 mircea_popescu anyway, it's so funny how much can change in a mere coupla decades. from clinton's "boy, i wish i could say the same" to obama's "i solemnly promise & swear trump won't be elected".
21:59 mircea_popescu i guess it makes sense one got impeached.
21:59 mircea_popescu well... almost impeached.
~ 50 minutes ~
22:50 asciilifeform https://archive.is/vsMXn << not, as appearances might suggest, wholly unrelated: derps froth at the mouth that anyone might dare to play german conquest marches, 'I hope someone will inform their music authorities', 'I am usually very moderate about showcasing of the original information, but I don't think new performances should be encouraged!', etc.
22:51 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> dafuq sort of name is 'priebus' << Lizard!
~ 52 minutes ~
23:44 ben_vulpes !!up vvande
23:44 deedbot vvande voiced for 30 minutes.
23:44 ben_vulpes you can talk to deedbot in pm too, vvande
23:44 vvande oh I see
23:45 vvande !!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/6ihww/?raw=true
23:45 deedbot C2F3ACF258CE9D436FCD93995F7496EC4F0FF004 registered as vvande.
23:46 vvande OK, that seemed to work. :)
23:46 mircea_popescu in other news, as trump prepares to repeal obamawarming, the libertard senate seems set to repeal godwin's law.
23:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i dun get it, some people somewhere protest... music ?
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