| 00:28 |
deedbot |
http://qntra.net/2016/10/kim-kardashian-bound-gagged-and-robbed-after-social-media-use/ << Qntra - Kim Kardashian Bound, Gagged, and Robbed After Social Media Use |
| 00:42 |
BingoBoingo |
!!up fitra |
| 00:42 |
deedbot |
fitra voiced for 30 minutes. |
| 00:42 |
fitra |
hello |
| 00:44 |
fitra |
i want to claim the free bitcoin |
| 00:44 |
fitra |
i want to claim the free bitcoin |
| 00:44 |
fitra |
i want to claim the free bitcoin |
| 00:44 |
fitra |
i want to claim the free bitcoin |
| 00:46 |
asciilifeform |
!!down fitra |
| 00:47 |
asciilifeform |
revolting. |
| 00:47 |
asciilifeform |
what do you use these for, again, mircea_popescu |
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| 00:48 |
asciilifeform |
i cannot picture any use for them, try as i might. |
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| 00:48 |
asciilifeform |
other than biodiesel. |
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| 01:03 |
asciilifeform |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-04#1553050 << what's the draw? phreee wagner 'n cyanide ? |
| 01:03 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-04 23:15 mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyoen going to the coreboot conference in berlin ? |
| 01:04 |
asciilifeform |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-04#1552971 << i dun get, why not steal the plaintext shitmail upstream with echelon etc.? |
| 01:04 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-04 19:36 shinohai: In "Nobody is shocked" news http://archive.is/Qrd3P |
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| 01:43 |
deedbot |
http://www.contravex.com/2016/10/04/voltaire-money-adnotated-part-1/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Voltaire. Money. Adnotated. Part 1. |
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| 02:02 |
lobbes |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553162 << my understanding is that eulora n00bs have value in that they can yield lower-quality raw materials that players with higher skills cannot, and there's a current n00b shortage |
| 02:02 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 04:48 asciilifeform: i cannot picture any use for them, try as i might. |
| 02:03 |
lobbes |
but I guess you gotta weed through the derps to see if any will stick |
| 02:15 |
mircea_popescu |
motherfucker |
| 02:15 |
mircea_popescu |
so i just spent every last peso i had, because i was up all night partying |
| 02:15 |
mircea_popescu |
spent the past four hours at the fucking hospital italiano, |
| 02:15 |
mircea_popescu |
with a chick passing kidney stones |
| 02:16 |
mircea_popescu |
because i invented a new manner of tying her hands behind her back and fucking her standing during the weekend |
| 02:16 |
mircea_popescu |
and it loosened her calculi. |
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| 02:16 |
mircea_popescu |
true fucking story. |
| 02:23 |
mircea_popescu |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553121 << miners won't mine the 2nd send is what prevents. |
| 02:23 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 02:26 asciilifeform: the thing i do not understand is, how does the thing not fork? say i fire up a prbtron and prbsend to A. then fire up trbtron and send same coin to B. |
| 02:25 |
mircea_popescu |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553145 >> lol srsly. |
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| 02:25 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 03:54 trinque: from now on I'm gonna have a pang of "OH SHIT, WAS IT THE AMD KEYS?!" every time there's a phuctor rss |
| 02:25 |
mircea_popescu |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553161 << what, you mean other than this ? |
| 02:25 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 04:47 asciilifeform: what do you use these for, again, mircea_popescu |
| 02:30 |
mircea_popescu |
in other lulz, http://www.thefalconandthesnowman.com/blog-1 |
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| 04:03 |
thestringpuller |
does mircea_popescu still need amazon gift card? |
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| 06:48 |
adlai |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553109 << it's done as a soft-fork. the transactions sending to&from P2SH addresses are valid for all nodes, except that miners enforce an additional constraint before confirming spends from such addresses: the preimage of the address must ~also~ execute as a valid script |
| 06:48 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 01:26 asciilifeform: i don't grasp how this kind of thing can work without being a hardfork |
| 06:49 |
adlai |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553120 << so this is actually incorrect; should miners stop respecting the P2SH softfork, these coins will suddenly become a lot more spendable than before. anybody who can reproduce the input script preimage could spend them, even if they don't know data which would make that preimage script validate |
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| 06:49 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 01:48 mircea_popescu: currently some miners process, eg, 3-leading bitcoin addresses. while that lasts, trb can send money to you. once it goes away - can send no longer, resulting in some lost bitcoin (practically, sent to unspendable address) |
| 06:51 |
* |
adlai handwaves aside the issue of parsing an the format beginning with a 3; once in the blockchain, these addresses are just: [op_hash160 <preimage> op_equal], which is a valid script for clients going all the way back to satoshi |
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| 09:55 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller yeah, can you get it ? |
| 10:00 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller nevermind, filled. |
| 10:02 |
asciilifeform |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553181 << i half-expected one or more of'em to pop. but they did not. |
| 10:02 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 06:25 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553145 >> lol srsly. |
| 10:03 |
mircea_popescu |
would have been kinda huge. |
| 10:03 |
asciilifeform |
though if i could get at the rom, betcha it will not be necessary to break the rsa key. there is some unwritten rule whereby the fritz sig authenticators are always porous. |
| 10:03 |
mircea_popescu |
doesn't your local uni allow access to a microscope ? |
| 10:03 |
asciilifeform |
it is, likely, because usg does not like to use stolen key to sign its 'tailored victim' crud, far too attributable |
| 10:04 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
| 10:04 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: the uni barely allows access to the motherfucking bus from the train station, for plebes. |
| 10:04 |
asciilifeform |
and i recently found that the dining hall can only be entered by folks with correct fingerprint. |
| 10:04 |
asciilifeform |
(why - was a mystery, it still takes money) |
| 10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
weird. in yurp you can taxi pretty much any and all uni gear. |
| 10:05 |
PeterL |
they do not want "random guy off street" "causing problems for students" |
| 10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
ie, pointing and laughing at whatever "rape" "black lives matter" "occupy wallstreet" etc fashion of the day ? |
| 10:06 |
asciilifeform |
fwiw when i was a very, very paying customer, there was still no access to microscope. |
| 10:06 |
PeterL |
or making the precious snowflakes feel insecure |
| 10:06 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL: that probably isn't it, because there are still stinking hobos in the computer labs. |
| 10:07 |
mircea_popescu |
how to produce an esltard ? keep kids isolated among themselves with a steady diet of cancerous shit from idiots like what's his face |
| 10:07 |
PeterL |
just find grad student who has access, offer to slip him some cash |
| 10:07 |
asciilifeform |
i suspect they are slowly phasing in 'dude X was in place Y at time T' anti-hooliganism/generic preparation for usgschwitz tracking systems. |
| 10:07 |
mircea_popescu |
john oliver. |
| 10:07 |
mircea_popescu |
then wonder wtf is wrong with them. well... how about "they didn't suck any 30yo dick when they were 16." |
| 10:08 |
asciilifeform |
at any rate, it isn't as if i needed 10 minutes with the thing. |
| 10:09 |
asciilifeform |
decapping, delayering, imaging a modern cpu is not a lunch break project. |
| 10:09 |
mircea_popescu |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553189 << read what was being said. i do not discuss the matter in outside terms. should WE stop allowing 3-lead addresses, all coins found there will be gone. |
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| 10:09 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 10:49 adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553120 << so this is actually incorrect; should miners stop respecting the P2SH softfork, these coins will suddenly become a lot more spendable than before. anybody who can reproduce the input script preimage could spend them, even if they don't know data which would make that preimage script validate |
| 10:09 |
asciilifeform |
and i am quite uncertain whether in this pesthole there even ~exists~ the requisite instrument. |
| 10:10 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform per-hour cost of car with driver (another ~70k item) is about 100 bux give or take. youget teh idea. |
| 10:11 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform incidentally, this would be great for reddit. "Hi. I live in <ZIP> and I need access to {list} instrument in order to explore the AMD chip so and so. Anyone know anyone ?" |
| 10:12 |
asciilifeform |
how do you sneak a month of instrument time ? |
| 10:12 |
asciilifeform |
this is not an hour of cab. |
| 10:12 |
asciilifeform |
(and the analogy, sadly, falls down, consider how many autos there are, and how many - microscopes.) |
| 10:13 |
PeterL |
presumably if you are paying by hour to use you are not sneaking? |
| 10:13 |
asciilifeform |
if i were paying by hour, it may well add up to most of the cost of the instrument. |
| 10:13 |
asciilifeform |
and fuck, i would buy one right now, if i had where to put ! |
| 10:14 |
asciilifeform |
as often is the case, it is ~space~ that is the expensive piece, in this particular zimbabwe. |
| 10:14 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
| 10:14 |
mircea_popescu |
it's only about 50sqft or so |
| 10:14 |
asciilifeform |
(in mircea_popescu's zimbabwe, it could be the microscope that is expensive, or even unobtainable other than by boat) |
| 10:14 |
mircea_popescu |
nah, this zimbabwe is like pre-collapse soviets. govt pays for it, you use it for beer. |
| 10:17 |
asciilifeform |
ftr, if the amd turd is anything like other recent similar, you will also need ion beam machine |
| 10:18 |
asciilifeform |
(rom will be difficult to read passively, and the most practical way would be to restore whatever antifuses they blew that prevent debugging of the fritz core, and attach debug probe.) |
| 10:22 |
mircea_popescu |
i thought metal is extremely visible in electron microscopy |
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| 10:37 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/90vci/?raw=true |
| 10:41 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: sorry for missing your message I was ptfo by then. |
| 10:42 |
thestringpuller |
Gotta figure out how you are able to manage the Napoleon sleep schedule. |
| 10:50 |
shinohai |
Don't sleep at Waterloo. Just sayin' |
| 10:51 |
shinohai |
!!up btcforchild |
| 10:51 |
deedbot |
btcforchild voiced for 30 minutes. |
| 10:52 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: got it |
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| 11:10 |
btcforchild |
!!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/y36mu/?raw=true |
| 11:10 |
deedbot |
4E0B0F442A0407AEF731ECCFC883F93EF7E4980E registered as btcforchild. |
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| 11:51 |
deedbot |
http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C961D62D59B78442DB2FA4C4ABC4CE874FE0E95418BBDA01785049DB58B02591 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 13118913265992357713749906968914856459229448329385353928317865240153186990772616410386066804476994406481496060266687741570826925431077185850750051547683307 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '112.16.73.12 (ssh-rsa key from 112.16.73.12 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on F |
| 11:51 |
deedbot |
http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/21B9669858203080326DB86F3AB1B88D51F892D38F17EA587F71640F604BA7AD << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 13118913265992357713749906968914856459229448329385353928317865240153186990772616410386066804476994406481496060266687741570826925431077185850750051547683307 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '112.16.65.247 (ssh-rsa key from 112.16.65.247 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on |
| 11:51 |
deedbot |
http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4E7AC0EEF980D94B18797FD2B95C091C4EAC05B15C9FCB329825F05B81B8D903 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 13118913265992357713749906968914856459229448329385353928317865240153186990772616410386066804476994406481496060266687741570826925431077185850750051547683307 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '112.16.65.245 (ssh-rsa key from 112.16.65.245 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on |
| 12:06 |
PeterL |
is there a way to make pgp use something other than sha1 for clearsigning? |
| 12:07 |
shinohai |
Change it under personal digest preferences in .conf? |
| 12:09 |
PeterL |
umm, where is .conf stored? |
| 12:09 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller i dunno man, can't say i try even |
| 12:09 |
shinohai |
~/.gnupg |
| 12:10 |
PeterL |
darn hidden files ... thanks shinohai |
| 12:10 |
shinohai |
np |
| 12:10 |
mircea_popescu |
PeterL yes ; and you should. everyone should ; this is a recurring topic, so plox : http://btcbase.org/log/2014-10-16#877599 |
| 12:10 |
a111 |
Logged on 2014-10-16 14:00 mircea_popescu: btw, cazalla bingoboingo and everyone else in the same situation : if the blob gpg spits out when you sign contains a SHA1 you are using the older, and perhaps not all that secure digest algo. you should move on to sha512 either with --digest-algo SHA512 or else edit gpg.conf to insert personal-digest-preferences SHA512 SHA384 SHA256 |
| 12:14 |
mircea_popescu |
!!key btcforchild |
| 12:14 |
deedbot |
http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/ubabz/?raw=true |
| 12:15 |
PeterL |
changing the hash algo - one of those little things which should be in the "everything you should know when you start using a computer" list |
| 12:17 |
PeterL |
!!deed http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/xx7so/?raw=true |
| 12:18 |
deedbot |
accepted: 1 |
| 12:18 |
mircea_popescu |
da fuck is that lol. starting your own segwit altcoin ? |
| 12:18 |
PeterL |
that is for possible future reference |
| 12:18 |
PeterL |
if needed |
| 12:18 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
| 12:20 |
PeterL |
might be random noise, might be top secret leak, who knows? |
| 12:20 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
| 12:21 |
shinohai |
It's Pieter Wuille's death certificate, that'll be 1 BTC plox |
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| 12:42 |
deedbot |
http://trilema.com/2016/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2016-statement/ << Trilema - No Such lAbs (S.NSA), September 2016 Statement |
| 12:43 |
mircea_popescu |
^ in a shocking development, nsa actually comits to making a thing! |
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| 12:52 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 12:56 |
adlai |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553217 << i don't understand what you mean. the only sense in which coins will be "gone" is that whoever knows first that miners stopped enforcing the "op_eval", and knows preimages, can claim the coins for themselves; but they're not 'gone' in the sense of 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE |
| 12:56 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 14:09 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553189 << read what was being said. i do not discuss the matter in outside terms. should WE stop allowing 3-lead addresses, all coins found there will be gone. |
| 12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
and in further "holy shit broken linux" news : minigame is endeavouring to keep snapshots of various distros to mitigate the fact that the shitheads in charge tend to break software for no reason. to do this, one needs dkpg, and dkpg-dev (not -devel, mind). which enforces arbitrary python and httpd version requirements, because why the fuck not. |
| 12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
it's insanely deep, this fucking swamp. |
| 12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
adlai how would the someone convert my copy of the blockchain so that payment would appear to proceed from a 1-lead bitcoin address ? |
| 12:58 |
adlai |
or by "stop allowing 3-lead addresses" do you mean "we convince 'chinese conspirators' to soft-fork disable op_equal" |
| 12:58 |
adlai |
"addresses" don't actually exist! |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
no ; we release code which ignores attempts to spend 3-whatever addresses ; everyone uses it ; the end. |
| 12:58 |
adlai |
payments come from previous outputs |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
fine. we release code which ignores txn which involve 3-whatever addresses on the in side ; everyone uses it ; the end. |
| 12:58 |
adlai |
"addresses" tell a ~sender~ how to build an output, so that the recipient can spend it later |
| 13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
and in general - "innovation" on top of bitcoin is extremely risky an endeavour. the item itself is the heart of reaction ; and the notion that "nobody would dare" unwind the "developments" of usg.tards runs into the plain statement that i certainly will. |
| 13:05 |
adlai |
sure, but there are two kinds of "unwind" here and i'm not sure which you mean. one is roughly "i will not honor a confirmed bitcoin transaction which has inputs coming from a prevout that looked like [op_hash160 <data> op_equal]", whereas the other is "no miner will honor a block containing any such transaction". the former is easy, the latter requires miner collaboration |
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| 13:05 |
mircea_popescu |
so it does. |
| 13:07 |
mircea_popescu |
if history is any guide, i manage to gather miner support to quash "internet entrepreneurs" of the vc-aspirant variety a whole of a lot more often than the converse. |
| 13:08 |
mircea_popescu |
which is the point here : using ANYTHING made by usg.vc.* is risky, and opens one to various liabilities downstream. including among them - that you will be unwound. |
| 13:14 |
ben_vulpes |
"addresses" are a murky thing, i've discovered. |
| 13:14 |
ben_vulpes |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553084 << thanks! but to quote, "just you wait, henry higgins. just you wait." |
| 13:14 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 00:44 mircea_popescu: mimisbrunnr is pretty coolbool |
| 13:14 |
mircea_popescu |
the whole interface-to-distributed-db thing is broken, not just "wallets" or "accounts" |
| 13:17 |
ben_vulpes |
noshit |
| 13:18 |
ben_vulpes |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553085 << looks fine to me, but nevertheless i'm not interested in fighting browsers over table rendering. |
| 13:18 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 00:45 shinohai: as with links, w3m also barfs on it too |
| 13:18 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes you could use divs... |
| 13:18 |
thestringpuller |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553284 << i wonder if in the future, when the earthquake hits all this "layered innovation", if there will be business in salvaging the rubble (i.e. that spend-all NOOP shit miners are to view as 5 wheel solution) |
| 13:18 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 17:05 adlai: sure, but there are two kinds of "unwind" here and i'm not sure which you mean. one is roughly "i will not honor a confirmed bitcoin transaction which has inputs coming from a prevout that looked like [op_hash160 <data> op_equal]", whereas the other is "no miner will honor a block containing any such transaction". the former is easy, the latter requires miner collaboration |
| 13:19 |
deedbot |
http://deedbot.org/bundle-433006.txt |
| 13:22 |
trinque |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553270 << I would buy an in-WoT RNG yesterday. |
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| 13:22 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 16:43 mircea_popescu: ^ in a shocking development, nsa actually comits to making a thing! |
| 13:23 |
mircea_popescu |
ikr? |
| 13:24 |
ben_vulpes |
mircea_popescu: |
| 13:24 |
ben_vulpes |
sorry, misfire |
| 13:36 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller the problem is that it's not rubble. historically, rubble consists of chunks of cut stone, such as marble, that are intrinsically valuable. this shit is simply human filth ; there wasn't much of a business in salvaging the remains of executed camp inmates in nazi germany ; even through they went over it, burned and bone-ground them later. |
| 13:41 |
shinohai |
ah ben_vulpes ... today it works for me! I blame a previously unknown debian gremlin |
| 13:47 |
PeterL |
<rant> I hate these single spigot fountain beverage dispensers popping up in all the fast-food places (whoopty-doo you can have 1001 flavor combinations, I just want Coke!) so many flavors to choose from, but none of them come out right </rant> |
| 13:48 |
shinohai |
Plus, they don't always clear the lines properly leaving you with weird flavors at time |
| 13:48 |
PeterL |
I guess I deserve it for going to junk-food (heavy on the junk) places |
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| 13:49 |
trinque |
that shit is terrible for you anyway. |
| 13:50 |
PeterL |
Cherry coke - good. Coke flavored with random portion of cherry syrup - bleh |
| 13:50 |
PeterL |
yeah, I know how bad it is |
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| 14:10 |
PeterL |
!!v 0E758089768DECACC658B03122394CCE1711DDFFA9DE31FFAC09001694057AEE |
| 14:10 |
deedbot |
PeterL rated trinque 1 << made deedbot |
| 14:14 |
PeterL |
!!v 709360E31CAA0B7E12E52ABA1D26BE3718E8234A6E0BD161687AED5673961BC9 |
| 14:14 |
deedbot |
PeterL rated asciilifeform 1 << the real brains around here |
| 14:19 |
PeterL |
!!v 8B2A8DFB32D319BF6FF99D6F7EDA3DD86A3F03C8F185060EE9F9986481AAA5EA |
| 14:19 |
deedbot |
PeterL rated mod6 1 << the real bitcoin foundation |
| 14:20 |
PeterL |
!!v 90DA7BF1367248CCDAC6AEAF7778EEAE0DF035D0D8FF82A32FC7525930775566 |
| 14:20 |
deedbot |
PeterL rated ben_vulpes 1 << the real bitcoin foundation |
| 14:35 |
* |
ben_vulpes waves at PeterL |
| 14:39 |
mod6 |
PeterL: o7 |
| 14:41 |
ben_vulpes |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-04#1552690 << any notion of the odds on apu2 being useful for the republic, asciilifeform ? |
| 14:41 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-04 15:36 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS! pc engines 'apu2' (the board with the intel nics - vs. 'apu1', with realtek) , turns out, is crippled, hdt probe barfs with it, the cpu is reputed to have a drm fuse set. |
| 14:41 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: only if that amd key phuctors. or the idiocy in subj thread is finessed in some other way. |
| 14:42 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: i won't be touching this one, not for a long while. got full hands. |
| 14:42 |
PeterL |
is "crippled" bad in this case, or is it good in that it is easier for us to exploit for our own uses? |
| 14:42 |
asciilifeform |
the former. |
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| 15:50 |
shinohai |
!~later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/1trU |
| 15:50 |
jhvh1 |
shinohai: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:50 |
mircea_popescu |
every day PeterL migrates closer in my head to the absolute epitome of midwest. |
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| 15:51 |
adlai |
mircea_popescu: dude there is tons of 'cut stone' here. i don't expect you to visit the non-WoT p2sh.info, but i'll tl;dr for you: there are currently just over 1.8 million btc secured by the goodwill of miners, and a nested ripemd160(sha256(x)) collision |
| 15:52 |
adlai |
this is more than satoshi's stash, and probably much easier to salvage, should miners allow it |
| 15:53 |
adlai |
(much/all of satoshi's stash is p2pk, not p2pkh, so a secp256k1 compromise will make those pennies ripe for taking) |
| 15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
you're confusing topics. the cut stone / non cut stone was a discussion of the "contributions" in the shape of ideas, code, etc ; not of the way they fucked up pre-existing, and unrelated to them, bitcoin |
| 16:02 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway ; other than this, asciilifeform is broadly correct re the intended endgame of these various "innovations". |
| 16:02 |
shinohai |
!~later tell BingoBoingo Ignore first submission and use this revised one plz http://ix.io/1ts3 |
| 16:02 |
jhvh1 |
shinohai: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:05 |
adlai |
ok ok ok, the issue was thestringpuller's ambiguous use of "rubble", i assumed he meant the coins themselves, you're interpreting it as the 'innovations'. w/e. it's impossible to 'destroy' coins through layers such as p2sh, segwit, drivechain, etc; it just makes coins less tightly controlled, and more dependent on miner goodwill |
| 16:06 |
mircea_popescu |
it's quite possible to destroy coins, yes. |
| 16:06 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno how you manage to come back to the same vomit. but it is vomit. |
| 16:06 |
adlai |
segwit is much worse (or better!) than p2sh in this regard, aiui, you don't even need to find a preimage to spend them |
| 16:06 |
shinohai |
!~bible 2 Peter 2:22 |
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| 16:06 |
jhvh1 |
shinohai: [KJV] 2 Peter 2:22 :: But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. |
| 16:06 |
adlai |
what exactly is vomit? please, point out.... or don't. i'm sitting out of this 'argument', have fun. |
| 16:07 |
mircea_popescu |
very simply put : if you use usg.vc.* which * means ANYHING, then anything (which means ANYTHING!) you touch, including your own money, your own bitcoin, your own penis, wife, life, whatever - can be destroyed in the process. and probably will be. |
| 16:07 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno how to make it simpler than that, so there it is. |
| 16:07 |
mircea_popescu |
adlai vomit is the notion that you can usg and survive. you can't. if you do anything whatsoever, without any exception at all, that involves them, the only endgame for you is losing it. |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
use 3address ? you will lose your bitcoin. use prb ? you will lose your bitcoin. pick your poison, if it's theirs it's marked. |
| 16:08 |
lobbes |
http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-10-05.log.html#t16:53:23 << and thus we can conclude that the tardstalk folk aren't even worth their weight in biodiesel. Ah well |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
lobbes can't say i didn't try. |
| 16:08 |
shinohai |
asciilifeform was sadly correct |
| 16:20 |
PeterL |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553330 << is being "epitome of midwest" a good thing? |
| 16:20 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 19:50 mircea_popescu: every day PeterL migrates closer in my head to the absolute epitome of midwest. |
| 16:26 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno. it can be or not depending what you're after. |
| 16:26 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda how epitomy works. |
| 16:30 |
mircea_popescu |
(speaking of which, "the rise and fall of the great powers" by kennedy is not altogether a bad book. esp. as "nobody could have predicted" in 1987) |
| |
~ 45 minutes ~ |
| 17:16 |
* |
asciilifeform will be operating on a pulsed, rather than continuous-wave duty cycle for next week or so, plox to pm if something is desperately broken, if you are in my l1, siren will go off, eventually will answer. |
| 17:20 |
ben_vulpes |
bon chance! |
| |
~ 37 minutes ~ |
| 17:57 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes you know chance's a woman. |
| 17:58 |
shinohai |
I love the bitch, even when she is cruel |
| 18:01 |
ben_vulpes |
rebroadcasting from the heathens: https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-loses-darknet-market-in-apparent-exit-scam |
| 18:01 |
shinohai |
qntra on that incoming if BingoBoingo gets back |
| 18:02 |
* |
mircea_popescu will wait and read teh qntra |
| 18:02 |
shinohai |
It may in fact save your eyes from burning |
| 18:03 |
mircea_popescu |
i believe. |
| 18:03 |
BingoBoingo |
lulzchecking |
| 18:05 |
shinohai |
The lulzy part is a darknet market scamming for ~100k though not impossible twas just smash and grab |
| 18:09 |
deedbot |
http://qntra.net/2016/10/oasis-drained-while-major-monero-webwallet-languishes-offline/ << Qntra - Oasis Drained While Major Monero Webwallet Languishes Offline |
| 18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
aww. |
| 18:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Digging through the link-kive takes time and finess |
| 18:11 |
shinohai |
ty BingoBoingo |
| 18:11 |
ben_vulpes |
fwiw fluffyponzi claims web wallet is not offline |
| 18:12 |
* |
ben_vulpes does not care, simply amused |
| 18:12 |
shinohai |
heh it DOES appear to be up now |
| 18:12 |
ben_vulpes |
something's returning html |
| 18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news http://67.media.tumblr.com/79a6579f8bbc0400cae64fd3fff1ee55/tumblr_ni31xj6TXp1tfytxzo1_500.gif |
| 18:13 |
shinohai |
amazing what appearing in tabloid crypto news outlets does for your motivation |
| 18:16 |
shinohai |
should correction be added BingoBoingo ? |
| 18:18 |
trinque |
that is the correct amount of thigh. |
| 18:23 |
mircea_popescu |
from the same source, "don't wrap it and tap it ; tape her and rape her." |
| 18:25 |
shinohai |
lol |
| 18:26 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently there's also a "bitch please, cut if before you fuck it" |
| 18:26 |
mircea_popescu |
who knew this is such a theme |
| |
~ 25 minutes ~ |
| 18:51 |
BingoBoingo |
shinohai: corrected |
| 18:52 |
shinohai |
ty |
| 18:52 |
shinohai |
sorry |
| 18:52 |
shinohai |
!~ty |
| 18:52 |
jhvh1 |
You are very welcome Daddy |
| 18:56 |
jurov |
!~hallelujah |
| 18:56 |
jhvh1 |
jurov: Error: "hallelujah" is not a valid command. |
| 18:58 |
ben_vulpes |
https://gcaptain.com/photos-show-catastrophic-damage-to-hsv-swift-following-missile-attack/ << in case anyone's curious what the littoral combat ships will look like in another decade |
| |
~ 30 minutes ~ |
| 19:29 |
pete_dushenski |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553099 << right you are, alfalant-in-training |
| 19:29 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 01:05 shinohai: I think pete_dushenski mentioned it, don't quote me on that though. |
| 19:30 |
pete_dushenski |
the high-s tx in questions is still pending to this very day. |
| 19:30 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: nifty work on the new tool yo |
| 19:31 |
pete_dushenski |
who knew you were so... norse |
| 19:31 |
pete_dushenski |
you one-a those mythical blue-eyed jews ? |
| 19:39 |
ben_vulpes |
pete_dushenski: waldorf school does strange things to a kid |
| 19:39 |
ben_vulpes |
you should see the kid though |
| 19:39 |
pete_dushenski |
apparently so |
| 19:39 |
pete_dushenski |
ya ? |
| 19:39 |
pete_dushenski |
y'know you can blog such things (unless you're still on sm) |
| 19:40 |
ben_vulpes |
veritably golden locks |
| 19:40 |
pete_dushenski |
bad ass |
| 19:40 |
ben_vulpes |
you know, i'm not particularly inclined to put the kids face on my website. |
| 19:41 |
ben_vulpes |
'daddy blogger' i r not. |
| 19:41 |
mircea_popescu |
and in other "faces of competence", http://66.media.tumblr.com/aab1622bf11c5840338258672c38952a/tumblr_nhtvxqWe9h1tvhieuo2_500.gif |
| 19:41 |
shinohai |
That makes you sane. |
| 19:42 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: not surprised |
| 19:42 |
ben_vulpes |
odd domestic optimization posts aside. |
| 19:43 |
* |
ben_vulpes off to don the commuter yeti |
| 19:49 |
shinohai |
ben_vulpes: I took the liberty of linking to mimi from jhvh1 so one can quickly get page link to specified block |
| 19:50 |
pete_dushenski |
o.O nice. what's the command ? |
| 19:50 |
* |
pete_dushenski will update directory |
| 19:51 |
shinohai |
!~btc.blocks 512 |
| 19:51 |
jhvh1 |
http://mimisbrunnr.cascadianhacker.com/blocks?height=512 |
| 19:51 |
pete_dushenski |
win. |
| 19:54 |
shinohai |
guess I could change command to mimi or something, whatever works |
| 19:54 |
pete_dushenski |
i'd suggest leaving it. it's easier to remember as-is |
| 19:56 |
shinohai |
worx for me |
| 19:58 |
mircea_popescu |
o nice shinohai |
| 19:58 |
pete_dushenski |
shinohai: think you can add !~btc.blocks.raw or something to that effect with the '&raw=true' at the end of the url ? |
| 19:58 |
shinohai |
sure |
| 19:59 |
shinohai |
!~Alias add btc.blocks.raw echo "http://mimisbrunnr.cascadianhacker.com/blocks?height=$1&raw=true" |
| 19:59 |
jhvh1 |
shinohai: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:59 |
shinohai |
!~btc.blocks.raw 34 |
| 19:59 |
jhvh1 |
http://mimisbrunnr.cascadianhacker.com/blocks?height=34&raw=true |
| 20:00 |
pete_dushenski |
sweet |
| 20:00 |
shinohai |
good bot |
| 20:00 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/by43h/?raw=true |
| 20:00 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah that alias is teh way to go. |
| 20:01 |
shinohai |
the Lords have spoken |
| 20:05 |
pete_dushenski |
directory updated. |
| 20:07 |
shinohai |
ty |
| 20:08 |
shinohai |
I still have nfi why it isn't sending you a gpgram on Sundays I think not enough lines yet to trigger it |
| 20:08 |
pete_dushenski |
!#s manual then automate |
| 20:08 |
a111 |
0 results for "manual then automate", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=manual%20then%20automate |
| 20:08 |
pete_dushenski |
or something to that effect |
| 20:11 |
pete_dushenski |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553177 << jeebus that's vigorous fucking. next time use a roller coaster to pass the kidney stones. on second thought there's no way b-a has such an amenity. |
| 20:11 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 06:16 mircea_popescu: and it loosened her calculi. |
| 20:12 |
pete_dushenski |
http://jaoa.org/article.aspx?articleid=2557373 << roller coasters as kidney stone cure reference |
| 20:12 |
shinohai |
mircea_popescu goes to Home Depot to pay BingoBoingo a visit: http://archive.is/FN2Ot |
| 20:12 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently it's more the angle than the force. |
| 20:14 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ckib6/?raw=true . |
| 20:15 |
shinohai |
feebs secretly arrest nsa contractor I missed that one http://archive.is/RclkQ |
| 20:24 |
pete_dushenski |
in other spits and fliers, https://thenanfang.com/china-to-boost-airport-infrastructure-by-billions/ |
| 20:25 |
pete_dushenski |
66 all-new airports in 5 years. |
| 20:26 |
pete_dushenski |
and you thought the internet would kill the need for air travel. ha! |
| 20:26 |
pete_dushenski |
bbl. |
| 20:30 |
* |
BingoBoingo wouldn't be caught anywhere near appliances |
| 20:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Perfectly good appliances can be had from metal dealer |
| 20:36 |
BingoBoingo |
"The question came up after Donald Trumps recent appearance on The Dr. Oz Show, in which it was revealed his weight and heightif his numbers are to be believed, his BMI is 30.3, which qualifies as obese." << OMG The trumpenfuher is an Obeast! |
| 20:38 |
shinohai |
https://twitter.com/SatoshiShinohai/status/783800963719106560 |
| |
~ 41 minutes ~ |
| 21:19 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=5383 |
| 21:30 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.alpharubicon.com/quippage/urbaninvisibility.htm |
| 21:40 |
ben_vulpes |
shinohai: tight |
| 21:41 |
ben_vulpes |
oh and pete_dushenski belated thanks! |
| 21:51 |
ben_vulpes |
pete_dushenski: your node still running with an extraordinary number of connections? |
| 21:52 |
trinque |
ben_vulpes: that block sexp is damned cool! |
| 21:52 |
trinque |
nice job |
| 21:55 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo kinda why "the butler did it" exists in the first place. |
| 21:57 |
BingoBoingo |
Or in the recent parisian invasion and gagging, it was done to the BUTTler. |
| 21:58 |
ben_vulpes |
trinque: thanks dood |
| 21:59 |
ben_vulpes |
if you use that sexpr for anything automatedly, keep in mind that i will be transforming the list of transactions into an alist keyed on tx hash (aka id) once i get the db in place |
| 22:00 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/kdfdo/?raw=true |
| 22:01 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo butter lol. is it true btw she got ugly recently ? |
| 22:01 |
BingoBoingo |
As is the way of her people after having baby she got round in less desirable places. |
| 22:02 |
mircea_popescu |
age gets to them all... |
| 22:02 |
BingoBoingo |
Her current bodyshape is rather similar to Hillary's. The political implications of this are unclear |
| 22:05 |
mircea_popescu |
https://ximage.me/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Kim-Kardashian-pussy.jpg << from better days ; looks exactly like home! |
| 22:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Now imagine the view being marred by a midsection "tire" |
| 22:07 |
mircea_popescu |
;/ |
| 22:07 |
* |
BingoBoingo breaking in new gloves by typing with them on |
| 22:09 |
BingoBoingo |
And other fine tasks |
| 22:11 |
mircea_popescu |
http://67.media.tumblr.com/999cc352da9580e206dc1694be5bfa89/tumblr_mykvspt9rW1symi8mo1_400.gif << eat moar plastics! |
| 22:12 |
* |
shinohai goes back to looking at Kim's ass |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 22:28 |
* |
asciilifeform encountered for 1st time the mega-20th-c-popsong where '... Des Edelmannes Kindelein, heia hoho, \ das schicken wir in die Höll’ hinein, heia hoho. \ Des Edelmannes Töchterlein, heia hoho, \ soll heute uns’re Buhle sein, heia hoho...' and could not help but recall mircea_popescu's 'daughter sausage' concept. |
| 22:31 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: ayup. 68 connex when i last checked a few hours ago. yours too ? |
| 22:38 |
ben_vulpes |
75 |
| 22:38 |
ben_vulpes |
wat dat |
| 22:40 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/5cham/?raw=true << possib. qntrable. |
| 22:41 |
asciilifeform |
with mega-gold, e.g., 'Complete discovery would likely require defense counsel to obtain appropriate security clearances (which they do not possess), and appropriate facilities to be prepared and made available to the defense for review and storage of any classified materials. In anticipation of that possibility, the process of obtaining security clearances was initiated shortly after the complaint in this case was issued, to avoid d |
| 22:41 |
asciilifeform |
elays later in the case. Obtaining the required clearances, if deemed necessary, may take weeks or months. Furthermore, if it is deemed necessary for defense counsel to review classified material, preparing and certifying appropriate facilities would also take several weeks.' |
| 22:42 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: jews must be in season. high holidays and all that. |
| 22:43 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: AHA, I've been looking into how to cover. |
| 22:44 |
BingoBoingo |
I've also been looking into starting a Monsanto and marketing "Priviledge" as the banner product. |
| 22:45 |
* |
pete_dushenski is trying new synagogue this year for first time ever. had to make move because rabbi > congregation, just as king > kommoonitee, and old joint lost rabbi because small-time. |
| 22:46 |
pete_dushenski |
though options are awfully limited for man with goy fambly! |
| 22:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Naturally "Priviledge" (TM)(R) is for oppressing west african warm season grasses in superior turf |
| 22:46 |
ben_vulpes |
pete_dushenski: wat |
| 22:46 |
ben_vulpes |
how do goyim rels figure into synagogue choice |
| 22:47 |
trinque |
The parties are engaged in pre-indictment discovery, and exploring the possibility of resolving this matter prior to presentation of the case to a grand jury. << sounds like "swear publically that you are not a Snowden" because that will do something. |
| 22:48 |
trinque |
they are screwed because they actually believe this concensus reality shit where "public opinion" matters and might be swayed by n+1 Snowdens. |
| 22:48 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: orthodox and chabad don't take kindly to 'mixed' couples, leaving reform and conservative (no reconstructionists in these orclands) |
| 22:48 |
BingoBoingo |
trinque: Nah, its the Ulbricht circle jerk again. Admit thing is yours to invoke privacy while admitting guilt |
| 22:49 |
ben_vulpes |
well yeah, but are there really that few conservative synagogues out there? |
| 22:50 |
pete_dushenski |
and since kid's gotta ~be~ something, and that something is a joo because there's no leg to stand on on the girl's side. and 'round here there's ~exactly~ one congregation of each sect. one. |
| 22:52 |
pete_dushenski |
i dun think jews figure into 0.05% of pop here. and yet, the 'yud' arena is a thing (http://www.contravex.com/2016/09/22/drake-summer-sixteen-tour/#footnote_1_16519). go figure. |
| 22:56 |
pete_dushenski |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553308 << um. yea. this place has standards! jeez! |
| 22:56 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 17:48 PeterL: I guess I deserve it for going to junk-food (heavy on the junk) places |
| 22:56 |
pete_dushenski |
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-05#1553342 << i lolled |
| 22:56 |
a111 |
Logged on 2016-10-05 20:06 shinohai: !~bible 2 Peter 2:22 |
| 22:57 |
pete_dushenski |
is anyone else impressed by shinohai's biblical callback memory ? |
| 22:59 |
trinque |
bible did "the pig likes it" first eh? how bout that. |
| 22:59 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_dushenski: ANy progress with your mulch guys and their landscaping business? Or did it fodl after you gave them their first job. |
| 23:05 |
pete_dushenski |
mulch guys are still ready and willing but my properties have exceedingly little streetscape so i only need them once or twice a year |
| 23:06 |
pete_dushenski |
afaik i'm their only client |
| 23:07 |
pete_dushenski |
in the roman sense of the term, obv., as per http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/23/so-whats-a-client-in-the-roman-sense-of-the-term/ |
| 23:08 |
pete_dushenski |
man this tempranillo is hitting the spot |
| 23:09 |
pete_dushenski |
BingoBoingo: for the naive, what means "invoke privacy" ? |
| 23:10 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_dushenski: You know the whole warrants vs parrallel construction charade |
| 23:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe you should convert that termite bait into turf? |
| 23:11 |
ben_vulpes |
one lol poor babby |
| 23:16 |
pete_dushenski |
BingoBoingo: termites ? this is ~siberia. what termites. there aren't even (offically) rats. lynx is more frequently spotted. |
| 23:17 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: rite. |
| 23:17 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_dushenski: It's the principle of the thing. A lord in addition to the fief must have a small makework to demonstrate he has land he can afford neither to use for producing crops nor for composting woodchips upon. |
| 23:19 |
* |
pete_dushenski is very, very minor lord in meatspace, or any space for that matter |
| 23:20 |
BingoBoingo |
All the better reason to install artificially heated Zoysiagrass on your little bit of tundra |
| 23:22 |
BingoBoingo |
Or since canada you could have your typical lush fine fescues mowed to a height of 1.75cm |
| 23:23 |
pete_dushenski |
mmmm centimetres |
| 23:25 |
BingoBoingo |
I mean you could take it down to 1.5cm or lower |
| 23:26 |
BingoBoingo |
Or bentgrass prolly would work. A putting green right outside the orfice! |
| 23:28 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo> trinque: Nah, its the Ulbricht circle jerk again. Admit thing is yours to invoke privacy while admitting guilt << that was pretty ridoinculous, i recall. "you have a choice of self-incriminating through avenue a or b ; with a as the default if you pick nothing. what's your choice ? whadda ya mean this is nonsense, that's how we pick presidents also! GREAT DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF AFRICA!" |
| 23:28 |
BingoBoingo |
^^ |
| 23:28 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe it gets a special roundup plus of its own once there's more noise to nooze up |
| 23:37 |
pete_dushenski |
BingoBoingo: more of a poa annua man myself. but anything's better than bluegrass, which has to be the single most bizarre and unkind species to ever afflict the genteel sport of golf. |
| 23:41 |
pete_dushenski |
hm. i meant bermuda didn't i. this is what happens when you semi-retire! |
| 23:41 |
pete_dushenski |
anyways, when putting on bermuda, you have to account for the direction... of the sun! it has the funkiest grain to it. |
| 23:44 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_dushenski: reread http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2016/10/01/social-justice-lawncare-agricultural-marxism-for-the-collective-home-lawn/ |
| 23:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Also Poa Annua is a weed. Basically the winter version of crabgrass. |
| 23:48 |
BingoBoingo |
brb, sleep |