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00:10 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
00:10 gribble Current Blocks: 422299 | Current Difficulty: 2.1349250110751337E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 423359 | Next Difficulty In: 1060 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 2 hours, 11 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
00:10 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
00:10 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 656.04, vol: 2447.54486577 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 647.239, vol: 3250.26899 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 654.2, vol: 15495.29185835 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 655.590192, vol: 93367.19340000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 653.74, vol: 763.61909007 | Volume-weighted last average: 655.165328116
00:16 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=4877
00:22 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=4879
~ 1 hours 33 minutes ~
01:56 deedbot [Qntra] US Standards Institute Prepares To "Ban" SMS 2 Factor Authentication - http://qntra.net/2016/07/us-standards-institute-prepares-to-ban-sms-2-factor-authentication/
~ 2 hours 49 minutes ~
04:46 jurov http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
~ 3 hours 58 minutes ~
08:44 shinohai ;;bc,stats
08:44 gribble Current Blocks: 422347 | Current Difficulty: 2.1349250110751337E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 423359 | Next Difficulty In: 1012 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 16 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
~ 40 minutes ~
09:25 thestringpuller miners are defecting from eth to mine ethc
09:37 jurov thestringpuller: cited reasons?
09:38 jurov or just contrarian?
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~ 15 minutes ~
09:53 thestringpuller you can see the difficulty rising on eth stats
09:53 thestringpuller http://fork.ethstats.net/
09:54 thestringpuller ;;calc 398.8 / 4131.0
09:54 gribble 0.0965383684338
09:54 thestringpuller oh wow they have 10% of the hasspower now up from 5%
09:55 thestringpuller i was going to mine etc, but didn't want to get into huffing inhalants.
~ 52 minutes ~
10:47 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510006 << no, just #trilema reader.
10:47 a111 Logged on 2016-07-26 13:38 jurov: or just contrarian?
~ 27 minutes ~
11:14 mircea_popescu lol look at un-bailed out ethereum version, tripled overnight ?
11:15 shinohai like a steam engine, has paid out dao attacker it appears
11:19 mircea_popescu aha. whole lulz delayed enough to allow payout.
11:23 shinohai ;;later tell mod6 issue from last nite fixed, working nau: http://bit-box.org:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x4a75883cc1b1d34c&op=vindex
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11:23 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:35 mircea_popescu shinohai check this out : https://archive.is/fork.ethstats.net
11:36 mircea_popescu 4298.0 GH/s 164.7 GH/s 25 Jul 2016 21:57:57 UTC 3529.7 GH/s 523.3 GH/s 26 Jul 2016 15:35:03 UTC
11:36 mircea_popescu it's not only that scamcoin-with-bailouts lost 20% in the past 18 hours.
11:37 mircea_popescu it's that the whole scam ecosystem went from 4298.0+164.7 = 4462 to 3529.7+523.3=4053 ie a ~10% loss of interest overnight.
11:38 mircea_popescu such is the wonderful if suicidal power of hard forks, and stephen tual pretending like he's a person, who may speak and have opinions, rather than admitting he's cattle, and should be sold by the pound off hooks in butcheries for a discount over pork bellies.
11:39 mircea_popescu now go qntra it.
11:44 thestringpuller oh wow down to 3569
11:47 mircea_popescu it is free... freefalling...
11:51 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> now go qntra it. << Working on a draft already
11:51 BingoBoingo But thestringpuller this one could use double coverage since gloating
11:52 deedbot [Trilema] How to correctly value forked chains ? - http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-correctly-value-forked-chains/
11:52 thestringpuller remember no access to Airgap key until 330 EST
11:52 mircea_popescu it's pretty lulzy all round.
11:57 BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/4up9li/how_to_correctly_value_forked_chains/
11:58 mircea_popescu haha cool.
12:03 mod6 shinohai: hey cool!
12:06 shinohai thx mod6 :D
~ 21 minutes ~
12:28 asciilifeform in other lulz, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/07/the-power-of-nyet.html
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12:28 asciilifeform ' If you are supposed to think and act like a hegemon, but only the thinking part still works, then the result is cognitive dissonance.'
12:35 BingoBoingo "Hegemon Go" would be a smartphone app I could get behind.
12:36 asciilifeform download this app from u.s. state dept.
12:36 asciilifeform doubless, they have it.
12:36 asciilifeform *doubtless
12:36 BingoBoingo Not in the form I imagine it.
12:37 asciilifeform shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510018 << what's this ?
12:37 a111 Logged on 2016-07-26 15:23 shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 issue from last nite fixed, working nau: http://bit-box.org:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x4a75883cc1b1d34c&op=vindex
12:37 deedbot [Qntra] Ether Huffing Ecosystem Loses 10% Mining Interest Overnight, Hashrate On Bailout Free Chain Climbing - http://qntra.net/2016/07/ether-huffing-ecosystem-loses-10-mining-interest-overnight-hashrate-on-bailout-free-chain-climbing/
12:38 BingoBoingo The way I imagine it working is you have your assistant/slave/general following you and capturing incidents of you oppressing those who require it, and based on how many points of "Glories" you collect, you get to reward yourself however you wish.
12:44 BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4upkkd/hardfork_hazards_both_ethereum_chains_lose_10/
12:47 shinohai asciilifeform: it is a hypothetical keyserver
12:50 asciilifeform shinohai: who did you get to peer with it ?
12:50 asciilifeform i set up an sks node at one point but barfed when i learned that i would have to ask heathens for PERMISSION
12:51 shinohai not currently peered to anyone as far as i can tell
12:51 asciilifeform then it does not function
12:52 asciilifeform at least, not with regard to keys moving in/out.
12:52 asciilifeform sks peerings have to be enabled on BOTH ends
~ 22 minutes ~
13:14 BingoBoingo $up felipelalli
13:14 deedbot felipelalli voiced for 30 minutes.
13:18 asciilifeform ;;later tell BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2016/07/hastert-fights-suit-over-unpaid-hush-money << breech->breach
13:18 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:19 BingoBoingo ty, fxing though Hastert did have a thing for entering the breech
13:22 ben_vulpes http://www.northofreality.com/tales/2016/7/25/egg-encryption
13:25 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: reminds me of 1990s gem 'the mizarian mice'
13:26 mircea_popescu o look at that, thestringpuller had the eth lulz in the logs earlier. wd eh.
13:27 asciilifeform in other nyooz, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1d108b1837a182293818aaeb366b6933
13:27 asciilifeform (why they put it ~there~, i have nfi)
13:30 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo Similarly ten percent of the mining interest in the Buterin blessed << more like 20 really.
13:31 BingoBoingo ty fxd
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14:32 asciilifeform from the dept of lulz, http://www.databreachtoday.com/dnc-breach-more-severe-than-first-believed-a-9287
14:33 asciilifeform i thought orlov was stretching the truth, but apparently not - the new Official Narrative is 'trump is ru agent'
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14:43 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: That narrative has been hinted since March
14:44 BingoBoingo Maybe earlier
14:46 asciilifeform anyone here have a 'somethingawful' account ?
14:59 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
14:59 gribble Current Blocks: 422376 | Current Difficulty: 2.1349250110751337E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 423359 | Next Difficulty In: 983 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 22 hours, 15 minutes, and 29 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
14:59 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
14:59 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 655.55, vol: 2998.33517588 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 647.0, vol: 4884.87185 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 656.36, vol: 19641.48497918 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 655.563666, vol: 144866.82960000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 659.06, vol: 1116.54189106 | Volume-weighted last average: 655.43497803
~ 1 hours 6 minutes ~
16:05 asciilifeform in other nyooz, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/smeg.jpg
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16:05 asciilifeform ^ in a restaurant.
16:09 BingoBoingo Did someone not use a level when making floor?
16:10 asciilifeform possibly.
16:10 BingoBoingo Also vinyl "tile" in commercial setting?!
16:11 asciilifeform aha
16:11 asciilifeform and pretty common outside of the mcfood world
16:14 BingoBoingo Only suitable floor for commercial use is concrete, preferably reinforced.
16:15 BingoBoingo Especially in restaurants.
16:15 BingoBoingo Otherwise how are servers going to evacuate 1000 pound customers with the electric pallet jack and the fork truck?
16:16 BingoBoingo If nursing homes get fined for not doing this why not fine restaurants?
16:17 BingoBoingo Anyways the reason you can't use anything other than concrete is there's no way to deep clean the lesser floor materials
16:18 asciilifeform i generally do not go to places where you eat off the floor...
16:19 BingoBoingo That doesn't mean floor stops existing.
16:20 asciilifeform it means i have nfi why it has to be 'deep cleaned'
16:21 BingoBoingo Because 'Murica. Every now and then a disgruntled customer is going to shit on the floor. That's how food service works.
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16:21 BingoBoingo At least in the United States
16:22 asciilifeform BingoBoingo ought to vacation sometime, 100 mile from nearest monkeyman
16:22 asciilifeform he will enjoy, i promise
16:22 asciilifeform (the 100 is a minimum)
16:23 BingoBoingo Anyways vinyl your best hope is bleaching with bleach. Concrete you can bleach with concentrated HCL
16:23 asciilifeform vinyl is 'cleaned' by ripping off and new vinyl.
16:23 BingoBoingo And cheap plywood subfloor that probably isn't even oriented strand board?
16:24 asciilifeform what does BingoBoingo do atop of these, such that they require cleaning ?
16:25 BingoBoingo Why plan to limit the subset of acceptable activities when opening your commercial space to the public?
16:26 * asciilifeform pictures BingoBoingo building himself a house, then licensing with the city as 'grade A abbatoir' just-in-case...
16:26 BingoBoingo Nah prolly just license as "warehouse"
16:27 BingoBoingo or ark
16:28 BingoBoingo Phun Phact, The ark of the covenant was where the Jooz kept their GPG keys
16:29 BingoBoingo But anyways no amount of being able to cheaply rip up vinyl floor makes it suitable for customer evacuating pallet jack
16:30 BingoBoingo And fork truck
16:31 asciilifeform where can i donate to lobby for human fat to be assessed as fuel for purpose of fire code ?
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16:34 BingoBoingo I think the political action committee for that is still 2-5 years away
16:35 asciilifeform lolk
16:37 BingoBoingo I mean if you move to small town midwest you could probably get such a rule done on your own in 18 months
16:38 asciilifeform yeah but then i'd be in smalltownmidwest.
16:38 asciilifeform and would be quite busy, e.g., buggering dead badgers to the tune of a banjo, or whatever it is that one does there.
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16:40 BingoBoingo But you'd have fiber internet without signing soul over to Verizon/Comcast
16:42 asciilifeform from where ?
16:42 asciilifeform god drops fibre from heaven, or what
16:43 BingoBoingo From having already been built
16:44 asciilifeform built by whom ?
16:45 BingoBoingo By the people who live in the towns with 5kilo-20kilo people and want the internet to not suck, but they towns aren't so big demoocracy and Rhonda get in the way
16:46 asciilifeform what's a rhonda
16:47 BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicken/
16:47 asciilifeform ah
16:48 BingoBoingo Towns of that magical size where they can be like "fuck it, let the churches do the welfare"
16:49 BingoBoingo And nearest food stamp, HUD, Social Services office, is either a half hours drive away or a full day's walk away
16:49 asciilifeform any towns with church-curated fiber ?
16:49 asciilifeform might be interesting experience
16:50 asciilifeform and incidentally i am pretty sure that at this very moment i am in a town where the nearest foodstamp recipient is a full day's walk away.
16:50 asciilifeform and no residential fiber, believe or not, to be seen, anywhere.
16:51 BingoBoingo Nah, church doesn't get to touch fiber like town doesn't get to touch welfare
16:51 BingoBoingo Your problem is the coastiness
16:52 asciilifeform how's that a problem ?
16:52 BingoBoingo And these criteria on their own are not enough
16:53 BingoBoingo Coastiness is a problem because it breeds unwarranted self importance due to proximity to bigger cities
16:53 BingoBoingo Coastiness provides bad metrics for competing with neighboring towns
16:54 asciilifeform i am at a loss for how this adds up to 'no fiber'
16:54 BingoBoingo Coastiness also promotes more itinerants and less people attached to their location
16:54 asciilifeform mno. not here.
16:54 asciilifeform this place is perhaps 90+% moneyed retirees.
16:55 BingoBoingo Ah, so their problem is they don't work
16:55 asciilifeform of course not
16:55 asciilifeform why would they
16:56 asciilifeform so far my working hypothesis is that there is no fiber because it dun work on a yacht.
16:56 BingoBoingo Which is another coastal problem that prevents http://www.highlandcommunicationservices.com/residential-plans.htm
16:57 asciilifeform 'highland communications' << tcp-over-bagpipe ?
16:58 BingoBoingo If bagpipe can carry gigabit
16:58 asciilifeform incidentally it would appear that BingoBoingo's isp ^ costs, ~to a penny, what verizon costs.
16:58 asciilifeform (at the GB tier, actually $100 MOAR)
16:58 asciilifeform so where is the win ?
16:58 asciilifeform if this existed in my locale, i'd be hard-pressed for a reason to switch to it
16:59 BingoBoingo The win is Verizon doesn't eat and Verizon isn't here anymore. Competition is Charter and Frontier.
16:59 asciilifeform tentacles of same octopus.
16:59 asciilifeform (frontier iirc consists now largely of off-loaded verizon units)
17:00 BingoBoingo Sure but verizon units as they were when offloaded so here copper
17:00 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: when you say 'competition', do you mean that you can get fiber from the other 2 ?
17:00 asciilifeform or is dsl somehow 'competition'
17:01 BingoBoingo competition as in "internet that involves wired connection"
17:01 asciilifeform lol
17:01 asciilifeform then the matchstick chariot i made as a kid, pulled by beetles, is competition for ferrari.
17:02 asciilifeform (hey it beats on price!111)
17:03 BingoBoingo Except flip who built what vehicle
17:04 asciilifeform ?
17:04 thestringpuller ;;later tell BingoBoingo I'm trying to find a place to look at seasons for various crops in various states...why is this so hard...
17:04 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:05 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: If ford and chevy offer cardboard wagon and you build actual metal truck to serve your need where is the problem?
17:05 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Because one can not agriculture without having agricultured before
17:06 BingoBoingo It is agriCULTURE not agriGoogleandhopeforthebest
17:06 asciilifeform there is such a thing as 'farmer's almanac'
17:06 asciilifeform afaik in dead tree strictly.
17:06 asciilifeform go, read.
17:07 asciilifeform 'when to plant x' is documented.
17:07 asciilifeform other things - not so much.
17:12 BingoBoingo It is one way to start getting familiar with the culture
17:12 BingoBoingo Different agricultures vary though. We grow loofah for sponge, Preet grows Loofah for eating, etc
17:13 BingoBoingo Sandwich tomato makes awfule sauce tomato, etc
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17:57 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510069 << high up there in the top of idiocies ustards will eat up.
17:57 a111 Logged on 2016-07-26 18:33 asciilifeform: i thought orlov was stretching the truth, but apparently not - the new Official Narrative is 'trump is ru agent'
17:58 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510092 << this is an entirely novel idea...
17:58 a111 Logged on 2016-07-26 20:21 BingoBoingo: Because 'Murica. Every now and then a disgruntled customer is going to shit on the floor. That's how food service works.
17:59 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510108 << this is altogether not such a bad idea. if halon gotta pay hazmat to fly, fatass sure as fuck gotta pay hazmat to be in airport.
17:59 a111 Logged on 2016-07-26 20:31 asciilifeform: where can i donate to lobby for human fat to be assessed as fuel for purpose of fire code ?
18:01 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510113 << really, one does ~exactly what you do : keeps the fuck out of the way of neighbours and works on own pet projects.
18:01 a111 Logged on 2016-07-26 20:38 asciilifeform: and would be quite busy, e.g., buggering dead badgers to the tune of a banjo, or whatever it is that one does there.
18:03 mircea_popescu and wtf is with the "up to" menu. really, 400 dollars buys me "up to a steak" ? fuck that, how about his steak gets him UP TO 400 bucks, whatever i happen to have in my pocket.
18:03 mircea_popescu who the fuck came up with this idiocy already.
~ 22 minutes ~
18:25 mircea_popescu o btw, how's chandler guo doing ? shall we add yet another skull of an usg-astroturfed-miner to the collection ?
18:26 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo do you recall the meanwhile-forgotten name of the derp who was doing this "oh i am a miner hurr" posturing maybe 6 months or so ago ?
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18:30 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Toomim?
18:30 mircea_popescu there you go.
18:31 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> and wtf is with the "up to" menu. really, 400 dollars buys me "up to a steak" ? fuck that, how about his steak gets him UP TO 400 bucks, whatever i happen to have in my pocket. << German settlement can not prevent every UStard idiocy from intruding
18:31 mircea_popescu fucking hillary clinton, all of them. "very important" and a big deal and "informed" and bla bla for the five fucking minutes the show's on. just like any stripper cum tv anchor / us "corporation" etcetera.
18:37 BingoBoingo Meanwhile from the idiot panic chamber http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/shock-poll-nate-silvers-election-forecast-now-has-trump-winning
18:37 mircea_popescu doh.
18:39 BingoBoingo Anyways I guess that's the other thing from selecting a midwestern nowhere I forgot to offer asciilifeform, if it took the world wars to get the local paper to print in English the town is probably better than others.
18:39 mircea_popescu should be interesting to see if he actually scraps nato.
18:40 BingoBoingo Or kinda turns Nato into a subscription sorta deal.
18:40 mircea_popescu it's ~the only reasonable move for the us ; but on the other hand it'd make the dotcom bust look like frog's piss in comparison to the bath the globalist "modern democracy" imbeciles would take.
18:41 mircea_popescu 15% lol.
18:43 mircea_popescu http://news.alternet.org/files/screen_shot_2016-07-25_at_6.22.30_pm.png << the graph of ridiculous dreamer "hope". check that shit out, the idiots in the vats are actually saying the hillary electorare IS SLOW.
18:44 mircea_popescu you know, the low information voters and assorted clueless idiots take a week longer than the rednecks to form an opinion. hurr.
18:44 mircea_popescu why the fuck did they spend all that money on smartphones and college debt ; and all that time on social media then ?
18:46 BingoBoingo feels
18:47 BingoBoingo And Adipositivity
18:47 BingoBoingo And slow because "safe space"
18:48 mircea_popescu heh.
18:49 mircea_popescu anyway, the truth of the matter is that us citizens have no intellect or spine. a good third of the electorate just wants to vote with whoever's winning so as to then have voted for the winner. that's it.
18:50 mircea_popescu trump's having such a marked advantage so early, on top of a campaign entirely predicated on flattening everything and everyone (and implicitly "the man") draws that chunk of idiots in like shit draws flies.
18:50 mircea_popescu it's unfixable, by now.
18:51 BingoBoingo Basically the contrast is Trump tried to kill the GOP, suceeded. Hillary rode the DNC and happened to kill it in the process.
18:52 BingoBoingo Which is why if one owns a Ranch one must always include "no fat chicks" on their brand. Otherwise horses take quick trip to factory of glue
18:58 ben_vulpes never underestimate the pain of having to scrape a bumper sticker off your 2015 wrx
18:58 BingoBoingo https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1469151285987-0.jpg
18:58 BingoBoingo ^ like that ben_vulpes
19:01 ben_vulpes aaah
19:01 ben_vulpes ah
19:01 ben_vulpes the brainbleach where is it
19:01 ben_vulpes help
19:01 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: ffs man good oh fuck
19:01 * ben_vulpes flaps incoherently
19:16 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo crazy, i get a blocked page
19:17 mircea_popescu and a warning re broken certificate. apparently blocklist.rkn.gov.ru doesn't know how to do this right
19:18 mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/0Q6D90C << hijacked page.
19:29 asciilifeform Доступ к запрашиваемому ресурсу ограничен << lel
19:33 asciilifeform why was mircea_popescu connecting via ru ?
19:33 asciilifeform (linked item is 'great firewall of ru' fuckyou page)
19:40 mircea_popescu must be what happened to pop to surface.
19:42 asciilifeform what next, chinese proxy, lel
19:42 mircea_popescu sure.
19:44 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510186 << what i'd like to know is what became of that ~other~, quiet usg miner
19:44 a111 Logged on 2016-07-26 22:26 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you recall the meanwhile-forgotten name of the derp who was doing this "oh i am a miner hurr" posturing maybe 6 months or so ago ?
19:44 asciilifeform 'telco 214'
19:44 asciilifeform $s telco 214
19:44 a111 6 results for "telco 214", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=telco%20214
19:45 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-17#1203888
19:45 a111 Logged on 2015-07-17 01:50 asciilifeform: decimation: 'telco 214' is the owner of a single ip which houses, as far as i can tell, at least 2% of current net hash.
19:55 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2016/o-hey-is-it-november-yet/ << today is Pole Day.
20:07 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Well, involved unpleasant scraping.
20:09 mircea_popescu in other holy shit javascript, a.b where a, b are strings results in the STRING "undefined" ; whereas a.concat(b) results in a string that's a followed by b.
20:09 mircea_popescu really ? who thought this makes sense and how did they figure it ?
20:09 mircea_popescu 1+addition(5) = 6 ?
20:23 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-26#1510077 << that's the kind of stuff you see at those new retro places, like marivana
20:23 a111 Logged on 2016-07-26 20:05 asciilifeform: in other nyooz, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/smeg.jpg
20:27 mircea_popescu and in other breadboard news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2k7uiIYH41qdlisco1_500.gif
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21:32 deedbot [Trilema] My First Bitcoin, or How Do I Get Some Satoshi ? - http://trilema.com/2016/my-first-bitcoin-or-how-do-i-get-some-satoshi/
21:32 mircea_popescu ^ if anyone was looking for something to advertise.
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22:39 BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4uq9h7/are_bitcoin_users_at_coinbase_exposed_in_an/d5rv46r
22:44 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/4jmQD
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23:00 mircea_popescu $up lru
23:00 deedbot lru voiced for 30 minutes.
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23:19 lru a.b is asking for the 'b' property in the object a, which is undefined (the type, not the string), but since types can be automatically converted, and you're working with strings, the undefined type may have been turned into a string depending on use
23:20 lru a.b is the same as a['b'], since nearly everything in javascript is an object
23:20 BingoBoingo But how does this make baby?
23:21 lru the question was about "holy shit javascript" not "fucking javascript" :-)
23:21 mircea_popescu lru yeah. braindamaged fucking notation tho.
23:22 mircea_popescu btw, you got your pgp reg'd with deedbot ?
23:23 lru no... still mostly watching for now
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23:24 lru is there a way to extract help from the deedbot?
23:25 mircea_popescu anyway, i fucking hate the notion of "implicit object".
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23:25 mircea_popescu $help
23:25 deedbot http://deedbot.org/help.html
23:25 lru thanks
23:26 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-27#1510257 << always despised perl for this (among 1,001 other) reason
23:26 a111 Logged on 2016-07-27 03:25 mircea_popescu: anyway, i fucking hate the notion of "implicit object".
23:26 asciilifeform picture a pistol that shoots 'implicit object'.
23:27 asciilifeform (the marksman's head, but how is he to know)
23:31 mircea_popescu somehow the dot became so deeply "concat strings" that i'd first check "who the fuck is regexping this" perhaps ; but it'd never occur to me to say "you know what - it saw a dot it's now looking at a class"
23:31 mircea_popescu just, totally out of left field.
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