Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans
← 2016-07-21 | 2016-07-23 → ↓
00:00 mats acog was great for observation the few times I used it -- better for officers
00:03 mats never got to try an eotech, my unit wasn't high speed enough
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01:06 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> then he can be 'whole' << This actually is a thing. There is 0 lower bound to idiocy.
01:18 BingoBoingo https://i.sli.mg/v7bIi2.png << Do not allow near pdp-11
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02:26 BingoBoingo Phun Phact: The "Tree" that grew in Brooklyn was a monster https://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/fact/aial1.htm
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02:48 mats fwiw, i don't believe the radio in the iphone has dma
02:49 mats based on some teardowns it appears the ram is in package with main cpu
02:52 mats and based on wut an acquaintance is saying (my knowledge of hw is shallow), it'd be impractical to route the bus to the radio
02:52 mats spi would be the ticket
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06:21 deedbot [Qntra] "Crypto Coin Wallet Card" Physical Bitcoins Were A Scam - http://qntra.net/2016/07/crypto-coin-wallet-card-physical-bitcoins-were-a-scam/
06:26 thestringpuller ;;later tell http://ix.io/16ii
06:26 gribble (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
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06:26 thestringpuller ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/16ii
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06:26 gribble The operation succeeded.
06:29 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 137972329524511332350345179383063459057793945315652236507421970261693564137960901996512996894145017061621733082256131959567147919618864056303833940191201933702773123828501529555162679467570574922517240202085909763410593682514212885621835760530191733699371777165518298737890131320837158206796655415064708441863 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '94.141.150.121 (ssh-rsa key from 94.141.150.121 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for P
06:36 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: up, edited, ty
06:37 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 137972329524511332350345179383063459057793945315652236507421970261693564137960901996512996894145017061621733082256131959567147919618864056303833940191201933702773123828501529555162679467570574922517240202085909763410593682514212885621835760530191733699371777165518298737890131320837158206796655415064708441863 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '91.229.251.116 (ssh-rsa key from 91.229.251.116 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for P
06:37 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 137972329524511332350345179383063459057793945315652236507421970261693564137960901996512996894145017061621733082256131959567147919618864056303833940191201933702773123828501529555162679467570574922517240202085909763410593682514212885621835760530191733699371777165518298737890131320837158206796655415064708441863 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '94.141.150.121 (ssh-rsa key from 94.141.150.121 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for P
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06:37 deedbot [Qntra] Coinbase Embraces Ether As Venture Continues Running On Fumes - http://qntra.net/2016/07/coinbase-embraces-ether-as-venture-continues-running-on-fumes/
06:44 shinohai gm #trilema
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07:04 BingoBoingo morning
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07:07 deedbot [Qntra] Trendon Shavers Sentenced - http://qntra.net/2016/07/trendon-shavers-sentenced/
07:15 shinohai ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/16iR
07:15 gribble The operation succeeded.
07:22 BingoBoingo ty
07:23 shinohai o/
07:24 deedbot [Qntra] Seafile Cloud Storage Forks - http://qntra.net/2016/07/seafile-cloud-storage-forks/
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08:03 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
08:03 gribble Current Blocks: 421829 | Current Difficulty: 2.1349250110751337E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 423359 | Next Difficulty In: 1530 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 1 hour, 34 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
08:03 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
08:04 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 660.04, vol: 3042.50109346 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 653.301, vol: 3899.55499 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 661.0, vol: 10753.59667482 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 660.913106, vol: 88673.86230000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 660.236, vol: 959.85557494 | Volume-weighted last average: 660.614438891
08:16 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508507 << the problem with americans, by which we denote obscure people from the colonies with no history or identity of their own, is that if something becomes desirable they'll just copy it. "as best they can", "with locally sourced items". hence the mormon shredding of the hebrew texts and jordan pearson.
08:16 a111 Logged on 2016-07-21 23:11 phf: instead of investigating this mysterious zip, i spent time reading jordan pearson's twitter. he's special, he's like the worst parody of a 2016 American Nerd
08:17 mircea_popescu $up ghtdak
08:17 deedbot ghtdak voiced for 30 minutes.
08:17 mircea_popescu of course, it cuts both ways. some people like the indigent simplicity (see, eg, babbage).
08:18 mircea_popescu it all depends if there exists a superior power (france, england, etc) for them to copy or not.
08:18 mircea_popescu in a very important sense, "don't blame the parrots if the sermon's bad"
08:20 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508508 << how about it phf, see the merit of having a111 archive.is every link it sees, downloading the zip and then presenting a [cached] [saved] pair of links after the line ?
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08:20 a111 Logged on 2016-07-21 23:13 phf: http://motherboard-images.vice.com/authors/no-id/1459351347926622.jpg
08:22 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508513 << the very wooden acting kinda ruins it for me. why can't these people just you know, write their story ? gotta do it for camera, but that's hard and they have no camera faces nor acting talent.
08:22 a111 Logged on 2016-07-21 23:14 ben_vulpes: which features a character mircea_popescu may find amusing, the slut with an entire rural town wrapped around her finger
08:22 mircea_popescu there's this misperception that "people wouldn't read, they prefer to watch video". it's a misperception for many reasons, but obvious here : those people AREN'T WATCHING VIDEO, EITHER.
08:23 mircea_popescu yes they show a marked preference to drooling in front of flickering monitor than empty book. but this is like saying cats prefer the christian science monitor over the new yorker. to what, to piss on ?
08:24 mircea_popescu if ye got a story to tell and ye can't draw, don't make a "stick figure cartoon", write it. if ye got a story to tell and ye can't act, don't make a youtube of it. WRITE IT.
08:24 mircea_popescu fcking basic literacy vs all the ustardians hellbent on being so fucking emospecial they need "symbols" and other illiterate obscura to "express themselves".
08:25 mircea_popescu guess what - whenever the problem of expression seems to be resolvable by chucking the alphabet, the problem's not of expression.
08:29 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508521 << i don't. "copyright dec blabla 1970" ruins it for me.
08:29 a111 Logged on 2016-07-22 00:56 asciilifeform: i wish to move to the planet where ~that~ : https://i.sli.mg/ikoT6o.jpg is how one is introduced to 'the computer'
08:30 thestringpuller Oh God. I can't stop the huffing.
08:30 thestringpuller I told someone this mornign as they walked in "Do not huff any ether no matter how compelling"
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08:31 thestringpuller Coworker is like "Are these cheap like when bitcoin was cheap? How much are these ether tokens?" Me: "I just said not to huff the ether!!!!!"
08:32 mircea_popescu apparently they take what you say as an inverses signal.
08:33 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508541 << the dma thing is mostly a sufferance of the desktop designs yea
08:33 a111 Logged on 2016-07-22 06:48 mats: fwiw, i don't believe the radio in the iphone has dma
08:33 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo "it will be forking it's code"
08:35 mircea_popescu also paging shinohai. repeat after me, you! "it's raining, it's entertaining, its butt's lost retaining".
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08:36 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508583 << the sov version had no such
08:36 a111 Logged on 2016-07-22 12:29 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508521 << i don't. "copyright dec blabla 1970" ruins it for me.
08:37 asciilifeform srsly focusing on the dust spec on the pr0n gurl
08:37 mircea_popescu it's what i do/did.
08:37 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508589 << this is false, ~all recent embedded boxes also have it. esp.
08:37 a111 Logged on 2016-07-22 12:33 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508541 << the dma thing is mostly a sufferance of the desktop designs yea
08:38 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508544 << mno. spi tops out at 1-2MB/s.
08:38 a111 Logged on 2016-07-22 06:52 mats: spi would be the ticket
08:38 * mircea_popescu remembers this epic one time when dude filmed half a set with a cum dribble on his lens.
08:38 asciilifeform lel
08:38 mircea_popescu wtf is that you moron!
08:38 mircea_popescu that's...uh.... mmmm....
08:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you think the iphone yet exists that has 1mb worth of data anyone'd care to exfiltrate ?!
08:39 shinohai lulzy mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2016/07/seafile-cloud-storage-forks/#comment-64913
08:39 mircea_popescu or what, they're importing 800mb of gui for the rootkit ?
08:39 thestringpuller $s why is dma bad
08:39 a111 1 results for "why is dma bad", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=why%20is%20dma%20bad
08:39 mircea_popescu shinohai :[
08:39 mircea_popescu :p i mean
08:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: thread was about how the radio is connected to cpu.
08:40 asciilifeform it is not difficult to infer how it is NOT connected, because you can pick up the device and measure top bandwidth quite easily with bare hands
08:40 mircea_popescu yes. but for the purpose of owning it no ?
08:40 asciilifeform for the purpose of ~how is it connected??~
08:40 mircea_popescu aok.
08:40 mircea_popescu i thought the idea was someone will hack into your thing via radio.
08:40 asciilifeform (which in turn is interesting because ~is it on the same bus as other periphs~)
08:41 asciilifeform e.g., what privileges does the radio have, to put in software parlance
08:41 asciilifeform what can you do to the rest of the box from it
08:42 asciilifeform ;;later tell trinque what happened here ? http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508550 <<>> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508553 ? this is not the first time, either. i checked my rss feed, it does not shit out dupes.
08:42 a111 Logged on 2016-07-22 10:37 deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 137972329524511332350345179383063459057793945315652236507421970261693564137960901996512996894145017061621733082256131959567147919618864056303833940191201933702773123828501529555162679467570574922517240202085909763410593682514212885621835760530191733699371777165518298737890131320837158206796655415064708441863 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '94.141.150.121 (ssh-rsa key from 94.141.15
08:42 a111 Logged on 2016-07-22 10:29 deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 137972329524511332350345179383063459057793945315652236507421970261693564137960901996512996894145017061621733082256131959567147919618864056303833940191201933702773123828501529555162679467570574922517240202085909763410593682514212885621835760530191733699371777165518298737890131320837158206796655415064708441863 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '94.141.150.121 (ssh-rsa key from 94.141.15
08:42 gribble The operation succeeded.
08:42 asciilifeform incidentally this is the first, iirc, long factor sshkey collision to pop.
08:43 asciilifeform 91.229.251.116 and 94.141.150.121
08:43 mircea_popescu what, the others were short ?
08:43 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo "it will be forking it's code" << fxd
08:43 mircea_popescu ty.
08:43 asciilifeform 'University of Technology and Agriculture in Bydgoszcz'
08:43 asciilifeform poland.
08:44 asciilifeform jesce polska nie zginela!
08:44 mircea_popescu lol.
08:44 mircea_popescu someone plox write the fellows a nice email, explain what happened and ask them to send a copy of the item that generated keys ?
08:44 asciilifeform sounds like a job for mircea_popescu ?
08:45 asciilifeform (to date, nobody answered when asciilifeform wrote. perhaps he lives under a curse)
08:45 mircea_popescu why for me! so we keep having these "how do build dirigible" threads weekly, while we patently ignore what the fellow who built the trope name has to say about the process ?
08:45 asciilifeform only so that possibly somebody answers this time!11
08:46 mircea_popescu we don't give a shit if they do or don't.
08:46 asciilifeform then why bother ?
08:46 mircea_popescu we're here to develop the tmsr human resources, not to get some derps not in wot to eat their fucking peas.
08:47 mircea_popescu how do you say parusski "ridicarea continua a nivelului politic si ideologic" ?
08:48 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re earlier, these factors are 1024 bt long. the longest ssh popped prior, had 512b-long factor.
08:48 mircea_popescu obv if i fucking google it, trilema is like the only source. motherfucker already. here. http://trilema.com/2011/propuneri-de-masuri-pentru-imbunatațirea-activitații-politico-ideologice-de-educare-marxist-leninista-a-membrilor-de-partid-a-tuturor-oamenilor-muncii-comentate/
08:48 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ah ok.
08:53 asciilifeform ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508545 << i suggest link to the thread ? or if somebody ( mircea_popescu ? ) ever had an article-length exposition of subj -- to that.
08:53 a111 Logged on 2016-07-22 10:21 deedbot: [Qntra] "Crypto Coin Wallet Card" Physical Bitcoins Were A Scam - http://qntra.net/2016/07/crypto-coin-wallet-card-physical-bitcoins-were-a-scam/
08:53 gribble The operation succeeded.
08:53 asciilifeform but afaik it was ever in just that one thread. here.
08:54 asciilifeform ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-06#1498063 << thread.
08:54 a111 Logged on 2016-07-06 15:04 asciilifeform: i dun care if it is made of gold, shitanium, hitler's skull, etc.; my take on folks selling envelopes which may or may not contain a funded privkey, and may or may not contain the ONLY extant copy thereof, remains same.
08:54 gribble The operation succeeded.
08:54 mircea_popescu myeah.
08:56 thestringpuller asciilifeform: i was thinking of that exact thread when i read the news. prophetic huh?
08:57 mircea_popescu now i'm reading source material of ro 1960s censorship ("raport de analiza muncii", 3rd/4th q, 1961). guess what ? all the censors are women. andreescu elena, miroiu, takacs margareta (they had hungarians to read the hu stuff lol), "vas a. & pop c.", etc etc. fucking dozen+, all womens.
08:57 mircea_popescu how the fyuck does this work.
08:57 asciilifeform thestringpuller: 'who could have foreseen!'
08:57 asciilifeform but srsly i wonder if there is ANY discussion of 'the fella who generated the keys may have copies and you will NEVER prove the contrary' in, e.g., tardstalk, wherever.
08:57 asciilifeform any of the places this crapolade was pushed.
08:58 mircea_popescu well they speak a different language.
08:58 asciilifeform waiwut
09:04 asciilifeform 'Either that company was running a scam (and I do not actually accuse them of that) or they were retaining backup copies of the private keys they generated (which they never should have done) and they were stolen by either a hacker or an employee.'
09:04 asciilifeform lulzy.
09:04 asciilifeform 'i opened the money-promise box and it had 0, but i do not accuse the vendor of scam'
09:04 asciilifeform dafuq.
09:06 asciilifeform 'physical btc' is one of those items that is FRACTALLY a bad idea. with disaster waiting at EVERY possible junction.
09:07 asciilifeform leeeeet's pass a box with privkey around, round, round, and pray that nobody peeks in
09:07 mircea_popescu dawg. you're seriously spending your time sifting through tardstalk to support a minor point of dubiously more value than the cost of a log line ?
09:07 asciilifeform i followed the qntra link, that's it.
09:07 mircea_popescu a) hire a girl to do this. pay minimum wage, see how much you actually care to do it ; b) built a pdp already, or what was it you were building ?
09:08 asciilifeform already maxed dosimeter.
09:08 * asciilifeform wonders if 'physical btc' is largely a stale and dead scam, or still lively somewhere.
09:08 mircea_popescu no such thing as a stale scam.
09:08 asciilifeform point.
09:09 mircea_popescu since the birth of the city, they've only had maybe 3 or 4 scams altogether.
09:09 asciilifeform fiatola was printed in china before euro folk climbed down from the trees, or what it was.
~ 42 minutes ~
09:51 asciilifeform so, via this heathen pit, http://www.whoismcafee.com/the-travel-guide : 'Dr. McAfee, I have spent the past thirty years perfecting an unbreakable encryption algorithm. My algorithm is not just unbreakable for all practical purposes it is theoretically unbreakable. The advent of quantum computers will not change this. The mathematics confirming my claim is indisputable. You no doubt have sufficient knowledge of mathematics and program
09:51 asciilifeform ming to understand my design. I will be happy to send you a copy of my patent application so you can evaluate the veracity of my claims if you will sign a notarized non-disclosure agreement.'
09:52 asciilifeform this kind of circus is one of the thing i miss about usenet
09:52 asciilifeform sci.crypt crackpots were every bit as entertaining as the sci.physics ones
09:54 mircea_popescu ahahaha who the fuck figures mcafee no doubt has a clue of maths ?
09:54 asciilifeform 'unbreakable cryptographers!' clearly
09:54 asciilifeform who else.
09:56 mircea_popescu me finds http://www.infobae.com/2015/12/05/1774628-el-gran-mito-que-la-argentina-es-un-pais-rico/ where his quote re plowing fly is given as "unknown author", writes to the bulat derp to point out the author's known, since ~1850 or so. guess what happens next ?
09:57 asciilifeform absolutely nothing ?
09:58 mircea_popescu nah, host aspmx.l.google.com [173.194.222.27] SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<tbulat@infobae.com>: 552-5.2.2 The email account that you tried to reach is over quota.
09:58 mircea_popescu the idiots use google mail ; who said google mail has infinite space ?
09:58 asciilifeform holy fuq
09:59 asciilifeform current quote for free accts is... ~15GB
09:59 mircea_popescu this incidentally is so fucking typical of this shithole it bleeds. they have THE MARKINGS of everything. if you don't look too closely, tomas bulat seems just like an ordinary derp ; has an email and a picture and everything.
09:59 mircea_popescu but he ISNT one. he's an orc masquerading as one, and at the first touch the masquerade crumbles.
09:59 asciilifeform what's the diff b/w 'ordinary derp' and orc
10:00 mircea_popescu same thing, throughout. buenos aires has a night life, god help you if you try to go out. it has shops, god help you if you try to you know, find the most common industrial product in deployment over the whole country (ie, the heating element from http://trilema.com/2016/cargo-cults-a-case-study/ )
10:00 asciilifeform the 'human' can afford real leather 'business planner' through no fault of his own, just because the money pipe going through ~his~ back yard drips moar than the orc's
10:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ordinary derp has ipad ; orc has paper cutout painted like ipad.
10:00 asciilifeform the egyptian from mircea_popescu's article - stuck with faux leather
10:00 asciilifeform ah yes.
10:00 asciilifeform both really belong with a mud brick shaped like ipad
10:01 asciilifeform but one savage found a geologist's flashlight in the woods, and the other - not
10:01 mircea_popescu quite so.
10:04 asciilifeform 'Each Google Apps for Work user can store up to 30 GB of content for free (compared to 15 GB with Google Apps free edition or individual consumer accounts). This storage is shared between Gmail, Google Drive, and Google Photos. If you’re approaching the limit or if you've run out of storage, you can purchase additional storage or reduce your storage usage.'
10:05 asciilifeform fella prolly overfilled his pr0n box.
10:05 mircea_popescu and i presume it filters spam to some degree. hopefuly to such degree that an account last used dec 2015 isn't overrun by 30gb worth of spam in 6 months.
10:05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: experimentally, they aren't.
10:05 asciilifeform ( recall why folks end up on gmail to begin with )
10:06 asciilifeform gmail is a very characteristically american chumpatron - 'we will fart and fart and encourage others, and then sell you bottle of clean air'
10:07 mircea_popescu moreover, if it were "derp overfilled his pronbox", you'd expect this problem to resolve over time. i'll bet you whatever it will not.
10:07 asciilifeform well if abandoned it will never be cleaned, neh ?
10:07 mircea_popescu so, so reminescent of "eudemocracia.org" ie http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-in-argentina-exactly-nothing-to-do-with-the-derps/#selection-197.0-197.39
10:07 asciilifeform (until garbage collected)
10:07 deedbot [Trilema] Views through a lens - http://trilema.com/2016/views-through-a-lens/
10:08 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's not even abandoned. it's "abandoned", in the sense your pet cat "has abandoned" its copy of the master and marguerita.
10:08 mircea_popescu hurr durr, wasn't its thing to abandon in the first place.
10:08 mircea_popescu meanwhile i bought "industria argentina" male underwear which, while spoiling the same amount of cotton as a normal pair ; nevertheless HAS NO RUBBER BAND.
10:09 asciilifeform holy fuq, is that a bismarck's cross on the anvil ?!
10:09 mircea_popescu i have never before seen such nonsense, not even in the depths of romanian 80s poverty, where they actually have unyielding band for the underwear omfg.
10:09 mircea_popescu went straight into bin, where i'd like to put this population wholesale.
10:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform aha.
10:09 mod6 that would drive me crazy.
10:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: where was the anvil ?
10:10 mircea_popescu PAPER GOODS shop.
10:10 shinohai http://archive.is/4mmml <<< the new generation of burner phones!
10:12 asciilifeform shinohai: lulzy. see the electric meters in arizona thread from a while back, for similar item.
10:12 asciilifeform i can't wait for pay-as-you-go water and sewer.
10:12 asciilifeform and pay toilets where you gotta put in credit card for a set of shutters in the toilet to open.
10:13 shinohai i remember pay stalls in some areas of nyc
10:13 shinohai 25 cents to open stall door
10:13 asciilifeform that's old hat
10:13 asciilifeform gotta EVOLVE!1111
10:13 asciilifeform to next level.
10:13 shinohai bitcoin qr on stall door.
10:13 asciilifeform shutters, i tell ya.
10:13 phf 1btc enter, 2btc leave
10:14 asciilifeform the only notch to go to after that will be chastity belt that physically prevents bladder from emptying until paid.
10:15 asciilifeform ;;google Вход рубль, выход — два
10:15 gribble Error: We broke The Google!
10:15 asciilifeform $google Вход рубль, выход — два
10:15 * deedbot hands you a broomstick.
10:15 asciilifeform eh.
10:16 shinohai $google Вход рубль, выход — два
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10:16 shinohai Психология (1 more message)
10:16 shinohai 10:14 +shinohai $more
10:16 shinohai 10:14 @TRS80` shinohai: и бизнес - RIN.ru: <http://business.rin.ru/cgi-bin/search.pl%3Faction%3Dview%26num%3D341688%26razdel%3D25%26w%3D0>
10:16 asciilifeform hm
10:16 asciilifeform why the space ?
10:16 shinohai i copied from another buffer
10:17 asciilifeform yes but why did it fire this time, and not before
10:17 asciilifeform or what happened here
10:17 shinohai ^ that was results from my gribbletron
10:17 asciilifeform ah
10:23 asciilifeform re 'pay as you go', the favoured variant appears to be http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-25#1285945 - flavoured.
10:23 a111 Logged on 2015-09-25 23:24 punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPsb_D2WoAAse4i.jpg:large
10:27 asciilifeform obligatory oldie: http://wearcam.org/seatsale
10:28 asciilifeform http://wearcam.org/seatsale/patent << pure gold. e.g., 'Fig. 4 illustrates the back door of a free dwelling or a low cost housing project, where the door has a magnetic safety lock for preventing children from accidentally running out into the backyard and being killed or injured by land mines that have not yet been de-activated by sliding a credit card into the door frame to purchase yard privileges.'
10:30 asciilifeform 'FIG. 4 provides the solution to the problem of homelessness by providing free housing or low cost housing to anyone who wants it. Free houses are given away or loaned subject to certain Terms and Conditions. For example, the houses have surveillance and safety systems built in, and the Terms and Conditions include not tampering with these devices. Homeless persons can trade their privacy and autonomy for housing in which they become
10:30 asciilifeform experimental subjects of various monitoring devices, or in which they view advertisements in their houses, or agree to consume only certain products, or to abide by brand loyalties. Additionally, these homes may be provided with certain safety features, such as a magnetic lock 490 that prevents occupants from leaving the home without meeting certain conditions, such as safety and sobriety.'
10:30 asciilifeform one of the best tr0l0l0lz i've seen in eons. whole thing recommended.
10:34 shinohai ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://imgur.com/a/VSdan
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10:34 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:35 BingoBoingo shinohai: Pretty sure that's a dupe
10:36 shinohai searched for "morning ass"
10:36 * shinohai *shudders*
10:39 BingoBoingo lol
10:40 BingoBoingo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFzt1AdCQAEYZ1h.jpg:large
10:40 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu asciilifeform link added
10:44 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: neato.
10:45 BingoBoingo https://reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4tzjxr/why_does_the_dao_contract_have_38434_eth_in_it/?st=iqx42fo1&sh=857d0b96
10:45 BingoBoingo ^ Gasmasks on
10:52 mircea_popescu lmao so comcast is finally installing cable.
10:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: whaddayamean? comcast is one of the regional cable monopolies in usa.
10:53 asciilifeform has been, for ages.
10:54 mircea_popescu yes. and the deal described (~80 one time to install including the ~30 bux monthly fee + further 30 day reloads whenever you feel like and no contract or "credit checks" is how cable fucking works. it's what was installed in Romania starting 1993.
10:54 mircea_popescu i have nfi what they did prior. but if not this - not a cable company. sorry.
10:54 asciilifeform what they did prior was almost this.
10:54 mircea_popescu so prior tyhey were almost cable company.
10:54 asciilifeform except, for reasons unknown to me, they would extend the customer 30 days of credit (he'd get service then get 1st bill 30d later.)
10:55 asciilifeform ditto telco. etc
10:55 asciilifeform now that i think about it, the reason was obvious - get him to cough up dough for extras
10:55 asciilifeform ('pay per view', etc)
10:55 asciilifeform whereas now chumper will have to pre-load the acct.
10:56 mircea_popescu the usg.corp bakes in usg.credit much like tmsr.everything bakes in tmsr.wot and for the same exact, purely political, reasons.
10:56 asciilifeform american mobile telcos have, by and large, already switched to the prepaid model.
10:56 mircea_popescu they don't want a world with us in it just like we don't want a world with them in it.
10:56 mircea_popescu well yes, because we're winning the war of worlds, but anyway.
10:57 asciilifeform i suspect that the logic was purely practical - the customers are no longer, by and large, creditworthy.
10:58 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508757 << mp\s ancient idea, "have housing free for 20yo female students provided they never dress indoors". it made a decent penny.
10:58 a111 Logged on 2016-07-22 14:30 asciilifeform: 'FIG. 4 provides the solution to the problem of homelessness by providing free housing or low cost housing to anyone who wants it. Free houses are given away or loaned subject to certain Terms and Conditions. For example, the houses have surveillance and safety systems built in, and the Terms and Conditions include not tampering with these devices. Homeless persons can trade their privacy and autonomy for hou
10:58 mircea_popescu then it got mainstreamized into "reality tv" or someshit, a whole franchise.
10:59 asciilifeform sounds like some seriously overpriced naked chix pix
10:59 asciilifeform (even if locale with very low rents)
10:59 mircea_popescu at the time (mid 90s, ro) it wasn't in any sense overpriced.
10:59 asciilifeform what did it cost to house 1 specimen ?
11:00 mircea_popescu bout a hundred per head. you don't house them solo.
11:00 asciilifeform well yes
11:00 mircea_popescu you house them in conditions slightly better than they house themselves, which is 6 heads to the 3room apt.
11:00 asciilifeform hundred what? usd ?
11:00 mircea_popescu myeah. under that, really. food included.
11:00 asciilifeform i wouldn't pay 100 usd/mo for pictures of chick
11:01 mircea_popescu well you wouldn't do all sorts of things, principally because and since you'rfe not in the business of doing them.
11:01 mircea_popescu i have nfi why you'd pay, for, eg, cnc mill. but whatevs.
11:01 asciilifeform i can only assume that mircea_popescu found someone who will pay 100+epsilon for it.
11:02 mircea_popescu at the time sets cost ~2k per model.
11:02 mircea_popescu sets you understand, ~hour-and-half.
11:02 asciilifeform i never understood what was so great about professionally-produced pr0nz.
11:03 * asciilifeform philistine.
11:03 mircea_popescu that freerange female is ~idiot.
11:03 asciilifeform does she need to be brilliant to display her bits ?
11:04 mircea_popescu people who have contact with a lot of them break through the "o, she's an idiot, how endearing" phase of single-mating-male and become deeply irritated by even a faint hint of the well described idiocies. think of it much like how immune cascade/anaphilactic shock works.
11:04 * asciilifeform can picture it.
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11:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes. see http://trilema.com/2011/oricine-poate-sa/
11:05 mircea_popescu showing off is more of a skill than being a feminism professor. it takes more work, and it is a more respectable accomplishment.
11:06 mircea_popescu point in case : http://67.media.tumblr.com/6b3c86cf8995a714a1271f8a05d0f330/tumblr_nldoi2Hklx1uox454o1_500.gif << she, and ANY OTHER ONE LIKE HER, could blather endlessly about nonsense, just as well quality wise as ANY us female professor of nonsense. nevertheless, NO us female professor of nonsense could do that scene. maybe if she can afford to pay me a million to train her for eighteen weeks. but even then it's dubious.
11:06 mircea_popescu for which reason, whore > "career woman".
11:07 shinohai lol i am just now seeing where someone sent 38k ETH to the dao
11:07 asciilifeform i suppose i'm roughly in the position of the quasi-deaf artillerist who goes to a mozart concerto.
11:07 mircea_popescu now, i never understood the appeal of dressing cows in "business suits" and pretending like they're speaking when they moo. but then again i'm not in the business of running the us empire of pretense.
11:07 asciilifeform i dun even grasp the appeal of pr0n with cocks in it.
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11:07 asciilifeform it is insta-turnoff.
11:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform adding that to your anal illustrative inclination, i get the idea maybe you should try it!
11:07 asciilifeform try which ?
11:08 mircea_popescu try homo.
11:08 asciilifeform it just doesn't appeal. can't help it.
11:08 mircea_popescu okthen.
11:08 asciilifeform i will try it shortly after i dine on broken glass, nuts, bolts.
11:10 mircea_popescu but all this aside, the "reality tv" put a half dozen 20yos in a house and film the drama bs made a billion easy.
11:10 mircea_popescu when you're dealing with welfare state consumers, money's both weird and easy.
11:12 mircea_popescu $google bridalplasty
11:12 deedbot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridalplasty << Bridalplasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gR2s6G_-3c << Bridalplasty Episode 1 (Part 1/4) - YouTube | http://www.ew.com/article/2010/11/28/bridalplasty-series-premiere-recap << 'Bridalplasty': 15 Things That Made Me Die Inside | EW.com
11:12 mircea_popescu srsly, they had this. "womenz compete to win wedding and plastic surgery"
11:12 mircea_popescu $up Sinclair6
11:12 deedbot Sinclair6 voiced for 30 minutes.
11:14 Sinclair6 hi sir!
11:14 mircea_popescu hola
11:15 Sinclair6 just in the process of booting up my systems after a thunder and lighting storm
11:15 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508808 << if you don't like scylla, you can always go die from charybdis - bite the bullet and only fuck the maths dept chix, even though their makeup is wrong etc.
11:15 a111 Logged on 2016-07-22 15:03 mircea_popescu: that freerange female is ~idiot.
11:15 mircea_popescu i'd rather fuck dudes.
11:16 asciilifeform hey it worx for jurov
11:16 mircea_popescu i thought he didn't like it ; worked about as well as any os he ever used, any software package ; any box of breakfast cereal etc.
11:17 asciilifeform lel
11:17 mircea_popescu ftr, there's a tv franchise called "sit down, shut up". it never caught on.
11:31 shinohai https://twitter.com/el33th4xor/status/756509426375352320 <<< butterin looks like he needs to get back to his coffin before sunrise in this photo.
11:42 asciilifeform in other 'news', let's a quick experiment: https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/4u3car/we_scan_whole_ipv4_space_and_publicly_break_weak << does the unhappenatron still have unhappenatronium fuel rods left ? or not.
11:45 asciilifeform dropped it also in the other major heathen pit, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12144168 .
11:47 mircea_popescu would have worked better as blog post, but gl.
11:47 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if nothing else, good test of my cachetronics.
11:47 asciilifeform nice burst of traffic.
11:56 asciilifeform ok mircea_popescu this is precious, i cannot resist:
11:56 asciilifeform 134.223.116.158 - - [22/Jul/2016:15:54:57 +0000] "GET /gpgkey/50840391E5677882196999C9AE77F3177E6CBF8D35FB4F1FEF848CFADF9088B1 HTTP/1.1" 200 3425 "http://134.223.116.149:15871/cgi-bin/blockpage.cgi?ws-session=2010817170"
11:56 asciilifeform ^ Northrop Grumman Co.
11:56 asciilifeform (ip)
11:56 mircea_popescu blog article already.
11:57 mircea_popescu you're dicking around on tardstalk etc anyway, might as fucking well sit down and write something that'll be useful later.
11:57 asciilifeform there is almost enough material for article just in above.
11:57 mircea_popescu quite.
11:57 asciilifeform now granted i cannot prove that 'blockpage.cgi' is their censorware monkey's panel...
11:57 asciilifeform but whatever.
11:59 asciilifeform http://www.websense.com/support/article/kbarticle/How-Can-I-Get-More-Information-About-My-Policy-From-the-Block-Page << done.
11:59 asciilifeform 'websense' filter.
11:59 asciilifeform so - yes - it was.
11:59 asciilifeform 'For custom block pages where the more information link is not available, edit the URL in the address bar to access the hidden view source information. For example, you will see an URL similar to the following for all your custom block pages. http://<ipaddress>:15871/cgi-bin/blockpage.cgi?ws-session=687865868 '
12:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ever grep own logs for 'blockpage.cgi' ? might be good for a cheap lul.
12:02 asciilifeform 'Banned In 66 Countries!1111'
12:09 mircea_popescu cat 'trilema.com-Jun-2016' | grep -c "blockpage.cgi" \ 0 \ wc -l /trilema.com-Jun-2016 \ 8739195 /trilema.com-Jun-2016
12:09 mircea_popescu mno.
12:09 asciilifeform oh well.
12:13 mircea_popescu traffics!
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12:33 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: here ya go : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1662
12:35 mircea_popescu ;;later tell gabriel_radio http://trilema.com/2011/imi-cer-scuze-dar-mi-am-uitat/ there you go, try that :D
12:35 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:35 deedbot [Loper OS] Tears of the Phucked. - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1662
12:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform not a bad start!
12:37 asciilifeform i have no doubt that mircea_popescu , if he were inclined, could have written a whole b00k about said item. but all i had was this.
12:37 mircea_popescu gotta start ; then gotta keep going. through which process one achieves the bookwriting.
12:39 mod6 asciilifeform: lol nice
12:44 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'reject: low quality' (reddit) -- win.
12:44 asciilifeform took less than 1 hour.
12:45 asciilifeform perhaps if it had a lolcat ! or concerned the snorting of ethertardium !
12:45 asciilifeform or Relevant and Evolving!!!11
12:47 mircea_popescu well, alternatively could have had article explaining things rather than just bareback link to data
12:47 mircea_popescu think of the consumer like it were a woman - you don't just go plug her, right ?
12:48 asciilifeform there is a faq
12:48 asciilifeform how many times does one write same explanation ?
12:49 asciilifeform i can't speak for others, but if in 2012 someone had shown me a suspected cracking of rsa key in the wild, i would have squeezed stones until i learned how it was done
12:49 deedbot [Trilema] Petty private satisfactions - http://trilema.com/2016/petty-private-satisfactions/
12:50 asciilifeform even if there were no convenient explanation served on a silver plate.
12:51 mircea_popescu well yes, but that's you not reddit.
12:51 asciilifeform it's ~people~
12:51 asciilifeform but then there are also livestock, apparently.
12:51 asciilifeform with net connections.
12:53 mircea_popescu soberania!
13:01 deedbot [Daniel P. Barron] It’s somewhat clunky - http://danielpbarron.com/2016/its-somewhat-clunky/
13:03 asciilifeform lel seems like danielpbarron's pig did not enjoy the fucking any more than mine
13:03 asciilifeform grunted, sprayed mud, shit.
13:04 danielpbarron lol
13:06 mircea_popescu ahgahaha seriously, they want 2kb keys ?
13:07 * asciilifeform stuck with a 2kb for eons now
13:09 asciilifeform when generating it, i had the figure cached in head from 1990s, '2048, slow but strong!111'
13:09 mircea_popescu hehe
13:09 mircea_popescu anywya. not teh end of the world.
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13:36 mircea_popescu ;;later tell gabrielradio sau vezi si pe la diana daca te tin curelele : http://www.dianacoman.com/blog/2011/09/29/curbarea-sursei-trilematice/
13:36 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:41 mircea_popescu this may be the best thing written in that language that year ; and possibly the hardest thing to translate from trilema. notwithstanding that it's not even found there.
13:56 mircea_popescu and in other ornithological references for shinohai , http://67.media.tumblr.com/7fe98f72db7911383ba81b3ddf863e7b/tumblr_nhg4rorKGe1s0h0cio1_400.gif
13:58 shinohai O.o
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14:17 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: "sorry fork, your loss" << actually had me lollin
~ 20 minutes ~
14:37 ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmlilIwUPXU << world's greatest army's procurement pipeline in action
~ 1 hours 6 minutes ~
15:43 mircea_popescu in other news, peeled bitter orange (proper peeled, everything off, harem style) in an old fashioned glass, covered with vermouth.
15:44 mircea_popescu aa would hit again.
15:51 shinohai nice i just got in, broke down and bough some muscadine wine for tonite xD
15:54 thestringpuller shinohai: you ever hear of raging burrito?
16:03 shinohai yeah
16:03 shinohai u there?
~ 2 hours 2 minutes ~
18:05 deedbot [Trilema] Bucuresti Non Stop - http://trilema.com/2016/bucuresti-non-stop/
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19:29 mircea_popescu $up from heh
19:29 deedbot from voiced for 30 minutes.
19:29 mircea_popescu how the fuck do they do it, it's like the luser is wired, genetically predisposed to luserdom.
19:33 BingoBoingo <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: "sorry fork, your loss" << actually had me lollin << ty. shinohai's piece muh edit
19:36 BingoBoingo $up Sinclair6
19:36 deedbot Sinclair6 voiced for 30 minutes.
19:37 BingoBoingo Anyways the greatest lulz of the etherum fork business is that really it seems like they softforked theft, not hardforked
19:38 BingoBoingo theft of course referring to the forking which was a theft from legitimate DAO contract DAO'er
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19:38 BingoBoingo *DOA'er
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20:25 mircea_popescu https://archive.is/BrVvd << teh "vc" derps found their sty and are self-reportedly happy.
20:28 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508921 <<< miami lawyer guy may show up in chat in the morning to poke
20:28 a111 Logged on 2016-07-22 23:38 BingoBoingo: theft of course referring to the forking which was a theft from legitimate DAO contract DAO'er
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21:46 mircea_popescu in other "vc powered securitits" lulz : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJVwSrzOUlE wants you to sign into shittle to "confirm your age". https://www.youtube.com/v/yJVwSrzOUlE does not.
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22:21 mod6 1`120 of s.mg traded
22:21 mod6 i miss the ticker
22:21 mircea_popescu prolly should put it back in huh
22:21 mod6 maybe i'll make a new one?
22:22 mircea_popescu sure.
22:22 mircea_popescu you still have the bitotter thing ?
22:22 mod6 i've got a few irons in the fire currently... but let's revisit this in a week or two after I get some more work done with the build stuff.
22:22 mircea_popescu sure.
22:22 mod6 yeah, bitotter stuff is still laying around.
22:23 mod6 btw, this is awesome: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/views-through-a-lens-1.jpg
22:24 mircea_popescu in other news, did bitgo just suffer a breach ?
22:31 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508816 << only now it dawns on me you prolly meant the fingretrapped chick ? how the fuck are you going to judge her performance without the cock stuffing ? it's like proposing to buy a car in a closed bag wtf. you do go for drive tests neh ? same thing here, the fucking point is that random derp can't fingertrap worth a shit.
22:31 a111 Logged on 2016-07-22 15:07 asciilifeform: i dun even grasp the appeal of pr0n with cocks in it.
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