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00:04 pete_dushenski an hero is meeeee. (sql update on contravex is comprete).
00:05 pete_dushenski you guys are cool :)
00:20 trinque excellent article BingoBoingo
00:20 BingoBoingo ty trinque
00:23 trinque watching the "love will overcome" rhetoric flow in reaction to this, it boggles that gays are literally spouting christianity.
00:24 trinque the inclusive mind is a schizoid mind.
00:25 BingoBoingo Also the American right was half right. Sanctity of marrirage attacked, BUT from the legal side.
00:25 * BingoBoingo thinks danielpbarron may appreciate latest qntra.
00:26 trinque the govt must be able to break any rules if it means "just one person" (TM) (R) avoids discomfort
00:27 BingoBoingo lol
00:42 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all --currency brides
00:42 gribble Error: 'brides' is not a valid currency code.
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04:39 thestringpuller ;;later tell mod6 node is still stuck even after restart. it's wedged at 414073
04:39 gribble The operation succeeded.
04:39 thestringpuller http://dpaste.com/1CJEY3T.txt ^^
~ 5 hours 52 minutes ~
10:32 shinohai http://europe.newsweek.com/isis-twitter-accounts-gay-porn-orlando-attacks-anonymous-470300?rm=eu <<<heh
10:42 shinohai http://www.coindesk.com/mcafee-security-blockchain-advisory-board/ <<oh boy
~ 24 minutes ~
11:07 asciilifeform 'McAfee was appointed as chairman and CEO of MGT Capital in May, causing a brief 1,000% surge in the publicly traded company’s stocks. Formerly a fantasy sports enterprise, the firm is in the process of being rebranded as John McAfee Global Technologies, Inc following McAfee's addition to the team.' << wat.
11:07 asciilifeform in other idiocies,
11:08 asciilifeform 'On Friday, Secretary Penny Pritzker of the US Department of Commerce joined special assistant to the president for economic policy Adrienne Harris and other top White House officials for an event featuring a lecture from Brian Forde, director of digital currency initiative a the MIT Media Lab, and multiple panels on financial technology more generally speaking. Hosted at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, the executive branch
11:08 asciilifeform of the US government invited "senior administration officials" and "stakeholders" from financial institutions, startups and academia for the half-day event, called the White House Fintech Summit, according to the invitation.'
~ 1 hours ~
12:08 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
12:08 gribble Current Blocks: 416423 | Current Difficulty: 1.9606142393964996E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 417311 | Next Difficulty In: 888 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 7 hours, 8 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
12:09 BingoBoingo https://i.sli.mg/EyHBLo.jpg
12:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform lame duck government.
12:15 mircea_popescu much more interesting is what weird marine lepen-like notions re bitcoin float about under the trump rug.
12:17 asciilifeform i dun see the man as having even vague chance
12:23 mircea_popescu he seems the favourite actually.
12:23 mircea_popescu anyway, nobody cares what the woman thinks. she's not liable to touch it either way, 8 more years of obama.
12:24 asciilifeform 888888, if they could.
12:24 mircea_popescu aha.
12:24 mircea_popescu that's the plan.
12:30 deedbot [Trilema] Sensitivity! Human Rights! Democracy! - http://trilema.com/2016/sensitivity-human-rights-democracy/
~ 37 minutes ~
13:08 BingoBoingo Reddit encounters children https://archive.is/MtsfB
~ 19 minutes ~
13:27 asciilifeform in other not-even-slightly-news,
13:27 asciilifeform http://www.diane-neisius.de/fusor/index_E.html
13:27 asciilifeform ( BingoBoingo , for instance, might find here http://www.diane-neisius.de/alpha_vax/index.html of moar interest )
13:28 asciilifeform plenty of good stuff.
13:28 BingoBoingo ty asciilifeform
~ 26 minutes ~
13:55 shinohai http://bigstory.ap.org/article/7d26354496c344169964e6915ee06d37/argentine-ex-official-detained-over-bags-cash?
13:55 shinohai in a monastery yet
13:57 BingoBoingo From the mines: "I manage 2nd level escalations for a call center. I've trained my team to identify this type of person, and intentionally give them an inconsequential fight before agreeing. It actually leads to faster time to resolution and something like a 10% reduction in overall handle time."
13:58 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: heh
14:04 asciilifeform '"He later told the nuns that police had tried to steal the money that he was trying to donate," Ritondo said. "There are dollars, yen, euros and a currency from Qatar ... It's a lot of money." He did not give an exact amount because the money was still being counted.' << l0l
~ 18 minutes ~
14:22 phf asciilifeform: that's a beautiful page
14:22 asciilifeform sure is!
14:24 asciilifeform i remember when the ~whole www looked like this.
14:26 phf of course
14:32 BingoBoingo $up felipelalli
14:32 deedbot felipelalli voiced for 30 minutes.
14:32 felipelalli hi BingoBoingo! Great article.
14:32 BingoBoingo thank you
~ 23 minutes ~
14:55 mircea_popescu shinohai the socialists (partido justicialista, kirschner's people) had been i npower for decades. the change to other group of thieves (the us-soviets, macri & co) was full of animosity as you'd expect, and now that they're in power the looting proceeds at a feverish pace.
14:58 BingoBoingo Looters looting looters, oh my.
~ 26 minutes ~
15:25 mircea_popescu aha.
15:26 mircea_popescu was a thing before where they stole ~200 cars some dude was keeping in storage on his own farm in the deserted inner argentina, because "obviously" they didn't belong to him "really".
15:26 mircea_popescu imagine the sort of imbecile orc ruler that "saves" in fucking cars.
15:27 BingoBoingo seriously, storing cars in a way that they don't rot and can run when you take them out of storage is a challenge
15:33 mircea_popescu quite. and the pampa is very windy.
15:37 BingoBoingo Not like a rifle you can just stuff full of cosmoline. Car has more tubes to get cosmoline out of later.
15:40 * BingoBoingo kind of surprised Kohler doesn't to his knowledge make rifles
15:41 BingoBoingo Kohler seems to do a decent job making toilets, motors, and all sorts of other tub based products.
~ 32 minutes ~
16:14 BingoBoingo Que the shitgnomes https://archive.is/tqDVv
~ 19 minutes ~
16:33 deedbot [Qntra] Facebook Exec: "it will be probably all video" In 5 Years - http://qntra.net/2016/06/facebook-exec-it-will-be-probably-all-video-in-5-years/
16:37 phf half of the symbolics schematics are signed off by "v. popescu"
16:37 asciilifeform speaking of which
16:37 asciilifeform phf: can haz scans ?
16:38 phf i'm massaging them, i should be done within a month or so
16:47 mircea_popescu and add "invidious" to the list of terms the web can't define.
16:48 asciilifeform in other news, http://www.wacotrib.com/romania-court-rules-revolution-probe-will-be-reopened/article_6a61f2e6-d602-5b76-ae34-471e13cd61a9.html
16:48 asciilifeform 'BUCHAREST, Romania (AP) — A Romanian court has ruled that an investigation into the 1989 revolution where 1,104 people died can be reopened. Romania has been criticized for failing to investigate the revolution, where mainly unarmed demonstrators were shot dead around Romania from Dec. 17-30 as they protested against Communist leader Nicolae Ceausescu.'
16:48 mircea_popescu it doesn't mean whatever random crap google returns. invidious is the opposite of pious : when one who is inferior, instead of worshipping his superior, instead fancies himself his superior's equal.
16:48 mircea_popescu asciilifeform guy's dead so now they can convict him, i guess.
16:49 asciilifeform no word re the american snipers in bucharest '89, or moscow '93, or venezuela '02, ...., ...
16:49 mircea_popescu they were lebanese!
16:49 asciilifeform lel.
16:49 mircea_popescu the press said at the time
16:49 mircea_popescu terrorists from syria and lebanon!
16:49 asciilifeform shooting crowd in bucharest aha.
16:49 mircea_popescu dun worry about it too much though, the russian assraped the us undercover folks something fierce.
16:50 asciilifeform how's that
16:51 mircea_popescu cuz they came in, with ~exact knowledge of who's who, and rolled up just about all of em.
16:51 mircea_popescu i doubt any of them was ever heard from again. but hey, sikrits.
16:52 asciilifeform somehow this did not damper the recruitment of new ones, every year, to shoot the crowd in new cities
16:53 asciilifeform 'we control vertical and horizontal!' (tm) (r)
16:55 mircea_popescu there's ~500 mn idiots without anything to do with themselves. finding a few hundred a year to do this is no particularly notable feat.
16:55 mircea_popescu even the broom shoots once etc.
16:56 asciilifeform tru.
16:57 mircea_popescu but otherwise, teh us foreign service is sharply divided : either work for nsa & co, for very little money doing very stupid/boring shit ; or else work for dea & co for as much money as you can steal, doing rather stupid exciting shit that will 28% get you killed.
16:58 ben_vulpes there's also lockheed martin for a notbad bundle and zero risk
16:58 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: there is also being an accountant, what of it
16:58 mircea_popescu you have to actually have abilities for that.
16:59 mircea_popescu i was discussing the sewage drains.
16:59 ben_vulpes http://www.jqpublicblog.com/twelve-years-us-air-force-complaints-investigations-disappear-database-crash/ << one needn't even be competent!
16:59 mircea_popescu i guess the only way the tits are going over time is down.
17:01 asciilifeform http://www.jqpublicblog.com/fascist-internet-police-threaten-those-who-expose-generals-wastefulness << from same rag, lulzy
17:01 asciilifeform 'The photo above was posted recently to JQP Facebook as a means of commenting on the exorbitant waste of the Air Force’s multiple annual gatherings of its grand poobahs. Their gatherings, nicknamed “Corona” conferences, drain money, time, focus, and manpower from an already depleted Air Force in order to swaddle the service’s generals in the comfort of Earthly deification as they absorb formal dinners and presentations adding
17:01 asciilifeform marginal value but inflating their already bloated sense of self-importance. In response to one of these posts, the individual’s active duty Air Force chain of command, based at Wright-Patterson, placed him under investigation, barred him from his workplace, and ordered him to cease commenting on JQP.'
17:02 asciilifeform ~same flavour as leonid brezhnev's big hunts.
17:02 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes the best part ? "whole the USAF doesn't suspect foul play". fancy this wonder.
17:02 mircea_popescu "database lost" ; "it contained all sorts of incriminating evidence". clearly, no foul play. because this can happen now.
17:02 ben_vulpes right?
17:03 ben_vulpes tis a marvel
17:03 asciilifeform and backup is not a thing.
17:03 mircea_popescu insanity.
17:03 ben_vulpes well, at this time!
17:03 mircea_popescu and these people seriously expect to be treated differently from asphalt scrape ? why ? how ?
17:03 ben_vulpes they may change their mind, you see.
17:03 mircea_popescu "legal proceedings" ? what the ever loving fuck, go back to the trees.
17:03 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes ie, should outrage force them to get off their asses, they don't want to admit they changed course.
17:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform basically "we're poor and everyone else should be poor also" usian invidy ?
17:05 ben_vulpes the no backups thing is ultralarious
17:05 ben_vulpes > no backups
17:05 ben_vulpes > responsible for plans for 'cutting edge' us jets
17:05 ben_vulpes gimmeafugginbreak
17:06 mircea_popescu forget the plans, that's just engineering. THEY LOST THE ONLY COPY OF PROOF OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
17:06 ben_vulpes i ain't even mad anymore, just amused, and pleased at how easily the whole thing should melt apart.
17:06 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: so they're pathetic stoolies, what of it. what else have they been for decades?
17:07 mircea_popescu well... let them admit it.
17:07 ben_vulpes they just did, to anyone with half a brain
17:07 mircea_popescu btw, i think this is actually rather qntrable, if you feel like it.
17:07 ben_vulpes unfortunately there are like 12 functioning brains wandering around north america
17:07 ben_vulpes hm
17:07 mircea_popescu yes, but that excludes themselves. let them admit it TO THEMSELVES.
17:08 ben_vulpes there's nobody to cane them into accepting the reality of the world.
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17:23 mircea_popescu i guess the other point here is that no, the f-whatever ain't ever gonna fly.
17:23 asciilifeform it 'flies' every bit as much as every other machine.
17:23 asciilifeform as money furnace.
17:25 asciilifeform and plenty adequate for dropping rockets on sand monkeys armed with peashooter.
17:26 mircea_popescu just as long as the russians, the chinese and the republic each received its respective tax.
17:27 asciilifeform hence the resurrected 'missile shield' derpage - usg is again seeing the appeal of first strike
17:27 mircea_popescu let it derp all it wants, after it paid what it owes.
17:28 asciilifeform wake me up when it pays a cent.
17:30 mircea_popescu this may be the most amusing argument a taxpayer might ever present
17:31 mircea_popescu "your honor, i've been delinquent in my obligations, therefore i don't have them"
17:37 asciilifeform works great for the moneyprinter state.
17:38 mircea_popescu not so. so far they're paying through the nose, a good two thirds of anything their subjects consume being the usg's own contribution.
~ 1 hours 14 minutes ~
18:53 BingoBoingo Move to argentina http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=4613
19:02 mircea_popescu lol @ antpool.
19:07 BingoBoingo What did they do nao?
19:07 mircea_popescu some inept bitco.in drama about how they got buttraped.
19:07 BingoBoingo lol
19:12 BingoBoingo $up fiddlerwoaroof
19:12 BingoBoingo $up MrPPS
19:12 deedbot fiddlerwoaroof voiced for 30 minutes.
19:12 deedbot MrPPS voiced for 30 minutes.
19:20 shinohai ;;ticker --market all
19:20 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 692.39, vol: 5749.56308949 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 670.508, vol: 4929.09341 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 694.02, vol: 34013.18123689 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 702.92856, vol: 45231.16920000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 692.606, vol: 1901.11412325 | Volume-weighted last average: 697.014766234
19:24 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-07#1477855 << actually research done by ECL people claims that mocl is derivative of this project http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/~wg/clicc.html (via https://common-lisp.net/project/ecl/static/quarterly/img/vol4/all-hierarchy.png)
19:24 a111 Logged on 2016-06-07 01:28 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1475432 << i've used it, and the wukix people are responsive to feature requests. i think the source is a fork of one of kyoto common lisp derivatives, probably akcl. fwiw it's the same lineage as gcl and ecl, so ascii's "why not compile ecl" is entirely reasonable
~ 25 minutes ~
19:49 asciilifeform in other lulz, https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc
19:50 asciilifeform ( https://archive.is/pmp83 )
19:51 shinohai oh the lulz in the logs today.
19:51 mircea_popescu i'm guessing this is good for fiat ?
19:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform wtf, 1.doc
19:52 mircea_popescu ridoinculous.
19:52 asciilifeform nfi
19:56 asciilifeform 'misogynist in chief' << l0l!
20:02 asciilifeform 'Shut down the mechanisms used to transmit criminal profits by shutting down untraceable Internet payment schemes.' << from 'secret' doc's section on 'cyber policy'
20:03 asciilifeform ( https://guccifer2.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/4.doc )
20:05 mircea_popescu is anyone qntraing the guccifer thing ? speak now else i'm gonna
20:06 asciilifeform fire at will
20:07 asciilifeform not bad idea to mirror, also.
20:07 asciilifeform prolly will vanish within hours.
20:09 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> is anyone qntraing the guccifer thing ? speak now else i'm gonna << I'm going to sleep. If you qntra it I'll publish upon waking
20:09 mircea_popescu plox hang on for half an our
20:09 mircea_popescu this is kinda important.
20:22 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/475b4e02-83c9-4c90-8e8d-c3d125aa158d/
20:23 BingoBoingo digesting
20:26 mircea_popescu ty.
20:27 mircea_popescu anyway. time to shut down hillary clinton's political aspirations.
20:28 * asciilifeform doesn't see an easy, 'just add water!' clitler cure in there
20:30 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Adding some links to extant qntra
20:34 BingoBoingo published
20:36 asciilifeform what happened to mirror.
20:36 asciilifeform srsly
20:36 deedbot [Qntra] Clinton And Major Socialist Party Data Released By Hero - http://qntra.net/2016/06/clinton-and-major-socialist-party-data-released-by-hero/
20:36 asciilifeform that thing will stay up until the hornet's nest clocks in tomorrow morning, at the latest.
20:41 BingoBoingo Perhaps MP is saving the mirror and gloating for a Trilema post?
20:41 shinohai ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/TdH <<< edit fir lulz if needed
20:41 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:45 BingoBoingo ty shinohai
20:46 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I think that's a new record for time to qntra post being linked by another qntra post.
20:46 BingoBoingo brb, sleep
20:47 deedbot [Qntra] US Air Force Fraud Investigations Lost - http://qntra.net/2016/06/us-air-force-fraud-investigations-lost/
20:49 asciilifeform motherfucker HAD TO put all the docs in buncha js soup
20:51 asciilifeform anyway i got a copy. for whoever needs later.
21:01 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo win!
21:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform anything other than wget -m ?
21:03 mircea_popescu "31 files, 467k in 1.9s"
21:04 mircea_popescu oops. i mean... wget -mp is the correct format! who knew :p
21:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: won't work
21:11 mircea_popescu i just noticed it doesn't grab files. wtf ?
21:11 asciilifeform aha.
21:11 asciilifeform js soup
21:11 mircea_popescu nope.
21:12 mircea_popescu they're on a different domain, as per wordpress idiocy. and wget is apparently written by imbeciles.
21:12 mircea_popescu wget -mpr --domains=guccifer2.wordpress.com,guccifer2.files.wordpress.com https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc/ STILL doesn't get the files
21:12 mircea_popescu which is not acceptabru.
21:13 shinohai ;;later tell http://ix.io/Ted << re: changetip
21:13 gribble Error: That is an invalid IRC nick. Please check your input.
21:13 shinohai ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/Ted << re: changetip
21:13 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:13 mircea_popescu http://superuser.com/questions/827002/mirror-a-blog-with-wget << one of numerous instances of people asking / complaining about the idiocy.
21:14 shinohai curl forevah
21:14 mircea_popescu i thought wget was supposed to be FOR THIS.
21:17 mircea_popescu aha! found it.
21:17 mircea_popescu wget -Hmpr --domains=guccifer2.wordpress.com,guccifer2.files.wordpress.com https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc/ is the pill.
21:18 mircea_popescu 52 files, 9.6M
21:25 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo we prolly should have a rule as to the maximum wordcount for an a href anchor.
~ 15 minutes ~
21:41 shinohai Simply exclude href wordcount?
21:41 mircea_popescu i just mean, blue underlined text should be maybe 2-3-4 words not 20+
21:42 shinohai i just mean to me it makes no sense to include href as wordcount
21:43 shinohai tis how linkfarms are created!
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21:59 mod6 thestringpuller: so, one thing i can tell for sure from your dpaste is that you're not running the latest trb tree.
22:05 mod6 not sure what else might be the problem there though.
22:08 shinohai it seems to be working for me, was gonna try an arch install tomorrow
22:11 thestringpuller i'm not but it ~was~ working
22:11 thestringpuller why did it wedge there?
22:15 mod6 not sure.
22:15 mod6 mine is happily running along past that block. mine is fully caught up.
22:15 mod6 do you have the cutblock code in your build?
22:16 thestringpuller how can I output my current tree with v.pl?
22:16 mod6 ./v.pl f
22:17 mod6 that'll tell me what is in your patches dir, but not necessarily what you actually built. you haven't said yet what you built or how.
22:17 mod6 since your version shows 50400, it makes me inclined to think that you have some downlevel version since it should say 99999 if you have the latest.
22:17 thestringpuller i built with stator
22:17 mod6 any particular reason?
22:17 thestringpuller no
22:17 thestringpuller lol
22:18 mod6 i would try building with the latest and see.
22:18 thestringpuller http://dpaste.com/3T730DW.txt
22:18 thestringpuller what additional patches do i need to add?
22:19 mod6 follow these steps if need be: http://wiki.deedbot.org/The%20Real%20Bitcoin
22:19 mod6 and you will ~also~ need to do this: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-15#1482967
22:19 a111 Logged on 2016-06-15 00:24 mod6: so looks like openssl did change to https, and if you want to build with 'http://deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-V99995.sh', for the time being simply update the script by changing line 63 from:
22:20 mod6 follow the steps in that log link.
22:22 thestringpuller how can I check what pathces have been applied?
22:26 thestringpuller okay nvm i see it's manually been applied
22:26 mod6 if you use the script referenced above, it'll verbosely print out the patches being applied. which you can log into a file.
22:26 thestringpuller yea just saw that
22:27 thestringpuller everythign was applied
22:27 thestringpuller okay i'll add the new patch sets
22:27 thestringpuller i wonder what broke....
22:27 thestringpuller lemme try one last thign
22:28 mod6 not sure. was this the same blockchain that you've been using with this same build? that error you recieved makes me think something got munged.
22:29 thestringpuller fuck
22:29 thestringpuller i had an updated one for a while
22:29 thestringpuller then that happened
22:29 thestringpuller i better not have to resync
22:29 thestringpuller i'ma be so angry
22:40 shinohai i can haz lasers ?
22:40 phf pew pew
22:41 thestringpuller ;;laser kittens
22:41 gribble Error: "laser" is not a valid command.
22:41 thestringpuller ;;lasers kittens
22:41 gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
~ 35 minutes ~
23:16 mircea_popescu so, sadly but apparently unavoidable : who wants to re-do btcalpha wot explorer ?
23:22 phf is there public deedbot dump somewhere?
23:26 phf there used to be that sql dump, and then i think trinque started giving out sql logins to his wot postgresql server, is how wot data access progressed?
~ 19 minutes ~
23:45 asciilifeform ;;seen mike_c
23:45 gribble mike_c was last seen in #trilema 7 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, 43 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <mike_c> at least you won the 'most famous mircea popescu' award - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mircea+popescu
23:45 asciilifeform truly awol ?
23:45 asciilifeform or... kakotronic ??
23:49 phf asciilifeform: you don't hang out there anymore?
23:49 asciilifeform where ?
23:49 asciilifeform #b-a ? logged in still, but he ain't there iirc
23:49 phf ah
23:49 asciilifeform or at least not actively.
23:50 asciilifeform (he's logged in, theoretically, here ~and~ there. but so was, until recently, artifexd)
23:51 asciilifeform <asciilifeform> ;;seen mike_c
23:51 asciilifeform <gribble> mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 14 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <mike_c> I was like "are all the ratings hosed??"
23:51 asciilifeform ^ for compleeetness.
23:52 asciilifeform '... and then one day, he rode away, and where he dwelleth - none can say; for into darkness fell his star - in mordor, where the shadows lie.' (tm) (r) (jrrt)
23:53 phf bunch of people went a plague o' both your houses
23:53 asciilifeform dunno about 'bunch'
23:53 asciilifeform most of the folks who aren't here - are still there.
23:54 phf oh i see
23:56 phf i stopped following the other side, because it was a daily dose of "if you want to suck mp cock you know where to find it"
23:57 mircea_popescu phf afaik yeah, trinque will give you a sql link
23:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well, guy has a job, a wife and a child. who knows what trouble besets the man.
23:58 phf which i always thought is a pretty poor rhetoric tactic ever since i encountered it in like 6th grade
23:58 asciilifeform ben_vulpes has wives, children, jobs, does ok
23:58 mircea_popescu phf it's very hard to differentiate oneself when oneself has nothing to offer. forced mistake, what else to do other than.
23:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform "but for the grace of god there goes i" or how did that quote go.
23:59 asciilifeform i suppose
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