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00:22 phf so if you work too long with tinyscheme repl, you shit town of gensyms in oblist and things ... get ... somewhat ... slower
00:22 phf *get shit towm
00:22 phf fuck it.
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00:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21280 @ 0.00058038 = 12.3505 BTC [+] {4}
00:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40594 @ 0.00058075 = 23.575 BTC [+]
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01:02 phf BITCOIND> (time
01:02 phf (let ((big2 (integer->big 2 10)))
01:02 phf (let loop ((i 1024) (big big2))
01:02 phf (if (> i 1)
01:02 phf (loop (- i 1) (big-mul big big2))
01:02 phf (show-big big)))))
01:02 phf 179769313486231590772930519078902473361797697894230657273430081157732675805500963132708477322407536021120113879871393357658789768814416622492847430639474124377767893424865485276302219601246094119453082952085005768838150682342462881473913110540827237163350510684586298239947245938479716304835356329624224137216
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01:02 phf time: 12.53040195
01:02 phf
01:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37750 @ 0.00057728 = 21.7923 BTC [-] {2}
01:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37050 @ 0.00058028 = 21.4994 BTC [+]
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01:48 ben_vulpes phf: i'd love to see your clang work *elbow elbow*
01:48 phf yeah yeah
01:48 phf sometime this weekend
01:50 ben_vulpes !up PaulCape_
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02:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00058084 = 23.8725 BTC [+] {5}
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02:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107635 @ 0.00057998 = 62.4261 BTC [-] {3}
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04:09 punkman http://vintage-ephemera.blogspot.com/2011_09_01_archive.html
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04:09 assbot Vera Violetta: September 2011 ... ( http://bit.ly/1oOcL1H )
04:10 punkman http://hyperallergic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/cyanotype9-768x965.jpeg
04:10 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1oOcMCU )
04:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15950 @ 0.00058155 = 9.2757 BTC [+]
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05:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38666 @ 0.0005827 = 22.5307 BTC [+]
05:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83200 @ 0.000583 = 48.5056 BTC [+] {8}
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09:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66100 @ 0.00057182 = 37.7973 BTC [-]
09:24 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416416 << congrats phf !!
09:24 assbot Logged on 27-02-2016 06:02:14; phf: 179769313486231590772930519078902473361797697894230657273430081157732675805500963132708477322407536021120113879871393357658789768814416622492847430639474124377767893424865485276302219601246094119453082952085005768838150682342462881473913110540827237163350510684586298239947245938479716304835356329624224137216
09:27 mircea_popescu i honestly don't think 12 seconds is bad.
09:34 asciilifeform depends.
09:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98248 @ 0.00057159 = 56.1576 BTC [-] {3}
09:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61375 @ 0.00057093 = 35.0408 BTC [-]
09:41 mircea_popescu teh mpex price warz!
09:50 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416437 << hottest pr0nz ever posted here imho!
09:50 assbot Logged on 27-02-2016 09:09:51; punkman: http://vintage-ephemera.blogspot.com/2011_09_01_archive.html
09:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51220 @ 0.00057093 = 29.243 BTC [-]
09:57 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416395 << what's a cuntskirt ?
09:57 assbot Logged on 27-02-2016 04:13:12; mircea_popescu: motherfucker. so i go to grande fiesta argentina club/teatro blabla bla. one girl in a corset, the other girl in a cuntskirt, nice stuff. i get there, it's a dingy fucking affair the likes you've never seen, and a bunch of retards in jeans and tshirts queued around the fucking corner waiting for the shithole to open.
09:57 asciilifeform transparent?
09:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00057093 = 13.1314 BTC [-] {2}
10:06 mircea_popescu a cuntskirt is a skirt cut to fall exactly at the height of the cunt.
10:06 mircea_popescu so for as long as you're standing still, it covers.
10:06 asciilifeform ah.
10:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.0005731 = 9.3415 BTC [+]
10:21 punkman asciilifeform: .. << hottest pr0nz ever posted here imho! << 100 year old porn is pretty cool
10:21 mircea_popescu deadophilliacs.
10:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29150 @ 0.00057712 = 16.823 BTC [+]
10:22 asciilifeform punkman: aha! they still had actual chix in quantity, to photograph, vs today's plastic meatrobots.
10:22 asciilifeform they had... faces.
10:23 mircea_popescu now i gotta see this thing
10:24 mircea_popescu http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4x0rWl7KtDA/T1qNIZA-_zI/AAAAAAAACZo/MKFauwcXCPk/s1600/annettekellerman.jpg << dude, srsly ?
10:24 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QDpiLa )
10:25 mircea_popescu wtf is with this disobedient, herpy female bullshit. i'd take bangbros over the "artistic" pre-digital shit any fucking day and twice on sundays and bangbroxmas.
10:27 asciilifeform mega-unsurprise
10:27 punkman what's wrong with that picture
10:27 mircea_popescu and i'm not even proposing that bangbros is fit for anything but decorating rural outhouses and rolls of toilet paper.
10:27 mircea_popescu nevertheless...
10:28 mircea_popescu punkman that the woman's face looks like it could belong to an inuit warrior, that her female bits are NOT front-and-center and that her posture is inadequate (in not being loudly submissive to a degree of almost parody)
10:29 asciilifeform isn't she supposed to be a greek goddess in that pic?
10:29 mircea_popescu it's the exact opposite of cuntskirt.
10:29 mircea_popescu i dun give a shit what her delusional head tells her she's being in MY pic.
10:29 mircea_popescu greek fucking goddess, what's next.
10:30 mircea_popescu how about she bees a worm ? i dun truck with women posturing as greek goddesses.
10:30 asciilifeform mega-unsurprise2.
10:31 * mircea_popescu waves from his boat, the unsurprise.
10:32 mircea_popescu also, isn't this conversation breaking the cuntdel test ? :D
10:39 asciilifeform l0l!
10:40 mircea_popescu what baffles me is that you somehow associate this vapid bullshit with "faces", or i suppose more deeply, personalities.
10:41 asciilifeform it is more that my allergens are absent
10:41 mircea_popescu you know the hambeasts being special on etsy are to no degree, in no manner and not at all any deeper, or more in possession of a soul than casting couch starlets and aspiring cocksuckers everywhere.
10:41 asciilifeform not having been yet invented.
10:41 mircea_popescu what allergens be those ?
10:41 asciilifeform the 'hambeasts' are deformed
10:41 mircea_popescu i meant something specific tho.
10:42 mircea_popescu the etsy woman is this very peculiar anglo chick.
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10:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the plastic face (partly literally, pound of cosmetic)
10:42 mircea_popescu so you can't stand japanese, or for that matter classic, theatre.
10:42 asciilifeform and the bovine empty stare.
10:42 asciilifeform i like theatre but won't lust to it
10:43 mircea_popescu you know, just because she isn't looking 2 inches under the apex of the camera lens (which is how that effect is obtained, and in all women, even the liveliest cockteases of the lot) but instead 30 degrees to the left in the foliage changes EXACTLY nothing
10:43 asciilifeform but actual mask doesn't trigger the same revulsion
10:43 mircea_popescu the cowsies are just as bovine, the pixies just as flittery.
10:44 mircea_popescu maybe the explanation here is that having seen the thing from the threshold of the 4th wall, my head readily maps and/or discards your allergens.
10:44 asciilifeform possibly.
10:45 asciilifeform this may be an MP-complete problem!!1111
10:45 mircea_popescu while inept shit like you know, "artistically" putting one's hair over one's pubis really gets my fucking goat.
10:45 mircea_popescu i can't stand about 80% of everything hollywood ever made because of the boob cut.
10:47 mircea_popescu heck, 80% of what i like about verhoeven is that he doesn't follow the inept convention of "ohmygerd gotta artistically snip the nips!!11"
10:49 asciilifeform also what is http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416509 , now i'm curious
10:49 assbot Logged on 27-02-2016 15:42:04; mircea_popescu: the etsy woman is this very peculiar anglo chick.
10:49 mircea_popescu fine, let's detail.
10:49 * asciilifeform thought at 'etsy' was a site for abysmal artists
10:50 mircea_popescu a girl of no particular talents or inclinations grows up in the house of white, upper lowerclass to higher middle class parents, decided to be a good girl and be good and nice and good!
10:51 mircea_popescu she proceeds to go to through school, because you must, where her chief accomplishment is not getting pregnant, because you mustn't! and after having failed at both knowledge and passion, she carries her decrepit carcass sucked mostly dry of juice by the vampire of her mother and the lich of her father + assorted family on to college
10:51 mircea_popescu because you must! and there she picks up a lukewarm major and more or less finishes, and gets involved in some sort of verbiage or another, like journalismsocialmediavolunteeringtohelppeopleblablabla.
10:52 mircea_popescu by now she's totally lost, and well... she can't have children, nor could ever. she can't interest a man, nor could ever. she can't keep herself amused, nor could ever.
10:52 asciilifeform so far i'm with this, i live in town with 30,000 of it
10:52 mircea_popescu so she makes some garbage out of some other garbage and attempts to imbue it with all her dismal powers of nothing
10:52 mircea_popescu that in another woman in another place would have been offspring and family and work and power and everything human
10:53 mircea_popescu but in her, it's just this small, lukewarm, modest piece of garbage.
10:53 asciilifeform except for the 'interest man', they reliably pair up
10:53 mircea_popescu "vintage" purse. scented candle. "good for you" soap.
10:53 asciilifeform with the male equiv.
10:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that is not a man.
10:53 mircea_popescu and yes, they do, and all that happens is that they cry over their own dead bodies together.
10:54 asciilifeform no theorems.
10:55 asciilifeform this is the fate of people with no theorems.
10:55 mircea_popescu and then you see her in the studio, dragged in by one of the usual preditors, "lesbian" women that hate women (especially in the sense of our "heroine"), ex-athlete stars who figure they've been shortchanged because school ends, you name it.
10:55 asciilifeform and you forgot to list the cat-breeding.
10:55 mircea_popescu and there... she attempts to protect what she perceives as valuable by virtue of inertia.
10:55 mircea_popescu that comes after.
10:56 asciilifeform after what?
10:56 asciilifeform what triggers the cats?
10:56 mircea_popescu after everyone's done trying to predate her.
10:57 asciilifeform ah
10:57 mircea_popescu the cats make reasonable exploiters.
10:57 mircea_popescu i suppose they'd raise spiders, if spiders ate human flesh.
10:57 asciilifeform i think this is really it .
10:57 mircea_popescu but spiders don't care, having better things to do and much more talent with the thread and needle.
10:57 asciilifeform the dream of being eaten...
10:58 asciilifeform i often wonder why they never raise big cats
10:58 mircea_popescu the truth of the matter is that flesh knows its cure.
10:58 mircea_popescu she should be eaten, and in a sane world would try and befriend a wolf in winter. i'm sure this actually happened historically, if not recorded anywhere.
10:58 mircea_popescu (by whom - wolves don't write)
10:58 asciilifeform aha!
10:59 mircea_popescu and there's perfectly valid evolutionary reason the genes for this nonsense'd be present in the population.
10:59 mircea_popescu the etsy girl is the platelet of humanity. she goes to be eaten.
10:59 mircea_popescu there's record in the history of the church of virgin in flock of virgins that gave herself to orcs so that the others may be kept, and they fucked her to bits, so she's now a strange sort of martyr.
11:00 mircea_popescu and how do you know that the cods that you ACTUALLY cut with a knife in scandia sounds aren't DIFFERENT cods from all the other cods, and especially the cods you do not cut.
11:00 asciilifeform sop in insect world..
11:00 mircea_popescu now, that such misery would be selected for and bred into the population by the ineptitude of "state" and "government" is merely unfortunate.
11:01 mircea_popescu but it is inhuman, and it is inhuman deeply and irretrievably.
11:01 mircea_popescu confronted with this problem, bovine stares bother me not at all.
11:01 asciilifeform ever read 'the human zoo' ?
11:01 mircea_popescu dun think so ?
11:01 asciilifeform sorta about this
11:01 asciilifeform concerns degenerate behaviours in captive animals and maps onto man
11:02 mircea_popescu understand that the woman immortalized in, say, vegetanpizda, is stricto sensu human, whereas the etsy girl is not, nor could ever be,
11:04 asciilifeform any evil empire worth its salt, breeds monsters.
11:04 * asciilifeform bbl, food
11:04 mircea_popescu ideally monsters that are better suited for life, however. this is pretty shitty.
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11:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48400 @ 0.00057712 = 27.9326 BTC [+]
11:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35850 @ 0.00057093 = 20.4678 BTC [-]
11:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58200 @ 0.00057844 = 33.6652 BTC [+] {2}
11:43 asciilifeform [Hardware Error]: MC4 Error (node 1): DRAM ECC error detected on the NB
11:44 asciilifeform [Hardware Error]: Error Status: Corrected error, no action required.
11:44 asciilifeform my first cosmic ray !
11:44 mircea_popescu wd
11:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31721 @ 0.00057707 = 18.3052 BTC [-] {3}
11:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 154003 @ 0.00057077 = 87.9003 BTC [-] {2}
11:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113447 @ 0.00056854 = 64.4992 BTC [-] {2}
11:58 asciilifeform either that or i finally got fed the polonium.
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11:59 asciilifeform (or i shouldnt've bought those decade-old dimms...)
12:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00057954 = 15.126 BTC [+]
12:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57120 @ 0.00057979 = 33.1176 BTC [+] {2}
12:09 hdbuck good day gentlemen
12:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43300 @ 0.00057021 = 24.6901 BTC [-] {2}
12:11 hdbuck pardon for my agnostic demands but as I’ve just followed Mr popescu’s guide to set up the realbitcoinfoundation node, i am unsure how it is working :/
12:12 asciilifeform hdbuck: unsure how ?
12:12 asciilifeform hdbuck: it works, or it doesn't ?
12:15 hdbuck i got a v hash not matching
12:15 asciilifeform which one ?
12:15 hdbuck peter koorsgad
12:15 asciilifeform ugh
12:16 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: did the buildroot fella ever come back to you with a modern sig ?
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12:17 danielpbarron i saw him /part yesterday
12:18 asciilifeform danielpbarron: this doesn't tell us much. artifexd and dignork are still logged in, long after having set sail on the flying dutchman
12:19 hdbuck so am stuck until mr korsgaad signature is verified?
12:20 asciilifeform hdbuck: try verifying it by hand, and tell us what was the output
12:20 asciilifeform and post the file hash here. (sha512)
12:20 hdbuck how would i do that?
12:20 asciilifeform first things first, link to the build script you used
12:20 asciilifeform (or dpaste it)
12:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40700 @ 0.00056774 = 23.107 BTC [-] {2}
12:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14726 @ 0.00057991 = 8.5398 BTC [+]
12:22 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1416099 << he parted about 2 minutes after this line
12:22 assbot Logged on 26-02-2016 17:05:40; PeterL: so if people in the Assbot L1 are the peers, what do we call those of us in the Assbot L2?
12:25 hdbuck http://dpaste.com/2ZZXGPW
12:25 assbot dpaste: 2ZZXGPW ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ran8Dx )
12:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52924 @ 0.00058244 = 30.8251 BTC [+]
12:27 asciilifeform hdbuck: yours barfs on line 45, gpg --verify buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz.sign ?
12:29 hdbuck what do you mean?
12:29 asciilifeform where does it die ?
12:29 asciilifeform your build
12:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47700 @ 0.00056719 = 27.055 BTC [-] {2}
12:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57900 @ 0.00056633 = 32.7905 BTC [-]
12:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12226 @ 0.00056752 = 6.9385 BTC [+]
12:47 hdbuck when i execute it i just get this: http://dpaste.com/2F3PSGN
12:47 assbot dpaste: 2F3PSGN ... ( http://bit.ly/1RapMcr )
12:49 asciilifeform ;;later tell mod6 http://dpaste.com/2ZZXGPW << wtf is with line 46 of that ?????
12:49 assbot dpaste: 2ZZXGPW ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ran8Dx )
12:49 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:49 asciilifeform ;;later tell mod6 rather, 47
12:49 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:50 asciilifeform this script cannot possibly work.
12:50 asciilifeform hdbuck: where and when did you get it ?
12:51 ben_vulpes http://dpaste.com/2ZZXGPW#line-3 << see anything else wrong, asciilifeform ?
12:51 assbot dpaste: 2ZZXGPW ... ( http://bit.ly/1TFLlpL )
12:52 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: is this supposed to highlight a line ?
12:52 asciilifeform this dun work on my box.
12:52 ben_vulpes run more chromeblows!
12:52 asciilifeform doesn't highlight there, either !
12:52 asciilifeform i have every possible wwwtron here, i think
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12:53 asciilifeform at any rate, WHAT THE FUCK was 'curl -s -o V-20151129.tar.gz' EVER supposed to do ??????
12:53 ben_vulpes notrly a thing to spend much time debugging, it does say 'line-3'
12:53 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: aaand ?
12:54 ben_vulpes v99997. not that anyone could be reasonably expected to know that that's 2 degrees out of date.
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12:55 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i get that
12:55 asciilifeform but that was not my question.
12:55 asciilifeform 'curl -s -o V-20151129.tar.gz' ??????
12:55 asciilifeform does what.
12:55 asciilifeform how did this ~ever~ work ?
12:56 ben_vulpes anyways this i believe to be the current version: http://mod6.net/btcf/build-bitcoind-V99995.sh
12:56 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1TFLYjd )
12:56 hdbuck @asciilifeform got it from the commands the wiki tells us to do i suppose
12:56 ben_vulpes that wiki'll be the death of poor mod6
12:56 ben_vulpes and me
12:57 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: this thing where outdated crud floats around, confusing people, drove me to madness long before v etc.
12:58 asciilifeform i have yet to devise any serious final solution to this (outside of eldritch horrors like blockchain telegraphy.)
12:59 ben_vulpes <blink>HOW TO NODE</blink> on thebitcoin.foundation would be an improvement
12:59 asciilifeform but the one practical observation is, PICK UP YOUR TRASH
12:59 asciilifeform either update the wiki EVERY TIME it gets obsoleted, or... don't bother HAVING it.
12:59 hdbuck ah so it is because you keep going on and dont bother updating the wiki?
13:00 asciilifeform hdbuck: apparently.
13:00 hdbuck so i get to dl obsolete script :/
13:00 asciilifeform aha.
13:02 hdbuck anyway i gotta go, i’ll come back for moar help setting it up, thanks anyway
13:02 ben_vulpes hdbuck use the linked v99995
13:13 hdbuck @ben_vulpes now i got this http://dpaste.com/2N5V06F
13:13 assbot dpaste: 2N5V06F ... ( http://bit.ly/1TFO3f7 )
13:14 asciilifeform hdbuck: please get my updated key from http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB98228A001ABFFC7 (and/or http://www.loper-os.org/pgp.asc )
13:14 assbot Public Key Server -- Get "0xb98228a001abffc7 " ... ( http://bit.ly/1TFOcit )
13:14 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mwR9Wt )
13:15 asciilifeform hdbuck: where did your set of keys come from originally ?
13:19 hdbuck i look up from pool.sks-keyservers.net directly using the 0x… keys from the script
13:20 asciilifeform WHEN
13:20 hdbuck 2 days ago
13:21 hdbuck also i just did it again now, with the link you provided me with, still not working
13:21 asciilifeform paste the public key you have for me.
13:21 asciilifeform (dpaste)
13:22 hdbuck http://dpaste.com/0D10JJK
13:22 assbot dpaste: 0D10JJK ... ( http://bit.ly/1ODzvpD )
13:23 danielpbarron http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin << updated, let me know if I messed something up
13:23 assbot the_real_bitcoin [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/238YcVW )
13:26 asciilifeform hdbuck: this appears to be a correct key.
13:27 asciilifeform hdbuck: but is it the key that v is using on your box ?
13:28 asciilifeform mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al : possibly a neglected subject in the wiki, trb site, etc. is where the hell a n00b is supposed to get pubkeys.
13:28 danielpbarron where is anyone supposed to get pubkeys?
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13:28 asciilifeform i did not say that this was a solvable problem, in the usual sense.
13:29 danielpbarron i think it's generally solved by the 6-month rule
13:30 hdbuck @asciilifeform but is it the key that v is using on your box ? >> what do you mean?
13:32 asciilifeform hdbuck: if you take that key and manually run gpg --verify ..... on one of my patches, what do you get ?
13:33 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: while mod6's scripts pull them down from the net, i think this is actually a social problem.
13:33 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i thought he quit doing this ????
13:33 asciilifeform after i explained that it is a catastrophic mistake
13:33 ben_vulpes ah, i recall now.
13:33 ben_vulpes naively, from each of our websites?
13:34 asciilifeform but now it seems like hdbuck somehow ended up with my expired subkey ?
13:34 ben_vulpes danielpbarron: has it though
13:34 asciilifeform anyway hdbuck has done his 6 mo. tour of duty, iirc.
13:34 asciilifeform so this does not automagically solve.
13:34 asciilifeform what, make the 6, 36 ?
13:35 ben_vulpes what, reading the logs magically solves the key distribution problem? or do i catastrophically misunderstand.
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13:36 asciilifeform well clearly it does not.
13:36 ben_vulpes is supposed to?
13:36 asciilifeform and there is not an actual solution to the key distribution problem.
13:36 asciilifeform just as there is not a solution to the three-body problem.
13:36 asciilifeform but there are non-solution approximations of varying degrees of brokenness.
13:37 asciilifeform imho, at the very least he oughta be able to ask assbot and get the pubkey each of us is presently logged in with.
13:37 asciilifeform kakobrekla ? mircea_popescu ?
13:37 ben_vulpes sorry, i was being snide.
13:42 mircea_popescu hm ?
13:43 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: was asking about getting assbot to regurgitate pubkeys on demand
13:44 hdbuck asciilifeform: hdbuck: if you take that key and manually run gpg --verify ..... on one of my patches, what do you get ? >> could you dpaste it so i dont get it wrong?
13:44 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416599 << not so far, no.
13:44 assbot Logged on 27-02-2016 17:16:12; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did the buildroot fella ever come back to you with a modern sig ?
13:44 asciilifeform hdbuck: paste what ?
13:44 hdbuck the command
13:45 asciilifeform gpg --verify some.vpatch.sig
13:45 hdbuck i’ve just started over in a new directory using the new wiki, still not sorking :/
13:46 danielpbarron heh, where does it go off the tracks?
13:46 danielpbarron for me, i also had a problem with the buildroot sig, but it finished with a working bitcoind anyway
13:47 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416637 << eh, every possible wwwtron that runs no www, somehow, even the www that runs on every actual wwtron, including all the ones that run very constrained sets of www!!1
13:47 assbot Logged on 27-02-2016 17:52:40; asciilifeform: i have every possible wwwtron here, i think
13:47 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ikr ?
13:47 mircea_popescu must be selfwritten.
13:47 asciilifeform fact is, doesn't seem to work on anything
13:47 asciilifeform possibly because i don't do the update thing ?
13:51 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416641 << i just looked in the wiki.
13:51 assbot Logged on 27-02-2016 17:54:40; ben_vulpes: v99997. not that anyone could be reasonably expected to know that that's 2 degrees out of date.
13:51 mircea_popescu a) the line in question is not there. hdbuck where did you get it from ?
13:51 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: look also in the log, i think it just got fixed 1/2 hr ago
13:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102074 @ 0.00057718 = 58.9151 BTC [+] {2}
13:51 mircea_popescu b) there is no "crud". it correctly indicates to use 99995.
13:51 mircea_popescu mk.
13:52 kakobrekla "!key $nick" or something has been on my mind for a few months just havent actually gotten around to it.
13:53 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416682 <<< everyone is supposed to get pubkeys from THEIR FRIENDS.
13:53 assbot Logged on 27-02-2016 18:28:36; danielpbarron: where is anyone supposed to get pubkeys?
13:54 mircea_popescu exactly same place one gets phone numbers for horny sluts.
13:54 mircea_popescu we're misusing the wot / pushing things, here.
13:54 mircea_popescu this nonsense is not to long continue.
13:54 asciilifeform i can't really disagree with mircea_popescu.
13:55 asciilifeform the inevitable thing is that vtron users' expectations must re-adjust.
13:55 kakobrekla except that noobs dont have friends
13:55 asciilifeform ^
13:55 asciilifeform step 1 has to be 'make friend'
13:55 asciilifeform there is no other way.
13:56 mircea_popescu kakobrekla no friends, no life.
13:56 ben_vulpes "social problem"
13:57 mircea_popescu aha.
13:57 kakobrekla idk whats the goal of trb to be ran among a dozen friends and thats it?
13:57 mircea_popescu no. the goal of trb is to be ran AMONG PEOPLE.
13:57 mircea_popescu we're not saving fucking africa over here.
13:57 asciilifeform kakobrekla: and their friends, and their friends' friends
13:57 kakobrekla there arent that many of those.
13:57 mircea_popescu so ?
13:58 mircea_popescu this is like saying "rembrandt is not good because not so many of them"
13:58 kakobrekla i want to use my buttcoins at more than 7 places, ideally
13:58 mircea_popescu i want to use my buttcoins at EXACTLY 0 places of the wrong sort.
13:58 mircea_popescu i'm not really as constrained about where i leave my seed.
14:00 kakobrekla if the soil wont be fertile 0 places of the right sort will grow.
14:01 mircea_popescu if the requirement of "have a friend" is a bar to fertility, other things have to be fixed.
14:01 mircea_popescu not this one. this one is just the gauge.
14:01 mircea_popescu basically, i'm starting to understand, socialism is, other than utter idiocy, an alt-way to be social!
14:01 mircea_popescu have friends with all the benefits of never meeting them, and none of the drawbacks. have friends IN AFRICA!
14:02 mircea_popescu not the real place, of course. the mental nation of africa.
14:02 asciilifeform how is that 'friends'
14:02 mircea_popescu hey, how is usd money.
14:02 mircea_popescu who knows these things.
14:02 asciilifeform usd is what used to be called scrip.
14:02 asciilifeform the 'friends' are what used to be called 'penpal'
14:02 asciilifeform there were words, for these lesser simulacra.
14:02 mircea_popescu and these friends is what used to be called hallucinations.
14:03 asciilifeform well once you come to think of simulacra as the real thing, yes, hallucination
14:03 asciilifeform sex doll is not a woman, etc.
14:05 mircea_popescu and you know, it's something i actually encountered in teh field ? slavegirl picks up random 19 yo, kinda mousy, manga fan with glasses living with parents sorta chick. they go out a coupla times over the course of i dunno - months ? eventually she cuts her off. turns out teenybopper was turning down ~9 out of 10 invites, never put out, her last email being something like "we'll i'd like to continue being friends". bit
14:05 mircea_popescu ch, seriously, being friends DOING WHAT ?
14:05 mircea_popescu but see, for 19 yo redditard, "being friends" doth not include or imply doing anything. on the contrary.
14:05 mircea_popescu it's a fantasy, not a state.
14:06 asciilifeform in other lulz, https://archive.is/F5Rih
14:06 assbot Amazon.com: John Young's review of Playing to the Edge: American Intelligence... ... ( http://bit.ly/1oGfKII )
14:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform sexuate reproduction happens between a passive and an active individual. so we'll have to see what you mean by "sex doll". if it's a literalism, sure, if it's a metaphore prolly no deal.
14:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if there were a type of turnip-cum-cunt that could be fucked, right there in your garden's soil, would you ?
14:07 asciilifeform doesn't get more passive than that...
14:07 mircea_popescu depends.
14:07 asciilifeform !b 3
14:07 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/08E0ZES.txt )
14:07 asciilifeform l0l!!
14:07 mircea_popescu loll all you want. there is no objective feminity.
14:08 mircea_popescu it's a construct.
14:08 asciilifeform eh who am i to say turnip isn't fuckable.
14:08 mircea_popescu no.
14:08 asciilifeform perhaps on mircea_popescu's planet, that is what is to fuck.
14:08 mircea_popescu who are you to say YOU wouldn't fuck turnip, love it, and refuse to cease even when shown otherwise ?
14:09 asciilifeform i probably would, and will, if These Things Go On (tm)
14:10 asciilifeform don't get me wrong, i very much see the mircea_popescutronic perspective here.
14:11 danielpbarron i encountered one of these "just friends" chicks somewhat recently : girl hits me up on farceb00k seeing that her friends are friends with me; chats me up daily for like a week; I suggest she come see me and get some food somewhere; her response "what would we do? just talk?" ; mine "sure" ; haven't heard from her since
14:11 asciilifeform let something be other than passive, and do something ~to~ you, and before long - you're in pederasty.
14:11 mircea_popescu but it WASNT "just friends", as in, not fucking. it was "just friends" as in... i have no fucking idea what, facebook lists ?
14:11 danielpbarron a virtual character on their facebook page basically
14:12 mircea_popescu i suppose this is an idle objeciton, the "no fucking" "just friends" of yore made exactly as little sense.
14:12 danielpbarron not for actually meeting
14:12 ben_vulpes "sure" is probably the least enticing thing you could possibly say in that circumstance lol
14:13 mircea_popescu yeah, that's veering into "i can't drink coffee - it keeps me up" territory.
14:13 mircea_popescu tho...
14:13 mircea_popescu hard to say these days, kids have dynamited historical formalisms without understanding exactly how that'll come back to bite them
14:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform for the record, pederasty is not something that can happen to you by accident. it means fucking young boys.
14:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the other end of pederasty
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14:14 asciilifeform in ru prison parlance.
14:14 mircea_popescu erastes-y ?
14:14 asciilifeform where you sell your arse for a cig.
14:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50100 @ 0.00058545 = 29.331 BTC [+] {3}
14:15 asciilifeform how do you even say 'lowered into pederasty' in englisch.
14:15 asciilifeform 'punked' ?
14:15 mircea_popescu i guess... tho technically it'd be "made into a punk" otherwise it's kind-of ambiguous
14:16 mircea_popescu the anglos do not like to say the things they do not wish to hear.
14:18 mircea_popescu you could say lowered into petuhery, that'd be necessarily transparent as glass.
14:20 mircea_popescu danielpbarron anyway i think what the cascadian is trying to say there is that it's fashionable these days to say something you know, hip and edgy. "nah, we could go pillaging and plundering! arrrr!" or whatever inane bs of the sort.
14:20 danielpbarron well i shortened it for brevity; my actual response was something like "no i'm gonna tie you up and hang you from the rafters, yeah talk"
14:21 mircea_popescu o.O
14:21 mircea_popescu you said that ?!
14:21 danielpbarron yeah. was that bad?
14:21 mircea_popescu now we know how all the "almost raped irl" cases happen irl.
14:21 mircea_popescu buncha impressionable teenagers talk to danielpbarron, fail to see the humour.
14:22 danielpbarron oh she was no teenage, approximately my age
14:22 danielpbarron although mentally who knows
14:22 mircea_popescu the prostitution rests.
14:26 danielpbarron !b 10
14:26 assbot Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/171RDC3.txt )
14:27 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416697 << don't be silly, it did solve it. he came here and complained.
14:27 assbot Logged on 27-02-2016 18:35:59; ben_vulpes: what, reading the logs magically solves the key distribution problem? or do i catastrophically misunderstand.
14:27 mircea_popescu this is correct and functioning as intended.
14:28 ben_vulpes that is not 'reading the logs' that is 'engaging with the forum'
14:28 asciilifeform actually he went to pm, at me, and is very sad, can't get sig to verify for no reason i can ascertain.
14:28 mircea_popescu the beauty of our arrangement being that we actually provide provably-correct, provably-complete solutions to problems that provably can not be formally formulated.
14:28 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes these terms have meanings you distinguish how ?
14:30 ben_vulpes one passive one active?
14:30 mircea_popescu active "talking to the forum" gets people in trouble and passive reading produces the dumb half of every college class.
14:30 mircea_popescu would you like to put in another quarter ?
14:31 ben_vulpes my favorite arcade game -- Wrong About Everything! (tm)
14:31 mircea_popescu lol
14:33 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414470 << on an older thread: code takes at least 2 months to review, financial statements ~6, unless you're in a hurry to give asciilifeform 10 btc, may as well shoot for somewhere in that range.
14:33 assbot Logged on 24-02-2016 19:50:12; mircea_popescu: well lessee here, one of mod6 ben_vulpes give an opinion on this ?
14:33 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes atm i'm just trying to politely temper the fellow's enthusiasm and un-allergenically redirect more of his efforts towards practical if boresome matters.
14:33 mircea_popescu watch me do it :
14:34 mircea_popescu FUCKING SHIT ON A STICK ALF WHERE THE FUCK IS PHUCTOR ALREADY!
14:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: presently in the terminal to the left, slowly postgresqlating
14:34 mircea_popescu mp management wurx.
14:34 asciilifeform aha!
14:34 asciilifeform magic.
14:35 asciilifeform but holy fuck is that thing slow
14:35 asciilifeform astonishing, how ever worked...
14:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74965 @ 0.000587 = 44.0045 BTC [+] {3}
14:36 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: re: that, i answered a while back, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-02-2016#1415070
14:36 assbot Logged on 25-02-2016 01:38:57; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415038 << i suggest that it is done 1) no earlier than 4th 2) no earlier than working cramershouptron is posted 5) paid not to my earthly carcass but to snsa piggy - under whose flag it will be published.
14:37 ben_vulpes i saw
14:38 ben_vulpes in completely other news, the child just rolled over of his own accord for the first time
14:38 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: what did you name the boy anyway
14:38 ben_vulpes is now crowing self-satisfiedly on the floor
14:38 ben_vulpes name? he can't even talk yet.
14:39 asciilifeform l0lk
14:39 ben_vulpes you get a name in this family when you take out your first irs agent
14:41 ben_vulpes cedar levi vulpes, in the grand vulpesian tradition of shit not making any sense whatsoever
14:42 asciilifeform l0l i can see him setting mines for nazi echelons near warsaw or the like.
14:42 asciilifeform somewhere in belorussia.
14:43 ben_vulpes i'm expecting vietnamese-style contact mines launched from a longbow but yes
14:44 asciilifeform l0l bpg
14:44 ben_vulpes bpg?
14:44 asciilifeform bowstrig-propelled-grenade ?
14:44 asciilifeform *string
14:45 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes> you get a name in this family when you take out your first irs agent << bwahahaha
14:45 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: aha yes
14:45 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes so he's going to be chevy to his jr high class ?
14:46 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: to get briefly back to the cramer shoup thing, i am very much curious re: who is going to review it, and how
14:46 ben_vulpes 'cascadian mortar'
14:46 * mircea_popescu reads cedar like the cheese. like in the old country. CHEdar beotch!
14:46 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: lol
14:46 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: in case you slept through the thread, there are no public implementations in the ordinary sense, of whatever kind.
14:46 mircea_popescu i was here.
14:47 mircea_popescu just because my eyes move independently of the head doesn't mean i'm not reading!
14:47 ben_vulpes nono, saw.
14:47 asciilifeform kedr.
14:47 mircea_popescu fucking specieism
14:47 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: add it to the long list of shit that'll need multiple implementations just for testing
14:47 mircea_popescu ^
14:48 mircea_popescu as needed as it may be, a woman takes nine months to produce a cepher no matter how many vulpes are working on her.
14:48 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: think for a minute, about the peculiar nature of crypto.
14:48 mircea_popescu cipher*
14:48 asciilifeform it is not enough that the program - runs.
14:48 mircea_popescu that;s not what he meant omg!
14:48 asciilifeform someone actually has to get off his mathematical arse.
14:48 asciilifeform preferably - more than one someone.
14:49 mircea_popescu sometwo
14:49 ben_vulpes must be two for comparison to be meaningful
14:50 mircea_popescu mno. comparisons of 1 and 3 are meaningful. comparison of two is confusing.
14:50 ben_vulpes and mircea_popescu what jr high classmates lol
14:51 ben_vulpes ah tie problem
14:51 mircea_popescu all joking aside : kids gotta grow up with kids. first few years dun matter, but if he doesn't spend a decade covered in opp starting at about 5 or so he's going to suffer for it.
14:52 asciilifeform opp?
14:52 mircea_popescu this "home education" thing works for me, if and when i decide to knock up two dozen slaves and then produce a litter the size of an average obeast.
14:52 ben_vulpes "other people's progeny"?
14:52 mircea_popescu single father single mother single child home ed is how they ended up needing freud.
14:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform other people's piss.
14:52 asciilifeform ah hm.
14:53 ben_vulpes 'tisn't actually "alone at home" in this part of the world.
14:53 mircea_popescu but you can mentally think of it as part of the "piss and vinegar" doublet if the physiology bothers.
14:53 ben_vulpes tis a healthy wot of "fuck you usg" around here
14:53 mircea_popescu a something like that.
14:53 asciilifeform how does one spend a decade before 5 ?
14:53 asciilifeform is my parser broken ?
14:53 mircea_popescu it is. postifix ?!
14:54 ben_vulpes no "school" per se, but individuals contracted to teach groups of 5, 8, perhaps 10, specific subjects.
14:54 mircea_popescu i hear that's how the founding fathers grew up all weird.
14:54 ben_vulpes parents who know certain subjects teach those. parents with large houses host 1-3 days/wk.
14:55 mircea_popescu check out the jews, made themselves a fucking kibbutz right in the middle of oregon.
14:55 ben_vulpes healthy dose of evangelicals too. broad political spectrum united almost solely by 'no fucking way'.
14:56 mircea_popescu this is for the first time in like a decade i ever remotely felt like visiting that place.
14:56 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: out of curiosity, 'no way' ~what~ specifically
14:56 mircea_popescu no, that's the beauty of it.
14:56 asciilifeform 'no way we will be ruled by pedos in funny hats' ?
14:56 asciilifeform or which is it.
14:56 mircea_popescu "specifically" is the instrument of the devil.
14:56 mircea_popescu you specifically, motherfucker. not me. government doesn't hold the handles of the debate.
14:57 asciilifeform i had no idea ben_vulpes was a pashtun.
14:57 asciilifeform neato.
14:58 asciilifeform this zaps several mysteries in my head.
14:59 mircea_popescu !alf list mysteries
14:59 ben_vulpes yes, which mysteries?
15:00 asciilifeform in this particular case, why offspring
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15:01 mircea_popescu in other face news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/128df28123993d09d38ea880329c8639/tumblr_mjtpa58NGR1ro2gueo1_1280.jpg
15:01 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1T3a4pe )
15:01 mircea_popescu how about her alfie ? still no good ?
15:02 asciilifeform l0l
15:02 ben_vulpes yeesh that's quite a face
15:02 mircea_popescu >D
15:02 asciilifeform this one is instant-hire at the circus, aha.
15:02 ben_vulpes lolclown
15:03 mircea_popescu omfg this is cruel. she's a young woman with perky tits. what do you want!
15:03 mircea_popescu sometimes i suspect i might be the most tolerant of women fellow that ever lived or something.
15:03 ben_vulpes pashtun << not so much ethnic as "don't talk to cops. seriously, don't fucking talk to cops. furthermore, beat up anyone you see talking to cops."
15:04 mircea_popescu ok, fine, how about http://49.media.tumblr.com/afa2f5ceb8c86cbee99dea8b4f7bc183/tumblr_ms96d8vnPV1qlne6uo1_500.gif ?
15:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1WRbPnQ )
15:04 asciilifeform mmmmhmmm
15:04 ben_vulpes "also wouldja re-zip-tie that vagrant that tried to get in last night, bob won't be by with the export wagon for another 2 days"
15:05 ben_vulpes but yes, i would rather live in bootstrapped country squalor in plastic domes than most us cities.
15:06 ben_vulpes http://rigsomelight.com/assets/images/dome.jpg << illustrating, again
15:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1WRc5D4 )
15:06 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: remind me specifically why geodesic
15:07 asciilifeform i mean, it makes sense in a pressure hull
15:07 asciilifeform on, e.g., mars.
15:07 asciilifeform but why here on planet3.
15:07 asciilifeform (i can think of one reason)
15:11 ben_vulpes shortwave for the blockchain, solar panels for time-arbitraged electricity, hole of car batteries for storage
15:11 ben_vulpes the linked dome has an astonishingly low part number, and readily available feedstock.
15:11 ben_vulpes is waterproof by construction
15:12 ben_vulpes (skin as frame)
15:12 ben_vulpes but i'd hope to only use that for bootstrapping.
15:20 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> 'punked' ? << yes
15:22 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> bowstrig-propelled-grenade ? << Rambo
15:23 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: predator?
15:24 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> this is for the first time in like a decade i ever remotely felt like visiting that place. << All Cascadians coalesce to Jewish culture
15:24 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: ? Wasn't bow grendade Rambo First Blood part 2?
15:25 * ben_vulpes wouldn't know, not particularly well versed
15:25 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: That's because Cascadia isn't real 'Murica
15:26 BingoBoingo Also why not swap the car batteries for Chicom FeNi battery bank while one can still be had
15:26 BingoBoingo Or do you want night time geodesic civilization to have an expiration date?
15:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50700 @ 0.00058369 = 29.5931 BTC [-] {2}
15:30 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: all parts will likely need scavenging into existence
15:34 BingoBoingo Or... You get them rather soon-ish
15:34 BingoBoingo brb, homesteading
15:38 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: d'you have a minute to answer shiva questions?
15:40 ben_vulpes tinyscheme still needs renaming to shiva, correct?
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15:46 ben_vulpes http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000201.html << press genesis_fixed, tinyscheme_snip, repl_fix, rename tinyscheme to shiva, recompile yes? asciilifeform phf ^^
15:46 assbot [BTC-dev] Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes, CORRECTED; -and- Shiva Pedigree Bridge. ... ( http://bit.ly/1SfJl8P )
15:46 ben_vulpes also i suppose polarbeard?
15:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126500 @ 0.00058652 = 74.1948 BTC [+] {4}
15:56 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416966 << only if you really wantvto build from the pedigree bridge
15:56 assbot Logged on 27-02-2016 20:40:43; ben_vulpes: tinyscheme still needs renaming to shiva, correct?
15:56 asciilifeform (there is no actual reason to do this more than once per lifetime)
15:57 asciilifeform normally you ought to use the shiva i posted and its bugfix.
15:57 ben_vulpes hm
15:57 asciilifeform when we get a turingcomplete vtron, i will regrind all of my works
15:58 asciilifeform so that this kind of confusion can go away.
15:58 ben_vulpes so i should be able to leave the tinyscheme dir as tinyscheme? or am i screwing up royally in that my patch applications don't result in a shiva dir?
15:58 asciilifeform !s from:asciilifeform pedigree bridge
15:58 assbot 4 results for 'from:asciilifeform pedigree bridge' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aasciilifeform+pedigree+bridge
15:59 asciilifeform !s pedigree bridge
15:59 assbot 15 results for 'pedigree bridge' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=pedigree+bridge
16:01 asciilifeform PLEASE stop trying to press shiva from tinyscheme-bridge folks !!!!11
16:01 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-02-2016#1411369 << i am failing to turn this thread into usable actions
16:01 assbot Logged on 21-02-2016 00:37:21; phf: i can't figure out which patches are actually shiva patches. there's "(EXPERIMENTAL) Introducing: Shiva." and then sometime after there's "Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes, CORRECTED; -and- Shiva Pedigree Bridge."
16:01 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-02-2016#1411371 <<<<<<<<<<<
16:01 assbot Logged on 21-02-2016 00:38:02; asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000201.html << this and this only.
16:02 ben_vulpes yeah, staring at it
16:02 asciilifeform followed by http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000202.html
16:02 assbot [BTC-dev] Shiva bug fix. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pq7ven )
16:03 asciilifeform nm wrong link wtf
16:03 ben_vulpes so to recap: tinyscheme_genesis, tinyscheme_snip, repl_fix, and then flag_bug_fix?
16:03 asciilifeform http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000198.html
16:03 assbot [BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) Introducing: Shiva. ... ( http://bit.ly/1SN6qPP )
16:03 asciilifeform then the bugfix.
16:04 asciilifeform leave tinyscheme genesis alone.
16:05 asciilifeform 1) press a trb
16:05 asciilifeform 2) http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20160128/asciilifeform_shiva_part_1_of_2.vpatch?sha1=8d22942ffc97296845fad81c3a78acfdf54af23a
16:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1VKGDX4 )
16:05 asciilifeform 3 ) http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20160128/asciilifeform_shiva_part_2_of_2.vpatch?sha1=abc9c21e3c86e7a540b20e49a6ebc86017758e48
16:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OfF7pT )
16:06 asciilifeform 4) http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20160131/asciilifeform_shiva_fix_flag_bug.vpatch?sha1=8e9f57bf90fc32f4c3bdd88adfb449edd3b93e3c
16:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1VKGF16 )
16:06 asciilifeform 5) ??? 6) profit
16:06 ben_vulpes thank you for the very explicit directions, asciilifeform .
16:06 asciilifeform np
16:07 * asciilifeform off to meatspace for a spell.
16:07 ben_vulpes before you bail
16:07 asciilifeform hm?
16:07 ben_vulpes was i not to interpret "rebake using the correct v-tron" as "supercedes previous missive"?
16:08 asciilifeform where is this?
16:08 ben_vulpes http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000201.html
16:08 assbot [BTC-dev] Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes, CORRECTED; -and- Shiva Pedigree Bridge. ... ( http://bit.ly/1SfJl8P )
16:08 ben_vulpes >
16:08 ben_vulpes Apply the pedigree bridge path, re-name the directory to shiva, and you get
16:08 ben_vulpes the very same. <<
16:09 asciilifeform this is correct, but it supersedes prev version of ~ts genesis~
16:09 ben_vulpes should have communicated to me that 201 did not supercede 198
16:09 asciilifeform not shiva !!!
16:09 asciilifeform i will explain, hopefully for the last time,
16:10 asciilifeform ts gnesis has
16:10 asciilifeform same rel to shiva as
16:10 asciilifeform 0.5.3 cutter had to chicken.
16:11 asciilifeform it was a forced misery because gnudiff can't rename motherfucking files.
16:11 asciilifeform nor delete.
16:12 asciilifeform makes sense ?
16:15 ben_vulpes i believe so, yes.
16:15 ben_vulpes have fun in meatspace, i'll derp through it.
16:16 * asciilifeform bbl.
16:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52000 @ 0.00058786 = 30.5687 BTC [+] {2}
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17:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58662 @ 0.00058334 = 34.2199 BTC [-] {3}
17:04 ben_vulpes #>(btc-get-best-height)
17:04 ben_vulpes 399924
17:04 ben_vulpes ^^ nifty, asciilifeform! thanks for bearing with my thickness.
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17:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00058586 = 16.7556 BTC [+]
17:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64050 @ 0.00058736 = 37.6204 BTC [+]
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18:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79100 @ 0.00058761 = 46.48 BTC [+] {2}
18:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50093 @ 0.00058789 = 29.4492 BTC [+] {2}
18:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33176 @ 0.00058789 = 19.5038 BTC [+]
18:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45200 @ 0.00058586 = 26.4809 BTC [-]
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18:58 mircea_popescu nice ben_vulpes
18:58 mircea_popescu and omfg fleanode spam!
18:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75861 @ 0.00058586 = 44.4439 BTC [-]
19:00 mircea_popescu !up hsmiths
19:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes and everyone else into supercute de-windows-ization : http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-27.log.html#t23:38:19
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19:05 assbot #Eulora log for Saturday, 2016-02-27 ... ( http://bit.ly/21r0UYp )
19:05 mircea_popescu (read prior and after, lulzy abounds)
19:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28500 @ 0.00058586 = 16.697 BTC [-]
19:17 mircea_popescu and in other "here's my face" news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/8e7e56c4b6c0334a54523406120211ed/tumblr_mjie6rz8Se1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
19:17 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OEdcjH )
19:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31050 @ 0.00058586 = 18.191 BTC [-]
19:37 phf current take is naive, uses a list of digits for presentation and a mul/shift/add approach to multiplication. mostly a poc
19:39 phf i'd like to read knuth chapters for a bit, but aocp warez is surprisingly awful. torrents of pdf scans without table of contents (!!!) and people in comments going "thanks for most useful books evaa!!!". does anybody actually tried using this shit?
19:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74900 @ 0.0005832 = 43.6817 BTC [-] {2}
19:45 phf knuth actually made a version with working crosslinks and table of contents and such, but those cost as much as the printed version and are "personalized". i take it nobody bothered getting rid of watermark and publishing it, or i can't find a copy anyway
19:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57950 @ 0.00058672 = 34.0004 BTC [+] {2}
20:01 BingoBoingo That complete lack of assumptions is very impressive
20:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00058789 = 14.6385 BTC [+]
20:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38279 @ 0.00058789 = 22.5038 BTC [+]
20:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22574 @ 0.00058804 = 13.2744 BTC [+] {2}
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20:30 mircea_popescu lol BingoBoingo
20:30 ben_vulpes satoshi bless the noobs, for they bring lulz and drama.
20:30 ben_vulpes quite the netsplit.
20:35 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Seriously though it is far more refreshing than YAJE, Yet Another Jackoffscript Evangelist
20:35 mircea_popescu aha.
20:35 mircea_popescu guy's actually pretty good, found/fixed small cracks in the wiki etc
20:35 BingoBoingo Maybe point him at TRB documentation after he's done fixing Eulora?
20:36 mircea_popescu lol. may be a long while, eulora took the crown for "most broken republican codebase" sometime this year i think
20:42 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all --currency rmb
20:42 gribble BTCChina BTCRMB last: 2813.01, vol: 38011.01690000 | Volume-weighted last average: 2813.01
20:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00058549 = 12.0025 BTC [-]
20:56 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all --currency gbp
20:57 gribble Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 305.466957, vol: 4200.03059766 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 305.322777, vol: 4186.21487 | CampBX BTCGBP last: 311.4288, vol: 0.46043058 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 308.70326, vol: 38805.73280000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 314.11996, vol: 1.1587369 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 307.32, vol: 44.85189837 | Volume-weighted last average: 308.114787885
20:57 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
20:57 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 422.36, vol: 4208.70566845 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 423.201, vol: 4184.74036 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 422.99, vol: 16453.42615972 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 432.0, vol: 0.46043058 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 428.347821, vol: 38843.33320000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 425.64999, vol: 490.41688409 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 426.348, vol: 44.85189837 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
20:57 BingoBoingo ;;more
20:57 gribble 426.22555256
21:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35800 @ 0.00058549 = 20.9605 BTC [-]
21:14 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: what's the thinking behind using IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK in shiva.cpp?
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21:15 ben_vulpes i thought we considered that glass left on the floor for barefoot burglars
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21:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57900 @ 0.00058922 = 34.1158 BTC [+] {3}
21:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58269 @ 0.00058451 = 34.0588 BTC [-] {3}
21:46 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2016/02/2015-irs-breach-estimate-revised-upwards-to-720000-records/ << Pls to confirm I used the correct Bre(a/e)ch
21:46 assbot 2015 IRS Breach Estimate Revised Upwards To 720,000 Records | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1QmSbvR )
21:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23905 @ 0.00058947 = 14.0913 BTC [+]
21:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28595 @ 0.0005901 = 16.8739 BTC [+] {5}
21:49 ben_vulpes asciilifeform (phf, adlai, mod6_, mod6): okay this is grand and i can see several rpc commands trivially slain in this vein, and others with application of work. but but but! would someone send me a map for running /scheme/ code from within satoshis abortion?
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21:50 mircea_popescu :)
21:51 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i guess i'm just going to add "this is good for fiat" comments from now on.
21:51 phf ben_vulpes: depends on what you're trying to do
21:51 mircea_popescu by 2020 or so, if i do at least 10-20k a day, we might be caught up
21:52 ben_vulpes phf: i don't quite know yet. i'm just barely a code-technician, creativity and imagination's another 5-7 years off for me.
21:52 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: lol
21:52 * ben_vulpes afk for a bit, if not the eve
21:55 ben_vulpes phf: mebbe rewrite the syncing loop?
21:57 ben_vulpes ;;later tell trinque BEHOLD http://www.businessinsider.com/meta-glasses-could-be-future-of-work-2016-2?r=DE&IR=T
21:57 assbot Meta glasses could be future of work - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1QmSl6q )
21:57 gribble The operation succeeded.
22:07 mircea_popescu speaking of box-chess : http://41.media.tumblr.com/1bf6111f15b131dbef04c23c3b19e74d/tumblr_mf8kskjRLp1s0gddxo1_1280.jpg
22:07 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QmSBCs )
22:07 mircea_popescu there's the box, and there's the chess.
22:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52350 @ 0.00059064 = 30.92 BTC [+] {3}
22:12 phf ben_vulpes: so the way thing works right now, is that when you connect a new instance of scheme runtime is created, which is then fed init.scm and connected to the network stream fd. right now the pattern that we have is from inside a running instance you can call out into trb and make it do things
22:13 BingoBoingo http://www.t-platforms.ru/about-company/press-releases/625--25022016.html
22:14 assbot Новости компании - 25.02.2016 ... ( http://bit.ly/1T3gW60 )
22:15 BingoBoingo From Google Transgrish: "Due to hardware accelerators supporting GOST 28147-89, processors "Baikal-T1" have certified compatibility with software and hardware encryption tools. At present the work as part of AWS "Meadowsweet terminal" preparing several Russian means of information protection. The company develops InfoTeKS for "Tavolgi" customized solution based on the constructor protected ViPNet network, designed for the safe ope
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22:15 BingoBoingo ration of VPN and PKI services. The company CRYPTO-PRO adapts crypto CryptoPro SSP, are widely used, in particular, for the authorization of electronic signatures in the documents. Adaptation also tested cryptographic USB-tokens Rutoken S and Rutoken electronic signature for secure two-factor authentication in computer systems and storage of key information."
22:17 BingoBoingo Apparently shipping Q2 2016
22:19 phf ben_vulpes: in order to support any sort of rewrite of existing code, need to figure out how to have scheme runtime created at bitcoind start and that runtime allowing for reentry
22:24 phf which requires a better understanding of how ts's stack work, or perhaps figuring out how to make multiple scheme instances share same oblist or something
22:26 phf i think ascii short term plan is specifically rewrite of rpc, because it's an easily achievable low hanging fruit, which when done completely will let us get rid of json/http
22:28 ben_vulpes > allowing for reentry << bleeee
22:28 ben_vulpes okay i'll leave that and the slime work to the real artisans
22:30 phf also the whole thing is not thread safe...
22:31 phf but then i also tend to overthink things, for all i know there's a perfectly trivial solution to all things
22:33 ben_vulpes hey
22:33 ben_vulpes hey phf
22:33 ben_vulpes how bout dem clang scripts
22:33 ben_vulpes ;)
22:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109392 @ 0.00059085 = 64.6343 BTC [+] {3}
22:34 phf well, i can give you half baked version ;)
22:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35058 @ 0.0005911 = 20.7228 BTC [+] {2}
22:35 phf ben_vulpes: http://paste.lisp.org/display/308410
22:35 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1T3hiti )
22:37 ben_vulpes #> (btc_connections)
22:37 ben_vulpes 0
22:37 ben_vulpes dash/hyphen conventions alive, ^^ asciilifeform, phf, mod6_, mircea_popescu
22:37 ben_vulpes s/alive/aside
22:38 ben_vulpes nifty, phf!
22:38 phf 1) brew install cmake 2) patch < foo.patch 3) link_directories and include_directories in CMakeList.txt need to point to be modified to point to your boost/db4/openssl locations 4) mkdir foo; cd foo; cmake ..; make
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22:39 ben_vulpes v. cool
22:39 ben_vulpes yeah i imagined that running buildroot wouldn't make sense on a bsdalike
22:42 phf well, after my eulora travails i can trivially build anything on mac os x with homebrew (thanks mp!), in this case there's not even a need to fuck around since b-a approved versions of dependencies have brew formulas for them
22:43 ben_vulpes you're a real rubro now phf!
22:44 ben_vulpes anyways, rather neet. looking forward to shortening my loop up.
22:44 ben_vulpes i'm off to waft the child through hipstergenic clouds of pot smoke
22:45 phf i'm going to have some kefir and decompress from the day
22:46 phf i might even produce some instructions for a heathen build using brew/clang/cmake
22:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00059146 = 8.9015 BTC [+]
23:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00059183 = 15.0917 BTC [+] {2}
23:08 mircea_popescu phf> i think ascii short term plan is specifically rewrite of rpc, because it's an easily achievable low hanging fruit, which when done completely will let us get rid of json/http << quite.
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23:14 BingoBoingo !up iinaj
23:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111550 @ 0.00059237 = 66.0789 BTC [+] {2}
23:25 mircea_popescu lol yw
23:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58800 @ 0.00059237 = 34.8314 BTC [+]
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23:57 BingoBoingo Justice Porn from 2013. Take away ashtrays as part of a pretend smoking ban, Fuck you get litter: https://archive.is/61rRZ
23:57 assbot Mizzou Stream Team to hold outdoor clean-up events at local waterways – The Maneater ... ( http://bit.ly/1oGNd64 )
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23:58 BingoBoingo Wait, wrong one
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