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00:00 renart just like ubuntu, totally adequate for 94% of use cases, and entirely inadequate for the remaining 6%
00:01 renart but you know your taleb and tail risk right?
00:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00049201 = 8.9546 BTC [+] {2}
00:03 renart Google is working to make the vehicles more “aggressive” like humans << were it not for drag-induced inefficiencies this'd result in 80 MPH highways the typical "$500 dollar car" owner'd not be able to cope with, much less get insured to drive on
00:05 danielpbarron !up harrymoreno
00:06 danielpbarron with any luck they'll program those cars to move out of my way when i come up behind them in the passing lane
00:12 BingoBoingo http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2015/12/15/lets-see-the-red-stuff-or-the-green-stuff
00:12 assbot Let’s See: The Red Stuff or the Green Stuff? | In the Pipeline ... ( http://bit.ly/1JfLYic )
00:16 punkman I've seen those
00:19 punkman http://www.wired.com/2015/12/big-tech-joins-big-banks-to-create-alternative-to-bitcoins-blockchain/
00:19 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Icw4KE )
00:19 punkman "Overseen by the not-for-profit Linux Foundation"
00:19 asciilifeform ahahahahaha
00:20 punkman "“The current blockchain is a great design pattern,” says Jerry Cuomo, vice president and chief technology officer of IBM’s software group. “Now, how do we make that real for business?"
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00:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52600 @ 0.00049221 = 25.8902 BTC [+]
00:22 asciilifeform phreeeeee mark3t competition for candidacy to Offficial usgcoin (tm) (r) (c) !!111
00:23 asciilifeform see, everybody who expected that it'd be simply commissioned from 'lockheed' or similar, doesn't understand Phreeeeedom !1
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00:24 asciilifeform btw, mircea_popescu, ever ask torvalds why he doesn't shutter 'linux foundation' for pissing on ~his~ trademark ?
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00:25 punkman "Patrick Byrne has been worried that the big Wall Street banks would “circle the wagons,” creating tech that locks everyone else out. But because IBM’s new project is open source—because anyone can use it and contribute to it—he’s pleased. He believes in more than a single technology. He believes in a big idea. “I’m not wed to bitcoin’s blockchain,” he says. “I’m blockchain agnostic.”
00:26 punkman http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2015/12/linux-foundation-unites-industry-leaders-advance-blockchain
00:26 assbot Linux Foundation Unites Industry Leaders to Advance Blockchain Technology ... ( http://bit.ly/1JfMYCZ )
00:27 asciilifeform 'The Linux Foundation, the nonprofit organization enabling mass innovation through open source, today announced a new collaborative effort to advance the popular blockchain technology. The project will develop an enterprise grade, open source distributed ledger framework and free developers to focus on building robust, industry-specific applications, platforms and hardware systems to support business transactions. Early commit
00:27 asciilifeform ments to this work come from Accenture, ANZ Bank, Cisco, CLS, Credits, Deutsche Börse, Digital Asset Holdings, DTCC, Fujitsu Limited, IC3, IBM, Intel, J.P. Morgan, London Stock Exchange Group, Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group (MUFG), R3, State Street, SWIFT, VMware and Wells Fargo.'
00:27 punkman https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/gcuomo/entry/The_Force_of_Blockchain_Awakens?lang=en check out the cross promotion :P
00:27 assbot The Force Awakens (Into the wild BLUE yonder!) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JfN39A )
00:27 asciilifeform lulzy, pretty much whole lizard committee
00:30 trinque "I’m blockchain agnostic." << Bitcoin doesn't know (or care) whether you exist either.
00:30 danielpbarron "There is no one blockchain to rule them all. There will be multiple implementations of the blockchain. And it will be a sin if they don't interoperate and work together."
00:31 asciilifeform 'The Linux Foundation and Linux Standard Base are trademarks of The Linux Foundation. Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds.' << how the fuq does this work
00:31 asciilifeform i cannot help but conclude that torvalds could pull this plug any time he likes
00:31 asciilifeform and that his failure to do so - is complicity.
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00:35 BingoBoingo Spoiler alert http://qntra.net/2015/12/fake-star-wars-torrents-already-popping-up-on-trackers/#comment-83881
00:35 assbot Fake Star Wars Torrents Already Popping Up On Trackers | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1JfNGQH )
00:35 punkman OpenTransactions really missed out on selling to all these derps
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00:36 punkman but they didn't have "blockchain"
00:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00049237 = 4.4313 BTC [+] {2}
00:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59826 @ 0.00049248 = 29.4631 BTC [+] {2}
00:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108049 @ 0.00049489 = 53.4724 BTC [+] {3}
00:38 punkman http://stashcrypto.com/how-it-works/ neat
00:38 assbot Stash · How it works ... ( http://bit.ly/1Icx813 )
00:39 asciilifeform Users can store their funds securely in our innovative and unique multisig voting pools, enabling users to perform fast, low cost, off-blockchain transactions, without having to trust anyone to hold the money! With theft-proof funds and fraud-proof receipts, our platform is the only acceptable solution ...' << wai wat
00:40 asciilifeform the 'multi-sig' idiocy is clinton's key escrow plain and simple
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00:40 asciilifeform yes, 'they can't spend your coin' but neither can you without usg's permission.
00:41 asciilifeform quite possibly, hitler is willing to settle for this.
00:43 asciilifeform and notice the implicit attempt to paint actual bitcoin as non-'theft-proof' and non-'fraud-proof'
00:43 punkman bitcoin vouchers will have their uses
00:43 asciilifeform dildo with razor blade rose embedded will have its uses
00:44 trinque speaking of clinton's day, the "ban that encryption stuff" grows to a dull roar lately in the media.
00:44 * trinque wonders if they can form sentences well enough in congress to actually write a law remotely related
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00:45 asciilifeform trinque: this brought to you by the ministry-of-let'em-think-they-haven't-been-owned-yet
00:46 trinque I begin to believe they're just targeting the intelligent outright as a matter of.. what do you call it... full spectrum domination?
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01:56 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
01:56 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 463.01, vol: 8536.50661148 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 456.349, vol: 7918.4791 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 463.54, vol: 17065.38512498 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 449.0, vol: 0.37 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 476.0152, vol: 82459.65750000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 464.0, vol: 62.90860505 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 444.503097, vol: 29.25204691 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
01:57 BingoBoingo ;;more
01:57 gribble 471.868422202
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04:41 BingoBoingo Aspies discuss real life https://archive.is/CqFQl
04:41 assbot Why do some players spawn with debuffs? : outside ... ( http://bit.ly/1MkGuCM )
04:44 BingoBoingo "I wish the devs were as active as they were in beta. Things got out of hand one time and all active players, save two, were permabanned over the course of a 40 day ban spree. The two remaining players survived due to a workaround and built the community back up."
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05:07 punkman http://spreadsheetsapp.com/img/stats.png
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07:56 mircea_popescu !up DerpUnion
07:57 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346158 << aha. i'm aware.
07:57 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 04:27:41; asciilifeform: as in, not only did folks get $15k or whatever creditcard-level investment for, what, 20% cut, but had to ~live~ in the compound
07:57 mircea_popescu they're actually a pretty good study into "what not to do".
07:58 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346169 << let me guess :that key flaw is that computers are chickenshits.
07:58 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 04:59:42; assbot: Humans Are Slamming Into Driverless Cars and Exposing a Key Flaw - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1JfL05y )
08:02 mircea_popescu heh check it out, i was exactly right.
08:02 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346171 << no no you don't understand how government works. "it was never its fault".
08:02 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 04:59:51; renart: 2x the human accident rate
08:04 mircea_popescu now we finally understand the deep driver behind the "it's ok to be fat in the subway, it's not ok to sit comfortably. eating doesn't cause obesity, it's genetic, notwithstanding no single "genetic" obese dude in all those auschwitz pics ; meanwhile smoking causes cancer, it's not genetic and it's especially not the sad result of all the crap industry puts in the tobacco and also mark twain didn't smoke two railcars' w
08:04 mircea_popescu orth over 80 years!"
08:04 mircea_popescu the real driver isn't that USG wants to favour women over men.
08:04 mircea_popescu the real driver is that the USG is much more adequate to governing robots than people. that women are more robot-like than men is just biological happenstance
08:05 mircea_popescu (if you have two genders and gender dysmorphisms, for any objective measure you'll have one gender closer and the other further, no matter what.)
08:10 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346186 <<< bwahahaha. mmmkay.
08:10 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 05:20:48; punkman: "“The current blockchain is a great design pattern,” says Jerry Cuomo, vice president and chief technology officer of IBM’s software group. “Now, how do we make that real for business?"
08:10 mircea_popescu YOU are not business, schmuckaroos. WE are business. you're a quaint historical accident.
08:10 mircea_popescu now get out of the way before you gotta bleed for it.
08:11 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346190 << no.
08:11 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 05:24:47; asciilifeform: btw, mircea_popescu, ever ask torvalds why he doesn't shutter 'linux foundation' for pissing on ~his~ trademark ?
08:11 mircea_popescu punkman:
08:11 mircea_popescu "Patrick Byrne has been worried that the big Wall Street banks would “circle the wagons,” creating tech that locks everyone else out. << ever since reading all about it on trilema hurr durr.
08:12 mircea_popescu all these original thinkers, it's a fascinating world.
08:13 mircea_popescu anyway, asciilifeform, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-11-2015#1332899 and for that matter http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-10-2015#1289556
08:13 assbot Logged on 28-11-2015 16:33:08; mircea_popescu: anyway, my data seems to suggest that the enemy will be pushing a fork before the decade's out. whether we at that time have a counterfork ready or not is pretty much what decides the fate of the free world.
08:13 assbot Logged on 01-10-2015 08:53:51; mircea_popescu: if this keeps up ima have to fork the pisschain.
08:14 mircea_popescu lo and behold, the log that nobody reads changes the world. it's not a matter of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346189 ; it's a matter of "that asshole already said something, either we move now or we're fucked, at least if history is any guide. it is."
08:14 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 05:23:35; asciilifeform: see, everybody who expected that it'd be simply commissioned from 'lockheed' or similar, doesn't understand Phreeeeedom !1
08:15 mircea_popescu and so now they gotta make this forced mistake. all the better.
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08:16 mircea_popescu the war was getting expanded to "linux" anyway. fuck them and their stupid foundation, and torvalds can do exactly what sipa could have done : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-05-2015#1147837
08:16 assbot Logged on 29-05-2015 23:16:21; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell sipa if you want to join #b-a and actually work on bitcoin for a change, i'll rate you so you can voice.
08:16 mircea_popescu ditch the idiots and come here on his own fucking motor power. i'm not going to ask him anything, the most i might do is nod.
08:16 mircea_popescu time for the irresponsible, delusionally-secure "coders" to figure out they live in a world, and whether they're interested in this aspect or not is perfectly irrelevant.
08:18 mircea_popescu same exact deal as for that de raadt fellow, or that auerheimer fellow, or everyone else actually.
08:22 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346203 << as far as the eventual tmsr freisler is concerned, absolutely it is. otherwise, it's just stupidity. "oh, nothing bad could ever happen to me i'm just researching". yeah, right. that is TOTALLY how it works.
08:22 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 05:31:59; asciilifeform: and that his failure to do so - is complicity.
08:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74200 @ 0.00048897 = 36.2816 BTC [+] {2}
08:24 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346206 << open transactions was basically psychopathy spread on wonderbread.
08:24 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 05:35:52; punkman: OpenTransactions really missed out on selling to all these derps
08:25 * mircea_popescu reviewed them in 2012. the answer was, come to think of it, very much like monero's. (oh hurr durr we're visionarily important and lalaal). so i decided to give them all the time they could possibly need to figure shit out and well...
08:26 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346214 << myeah.
08:26 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 05:40:17; asciilifeform: the 'multi-sig' idiocy is clinton's key escrow plain and simple
08:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2224 @ 0.00048898 = 1.0875 BTC [+]
08:27 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346221 << seems the process they settled on is to write many thousands of pages, not as much on the theory that hey, eventually something in there will close (much like the random-wiring approach to making cpus), but moreover on the theory that then they can ACT as if it did, and you're welcome to challenge heh heh.
08:27 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 05:44:38; *: trinque wonders if they can form sentences well enough in congress to actually write a law remotely related
08:30 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346223 << this is exactly correct, by the way. either the recent lafond piece or else your own familiarity with the ghetto will readily inform you that police activity is not directed at preventing theft or damage, but simply at preventing the emergence of large or powerful organisations that might in any way or to any degree challenge the sovereignity of the usg itself.
08:30 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 05:46:20; trinque: I begin to believe they're just targeting the intelligent outright as a matter of.. what do you call it... full spectrum domination?
08:30 mircea_popescu in this paradigm, it is not so important that there's mass theft or rape, just that there's no organized power behind it.
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08:30 mircea_popescu obviouisly if there WERE such a power, the actual damage actual working people suffered would be minimal, but this is at no point a consideration.
08:31 mircea_popescu the same exact process used in "policing" the ghetto, at the taxpayer's expense but in the usg's own private benefit is also what the us military does abroad. the point isn't for iraq to functyion or not, the point is for there to not exist any gaddafi's. let the euros deal with the fallout, what, that's what the castrated suckers are there for anyway.
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08:33 mircea_popescu between mob-run ny, which functions smoothly and is culturally relevant and ghetto-choked baltimore, which does not function and is culturally irrelevant, the usg will pick the second every time.
08:34 mircea_popescu and the chief instrument of this picking is "raising awareness". do you care that random IT offed another random IT ? no, because "hey, we only off each other". but maybe you should! if you were to care, how many wonderful things would become possible - none of which wonderful for you.
08:41 mircea_popescu "Although I would say that I am reasonably well connected, have many startup CEO friends, go to events and am regularly speaking to mentors, no one ever sat down with me and systematically challenged me about the Dinnr concept."
08:41 mircea_popescu bwahahah. so.then.why.bother. omfg.
08:44 mircea_popescu "I really would have needed a critic who said:" /me points out to Michal Bohanes that he has published no ready means of contact. not that it matters, you'll see your name in google next you look for it. anyway : next fucking time, ask #b-a.
08:44 mircea_popescu "oh, i've went to all the witch doctors i could find, none of them knew anything" "have you tried the hospital ?" "wut"
08:45 mircea_popescu https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*wPLU7gDCteixEADV8NuZwQ.png << if there's a cartoon that captures this place...
08:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PddALi )
08:46 mircea_popescu "Having such detailed feedback wouldn’t require diving into the data, but having someone spend an hour stress-testing my thinking and assumptions would have been gold dust and could have prevented a lot of effort wasted. I’m sure I’d have gotten that had Dinnr been accepted into accelerator programmes such as Seedcamp, TechStars or Wayra. But absent a full-time co-founder, we weren’t eligible for the former two
08:46 mircea_popescu and narrowly missed the entry into the latter."
08:47 mircea_popescu motherfucker. "this stupid shit i did never works - clearly i must do more of it. surely if 5 grand worth of advertising is a waste, 5 mn is just the ticket. obviously every article in every "media outlet" i ever read that fell within my field of competence was below stupid, but clearly the way to inform oneself is to read more fishwraps."
08:47 mircea_popescu what the everloving fuck is wrong with people already.
08:48 mircea_popescu "No Deus ex Machina will come and challenge you in the right spots. This is why you got your own experience, both theoretical (those startup books DO help!) and practical for. You have to do it yourself."
08:49 mircea_popescu right-o. because the one thing we're truly committed to, beyond anything and everything else, is that there MUST NOT BE any god in the god damned machine. what if there were and he started spewing death warrants and whatnot! no, no, gimme lukewarm mediocrity as a prior and let's see how well i do!
08:57 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346286 << from the linked turd looks rather more like an altcoin than a fork
08:57 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 13:15:12; mircea_popescu: and so now they gotta make this forced mistake. all the better.
08:57 asciilifeform !s usgcoin
08:57 assbot 6 results for 'usgcoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=usgcoin
08:58 asciilifeform !s taxcoin
08:58 assbot 7 results for 'taxcoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=taxcoin
08:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74000 @ 0.00049512 = 36.6389 BTC [+] {3}
08:59 mircea_popescu it looks like trying to suck all the imbecile "talent"
08:59 mircea_popescu you know, the kind that can't leave "the country".
09:00 mircea_popescu it's stupid, but it's exactly in line with how usg is stupid, so no big surprises here. by all means, they should have 'em.
09:00 * mircea_popescu is vaguely pleased that the war of the worlds is actually played out in the central ideological core of those worlds in question.
09:00 asciilifeform not often do all the maggots come together to build one single maggot castle
09:00 mircea_popescu if i had a goal, this'd definitely have been it.
09:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform "fiecare pasare pre limba ei piere" being the romanian expression.
09:01 mircea_popescu "every bird dies in its own tongue"
09:02 mircea_popescu "For these and other such moments, for the opportunity of having worked with a fabulous team and dedicated investors, it was worth doing it all.
09:02 mircea_popescu Even those miserable moments in January 2014, cycling through the icy rain to buy a single lemon, returning back to the dank cold warehouse, staring at the Dinnr backend, waiting in vain for orders to arrive."
09:02 mircea_popescu heh.
09:03 mircea_popescu the destruction self-imposed blindness wreaks upon the lives of the wilfully blind is a pretty sad sight huh.
09:04 asciilifeform kakobrekla et al: zoolag is back. (at least until it exhausts its disk)
09:05 kakobrekla cool
09:06 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTxmkt5WEAEVVRc.jpg << herp. i'm taking bets.
09:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pdg5gE )
09:06 asciilifeform and iiiiinterestingly:
09:06 asciilifeform bitcoind oomkilled on bucephalus on Dec 17 23:13 (EST)
09:07 asciilifeform this was a box with 4GB. 88 days endurance total.
09:07 asciilifeform (contiguous)
09:07 mircea_popescu is this v-based or disused core ?
09:07 asciilifeform v
09:07 asciilifeform whythefuq would i core
09:08 mircea_popescu core never gets that far. not ever.
09:08 * mircea_popescu has set the goal at 30 days w/o oomkill on 16gb box, and even that took some engineering.
09:09 asciilifeform bucephalus is running v-(asciilifeform spearhead press)-stator
09:10 asciilifeform or hm, let me check to make sure
09:10 asciilifeform so technically yes and no
09:10 asciilifeform it is running same code, but built prior to first v release.
09:10 mircea_popescu hehe
09:10 mircea_popescu so maybe good opportunity to rebuild ?
09:10 asciilifeform aha
09:13 asciilifeform actually bucephalus for now will continue as is. dulap, on the other hand, will serve up fresh v+musl tonight.
09:14 asciilifeform it's been a year+ and we still leak motherfucking memory
09:15 * asciilifeform blows dust off alexandrescu
09:20 mircea_popescu did you ever find the time to look into jurov's BN_copy/operator= stuff ?
09:21 mircea_popescu !up magnus__
09:27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha. but so far not able to replicate his result
09:27 mircea_popescu me either ;/
09:27 asciilifeform might help if jurov actually posted his methods
09:30 liquidassets To MP w/<3 https://youtu.be/bzJoNopvr_E
09:30 assbot Don Juan Matus -- The 4 natural enemies of a man of knowledge - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Yq0OcP )
09:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66118 @ 0.00049537 = 32.7529 BTC [+] {2}
09:30 mircea_popescu is there a transcript ?
09:31 mircea_popescu "The dating continued a couple of times more: I was definitely attracted by the innovation of the product (mining and mapping networks of Web content)."
09:31 mircea_popescu holy shit the innovation...
09:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00049187 = 17.4122 BTC [-] {2}
09:34 asciilifeform https://cryptome.org/2015/12/cellphone-spy-equip.pdf << cryptome still alive ? and the document is misnamed, it is a long and lulzy spy radio / survey catalogue
09:34 liquidassets http://dpaste.com/1S99HCV
09:34 assbot dpaste: 1S99HCV: The 4 Natural Enemies of a Man of Knowledge, by liquidassets ... ( http://bit.ly/1PdkNLn )
09:34 asciilifeform rather than just cellphone crud
09:35 mircea_popescu liquidassets bless you. lessee
09:39 liquidassets Wheels turning...The only lease I have that I'm aware of is to myself
09:39 mircea_popescu liquidassets very good. good enough to sign on, actually, even though I've not written it myself.
09:39 mircea_popescu who did ?
09:40 liquidassets The thing I linked?
09:41 mircea_popescu yes
09:41 mircea_popescu minor exceptions, such as "No. Once a man gives in he is through." << not so for a woman.
09:41 liquidassets Looks like Carlos Castaneda
09:41 mircea_popescu i c
09:42 liquidassets Not sure where I first found it/read it, it wasn't on the internet, but wasn't a book either...
09:42 mircea_popescu lol. what, was it in a dream ?
09:42 liquidassets Isn't that why you teach them though MP?
09:42 liquidassets teach//beat
09:44 mircea_popescu complicated.
09:44 liquidassets Wait,, searching for "No. Once a man gives in he is through"
09:46 liquidassets Stubborn creatures but I cannot blame them...dealing with bullshit their entire lives
09:46 mircea_popescu "One of the failures was clearly the will to spend all the money rather than to spend it wisely. " << ehehehe.
09:46 liquidassets And it really gets interesting when you move 'out of the bedroom' and into "real life"
09:47 mircea_popescu morpheus : there is no bedroom.
09:47 mircea_popescu "Barcelona’s Mobile World Congress 2012: I remember seing nice pictures of nice cocktails and nice restaurants from the business developers; I remember seing lots of appointments with potential customers; I remember it ended up with no customer but a partnership; I still do not know the cost of the operation, even as a cofounder." awww.
09:48 liquidassets LOL did he say that?? If not I'd like to see THAT one
09:48 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346305 << the corollary of this is that usg luuuvvvs mass theft and rape SO LONG AS it is carried out by disorganized 'brownian motion' monkeys
09:48 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 13:30:29; mircea_popescu: in this paradigm, it is not so important that there's mass theft or rape, just that there's no organized power behind it.
09:48 mircea_popescu https://oncletom.io/2014/why-our-startup-failed/ <
09:48 assbot Why our startup failed — oncletom.io ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pdnyfv )
09:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i think the love and hate part are mixed in about even proportions
09:49 mircea_popescu (on occasion monkey rapes patty hearst into doe-eyed submission, for instance)
09:49 asciilifeform in much the same way as a hunter loves deer
09:49 mircea_popescu mno.
09:49 liquidassets But exactly was my point with her. She wanted it 'just in the bedroom' and eventually it got to be, well, what's this thought that your life DOESN"T reflect it...
09:49 mircea_popescu in muich the same way cancer patient loves cancer
09:49 mircea_popescu "hey, at least it's getting me morphine and all this attention"
09:50 mircea_popescu liquidassets what her is this ?
09:50 mircea_popescu "but it will necessarily kill you eventually" "yeah well... not today, buster"
09:51 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346307 << this is brzezinski's controlled chaos (tm). but of course dates to the ancients.
09:51 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 13:31:51; mircea_popescu: the same exact process used in "policing" the ghetto, at the taxpayer's expense but in the usg's own private benefit is also what the us military does abroad. the point isn't for iraq to functyion or not, the point is for there to not exist any gaddafi's. let the euros deal with the fallout, what, that's what the castrated suckers are there for anyway.
09:51 mod6 <+asciilifeform> might help if jurov actually posted his methods << yes, please do. you're doing good work, many thanks.
09:51 liquidassets It's just a her now, a former. High maintenance, very hard to please..Constantly disappointed.
09:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you will notice this is a desperation play (or, conversely, the result of decay)
09:51 mircea_popescu nobody ever does this intentionally.
09:52 liquidassets so I disappointed her, because that's what she was
09:52 jurov mod6 asciilifeform yes putting it together but it needs good writeup
09:52 mircea_popescu liquidassets bitchiness in females is an unerring honest signal that the male they're paired with is short testosterone.
09:52 mircea_popescu perhaps this yields true in humans too.
09:52 asciilifeform jurov: neato
09:52 liquidassets Yep, I see it
09:53 liquidassets I like to think that I'm blowing her mind right now
09:54 jurov http://www.explo.yt/memgraph-fs8.png ;)
09:54 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PdoFvN )
09:55 mircea_popescu jurov where's .yt again ?
09:55 funkenstein_ 14:30:56 mircea_popescu: is there a transcript ? <-- just so happens there is http://frass.woodcoin.org/the-four-enemies-of-knowledge/
09:55 assbot The four enemies of knowledge | Free your Frass ... ( http://bit.ly/1PdoRew )
09:56 mircea_popescu funkenstein_ neat. he produced a dpaste too.
09:56 jurov mircea_popescu:it's coupla french rocks in some ocean
09:56 mircea_popescu anyway, liked it a lot.
09:56 mircea_popescu jurov there's clearly something there, just, we aren't finding it is all.
09:57 jurov hehe
09:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77499 @ 0.00048882 = 37.8831 BTC [-] {2}
09:59 mod6 <+jurov> mod6 asciilifeform yes putting it together but it needs good writeup << awesome, thx.
10:00 mod6 <+jurov> http://www.explo.yt/memgraph-fs8.png ;) << aha! ok, yeah, looks like you're on the trail of something there.
10:00 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PdoFvN )
10:01 asciilifeform unfortunately, the graph does not say very much - a node plugged into a slow pipe will look quite like the green chart
10:01 asciilifeform the desired chart is where we get a ramp and an ~eternal~ mostly planar region
10:01 asciilifeform (tx pool is kept full)
10:02 asciilifeform full but not overflowing omg turds everywhere !111111
10:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i suspect that a lot of the leaks are chained
10:02 asciilifeform i'm quite certain of this.
10:02 mircea_popescu if we manage to cut three chains we'll cut out twelve to seventeen different leak sources sorta thing
10:03 asciilifeform i did narrow it down to tx
10:03 mircea_popescu some of which aren't even permanent (ie, subtle sorts of bugs, that only leak 100kb every other six hours once maybe, sorta thing)
10:03 asciilifeform ( http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html )
10:03 assbot [BTC-dev] Results of First 'Deterministic Sync' Experiment, With Memory Consumption Plots. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKmuPH )
10:03 mircea_popescu aha.
10:03 mircea_popescu in fairness tho, that node never sent txn (this is in the plan, eventually, to have a sort of dust-sender just to see what it does to memory)
10:04 liquidassets Thanks funkenstein_ I tried to dpaste it. the youtube must be an abridged version
10:04 mircea_popescu "We granted a lot of discounts to get customers on board. For the sake of signing new and more cyclic contracts afterwards. The contracts never happened." luller.
10:05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i see ~generating~ a tx as a job for a specially-crafted box running from ROM and powered down immediately after
10:05 mircea_popescu here's a hint : if the woman's not willing to suck your cock to impress you on the first date, she's not gonna be willing to suck it three years in.
10:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the goal in that line wouldn't be the same "make better code", just, find any holes.
10:05 mircea_popescu you know, the grub2 variety.
10:06 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: incidentally a good bit of the 'startup' nonsense makes more sense when you realize that they weren't trying to get legit customers at all, but further chumps^H^H^H^H^Hinvestors
10:06 mircea_popescu this is a hollow realisation.
10:06 asciilifeform who like, or at least were thought to like, faux contracts / 'partnerships' etc
10:07 mircea_popescu so the shaman isn't ordering the clouds to cover the sun and sprout forth rain, but instead is commanding the crows to stop eating the cloud seeds so the clouds may spring forth etc ?
10:07 mircea_popescu hurr.
10:07 funkenstein_ liquidassets, if you have trouble finding any of the 10 books in the series let me know :)
10:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha!
10:07 asciilifeform (only a psychiatrist could possibly care, but there it is)
10:08 mircea_popescu "Intelligence is caused by big feet; obesity by genetics" lol ima end up reading this blog huh.
10:08 mircea_popescu i thought large penii were caused by big feet
10:09 funkenstein_ lol correlated i'll bet
10:09 funkenstein_ saw you mention the genetic hurr durr earlier today :D
10:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39459 @ 0.00048602 = 19.1779 BTC [-] {4}
10:09 asciilifeform strangely there are, afaik, no obese penii
10:10 mircea_popescu clearly you've never been a woman.
10:10 asciilifeform did not say 'excessive', but 'obese' as in fat
10:10 mircea_popescu here's a fun fact : about half the actual rapes (not hurr durr i'm on social media and bored) require a fourchette stitch.
10:10 mircea_popescu oh. as in fat what, fat deposits on the penis ?!
10:11 asciilifeform aha
10:11 shinohai finally on block 378213
10:11 mircea_popescu you'll get fatty liver before you get fatty penis.
10:11 asciilifeform shinohai: where
10:11 shinohai On my shitty node latest with mod6 's v
10:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78409 @ 0.00049559 = 38.8587 BTC [+] {5}
10:12 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: seems unsurprising, sorta like the scratches on the keyhole of a lock owned by a drunk
10:13 asciilifeform (as seen in one of the sherlock holmes tales)
10:13 asciilifeform this re: stitches
10:15 mircea_popescu no. it's that a lot of [actual] rapists have uncomfortably large penises, but also the oversexed traits to go with them
10:16 mircea_popescu which is why functioning brothels kill rape [actual rape].
10:16 mircea_popescu but anyway, back to castrato issues : "Waiting for customers, waiting for customers to make a decision, hoping a customer will say yes, waiting for the customer to sign the check after saying yes is a very long process. During this time, your company has to pay for expenses, costs and salaries." <<< jesus christ these people. why the fuck would you think a start-up is even a business at all if those customers are doin
10:16 mircea_popescu g anything but begging you to take their money ? here's a simple rule of thumb : if your start-up is not in this position where someone somewhere perceives he can't afford NOT to pay you, it's not a start-up. it might be a business idea, perhaps, but it can not be a start-up.
10:16 mircea_popescu the difference being that businesses happen at the tip of a large pushing force, such as the airbnb scam pushed by paul graham-madoff, or such as "green energy" scam pushed by president bahamas-madoff. to be a start-up is exactly opposite to this, you're alone.
10:18 asciilifeform airbnb (and 'uber' etc) might fit both holes, in that they are gunning for an 'ebay' position - that of being 'the market'
10:18 asciilifeform the only market for x.
10:20 mircea_popescu in the sense that soviet soap was a start-up. "hey, it's this or not wash. what dove ?"
10:20 asciilifeform aha!
10:20 asciilifeform this or not-wash.
10:21 mircea_popescu yes, americans are poor and getting poorer. yes the Ministry of Packing Cattle Tighther has a solution.
10:21 asciilifeform (ftr there was nothing detectably wrong with sov soap)
10:21 mircea_popescu but that doesn't make it a start-up.
10:21 mircea_popescu just like "coinbase" is not a bitcoin corp.
10:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform there is. bad ph.
10:22 mircea_popescu soviet soap (like cheap usian soap, for that matter) is a kind of detergent. this isn't what good soap is.
10:23 asciilifeform what is soap even for if not to be a mildly basic detergent.
10:23 asciilifeform and surfactant
10:27 mircea_popescu !up chupachup
10:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform aha the later.
10:28 mircea_popescu a detergent works by chemically stripping fat.
10:28 shinohai Que chuoas chupachup
10:28 mircea_popescu this is undesirable incontact with skin.
10:28 mircea_popescu (mostly because the skin is not designed to protect its insides from osmotic processes driven by outside chemicals)
10:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00049748 = 5.2733 BTC [+]
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10:38 liquidassets We are all so young. Is there anyone here over 40? just curious
10:41 mircea_popescu there's the occasional 60yo. why do you care anyway ?
10:42 liquidassets Don't care really, I'd be impressed. Looking around I'd usually prefer most of them to just die already
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10:43 mircea_popescu on that basis ?!
10:43 liquidassets On the basis that they're already mostly all dead anyway
10:44 mircea_popescu by this reasoning food is "motly shit already" anyway.
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10:44 liquidassets I'd prefer to eat and not think of it as shit..?
10:45 mircea_popescu so there you go.
10:45 Birdman Well to be fair if the food had been sitting out a few days..
10:50 liquidassets Previously my frustration has been with older men who think themselves a little too highly for my taste, have acquired the ability to navigate social circles/seem to have all the power, and see me as a punk kid
10:50 mircea_popescu for all you know they're exactly right.
10:50 liquidassets Maybe that's because I was/am
10:51 liquidassets yeah exactly..
10:53 liquidassets But still, if you're an old, frustrated, white, male, American, who watches Fox News and considers yourself informed, and all the young cocks blah blah, back in my day, blah blah..
10:54 liquidassets Fucking have your heart attach already
10:55 Birdman Some want respect for being alive longer than you, just dont give it where its not due.
10:56 liquidassets Birdman and this is where I think there's an actual generational difference, the younger doesn't just automatically give it
10:56 liquidassets Which frustrates the older
10:57 trinque do not take the circumstances under which you grew up as universal.
10:57 Birdman There is a difference between courtesy and respect, though. It might have been drilled into their heads that they deserve it, for some reason, and senses of entitlement are rampant.
10:57 liquidassets It's a theme trinque see Caprica
10:58 Birdman Yes, as far as America goes this is common. The fat slob brainwashee's who arent worth a damn would like to be held in high regards.
10:59 liquidassets I think Birdman that it's a natural thing to want respect as you get older, especially FROM the younger. Because most younger are worthless anyway and they never got respect from their peers either
11:00 liquidassets They being the older
11:00 liquidassets and their wives despise them
11:02 Birdman Natural as in most people will end up like that? I dont intend to grow into that situation. I cant speak for anything outside of my own experiences, but as the world with open arms accepts socialism, you can expect more unfounded entitlement.
11:02 trinque you are both conflating at least two things.
11:03 trinque on the one side, the moo-eyed demands of the walmart customer, and on the other, a male desire for power which - if he's worth a shit - will accumulate over his lifetime
11:03 trinque and if not, he'll still want it as he'd still want sex, even if he couldn't get any.
11:03 trinque and so wht?
11:03 trinque *what
11:10 mircea_popescu ;;google site:tumblr.com go pussy free!
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11:12 mircea_popescu http://yesbigwhitecocks.tumblr.com/ << amusingly enough...
11:12 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OATjdQ )
11:14 Birdman http://www.wired.com/2015/12/big-tech-joins-big-banks-to-create-alternative-to-bitcoins-blockchain/ << worth some laughs
11:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Icw4KE )
11:15 mircea_popescu really puts into perspective all the dumbass stevensons out there, doing srs bzns on teh interwebs.
11:15 mircea_popescu the internet became its own self-parody sometime in what, 1995 ?
11:16 mircea_popescu Birdman yeah they've been blaring it out of all horns for a coupla days now. it makes a stark contrast to how quiet they'll be about the end results of this yet-another GTO (glorious tikrit offensive).
11:16 liquidassets Birdman natural as in I felt it before when in a 'menial' job taken AFTER accomplishments I was proud of and some surecock comes waltzing in telling everyone how mommy and daddy OWN a grocery store back in Minnesota and so blah blah...And I let him get under my skin
11:17 mircea_popescu liquidassets there's something fundamentally wrong about those accomplishments.
11:18 Birdman If you are proud of your accomplishments you wont be threatened by anothers i guess.
11:18 liquidassets LOL yeah probably...never felt too proud about them, even though I "should" because of how they look
11:18 mircea_popescu more importantly, why the fuck would you be working a menial job if you've ever accomplished anything fo real ?
11:18 Birdman Does it upset you some people have a better start in the world?
11:19 mircea_popescu if it's cuz you feel like it, then minesotta richboy's rather funny. if he's not funny, then wtf accomplishments were they.
11:19 liquidassets For fun MP and because even though it was menial it still was going to be beneficial
11:19 liquidassets Birdman no not at all
11:20 * mircea_popescu knew a pimp that actually had a day job - working in a mall shoe store.
11:21 mircea_popescu apparently "yo bitch, wanna make some motherfuckin' money ?" works better on barefoot womenz.
11:21 trinque !b 2
11:21 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3XPM0AC.txt )
11:21 liquidassets health food grocery store by a college campus after graduation....most of my life has been about "PC" or at least the prospect of it..
11:21 mircea_popescu what's pc ?
11:22 Birdman mircea_popescu politically correct
11:22 liquidassets pussy crushin
11:22 mircea_popescu heh. that worked well.
11:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 66 @ 0.01999996 = 1.32 BTC [+] {3}
11:23 liquidassets lol
11:24 mircea_popescu what's "pussy crushing" anyway ? simply getting laid ? or some bizarre fetish i never heard about ?
11:25 Birdman all the pc sjws are the people so repugnant that they need to claim a moral ground against pointing out their flaws.
11:26 Birdman Just as all the feminists are on the unattracive side of the spectrum
11:26 mircea_popescu "any flaws were god-given ; any qualities are my own" is just another rewrapping of that stale old jeder nach seinen fahigkeiten, jedem nach seinen Bedurfnissen cumbiscuit.
11:26 mircea_popescu Birdman nonsense. i've fucked rather hawt feminists.
11:28 mircea_popescu in unrelated news : the grand total okcupid offering for "women < 30 > 1.70cm within the 15mn buenos aires conurbation active in the past day" is... half a dozen people. clearly okcupid's not doing advertising correctly amirite nubbins ? :D
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11:28 mircea_popescu and no, there isn't a local equivalent. they're just primitive souls, computers = windows ; internet = facebook ; world = argentina etc scl.
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11:29 Birdman Ehh maybe i mean misandrists then, feminazis. Or that you've accomplished an incredible feat.
11:29 liquidassets mircea_popescu see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGWKKI2ky8w
11:29 assbot We’re Being Victimized - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OAUASi )
11:31 mircea_popescu honestly, i've yet to meet a woman (not mayo-gendered abominations, i've really not met any nor do i intend to) that actually hated men. there's a very mean streak in women generally, but visible with the naked eye in just some, where they truly and irationally haet beta boys, for some definition of beta that may be at first confounding.
11:31 mircea_popescu but that unicorn, the woman that actually hates men, i've not encountered myself.
11:32 mircea_popescu (the counter doth actually exist - men that genuinely hate women. i suspect the driver is that men are, for some inexplicable reason, actually petrified of cunt. it seems innate.)
11:32 Birdman I guess the man hating isn't there, but you know, the crazy feminists who think a guy eyeing a hot girl is somehow violent and un just. They just know all too well that their sexuality is empowering, so those who lack it are intimidated. Sort of like the beta male crying for fairness with socialism or communism, but really just knows his weaknesses and cant compete in the true fair system.
11:33 mircea_popescu well attention seeking behaviours are the invisible glue that keeps society together n'est pas.
11:33 trinque Birdman: even that is "pay attention to me!"
11:34 Birdman Plot twist
11:34 mircea_popescu http://www.okcupid.com/profile/SharksAreRadical < cute 19yo, "I'll be living in Ottawa from January to May for a job, I know absolutely no one there and would love to have some friends."
11:34 assbot SharksAreRadical / 19 / Ottawa, Ontario, Canada | OkCupid ... ( http://bit.ly/1OAV0rO )
11:38 liquidassets Birdman females are OBSESSED with who gets to sleep with who, it's one of their shows of power that some don't give up even after high school
11:39 mircea_popescu (in other news, okcupid's "ai" matching system is an utter useless pos. my own network creates usable hits with a 50% probability or better, by the 100s/day - and i didn't even KNOW i know chicks on okcupid in the first place. their crapolade made me click no about five hundred times in a row.)
11:41 mircea_popescu who knew that answering a bunch of pre-made questions nobody could care less about and then trying to mechanically "datamine" them isn't as good an approach as "hey, check out X, she's exactly right for you"
11:41 shinohai In today's two-scams-combine-to-become-one news: http://forklog.net/dogecoin-integrates-in-ethereum-for-application-in-smart-contracts/
11:41 assbot Dogecoin Integrates in Ethereum for Application in Smart Contracts | ForkLog ... ( http://bit.ly/1OAVrSO )
11:44 mircea_popescu "The promise is the following: a startup thinks it has an innovative solution. A startup thinks many other companies would pay for it.
11:44 mircea_popescu However these companies made their life without you, most probably for years." << the fundamental delusion of start-up-ers is that the market is free and efficient, and therefore there exist objective measures of worth. the sad reality of life in socialist states (ie, any state that acquires through any means any measure of control on 10% of the production of the citizens or more) is that the market's distorted, and wh
11:44 mircea_popescu atever exists is at best a paraeconomical concern surviving more on ideological fit than in satisfying objective measures. what, if "customers" are dissatisfied with the usg food or pills dispensaries they'll do what exactly ?
11:44 mircea_popescu shinohai they've been working doubletime to keep that thing afloat. pretty lulzy.
11:45 mircea_popescu "They will most likely not eat out of your hand if they can perceive you need them at first." << bwahahaha. they will not eat out of your hand if they perceive you need them ; and they will spend every dime they got to ignore you outright if they perceive you don't need them. so it goes.
11:45 liquidassets LOL shinohai that cancer of dogecoin is in full blown metastasis
11:45 mircea_popescu liquidassets just being "acquihired" into the other dying usgtron.
11:46 shinohai "Hey guys, let's rake all this shit into one pile."
11:46 liquidassets <heavy sigh> I'm not sure what my next move is
11:46 mircea_popescu find a girl outside the states and go live with her.
11:47 liquidassets Actually that's about a perfect answer as they come
11:47 liquidassets workin on an exit
11:48 liquidassets exit strategy i suppose
11:49 liquidassets but I am happy here too
11:49 Birdman Im in no position to get out either, ill see you at the camps liquidassets
11:50 liquidassets Birdman there's not going to be any camps
11:50 liquidassets not in our lifetime
11:51 trinque no one could've ever foreseen, eh?
11:51 Birdman Thing *seem* to be pretty bad, but ive only been around 20 years so I i see it all with that bias. Why do you say not in our lifetime?
11:51 liquidassets lol I can read the writing...
11:51 trinque don't worry about what is going to happen. you're not in a position to predict that.
11:51 trinque read your betters and improve your situation.
11:51 liquidassets Because it doesn't make sense; we are in such a unique position
11:52 Birdman The implementation of this central banking fiat debt cycle nonsense is so new to this world. What a century its been here? How long can it really last because we all know it cant.
11:53 mircea_popescu trinque in fairness, i only imagine there's gonna be camps for black ppls.
11:53 liquidassets trinque true, better not to worry about what is or is not, did I really need to put an IMO?
11:53 mircea_popescu !gettrust fghj
11:53 assbot Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user fghj: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=fghj | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/fghj/
11:53 Birdman These are interesting times to be alive, that is for sure. And i have a bezzle bag so if i do somehow keep my imediate freedoms through the crash of fiat and rise of sound money my mouth will be fed.
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11:54 mircea_popescu this is an interesting point.
11:54 mircea_popescu i suppose on a 20 to 50 year timeframe, it's drastically improbable anyone with a 1337 satoshi a day in income can possibly starve.
11:55 liquidassets Birdman I say not in our lifetime because from my point of view, we win, we already won, it's just the matter of convincing Alf of this fact
11:55 Birdman Though by the same logic, spending 20 USD would get me more bitcoin than the bezzle bag will ever in my lifetime
11:55 mircea_popescu ;;calc 1337 * 365 * 50 / 100000000 * 450
11:55 gribble 109.801125
11:55 mircea_popescu well... 1/5th of it, anyway
11:56 liquidassets Look the culture of 'government's place is to stay OUT of the way' runs deep within America
11:57 liquidassets Contemporary USAmerica, regardless of what it seems like we're going towards. What needs to happen is a little bit of pain
11:57 liquidassets pain and suffering as in, shit medical care, shit food, shit everything...
11:58 liquidassets USAsseters are in a very unique and interesting position
11:58 liquidassets But there's literally a dozen of us
11:58 liquidassets que PR
11:59 mircea_popescu !rate fghj 1 Euloran
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12:00 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for fghj with note: Euloran
12:04 mircea_popescu "I think we had too much hesitation in the decisions about what we were able to do and on the delivered product as well.
12:04 mircea_popescu I mean, who in the marketing industry is able to decode a 15K€ Web graph even if it contains loads of useful informations? And that was our number #1 feature. Now, I acknowledge the graph data was essential. We should have delivered them in an more effective and practical way: spreadsheets, data views (who are the influencers, how can I contact the websites owners, recommended keywords for Facebook/Twitter/newsletter
12:04 mircea_popescu s per group of users etc.). We should have sold a set of of lists with pictures, a few simplified maps and targeted howtos rather than an army-grade Web satellite radar with full control in your hands." << the conclusion we arrived at through spending 1mn euro is that people are stupid.
12:06 Birdman Ill tell you that for half the price
12:07 mircea_popescu in any case asciilifeform, thius is the primary driver for the stupidification of everything, and it's genuine. people are stupid. either you build your cash register as the mcdonals iconographic abomination, or they stick to doing it "by hand". like idiot argentine woman yest. i buy a carton of cigarettes, four litersd of milk and two lighters. she does the addition on paper. first she adds 80 + 260 + 18 but misplaces
12:07 mircea_popescu the 18 so it's 180 now, comes to 520. i point this out. she proceeds to add them again correctly this time, and comes to 488. i refuse this alt-arithmetic too. she does it once more, hands me 82 pesos in change for my 400. i refuse this once again, hand 40 pesos back to her and leave.
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12:07 mircea_popescu is a proper fucking cash register better than this insanity ? well... that all depends now, dun' it. better FOR WHOM ?
12:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30435 @ 0.00049364 = 15.0239 BTC [+] {2}
12:07 mircea_popescu a length of chain, a manger and the occasional stallion visit is actually better for her.
12:08 mircea_popescu but this notwithstanding, you don't need any sort of conspiracy to explain linux drift, or foss decay.
12:09 mircea_popescu just... people are dumb. that's it. that's all. you gonna make something they can use or not ?
12:09 mircea_popescu if you want users, you're making shit. end of fucking story.
12:09 mircea_popescu the notion that userbase is a metric has got to go, this is a not-negotiable prerequisite of a world that doesn't suck.
12:10 mircea_popescu course, such a world will, by and large, suck to live in. but, again, the question is, suck FOR WHOM ?
12:10 mircea_popescu and the answer is "fuck 'em".
12:19 liquidassets Exactly all of this MP
12:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00049365 = 5.3808 BTC [+]
12:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54200 @ 0.00049365 = 26.7558 BTC [+]
12:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5904 @ 0.00049279 = 2.9094 BTC [-]
12:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00048492 = 4.6552 BTC [-] {2}
12:34 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
12:40 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346515 << go take vacation to syria or any other pesthole where most people are under 30
12:40 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 15:42:51; liquidassets: Don't care really, I'd be impressed. Looking around I'd usually prefer most of them to just die already
12:40 liquidassets cool when we going?
12:41 ascii_field we?!
12:41 liquidassets JUST KIDDING SUPER READERS
12:41 liquidassets C4 Syria right?
12:42 funkenstein_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346578 <-- look, first complliment to porteños wherewithal i've seen in this channel
12:42 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 16:28:00; mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : the grand total okcupid offering for "women < 30 > 1.70cm within the 15mn buenos aires conurbation active in the past day" is... half a dozen people. clearly okcupid's not doing advertising correctly amirite nubbins ? :D
12:43 liquidassets HE'S IN A JOKING MOOD TODAY ISN'T HE SUPER READERS?
12:43 ascii_field ??
12:43 funkenstein_ ascii_field, congrats on gig changeup
12:43 ascii_field funkenstein_: i haven't started yet, only signed
12:44 ascii_field but ty funkenstein_
12:45 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346579 << quite like usa and afaik everywhere else
12:45 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 16:28:25; mircea_popescu: and no, there isn't a local equivalent. they're just primitive souls, computers = windows ; internet = facebook ; world = argentina etc scl.
12:45 ascii_field (with various config values substituted in)
12:46 liquidassets ;;gt Birdman
12:46 gribble (gt <item1> <item2>) -- Does a string comparison on <item1> and <item2>. Returns true if <item1> is greater than <item2>.
12:46 liquidassets !gettrust Birdman
12:46 assbot Trust relationship from user liquidassets to user Birdman: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=liquidassets&to=Birdman | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Birdman/
12:49 liquidassets !rate Birdman -1 not very bright
12:49 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/13843bbff8c05cdb
12:49 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346648 << holy shit
12:49 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 17:07:00; mircea_popescu: the 18 so it's 180 now, comes to 520. i point this out. she proceeds to add them again correctly this time, and comes to 488. i refuse this alt-arithmetic too. she does it once more, hands me 82 pesos in change for my 400. i refuse this once again, hand 40 pesos back to her and leave.
12:49 ascii_field i thought this only existed in usa
12:49 mircea_popescu mno.
12:50 mircea_popescu middle aged woman too, accomplished in fat (there's this certain rotundness of the respectable matron with prgeniture)
12:50 liquidassets !V assbot:liquidassets.rate.Birdman.-1:ecc064e4af8dd2388c436ac7e6dccf98c4290a91b7b335250808814313ade9f4
12:50 assbot Successfully added a rating of -1 for Birdman with note: not very bright
12:50 ascii_field though it is largely extinct in usa, pretty much nobody even dares to arithmeticize by hand
12:50 mircea_popescu ascii_field my first thought upon encountering my first usians, as a 10 yo boy, was that "these people never went to school, did they ?"
12:51 mircea_popescu i had never met someone up to that point who didn't longhand.
12:51 mircea_popescu in fact, kids books specifically point out habarnam as "only capable of block printing"
12:51 * ascii_field never learned latin longhand on account of usa schooling
12:51 mircea_popescu https://habarnam.ro/aventurile+lui+habarnam/ << habarnam. readily recognized by the cultivated.
12:51 assbot Aventurile lui Habarnam și ale prietenilor săi ... ( http://bit.ly/1lX1BpO )
12:53 ascii_field holy fuck mircea_popescu
12:53 mircea_popescu :)
12:53 mircea_popescu aha.
12:53 ascii_field you do know what that is, no
12:53 mircea_popescu yeah.
12:53 ascii_field 'незнайка в солнечном городе'
12:53 mircea_popescu yup. great book too. it might be the best kids book ever written
12:54 mircea_popescu this and ushinski's "povestind copiilor"
12:54 ascii_field didja read 'незнайка на луне' ?
12:54 ascii_field '90s ru capitalism was built seemingly using that parody as a handbook
12:54 mircea_popescu http://img20.olx.ro/images_mercadorro/66505478_4_644x461_k-usinski-povestind-copiilor-edmalis-moscova-cu-ilustratii-sport-timp-liber-arta_rev012.jpg
12:54 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RtIPTF )
12:55 mircea_popescu haha no, i never read the sequel.
12:55 ascii_field mega-b00k
12:55 ascii_field possibly the lulziest children's economic-themed tale of all time
12:55 ascii_field complete with stock fraud
12:55 mircea_popescu it's kinda weird they wenbt with "habarnam" rather than "niznai" seeing how it's an actual bona fide ro world.
12:55 mircea_popescu word*
12:58 funkenstein_ my second ordered for delivery today :)
12:58 mircea_popescu hm ?
12:58 funkenstein_ well a translation "dunno and his friends"
12:58 ascii_field waitasec there is an english ver ?!!
12:59 mircea_popescu the original prose is very delicate, hopefully they preserved the thin porcelain quality.
12:59 ascii_field and was it transled by that one brit who did everything else
12:59 mircea_popescu lol
12:59 ascii_field (pelevin, strugatski brothers, etc)
12:59 ascii_field i think he even did volkov's mega-upgrade of 'wizard of oz' even
13:02 ascii_field ;;isup trilema.com
13:02 gribble trilema.com is down
13:03 mircea_popescu gah
13:03 mircea_popescu dude i want a payment machanism that works on par with fucking hosting.
13:03 mircea_popescu that'd be great.
13:03 mircea_popescu then i could pay these schmucks in almostcoins.
13:03 ascii_field coins thrown with catapult
13:03 ascii_field over ocean.
13:03 ascii_field s0lv3d!!111
13:04 ascii_field call it 'icpm'
13:04 ascii_field (intercontinental payment missile)
13:04 mircea_popescu but the point is that they should only sometimes work.
13:05 mircea_popescu really, the only good equivalent is chocolate gold coins.
13:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45611 @ 0.00048971 = 22.3362 BTC [+] {2}
13:05 ascii_field aha, will have radius of error, and a certain nonzero prob of explosion at launch
13:05 mircea_popescu "your kids ate some of your money. literally."
13:05 mircea_popescu how do you know you're stuck in the kindergarten ?
13:06 mircea_popescu chocolate coins would make sense as a means of payment.
13:07 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
13:07 ascii_field from the dept of l0ltr0nics: https://forums.juniper.net/t5/Security-Incident-Response/Important-Announcement-about-ScreenOS/ba-p/285554
13:07 assbot Important Announcement about ScreenOS® - J-Net Community ... ( http://bit.ly/1RtKiJK )
13:07 ascii_field 'During a recent internal code review, Juniper discovered unauthorized code in ScreenOS that could allow a knowledgeable attacker to gain administrative access to NetScreen® devices and to decrypt VPN connections.'
13:08 mircea_popescu haha
13:08 mircea_popescu da fuck is this "unauthorized code".
13:09 ascii_field from the rumour mill, a straight backdoor
13:09 ascii_field likely, nsa's 'FEEDTHROUGH'
13:09 ascii_field but not 'found', naturally, but burned.
13:09 mircea_popescu "during a recent random walk through the codebase in a desperate but doomed attempt to fix or at least paper over bugs we have no idea about to any degree, we discovered that our code repository is so broken half the shit in there wasn't even written by anyone we know. we'll keep pretending like we're a thing tho, because seriously, what the hells the difference anymore ? considering all the lies we've told to date, it
13:09 mircea_popescu really no longer matters. oh, btw : fuck you."
13:10 ascii_field http://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content&id=JSA10713&cat=SIRT_1&actp=LIST << moar
13:10 assbot Juniper Networks - 2015-12 Out of Cycle Security Bulletin: ScreenOS: Multiple Security issues with ScreenOS (CVE-2015-7755) - Knowledge Base ... ( http://bit.ly/1NtIVXy )
13:10 mircea_popescu and then i'm the psychopath.
13:10 mircea_popescu these nuts are fine.
13:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51336 @ 0.00049077 = 25.1942 BTC [+] {2}
13:11 ascii_field Run Moar Usgware
13:12 ascii_field 'Juniper SIRT is not aware of any malicious exploitation of these vulnerabilities.' << aahaaaa
13:12 ascii_field glorious
13:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69100 @ 0.00049398 = 34.134 BTC [+]
13:12 ascii_field the visibly-to-naked-eye pwned backbonez around the globe, apparently, do not count.
13:13 mircea_popescu well, it's trilema that's down, not change.org right ?
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13:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 133950 @ 0.00049674 = 66.5383 BTC [+] {3}
13:45 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
13:46 ascii_field mircea_popescu et al: who wants to recommend a reasonably-priced man-portable spectrum analyzer ?
13:47 ascii_field something that doesn't mostly pick up ~its own heterodyne~
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14:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66900 @ 0.00049427 = 33.0667 BTC [-] {2}
14:03 mircea_popescu these are rather contrary requests.
14:03 ascii_field probably.
14:03 mircea_popescu what was the thing you dragged over to conf ?
14:04 ascii_field that was an oscope/logicanalyzer combo
14:04 ascii_field a very chinese one
14:04 ascii_field 'everybody' has it
14:04 mircea_popescu aha.
14:04 ascii_field (iirc kakobrekla fessed up to having that specific one, even, on his bench at home)
14:05 ascii_field incidentally, i never understood why a spectrum analyzer could not be a purely analogue affair
14:05 ascii_field and why it has to sweep
14:05 ascii_field why not simply a multitude of broad tuners attached to analogue lights.
14:06 mircea_popescu what if you want a light in between ?
14:06 ascii_field then you bring out the actual radio
14:06 ascii_field analyzer is for survey !
14:06 ascii_field and there is no 'in between', the bands ought to overlap.
14:06 mircea_popescu then make your own, out of rhesistors
14:06 mircea_popescu read the heatmap lol
14:08 ascii_field with su shuttered, nobody optimizes this kind of tool for cheap+simple+effective
14:08 ascii_field market consists solely of usgistic (costs like a car) and chinese parody (yer an audiophile and cattle and stfu buy this turd)
14:09 mircea_popescu im still not sure what product you actually want.
14:10 ascii_field sumthing that identifies peaks, dc to daylight, at close range.
14:10 mircea_popescu and you propose to build this out of analog wide band tuners ?
14:11 ascii_field yes.
14:11 ascii_field imagine a 10x10 pixel camera.
14:12 ascii_field could you take a decent survey of still objects in a room with it? surely
14:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56050 @ 0.00049748 = 27.8838 BTC [+]
14:12 mircea_popescu what ?!
14:13 ascii_field think.
14:13 ascii_field picture a one-pixel camera.
14:13 ascii_field supposing that you can orient it, it is simply a very slow means of taking a picture.
14:13 ascii_field original vidicon tube worked rather like this.
14:15 mircea_popescu ok...
14:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53700 @ 0.00049427 = 26.5423 BTC [-]
14:16 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:16 ascii_field the parallel with the decay of computing is actually a pretty close one
14:17 ascii_field modern digital spectrum analyzer is very complex, largely to fight own interference
14:17 ascii_field i often find it interesting to think about fields where this did NOT happen.
14:18 mircea_popescu looky : your idea of phenomena seems inspired by an alt-reality where computer programs run on repeatable, replayable abstract machines.
14:18 ascii_field mircea_popescu ever see, e.g., an old luger, or even maxim gun, taken apart ?
14:18 mircea_popescu this is not even the case for fucking computers, let alone random phenomena.
14:18 mircea_popescu if you're going to take "a very slow picture" with a one pixel camera, you'll end up measuring 42.
14:18 ascii_field mircea_popescu: wtf, i did it
14:18 ascii_field it works.
14:19 ascii_field i did specify 'inside a room'
14:19 mircea_popescu you did what ?!
14:19 ascii_field take a picture with a one-pixel camera
14:19 mircea_popescu can i see this picture ?
14:19 ascii_field i'd have to get it out of the vacuum cleaner
14:19 mircea_popescu ...
14:19 ascii_field (consumer appliance with takes the pic every day)
14:20 mircea_popescu ok, let's indulge. was there a woman in your picture with legs lazily spread apart ?
14:20 ascii_field one of those things. has laser interferometer turret on top.
14:20 ascii_field mircea_popescu: nope. just doors and chair legs etc
14:20 mircea_popescu shitty camera. next question.
14:22 ascii_field http://h2hassociates.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/point-cloud-processing-CaptureMD11DS1.png << not mine. example
14:22 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NtQyND )
14:23 ascii_field http://opticks.org/confluence/plugins/viewsource/viewpagesrc.action?pageId=6652735 << moar
14:23 assbot View Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1NtQD49 )
14:23 mircea_popescu the point here is that just like what people want to do with a camera (take pictures of woman) is not a good fit for your idea of a camera, just so what people want to do with sa is not a good fit for your idea of a sa.
14:23 mircea_popescu which is why it's not getting built.
14:23 ascii_field actually a top market niche for sa is 'bug sweep' and 'interference search'
14:24 mircea_popescu o look at this, eulora now has 7 perople online
14:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67200 @ 0.00049748 = 33.4307 BTC [+] {2}
14:38 liquidassets To all current and prospective USAsseters out there, true greatness can ever rarely be punished, much less so in the US, which makes its history something to be proud of. Don't forget that
14:39 * ascii_field lacks the necessary lsd to parse this
14:41 Birdman ^ danielpbarron
14:41 danielpbarron hahahaha <3
14:43 liquidassets When it hits you alf
14:49 mircea_popescu in other news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc5jposAKS1r2cjkwo1_500.gif
14:49 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NtSZjn )
14:51 liquidassets For girl on girl, pretty hot got to say
14:56 Birdman yeah but its still dykeish
14:57 Birdman <liquidassets>For girl on girl, pretty hot got to say << implying most girl on girl isnt normally hot?
14:57 liquidassets amiwrong?
15:00 Birdman Ehh yeah, and besides two girls w/o strap on > two girls w/ strap on
15:00 liquidassets notrly
15:09 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
15:10 ascii_field mircea_popescu: did anybody ever bother to do the keyserver thing ?
15:10 mircea_popescu not afaik.
15:16 adlai ;;bc,diff
15:16 gribble Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command.
15:17 adlai ;;bc,stats
15:17 gribble Current Blocks: 389090 | Current Difficulty: 9.34486707963238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 391103 | Next Difficulty In: 2013 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
15:17 adlai tidy little hop there :D
15:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84050 @ 0.00049723 = 41.7922 BTC [-] {3}
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15:41 mircea_popescu anyway, while trilema's down, https://archive.is/ri2ta if anyone's desperate for the content.
15:41 assbot There's a one Bitcoin reward for the death of Pieter Wuille. Details below. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IZeA4t )
15:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35678 @ 0.00049748 = 17.7491 BTC [+]
15:52 Birdman I discussed with danielpbarron about how bitbet could be used to casually place hits on people
15:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11122 @ 0.00049773 = 5.5358 BTC [+]
15:54 danielpbarron yeah apparently that's against the rules it turns out >> Then, any bet to do with breaking the law (specifically, murder, but also arson, theft, general destruction and mayhem) is a BadBet and not allowed on BitBet. https://bitbet.us/faq/#22
15:54 assbot FAQ BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1IZfSwp )
16:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00049772 = 6.7441 BTC [-] {2}
16:01 Birdman what q you makin ?
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16:24 mircea_popescu Birdman notrly.
16:25 Birdman hmm?
16:25 mircea_popescu or to be more precise : the only way it could be actually used makes it obvious it's being so used (same exact principle as for the pay for your tits thing : carve this hash in the guy's forehead or some shit), and it being obvious it's so being used makes it trivial for bitbet to disalow the bet in question.
16:26 mircea_popescu now obviously chair warmers all across the land have no fucking idea about anything and are happy to stay dumb, so random X may pretend whatever the fuck. but that's an entirely different matter.
16:29 mircea_popescu 93 bn diff huh ? epic.
16:39 mircea_popescu "We thought that others would also be interested in such a feature for their website, that made it possible to sell print products from all their pictures. Therefore, we decided to build something more generic, that everyone else could use as well. The new service was called PiX’n’PaLs PhotoProducts, which helped publishers monetize their website by selling print products from images. We took care of payment, shipp
16:39 mircea_popescu ing and everything else. The publisher got paid a 20% commission." <<< put their dumbass widget on your site (so provide all the leads), use your own creatives (so provide all the work), be paid a 20% COMISSION.
16:39 mircea_popescu this is almost as horrible a deal as being a parent.
16:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32814 @ 0.00049773 = 16.3325 BTC [+]
16:48 mircea_popescu http://links.net/vita/gamelayers/ << the guy's literate, at least, so maybe interesting
16:48 assbot A Story of GameLayers, Inc. ... ( http://bit.ly/1msfEDS )
16:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88500 @ 0.00049418 = 43.7349 BTC [-] {2}
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17:10 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/0684PPX.txt
17:10 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mshBA7 )
17:10 Naphex http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345434 <<< the statement should be issued sometime during this week, hopefully by 22; if that's what you're referring to
17:10 assbot Logged on 17-12-2015 14:26:51; mircea_popescu: "However, our growth rate did not meet our expectations, and the service does not scale as we would have expected to." aka "trying to leech of bitcoin while doing the usual fiat bullshit doesn't work."
17:12 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346168 << wait so 'renart' is ben_vulpes ? if so, whose side are you on man ?!
17:12 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 04:59:41; renart: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-18/humans-are-slamming-into-driverless-cars-and-exposing-a-key-flaw
17:12 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski thanks i'll see wtf this is.
17:13 pete_dushenski i thought ben_vulpes was all 'auto-auto-mobiles are the footoor because bayes'
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17:13 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: sounds good
17:15 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1345982 << haha oh monkey brain, your search for the guy who can precisely predict the millimetres of rain that will fall on your village next season never ceases.
17:15 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 02:16:10; mircea_popescu: (this was counterintuitive to the grunts doing money changing in the street, we had a good laugh over steaks about it, when discussing venezuela's plans to the same thing. after it played out they decided i was a god. because hey, why admit you were wrong when you could think the guy who's right is simply supernatural)
17:15 pete_dushenski btw that whole currency discussion was edifying
17:16 mircea_popescu their idea was that hey, if official goes up, black market goers up THAT MUCH MORE
17:18 pete_dushenski when really, the artificial gap narrows
17:19 pete_dushenski http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/selling-bottled-lake-louise-air-started-as-a-joke-but-theres-actually-a-lot-of-demand&pubdate=2015-12-17 << local kids selling chinese something only we have. soon : one can of fresh mountain air for one amd fx tower with 64 gb ecc plox.
17:19 assbot We talked to the Albertans selling bottled air to China — and despite all indications to the contrary, it’s not a hoax ... ( http://bit.ly/1msiIQo )
17:27 BingoBoingo http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8496187&cid=51144809
17:27 assbot Replacement For Mozilla Thunderbird? - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OBmEVv )
17:28 BingoBoingo Win >> "Guys, I think the Gopher people were right."
17:30 BingoBoingo adlai: Were you writing a note on this diff increase?
17:31 Naphex !up CoraCrisT
17:31 Naphex !rated CoraCrisT
17:31 assbot You rated user CoraCrisT on 30-Nov-2015, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: XOtika.tv CEO - Handles bussiness side, press, recruiting, marketing, hr, pr.
17:32 CoraCrisT hi folks
17:40 mircea_popescu ello
17:41 CoraCrisT ola mircea_popescu
17:45 mircea_popescu you up to date with the discussion re xotika ?
17:46 CoraCrisT yup
17:47 CoraCrisT i lurk around here for quite some time
17:47 deedbot- [Qntra] Substantial Bitcoin Difficulty Increase: 18.14% - http://qntra.net/2015/12/substantial-bitcoin-difficulty-increase-18-14/
17:47 CoraCrisT also talked to Naphex about it. i stil need to see the actual contract
17:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79600 @ 0.00049778 = 39.6233 BTC [+] {3}
17:48 BingoBoingo ;;later tell adlai too late. If you want a beat you can't just mention diff increase in chan without dropping an encrypted dpaste full of qntra submission.
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17:48 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:49 BingoBoingo ;;later tell adlai But don't worry too much there could still be another diff increase this year
17:49 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:50 CoraCrisT i just need to study it a bit. won't take long tho
17:52 BingoBoingo ;;isup qntra.net
17:53 gribble qntra.net is up
17:53 CoraCrisT also need to prepare the next statement.. while i get used to it
17:56 Naphex alright, i'm off too bed. gn
17:57 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
17:57 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 463.03, vol: 12725.90320756 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 457.75, vol: 7984.02485 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 463.34, vol: 26644.00834379 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 395.0, vol: 9.14193304 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 474.891282, vol: 100559.51380000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 467.69074, vol: 94.54804574 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 466.27999131, vol: 117.13111446 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
17:58 pete_dushenski eth ticker 0.00196220 eth/btc (-5.51%)
17:58 BingoBoingo ;;more
17:58 gribble average: 470.854442956
17:58 CoraCrisT !rate Naphex 10 most badass coder i ever worked with. his moral character & integrity are rock solid.
17:58 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/6e69a4cb9d87138b
17:59 mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats
17:59 gribble Current Blocks: 389108 | Current Difficulty: 9.34486707963238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 391103 | Next Difficulty In: 1995 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 19 hours, 18 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
18:00 CoraCrisT !gt Naphex
18:00 assbot Trust relationship from user CoraCrisT to user Naphex: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=CoraCrisT&to=Naphex | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Naphex/
18:00 trinque CoraCrisT: decrypt your otp there and provide with !v
18:00 adlai BingoBoingo: i'll be rooting for it... but i can't load qntra now, DNS is up to its usual reliability standards
18:02 BingoBoingo Yeah, something happened right after publish was hit
18:03 adlai !up CoraCrisT
18:04 pete_dushenski http://people.csail.mit.edu/ranjit/papers/poker.pdf << for those who can't round up enough fellahs for a home game.
18:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QyDtGz )
18:04 pete_dushenski "How to Use Bitcoin to Play Decentralized Poker"
18:05 CoraCrisT thank you
18:09 CoraCrisT !rated Naphex
18:09 assbot You rated user Naphex on 18-Dec-2015, with a rating of 10, and supplied these additional notes: most badass coder i ever worked with. his moral character & integrity are rock solid..
18:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45900 @ 0.00049795 = 22.8559 BTC [+]
18:23 mircea_popescu adlai BingoBoingo seems the very angry people managed to take the whole server down meanwhile.
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18:24 mircea_popescu part of operation "we're not gonna admit it, but mp's wuille assassination really fucking irked us. god damn that assole". or something.
18:24 adlai anger leads to the false side of the dichotomy
18:24 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
18:24 ascii_field mircea_popescu: what does 'down' mean ?
18:24 ascii_field smoking crater ?
18:25 mircea_popescu lol i dunno, but nothing pings, so...
18:28 mircea_popescu anyway, i think ima bring up a nigger.trilema.net or somesuch. be a few.
18:36 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> adlai BingoBoingo seems the very angry people managed to take the whole server down meanwhile. << lol year two, but some things never change
18:47 ascii_field https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99 << experimental programmable-versionstring patch is in test, and seen even here
18:47 ascii_field mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, mod6, et al ^
18:47 pete_dushenski lithuania !
18:47 ascii_field what of it
18:48 pete_dushenski home of the fourth conference.
18:48 pete_dushenski maybeifwhen
18:48 ascii_field home of new dulap
18:48 pete_dushenski well, we can all go visit him, pet him on the head, make sure he's enjoying his cage.
18:49 BingoBoingo Interlude: "It's amazing to think that at 340lbs, I thought at 250 I'd be a waif. I should be able to dress like the guys in the Ambercrombie ads at 250! is something I would have thought one year ago." https://archive.is/bcz6R#selection-1637.0-1637.189
18:49 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
18:49 assbot The bittersweet reality of setting goals at 340lbs. : loseit ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeEXEQ )
18:49 BingoBoingo Beautiful ascii_field
18:50 ascii_field in other lulz,
18:50 ascii_field http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1200/RR1231/RAND_RR1231.pdf
18:50 ascii_field ( http://dpaste.com/22G3KNQ )
18:50 assbot dpaste: 22G3KNQ ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeF8jk )
18:50 ascii_field hm defective paste
18:51 ascii_field nm, defective ocr
18:51 ascii_field it is what it is. (bombastic usg turd)
18:51 pete_dushenski lol, 'vc' was so badly abused, misused, tarred, and feathered by 'venture capitalists' aka ponzi artists that it's now taken to mean 'virtual currency'
18:55 * pete_dushenski off for a drink.
19:05 mircea_popescu nice asciilifeform
19:05 BingoBoingo Triggered https://i.sli.mg/yAQ9s3.jpg
19:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OBtOsP )
19:14 punkman https://www.deepdotweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Non-animated1_aNu_22-July-15__300x250_01-orange.jpg
19:14 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeIenC )
19:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68340 @ 0.00049389 = 33.7524 BTC [-] {3}
19:20 BingoBoingo http://www.lawguru.com/legal-questions/illinois-criminal-law/son-walking-street-kick-container-616521661/
19:20 assbot My son was walking down the street and | Legal Advice ... ( http://bit.ly/1OBuY7J )
19:22 mod6 <+ascii_field> https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99 << experimental programmable-versionstring patch is in test, and seen even here << cool!
19:23 assbot Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeJp6j )
19:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16494 @ 0.00049211 = 8.1169 BTC [-] {3}
~ 21 minutes ~
19:51 BingoBoingo http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article50335635.html#wgt=trending
19:51 assbot Retired East St. Louis police captain killed after gun accidentally discharges | Belleville News-Democrat ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeMLpY )
19:59 BingoBoingo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWi19BRWcAU-6Hm.jpg
19:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mduYUz )
20:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25467 @ 0.0004912 = 12.5094 BTC [-] {2}
20:02 asciilifeform achtung, panzers!
20:02 asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al:
20:02 asciilifeform http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000185.html
20:02 assbot [BTC-dev] Programmable Version Strings. ... ( http://bit.ly/1mdvdyY )
20:03 asciilifeform ;;jurov can we PLEASE have an end to filename munging?!! IT BREAKS V
20:03 gribble Error: "jurov" is not a valid command.
20:03 asciilifeform ;;later tell jurov can we PLEASE have an end to filename munging?!! IT BREAKS V
20:03 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27250 @ 0.00048627 = 13.2509 BTC [-] {2}
20:17 asciilifeform also interesting q: do all of these strings passed as returns ever get deallocated ?
20:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21250 @ 0.00049028 = 10.4185 BTC [+]
20:17 asciilifeform because unless std::string does something clever with refcounts, as far as i can see: they do not.
20:25 asciilifeform ;;isup qntra.net
20:25 gribble qntra.net is up
20:25 asciilifeform hm
20:25 asciilifeform entirely dead here.
20:25 kakobrekla its not
20:25 kakobrekla i think ;;8ball might be more accurate than ;;isup
20:25 asciilifeform aha.
20:40 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> because unless std::string does something clever with refcounts, as far as i can see: they do not. << they do not.
20:40 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> entirely dead here. << didn't we already discuss this ?
20:41 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that was trilema. qntra was alive until a few hrs ago
20:44 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346941
20:44 assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 23:23:48; mircea_popescu: adlai BingoBoingo seems the very angry people managed to take the whole server down meanwhile.
20:44 mircea_popescu you gotta read teh log
20:44 asciilifeform ah apparently
20:44 * asciilifeform reads
20:44 mircea_popescu anyway. apparently there's a limit on the count of simultaneously up services. whatevs.
20:48 asciilifeform incidentally, anybody ever succeed in getting a ~heap dump~ of a running trb ?
20:50 asciilifeform http://core-analyzer.sourceforge.net << possibly of interest
20:50 assbot Core Analyzer Home ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pc48Wx )
20:51 asciilifeform 'By searching the process’s address space for all references directly or indirectly to a suspicious object, the tool helps to unveil the object’s type and usage in a thorough and systematic way.'
20:51 * asciilifeform has not tried yet
20:52 asciilifeform https://fedorahosted.org/gdb-heap << similar
20:52 assbot gdb-heap ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pc4kVT )
20:52 asciilifeform also have not tried.
20:52 asciilifeform was gonna write own this, and found these
20:53 asciilifeform nm gdb-heap is worthless
20:53 asciilifeform does not support cpp yet...
20:54 asciilifeform https://google-perftools.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/heapprofile.html << even they have one
20:54 assbot Google Heap Profiler ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pc4pJ8 )
21:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00049027 = 5.442 BTC [-] {2}
21:13 mod6 <+asciilifeform> incidentally, anybody ever succeed in getting a ~heap dump~ of a running trb ? << thanks.
21:14 mod6 <+asciilifeform> http://core-analyzer.sourceforge.net << possibly of interest << for this
21:14 assbot Core Analyzer Home ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pc48Wx )
~ 43 minutes ~
21:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 177067 @ 0.00049733 = 88.0607 BTC [+] {6}
22:11 mod6 ;;bc,stats
22:12 gribble Current Blocks: 389126 | Current Difficulty: 9.34486707963238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 391103 | Next Difficulty In: 1977 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 15 hours, 6 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
22:24 * trinque looks forward to the day he can fiddle around with the concept of hypertext on a gossipd
22:25 trinque fuck this "oh the server is down" therefore I cannot access this information that was previously published by someone in my WoT
~ 34 minutes ~
22:59 mircea_popescu enjoy the web. designed by idiots.
~ 16 minutes ~
23:16 BingoBoingo What asciilifeform apparently misses in his corner of Murica https://i.sli.mg/gUPtot.jpg
23:16 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NCEsjd )
23:16 BingoBoingo scooty puff in the wild
~ 16 minutes ~
23:32 mircea_popescu so i ended up the happy owner of the best ice tray i have ever seen in my life. it's exceptionally well made plastic. for one thing, it's properly flexible. for the other, it's actually hygroscopic. for yet another, the separators are actually TALL enough you get proper cubes made. it is a wonder of perfection which literally fills my life with joy.
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23:32 * mircea_popescu can't remember the last time he has encountered a perfect product, but it wasn't this decade.
23:32 mircea_popescu but the true wtf of it all ? it's chinese.
23:32 mircea_popescu this is what "made in the usa" used to mean, 50 years ago.
23:33 mircea_popescu no longer.
23:42 BingoBoingo More keep popping up https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99
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23:42 assbot Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeJp6j )
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23:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38745 @ 0.00049816 = 19.3012 BTC [+] {2}
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