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00:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36246 @ 0.00047771 = 17.3151 BTC [+] {4}
00:20 BingoBoingo From the mines: "Just once I want to get sent to deal with a pronoid schizophrenic. The guy who's convinced that everyone is out to help him. He believes the FBI is watching him with the intent of making him their new Director. Aliens are invading Earth so they can give him the secret to eternal life. He wears a tinfoil hat to absorb the rays being beamed at him by the CIA that make him smarter and happier."
00:30 ben_vulpes mominlol has a great story about having to be the big bad landlady so that the social workers could maintain the trust of her evictee
00:31 ben_vulpes in 1970 boston
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01:10 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/rabite/status/675080418941628416
01:11 BingoBoingo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bzt928QIEAINz1b.jpg
01:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q5WRLl )
01:11 ben_vulpes "I will personally come out to SF and make this all public and have a showdown" << aha do what now i'm sorry i ohohohahaha
01:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35600 @ 0.00047398 = 16.8737 BTC [-] {2}
01:35 BingoBoingo https://imgur.com/gallery/260BU
01:35 assbot Tess Holliday/Munster is a shitty person, and here's why. - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q5ZEnQ )
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01:53 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340358 << usg miners mining under antpool and f2pool umbrellas ?? https://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=4days
01:53 assbot Logged on 10-12-2015 14:52:15; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340251 << l0l, miner usgocalypse ?
01:53 assbot Bitcoin Hashrate Distribution - Blockchain.info ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q61Rzz )
01:53 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: WHy wouldn't they?
01:54 pete_dushenski fees ?
01:54 pete_dushenski compare above chart with this one from 5 months ago : http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/26/bitfury-and-private-property-in-the-land-of-the-free/#footnote_1_4145
01:54 assbot BitFury and private property in the land of the free. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q62065 )
01:55 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Consider though the wisdom of USG miner propping up foreign pools that through serendipity introduce instability to the network
01:56 pete_dushenski 'antpool' has gone from 15% to 26%, f2pool from 21% to 24%, btcchina from 12% to 14%, bitfury from 14% to 11%
01:57 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: that's giving the usg a lot of credit on the 'wisdom' front, certainly more than they've warranted thus far.
01:57 pete_dushenski but mebbe 'wunderwaffen' is at work here ?
01:57 BingoBoingo This doesn't take wisdom. This only requires accidentaling and remembering all the way back to the ancient history of this July.
01:58 BingoBoingo Fuck, even Bitfury might have some hash at f2pool and antpool
01:58 pete_dushenski ya, those pie charts are pretty useless, tis true.
02:05 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340654 << you missed pankkake (http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/04/lets-cut-to-the-chase-is-la-serenissima-a-cult/) and thickasthieves (http://trilema.com/2014/waroflife-swol-october-2014-statement-closing/#comment-109550), both of whom were far more active in b-a, whose lack of presence was actually noticeable (at least in daily log lines) and were each seemingly
02:05 assbot Logged on 10-12-2015 22:01:45; shinohai: First time I had seen that happen, but I've only been here since June.
02:05 pete_dushenski more intelligent to boot, and yet both of whom left in pretty fiery blazes, compared to btcdrak and heysteve who were both relatively quiet and relatively useless and whose lack of presence won't even be a blip on the radar.
02:05 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1232/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jul-2016/#b8
02:07 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340704 << ikr :D
02:07 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 00:38:27; mircea_popescu: that exahash bet is interesting huh.
02:08 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340725 << too subtle for this crowd :P
02:08 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 00:51:10; mircea_popescu: one of my more absconse private jokes to date!
02:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54000 @ 0.00047718 = 25.7677 BTC [+] {4}
02:13 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340815 << let's say we revisit this when your we've both eschewed meat-chauffeurs for robo-chauffeurs. deal ?
02:13 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 03:44:18; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-12-2015#1339102 << listen when you can speak cogently about "the bayesian method" and articulate how "millions upon millions" [of lines of code] betrays your complete lack of understanding on the topic of control systems we can revisit this
02:14 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340387 << how jaded must i be that i didn't even bat an eyelash at this death warrant.
02:14 assbot Logged on 10-12-2015 15:20:15; deedbot-: [Trilema] There's a one Bitcoin reward for the death of Pieter Wuille. Details below. - http://trilema.com/2015/theres-a-one-bitcoin-reward-for-the-death-of-pieter-wuille-details-below/
02:14 pete_dushenski seriously, it's totally fucking reasonable !
02:14 pete_dushenski if a bit public, but hey, different strokes...
02:15 pete_dushenski some warrants are probably better served privately, some publicly
02:15 pete_dushenski this one, we'll see.
02:15 pete_dushenski but really, not that big a deal guys.
02:17 pete_dushenski the only reason that ex-kgb dudes a la putin and aliyev rule the roost today is because, after socialism "surprisingly" fell, they both a) had a strong wot, and b) were willing to kill when the time came.
02:19 pete_dushenski this isn't backyard cowboys and indians. your mom isn't calling you for dinner only for you to call back "just 5 more minutes mom! i have to catch this redskin!"
02:20 pete_dushenski wtf kind of war doesn't have the losers hung up for their crimes ? what is this, counter strike ? "oh, i'll just respawn and no big deal!" ??
02:21 pete_dushenski don't think so. the digital arena changes some aspects of conflict, but not death. there's no avoiding physical death.
02:25 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340427 << i can't claim to have any such information. for all i know, it's his morning paper
02:25 assbot Logged on 10-12-2015 17:16:26; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340205 << from http://violentmetaphors.com/2015/08/14/good-science-communication-means-never-calling-them-retard-even-if-youre-nassim-taleb/ and do we actually know taleb's NOT reading b-a ?
02:25 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2014/04/08/the-new-morning-paper/ << hehe. actually mentions leah mcgrath goodman. o time machine, will your wonders never cease ?
02:26 assbot The New Morning Paper | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRhbcH )
02:27 pete_dushenski speaking of time machines, i'm looking to have contravex printed into a book. anyone have any experience with http://www.blog2print.com/ ?
02:27 assbot blog2print | Turn your blog into a timeless treasure ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRhpjU )
02:27 pete_dushenski other suggestions and experiences are welcome
02:27 BingoBoingo What, you aren't going to commision a sefer contravex?
02:28 pete_dushenski what am i, bitcoin rich ?
02:29 BingoBoingo I though you were both a man of the tribe and of style.
02:30 pete_dushenski speaking of which, happy 5th night of channukah !!
02:31 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: don't let the contravex header fool you.
02:31 BingoBoingo Well, if that's a fraud you can drop the standard down to "ebay sefer"
02:34 pete_dushenski http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-jewishvoters-idUSKBN0TT01K20151210 << speaking of dumb jooz.
02:34 assbot Trump's anti-Muslim plans scramble Republican appeals to Jewish voters| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1RHZ3I7 )
02:34 pete_dushenski "“The Jewish community, collectively, has that institutional memory, and institutional scars from previous events in history where a group based solely on religion was persecuted,” said Lee Cowen, a Republican strategist, adding that Trump was damaging the party."
02:34 pete_dushenski '“They are very weary of somebody repeating the same kind of rhetoric but just changing the name of the religion.” "
02:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00047358 = 3.0309 BTC [-]
02:35 pete_dushenski hey joopublican, where's your fucking head ? blending it and singing koombaya ain't gonna cut it. time to find a scapegoat that isn't you, neh ?
02:35 pete_dushenski s/it/in
02:37 BingoBoingo http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/news/a27567/two-thirds-of-early-tesla-model-s/
02:37 assbot Report: Two-Thirds of Early Tesla Model S Drivetrains May Fail At 60,000 Miles ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRiSGW )
02:40 pete_dushenski waitwut ? you mean nihil fit ex nihilo and musk is just a bezzle-gobbling queen extraordinaire ?? no....
02:40 BingoBoingo Turns out instead of throwing away $60k on a Tesla the actual envrionmentally friendly thing to do is spend $3k on a Saturn L-series in servicable condition
02:40 pete_dushenski or a serviceable merc !
02:41 pete_dushenski what's more environmentally friendly than a car that's in the shop one day in 10 ? think of all the walking and bicycling !
02:42 BingoBoingo lol
02:43 BingoBoingo But what happens when shopping carts and scooty puffs hit the side of the merc? Plastic body panels ftw
02:45 pete_dushenski well, steel's pretty tough. and no one in their right mind gives a shit about 25-year-old paint.
02:50 BingoBoingo What, I still care about 12 year old paint.
02:51 pete_dushenski of course you do, in the same way that most dudes care about 18 yo filles, and couldn't care less about 26 yo ones.
02:51 pete_dushenski 36*
02:51 pete_dushenski double the age is less than half the shits given !
02:52 pete_dushenski exponential decay.
02:52 pete_dushenski or at least non-linear.
02:54 BingoBoingo Well I'm prolly repainting the plastic wheel covers black this spring as a solution to the dilema of "just roll steelies" or find a set of used aluminium rims.
03:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21443 @ 0.00047223 = 10.126 BTC [-] {5}
03:15 pete_dushenski http://arxiv.org/pdf/1512.02206v2.pdf << for 'quantum computing' enthusiasts in the crowd.
03:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRnCfA )
03:15 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
03:15 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 427.5, vol: 10346.59141397 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 10447.25285 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 429.87, vol: 24843.01679647 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 400.0, vol: 0.1398 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 437.594049, vol: 101187.02640000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 425.74398, vol: 281.50954696 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 420.584247, vol: 58.43446254 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
03:15 BingoBoingo ;;more
03:15 gribble 434.301991331
03:18 pete_dushenski http://roadstorome.moovellab.com/images/eu_rome_web@2x.jpg << all roads lead to rome.
03:18 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1HXZa03 )
03:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52850 @ 0.00048221 = 25.4848 BTC [+] {2}
03:18 pete_dushenski all 486`713 of them.
03:21 BingoBoingo I can assure you that IL 127 while covering substantial distance does not.
03:24 pete_dushenski https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV3rOTCWwAAakB-.jpg:large << so green that macri, vw hybrid !
03:24 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1HXZAn9 )
03:27 pete_dushenski "just three months after so much hype and so much love went into Mr. Colbert’s debut as the new host of Late Night, the former Comedy Central star has somehow fallen into 4th place where it matters most. In the all-important demo, he’s now being doubled up (and then some) by NBC’s Jimmy Fallon (outscored by 137 percent) and hasn’t beaten ABC’s Jimmy Kimmel in over a month. But here’s where CBS brass
03:27 pete_dushenski is likely doing a double-take: During the week of November 23-27, the 11:35 PM Late Show on CBS was beaten by Seth Meyers, who happens to be on one hour later (12:35 PM) on the Peacock."
03:28 pete_dushenski ^it must suck to be a fake person who now has to pretend to be a real person.
03:28 pete_dushenski hey colbert, go back to being a metatard or something.
03:29 BingoBoingo http://epmonthly.com/article/praxbind-in-practice/ << lol replacing warfain with pradaxa means instead of simple vitamin k as an antidote you need an expensive ass monoclonal!
03:29 assbot Praxbind in Practice - Emergency Physicians Monthly ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRptkB )
03:29 pete_dushenski but i guess that's what cbs gets for trying to appeal to redditards and gen xers.
03:29 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: You mean people who don't really watch tv on tc
03:29 BingoBoingo *tv
03:31 pete_dushenski pretty much those ones, ya.
03:31 BingoBoingo "Patients are to be treated with 5 g of intravenous idarucizumab, which should be administered as two 50-ml bolus infusions, each containing 2.5 g of idarucizumab, no more than 15 minutes apart" << Damn. Whole entire fucking GRAMS of monoclonal antibody.
03:33 BingoBoingo "The U.S. price for the recommended 5 g dose of idarucizumab is $3500. This figure does not include the hospital charge to the patient" << This is how Obamacare really dies, because 5 grams of a monoclonal isn't selling for $3500 very long after approval.
03:34 BingoBoingo Every physician burned by Obamacare can keep warfarin for their self pays and pradaxa for medicaid.
03:36 BingoBoingo http://epmonthly.com/article/iv-acetaminophen-here-today-gone-tomorrow/ << Because this is how they cycle works. Cool treatment found, cool treatment priced out of niche.
03:36 assbot IV Acetaminophen: Here Today, Gone Tomorrow - Emergency Physicians Monthly ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRqiKf )
03:37 BingoBoingo "Not any more. It seems the manufacturer, as a result of its actions, has decided to effectively kill the use of their drug. At $35 a dose, nobody is going to use it in the ED and hospital pharmacy committees are going to sharply restrict the use of the IV version of the drug to the point of extinction. As well they should." << Note economics is only possible when there are alternatived like dilaudid.
03:40 BingoBoingo gavin@xtcoin.com >> http://qntra.net/2015/12/after-xt-failure-gavin-andresen-supports-jim-crow-for-signatures-on-the-blockchain/#comment-81924
03:40 assbot After XT Failure Gavin Andresen Supports Jim Crow For Signatures On The Blockchain | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRr0Hy )
03:41 adlai a properly done segwit softfork could actually result in a blocksize decrease for the non-segwit blockchain
03:44 adlai turns voting for block size increases into betting that miners do full validation
03:47 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1233/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jul-2016/#b15
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05:28 adlai !v assbot:adlai.rate.btcdrak.-1:7a99b5604140240f3bde39aa74532602c1d089f1430d1b53f035e5bab5a945d7
05:28 assbot Successfully added a rating of -1 for btcdrak with note: thinks order can be imposed upon bidirectional polycyclic graphs
05:28 adlai !v assbot:adlai.rate.mircea_popescu.4:c65518def1d265e28d6b4bf39d6f03295e0761df783cca9065c4c6a6c639c74f
05:28 assbot Successfully added a rating of 4 for mircea_popescu with note: highly educational, taught me not to trust text, signed or otherwise
05:31 adlai too much energy is wasted by idiots equating read and print with eval
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06:19 adlai and even more - by those that loop!
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08:20 mircea_popescu adlai dude. what ?!
08:21 mircea_popescu !up Edgan
08:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74525 @ 0.00047984 = 35.7601 BTC [-] {3}
08:34 mircea_popescu loller who the fuck are those derps ?
08:34 mircea_popescu there exists exactly one billionaire involved in bitcoin, what the fuck are they smoking ?
08:45 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/BitcoinHelpDeskhttps://twitter.com/BitcoinHelpDesk << o look, the derps made their own moiety. nice going on copying #b-a two years later lol.
08:45 assbot Twitter / ? ... ( http://bit.ly/1NKnItS )
08:45 mircea_popescu somehow i'm willing to bet it's a dude tho.
08:52 punkman "I don't know MP. Can't inform. But I agree. Anything touches sipa, I'll contribute to ensure MP is gone." such threats
08:52 punkman https://twitter.com/breadwalletapp/status/659405765715738624
08:53 mircea_popescu o look at that, otc still exists.
08:54 mircea_popescu mmmkay.
08:56 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340827 << except when it does.
08:56 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 03:49:06; asciilifeform: sorta how you can flush your own toilet, and the outcome does not depend on the result of me flushing mine
08:57 adlai if everybody flushes their toilets at once, the tide goes out. you can't explain that.
08:57 mircea_popescu this example happens to get at the core of my misgivings about the model (which yes, is as seductive and great and promise-y as ben intuits, sure) : while the theoretical machine may have all the nice properties,
08:58 mircea_popescu the practical implementation promises from experience to create the undebuggable situation where the dumb blonde in 7a flushed her diafragm and now the results of your flushing will be a bathroom flood.
08:59 mircea_popescu "why did function flush return flood ???" "uh... it's not supposed to do that" "no shit"
08:59 mircea_popescu and whatever enthusiasm may tell you about this, there's a very fucking fundamental problem here. you don't get to control backflow and complex emergent behaviours just because you don't want to think about them
08:59 mircea_popescu which is why all plumbing is full of cockroaches and all sewage has rats nests.
09:01 mircea_popescu to comprehend how fundamental this all is, look at a leaky toilet sometime, or any flow on an incline. you should be able to observe regions moving UPSTREAM. "oh it's not supposed to do that" "said who ?" "newton".
09:02 mircea_popescu sure. ask t von karman. he knows.
09:02 mircea_popescu he asked fucking god!
09:03 shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340993 <<< the lulz "Anything touches sipa, I'll contribute to ensure MP is gone."
09:03 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 13:45:29; mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/BitcoinHelpDeskhttps://twitter.com/BitcoinHelpDesk << o look, the derps made their own moiety. nice going on copying #b-a two years later lol.
09:04 mircea_popescu conveniently omits to mention WHAT the fuck he'll contribute
09:04 mircea_popescu which makes me suspect it'll be "raising awareness" on his dozen-followers twitter.
09:04 shinohai I'm going to make a snarky remark.
09:04 mircea_popescu derps accusing me of "seeking attention", when i own their mother, in a fucking trasnparent ploy to seek attention. herpitty-derp.
09:16 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340864 << womenz in tech. they think the dumbass shit works, because if there\'s nothing she's more affraid of than confronting the dumb blonde bitch in 11th grade, then CERTAINLY should she one day do it the fucking earth orbit will change.
09:16 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 06:11:19; ben_vulpes: "I will personally come out to SF and make this all public and have a showdown" << aha do what now i'm sorry i ohohohahaha
09:20 mircea_popescu !up chmod755
09:27 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340893 << it's easy when you're in a cult!
09:27 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 07:14:22; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340387 << how jaded must i be that i didn't even bat an eyelash at this death warrant.
09:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9391 @ 0.00048062 = 4.5135 BTC [+] {2}
09:44 mircea_popescu https://archive.is/CNsNN << pretty lulzy thinking tho. "how dares this mp guy act independently! this should not exist! i will call upon my liege lords to efface this abomination from the face of the earth - if not in reality then at least from the earth as i can see it. for it bothers me so."
09:44 assbot Bitcoin Assistant on Twitter: "@lopp @oleganza @qntra Jameson, did you see this? https://t.co/W1pu0x1G6b Popescu needs to be reported to local police." ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmI7l6 )
09:44 mircea_popescu i guess if you took a vote among the domesticated ducks, they'd agree wild ducks must either be all shot or else a ceiling put over the village.
09:45 adlai lol 'local'
09:45 adlai whatever happened to interpol? TSA? AMA?
09:47 mircea_popescu ill tell you what happened
09:47 adlai i guess 'local police' in the average american locallity includes enough armored vehicles to get mistaken for authority
09:48 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553092.0
09:48 assbot MPEx owner in danger of being extradited to US to face charges ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y2533p )
09:48 mircea_popescu they... expired.
09:49 adlai one of the nice things about living in a hellhole with discernible "bad guys" is that swatting just doesn't exist
09:50 mircea_popescu what hellhole is that ? israel ?
09:50 adlai V
09:50 mircea_popescu yeah but on the other hand the only place i was ever actually bombed in was jerusalem.
09:50 adlai what's the relevance of this BCT link?
09:51 mircea_popescu they missed me by two weeks in cairo
09:51 mircea_popescu adlai back in 2013 or w/e they were hoping for interpol / tsa / ama. it... fizzled
09:51 mircea_popescu now moved on to "local police!!"
09:51 mircea_popescu i suppose by 2018 it will be samuel l jackson and the lord our god.
09:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59400 @ 0.00048573 = 28.8524 BTC [+] {5}
09:51 adlai ;;google pray to george pesci
09:51 gribble Quote by George Carlin: “You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two ...: <http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/235415-you-know-who-i-pray-to-joe-pesci-two-reasons>; George Carlin on Religion and God - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPOfurmrjxo>; Positive Atheism's Big List of George Carlin Quotations: <http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/carlin.htm>
09:51 mircea_popescu chuck norris seems to have gone the way of the superman
09:52 * adlai lols at his thinko
09:54 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341005 << i picked the analogy quite deliberately. because not only is digital electronics a simplified world riding on top of analogue, but the entire lumped-element model is likewise 'a lie'
09:54 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 13:59:01; mircea_popescu: "why did function flush return flood ???" "uh... it's not supposed to do that" "no shit"
09:54 mircea_popescu aha. good pick.
09:54 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341006 << buuuut we do have a very few abstractions that work. witness how you never have to debug your cpu
09:54 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 13:59:46; mircea_popescu: and whatever enthusiasm may tell you about this, there's a very fucking fundamental problem here. you don't get to control backflow and complex emergent behaviours just because you don't want to think about them
09:54 asciilifeform 's alu
09:55 mircea_popescu the REASON i never have do debug my cpu, my very dear alf
09:55 mircea_popescu IS the reason you keep complaining about it.
09:55 mircea_popescu if FOSS had a hand in it, i'd buy 10k cpus every time i wanted to make a working station.
09:55 mircea_popescu like fucking kv-1 spare parts.
09:56 asciilifeform before usg is through, we WILL have sov-style disposable cpu.
09:56 asciilifeform witness the 'organic LED' panel.
09:56 asciilifeform it is good for roughly 5 yrs. of service.
09:56 asciilifeform (the elements have a half-life of sorts)
09:57 mircea_popescu maybe. not so convinced. /me got an old ipad for his game research a year ago. ipad 2. retina display. shit still works 100% no dead pixels no nothing.
09:57 mircea_popescu !up nickeem
09:57 asciilifeform no oled in ipad!!
09:57 asciilifeform yet.
09:58 asciilifeform so far it's mostly in korean turdroid items
09:58 adlai is the ipad still anything beyond a consumption endpoint for the Apple, Inc. store?
09:58 mircea_popescu nope.
09:58 asciilifeform adlai: it comes with a www browser. so sorta like a dumb terminal.
09:58 mircea_popescu well you could root it, obv, if oyu cared for a shitty pentium 2 in the house.
09:58 mircea_popescu but i mostly used it specifically to review the store.
09:58 adlai the debate is about bitcoin in c++ or cl, not js
09:58 mircea_popescu because hey, it's crapple universe, they have all the scholarly achievement of a dead congolese stray dog.
09:59 mircea_popescu not like you can read any sort of anything about it, either you do the experiments yourself or else fu you never know.
09:59 mircea_popescu !up dbclk
09:59 * adlai would vote for ada but wouldn't have any insider knowledge to make that a rational bet
10:00 asciilifeform adlai: it isn't a 'vote' subject, it's a somebody-giving-enough-of-a-shit one
10:00 adlai one competent bookie away from being a vote.
10:01 asciilifeform l0l
10:01 adlai cf "s.nsa delivers before op's bones turn into grey goo"
10:02 adlai the only econ that's "advertising" to is.you.
10:03 * asciilifeform lacks the correct lsd to process this
10:03 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341025 << see the old logz re: gaddafi
10:03 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 14:44:47; mircea_popescu: i guess if you took a vote among the domesticated ducks, they'd agree wild ducks must either be all shot or else a ceiling put over the village.
10:04 mircea_popescu holy shit... i've.... i've become gaddafi ?!
10:04 mircea_popescu busty nurses and wild hair ?!
10:04 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2014#573142 << starting there
10:04 assbot Logged on 21-03-2014 17:44:35; asciilifeform: 'When the glorious Muammar Kaddafi, in his blue bournouse, or in his uniform, appear on the telly, the domesticated inhabitant of the sanitaria jerks from fright. 'Monster,' 'terrorist,' 'evildoer,' public enemy number one - the media calls him, led by its disdain for all that is envigorating (and, on top of it all, foreign), and pushed by false information supplied by CIA... ...his very existence is
10:05 adlai asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-12-2015#1337423 could've bought hardware rather than hedgeware
10:05 assbot Logged on 06-12-2015 17:28:06; deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 24.99980000 BTC on 'No' - Cardano to Ship in 2015 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1100/cardano-to-ship-in-2015/#b18
10:06 adlai there's your lsd, let's hope christmas comes early on the next bet :)
10:06 asciilifeform adlai actually thought i had anything to do with the bet ?
10:06 asciilifeform lulzy
10:07 asciilifeform afaik not even my organs, and the rest of the meat cured as sausage, is worth 25 b.
10:07 * adlai said this?
10:07 mircea_popescu in other symbolic news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/c87e9924b8a8854437224d6719723d68/tumblr_mftuk9O1UC1rzf0y9o1_1280.jpg
10:07 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y280AY )
10:08 adlai generally the targets of advertisement have nothing "to do witch" its content, funding, placement, etc
10:09 asciilifeform adlai: have you considered starting a proper blog ?
10:09 adlai yes
10:11 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341008 << to round this off, fortunately there is no straight analogue of this in solid state physics. but there is 1) the various forms of intrinsic noise and 2) the failures of the lumped element model as a whole
10:11 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 14:01:19; mircea_popescu: to comprehend how fundamental this all is, look at a leaky toilet sometime, or any flow on an incline. you should be able to observe regions moving UPSTREAM. "oh it's not supposed to do that" "said who ?" "newton".
10:12 asciilifeform 2 is a serious boojum to folks still trying to moore's law
10:12 mircea_popescu aha
10:12 asciilifeform as is 1 (which is the ultimate gravestone on said 'law')
10:13 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341033 << afaik it exists strictly in usa
10:13 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 14:49:31; adlai: one of the nice things about living in a hellhole with discernible "bad guys" is that swatting just doesn't exist
10:14 * adlai is open to suggestions of *sane* blogware
10:14 adlai but wouldn't you rather i write lisp instead of englith?
10:15 asciilifeform adlai: specifically, a lengthy and fully-formed thought, like what you were trying to describe earlier, belongs in a proper post
10:15 adlai but all the cool kids are whiping taters!
10:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00048807 = 8.0776 BTC [+] {3}
10:18 trinque adlai: best blogware is probably rolling something using cl-markup or the like.
10:18 mircea_popescu maybe ben_vulpes wants to share his flatfile thing
10:18 mircea_popescu wordpress can be used, requires extensive neutering
10:19 asciilifeform if you don't need the comments thing, best 'blogware' is prolly still... handwritten html
10:19 * mircea_popescu is amusing at the thought that the "fuck you, apparently gotta maintain an old version of everything one intends to use" did not start with bitcoin. but with wordpress.
10:19 adlai trinque: you're missing a "the product of", which excludes that from being an answer to the question as conceived in the author's mind :)
10:19 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: afaik it began with gcc
10:19 asciilifeform at least here on ~my~ planet
10:19 mircea_popescu well was talking mine.
10:19 trinque adlai: finefine
10:19 * mircea_popescu 's interest in programming has been remote for many years, pre-btc
10:20 adlai last i checked, bitcoin restricts us to cohabiting the same planet...
10:20 asciilifeform adlai: restricts ~bitcoin users~, aha
10:21 * adlai finds alf reminiscent of the local crazy this-guy-must-be-a-plant who claims to only own 1.8 btc, for retirement
10:21 adlai although he lacks your way with silicon
10:21 mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats
10:21 gribble Current Blocks: {"blockcount":387880} | Current Difficulty: {"difficulty":79102380900.22598} | Next Difficulty At Block: None | Next Difficulty In: None blocks | Next Difficulty In About: None | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
10:21 adlai bwaha
10:22 mircea_popescu o.O
10:22 asciilifeform div by 0 ?
10:22 adlai we're at an estimated 647
10:24 asciilifeform this is not the normal format, either
10:24 asciilifeform e.g., http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340438
10:24 assbot Logged on 10-12-2015 17:22:16; gribble: Current Blocks: 387713 | Current Difficulty: 7.910238090022598E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 389087 | Next Difficulty In: 1374 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 5 hours, 33 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
10:24 mircea_popescu nanotube ^ seems gribble got the boo-boo.
10:24 * adlai was estimating short-term hashes-per-second, which is what's relevant for bitbet mods and addicts
10:26 asciilifeform ;;nethash
10:26 gribble 750033016.336
10:27 adlai O.o
10:27 adlai arrise, chinese chikkun!
10:27 asciilifeform usgineze
10:28 adlai it's all the peter pans staying forever 21
10:29 adlai warmblooded-humans-running-miners metric remains on "2TH/s, sitting on the table in front of me, gathering dust"
10:30 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340897 << a private warrant ?! where are you from, louis' court ?
10:30 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 07:15:24; pete_dushenski: some warrants are probably better served privately, some publicly
10:31 * adlai hopes for sipa's sake that bitcoin's fiat value remains lower than his paranoia threshhold
10:33 adlai now here's an interesting bet, albeit longer than any human (as opposed to econ) bookie to float: the size of pot which triggers the first assasination
10:33 mircea_popescu either that or that the value of bitcoin actually motivates him to start actually thinking about things, for the first time in his life.
10:34 kakobrekla http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-10k.png < off the chart, literally
10:34 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y2crfk )
10:34 mircea_popescu this "nothing can ever happen" thing that everyone wants to bake in the axioms is exactly the castration limonov discusses.
10:34 mircea_popescu kakobrekla aha, one of the larger jumps in history.
10:36 mircea_popescu if the 2-3 day estimate actually gets supported, it will be the largest jump in hsitory.
10:36 mircea_popescu hay mas futuro!
10:36 adlai call me when it's over 4x :P
10:37 mircea_popescu lol. yeah, in relative terms its hard ot beat 2009-2010
10:37 adlai "we must hardfork the window-squaring to keep out the anarcho-communist enemy!"
10:37 mircea_popescu actusally more like 2009 and 2011
10:37 mircea_popescu 2010 was kinda dead iirc.
10:39 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340919 << holy shit they're doing it backwards.
10:39 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 07:34:03; pete_dushenski: "“The Jewish community, collectively, has that institutional memory, and institutional scars from previous events in history where a group based solely on religion was persecuted,” said Lee Cowen, a Republican strategist, adding that Trump was damaging the party."
10:40 mircea_popescu what the fuck is wrong with these people!
10:40 mircea_popescu if they were after eastern european votes they'd be going "support a stronger usg because you as a group have the institutional memory to show what a great idea a soviet union is, and the scars to prove it!"
10:40 mircea_popescu fucktards.
10:41 mircea_popescu i have no fucking idea how the niggers can stand themselves. it sure as fuck galls me, and i don't even live there. here sits Lee Cowen, re-interpreting history for his fellow jews, according to what lenin said ?
10:41 mircea_popescu motherfucker...
10:45 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340908 << i have no idea about the outfit in question, other than being quite obviously part of a venerable scam, so old it's even monographed by balzac. if you actually want to print your blog, get yourself latex, make it spit out printer files ; find a local printer with a web press, see what's the lowest they'll take in run overhead (should be 1-2k or so) and do a run.
10:45 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 07:27:09; pete_dushenski: speaking of time machines, i'm looking to have contravex printed into a book. anyone have any experience with http://www.blog2print.com/ ?
10:45 mircea_popescu make sure you pick layflat binding.
10:46 mircea_popescu total waste of trees, but if you want to get the veblen good, get the actual fucking veblen good rather than some plastic mass market replacement. nobody of the old jews you're trying to impress is going to give a shit about your book ; they WILL however notice that your thing comes off a web press not a pod outfit, and that'll scare the everliving shit out of them.
10:48 mircea_popescu or at any rate, it's the sort of thing i've been doing to petrify the adults ever since i was about i dunno, 5. ymmv.
10:54 mircea_popescu !up chmod755
10:55 nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341100 <<< if i had to choose a singular event that fully kindled my nihilism, it would be studying nonlinear dynamics in depth
10:55 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 15:11:48; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341008 << to round this off, fortunately there is no straight analogue of this in solid state physics. but there is 1) the various forms of intrinsic noise and 2) the failures of the lumped element model as a whole
10:56 nubbins` "my god, it's full of stars" but w/ little poop vortices or w/e instead
10:58 mircea_popescu StyleIncludesPrice (extra pages are $0.45)
10:58 mircea_popescu Softcover Book20 Pages$19.95
10:58 mircea_popescu Hardcover Book (laminated picture cover)20 Pages$34.95
10:58 mircea_popescu ahahaha omfg.
10:59 mircea_popescu Deluxe Book (cloth-bound cover w/dust jacket)20 Pages$39.95
10:59 mircea_popescu PDFUnlimited Pages$8.95
10:59 mircea_popescu shit sherlock...
10:59 nubbins` twenty pages
10:59 nubbins` i'd make a thousand copies for cheaper than that, and they'd be printed by hand
10:59 nubbins` TYL offset printing is expensive
11:00 mircea_popescu this isn't offset even.
11:00 nubbins` and 1-2k is not "quantity"
11:00 nubbins` o?
11:00 nubbins` digital print? zzz
11:00 mircea_popescu some random scam your favourite b-a resident drag up
11:01 nubbins` 430-page limit!
11:02 nubbins` TBF there's nothing inherently wrong with digitally-printed books, if having the book stand the test of time isn't a requirement
11:03 mircea_popescu in this sense there's nothing wrong with having randi suckerberg sitting on a board of directors,
11:03 mircea_popescu if the board doing any useful work whatsoever isn't a requirement
11:06 nubbins` ;)
11:06 mircea_popescu awww, colbert's not funny ?! who knew!
11:06 nubbins` fuck, print it on newspaper
11:06 nubbins` or blow yr wad: http://www.lumierepress.com/pages/making%20the%20book/chrono.html
11:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NghiBo )
11:11 adlai ./ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-12-2015#1341173 "am i doin dis rite", or "you keep using that !up, i'm not sure it means what you think it does"
11:11 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 15:54:13; mircea_popescu: !up chmod755
11:11 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340966 <<< you're pretty much exactly correct, i think. that's how it dies.
11:11 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 08:34:28; BingoBoingo: Every physician burned by Obamacare can keep warfarin for their self pays and pradaxa for medicaid.
11:11 mircea_popescu same old "oh, you want to be the big man mr govt ? go chew out that yonder mountain!"
11:12 adlai nubbins`: in my chain, "digital print" means i can read it off a node
11:12 mircea_popescu adlai dude's been pming me.
11:12 adlai ah lol
11:13 mircea_popescu apparently the entire "you can't have private conversations with people you don't know" thing is just too hard for the average intuition.
11:13 nubbins` adlai traditionally in the art world, people like to refer to inkjet prints as "giclee"
11:13 * adlai has no idea what you're talking about, officah
11:13 nubbins` from the french, "to squirt jizz"
11:14 nubbins` because that's the worth of an inkjet print
11:14 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340972 << and if it does, it ALSO turns bitcoin into a scam, for the off-chain people who [were led to] believe they are dealing in bitcoin while really all they got is bitcoin'.
11:14 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 08:41:57; adlai: a properly done segwit softfork could actually result in a blocksize decrease for the non-segwit blockchain
11:15 mircea_popescu nubbins` no, giclee was an actual thing. back before the americans got involved.
11:15 * mircea_popescu used to do art photography, made and sold actual prints etc.
11:15 nubbins` yep and the actual thing was -- a fancy inkjet printer.
11:15 nubbins` full stop.
11:15 mircea_popescu not really, no.
11:15 * nubbins` nods
11:15 nubbins` really, yep
11:15 mircea_popescu in this sense, you're a fancy woman.
11:15 nubbins` lel
11:15 nubbins` i don't even have the same parts
11:15 mircea_popescu quite.
11:15 mircea_popescu hey, you got lungs and a liver, so...
11:16 nubbins` heh.
11:16 nubbins` but in total seriousness, giclee was originally meant to specifically refer to printouts from IRIS brand printers
11:16 nubbins` which were... inkjets.
11:17 nubbins` (micro piezo heads instead of shit "bubble jet" heads -- the spirit of IRIS lives on in Epson printers today)
11:17 adlai mircea_popescu: that's why you call it a segradoodled addroose, instead of bitcoin
11:17 nubbins` micro piezo = voltage-controlled ink density
11:17 mircea_popescu anyway. the machine used, an iris printer, uses fine glass rods under high pressure, which print continuously.
11:17 adlai the Sufficiently Smart Econ should be able to tell them apart
11:17 mircea_popescu there is SOME similarity with inkjet, exactly of the nature of nubbins` womanhood.
11:17 adlai humans are another story, but they're allowed to fend for themselves
11:18 mircea_popescu nubbins` right. you ever seen either the thing or its output ?
11:19 mircea_popescu the damned thing worked in the mhz, not the khz stuff epson piezo does
11:19 mircea_popescu (not that even so reduced it's visibly better than the other inkjets)
11:19 nubbins` now we're measuring intercourse by the speed of thrusts?
11:20 mircea_popescu no, we're measuring fine-ness by the... fine-ness!
11:20 nubbins` anyway you're correct, turns out IRIS printers use electrostatic too
11:20 mircea_popescu anyway. plenty of people who saw the item and its products actually blew the 100k or w/e it cost (ie, the cost of like a dozen houses in the us at the time)
11:20 mircea_popescu because it actually was that good.
11:20 * nubbins` nods
11:20 nubbins` have seen "authentic" giclees, they're a rare bird these days
11:21 mircea_popescu anyway. my abandoning the entire "art photography" thing is pretty much in step with iris' demise as a thing.
11:21 nubbins` iirc epson picked up the fine-art slack when IRIS declined
11:21 mircea_popescu nubbins` i do mean fresh tho
11:21 mircea_popescu the unfortunate thing with them is that 10 yr is not the same as 10 hr.
11:21 adlai ok, candidate #2: "I don't know what language it'll be in, but by the time trb prints a code, it'll be with sticks and stones"
11:21 nubbins` yeah
11:21 nubbins` ink longevity has come a long way since then too
11:21 mircea_popescu couirse we didn't really know this in the 90s
11:22 mircea_popescu imo the entire giclee thing is how we fdound out.
11:22 * nubbins` uses dye inks rather than pigments, (perhaps foolishly) choosing gamut over lightfastness
11:22 mircea_popescu yeah welll....
11:23 nubbins` gamut and color accuracy over lightfastness, even.
11:23 mircea_popescu in honesty i don't think the sort of people still are made today, but you can't imagine the worldending chagrin and sadness of someone who truly loved a print
11:23 nubbins` but TBF the only things i actually digitally-print end up sandwiched between book covers
11:23 mircea_popescu which faded.
11:23 nubbins` mircea_popescu +1
11:24 nubbins` i occasionally silkscreen posters for outdoor usage; imagine my pride upon discovering, in late April, a poster I'd adhered to an outdoor pole in early november
11:24 nubbins` still immaculately vibrant after spending an entire Canadian winter outdoors
11:24 nubbins` and i mean the black was still JET fucking black.
11:24 * nubbins` has moved onto "automotive grade" urethane-based inks for fine art prints
11:27 * adlai has a foaf who nubbins`ed out of 'industrial design' into bending neon signs by hand
11:27 nubbins` ID will give you ED. smart fella
11:28 * nubbins` has never experienced such low cortisol levels as those he's consistently enjoyed since Feb 2013
11:29 * adlai got another followup to a job interview thread, and honestly doesn't know whether its worth picking up
11:29 adlai ultimately any 'dev wanted' posting answered these days devolves into blubbery faster than you can spell iojs
11:30 nubbins` "wanted: someone less stupid than me"
11:31 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214589.msg13216402#msg13216402 in which nubs emphasizes the importance of pedigree
11:31 assbot [WTB/WTS] Casascius Holo Error / Collectible Marketplace ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qj4ptQ )
11:32 * adlai spends his play arms length away from a pedigree-free half-btc casascoin
11:32 mircea_popescu <nubbins`> "wanted: someone less stupid than me" << no joke.
11:32 adlai it's fun to toss between palms but not good for much else
11:33 nubbins` i peeled a casascius coin once, fleeting sense of exhilaration
11:33 thestringpuller i haven't peeled teh casascius coin i bought int 2012
11:33 nubbins` tbh you're not missing much
11:34 nubbins` i only have like nine of these fuckers left
11:34 mircea_popescu in system design news, here's a good metaphore for os : http://40.media.tumblr.com/2d9ed53986ac1903da784fa9071c1495/tumblr_mftqw37zm61riedhko1_1280.jpg
11:34 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qj4MVo )
11:34 * nubbins` will likely sell 3-4 more and hoard remainder forever
11:34 nubbins` altho people buying privately-minted silver rounds for > 9000 is hard to resist
11:37 nubbins` https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3wdq1s/as_a_journalist_its_harder_to_use_rbitcoin_for/
11:37 assbot As a journalist, it's harder to use /r/bitcoin for story sources when the comment scores are hidden. I used to use the comments for additional information, but now I don't know which have been highly vetted, and which haven't. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1TFCwdq )
11:37 nubbins` elelel.
11:38 nubbins` "as a journalist" (username the_daily_decrypt), i am 100% unable to categorize new information as "bullshit" or "worthy"
11:39 * adlai must lack the right lsd for comment scores to be hidden, or for that matter, matter
11:40 adlai if i had a cent for each time a new mod asked how to undisable downvotes in custom css, i wouldn't need to open my own quadlemma!
11:40 trinque you mean like... enable?
11:41 adlai many subreddits disable the downvote link using custom css, you can still downvote but Web 2.0 won't let you know
11:42 nubbins` lel
11:42 nubbins` srsly just style="visibility:hidden;"?
11:42 nubbins` platform of tomorrow!
11:43 * adlai never investigated far enough to tell, but the "use custom css" uncheckbox overcomes it
11:43 trinque ah the dissonance between "democracy works" and "don't judge me; we're all equal"
11:43 * trinque flies his buttered toast ship to the coffee pot
11:43 adlai just wait, someday they'll beg to buy ballots on the open market and nobody will take their tainted covenantcoins
11:43 * nubbins` flies his rolling hands to the girl scout cookies ship
11:44 nubbins` that whooshing is everyone except vexual missing the joke
11:44 adlai and how do you know he got it?
11:44 nubbins` satoshi doesn't miss much
11:46 adlai that whooshing is everyone except gwern getting the joke
11:55 mircea_popescu <nubbins`> srsly just style="visibility:hidden;"? << you're out of line!
11:57 fluffypony adlai: you can disable subreddit styles, and mobile clients like Alien Blue ignore styling anyway
11:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18115 @ 0.00048861 = 8.8512 BTC [+] {2}
11:57 fluffypony so I think it's more to "encourage unity" or something equally stupid
11:58 adlai did i say to leave the uncheck unboxed?
11:59 * fluffypony can't parse that sentence
11:59 fluffypony not enough wine
11:59 adlai !b 16
11:59 assbot Last 16 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0RYW9PA.txt )
11:59 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/max29x << random guy that's handspamming trilema.
11:59 assbot max (@max29x) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qj7aLL )
12:00 mircea_popescu i guess selling bestiality must be hard given that... nobody cares.
12:00 mircea_popescu yet supposedly there's goldsteins out there making billions out of selling child porn, an item about as highly demanded as bestiality.
12:00 mircea_popescu the wonders of overgrown states.
12:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50450 @ 0.00048109 = 24.271 BTC [-] {5}
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12:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25307 @ 0.00047822 = 12.1023 BTC [-] {2}
12:33 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
12:33 ascii_field http://www.tvnewsinsider.com/story/fla-station-airs-vulgar-version-of-government-logo
12:33 assbot 'Fla. station airs vulgar version of government logo' on TVNewsInsider ... ( http://bit.ly/1TFJy1O )
12:34 ascii_field 'WBBH-TV, the NBC affiliate in Ft. Myers, Fla. aired what it thought was the Department of Homeland Security seal but turned out to be a doctored image with a vulgar hidden meaning...'
12:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43900 @ 0.00047822 = 20.9939 BTC [-] {2}
12:46 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341260 << was it uv ?
12:46 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 16:23:13; mircea_popescu: in honesty i don't think the sort of people still are made today, but you can't imagine the worldending chagrin and sadness of someone who truly loved a print
12:46 ascii_field (if it was - then the decay rate was quite easy to test from day 1)
12:48 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341272 << when ad mentions a programming lang - yes
12:48 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 16:29:47; adlai: ultimately any 'dev wanted' posting answered these days devolves into blubbery faster than you can spell iojs
12:49 adlai anything identifiable enough to be mentioned in a job posting is probably also a dealbreaker for thinking brains
12:55 ascii_field 'All the type at Lumiere Press is cast in lead on a 1950s Intertype machine model C-4. It is a wondrous machine whose precursor, the Linotype, was invented in 1886.'
12:55 ascii_field neato
12:55 ascii_field but why only 1 level of retro
12:55 ascii_field why not print on gutenberg press.
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13:10 nubbins` !up ascii_field
13:10 nubbins` prob du8e8 t8o u8na8va8ila8bili8ty8 9)888
13:11 nubbins` aka the day nubs' 8 key stuck
13:11 * nubbins` spilled a coffee on macbook some months ago
13:12 nubbins` ascii_field i have a friend who's "into" religion (anthro style), has a reproduction of 1st edition gutenberg bible
13:12 nubbins` so, so, so many errors
13:12 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Federal Reserve will raise interest rate at December FOMC meeting - http://bitbet.us/bet/1221/federal-reserve-will-raise-interest-rate-at-december/#b30
13:12 nubbins` blank pages, garbled type, erroneous symbols in margins, whole works
13:13 * nubbins` imagines that "so" works in finance and lurks in #b-a so computer can beep and bloop & make it appear like he's working
13:19 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
13:19 ascii_field https://www.rt.com/news/325593-fast-neutron-nuclear-reactor
13:19 assbot World’s most powerful fast neutron reactor starts supplying electricity to grid — RT News ... ( http://bit.ly/1HYQCGd )
13:22 adlai now that's a market to bet on
13:29 adlai consensus, made in china
13:32 adlai https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/190597?p=ws_hacked&rd=1 censorship, californicated
13:32 assbot "This site may be hacked" message - Search Help ... ( http://bit.ly/1HYRv1v )
13:37 ben_vulpes https://gcaptain.com/littoral-combat-ships-mine-hunting-drones-cant-find-mines-pentagon-finds/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Gcaptain+%28gCaptain.com%29
13:37 assbot Littoral Combat Ships' Mine-Hunting Drones Can't Find Mines, Pentagon Finds - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1HYS4bK )
13:37 ben_vulpes ;;calc 864000000/54
13:37 gribble 16000000
13:39 adlai more from the "expensive signals to fake" department: the S.MPOE inverse correlation with btcfiat continues to decrease
13:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37421 @ 0.00047807 = 17.8899 BTC [-] {3}
14:01 mircea_popescu in old icebox news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/973d6391b95bd5584e86b75c7eba02bb/tumblr_mgfjk2QT7z1r87wz9o1_1280.jpg
14:02 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1HYUdEa )
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14:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39972 @ 0.00048029 = 19.1982 BTC [+] {2}
14:34 mircea_popescu sooo nubbins` : just had blt ranchero with some absolutely splendid kimchi
14:34 mircea_popescu bought from korean fambly in b-a chinatown.
14:35 mircea_popescu other interesting things from chinatown : gran masala because wtf is this garam thing, and ciruelas bombom
14:35 mircea_popescu because whatever, sweet drops, woman's buns, same diff.
14:37 nubbins` i should make more kimchi
14:38 nubbins` only imported/canned available locally
14:40 mircea_popescu epic stuff.
14:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29351 @ 0.00047794 = 14.028 BTC [-]
14:41 mircea_popescu in other lolz, https://blockchain.info/tx/85596cf32b2d6f0d09b21a565c0f69a6472e1055c6fcfa603ce5c8c067b45905?show_adv=true
14:41 assbot Bitcoin Transaction 85596cf32b2d6f0d09b21a565c0f69a6472e1055c6fcfa603ce5c8c067b45905 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ue1KRa )
14:42 mircea_popescu not even two cents' worth of opining ;/
14:48 mircea_popescu in other news, million euro in jools stolen from high ticket store right across from hollande's office.
14:51 shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341371 <<< redditard spent his entire btc stash just to say that?
14:51 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 19:41:55; mircea_popescu: in other lolz, https://blockchain.info/tx/85596cf32b2d6f0d09b21a565c0f69a6472e1055c6fcfa603ce5c8c067b45905?show_adv=true
14:52 * adlai is disappointed they didn't even take the time to use deeddust in the spray cannisters
15:07 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
15:07 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341360 << holy shit is that a zil
15:07 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 19:01:59; mircea_popescu: in old icebox news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/973d6391b95bd5584e86b75c7eba02bb/tumblr_mgfjk2QT7z1r87wz9o1_1280.jpg
15:18 ascii_field ;;nethash
15:18 gribble 733459348.999
15:20 * ascii_field wonders about the legendary inflection point where we start seeing airstrikes on miner positions
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15:37 adlai that'd be a better backdrop to the end of fight club
15:38 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
15:38 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
15:38 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 450.0, vol: 24395.95536187 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 441.998, vol: 17369.13253 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 453.1, vol: 59026.92197416 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 430.0, vol: 1.16258652 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 461.745, vol: 126519.11020000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 445.0, vol: 462.85897408 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 445.2559006, vol: 131.28067782 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
15:38 BingoBoingo ;;more
15:38 gribble 456.700128229
15:39 kakobrekla ascii_field> https://www.rt.com/news/325593-fast-neutron-nuclear-reactor < https://cdn.rt.com/files/2015.12/original/566a999cc46188a81d8b4603.jpg , runs win xp
15:39 assbot World’s most powerful fast neutron reactor starts supplying electricity to grid — RT News ... ( http://bit.ly/1HYQCGd )
15:39 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1UefY4s )
15:40 ascii_field kakobrekla: aha!
15:40 ascii_field surprised ?
15:40 nubbins` khaled mardam-bey is both satoshi and mp
15:40 kakobrekla i guess i am
15:41 adlai !s khaled mardam-bey
15:41 assbot 0 results for 'khaled mardam-bey' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=khaled+mardam-bey
15:43 nubbins` part of my function here is to generate homework
15:44 BingoBoingo http://developers.slashdot.org/story/15/12/11/1915248/ted-cruz-wants-minimum-h-1b-wage-of-110000
15:44 assbot Ted Cruz Wants Minimum H-1B Wage of $110,000 - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IKmq1N )
15:44 BingoBoingo Must pay immigrunt moat
15:44 danielpbarron isn't that the mirc guy?
15:45 nubbins` ding ding ding
15:45 adlai what inverse blockheight does he piss from?
15:45 ascii_field l0l betcha he's a mega-realestate hodler
15:54 shinohai Saw this: https://twitter.com/eordano/status/675397298843701249 ,couldn't help but remember: http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-in-argentina-exactly-nothing-to-do-with-the-derps/
15:54 assbot Bitcoin in Argentina : exactly nothing to do with the derps on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1eCTVVg )
16:05 mircea_popescu ascii_field zil and thou shalt moroze!
16:05 * ascii_field falls down
16:06 mircea_popescu o look at that, 450!
16:07 mircea_popescu nuddin's hey i don't even use mirc!
16:08 mircea_popescu shinohai it's generally more productive to link derps to trilema than me to derps.
16:16 BingoBoingo So has it officially yet gone from feeling a lot like 2012 to feeling disturbingly like 2012?
16:19 nubbins` mIRCea_popescu
16:19 nubbins` likely story buddy
16:21 mircea_popescu damn
16:21 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo bitcoin is for people with a 6mo memory. what is this 2012 you speak of.
16:21 BingoBoingo lol
16:22 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:22 ascii_field www.cryptool.org << would be interesting to see a non-retarded version of this (demo tool for students)
16:23 ascii_field http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-H-c6s8Dy4nY/VKbxi4SpGvI/AAAAAAAAAAw/aBH2R4cd0jI/s1600/CT2-Beta7b%2BBrute-force%2BKeySearcher.jpg << screenshit
16:23 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZ6tEO )
16:24 ascii_field http://www.limited-entropy.com << unrelated, pretty spiffy site
16:24 assbot Limited Entropy Dot Com ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZ6Dfm )
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16:40 adlai signs your OS may be ossifying into usgification: `git svn clone` conjures up KDE Wallet Manager on a separate machine's X display
16:40 ascii_field https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3wd59b/whats_the_dodgiest_thing_you_can_do_thats_not/cxvbcl5 << lulzy, 'robosigning'
16:40 assbot reddit.com: over 18? ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZ99lQ )
16:50 mircea_popescu soo.... one thing to do if it's hot and you got a buncha spare girls : have them take cold shower by a 5 minute offset, towel off and then make out with pleasantly cool girl for five minutes
16:50 mircea_popescu during an hour +-
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17:09 mircea_popescu if you happen to live in argentina you can also get the whole ensemble a la mode.
17:09 mircea_popescu and holy shit that alf link. "You can ask for the Buns of a different sandwich. Most people don't know that. Like get Big Mac buns on a mc double"
17:09 mircea_popescu check it out, the richest country on earth meets restaurants. "what do you mean, i can tell them what i want and they'll get it for me ?!?!?!"
17:21 BingoBoingo lol, as if I care >> "If you have any Add Blockers installed in your browser, you will not be able to see this page as was intended."
17:27 BingoBoingo Related: http://www.stltoday.com/news/ban-on-abortions-because-of-down-syndrome-diagnosis-proposed/article_c0b50a3e-4c2e-5c4d-9e7a-99c0b50c9f49.html
17:31 mircea_popescu derp.
17:31 mircea_popescu what about mandatory abortions for down syndrome.
17:32 mircea_popescu men can't smoke, women can spawn retards ? da fuck backwards world is this.
17:33 BingoBoingo Still related, why would anyone want to be the Uni's chancellor when they can coach? http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/eye-on-the-tigers/mizzou-sets-odom-s-salary-at-million/article_8b64c5de-139e-5918-8abf-c93bf3c0906b.html
17:33 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1lUWtC0 )
17:33 BingoBoingo "Odom, Mizzou's defensive coordinator this past season, will make a base salary of $450,000, plus a guaranteed non-salary compensation amount of $1,900,000, which covers four areas each paying $475,000: radio appearances, television appearances, apparel rights and public relations and stewardship appearances."
17:34 BingoBoingo Dat upward mobility: "Odom was making $625,000 as Missouri's defensive coordinator. Just four years ago the former Mizzou linebacker was making $200,000 as the Tigers' safeties coach."
17:34 adlai ;;seen psztorc
17:34 gribble psztorc was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 weeks, 2 days, 17 hours, 13 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <psztorc> Au revoir.
17:36 BingoBoingo Nao to lift mircea_popescu 's mood, police chase aborted http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/state-and-regional/missouri-trooper-injured-by-glass-fragments-during-chase/article_9cda1a09-cf12-5914-8f05-cf63fcb3ee26.html
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17:54 adlai deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/37FCBKF.txt
17:54 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NLpc7j )
17:54 deedbot- accepted: 1
17:59 adlai iirc psztorc is being disingenious to backopy, who closed shop due to rocketship ticket purchase, rather than bankrupcy
18:00 * danielpbarron is in favor of the death penalty for doctors and women who provide and seek abortions
18:02 BingoBoingo If anything more abortions would be a fine thing. It would just be nice if abortions didn't require finding clinics oriented towards correcting one's political health.
18:02 * adlai is in favor of death penalties for those who are in favor of warrants in all forms - arrest, execution, stock, etc. leads to a 'more polite society'...
18:03 danielpbarron aborted babies go to hell
18:04 adlai i'd rather have hell overrun by the cries of aborted "babies" than the anguish of wasted lives
18:04 BingoBoingo aborted babies chill in purgatory with their blade hands.
18:04 danielpbarron there is no purgatory
18:05 BingoBoingo Purgatory is where crossfitters go for being so close and yet so far from following the path of Broseidon.
18:15 danielpbarron I'm all for letting kids play outside and getting hurt, and even if that means the weak ones get killed. But to preemptively murder them, before they can even hurt themselves, and for the mother's convenience (when it is her due punishment to have pains in child bearing as per the fall in the garden of eden), is reprehensible.
18:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48800 @ 0.0004824 = 23.5411 BTC [+] {3}
18:17 danielpbarron having to raise a child with down syndrome is not a waste of a life, especially in light of the fact that when fed a special diet these children can actually thrive
18:21 danielpbarron http://gotdownsyndrome.blogspot.com/
18:21 assbot Got Down Syndrome's Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTxgP1 )
18:23 funkenstein_ danielpbarron, do condom users also go to "hell"?
18:23 mircea_popescu point remains, if you're going to "ban smoking" because "smoking is bad" you gotta ban down syndrome births.
18:24 mircea_popescu becuse.,.. you guessed it, "down syndrome is bad"
18:24 danielpbarron isn't down syndrome more like obesity, in that it is one step removed from whatever the bad thing is?
18:24 danielpbarron funkenstein_, no
18:25 mircea_popescu not really. it's a congenital defect. as fundamentally broken as it gets.
18:26 danielpbarron at any rate, it's not the choice of anyone that someone has the syndrome is it?
18:26 funkenstein_ i guess there's no appeal to logic with fantasy locations transport systems then, surprise surprise
18:26 danielpbarron well I'm not part of the "every sperm is sacred" camp
18:26 danielpbarron not against masturbation either
18:27 mircea_popescu danielpbarron well depends how you construe choice.
18:27 funkenstein_ how about menstruation? seems to get a bad rep around here
18:27 mircea_popescu but it must be pointed out that as many as 1/3 of all pregnancies are electively aborted by the woman anyway.
18:27 mircea_popescu there's dozens of different mechanisms which dictate spontaneous abortion.
18:28 danielpbarron funkenstein_, what about it? having sex during it should also be punished with execution but other than that..
18:28 deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Doctor Zhivago - http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/11/doctor-zhivago/
18:28 mircea_popescu oral sex or generally ?
18:28 danielpbarron generally
18:29 mircea_popescu handjobs ?
18:29 danielpbarron lol
18:29 funkenstein_ "should be punished" <-- lol
18:29 mircea_popescu can the woman rub one off if she's on the rag ?
18:29 mircea_popescu vaguely related http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stefonknee-wolschtt-transgender-father-leaves-family-in-toronto-to-start-new-life-as-a-six-year-old-a6769051.html
18:29 assbot Transgender father Stefonknee Wolschtt leaves family in Toronto to start new life as six-year-old girl | Americas | News | The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTz36A )
18:30 danielpbarron http://www.atruechurch.info/sexduringmenstruation.html >> You shall not approach a woman to uncover her nakedness as long as she is in her customary impurity. (Leviticus 18:19)
18:31 danielpbarron so i guess that's sorta a no on hand stuff
18:31 mircea_popescu what if she suycks you off dressed ?
18:32 funkenstein_ a tradition also practiced by amazonian cultures
18:32 mircea_popescu suppose you sit down to have a meal, there's this great broad at the other table, you seduce her and she sucks you off in the toilet. gotta ask if she's on her period first ?
18:32 danielpbarron can't you just get some head from one of your other wives?
18:32 mircea_popescu well sure you could, it's not a matter of need.
18:33 BingoBoingo What if you skip the wife label entirely and just keep concubines?
18:33 mircea_popescu technically speaking one could just sit down and shut up for the next 50 years. but that doesn't mean one should, necessarily.
18:33 danielpbarron a concubine is a slave wife
18:33 mircea_popescu what, everything is everything else ?!
18:33 danielpbarron in the "great broad" example, it sounds like some sort of adultery or fornication is taking place, or else you would marry her first
18:34 mircea_popescu hm
18:34 mircea_popescu suppose you mary the entire town first.
18:35 mircea_popescu also, the thing with harems is the chicks synchronize periods.
18:37 adlai this is how he tempts you, for he is jealous of your fleshy posessions from his vaporware cloud hosting
18:38 danielpbarron as someone with zero wives, I don't have much sympathy for the guy who has to take periodic break from sex on account of his whole harem menstruating simultaneously
18:39 funkenstein_ https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12346483_10156252745655612_7687861402936937132_n.jpg?oh=6a63ecee0dadbdb0d1e57125b925f01b&oe=571FED44
18:39 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTAzFW )
18:41 funkenstein_ danielpbarron, I'm an ordained minister i'd be happy to marry you remotely
18:42 danielpbarron ordained by who?
18:42 mircea_popescu danielpbarron well wait, it gotta be based on principle not how it makes you feel.
18:42 funkenstein_ universal life church
18:42 BingoBoingo of Modesto California
18:43 mircea_popescu which one is that one funkenstein_ ?
18:43 danielpbarron mircea_popescu, it seems to me that the guy with the harem is probably the one tasked with setting the rules for the whole town. So that's that.
18:43 BingoBoingo funkenstein_: Gotta use that full name to make people know you are srs about it
18:43 BingoBoingo http://ulchq.org
18:43 funkenstein_ BingoBoingo, thanks :) indeed
18:43 deedbot- [Qntra] Missouri Phone Purchases Put Police On Edge - http://qntra.net/2015/12/missouri-phone-purchases-put-police-on-edge/
18:43 * mircea_popescu doesn't seem much problem with fucking bleeding woman. a) sex can lead to bleeding anyway and b) you're fucking hr in the ass, might as well.
18:44 BingoBoingo !b 1
18:44 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1WCD6S3.txt )
18:44 mircea_popescu granted, eating her out during her period is fucking weird/
18:45 mircea_popescu so blondy ditched your ass then danielpbarron ?
18:45 danielpbarron funkenstein_, probably a false church although I don't know that one in particular
18:45 danielpbarron lol what blondy?
18:45 mircea_popescu what was her name
18:45 mircea_popescu julia!
18:45 mircea_popescu do it to julia!
18:46 danielpbarron i guess so huh
18:46 mircea_popescu tsk tsk.
18:46 * danielpbarron shrugs
18:47 mircea_popescu in related news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/3505bee3e62cd01ca40c804cd23fe028/tumblr_mfl6mmnqAT1rfc12eo7_1280.jpg
18:47 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTBINI )
18:53 BingoBoingo https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/718251
18:53 assbot Sick of Fatties Saying Models Trigger EDs | fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTCom6 )
18:55 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341460 << ahahahaha sure l0l
18:55 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 23:17:54; danielpbarron: having to raise a child with down syndrome is not a waste of a life, especially in light of the fact that when fed a special diet these children can actually thrive
18:55 asciilifeform tard army! what makes amerikkkka great!11111
18:56 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341478 << see also pelevin's riotously funny doctor gulago
18:56 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 23:28:10; deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Doctor Zhivago - http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/11/doctor-zhivago/
18:59 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341517 << the only practical issue is overlubrication, really
18:59 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 23:43:49; *: mircea_popescu doesn't seem much problem with fucking bleeding woman. a) sex can lead to bleeding anyway and b) you're fucking hr in the ass, might as well.
19:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15502 @ 0.00048337 = 7.4932 BTC [+] {2}
19:03 asciilifeform ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/12/missouri-phone-purchases-put-police-on-edge/#comment-82088
19:03 assbot Missouri Phone Purchases Put Police On Edge | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTDK08 )
19:03 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:05 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2015/12/missouri-phone-purchases-put-police-on-edge/#comment-82090
19:05 assbot Missouri Phone Purchases Put Police On Edge | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTE8ff )
19:07 asciilifeform if the implication of the nyooz piece is a 'gunpowder plot' involving propane bottles and gsm detonators, expect 'emergency powerz' in the near term
19:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform "blood is the best lubricant. well, other than tears" line of thought ?
19:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha but there is such a thing as too much. ultimately the activity needs friction
19:08 asciilifeform or we'd all happily fuck thin air
19:08 mircea_popescu that's what the pubococcygeus is for!
19:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18878 @ 0.00048337 = 9.1251 BTC [+] {2}
19:09 asciilifeform obligatory: http://www.theinfosphere.org/Kegelcizer
19:09 assbot Kegelcizer - The Infosphere, the Futurama Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1NLvnrX )
19:10 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i dun get it... so the news is that some people bought some phones in bunfuck ?
19:10 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341452 << see also mega-shortstory, 'watchbird', r. sheckley
19:10 assbot Logged on 11-12-2015 23:02:50; *: adlai is in favor of death penalties for those who are in favor of warrants in all forms - arrest, execution, stock, etc. leads to a 'more polite society'...
19:10 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: News is that + Police cared + Police push narrative cheap phnoes are untouchable
19:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: by the crateful, in two sittings, by 'evil-looking men with foreign accents'
19:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48884 @ 0.00048272 = 23.5973 BTC [-] {3}
19:12 mircea_popescu i guess huh.
19:12 asciilifeform phun phakt: legendarily, the columbine incident involved a propane tank
19:12 asciilifeform but this is largely forgotten, because h & k were not clueful and failed to detonate
19:13 asciilifeform (if it had gone off, potentially ~no one would know~ who was the trigger man, and why, etc)
19:13 mircea_popescu i don't get this. propane tank has significantly lower potential than gasoline bucket. harder to handle. why bother.
19:13 asciilifeform fuel-air
19:13 asciilifeform good kinetics.
19:13 mircea_popescu this is disadvantageous.
19:13 mircea_popescu gasoline covers surfaces.
19:13 mircea_popescu air burning is a waste of fuel.
19:13 asciilifeform demolition is entirely a kinetics thing and not at all a thermodynamic thing
19:14 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: But "Action Movie" says so
19:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you're not demolishing anything with a propane tank.
19:14 asciilifeform (e.g., dynamite has considerably less joule/g vs petrol)
19:14 asciilifeform with solely a tank - no.
19:15 mircea_popescu now dump that much gasoline on the fake carpeting and set it ablaze.
19:15 BingoBoingo Propane tank thefts likely seriously not connected. Prolly just meth cooks.
19:15 asciilifeform !s happyland
19:15 assbot 2 results for 'happyland' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=happyland
19:15 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo wouldn't they just buy it ?
19:15 mircea_popescu meth cooking does make money, right ?
19:15 mircea_popescu it's not just a hobby for retards.
19:15 BingoBoingo Not when cooking for self
19:15 BingoBoingo Turrorists bought pnohes
19:16 asciilifeform phun phakt: meth was reinvented in su during 1980s. but there was more or less NO MARKET because folks were clueful and readily synthesized for personal use
19:16 asciilifeform from (at the time) readily available items
19:17 adlai asciilifeform: care to elaborate on http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=406 ?
19:17 assbot #bitcoin-assets bash ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTGgnb )
19:18 asciilifeform adlai: can start here, http://www.embedded.com/design/safety-and-security/4419247/Developing-secure-code-using-SPARK--Part-2---How-to-use-it
19:18 assbot Developing secure code using SPARK: Part 2 – How to use it | Embedded ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTGpah )
19:18 asciilifeform just to get a taste.
19:19 asciilifeform adlai: http://www.adacore.com/knowledge/technical-papers/safe-secure << moar examples than you could possibly want (warning, pdf)
19:19 assbot Safe and Secure Software - An invitation to Ada 2005 | Technical Papers | Knowledge Center | AdaCore ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTGJWm )
19:21 mircea_popescu !up amiller
19:21 * adlai dons gasmask
19:22 mircea_popescu in bathroom news, http://45.media.tumblr.com/02dd3bcf6021173f9927b38d126aada2/tumblr_meowu6E1a71rqttn1o1_500.gif
19:22 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTH63c )
19:23 asciilifeform adlai: http://cs.fit.edu/~ryan/ada/programs << mega-collection of examples
19:23 assbot Ada Programs ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTHkaB )
19:24 asciilifeform in spiffy colour even.
19:28 * adlai can't find the specific example in the mega-collection of naggums, but he's looking for something other than toy examples... manuals are always welcome references, as are anecdotes that would be worth including in their margins
19:28 asciilifeform adlai: the ultimate non-toy example is... the compiler
19:28 asciilifeform (written in ada, yes)
19:30 asciilifeform this being said, the language is not a favourite among the open sores crowd and so you will not find a great many full-length megaprojects in public
19:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59541 @ 0.00048187 = 28.691 BTC [-] {2}
19:31 asciilifeform aside from this, http://www.seas.gwu.edu/~mfeldman/ada-project-summary.html
19:31 assbot Who's Using Ada? ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTIvHd )
19:32 asciilifeform adlai: if you want the manual, it can be had; be sure to get the 'rationale' document also
19:33 asciilifeform it comes with 'chapter & verse' concordance (like a bible)
19:35 adlai yes i've been looping through its tasking facility for months (years?)
19:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45450 @ 0.00048482 = 22.0351 BTC [+] {4}
19:52 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg13210862#msg13210862 << cryptsy finally pulls the runner.
19:52 assbot CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTLAH9 )
19:53 BingoBoingo Oh shit. I gotta go to my meeting. If anyone wants to do this in the next 2 hours it would be appreciated. Otherwise I'll write something up after sobertime.
19:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69750 @ 0.00047809 = 33.3468 BTC [-] {6}
19:55 mircea_popescu it's just cryptsy. 3/10 shits given, if that.
19:56 BingoBoingo Of course it's just one of those small lumpy constipation shits, but a win is a win.
19:56 BingoBoingo brb
20:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33700 @ 0.00047702 = 16.0756 BTC [-] {3}
20:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57200 @ 0.00047702 = 27.2855 BTC [-] {2}
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20:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49153 @ 0.00047927 = 23.5576 BTC [+] {2}
20:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39051 @ 0.00047949 = 18.7246 BTC [+] {3}
21:01 asciilifeform http://foto-history.livejournal.com/8378510.html << historical interest, re: punishments.
21:01 asciilifeform (focus on asian flavours)
21:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131550 @ 0.000477 = 62.7494 BTC [-] {7}
21:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28450 @ 0.00048348 = 13.755 BTC [+] {2}
21:08 shinohai https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/16181/115662641.71/0_135a47_a6c4327c_orig.jpg <<< well that one is rather grim, assbot
21:08 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3BpuO )
21:08 shinohai * asciilifeform
21:09 asciilifeform shinohai: caption is, 'trophy' of dja-lama - a skin 'artistically' removed from a live kyrghyzian warrior
21:09 asciilifeform n00bs seem to think that isis et al are the first folks to partake in this kind of sport with modern cameras rolling, but this is not so.
21:10 danielpbarron from the crypty lulz >> Maybe also using other alts to withdraw your money could work but as I read many people discussed that some alts work, some other don't so I used the same way to get out as I got in via Doge. << rather than get outa dodge it's get out via doge!
21:11 mircea_popescu https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9168/115662641.71/0_135a2a_22176fb0_orig.jpg << nb.
21:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nh62Vn )
21:11 asciilifeform that one's famous
21:11 asciilifeform iirc - nanjing
21:11 mircea_popescu aha. great pic.
21:11 asciilifeform quite anatomically illustrative !
21:12 mircea_popescu yup
21:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45080 @ 0.0004819 = 21.7241 BTC [-] {2}
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21:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00048481 = 10.5689 BTC [+] {3}
21:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115604 @ 0.00048685 = 56.2818 BTC [+] {3}
21:42 adlai anything more tangible than http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2014#705346 regarding its validity for bitbet resolution?
21:42 assbot Logged on 06-06-2014 13:20:54; dub: bittrex looks ok, seems to be real people
21:43 mircea_popescu !s bittrex
21:43 assbot 30 results for 'bittrex' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bittrex
21:43 * adlai saved you the other 29
21:43 shinohai lol buttrex
21:44 mircea_popescu seemz a lulsfest.
21:44 asciilifeform in other despatches from the dept.-of-things-i-had-no-idea-i-needed, http://www.alchemywebsite.com/bookshop/reading_texts_course.html
21:44 assbot Study Course on Reading alchemical texts ... ( http://bit.ly/1IKURFm )
21:44 mircea_popescu * Loaded log from Fri Dec 12 02:17:53 2014
21:44 mircea_popescu heh!
21:44 asciilifeform 'How to read alchemical texts An introductory study course for the perplexed'
21:45 mircea_popescu asciilifeform hermeneutics is a thing yo.
21:45 asciilifeform aha!
21:45 * adlai retires to meditate on upon shorting in the age of crippled markets
21:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00048687 = 14.4114 BTC [+]
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22:13 adlai !v assbot:adlai.rate.luke-jr.10:0c6030d0625cf90570bf09dce24b99a56dfb5a99bdb26b22ab8cfd7695c05c55
22:13 assbot Successfully updated the rating for luke-jr from 10 to 10 with note: highly amusing, misunderestimatood architect of OP_CONSEQUENCEVERIFY
22:14 danielpbarron wtf 10 !?
22:14 adlai stopping to hurl threats at lemmings for long enough to watch them play in their own language does a world of good to your blood pressure
22:15 adlai anybody who cares to find out what that rating means can probably understand it from reviewing the background to all the !s drama
22:18 danielpbarron !rated Luke-Jr
22:18 assbot You rated user Luke-Jr on 16-Dec-2014, with a rating of -6, and supplied these additional notes: He tried to add blacklisting to bitcoin..
22:19 adlai once y'all get over the dick measuring you'll realize that supporting larger vN blocks is the cheapest way to reduce vM block capacity, short of paying miners to generate empty blocks, or the existence of a free market for negative block space
22:21 adlai lol yes, another one of my ideas not worth self-censoring is a free market for provable tx censorship... basically anything that gets money a better megaphone to fund its own security
22:22 adlai or properly taglined, "a place for miners to sell the only good they're licensed to manufacture"
22:23 danielpbarron whatever that means, it still remains that bitcoin as it exists today is a giant ball of turd. The priority should be on deturdification before major rule changes, especially considering that no such changes are currently required to ensure its survival
22:23 adlai i didn't say pay the guy to break it
22:26 mircea_popescu adlai if you read carefully, nobody gave a shit at any point about what the congenitally retarded / ustards do in their bathroom.
22:27 mircea_popescu the slaps start flowing once they start talking out of it.
22:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37900 @ 0.00048063 = 18.2159 BTC [-]
22:27 adlai well, "you threw the wrong bitch out the window"
22:27 mircea_popescu impossible by definition.
22:28 mircea_popescu "beat your wife every day. if you don't know why, she does."
22:28 * adlai fails to understand how "let's softfork blabla blabla blabla anything" can be viewed as anything other than playing in the bathtub
22:28 adlai note that neither sipa nor Luke-Jr nor most anybody else is advocating for a hardfork.
22:29 adlai as far as i can tell, the only person who mentions hardforking segwit after this idea is your favorite costume artist
22:29 adlai softforks by definition are a bathtub game between miners and cautious experimenters
22:30 adlai let idiots lose their own money. jeez. i'm done with this topic, back to my usual bullshit
22:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33580 @ 0.00048051 = 16.1355 BTC [-] {2}
22:36 shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2015#1341661 <<< my estimation exactly.
22:36 assbot Logged on 12-12-2015 03:14:22; danielpbarron: wtf 10 !?
22:37 mircea_popescu lol.
22:37 shinohai Wasn't it just last week he was considering doing work for the nvxim cult or whatever it's called?
22:38 adlai !v assbot:adlai.rate.luke-jr.9:42a21f2c611b5b48d8b90a449d8fcdc30b99282e695ebe497f19d43b6c71106c
22:38 assbot Successfully updated the rating for luke-jr from 10 to 9 with note: still claims via solicited PM that he plans to break bitcoin someday
22:40 shinohai The usg would prlly like to have a chat with him then.
22:44 adlai yeah, i left a positive rating so they know he's good for it
22:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28850 @ 0.00048002 = 13.8486 BTC [-]
22:52 BingoBoingo * adlai fails to understand how "let's softfork blabla blabla blabla anything" can be viewed as anything other than playing in the bathtub << The Jim Crow "soft phork" isn't anything near soft in the way previous ones have been. Would blocks still verify on actual bitcoind? Sure. Transactions? lol nope.
22:53 adlai lol you don't have to run code with real money to read it
22:54 BingoBoingo Read what? That there's a link to different data structure where actual signatures are? How the fuck does actual bitcoind get "witnesses"
22:55 adlai bitcoind gets steal-friendly witnesses, from bold experimenters who sacrifice their Bitcoin on the altars of the mine-verify greed-off
22:56 adlai if you'd prefer to stick to Bitcoin, your witnesses remain safe and sound in txins where for better or worse Our Prophet Satoshi intended them to be
22:56 adlai !s writtit
22:56 assbot 1 results for 'writtit' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=writtit
22:58 adlai if you're not a party to testing tepid bathtub nucleation, then you're unable to steal the vJimCrow witnesses
22:59 BingoBoingo "Standards" https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144987773230417&w=2
22:59 shinohai I'm sorry, if the whole history isn't there then *it isn't bitcoin*
23:00 * adlai just ran out of tulip tokens for defending ideas he can neither long nor short, back to midwifing s.mpoe's self-identity crisis
23:00 BingoBoingo Look there somethings you can let the derps fart out in their bubble bath. Some things like this though actually run the risk of being taken seriously by the Chicoms.
23:01 BingoBoingo http://www.fdesouche.com/678995-maitrisons-sexuellement-les-petites-frontistes-decerebrees-engrossons-les-lobs-supprime-une-tribune
23:01 assbot «Maitrisons sexuellement les petites frontistes décérébrées" (Màj) - Fdesouche ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfY99F )
23:03 adlai !s animals anyway
23:03 assbot 3 results for 'animals anyway' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=animals+anyway
23:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00047893 = 12.4522 BTC [-] {2}
23:09 * adlai hates it when the market speaks to him in numbers... or loves it, for they sometimes tickle his whiskers
23:11 adlai ;;seen live.coinbr.com
23:11 gribble I have not seen live.coinbr.com.
23:12 adlai dancing blind today
23:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00047893 = 12.5959 BTC [-] {2}
23:18 BingoBoingo "Based on their findings, Braverman and his coauthor, New York State Commissioner of Health Nirav Shah, M.D., say the BMI threshold for obesity, which now stands at 30, should be lowered to 24 for women and 28 for men." << http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/health/obesity-rates-maybe-worse/
23:18 assbot Obesity rate may be worse than we think - CNN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfZuNZ )
23:20 * adlai is listening to: Ott - Live at Gnomelandia (55:13)
23:22 adlai meh. it's 'signals from bob' and confucius heraclitus s.plato etc etc
23:22 trinque adlai: I saw them live when they were Ott and the All Seeing I.
23:22 * adlai will see them do that same shit in ~14 hours
23:23 trinque was a good show
23:23 adlai in the meat.
23:23 adlai worth the credit card debt.
23:23 * adlai says so before he's even had to liquidate time or btc to repay
23:23 adlai where'd you see them trinque ?
23:24 trinque Portland, at a venue called Branx
23:24 * adlai notes to self that scripts[igs] are to be trusted as far as you can chuckem
23:26 adlai i'd deed something about passing a paper wallet to the asshole who plot twists by turning around and passing the fucking joint before the atom splits, but my hopes are not enough to collect the donation on that one
23:26 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2015#1341667 << how's this work
23:26 assbot Logged on 12-12-2015 03:21:25; adlai: lol yes, another one of my ideas not worth self-censoring is a free market for provable tx censorship... basically anything that gets money a better megaphone to fund its own security
23:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49600 @ 0.00047879 = 23.748 BTC [-] {4}
23:27 adlai negative block space
23:27 adlai trivially verifiable, take your pick of extra shenanigans on top. it's worthless but idiots will pay for it.
23:27 trinque how is that distinct from the txspam "attacks"
23:28 adlai it increases revenue for miners that follow their free market boners, while providing a clearer signal of the hand that rubs them
23:28 asciilifeform i suspect that we'll be seeing some variant of this quite soon
23:28 asciilifeform on a usg scale
23:29 adlai quite possibly, i'm still waiting for luke to explain/publish his crafty draftings
23:29 adlai and/or issue a death warrant on me for trying to build a better mute button for our megaphone
23:30 adlai the magic of bitcoin is that you don't have to press either one of them, you can just shout until the button breaks of its own idiocy
23:30 asciilifeform 'go ahead and transmit your tx to the free^H^H^H^Hterrorist world, but be prepared to wait two years for a confirmation. or you can send to u.s. fed miner and get in the next block.'
23:30 asciilifeform ('legal transactions only')
23:31 adlai really, if it thinks such a scheme will pass, i invite the sexprs into my neural sandbox
23:31 trinque here comes danielpbarron to quote rev 13:16
23:31 asciilifeform did i miss a tray of lsd being passed around earlier.
23:31 adlai what tray, there were only two cubes :(
23:31 trinque probably ott's fault.
23:32 adlai perhaps, the market is known to precede itself
23:33 * adlai waits for marines to kick down some door, see you on the other side of the burlap sack
23:34 asciilifeform adlai: the 'free market for negative block space' follows trivially from the scheme discussed in the old thread, where miner optimizes for fee/byte
23:34 asciilifeform you can occupy as much space as you like by bidding up.
23:35 asciilifeform fill it with whatever.
23:35 adlai and there's no public way to politely request that hashpower babysitters bid down
23:35 asciilifeform 'free market' doesn't come with a 'let's all chill and think and do we really want thermonukefest??' button
23:35 adlai beyond bitchering about relaying as though your nodeship can seed the clouds
23:36 asciilifeform if prisoner's dilemma somehow solved itself, you wouldn't need miners to begin with
23:37 adlai seriously though, i have logs better worth burning my carpal tunnels over, and they tend to come in parenthesized pairs
23:37 adlai (who knew neuron space could be so prosaically constrained!)
23:39 asciilifeform looks like Vexual's vacant chair is finally filled ?
23:39 * adlai at least tries, when picking lsd visions to distill into signed code, to look out for bitcoin's well-being
23:40 * adlai isn't sure what title Vexual's chair ever bore?
23:41 adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-10-2015#1292413 << i'd nominate pete himself for this one :P
23:41 assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 23:19:14; pete_dushenski: if so, there go all my crank theories, right out the window !
23:43 adlai he at least seems to have bought his voice with money, whereas i seem so far to retain it because the wot finds what i say or do sufficiently profitable or funny
23:43 asciilifeform wai wut
23:43 adlai !gettrust
23:43 assbot You need to specify one (or two) nicks.
23:44 adlai ffs whatever happened to context
23:44 * adlai leaves it to the sufficiently motivated plumber
23:44 asciilifeform !gettrust pete_dushenski
23:44 assbot Trust relationship from user asciilifeform to user pete_dushenski: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 13 via 9 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=asciilifeform&to=pete_dushenski | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/pete_dushenski/
23:44 BingoBoingo Wait adlai is this the vexual is satoshi theory?
23:44 adlai nah satoshi is some guy in #zennet who thinks i don't understand O(bullshit)
23:46 * adlai wanted to bitbet short puts on the AGRS altcoin, but it turns out to not even be more than TLS-signed bittrext
23:47 adlai the brains behind it spin a bullshit game that would make robert viragh proud
23:47 * BingoBoingo wonders if there is a 12 step group for LSD adlai can explore, remembers medically induced ibogaine hallucinations likely conntributed to Bill's spiritual experience
23:47 adlai nah bro haven't you heard, it's the self limiting drug
23:48 asciilifeform https://mises.org/library/ten-economic-blunders-history << lulzy, found by chance
23:48 assbot Ten Economic Blunders from History | Mises Daily ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3SJj9 )
23:49 adlai http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1005713 << possibly intriguing for any meth witches in the audience with a poor bullshit game
23:49 assbot PLOS Genetics: Hnrnph1 Is A Quantitative Trait Gene for Methamphetamine Sensitivity ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3SULk )
23:53 adlai bwah 'The market, known as the Policy Analysis Market, or PAM, never got off the ground. Democrat politicians in the Senate uncovered the plan in July 2003 and it was dropped amid public outcry. Ron Wyden, a Democratic senator from Oregon, expressed the prevailing attitude when he said that "The idea of a federal betting parlour on atrocities and terrorism is ridiculous and it's grotesque."'
23:53 asciilifeform ahahaha the admiral poindexter thing
23:54 * adlai didn't realize the oft-mentioned godfather of predixhun markets was behind this
23:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47150 @ 0.00048425 = 22.8324 BTC [+] {5}
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