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00:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00061622 = 6.0081 BTC [-]
00:12 phf gernika, ben_vulpes: new patch, 7129357156859d81c987e210d26ba552fdc49350
00:22 mod6 hanbot: yeah, the guide needs to be updated. It's on the to-do list, just had my hands full lately. I can help you get patched up from v0.5.3.1 if you like. We can work on that this week.
00:26 mod6 Meanwhile, I can offer you a script that I use to patch up through maxint_locks_corrected from v0.5.3.1 -- it's not a guide, but if you read the steps, it's what needs to happen and in what order. The new (forthcoming) guide will be based on these steps: http://dpaste.com/0YVSD6Q.txt
00:26 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1gruaIF )
00:27 mod6 I'm going to be afk for the rest of the night, but I can perhaps talk about it with you tomorrow.
00:38 hanbot mod6 awesome, ty for the script, will check it out!
00:42 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1232890 << 1st from archive's point of view https://archive.is/76hSK
00:42 assbot Logged on 10-08-2015 01:34:01; mircea_popescu: is it just me or is trilema actually the 4th result for pay for your tits
00:42 assbot pay for your tits - Google Search ... ( http://bit.ly/1grw8IZ )
00:42 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213181 << I'd like to transition my twitter bashing of this channel to my own blog, and would like it to be hosted by that BISP thing but not directly, like rent out some space on someone else's thingy. Is this a possibility yet?
00:42 assbot Logged on 26-07-2015 15:35:35; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213082 << did the summarizer of #b-a logs go anywhere ?
00:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00061622 = 4.8065 BTC [-]
00:46 gernika phf looks like cs built!
00:47 phf woot
00:49 danielpbarron !up coderwill
00:49 danielpbarron !gettrust assbot coderwill
00:49 assbot Trust relationship from user assbot to user coderwill: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=coderwill | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/coderwill/
00:50 coderwill thanks
00:50 danielpbarron try verifying it here
00:50 coderwill i was switching my nick, maybe that had something to do w/ it.
00:53 gernika phf: eulora build failed: http://exusiae.kicks-ass.net/share/logs-1439182301.tar.gz
00:53 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1grxp2P )
00:53 phf final boss
00:56 coderwill danielpbarron:
00:57 coderwill when you said "verify" did you mean try to !up again?
01:00 coderwill side note - saw citizenfour last night. am having trouble grasping how high school drop-out supposedly gained access to all kinds of stuff across all kinds of platforms by the age of 29. somethings seems off w/ that whole thing.
01:04 coderwill ...not that there is anything wrong w/ dropping out of any sort of educational system.
01:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00062224 = 19.165 BTC [+] {3}
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01:38 mircea_popescu danielpbarron i dunno that anyone does that yet
01:42 wilbns sorry for all that
01:43 mircea_popescu the notion that "all kinds of stuff over all kinds of platforms" is in any sense locked down's amiss.
01:43 wilbns danielpbarron: thanks for trying to help me
01:43 mircea_popescu someone could also shoot a bunch of people by the time they're 29.
01:44 phf gernika: why not relax with a new eulora build formula?
01:45 * mircea_popescu wonders how many people implemented a "textual replacement lisp interpreter" in bash/perl/php just to bother their sicp prof.
01:46 wilbns mircea_popescu: it just seemed like something was/is a bit strange about the whole ordeal
01:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38950 @ 0.00062441 = 24.3208 BTC [+] {4}
01:54 phf that seems like an artisan level troll
01:55 wilbns BingoBoingo: You mentioned the other day about "how could anyone trust Greenwald" - I think I missed something there. What did he do?
01:58 punkman http://browsers.evolt.org/
01:58 assbot | browsers.evolt.org ... ( http://bit.ly/1ISlAJS )
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02:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28640 @ 0.00062466 = 17.8903 BTC [+]
02:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.0006306 = 13.1165 BTC [+] {5}
02:24 punkman ;;ticker
02:24 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 265.99, Best ask: 266.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 266.0, 24 hour volume: 16462.09261698, 24 hour low: 261.63, 24 hour high: 267.6, 24 hour vwap: None
02:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34454 @ 0.00063192 = 21.7722 BTC [+]
02:37 BingoBoingo <wilbns> BingoBoingo: You mentioned the other day about "how could anyone trust Greenwald" - I think I missed something there. What did he do? << His body language, his carriage, when he does and doesn't express discomfort. Coincidences between Greenwald finding things out and things going to shit...
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03:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26390 @ 0.00063191 = 16.6761 BTC [-] {3}
03:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00062375 = 13.1611 BTC [-]
03:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20494 @ 0.00063245 = 12.9614 BTC [+] {4}
03:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9106 @ 0.00063342 = 5.7679 BTC [+]
03:58 shinohai ;;ticker
03:58 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 264.95, Best ask: 264.96, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 264.96, 24 hour volume: 15841.2556001, 24 hour low: 261.63, 24 hour high: 267.6, 24 hour vwap: None
04:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46647 @ 0.00061538 = 28.7056 BTC [-] {5}
04:10 shinohai !up TRS80_
04:10 shinohai $phuctor 2
04:10 TRS80_ shinohai: 2015-08-10T08:10:23+0000: Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Thomas Hofmann <toho89@gmail.com>; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9AD29DC660DB7496B01D608486E6062A27E35F35C32CFD3E2F35FC1409374187#E5D971BED516F3DAD920A90EF1FC17998F15DC52F179A95E45EA559544E77A4D> | 2015-08-10T08:10:23+0000: Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Julia Reda <reda.julia@googlemail.com>; ) (1 more message)
04:10 shinohai $more
04:10 TRS80_ shinohai: <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B412BD191BF10DAB6AAB6A8779A3F08D31AC5E3FB748DDBFB1DB18CDF05B6BEF#6269187B70BE0F1B4094A0DCA78923F50E78C97F8B3999BAB3DE5974003B393F>
04:10 shinohai ^ new ones O.o
04:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00063342 = 10.7048 BTC [+]
04:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53700 @ 0.00060795 = 32.6469 BTC [-] {5}
04:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16778 @ 0.00063342 = 10.6275 BTC [+]
04:27 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1232890 #2 down under
04:27 assbot Logged on 10-08-2015 01:34:01; mircea_popescu: is it just me or is trilema actually the 4th result for pay for your tits
04:28 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/08/zynga-continues-bleeding/
04:28 assbot Zynga Continues Bleeding | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1MXrD6R )
04:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95418 @ 0.00060257 = 57.496 BTC [-] {5}
04:35 shinohai http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/families-sa-paedophile-shannon-mccoole-sentenced-to-35-years-in-jail-for-horrific-sexual-abuse-of-children-in-care/story-fni6uo1m-1227474133348
04:35 assbot No Cookies | The Advertiser ... ( http://bit.ly/1MXshkT )
04:36 shinohai ^ Gets less time than DPR.
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04:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23542 @ 0.00063342 = 14.912 BTC [+]
05:06 cazalla shinohai, prob the tip of the iceberg, i assume a lot of paedos work in such professions
05:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00062827 = 6.0942 BTC [-]
05:08 punkman everyone gets less time than DPR
05:08 shinohai I'm just smh at the state of priorities in the "Criminal Justice System".
05:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062827 = 4.4293 BTC [-]
05:09 cazalla a lot of thieving goes on in those government homes for disabled people down under too.. the clients get welfare and from that the care takers pocket chunks of it by claiming they spent more than they did ($5 lunch becomes $15 lunch type of shit)
05:10 shinohai That was the premise for an episode of "Better Call Saul". Happens quite often here in teh US too.
05:11 punkman it's a common scam
05:12 shinohai Of course, I'm not a senior but was quite outraged at the cost of everyday items my last hospital stay.
05:13 shinohai $100 for some goddamned kleenex
05:13 punkman greece hasn't reach that level of ridiculousness yet, but all hospital supplies are way overpriced
05:15 shinohai It's cheaper for me to hire a private nurse. I get better care and don't have to be in a filthy hospital.
05:18 punkman they just came out with "food stamps" in the form of ATM cards reloaded monthly with 70-200eur
05:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44500 @ 0.00060978 = 27.1352 BTC [-] {2}
05:19 punkman and apparently they've spent about 10mil euros in 11 days through the cards
05:21 shinohai There is a whole black market (pun intended) for food stamps/drugs here.
05:21 cazalla shinohai, a stay in hospital is pretty well subsidised here if you go public and don't mind the total lack of service, or you can go private (we don't really have pre-existing condition stuff here.. if you take out private health insurance, any pre-existing condition is covered after 12 months)
05:22 BingoBoingo http://imagehaul.com/thehauls/f425941a9fa87cc472c38fe5418c0b2837cc6405.jpg
05:23 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ISDiwP )
05:23 shinohai LOLZ
05:23 punkman heh
05:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15899 @ 0.00060582 = 9.6319 BTC [-]
05:24 shinohai http://40.media.tumblr.com/5c7beee60375c2c2f0557414fd61e1cc/tumblr_myzddryn2l1ritdbzo1_500.png
05:24 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ISDw6Z )
05:27 shinohai Also, this shit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1148679.0
05:27 assbot DOWNLOAD: Bitcoin XT 0.11A is now released (bigger blocks support) ... ( http://bit.ly/1TdBolo )
05:32 punkman who's the icebreaker fellow
05:32 Naphex shinohai: roflmao :]
05:33 shinohai I dunno, but I like his style
05:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84350 @ 0.00063433 = 53.5057 BTC [+] {5}
05:41 cazalla you'd think hearn and co would at least put up a few dozen extra xt nodes to fool people into thinking the mass of /r/bitcoin posts demanding xt discussion are legit
05:44 shinohai http://xtnodes.com/ still shows only ~125
05:44 assbot XTnodes.com - Bitcoin XT Nodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1U879cH )
05:50 oglafbot http://oglaf.com/leverage/
05:50 assbot Leverage ... ( http://bit.ly/1TdIGpq )
05:53 cazalla zzz 6am start :\
05:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00063572 = 7.2154 BTC [+]
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06:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00060701 = 7.102 BTC [-]
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06:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47150 @ 0.00063722 = 30.0449 BTC [+] {5}
06:33 kakobrekla programmers
06:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104600 @ 0.0006379 = 66.7243 BTC [+] {6}
06:39 BingoBoingo Pro-Grammar
06:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30150 @ 0.00064069 = 19.3168 BTC [+] {4}
06:41 shinohai I'm Pro-Hammer
06:41 * shinohai because hammers can fix anything.
06:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72616 @ 0.00061604 = 44.7344 BTC [-]
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07:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31558 @ 0.00060978 = 19.2434 BTC [-] {4}
07:21 shinohai http://www.businessinsider.com/berkshire-hathaway-to-buy-precision-castparts-2015-8 O.o
07:21 assbot Berkshire Hathaway to buy Precision Castparts - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1ht6q7P )
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07:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00060285 = 12.1173 BTC [-] {3}
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08:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40920 @ 0.00060678 = 24.8294 BTC [+]
08:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00059632 = 17.174 BTC [-]
08:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5837 @ 0.0005963 = 3.4806 BTC [-] {2}
08:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15463 @ 0.00059384 = 9.1825 BTC [-]
08:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50400 @ 0.00059384 = 29.9295 BTC [-]
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09:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50240 @ 0.00060678 = 30.4846 BTC [+]
09:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39505 @ 0.00060678 = 23.9708 BTC [+]
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09:36 shinohai http://3dprint.com/87970/liberator-injunction-denied/
09:36 assbot Cody Wilson Denied Requested Injunction in His Ongoing 3D Printed Gun Lawsuit - 3DPrint.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1NlhzSc )
09:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14549 @ 0.00059905 = 8.7156 BTC [-] {2}
09:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46000 @ 0.00060601 = 27.8765 BTC [+] {2}
10:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00060678 = 5.8858 BTC [+]
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10:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00059384 = 9.2045 BTC [-]
10:35 funkenstein_ The full orchestra! :) Fedora-20-x64
10:35 shinohai \o/
10:36 funkenstein_ TEST2 script took some of the fun out of it, thing has the gameplay of "progress quest"
10:37 gernika phf: eulora built! Crashes though: http://exusiae.kicks-ass.net/share/crashdump.txt
10:37 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IZuBoE )
10:37 gernika ;;later tell phf eulora built! Crashes though: http://exusiae.kicks-ass.net/share/crashdump.txt
10:37 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IZuBoE )
10:37 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:42 funkenstein_ Bundesministerium für Landesverteidigung und Sport <-- doesn't seem an obvious target of diddled crypto
10:45 funkenstein_ "the State Department’s order to remove the digital files of his 3D printable handgun from his website" <-- good strategy. Fight the enemy over their demand for time machine, keep them busy and away from live targets
10:47 funkenstein_ I think they should publish on court website exactly the number which they forbid to be published just so we all know not to publish it
10:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39300 @ 0.00060595 = 23.8138 BTC [+] {5}
10:49 shinohai xD
11:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48100 @ 0.00061701 = 29.6782 BTC [+] {4}
11:18 BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/man-shot-by-police-in-ferguson-after-he-fired-at/article_baaf86fd-2de0-53a7-b840-1941159aa5c7.html http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/two-teens-walking-near-michael-brown-memorial-wounded-in-ferguson/article_5856e193-045f-5bf7-80c9-e0a96c621baf.html
11:18 assbot Man shot by police in Ferguson after he fired at officers, police say : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1MY5Yvo )
11:18 assbot Two teens walking near Michael Brown memorial wounded in Ferguson drive-by shooting : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1MY606o )
11:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58602 @ 0.00059009 = 34.5805 BTC [-] {6}
11:34 shinohai Ferguson burns down in 3...2..1
11:34 wilbns BingoBoingo: thanks for following-up... yeah, some stuff did seem a little strange w/ greenwald. also, not sure if you perceived this, but from my perspective, parts of the doc seemed a little scripted or rehearsed.
11:39 shinohai !up ascii_field
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11:54 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233251 << congrats funkenstein_ !
11:54 assbot Logged on 10-08-2015 14:35:19; funkenstein_: The full orchestra! :) Fedora-20-x64
11:59 shinohai ascii_field: mod6 and I having an unusual bug on Ubuntu 14.04 http://dpaste.com/1PCQ44J.txt
11:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZTu31 )
12:00 shinohai !up n6
12:02 n6 ascii_field: we talked about DETERMINISTIC builds the other day would that be somehting like Distcc too on gentoo where you can build something on x86 for arm?
12:03 n6 let me rephrase, that doesn't make any sense sorry.
12:04 shinohai Something like that, though I still can't make cross-compilation work. I'm not the wizard ascii_field is.
12:05 ascii_field shinohai: i don't see an error
12:05 ascii_field i see harmless -Wall barf
12:06 ascii_field n6, shinohai: search the ml for 'pogotron'. yes, buildroot builds for arm, mips, whatever
12:06 n6 ascii_field: I want to build gentoo using a x86 but for an armv7a, using something like distcc? would that make the builds DETERMINISTIC since everything you would need would be included?
12:06 ascii_field see above
12:07 n6 what does ml mean here?
12:07 ascii_field i posted a working example of this months ago
12:07 shinohai mod6 says it builds a binary but won't run. As soon as mine completes I'll confirm.
12:07 ascii_field n6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000074.html
12:07 assbot [BTC-dev] Presenting... Build your own Pogotron. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LLJdca )
12:07 shinohai I did the pogotron thing and still wound up with a x86 binary
12:07 ascii_field prolly didn't copy the config
12:07 ascii_field otherwise can't fathom how.
12:09 phf !up ascii_field
12:11 phf gernika: can you also give me a log of $(eulora_brew --prefix eulora)/euclient.app/Contents/MacOS/euclient > euclient-run.log 2>&1
12:11 phf err, $(brew --prefix eulora)/euclient.app/Contents/MacOS/euclient > euclient-run.log 2>&1
12:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00058836 = 14.4442 BTC [-] {2}
12:13 n6 ascii_field: why should I check both sigs here, and how?
12:16 ascii_field n6: please do your homework
12:16 ascii_field n6: i.e. 'why to check sigs' is a question you should be able to answer
12:20 n6 ascii_field: yea this gentoo thing has me under a lot of pressure, working on going down a more sane path today. Homework first then attack the problem, last few days tried attacking first and it hasnt worked out.
12:20 ascii_field n6: relax.
12:22 shinohai If you have to ask "why check sigs" then I can't even begin ....
12:23 n6 ascii_field: How do I check his key here? Only see yours.
12:23 ascii_field download a copy of the key
12:24 ascii_field (from sks, for example)
12:24 ascii_field can also use gpg --recv-key [keyid]
12:26 n6 thanks thats what I was looking for.
12:27 n6 ascii_field: tried to import your key to just to test and get http://dpaste.com/3VRBYWJ
12:27 assbot dpaste: 3VRBYWJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZXnVL )
12:28 ascii_field use gpg 1.4
12:28 ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/3VRBYWJ << lulzy
12:28 assbot dpaste: 3VRBYWJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZXnVL )
12:28 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:28 * mircea_popescu waves
12:29 shinohai kek
12:32 shinohai !up n6
12:32 n6 ascii_field: The only way to get that for OS X is to build from source using https://www.gnupg.org/download/ ?
12:32 assbot GnuPG - Download ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZXWyM )
12:32 ascii_field n6: or use 'ports', or 'fink'
12:32 ascii_field or get a real computer
12:32 n6 I'm working on the real computer thing, its a long road.
12:33 mircea_popescu nuts that it should be.
12:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42431 @ 0.00060953 = 25.863 BTC [+] {3}
12:34 ascii_field kina like when you had to build own airplane
12:34 ascii_field where did anyone get the idea that this is 'easy' and 'friendly' ?
12:34 n6 My wings keep falling off.
12:35 punkman n6, you could also just fix your gpg config
12:35 ascii_field obligatory:
12:35 ascii_field 'I'm positively _delighted_ that I can buy consumer products so cheaply and so conveniently, but -- get this -- I'm not in the business of making microwave ovens or wine glasses or books or speakers, but I _do_ expect those who _are_ to have professional tools, so I can buy consumer goods inexpensively with moderately high quality. I don't _want_ Joe Blows' Homemade Microwave Oven, OK?'
12:35 ascii_field ( http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3065132899827911@naggum.no.html )
12:35 assbot Re: Why lisp failed in the marketplace - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZYmW2 )
12:36 mircea_popescu ascii_field get out. by the time oil was a central commodity to civilisation for fifty years, it was trivial to get an engine deployed to spec. TO SPEC!!!11
12:36 mircea_popescu by the time electricity was a central commodity, idem.
12:36 ascii_field well yes.
12:36 ascii_field but this time was different.
12:36 mircea_popescu fucking computation has to be special because all the fucktards wanna be important in their own heads and power range around
12:36 ascii_field the tech did not grow up.
12:36 mircea_popescu it was different because libertards.\
12:36 shinohai https://i.imgur.com/pVvgyly.jpg
12:36 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZYxAH )
12:36 ascii_field mircea_popescu: if only.
12:36 mircea_popescu which btw, reminds me i came up with an excellent slogan to inhibit the cancer.
12:36 ascii_field mircea_popescu: also because the relevant tech simply did not mature
12:37 ascii_field we're still at the point of the marginal steam-engine planes of 1898
12:37 ascii_field that kind sorta lift off the ground, if no wind
12:37 mircea_popescu whenever you run across one of these "software projects" in bootstrap/qt/whatever the fuck tell them "This is not programming, this is hogramming. Be a pro, don't be a ho."
12:37 ascii_field and go up twenty metres and fall apart
12:37 mircea_popescu because srsly, pros before hos.
12:38 * mircea_popescu is half tempted to buy github, turn it off and just display that page everywhere.
12:38 ascii_field ^ mega-pr0ject
12:38 n6 ascii_field: installed ports but still don't see path to gpg infact don't even see a "port" command used https://www.macports.org/install.php "OS X 10.10 Yosemite"
12:38 assbot The MacPorts Project -- Download & Installation ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZYNQa )
12:38 ascii_field after that let's buy whitehouse and open pay toilet
12:39 mircea_popescu whitehouse you don't buy, you take.
12:39 * ascii_field head-desks
12:39 mircea_popescu but the general plan is sound. make the place into public urinal.
12:39 ascii_field su had this down to an art
12:39 ascii_field there was a glorious pay toilet across the street from where i grew up
12:39 ascii_field where a cathedral once stood
12:39 ascii_field then the twerps took over in '90s and rebuilt cathedral, aha
12:42 gernika phf: http://exusiae.kicks-ass.net/share/euclient-run.log
12:42 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DHExCY )
12:42 shinohai !up ascii_field
12:47 n6 ascii_field: I'm install it from the app store.. they don't even have a progress bar hope its installing.
12:47 n6 (xcode)
12:47 ascii_field ^ !
12:47 ascii_field for fucks sake
12:48 n6 ascii_field: anyway I can check to see if its downloading using unix tools and the command line?
12:52 mircea_popescu appstore gpg ?!
12:52 chetty oi vey
12:57 ascii_field http://qntra.net/2015/08/zynga-continues-bleeding/#comment-39432 << interesting
12:57 assbot Zynga Continues Bleeding | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1DHGuzg )
12:57 n6 mircea_popescu: appstore dev tools 2.6gb and no progress bar. going for 6.4 off the website hope the command line tools just installed for later version don't fuck me.
13:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00059783 = 21.761 BTC [-] {3}
13:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00062379 = 14.5343 BTC [+] {2}
13:16 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
13:16 phf for the record i think a secure and verifiable path for receiving a key of person in wot is to ssl connect to freenode using explicit server key, request !shasum wot from assbot, download http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/wot/wot_users.sql.gz, verify its shasum, do `zgrep -oE '\([^)]+phf[^)]+\)' wot_users.sql.gz` (or whatever nick), the second number in the grep output is going to be the key fingerprint, next grep --recv-key <fingerprint>
13:16 assbot 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tl3k1m )
13:16 ascii_field http://www.codeword.xyz/2015/08/09/exploiting-android-users-for-fun-and-profit
13:16 assbot Exploiting Android Users for Fun and Profit | The Code Word ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tl3llZ )
13:16 ascii_field 'The stuff I worked on in that job was complete horseshit. It provided absolutely zero value to anybody. It existed and was expressly optimized for the sole purpose of exploiting non-tech-savvy computer users to generate undeserved profits.'
13:18 punkman why undeserved?
13:19 phf *gpg --recv-key <fingerprint>
13:21 diametric punkman: the people paying his employer for their ad services were not getting return on those ads.
13:21 phf the first part of that process is dodgiest, since there's no way to ensure that it's assbot that's handing out shasums
13:22 punkman diametric: maybe
13:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42476 @ 0.00059619 = 25.3238 BTC [-] {3}
13:38 trinque !up n6
13:40 trinque phf: might be nice to make a deed of a big wad of public keys
13:40 trinque someone who went to the conference and signed them, for example
13:41 n6 anyone here used flink? Do I want to build all packages locally or is using binary distribution going to work ok for gpg?
13:41 punkman compiling your own gpg won't fix your problem
13:45 shinohai http://redd.it/3gdad5 <<< genial
13:45 assbot [META] On hardforking: If Bitcoin is so vulnerable to reddit posts and a man who codes in the open, that it requires censorship to stay safe, perhaps it is destined for doom after all. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tl9kHI )
13:48 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
13:49 ascii_field shinohai: gotta love the tards - thief screams 'stop, thief'
13:49 ascii_field mike hearn as a courageous fighter against nsa !
13:49 ascii_field 'stand up against crippled 1mb coin!'
13:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37918 @ 0.00062336 = 23.6366 BTC [+] {2}
13:51 shinohai pffft
13:53 shinohai "we'll make our own bitcoin, with blackjack and hookers."
13:55 trinque so, /r/bitcoin has an anti-XT mod?
13:55 trinque that at least is surprising
13:59 shinohai I am surprised that theymos is supposedly calling XT and altcoin.
14:02 trinque interesting; fine gentlemen right here made that case what, months ago?
14:05 shinohai http://blog.lifars.com/2015/08/10/microsoft-raises-bug-bounty-program-reward-to-100000/
14:05 assbot Microsoft Raises Bug Bounty Program Reward to $100,000! | LIFARS ... ( http://bit.ly/1TldNdq )
14:05 shinohai ^ Windows 10 is one big bug, pay me pl0x
14:08 trinque heh, then they turn around and sell them to the govt at a handsome profit?
14:08 trinque nice business microsoft has there
14:11 mats this is a good move on microsoft's part
14:13 trinque sure, but I have to give them shit.
14:13 Adlai wywialm: https://quedex.net/doc/margins#liquidation "all your your open positions"
14:14 assbot Quedex Bitcoin Derivatives Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1DD4fZE )
14:14 mats yes, i know, everyone in #b-a is edgy
14:14 trinque oh stahp
14:14 trinque making fun of microsoft is edgy now?
14:15 shinohai https://i.imgur.com/41G8spw.png <<< how 2 defeat Microsoft/NSA
14:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DD4pjy )
14:15 trinque but if we must have an adult conversation, Nadella at least seems like he's making changes
14:16 trinque shinohai: now that's edgy
14:16 shinohai ^^
14:18 mircea_popescu phf alternatively you can just download a possibly dirty key, use it, then once you get to know the person ask them to verify it
14:18 mircea_popescu if you find it doesn't match you got a good story for a blogpost.
14:19 mircea_popescu punkman the entire "online ad" industry is fundamentally predicated on "we can sell bot traffic to idiots"
14:20 mircea_popescu how the fuck is bitcoin vulnerable to reddit posts ?
14:20 mircea_popescu the twerps drinking their own splooge again ?
14:21 mircea_popescu ascii_field kinda old & stale by now, but hey, if it's all they got... it's all they got.
14:22 wywialm Adlai, unfortunately, yes - there is much room for improvements and we hope to add more forgiving liquidation scheme before or soon after real launch
14:23 wywialm i thought that it is better to publish the exchange as soon as bossible to collect feedback such as yours
14:23 mircea_popescu incidentally, no, that is the correct approach.
14:23 mircea_popescu if you get liquidated, you get liquidated for everything you own
14:23 mircea_popescu and, ideally, you're not allowed back in, either.
14:23 mircea_popescu so don't get liquidated.
14:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3006 @ 0.00062128 = 1.8676 BTC [-]
14:24 mircea_popescu it is not the exchange's job to manage people's capital allocation.
14:24 mircea_popescu it IS the exchange's job to punish the incompetent wannabes.
14:24 wywialm mircea_popescu, well, that *is* insightful - i would be very glad if speculators acknowledged this
14:25 mircea_popescu they'll acknowledge it just as soon as they don't have an option.
14:26 wywialm you definitely made me think twice on this issue
14:26 * danielpbarron got liquidated on bitcoinica
14:26 mircea_popescu as a matter of principle - modern finance is mostly a bunch of entitled imbeciles trying for the lowest-effort approach. ideally, if they could just open a sack and money fell in kthx.
14:26 mircea_popescu ther problem with this is that the actual work keeps being pushed on things that can't actually do it.
14:27 mircea_popescu it's unsanitary - to make money you gotta do something useful.
14:27 mircea_popescu if you don't really want to do anything, go webcam.
14:27 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:27 ascii_field to make money you gotta do something useful. << orly
14:27 mircea_popescu yes.
14:28 ascii_field on mircea_popescu's planet, perhaps
14:28 ascii_field on mine, big money is made, 999 times of 1000, by theft or scam.
14:28 trinque if you gain dollars, but lose purchasing power, are you making money?
14:28 mircea_popescu looky here : copybook headings aren't gonna change through human effort. be it positive "har har, we're so good" or negative "har har, i'm a cynicist so this works now".
14:28 mircea_popescu it just doesn't work that way.
14:28 Adlai wywialm: i'm not complaining about the scheme, but rather the copyediting :)
14:28 mircea_popescu ascii_field you're roughly doing the equivalent to the "black supremacy" captioning you know.
14:29 ascii_field mircea_popescu: nobody cancelled thermodynamics, sure.
14:29 wywialm mircea_popescu, yes, you are right - Quedex has issues that are more urgent than making mismanagement of risk pleasant
14:29 mircea_popescu nobody cancelled thermodynamics and the worst thing you can do with your head is chase local maxima.
14:29 mircea_popescu yeah, im sure in some soap bubble somehwere picket fences works!!1
14:29 ascii_field except that this is why living things even ~have~ heads
14:29 mircea_popescu who cares ? srsly. who ?
14:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40300 @ 0.00061195 = 24.6616 BTC [-]
14:30 ascii_field to chase maxima.
14:30 mircea_popescu yes. so ?
14:30 mircea_popescu difference between humans and lions is that humans chase global maxima
14:30 wywialm Adlai, oh, i didn't even notice - thanks for that!
14:30 ascii_field picket fence ?
14:30 mircea_popescu lions just get shot.
14:30 mircea_popescu ascii_field the usian ideal thing.
14:30 mircea_popescu which is not either ideal or even desirable.
14:30 ascii_field hm
14:30 ascii_field ideal as in it keeps the indians out ?
14:30 mircea_popescu ;;google picket fences
14:30 ascii_field or am i confusing fences
14:30 gribble Picket Fences (TV Series 1992–1996) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103512/>; Picket Fences - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picket_Fences>; Picket Fences - TV.com: <http://www.tv.com/shows/picket-fences/>
14:31 ascii_field 'The series follows the lives of the residents of the small town of Rome, Wisconsin, where weird things happen, including cows' udders exploding and a spate of people turning up dead in freezers. Struggling to maintain order in the community is Sheriff Jimmy Brock...'
14:31 ascii_field l0l
14:31 mircea_popescu check it out they made a show
14:31 mircea_popescu before fucking tv executives tried to turn it into money, the expression denoted the sort of crammed, unsanitary, sexually repressed housing usians lived in post ww2 and brtught up the boomers.
14:32 mircea_popescu "suburbia", the 1960s variant.
14:32 ascii_field ah - levittowns.
14:32 mircea_popescu right
14:32 mircea_popescu where "the graudate" happened.
14:32 mircea_popescu ten thousand billion times.
14:32 ascii_field them!
14:32 ascii_field cult period in usa
14:33 ascii_field like the early '80s in su, with caviar and japanese tape decks
14:33 ascii_field mega-nostalgiatron
14:33 mircea_popescu utter trash, too.
14:34 ascii_field to folks growing up in shit, 'trash' is an upgrade
14:34 mircea_popescu quite exactly.
14:35 mircea_popescu "you can take the girl out of the trash, but you can't take the trash out of the girl principally because she perceives all the alternatives are shit"
14:35 trinque now you've got: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/1168/9749/8m/media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/mcmansion-subdivision.jpg
14:35 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PgYhPh )
14:36 shinohai McMansions
14:36 trinque I used to imagine a robot came and pressed these out of the ground one by one
14:36 wywialm i was asked if i can give voice here - is it still true that only people in assbot L1 WoT may give voice?
14:36 ascii_field trinque: they are made largely of, approximately, papier mache.
14:37 trinque yup
14:37 trinque I grew up in the Biggest and Best "master planned community" in TX
14:37 Adlai wywialm: anybody in L2 can !up somenewbie, which gives them temporary voice; anybody in L1 can !rate somenewbie, putting them in L2 and enabling them to self-voice
14:37 trinque !up n6
14:38 n6 ascii_field: I installed 1.4 gpg but am still getting the same error as before http://dpaste.com/3VRBYWJ
14:38 assbot dpaste: 3VRBYWJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZXnVL )
14:38 wywialm Adlai, thanks again
14:38 mircea_popescu "So my new little desktop app, which was quickly distributed to millions of unsuspecting checkbox-ignoring users, would “borrow” their existing Google session by reading their browser cookies, then invisibly “click” that App Store install button for them on apps that were paying us for distribution."
14:38 mircea_popescu heh.
14:38 n6 googling around it seems like I might need a cert but don't really understand what its asking for.
14:38 ascii_field what is this nonsense with sks using ssl anyway
14:38 ascii_field i mean, wtf
14:39 trinque gotta link everything to openssl
14:39 ascii_field mircea_popescu: do we have a civilized keyserv yet
14:39 ascii_field or do i have to
14:39 mircea_popescu not afaik.
14:39 ascii_field because this is fucking retarded
14:39 mircea_popescu not a priority either.
14:39 mircea_popescu eh just relax.
14:39 * mircea_popescu bbl
14:42 n6 ascii_field: Not sure I understand would turning off ssl fix this?
14:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 1000 @ 0.00208192 = 2.0819 BTC
14:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45650 @ 0.0006191 = 28.2619 BTC [+] {5}
14:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32950 @ 0.0006114 = 20.1456 BTC [-] {3}
14:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 5000 @ 0.00208192 = 10.4096 BTC
15:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 2450 @ 0.00208192 = 5.1007 BTC
15:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5306 @ 0.00060438 = 3.2068 BTC [-]
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15:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34739 @ 0.00061971 = 21.5281 BTC [+] {3}
15:26 wywialm bye
15:40 TheNewDeal ;;bc,stats
15:40 gribble Current Blocks: 369298 | Current Difficulty: 5.269984240934701E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 370943 | Next Difficulty In: 1645 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 8 hours, 19 minutes, and 5 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47150109359.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -10.53083
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15:55 trinque !up thestringpuller
15:56 trinque thestringpuller: good afternoon
16:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48260 @ 0.00061681 = 29.7673 BTC [-]
16:21 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:22 ascii_field http://media.indiatimes.in/media/content/2015/Jan/capture_1421756730.jpg << vintage lulz. run moar winblowz ce !
16:22 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1gtZPsU )
16:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56812 @ 0.00058826 = 33.4202 BTC [-] {3}
16:31 trinque Think OPSEC!
16:31 trinque lol
16:32 shinohai https://np.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3gg5v8/i_switched_to_bitcoinxt_to_protest_today_incident/
16:32 assbot I switched to bitcoinxt to protest today incident : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1J719iv )
16:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35900 @ 0.00062164 = 22.3169 BTC [+] {4}
16:34 trinque which reminds me
16:34 trinque those bastards at Just5 did not reply
16:34 shinohai Read: It's ok if we censor debate *contrary* to XT
16:35 trinque I suppose I am a filthy american who does not deserve fine Slovenian engineering, and Moscow design
16:35 shinohai But don't do it to us, we'll melt down like tumblrinas
16:35 ascii_field wai wut
16:35 ascii_field !s just5
16:35 assbot 2 results for 'just5' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=just5
16:35 trinque ascii_field: pretty looking dumbphone I was considering
16:35 ascii_field what's wrong with the chinese 'credit card phones' ?
16:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50800 @ 0.00062605 = 31.8033 BTC [+] {8}
16:36 trinque http://www.just5.com/worldwide/en/brick/brick-red
16:36 assbot Brick Red ... ( http://bit.ly/1J71wtB )
16:36 trinque nothing in particular; I am still in the market for a suitable dumbphone
16:36 ascii_field huge piece of shit
16:36 ascii_field what'd the point ?
16:36 trinque they all are
16:36 ascii_field no
16:37 ascii_field e.g., http://wholesale.buysku.com/Electronics-image/2013-12/Mooc-M33-One-SIM-Quad-band-Ultra-thin-Mini-Credit-Card-sized-GSM-Cell-Phone-with-Bluetooth-MP3-FM-TF-Slot-White-6352177396313517551.JPG
16:37 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1J71EJp )
16:37 trinque oh, neat
16:37 ascii_field a dozen makers of this. about $20, give or take, in usa
16:38 trinque extent of the thing's responsibilites are "yes I am still alive" and "yes I will go check out that server"
16:38 trinque considered a beeper even
16:38 ascii_field the slovenian thing is a 'hemingwriter'
16:38 kakobrekla fine Slovenian engineering < last phone of this sorts was 'eta 80' afaik
16:38 ascii_field kinda like a medieval reenactment party ~complete with black death~
16:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20640 @ 0.00060793 = 12.5477 BTC [-]
16:39 ascii_field there is no reason for '90s bricks.
16:39 trinque I was joking about fine slovenian engineering
16:39 * kakobrekla wasnt!
16:39 trinque thing looks like lunchbox plastic
16:40 punkman they are just rebranded chinese phones
16:40 punkman you can get them from the source
16:40 trinque that credit card phone is appealing
16:40 punkman the brick doesn't look too bad though, I don't think it's big
16:40 punkman credit card phone comes with small battery
16:41 ascii_field enough for a few days
16:41 ascii_field srsly how big do you need it
16:42 punkman oh ok http://img.artlebedev.com/everything/just5/just5-in-hand.jpg
16:42 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1gu2frC )
16:42 punkman that is definitely bigger than I thought
16:42 ascii_field astonishing turd.
16:42 punkman the other just5 models are regular size I think
16:43 ascii_field not like they don't all use approximately same chipset
16:43 kakobrekla you can still get nokias that dont run android
16:44 kakobrekla new ones
16:44 ascii_field fuck proprietary chargers.
16:44 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u03DfcjGnQg this looks fine
16:44 assbot Mobiset.ru: Just5 CP09 review - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1gu2tiA )
16:45 kakobrekla lol chargers
16:46 kakobrekla phone costs 20bux, standby time 30 days
16:46 kakobrekla buy new one each time, no need to charge.
16:46 ascii_field 30 days unless you ~use~ it...
16:46 ascii_field (horrors)
16:46 * kakobrekla doesnt use it.
16:47 ascii_field carries it as blunt weapon ?
16:48 kakobrekla yeah, like hammer.
16:49 ascii_field then - perfect.
16:49 trinque removable battery is important
16:49 trinque buttons that aren't impossible would be nice
16:49 trinque other than that, don't care, and would rather not be obligated to carry one
16:49 kakobrekla buttons?
16:50 trinque yeah I don't need no stinking touch screen
16:50 kakobrekla you just need one.
16:51 trinque !up n6
16:51 trinque n6: what's up?
16:52 TheNewDeal slightly off topic. anyone have favorite chess problem set?
16:52 trinque !up ascii_field
16:53 n6 still working on http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000074.html but not sure about my next step.. seems like my os is holding me back, still trying to build my spaceship but it starts with having sane tools maybe debian on the laptop then i can build this on the begalbone and then build the gentoo on the desktop?
16:53 assbot [BTC-dev] Presenting... Build your own Pogotron. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LLJdca )
16:54 trinque n6: sounds like you are taking on too much at once.
16:54 n6 I'm not sure if debian is going to be any better then this.
16:54 trinque you need to focus on a single linux environment and get a foothold there
16:54 kakobrekla step 1: get your wototron in order (or not)
16:55 n6 kakobrekla: I don't know what you mean.
16:55 shinohai Which I why I suggested earlier he get a sane linux to get started.
16:55 trinque !h
16:55 assbot http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
16:55 trinque n6: ^
16:55 kakobrekla n6 your keys are all fucked is what i mean
16:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00061481 = 19.4895 BTC [+] {3}
16:56 trinque rather, http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
16:56 assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1J73Z7o )
16:56 n6 kakobrekla: yea I lost my old key, and am trying to find my way back the right way.
16:56 kakobrekla fuckin assbot and his unhelpful help
16:56 trinque lol
16:57 trinque !gettrust n6
16:57 assbot Trust relationship from user trinque to user n6: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=trinque&to=n6 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/n6/
16:57 kakobrekla n6 that would prolly be a good step 1
16:58 trinque gonna have to be n7 now
16:58 kakobrekla lol
16:58 n6 I hope not.
16:58 shinohai kek
16:58 kakobrekla you dont have your key anymore ?
16:58 n6 nope.
16:58 kakobrekla what else then
16:58 TheNewDeal losr car key as well
16:59 n6 I had something in mind, but not sure anymore.
16:59 TheNewDeal completely key less
16:59 kakobrekla call nsa for backupz?
16:59 n6 I need to my sane sitaution in order before I can join the wot
16:59 shinohai http://thenextweb.com/2015/08/10/google-is-reorganizing-under-a-new-umbrella-company-called-alphabet/
16:59 assbot Google is reorganizing under a new umbrella company called Alphabet ... ( http://bit.ly/1gu4pYn )
16:59 shinohai ^ alphabet with a few letters: nsa, fbi, etc
17:00 trinque !b 2
17:00 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/11NGPES.txt )
17:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82879 @ 0.00062749 = 52.0057 BTC [+] {4}
17:05 ascii_field snore.
17:05 ascii_field they can rename to 'fuckyou inc.' and what difference will it make to anyone ?
17:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117800 @ 0.00058956 = 69.4502 BTC [-] {9}
17:12 n6 I still need support with Pogotron would you mind helping me some more ascii_field not sure what i'm doing and everytime the help dries up my progress stops.
17:12 trinque n6: what's called for there is you going and doing research at the points where you get stuck
17:12 trinque and that may take some time
17:13 trinque even if you end up with a working pogo, if you don't understand the steps which resulted in that, you've gained very little
17:14 n6 I don't see buildroot-asciilifeform-pogov4.patch in the list of files.
17:15 n6 nvm.
17:16 wilbns http://thenextweb.com/2015/08/10/google-is-reorganizing-under-a-new-umbrella-company-called-alphabet/
17:16 assbot Google is reorganizing under a new umbrella company called Alphabet ... ( http://bit.ly/1gu4pYn )
17:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00059582 = 5.0049 BTC [+]
17:16 trinque wilbns: yes, that was linked not 20min ago
17:16 wilbns ahhh i see it
17:17 wilbns sorry about that
17:17 wilbns shinohai: nice catch
17:17 shinohai >.>
17:18 BingoBoingo https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=143922226922228&w=2
17:18 assbot 'Re: Repartitioning' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1J76uXe )
17:18 wilbns i dunno how i missed that in front of my eyes
17:18 TheNewDeal wilbns https://imgflip.com/i/9iu9z
17:18 assbot Image tagged in lawgs - Imgflip ... ( http://bit.ly/1J76CWy )
17:20 wilbns probably getting alzheimers, it's on both the paternal and maternal side of my fam #great
17:21 shinohai The lawgs and qntra have replaced my newspaper with morning coffee.
17:21 n6 i'm getting "patch -pl < buildroot-asciilifeform-pogov4_0567b86c55934a8b5d1351b4ccba9306ee3406c3.patch" when running patch -p1 < buildroot-asciilifeform-pogov4.patch
17:21 n6 "patch: **** strip count l is not a number" *
17:22 shinohai (/_-)
17:22 trinque because it's a fucking L, dude
17:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00059582 = 2.6812 BTC [+]
17:22 trinque !up n6
17:23 trinque go, build ye a gentoo, and read 6mos of logs
17:23 trinque only possible route forward
17:23 punkman it's in the logs http://i.imgur.com/WUPNca3.jpg
17:23 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1gu7Iib )
17:24 trinque damn, now that's a database
17:24 shinohai The logs are searchable yet!
17:24 punkman barely
17:24 shinohai Now the ethereum project will steal that pic punkman and use it on their "cloud-mining" webpage.
17:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.0005862 = 7.8258 BTC [-] {2}
17:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31650 @ 0.00058914 = 18.6463 BTC [+] {3}
17:38 BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/arrested-in-ferguson-protests-downtown-state-of-emergency-declared-in/article_7564c9cb-cc89-58cb-8787-4aaa91bcccaa.html
17:38 assbot 57 arrested in Ferguson protests downtown; state of emergency declared in county : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1J78Xkk )
17:39 trinque yep, one shot too, at least so far
17:40 BingoBoingo USG agitators slacking on their Purge incitement
17:46 BingoBoingo Though the 911 salon got looted again last night
17:50 BingoBoingo When I went to get cigarettes earlier the Proprietor was being interviewed on KMOX. Sounded very close to going full Uncle Ruckus.
17:57 TheNewDeal !down TheNewDeal
17:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48808 @ 0.00058597 = 28.6 BTC [-] {4}
18:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00062389 = 8.5473 BTC [+]
18:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58350 @ 0.00059787 = 34.8857 BTC [-] {4}
18:18 shinohai !up n6
18:19 shinohai Further !ups will cost you 0.005 per until you get in wot like everyone else.
18:20 n6 Ok im going to install gentoo and get into the wot
18:21 shinohai >.>
18:22 shinohai I should charge you for an hour + of my time you wasted this evening at my going rate of 0.15 per
18:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 1000 @ 0.00208192 = 2.0819 BTC
18:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00058516 = 10.094 BTC [-] {3}
18:25 mircea_popescu waitwut
18:25 n6 sorry for all the wasted time, still trying to make sense of all this.
18:26 trinque n6: just gotta pick *one* thing and make sense of *that8
18:26 trinque and accept that it may take some time.
18:26 shinohai Pretty simple. Read logs. Don't ask people to help you do one thing, and do another. I have neither the time nor crayons for people like that.
18:27 mircea_popescu aww, he ran alf out ? i was kinda enjoying the spectacle.
18:27 jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1232854 ... got quite a kick from this
18:27 assbot Logged on 10-08-2015 00:01:39; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-08-2015#1232838 << and when i tell mircea_popescu 'they own the backbone', he laughs
18:30 n6 trinque: my issue is i need an ethernet bridge to install gentoo and don't know how to do that.
18:30 n6 so maybe debian is my first step
18:30 trinque maybe so
18:30 trinque I dunno what you mean by bridge
18:30 trinque I know what I'd mean, but
18:30 trinque router?
18:31 trinque they're cheap; get one, stick it between your modem and computers
18:31 n6 yes.
18:31 trinque then in 6-12mos we can talk about replacing the thing with OpenBSD
18:32 trinque if you keep asking along the way, you're going to get opinions from people which you're not prepared to implement
18:32 trinque do something dumb, iterate on it
18:32 trinque doing something the right way while having no idea how or why you're doing it, you gain nothing
18:33 mircea_popescu <ascii_field> there is no reason for '90s bricks. << motorola made them with good enough antenna assemblages you could bash a head in. also the hi q plastics in the casing allowed one to drive mercedes over phone and then use it.
18:33 * shinohai has a startac in the closet somewhere ....
18:34 mircea_popescu if only ubuntu weren't fucktarded we could recommend it to noobs.
18:35 shinohai I recommended Debian because he obviously isn't quite experienced enough for Gentoo yet.
18:36 shinohai I'm not sure if Barbie linux would run for him or not.
18:36 trinque sorry fucking state really.
18:36 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/WUPNca3.jpg << if one can find any porn more perverse than this...
18:36 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1gu7Iib )
18:37 mircea_popescu seriously, that's what the Puritan Fathers would do with young women.
18:37 mircea_popescu max hardcore seems infinitely better a choice.
18:38 punkman more pics http://www.vintag.es/2015/08/pictures-of-fbis-colossal-fingerprint.html
18:38 assbot vintage everyday: Pictures of FBI’s Colossal Fingerprint Filing System During World War II ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nmfp4P )
18:39 trinque I find the building beautiful, if the purpose vulgar
18:40 punkman heh http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nqd7Ycp3Ax0/VcDdlyA5xsI/AAAAAAABtBA/4YioUWoGNZk/s1600/Indignant%2Bwoman%252C%2BParis%252C%2B1948.jpg
18:40 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmfLIA )
18:41 trinque reminds me of a thread on the relationship between computers and bureaucracy
18:41 * trinque looks for it
18:42 mircea_popescu ftr she's not indignant, she's in shock.
18:43 shinohai To fight all that puritanism: https://giant.gfycat.com/FragrantColdHairstreak.webm
18:43 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1J7h7t9 )
18:46 punkman http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8XRT2ZpBny0/VYp33C5eBPI/AAAAAAABnOM/LRqyBTcaqHA/s1600/9.%2BShaving%2BThe%2BHair%2BOf%2BFrench%2BWomen.jpg
18:46 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1J7hBzk )
18:46 punkman "After France was liberated toward the end of World War II, French citizens who had supported the invading German troops in any form were tracked down and had their heads forcefully shaved as a badge of dishonor. As many as 20,000 French citizens had their heads shaved in public, the majority of which were women."
18:47 shinohai https://twitter.com/NelsonJeppesen/status/630872710244102145
18:48 mircea_popescu "women that had sex with german officers and enjoyed chocolate and stuff in preference of their poor and worthless countrymen were then brutalized by the later"
18:52 BingoBoingo ;;later tell n6 Step 1: Just run OpenBSD for now Step 2: transcribe and build "Lions' Commentary on UNIX 6th Edition, with Source Code" Step 3: Six monthe of logs should be up, then you may Gentoo
18:52 gribble The operation succeeded.
18:53 shinohai Looks like you got your smokes just in time BingoBoingo
18:53 BingoBoingo shinohai: Oh, what happened nao?
18:54 shinohai Shutting down I-70
18:55 BingoBoingo shinohai: Nah, The Blanchette is between St Louis and Bumfuck Missouri. I-70 Bridge between me and StL is the "Stan Span"
18:55 shinohai Good, you're safe.
18:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19173 @ 0.00058505 = 11.2172 BTC [-]
18:56 shinohai Until the fires start.
18:57 BingoBoingo shinohai: Nah, I am in a very white part of Illinois.
18:58 shinohai I live in a darker area than I'd like, but all-in-all it isn't bad.
19:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32598 @ 0.00059289 = 19.327 BTC [+]
19:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153350 @ 0.00058423 = 89.5917 BTC [-] {6}
19:02 BingoBoingo Living in a shittier area would be more fun, but It's nice knowing that the whopping 20 blacks in town don't make this a target for DOJ purge agitation
19:04 mircea_popescu ". In spite of Zynga's hemorrhaging wallet and shrinking userbase shares still manage to trade on Nasdaq (archived) at $2.64 per share implying a market cap of $2,072,302,357 on a earnings per share of negative 19 cents."
19:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24850 @ 0.00058222 = 14.4682 BTC [-]
19:04 mircea_popescu dude...
19:04 mircea_popescu fucking nuts.
19:04 shinohai I have more Hispanics around me than anything. I see ICE agents on a regular basis.
19:06 BingoBoingo Every few years ICE will bust one of the local mexican restaurants or small businesses here.
19:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 300000 @ 0.0000299 = 8.97 BTC [-] {6}
19:06 mircea_popescu is ice the anti-hispanic agency ?
19:07 shinohai yup, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement
19:07 shinohai https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2015/08/07/facebook-tax-refund-scam-earns-arizona-woman-6-years-in-jail/
19:07 assbot Facebook tax refund scam earns Arizona woman 6 years in jail | Naked Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmiOjX )
19:09 thestringpuller anyone wanna trade btc for dr. dre's new album?
19:09 mircea_popescu check it out, women in tech
19:10 mircea_popescu hey dbit you there ?
19:12 mircea_popescu "Even if you don't have any money of your own to scam, your data may well be of use to someone, and having your identity abused can mean trouble for you further down the line. So don't make it easy for the crooks - try to stick to sensible and cautious settings on your social media accounts, as far as the providers allow, and avoid sharing anything you wouldn't want the whole world to know."
19:13 mircea_popescu how exactly does this follow ? it really is the govt's problem throughout, why should the cattle care one whit ?
19:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 500 @ 0.00208192 = 1.041 BTC
19:17 wilbns BingoBoingo: my first job was at a car wash in Arkansas, ICE came at least one time I know of, possibly 2 and took some of the Mexicans I was working with away.
19:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00060422 = 7.1902 BTC [+] {2}
19:20 shinohai It does tons of good. The same people that get deported are back in < 6 months.
19:23 trinque Trump's gonna build the great wall o' Texas; you'll see
19:23 trinque with laser drones
19:23 trinque I have to say watching the guy give speeches is entertaining the shit out of me
19:24 mircea_popescu the part where 'mainstream' media superiorly dismissed some recent speech while popularity shot up was amusing enough.
19:24 wilbns i think the whole subject of illegal immigration and subsequent media coverage is just a big misdirection play to stop people from banding together and asking real questions.
19:24 trinque mircea_popescu: he's clearly doing well
19:25 mircea_popescu what's the woman's name again, i forget. sounds just like a porn star.
19:25 trinque megyn kelly?
19:25 trinque that was the one he implied was on her period
19:25 mircea_popescu ah yea
19:25 trinque he's somehow getting around the political correctness, and people seem to love it
19:26 * punkman hopes "megyn" isn't a name
19:26 shinohai Megynecologist
19:26 mircea_popescu "somehow" = outright and pointedly ignoring it.
19:27 mircea_popescu then derps go "o hello here is where you apologize" and the answer comes "no, this is where i'd fuck your mother, if her cunt didn't stink"
19:27 shinohai She had no qualms about discussing penesis and such with Howard Stern, however.
19:28 trinque haha
19:30 mircea_popescu well, she believes penises are intrinsically superior to vulvas. she may or may not be right, but she's definitely sexist.
19:30 mircea_popescu !up muruc
19:31 mats lol
19:31 mats hearing about the potus run secondhand makes me glad I don't waste cycles thinking about it
19:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6743 @ 0.00059925 = 4.0407 BTC [-]
19:32 mircea_popescu it's third hand technically. i heard it secondhand myself.
19:33 mats irc is a string and tin cans
19:33 wilbns as long as the masses are rallying to the side of democrats or republicans as their party of choice each election the people who are really in control will keep on having one - and the masses will be left to pick up the tab.
19:33 trinque I don't care much about the presidency, but listening to Trump talk about how weak we look around the world, and having no qualms about being an asshole towards the rest of the machine, that's entertainment.
19:33 shinohai http://blog.coinspect.co/copay-wallet-emptying-vulnerability
19:33 assbot Copay wallet emptying vulnerability | blog.coinspect ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmmFhd )
19:34 mircea_popescu wilbns well obviously ? what's next, the lightbulbs are gonna power the generator ?
19:34 mircea_popescu the masses are the masses. ipso definition they pick the tab and someone else writes the bill.
19:34 mircea_popescu bwahaha shinohai
19:34 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo qntra ?
19:34 shinohai Run moar online wallets
19:35 mircea_popescu "Copay is an easy-to-use multi-signature bitcoin wallet developed by BitPay to significantly decrease the risk of Bitcoin theft."
19:35 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Maybe? giving it a look real quick
19:35 wilbns mircea_popescu: yes, yet this message is never heard nor processed. it is airgapped.
19:35 trinque wilbns: you're assuming "they" need to hear the "message"
19:36 trinque where in fact it's your perspective on their importance that needs to change
19:36 mircea_popescu wilbns i agree with trinque
19:36 mircea_popescu there's really no space, no need and no benefit from "the people" getting involved in managing other people's affairs.
19:36 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: someone stole another one of your ideas: http://signmytits.com/en/preview/1089
19:36 mircea_popescu it'd be splendid if they took a more active role managing theirs.
19:37 mircea_popescu thestringpuller writing on tits can not possibly have been my idea.
19:37 mircea_popescu i've seen it done in egiptian tombs.
19:37 wilbns sorry, not sure i get what part of the perspective needs to change?
19:38 thestringpuller but no writing on boobs for...bitcoin?
19:38 wilbns the masses or tptb?
19:39 trinque wilbns: yours.
19:39 wilbns "their importance" - not sure who they is
19:39 trinque and I'm speaking as someone that went to more than one Ron Paul thing in the 08 election
19:40 trinque there is no great awakening coming; what would that even look like?
19:41 mircea_popescu thestringpuller lmao what a fucking scam srsly... so he has some pictures, pngs text on it, wants to be paid serious dough for this and runs disqus to boot.
19:41 mircea_popescu why does bitcoin attract the cream of the crop of imbecility ?
19:42 shinohai Because without hundreds of features, how you gonna moon?
19:42 wilbns trinque: i liked paul too. perhaps great change will come through cryptography and decentralization
19:43 trinque people are "free" enough today that they could change anything they like
19:43 trinque they don't. why?
19:43 trinque you can go out into the street right now and start a riot, and the cops wont even kill that many people
19:44 mircea_popescu for as long as it's growing they're not killing anyone.
19:44 mircea_popescu that starts after it's gone no where for a year
19:44 mircea_popescu as fergusson illustrates.
19:44 mircea_popescu aka "peaceful protest is dumb - go for numerous protest instead"
19:45 trinque yeah, there could be a tipping point where national guard operations happen
19:45 shinohai The blacklisting begins: https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/commit/73c9efe74c5cc8faea9c2b2c785a2f5b68aa4c23
19:45 assbot Introduce the beginnings of anti-DoS resource scheduling. · bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt@73c9efe · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nmohr0 )
19:46 mircea_popescu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire_racism << pretty great read. wikipedia has (yet another) article on the insanity of sanity.
19:46 assbot Laissez-faire racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmogmV )
19:46 mircea_popescu apparently the best way to not be racist is by being racist in the currently fashionable manner, and so forth.
19:46 mircea_popescu not giving a shit about the stupid preoccupations of the stupid is the worst crime.
19:47 mircea_popescu and in NO CASE can people be responsible for their own lot, because hey, what scope does that live for politicianing!
19:48 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: are the bitcoin "business" ideas really that much more stupid than those in bezzle-land?
19:48 mircea_popescu i have nfi.
19:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00060422 = 3.2326 BTC [+] {2}
19:51 trinque reminds me a little of that Deepak Chopra guy talking about quantum consciousness
19:51 trinque bitcoin is weird, so you can project whatever nonsensical bullshit you want onto it
19:51 mircea_popescu something like that.
19:52 mircea_popescu "holistic" essentially denotes the inclination of economically driven, socially & intellectually marginal parasites to freely mix and match.
19:53 mircea_popescu they're the equivalent of bacteria, and thus the behaviour is unsurprising - bacteria also survive principally because they're not too careful when exchanging dna bits.
19:53 mircea_popescu consequently, "everything's one" and last year we were lolling at idiots doing "quantum miners".
19:53 mircea_popescu because hey.
19:53 mircea_popescu homeopathic string theory. why the fuck not ? the aloe vera wallet.
19:53 mircea_popescu pot coin.
19:53 mircea_popescu you name it.
19:53 trinque hahaha
19:54 * trinque hooks his quantum miner to his mr fusion
19:54 mircea_popescu they're not even very good at it, incidentally. the space could be trivially ennumerated and then mechanically exploited.
19:54 mircea_popescu "astrological brainwallets"
19:54 punkman that's a pretty good one :D
19:55 mircea_popescu "add this magnetic strip to your miner and save 3-50% electricity by the refocusing of positron rings"
19:57 mircea_popescu mostly a disease of "visual thinkers", as illustrated by the poor job they do at covering the actual space.
20:00 mircea_popescu i suppose the proper nomenclature would be "creative people [that never learned any math]", tho the tail's usually omitted.
20:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00060423 = 7.9154 BTC [+]
20:06 shinohai https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMFhnqXWgAQ53OJ.jpg
20:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmqdQw )
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20:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MG] 242200 @ 0.0001 = 24.22 BTC [+] {2}
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20:53 mircea_popescu soo, f16 in turkey now huh.
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21:11 mircea_popescu https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-181800-p-2.html << this shit's just as lulzy as 2 years ago.
21:11 assbot Bitcoin Giveaway [Archive] - Page 2 - Stripper Web Exotic Dancer Community ... ( http://bit.ly/1IAxKdh )
21:13 mircea_popescu "we don't believe in bears because we work on commission for our lively. hood."
21:15 mats meanwhile, to my knowledge, assad still hasn't given approval for strikes against ISIS inside syria
21:15 mircea_popescu they're mostly doing iraq border
21:18 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233737 << all these grunt labour slots - now freed up so folks can derp on reddit, aha
21:18 assbot Logged on 10-08-2015 22:38:29; punkman: more pics http://www.vintag.es/2015/08/pictures-of-fbis-colossal-fingerprint.html
21:18 asciilifeform (also shows how usg police state was already firmly in place in that period, for anyone who had doubts)
21:19 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233745 << error: cock visible
21:19 assbot Logged on 10-08-2015 22:43:46; shinohai: To fight all that puritanism: https://giant.gfycat.com/FragrantColdHairstreak.webm
21:19 asciilifeform srsly, am i the only straight bloke here or what
21:19 mircea_popescu !up Varia_Varietatis
21:20 Varia_Varietatis hey mircea_popescu working on my gpg now
21:20 mircea_popescu aha ? who're you ?
21:20 Varia_Varietatis Varia_Varietatis who else?
21:20 mircea_popescu mkay
21:20 Naphex xotika.tv referral program is up and available for those interested. 2.5% of the tippings received or sent by users you invite. Everything is tracked real time and available from withdraw from the platform.
21:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform your idea of straightness is "have never observed a penis" ?
21:20 asciilifeform mno
21:20 Naphex clients get tracked and the rewards are sticky
21:21 mircea_popescu interdasting Naphex
21:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform then!
21:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: but it means to me that the naked and juicing bits in pr0n ought to belong to females
21:21 asciilifeform but then again that could be just me.
21:22 mats lol
21:22 mircea_popescu (i didn't see the thing in question, for some reason .webm comes out as a string of bits)
21:23 asciilifeform it was an animated gif thing with a cycling cock center stage
21:23 mircea_popescu all this institutionalized misandry.
21:23 asciilifeform l0l
21:24 mircea_popescu female privilege is never having had your bits rejected for center stageness.
21:24 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233785 << the usg-connected folks who specialize in bringing'em back in gotta eat !
21:24 assbot Logged on 10-08-2015 23:20:17; shinohai: It does tons of good. The same people that get deported are back in < 6 months.
21:26 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233849 << that was hearn's thing for years now, srsly
21:26 assbot Logged on 10-08-2015 23:45:55; shinohai: The blacklisting begins: https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/commit/73c9efe74c5cc8faea9c2b2c785a2f5b68aa4c23
21:26 mircea_popescu anyway. it's unclear to me pron can be judged through formal means.
21:26 asciilifeform what is this 'begins.'
21:27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: subjective, rather than formal; but how many seconds does it take ~you~ to realize that you won't be hardening to a particular pr0n
21:27 mircea_popescu but yeah, the entire xt nonsense exists chiefly as a venue for various nobodies to exercise negative powers they don't actually have.
21:28 mircea_popescu i won't bother looking at just how much this connotes their hunger for my cock, out of respect of asciilifeform's heterosexuality.
21:28 asciilifeform l0l
21:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i don't think i ever got a pron erection.
21:28 asciilifeform perhaps they wish to 'chortle on the balls' (tm) (r) ('silicon valley')
21:29 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233874 << this is inevitable.
21:29 assbot Logged on 10-08-2015 23:55:16; mircea_popescu: "add this magnetic strip to your miner and save 3-50% electricity by the refocusing of positron rings"
21:29 mircea_popescu i suspek pron erections work like erections work generally, which is to say, as a learned behaviour. people get erections like dogs salivate, more or less.
21:29 asciilifeform just like the 'deoxygenated copper audiophile cable' and the monumental 'green marker for improving cd audio'
21:30 mircea_popescu you could definitely train someone to get hard at the sight of ears
21:30 mircea_popescu or hair.
21:30 mircea_popescu the former i've actually observed irl.
21:30 asciilifeform more commonly given example is shoes
21:30 asciilifeform but betcha hair works in the land of the chador
21:31 mircea_popescu yeah, very picket-fence-y this one. the usian housewive only wears heels the night she's gonna fuck "the master of the house", and so...
21:31 asciilifeform (and a silhouette of a head is probably enough in the land of burqa)
21:31 mircea_popescu asciilifeform very amusingly, the arabs a) don'
21:31 mircea_popescu t react to the bare cunt much and b) can't actually draw the female body.
21:31 asciilifeform mega-unsurprise
21:32 mircea_popescu which is a pity because arab sluts have really nice ass/waist combos.
21:33 Varia_Varietatis ;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis D126595B
21:33 Varia_Varietatis ;;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis D126595B
21:33 gribble Error: 'D126595B' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
21:34 Varia_Varietatis ;;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis 95AD4E4BD126595B
21:34 gribble Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
21:34 asciilifeform doesn't appear to be in sks
21:35 Varia_Varietatis asciilifeform: how can I add it?
21:35 mircea_popescu "Peer priorities are based on matching the connecting IP against a set of IP groups. For now, the only IP group is one that gives Tor exits a score of -10."
21:35 mircea_popescu fucking retarded, seriously ? bayesian approach ?
21:35 mircea_popescu that particular bit of pseudoscientific nonsense is not dying soon, is it.
21:36 asciilifeform Varia_Varietatis: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-04-2015#1105532
21:36 assbot Logged on 21-04-2015 11:41:31; mircea_popescu: and then $ gpg --keyserver sks-keyservers.net --send-key <KEYID> and $ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-key <KEYID> where keyid you just copy from the line above.
21:36 mircea_popescu why the fuck is it so intuitively obvious to stupid people that keeping a list of sins is practicable, useful or desirable.
21:36 kakobrekla Varia_Varietatis it takes some time for key to be visible on sks, apart from that i think you might be hopping the wrong bot
21:37 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: because they are unable to synthesize
21:37 mircea_popescu so how do they eat ?
21:37 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: these are the same folks who think that education consists of 'having read many learnedbooks'
21:37 mircea_popescu shit
21:37 mircea_popescu this is how they eat. hence macdonalds and starbucks.
21:37 mircea_popescu omfg.
21:37 asciilifeform aha
21:37 asciilifeform see?
21:37 mircea_popescu i think this is the principal stupidity.
21:38 mircea_popescu the belief that sins are an ennumeration.
21:38 asciilifeform not only sins
21:38 asciilifeform they do everything via lookup table
21:38 asciilifeform but more importantly, assume that this is the only possible way anything could be done.
21:38 mircea_popescu sins are the basis of errything
21:38 asciilifeform some supposedly 'intelligent' folks took this to ridiculous heights
21:38 asciilifeform like doug lenat
21:39 asciilifeform who said something like 'cognition is ten thousand if-statements'
21:39 mircea_popescu heh.
21:39 asciilifeform (improvement over the skinnerists, who thought it was... 4 if-statements)
21:40 mircea_popescu the amusing thing to me is that all the libertard anglos read baudrillard, deleuze, lyotard, & co like the dog listens to music.
21:40 mircea_popescu ten thousand if statements is pre fucking saussure ffs.
21:41 mircea_popescu an understanding of things up to the most recent discoveries & bleeding edge of understanding cca 1815
21:41 Varia_Varietatis kakobrekla: Hopping the wrong bot?
21:41 mircea_popescu you want assbot
21:41 mircea_popescu !like so
21:43 Varia_Varietatis !gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis 95AD4E4BD126595B
21:43 Varia_Varietatis like that?
21:44 danielpbarron you don't need your nickname in the query
21:44 kakobrekla !register <full_gpg_keyid>
21:44 assbot Nick kakobrekla is already taken.
21:44 danielpbarron and that doesn't look to be long enough for a fingerprint
21:45 kakobrekla how many asseteers to register a key?
21:46 Varia_Varietatis How can I check if its on the key server yet?
21:46 danielpbarron one way is to get the command right
21:50 asciilifeform !up Varia_Varietatis
21:52 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233727 << yes, i had one. no, i can't think of a reason to tear my pockets with it again
21:52 assbot Logged on 10-08-2015 22:33:07; mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> there is no reason for '90s bricks. << motorola made them with good enough antenna assemblages you could bash a head in. also the hi q plastics in the casing allowed one to drive mercedes over phone and then use it.
21:53 asciilifeform why not return to the '80s briefcase phone, too
21:53 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233729 << and a death ray, '... and a pony'
21:53 assbot Logged on 10-08-2015 22:34:45; mircea_popescu: if only ubuntu weren't fucktarded we could recommend it to noobs.
21:54 Varia_Varietatis I put in my full finger print with spaces and without didnt work.
21:54 BingoBoingo !up n6 Tell these kind folks what you accomplished today.
21:54 n6 I installed open bsd
21:55 n6 thanks to everyone who helped.
21:56 BingoBoingo n6: And you are going to continue consulting the man pages when things go wrong?
21:56 n6 Yes, im done with the ubuntu style of copy paste guide.
21:57 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you had a favourite book re: openbsd i recall ?
21:57 asciilifeform perhaps n6 would like it.
21:57 n6 I will be reading that asap
21:57 n6 and the unix book you told me about.
21:58 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: "Absolute OpenBSD"
21:58 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Book also has danielpbarron's endorsement
21:59 danielpbarron yes, and OpenBSD is very easy to install
21:59 danielpbarron almost a joy
21:59 n6 got gentoo installed only to lose my lsub, and have my ethernet router stepped on in such a way all 4 ports went out.
22:00 n6 Couldn't recover after that.
22:00 BingoBoingo Just remember OpenBSD still contains plenty of ways to hang yourself. On the plus side almost all of them are very well documented.
22:02 Varia_Varietatis I still can't seem to join the wot. putting in my full keyid 95AD4E4BD126595B
22:03 mircea_popescu that's half a keyid.
22:03 mircea_popescu mine's 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452 not 76998A736F0E2FB7B452
22:03 Varia_Varietatis How do I get that out of gpg?
22:04 mircea_popescu --fingerprint
22:04 mircea_popescu http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x95AD4E4BD126595B << and you're on sks alright.
22:04 assbot Public Key Server -- Get "0x95ad4e4bd126595b " ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmBz76 )
22:06 Varia_Varietatis got it
22:06 * asciilifeform back, was playing with his first proper crusscut shredder
22:07 asciilifeform *crosscut
22:07 asciilifeform thing claims to cut disks, even.
22:07 Varia_Varietatis ;;gpg eauth Varia_Varietatis
22:07 gribble Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
22:08 Varia_Varietatis ;;gpg eregister Varia_Varietatis D126595B
22:08 gribble Error: 'D126595B' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
22:08 mircea_popescu wrong bot still.
22:09 danielpbarron Varia_Varietatis, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-04-2015#1102946
22:09 assbot Logged on 17-04-2015 02:56:31; jayk: !register 7AA64CBF8362275B2189869784A13BE284D27F50
22:10 Varia_Varietatis danielpbarron, Already did that in pm trying to auth now.
22:10 danielpbarron do it in here
22:10 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I had a cheap crosscut machine that experience the general mysterious "stopped working" failure mode most consumer products from walmart do.
22:11 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the eventual fate of all things
22:11 danielpbarron !gettrust Varia_Varietatis
22:11 assbot Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user Varia_Varietatis: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=danielpbarron&to=Varia_Varietatis | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Varia_Varietatis/
22:11 danielpbarron ah, you are registered. Now type /msg assbot !up
22:11 asciilifeform pretty sure that all shredders other than perhaps petrol-powered 'enron'-grade units, will croak after a thousand pgs or so
22:12 Varia_Varietatis Need a better rating.
22:12 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Ah.
22:12 danielpbarron Varia_Varietatis, that's your next step then :D
22:12 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: doesn't hurt to oil the thing, also.
22:12 asciilifeform like any other cutting tool
22:13 Varia_Varietatis ;;rate BingoBoingo should have better read his gpg guides.
22:13 gribble Error: 'should' is not a valid integer.
22:13 BingoBoingo Of course.
22:13 Varia_Varietatis ;;rate BingoBoingo 1 should have better read his gpg guides.
22:13 gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
22:13 BingoBoingo Varia_Varietatis: Oh, that one's outdated as far as bot registration for this channel goes
22:13 asciilifeform still using wrong bot
22:14 asciilifeform Varia_Varietatis: gribble is no longer used here
22:14 Varia_Varietatis !rate BingoBoingo 1 should have read his gpg guides better.
22:14 assbot You must be rated before you can rate.
22:15 Varia_Varietatis So now what?
22:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform my tm shredder cut ~78k pages. electric. diamond blades.
22:16 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: spiffy
22:16 asciilifeform if i had 78k pgs in one crate, would probably just burn'em
22:16 mircea_popescu if you recall, i burned the shreds.
22:16 BingoBoingo Varia_Varietatis: Do any of us know you from anywhere? Forgive me. My memory is imperfect.
22:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha, yes!
22:17 Varia_Varietatis I used to be n6 but lost my key.
22:17 mircea_popescu sop. at least in civilised circles.
22:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wouldn't want to burn the confetti from this one. on account of every other snail mail envelope containing an unsolicited plastic bank card
22:17 n6 here I am two places at once
22:17 BingoBoingo !rate Varia_Varietatis 1 New, Ambitious, reading man pages
22:17 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/f144d627770cc7cd
22:17 asciilifeform 'borrow 500k! you know you wanna!!1111!!11'
22:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: these are pestilential here
22:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: hence why even the lowliest schmuck owns shredder
22:18 BingoBoingo !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.Varia_Varietatis.1:11486eec2825b32310ab05b0307c68cc85468a2f8e867bd28f1c4beb2442d430
22:18 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for Varia_Varietatis with note: New, Ambitious, reading man pages
22:19 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: wouldn't want to burn the confetti from this one. on account of every other snail mail envelope containing an unsolicited plastic bank card << Why are you so afraid of burning petro-strange?
22:19 Varia_Varietatis !rate BingoBoingo wrote the gpg guide.
22:19 assbot Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10.
22:19 Varia_Varietatis !rate BingoBoingo 1 wrote the gpg guide.
22:19 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/2f8c24bf26164b4d
22:19 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: don't like the smell. and neighbours won't either
22:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i live in 'civilization', recall.
22:20 BingoBoingo Ah, I forget "east coast"
22:20 BingoBoingo Burning strange is much more acceptable in this region
22:22 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233875 << i might have said this before, but if this is actually possible, i'm probably it
22:22 assbot Logged on 10-08-2015 23:57:29; mircea_popescu: mostly a disease of "visual thinkers", as illustrated by the poor job they do at covering the actual space.
22:23 TomServo I'm late to the party, but thought I'd report my 0.5.3.1 is also wedged @ 367850.
22:24 TomServo I can provide logs if it's of any help.
22:24 asciilifeform TomServo: long ago fixed
22:24 BingoBoingo TomServo: Rebuilt editing db.cpp to much higher settings
22:24 TomServo Effort better spent building rotor?
22:25 asciilifeform TomServo: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000139.html
22:25 assbot [BTC-dev] (CORRECTED) Bullet in the Forehead for the BDB LocksIdiocy ... ( http://bit.ly/1JWNo0i )
22:26 asciilifeform TomServo: and yes, i recommend rotor.
22:26 asciilifeform but rotor doesn't tell you what patches to use
22:27 asciilifeform that is up to you.
22:27 asciilifeform (once mod6 and ben_vulpes come up with an official release - can use that, also)
22:30 TomServo I'm probably too slow to be much use, but what are the current requests for testing? still TEST2? or rotor?
22:37 BingoBoingo WHy not TEST2 in rotor?
22:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform "it" what ?
22:41 asciilifeform 'visual think'
22:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9957 @ 0.00059925 = 5.9667 BTC [-]
22:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14618 @ 0.00059629 = 8.7166 BTC [-] {3}
22:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20043 @ 0.00059774 = 11.9805 BTC [+] {3}
22:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10181 @ 0.00059924 = 6.1009 BTC [+] {2}
22:51 mircea_popescu http://33.media.tumblr.com/ea19b4078947b7a8f275fb8f95b8a0ef/tumblr_miprrmQSJO1s0bp20o1_500.gif special for alfie
22:51 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmF3X6 )
22:53 * BingoBoingo got new 64 GB usb drive to day for blockchain backup, formats as FFS
22:57 BingoBoingo !up Varia_Varietatis
22:57 BingoBoingo !unrate Varia_Varietatis
22:57 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/737bb735f5f3e07a
22:57 Varia_Varietatis Guys I forgot the passphase on the key I just made.
22:57 mircea_popescu !down Varia_Varietatis
22:58 BingoBoingo !v assbot:BingoBoingo.unrate.Varia_Varietatis:0849b388f960f2692a5f90663ca03599e09d7f361ee68674225ed865270b9ae8
22:58 assbot Successfully unrated Varia_Varietatis
22:58 BingoBoingo 6 months apply again
23:02 scoopbot_revived Copay Multisig Vulnerability Reported http://qntra.net/2015/08/copay-multisig-vulnerability-reported/
23:05 lobbes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-08-2015#1233054 << made a few config changes to it; was set to check feeds every 2 minutes, now checks every 30. Currently monitoring it on my test channel.
23:05 assbot Logged on 10-08-2015 03:13:24; asciilifeform: ;;later tell lobbes can we has the bot back plz ?
23:05 lobbes This is just a workaround, though. I still have to discern where in the code it zeros out the cache. So I'm not confident putting back into 'production' just yet.
23:06 BingoBoingo http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dDe4I92UUt4/VZmCn6pWpMI/AAAAAAAALqc/hHuRqfGUUo4/s400/IMG_3315.JPG
23:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DJ7EWy )
23:07 Apocalyptic BingoBoingo, you know the Coinspect blog post is more than a year old right ?
23:08 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: It was brought to my attention today and the story has an important moral. Don't set conditions for letting a machine automatically sign your shit.
23:09 BingoBoingo Because that's probably the next -XT feature.
23:09 mircea_popescu Fri, 07/25/2014 darn
23:09 mircea_popescu well, i never noticed.
23:09 Apocalyptic yeah that's worthwhile to point out, just that it's not really newsworthy
23:09 BingoBoingo Eh, I'll remove the "news" tag
23:12 BingoBoingo At least it happened before Qntra
23:14 mircea_popescu soo, somewhat interesting, maybe. 1984 was actually born at a precise place : "In nationalist thought there are facts which are both true and untrue, known and unknown. A known fact may be so unbearable that it is habitually pushed aside and not allowed to enter into logical processes, or on the other hand it may enter into every calculation and yet never be admitted as a fact, even in one's own mind." appears in a 194
23:14 mircea_popescu 5 piece denouncing "nationalism". which, at the time, simply denoted what socialism (or "liberalism" as it usually self-identifies) denotes today : the ideology of stupid people.
23:14 mircea_popescu meanwhile tyhe next paragraph is actually the valuable bit :
23:14 mircea_popescu "Every nationalist is haunted by the belief that the past can be altered. He spends part of his time in a fantasy world in which things happen as they should–in which, for example, the Spanish Armada was a success or the Russian Revolution was crushed in 1918–and he will transfer fragments of this world to the history books whenever possible. Much of the propagandist writing of our time amounts to plain forgery. Ma
23:14 mircea_popescu terial facts are suppressed, dates altered, quotations removed from their context and doctored so as to change their meaning. Events which it is felt ought not to have happened are left unmentioned and ultimately denied [Note, below]. In 1927 Chiang Kai Shek boiled hundreds of Communists alive, and yet within ten years he had become one of the heroes of the Left. The re-alignment of world politics had brought him into
23:14 mircea_popescu the anti-Fascist camp, and so it was felt that the boiling of the Communists 'didn't count', or perhaps had not happened. The primary aim of propaganda is, of course, to influence contemporary opinion, but those who rewrite history do probably believe with part of their minds that they are actually thrusting facts into the past. When one considers the elaborate forgeries that have been committed in order to show that T
23:14 mircea_popescu rotsky did not play a valuable part in the Russian civil war, it is difficult to feel that the people responsible are merely lying. More probably they feel that their own version was what happened in the sight of God, and that one is justified in rearranging the records accordingly."
23:15 mircea_popescu replace "nationalist" with "socialist" (or, if you prefer to use the self term, "liberal") and note how the ideology of the stupid still behaves today in the manner it behaved then.
23:16 mircea_popescu thus therefore : mozart had a sister ; there existed black people of import in history ; global warming was the consensus during the mini ice age six centuries ago and so on.
23:19 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234099 << l0l
23:19 assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 02:51:24; mircea_popescu: http://33.media.tumblr.com/ea19b4078947b7a8f275fb8f95b8a0ef/tumblr_miprrmQSJO1s0bp20o1_500.gif special for alfie
23:20 mircea_popescu well ?
23:20 asciilifeform that cock isn't even parked
23:21 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234126 << linked it here at least 3 times l0l
23:21 assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 03:14:33; mircea_popescu: meanwhile tyhe next paragraph is actually the valuable bit :
23:21 mats i am fond of that actress
23:21 mircea_popescu i'm slow.
23:21 asciilifeform !s nationalist is haunted by the belief
23:21 assbot 2 results for 'nationalist is haunted by the belief' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nationalist+is+haunted+by+the+belief
23:21 mircea_popescu mats you know her ?
23:22 mats nah. i know of her
23:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform except it pointedly has nothing to do with "nationalist"
23:22 mircea_popescu it's just the twerp who wants to "be part of something"
23:22 mircea_popescu "and help change the world"
23:22 mats you know, in her professional capacity as an actress.
23:22 asciilifeform it had to do with certain folks of the period who did, well, what mr o describes
23:22 asciilifeform but not 'nationalist' in the usual sense, no
23:22 mircea_popescu yeah, because they didn't have reddit yet. same govt jobs, tho.
23:23 asciilifeform approximately.
23:23 asciilifeform also related:
23:24 asciilifeform 'ONE way of feeling infallible is not to keep a diary. Looking back through the diary I kept in 1940 and 1941 I find that I was usually wrong when it was possible to be wrong. Yet I was not so wrong as the Military Experts. Experts of various schools were telling us in 1939 that the Maginot Line was impregnable, and that the Russo-German Pact had put an end to Hitler’s eastwards expansion; in early 1940 they were telling us
23:24 asciilifeform that the days of tank warfare were over; in mid 1940 they were telling us that the Germans would invade Britain forthwith; in mid 1941 that the Red army would fold up in six weeks; in December 1941, that Japan would collapse after ninety days; in July 1942, that Egypt was lost and so on, more or less indefinitely. Where now are the men who told us those things? Still on the job, drawing fat salaries. Instead of the unsinkable
23:24 asciilifeform battleship we have the unsinkable Military Expert . . .'
23:24 asciilifeform ( http://www.telelib.com/authors/O/OrwellGeorge/essay/tribune/AsIPlease19431217.html )
23:24 assbot 17 December 1943 - As I Please - George Orwell, Book, etext ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzTnjj )
23:24 mircea_popescu "(iii) COLOUR FEELING. The old-style contemptuous attitude towards 'natives' has been much weakened in England, and various pseudo-scientific theories emphasising the superiority of the white race have been abandoned.[Note, below] Among the intelligentsia, colour feeling only occurs in the transposed form, that is, as a belief in the innate superiority of the coloured races. This is now increasingly common among Englis
23:24 mircea_popescu h intellectuals, probably resulting more often from masochism and sexual frustration than from contact with the Oriental and Negro nationalist movements."
23:24 mircea_popescu ha!
23:24 mircea_popescu i guess i restated orwell.
23:24 asciilifeform hey whatcanyado, man had eyes, saw.
23:24 mats i found out today my former verizon wireless grandfathered unlimited plan is worth 1k on ebay
23:25 mircea_popescu moreover, the purely sexual drive of the entire "black superiority" notion held strictly by pencilnecked white guys is glaring.
23:25 mats craziness
23:25 mircea_popescu mats get used to it. this is how socialism goes.
23:25 asciilifeform mats: prolly not really transferable
23:25 mircea_popescu grandfathered everything were worth insane amounts. like you know, "being served by the old style dumpsters rather than the new ones"
23:26 asciilifeform prolly most famous example in the world is nyc flats
23:26 mats you can transfer ownership to someone else, i met a guy today that bought it
23:26 mircea_popescu asciilifeform "rent controlled" ones, yes
23:26 asciilifeform them.
23:26 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> battleship we have the unsinkable Military Expert . . .' << The "men" were defeating "analysis"
23:26 mats he travels for work and the plan is entirely unthrottled, uses 3-400gb of LTE every month
23:27 asciilifeform mats: it is unclear to me what precisely obligates verizon to keep renewing these contracts
23:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00059484 = 12.9675 BTC [-]
23:27 asciilifeform it isn't the rental of hongkong, there were no spans denominated in centuries in there
23:28 mats prob customer loyalty
23:30 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234169 << when i was in timis., my brain melted upon seeing what looked very much like my childhood dumpsters
23:30 assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 03:25:45; mircea_popescu: grandfathered everything were worth insane amounts. like you know, "being served by the old style dumpsters rather than the new ones"
23:32 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234132 << mozart did have a sister. who, iirc, did not compose, but played passably
23:32 assbot Logged on 11-08-2015 03:16:11; mircea_popescu: thus therefore : mozart had a sister ; there existed black people of import in history ; global warming was the consensus during the mini ice age six centuries ago and so on.
23:33 BingoBoingo Oh, apparently reddit admins just straight up changed the moderators of /r/PunchableFaces
23:33 asciilifeform much of what we know of the man's mind comes from letters to his sister, srsly
23:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform did you see the film ?
23:33 asciilifeform no film
23:33 asciilifeform just the letters
23:33 mircea_popescu is what i was speaking towards.
23:33 asciilifeform what film
23:34 mircea_popescu libertards made a film about "mozart as a woman", but not actually insane enough to just do it, so it came out a sort of pancake.
23:34 asciilifeform l0l!
23:34 mircea_popescu it cost me some stuff i won't disclose,
23:34 mircea_popescu i had a long standing bet that the "nationalists" will make a "shakespeare was a woman. rly. " attempt at rewriting history to fit the agenda
23:35 mircea_popescu or you know, what they perceive is right in god's eye.
23:35 asciilifeform they also have a long-standing idiocy re: einstein, on same pattern
23:35 asciilifeform he is also in the queue for a film, i imagie.
23:35 mircea_popescu "Nationalistic attachment to the coloured races is usually mixed up with the belief that their sex lives are superior, and there is a large underground mythology about the sexual prowess of Negroes."
23:35 asciilifeform *imagine
23:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform is his female name noether ?
23:35 asciilifeform nah that would make some semblance of sense
23:36 mircea_popescu this is perhaps the most objectionable part of these fried chicken niggers, clogging government with their unwelcome corpses.
23:36 asciilifeform the liberast version is instead that 'he stole from his ex-wife'
23:36 mircea_popescu instead of learning the world as it is, they dream up an infinitely boring-er, stolid-er, like them-er one.
23:36 asciilifeform naturally
23:36 asciilifeform who wants to wake up to being garbage
23:36 mircea_popescu i'd be curious to see what'd happen to one of these scumcanoes should they get somehow magically stuck into seeing themselves with the eyes of a sane person.
23:36 mircea_popescu that'd make one great film.
23:37 asciilifeform no doubt this film will be made. one day.
23:37 mircea_popescu 3 hours of this, julia roberts going slowly insane while seeking the help of an entire array of "experts" to make reality CEASE!11
23:37 asciilifeform but will likely have the flavour of 'donald duck in nazi-land'
23:37 mircea_popescu maybe she could blow her brains out at the premiere, right on the red carpet.
23:37 asciilifeform failing this, theatre will have to pass out tabs of lsd with tickets
23:37 BingoBoingo OH, /r/punchablefaces was turned over to SJW's and Libertards supporting Bernie Sanders revolted
23:37 mircea_popescu or even make the tickets be the tabs
23:38 asciilifeform ^^^
23:38 asciilifeform win
23:38 asciilifeform it is difficult to make convincing films about insane folks
23:38 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lmao
23:38 asciilifeform but technology can help!!11
23:38 mircea_popescu yeah, one of the best to date (good will hunting) was drastically unconvincing
23:38 mircea_popescu points for "best effort", but still.
23:39 asciilifeform it was a mega-letdown
23:39 asciilifeform i expected things from that film.
23:39 mircea_popescu never a good idea
23:39 asciilifeform aha.
23:39 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Apparently much of reddit was upvoating multiple posts of the #Blacklivesmatter Hamplanet who got a bernie sanders speech canceled as an /r/punchableface this was followed by Reddit censorship in the name of Cliter. Now there's a fuckton of wholes becasue no one on reddit uses archive.is
23:40 mircea_popescu lol
23:40 mircea_popescu i have no idea who bernie sanders is, or why black lives'd matter.
23:40 mircea_popescu fill me in ?
23:41 mircea_popescu (do they mean "the lives of blacks" matter ?)
23:41 BingoBoingo And yet, Black owned businesses are still being looted in Fergeson by niggers to the point Black people hate niggers
23:41 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> (do they mean "the lives of blacks" matter ?) << Yes
23:41 mircea_popescu this was in dispute ?
23:41 mircea_popescu why do they say "black lives" when they mean "the lives of blacks" ?
23:41 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> i have no idea who bernie sanders is, or why black lives'd matter. << The democrat running against Cliter in the presidential primary who admits to being a socialist
23:41 asciilifeform as with all usg slogans, it has a very reversed 'freedom is slavery' meaning in reality
23:41 mircea_popescu aok
23:41 BingoBoingo Because they lack "Pro Grammar"
23:41 mircea_popescu ahahaha
23:41 asciilifeform flip the bits
23:42 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/AjbcI
23:42 assbot [BRDSCUSSION] Reddit is in the throes of a white supremacist meltdown regarding Black Lives Matter and Bernie Sanders : ShitRedditSays ... ( http://bit.ly/1huyVlB )
23:42 mircea_popescu who's the white supremacist ? the hamplanet or sanders ?
23:42 mircea_popescu "Multiple sisters in BRD such as /u/topyka2"
23:43 mircea_popescu what's a sister in brd ?
23:43 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Both are Black supremacists.
23:43 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The complication and number of steps you have to understand are "essential propaganda noise"
23:44 mircea_popescu so wait. the black people that have no pro-grammar make the lives of blacks matter by opposing the campaign appearances of a white guy that runs against a white woman for the nomination to presidency of the democratic party ?
23:44 BingoBoingo The hamplanet was black and Bernie Sanders is this cycle's prime food stamp candidate
23:44 BingoBoingo Yes
23:44 mircea_popescu so they have 0 to do with the lives of black people, being just another outsourced astroturf effort ?
23:45 mircea_popescu and the only place where this matters is reddit, much in the way the only place you find bilge is down in the keel ?
23:45 BingoBoingo "I'm not so prepared to dismiss this protest as "poorly researched" or "poorly executed." I feel like this protest follows a pattern that's so common in feminist and queer circles that we should recognize and expect it now: we critique each other to make our movement inclusive and intersectional, so that our spaces might reject all oppressive forms. When a queer bar isn't entirely inclusive to people that aren't cis-white-rich-gay
23:45 BingoBoingo men, it's much easier to critique and change that bar into one that is inclusive than to petition the nearest straight bar. When Taylor Swift fucks up as a feminist, we call her out (yet we don't call out men or women who do not identify as feminist with nearly such vigor). Why? Because we hope that these people are much more inclined to listen and to uplift further marginalized people and movements.
23:45 BingoBoingo When no candidate is in full support of your movement, it's going to be easiest to convince the one that is somewhat supportive to do a better job than to convince your greatest enemy to do a slightly less shitty job."
23:45 mircea_popescu "We here at /r/ShitRedditSays are taking the firm policy"
23:45 mircea_popescu who's "we here" ?
23:45 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> so they have 0 to do with the lives of black people, being just another outsourced astroturf effort ? << up, see above
23:45 mircea_popescu "feminist and queer circles" ?
23:46 mircea_popescu isn't this insulting to the actual shape involved ?
23:46 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The collective farm we. The gulag's vote as reported in Washington
23:46 mircea_popescu which is more like a donut
23:46 BingoBoingo It's insulting to literacy in general
23:46 mircea_popescu well that's a given
23:46 BingoBoingo No language should have to suffer this attempt at persuasive prose.
23:47 mircea_popescu anyway, the faux-soviet terminology is endearing. such wannabes.
23:47 BingoBoingo C++ is embarrassed right now that an English speaker birthed it
23:47 mircea_popescu "When Taylor Swift fucks up as a feminist"
23:47 mircea_popescu who's taylor swift ?
23:48 mircea_popescu i thought it was this season's britney spears
23:48 pete_dushenski she is, but $200 mn 'dollars' worth
23:48 mircea_popescu hardly.
23:48 pete_dushenski i didn't make this up
23:48 mircea_popescu so how is a plastic bimbo that exists to keep these idiots chugging along in the muck "a feminist" ?
23:48 BingoBoingo Taylor Swift could actually get the dick though. Britney Chain always had the crazy.
23:48 funkenstein_ we need dave chapelle back to straighten all this out for us
23:49 mircea_popescu is that the black pothead ?
23:49 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> so how is a plastic bimbo that exists to keep these idiots chugging along in the muck "a feminist" ? << Swift like Beyonce used the word feminist thinking it would "expand their market"
23:49 funkenstein_ not sure, depends on your context
23:49 pete_dushenski "name da 5 best rappers of all time : dylan, dylan, dylan, dylan, and dylan"
23:49 mircea_popescu he;'s the dude with the nigger family sketch right ?
23:49 funkenstein_ yeah :)
23:49 funkenstein_ and the racial draft
23:49 BingoBoingo Related https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/10/003907a204cfd290cdbc62ea1bf7bb8a.png
23:49 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1UzV8gj )
23:50 funkenstein_ and who was it Clayton Biggles?
23:50 pete_dushenski and the black white supremacist.
23:50 funkenstein_ ^
23:50 pete_dushenski bigsby iirc
23:50 BingoBoingo <pete_dushenski> and the black white supremacist. << Old meme. Been done since 1620
23:50 mircea_popescu "However, as this matter might not be fully understood, we would like to open a space for discussion in order to further understanding. The usual rules about circlequeefing and Rule X (to an extent) do not apply in this thread, however we expect discussion to be in good faith and a genuine attempt to understand the white supremacy behind the angry reactions to Black Lives Matter's quite frankly highly successful and ex
23:50 mircea_popescu tremely necessary protesting. Note that this is not a debate. The angry backlash at Black Lives Matter is pure white supremacy and this is not up for compromise, however there are few sources for understanding why this fact is, and we would like to help our sisters in BRD understand them better."
23:50 funkenstein_ i'm still a free agent
23:50 mircea_popescu can i have this translated to english ?
23:51 mircea_popescu and wtf are "the sisters in brd" already.
23:51 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It doesn't translate to anything
23:51 asciilifeform what next translated to english? the schizo bum ranting on the corner also has material for translation !
23:51 asciilifeform and likely - more interesting
23:51 mircea_popescu "Gynocratic Council
23:51 mircea_popescu High Chancellor of Free Speech"
23:51 mircea_popescu lmao.
23:52 mircea_popescu i'm surprised "at large" isn't in there.
23:52 mircea_popescu perhaps too uncomfortable.
23:52 mircea_popescu "gynocratic councillor at large" sounds pretty apt for plenty of these tho
23:52 BingoBoingo Dude had a campaign rally, dark Hamplanet hijacked the stage because can't afford cameras, supporters of candidate suddenly racist
23:52 pete_dushenski 'and in charge' tailing that
23:52 mircea_popescu Of the top 50 /r/punchablefaces, 42 of them are about the BLM protestors. The top 10 have a combined total of over 47k points, more than 3x the amount of points than what Obama's AMA got, or hell even twice the top post of all time from me_irl.
23:52 mircea_popescu bwhgahaha
23:53 mircea_popescu so wait, i thought the libertards were you know, dominating and shit ?
23:53 mircea_popescu where is it ?
23:53 mircea_popescu who was derping on about how the circle-queef to use its self-given name was in charge of the us ?
23:54 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> so wait, i thought the libertards were you know, dominating and shit ? << Actual libertards love Bernie Sanders because he confesses to being socialist. Lizard Libertards want Clitler so... Social media fight
23:54 mircea_popescu o ic.
23:54 mircea_popescu mkay.
23:54 BingoBoingo Basically this is all an intra libertard fight
23:56 mircea_popescu But here’s the thing – what’s powerful about these interruptions from Black women is less how it has changed the tone of the Democratic campaigns and more about what they have exposed in the White left.
23:56 mircea_popescu I see these protests as less about the individual candidates themselves and more about how their White base refuses to center Black lives and Black issues.
23:56 mircea_popescu well doh. who the fuck cares. blacks are what 11% ?
23:56 BingoBoingo But the Handlers never imagined that one sect would go so over the rails in the name of "intersectionality" that the Level 1 socialists could defeat the Lv 65 NPC pan-racial boss by swarming
23:56 mircea_popescu not notable. and in any case already overrepresented and overcatered.
23:56 mircea_popescu not to mention the part where most black people actually would rather be NOT part of the little africa ghetto these fucktards are trying to build.
23:58 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> I see these protests as less about the individual candidates themselves and more about how their White base refuses to center Black lives and Black issues. << This is the great problem of "the people" as a construct.
23:59 mircea_popescu no but srsly, center black people ? what is this.
23:59 mircea_popescu next we're going to center bitcoin around the power rangers or some equally deranged shit,
23:59 mircea_popescu because a vague affiliation with a crumbly, 1/10 base can be parlayed into interest through speaking really loudly.
23:59 BingoBoingo "the people" as retarded in development as it necessarily is always presents as a unified mass when it is really a bunch of things that don't agree on a single point.
23:59 mircea_popescu herp.
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