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15:10 gregorynyssa asciilifeform: given that you spend not inconsiderable time upon Linux, which shell do you prefer?
15:11 gregorynyssa does csh(1) aka. tcsh(1) have any merit, in your opinion?
15:17 asciilifeform gregorynyssa: asciilifeform to this day uses bash
15:18 asciilifeform ( which sadly not in fact standard at all fwiw )
15:18 dulapbot Logged on 2022-04-11 22:08:25 asciilifeform: ( not to mention, ~errybody's 'sh' is actually bash-only )
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15:37 gregorynyssa asciilifeform: if I understand correctly from that thread, you are saying that the POSIX standard for shells is too crippled
15:37 gregorynyssa that it cannot be used to write non-trivial shell-scripts, is that right?
15:41 gregorynyssa I am not comfortable with the fourth-generation shells: bash(1), zsh(1), KSH93.
15:45 gregorynyssa I like the Slackware fork of dash(1) but it has some errors, including in the latest release, 15.0.
15:48 gregorynyssa << line-at-a-time execution is a different genre from modular programming.
15:48 dulapbot Logged on 2022-04-11 22:09:05 asciilifeform: sh, perlism, pythonism, 'must die'(tm) imho.
15:49 gregorynyssa thus it makes sense for a shell-language and a programming language to coexist.
15:51 gregorynyssa even on a system of exemplary design.
15:52 gregorynyssa I would even admit a tripartite distinction: shell-language, "tractate" language (such as awk(1) or Tcl, but with clean semantics), and modular language.
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