| 02:19 |
adlai |
it's unfixable by now, although the previous day's log page contains a broken link due to IRC message fragmentation (specifically, the link to cgra.net for the text "spam guard") |
| 02:21 |
adlai |
I'm uncertain whether there is any reasonable action item from that specific failure; that exact pattern is detectable by the log server, and all that remains is convincing myself that such automated detection-and-fixing is not unreasonable. |
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| 02:23 |
adlai |
verisimilitude: the conversation didn't cease, it was "only resting"... I was even still connected to dulapnet, only parted from the channel. |
| 02:27 |
adlai |
wrt birthdays: for some reason, the magic number that I recall is 23, not ~30... sure, these are same OOM in base decimal, give or take a hand, although I wonder whether my mind plays tricks again. |
| 02:29 |
adlai |
the heuristic which I recall is that you can expect a 'Birthday Collision' somewhere around (sqrt (length sample-space)) samples; for the solar year, this is slightly over 19. |
| 02:31 |
adlai |
in other yakshaves, I wonder what convention to adopt for parenthetical remarks, given that I prefer to reserve #\( and #\) for lisp code, and it could be seen as excessive overloading to use them for both code snippets, and parenthetical remarks; easiest unknotting is simply, "do not make parenthetical remarks; either speak, or don't."! |
| 02:36 |
verisimilitude |
I referred to the email conversations, adlai. |
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| 02:38 |
verisimilitude |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-19#1036887 https://github.com/nineties/planckforth |
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| 02:38 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-05-19 14:24:35 snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-18 19:55:54 asciilifeform: trinque: since you mentioned script langs: considering, after ffa, to attempt a 'dethompsonizing' simple gc-less scheme in asm, in style of 'M' as a scripting lang. can't speak for erryone, but i've wanted a <32kB scripting lang that 'compiles with bare hands' for many yrs. |
| 02:52 |
verisimilitude |
I've become increasingly convinced over the past few months that programming is best done with as little computation as feasible. |
| 02:52 |
verisimilitude |
Computation is disgusting where unnecessary. |
| 02:52 |
verisimilitude |
I refer to tables. |
| 02:54 |
verisimilitude |
As a very basic example: Consider comparing an integer to a static limit, without using a comparator. |
| 02:54 |
verisimilitude |
Consider an octet; the problem could easily be solved by a bit-table for each value. |
| 02:55 |
verisimilitude |
However, suppose the limit is high. |
| 02:55 |
verisimilitude |
Suppose it be noticed the first four bits must be one for the limit to be plausibly hit. |
| 02:56 |
verisimilitude |
Well, that enables a sixteen-entry table conditionally used with a few ANDs. |
| 02:56 |
verisimilitude |
That's arguably nicer. |
| 02:56 |
verisimilitude |
It uses the square root of the space of the former table solution. |
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| 02:56 |
verisimilitude |
I want to program with tables and simple composition rules everywhere. |
| 02:57 |
verisimilitude |
Tables give the ability to easily review and dynamically modify a running system, as well. |
| 02:57 |
verisimilitude |
Why have opaque functions over tables, where unnecessary? |
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| 07:14 |
punkman |
"Kleiman v. Wright update: We are incredibly gratified the jury found Craig Wright has to pay our client, W&K, $100,000,000 for the bitcoin-related assets he stole." |
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| 07:15 |
punkman |
"In the past I had often fervently wished that one day everyone would be passionate and excited about scientific research. I should have been more careful about what I had wished for." |
| 07:15 |
punkman |
(from https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/pandemic-science) |
| 07:18 |
punkman |
"An analysis showed that scientists from every single one of the 174 disciplines that comprise what we know as science has published on COVID-19. By the end of 2020, only automobile engineering didn’t have scientists publishing on COVID-19. By early 2021, the automobile engineers had their say, too." |
| 07:21 |
punkman |
"The dominant narrative became that “we are at war.” When at war, everyone has to follow orders. If a platoon is ordered to go right and some soldiers explore maneuvering to the left, they are shot as deserters. Scientific skepticism had to be shot, no questions asked. The orders were clear. " |
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| 16:17 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: lulzy. ( see also. a.rosov (ru fella) in fact said exactly same thing in '19: 'they need a ww3 but can't afford, will organize fictional one' ) |
| 16:17 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-10-31 23:13:21 asciilifeform: signpost: in '19 was already clear imho 'they need a worldwar' but also clear that can't afford actual one. so instead organized fictional one |
| 16:18 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-07#1068893 << what was this about? ( i have not read the mega-pile'o'shit ) -- iirc wright tried to 'borrow against' 'his' shitoshihoard ? |
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| 16:18 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-07 02:06:53 punkman: "Kleiman v. Wright update: We are incredibly gratified the jury found Craig Wright has to pay our client, W&K, $100,000,000 for the bitcoin-related assets he stole." |
| 16:18 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
| 16:18 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $51862.75 |
| 16:18 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
| 16:18 |
watchglass |
Polling 14 nodes... |
| 16:18 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.053s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=713061 |
| 16:18 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=713061 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 16:18 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.093s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=713061 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 16:18 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=713061 |
| 16:18 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.083s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=713061 |
| 16:18 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=713061 |
| 16:18 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.151s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=713061 |
| 16:18 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=713061 (Operator: whaack) |
| 16:18 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.305s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=713061 |
| 16:19 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.330s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=713061 |
| 16:19 |
watchglass |
94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.299s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712963 |
| 16:19 |
watchglass |
82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.388s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=712336 |
| 16:19 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.585s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=713061 |
| 16:19 |
watchglass |
75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.344s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=713061 |
| 16:20 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-06#1068864 << eats bw (and ties up the effectively single-threaded piece of shit, and in turn connections get dropped, thing gets 'behind', etc ) |
| 16:20 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-06 15:24:07 PeterL: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-06#1068835 << asciilifeform: maybe I am missing something, but shouldn't tip-of-chain blocks get thrown out pretty quick by just not having their preceding block, why is it so expensive to process them? |
| 16:25 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-06#1068878 << moore's 'colorforth' got there 1st. orig. thrd was specifically re: a lisp, tho. ( asciilifeform is fond of forth, but does not consider it a high level lang suitable for bootstrapping large systems ) |
| 16:25 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-06 21:31:21 verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-19#1036887 https://github.com/nineties/planckforth |
| 16:26 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-06#1068872 << if you wanna bake a patch for the logotron, go right ahead, i'ma read |
| 16:26 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-06 21:14:22 adlai: I'm uncertain whether there is any reasonable action item from that specific failure; that exact pattern is detectable by the log server, and all that remains is convincing myself that such automated detection-and-fixing is not unreasonable. |
| 16:29 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-12-06#1068889 << this needs moar context ( asciilifeform was not able to make sense of the thrd ) |
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| 16:29 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-06 21:49:27 verisimilitude: It uses the square root of the space of the former table solution. |