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02:58 feedbot http://mvdstandard.net/2020/11/ship-entering-bay-of-montevideo/ << The Montevideo Standard -- Ship Entering Bay Of Montevideo
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10:43 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
10:43 btcinfobot Current BTC price in USD: $19236.62
10:43 asciilifeform !w poll
10:43 watchglass Polling 16 nodes...
10:43 watchglass 71.114.46.209:8333 : (pool-71-114-46-209.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.129s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=658620 (Operator: asciilifeform)
10:43 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.090s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=658620
10:43 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.100s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=658620
10:43 watchglass 176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov)
10:43 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.098s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=658620
10:44 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.023s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=658193 (Operator: whaack)
10:44 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=658620 (Operator: asciilifeform)
10:44 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.153s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=658620
10:44 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.152s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=658620
10:44 watchglass 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.270s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=658620
10:44 watchglass 84.16.46.130:8333 : (182518.pk.3pp.slovanet.sk) Alive: (0.312s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=431540
10:44 watchglass 185.85.38.54:8333 : (tlapnet-38-54.cust.tlapnet.cz) Alive: (0.343s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=658620
10:44 watchglass 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.683s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=658620
10:44 watchglass 185.163.46.29:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
10:45 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 120 sec.)
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14:19 BingoBoingo Looks like growing pains of world realigning around reality of USSA being a third world shithole. The derpy changing Obama era messaging can't work in a Biden or Harris administration, and a second Trump administration can't do more than speed the painful path USSA is going to crash into on its way to just maybe becoming a normal country.
14:19 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i dun disagree -- but what prompted this observation ?
14:20 BingoBoingo Proximity to the last BTC all time high and the impotence of the USSA regime to really... do anything about it this time.
14:21 asciilifeform aa.
14:21 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
14:21 btcinfobot Current BTC price in USD: $19097.18
14:21 asciilifeform i fughet, what was the 2018 high... 20?
14:21 BingoBoingo Feels like fall 2012 except instead of the strength of Bitcoin driving the price movement, the increasingly obvious insolvency of the USSA is cratering the dollar.
14:21 BingoBoingo Right about 20
14:21 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: afaik the july $2T printolade dump is driving.
14:23 BingoBoingo It's not driving it alone though. The lack of other places to put it is driving after the color revolution started going through the clear motions this month.
14:24 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the naked-eye-visible btc-usd exch rate is a rather gnarly subj that i dun pretend to fully understand. historically, however, mostly driven by short-term speculator machinations.
14:24 snsabot Logged on 2020-05-05 19:56:14 asciilifeform: it worx because there's a neverending supply of a) dumb shits who see 'paper gold' as == to actual b) greedy shits who want 'leverage'
14:24 * BingoBoingo has spent the last few weeks doing some serious life cleaning and stumbling into a sort of masterclass in human psychology.
14:25 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you were iirc already a champ in 'clean', i admit have difficulty to picture what was left to clean..
14:29 BingoBoingo When the worlds as we new them ended in February and again in March... I really had to hit my head on some hard rocks. It turns out things that worked for me in the English language portion of my life never got imported to the Spanish language portion.
14:29 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: re trump -- fella had 4y to raise an army of blackshirts/brownshirts/freikorps, proclaim himself fuhrer, and 'drain swamp'. instead spammed on twatter etc. not much remaining to be said re subj imho.
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14:30 BingoBoingo Right, only difference in second term is he ought to know he's angry and his son in law is his enemy
14:30 BingoBoingo Should one happen
14:31 asciilifeform sure, but what diff if kermit the muppet is 'angry' vs 'not angry'. is character in tv.
14:32 asciilifeform the anger of old man only makes any diff if an army of younger ones are angry ~with him~
14:32 asciilifeform and coherently, like laser, not out of phase, like white light.
14:32 BingoBoingo Something in that vein does seem to be emerging, but I suspect it is made of rather soft stuff
14:34 * BingoBoingo between April and today has had a five figure number of conversations with strangers, mostly living in the zone.
14:34 * asciilifeform knew approx. how trump reign would go, because we had a very similar figure in orcistan
14:34 snsabot (trilema) 2016-10-16 asciilifeform: if the d00d weren't a zhirinovsky-style muppet, he'd be recruiting good old-fashioned brownshirts just about now.
14:36 asciilifeform w/ one minor difference, zhirinovsky was not given a chance to 'play president on tv', the ru equiv. post is an actual, rather than ritual, throne. but otherwise very similar.
14:37 BingoBoingo Grinding out conversations, a lot of trends were hard not to notice. Young black men who had ever had a taste of productive employment loved Trumpism if not Trump the man.
14:37 asciilifeform ( at this pt. even old mr. mold appears to grasp -- potus is a figurehead post )
14:38 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: in late '80s, orcs similarly luvved gorby
14:38 asciilifeform 'maybe, hoap! change!'
14:41 BingoBoingo What's unavoidable is that fact that in the official numbers China passed USSA in GDP adjusted for purchasing power parity around 2014. May have actually happened quite a bit earlier.
14:42 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: do you know what a low-pass filter is ?
14:43 asciilifeform (see e.g. this likbez.) asciilifeform has, so to speak, low-pass filter in his head. and from asciilifeform's pov, bush II is still on the throne.
14:44 asciilifeform i.e. usa politburo consists of ~same circle of folx as in that era. % of rubbish chinesium in erryday goods -- ~same. prices -- ~same, aside from real estate pyramid.
14:44 asciilifeform taxation -- similarly extortionate.
14:44 BingoBoingo Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, Obama were all rather clearly of CIA families.
14:45 asciilifeform see also.
14:45 snsabot Logged on 2020-01-27 20:03:02 asciilifeform: the folx who actually have an effect on 'what you see when looking out of your window' don't stand for elections.
14:45 BingoBoingo No substantial differences outside branding and which part of the dialectic they push
14:45 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: and the folx surrounding trump, and allowing him to 'play' -- same people.
14:45 asciilifeform and ultimately same 'picture when looking out of window'.
14:47 BingoBoingo What happens in December is entirely dependent on whether any of the gerontocrats on SCOTUS are willing to make principled stand and blow up a good chunk of regime, or if they are too concerned about their own homeostasis
14:48 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: last major 'look out of window' change in usa was when bush II switched usg-funded sector of economy to 'war footing', resurrecting 'gravy train' from 1980s for a select circle. prior to that -- when clinton destroyed the remnants of usa-based industry.
14:49 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the judges are running exactly same program as all other politburo members afaik.
14:49 snsabot Logged on 2020-10-29 11:45:39 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-10-29#1023733 << early orlov had a nifty piece re: how 'the permanent objective of usa's 1party state is the continuation of Business-As-Usual' .
14:49 BingoBoingo Looting is looting, eventually when a place gets looted on the Saint Louis level, even the bricks from the facade will get taken.
14:50 asciilifeform the designated looteries (i.e. where middle class lives) -- looted. the non-designated -- not to date touched afaik anywhere.
14:51 BingoBoingo Hard for me to agree with that considering the state of Argentina, California, Illinois, etc
14:51 asciilifeform all 3 seem to contain 'untouchable' guarded reservations where politburo & their flunkies live unmolested
14:52 BingoBoingo And the size and impenetrability of those refuges were materially degraded this year
14:53 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: plox to elaborate ? ( where, when -- if know )
14:55 BingoBoingo The comfortable playground that used to be the magnificent mile in Chicago, dead. California governor Newsom can't organize his "we aren't them so let us enjoy some of that normalcy we took from them" parties without exposure
14:57 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: interesting (aaand, would be interesting to read moar coverage of these on your www !)
14:57 BingoBoingo In Argentina Fernandez can't hide the fact that every Argentine with a vacation spot is Punta del Este has made their vacation spot their home.
14:57 thimbronion It's been hard to fathom why usg.blue is trashing their own strongholds.
14:58 asciilifeform thimbronion: reichstag fire, presumably
14:58 BingoBoingo Really I have been missing these sorts of conversations that put venom in Qntra, and I have been working to recreate that sort of environment irl to so far mixed yet promising results
14:59 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: most folx i try irl turn out to be repeaters for 'blue' (moar rarely -- 'red') fishwrap/tv pablum
15:01 asciilifeform ( the remainder -- carefully 'apolitical' e.g. maffs folx )
15:01 snsabot (trilema) 2019-09-11 asciilifeform: 'one day the king of all animals gathered his subjects in a forest clearing and said : 'today we shall anally punish those who have the smallest mouths. right, hedgehog?' 'Yaaaaa, Yaaaa!' said hedgehog. 'and tomorrow we shall anally chastise those who have the biggest mouths! 'hmm, hmm,' said hippo. ' )
15:02 * asciilifeform bbl, meat
15:08 * BingoBoingo has really just been filtering like hell early in the conversations that follow from setting up baits in addition to brute the brute force searches.
15:10 * BingoBoingo puts "get over the humiliation of the late Republic era" and start putting lessons and observations from the developing oral culture circle and scattered notes into blog/news material
15:10 BingoBoingo on the board
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15:25 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: will be very interesting to read these
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20:07 feedbot http://mvdstandard.net/2020/11/maradonas-heart-achieves-asystole-argentinas-last-icon-dead/ << The Montevideo Standard -- Maradona's Heart Achieves Asystole - Argentina's Last Icon Dead
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21:50 trinque hola BingoBoingo, what humiliation? anyone born in the west in the last 40yrs was born humiliated.
21:51 trinque imho the republican era did much more benefit than harm to my head, given I was 9/10ths of the way mad when I arrived.
21:51 trinque one oughtn't spend too much time on what might've been, indeed.
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