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16:47 BingoBoingo The chaos in the USSA lead to a rather lit stream last night
16:49 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'rodney king 2' ?
16:49 asciilifeform ( ..3? i lost count.. )
16:53 thimbronion shinohai: Cultural revolution 2
16:53 thimbronion eh, sorry not sure how shinohai got in there sorry.
17:01 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The number of folks with little to do and little to lose seems to be an aggravating factor. Very ethincally and racially mised crowd from reports I have been getting.
17:01 BingoBoingo Had to explain to the middle aged white portion of the audience the parallels to the Oregon occupation and other wypipo protests. Marching with guns doesn't mean shit if no one pulls the trigger.
17:02 asciilifeform cultural revolution << oblig :
17:02 asciilifeform 'Возле города Пекина / Ходят-бродят хунвейбины, / И старинные картины / Ищут-рыщут хунвейбины. / И не то чтоб хунвейбины / Любят статуи, картины — Вместо статуй будут урны / "Революции культурной".' (tm)(r)(vysotsky).
17:02 asciilifeform ~= 'All around Pekin / to-and-fro, roam the Hun Wei-bin, / In every cranny and nook / For antique statues, paintings they look / And it isn't that Hun Wei-bin love statues, paintings / Instead of statues there will be rubbish bins / of the "Cultural Revolution."'
17:03 BingoBoingo Some of the Brasileras that watch fpr English practice who had doubts about the extremes of US Urbanity were enlightened
17:04 BingoBoingo Seems the white house had an incredibly close call overnight
17:04 asciilifeform what's that look like ? icbm missed ?
17:04 BingoBoingo Fence came down, replaced with human fence
17:05 asciilifeform pity. would've been interesting to see whether the praetorians still have those suitcase uzis
17:06 BingoBoingo Right
17:06 asciilifeform ( in the soviet copy of this item, was even better mechanism, didn't req. opening suitcase -- trigger right in the handle )
17:07 BingoBoingo Nice
17:07 asciilifeform modern repro
~ 20 minutes ~
17:28 thimbronion So the narrative is now that, yes, white nationalists have infiltrated BLM and are causing all the violence.
17:28 thimbronion I assume it was also white nationalists attempting to overrun the whitehouse last night as well.
17:34 BingoBoingo Lol, I saw that noise
~ 1 hours 39 minutes ~
19:13 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i keep waitin' for that glorious day when they fukkuk and print 'nationalists' in 1 fishwrap and 'putler's stooges' in another
19:14 asciilifeform sorta like that beautiful moment when usg tv noose reported boston bomb before actually blew
19:17 BingoBoingo Or the dancing Israelis on that September morning in 2001
19:17 asciilifeform those -- old hat
19:17 asciilifeform ( there were plenty of dancers. i'dve danced but was busy, iirc had exam )
~ 16 minutes ~
19:34 BingoBoingo Well, other odd things there
19:35 BingoBoingo Still, curiously police seem ot only work in New York now
19:36 asciilifeform they work in washingtonistan also
19:36 asciilifeform and prolly errywhere else that aint designated kindling
19:50 thimbronion asciilifeform: how many sovereigns exist in your opinion?
19:54 thimbronion Perhaps it sounds naive, but recently I've found that thinking in terms of factions clears things up a little.
19:55 thimbronion Particularly when considering the seemingly contradictary actions of many states.
20:07 thimbronion I also always liked the rules the gods seem to follow in Ovid: Every god can do pretty much anything he/she wants *except* they can't undo what another god has already done.
20:19 asciilifeform thimbronion: tougher q than seems on surface. dunno if i'd ever undertake to guess.
20:19 thimbronion More than one?
20:20 asciilifeform at least 2
20:22 asciilifeform re 'gods cannot undo..' -- usg a++ undid results of 1945, in '89-93.
20:22 asciilifeform w/out even having to set up another 1941.
20:23 thimbronion I would say a faction tried to roll it back - but the result isn't even a shitty USSR.
20:24 asciilifeform the result (in eastern europistan in particular) is an even sadder shithole (which hardly anyone thought to be possible)
20:24 BingoBoingo I don't know that there are many strong soverigns in this dark age wrought by Scientist Religion
20:24 asciilifeform e.g. bulgaria went from exporter of agri-product to whole sovokistan, to... importer
20:25 asciilifeform (and , last i knew, busy trying to hammer ge-made reactor fuel rods into round holes )
20:26 asciilifeform gdr & the baltics, once 'si valley' of sovok, had ~whole economy evaporate
20:26 asciilifeform ( and , bonus, nao paying nato levies , 'smiling' )
20:26 asciilifeform could go on, but subj extensively covered elsewhere.
20:26 BingoBoingo Anyone interested in a bookstore? https://inmueble.mercadolibre.com.uy/MLU-471018248-excelente-punto-y-oportunidad-palacio-salvo-local-003-_JM
20:26 asciilifeform e.g. that same timisoara, loox like a classier detroit (albeit w/ moar polite orcs)
20:27 asciilifeform lol 1$ ? assume that's starting bid or wat
20:27 thimbronion BingoBoingo: I'll take it.
20:28 * BingoBoingo asked on the price. Actually doesn't have a firm price, claims worth 22,000 USD but seems motivated to sell
20:29 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: can't speak definitively re orclands, but in usa bookshop is famously 'for old man to go broke very slowly'
20:29 asciilifeform sorta like piz but w/out even sporting chance
20:29 thimbronion I'd turn it into the bookstore equivalent of a Vietnamese Coffee Shop.
20:30 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Indeed, but just boggling at what the valuation of very centrally located commercial realestate says about the rest of the pile's worth
20:30 * asciilifeform hung out in bookshops for many many yrs, knew several such 'maybe 1day profit!111' old folx
20:30 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the ad mentions rent
20:30 asciilifeform so no realestate incl.
20:30 asciilifeform unless i misread
20:30 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Nah, the actual bookshop is renting. This is for the space the bookshop lives
20:30 asciilifeform aa
20:32 BingoBoingo Ground floor of Palacio Salvo, right on Plaza Independencia...
20:32 asciilifeform does the thing have a garrett where could put bed ?
20:32 asciilifeform maybe worth just for that
20:32 BingoBoingo Has a mezzanine
20:32 thimbronion Great place for a last stand.
20:33 BingoBoingo 60m2 total. 45 on the ground, 15 on mezzanine
20:33 asciilifeform for 22k i'd buy a 4walls in a heartbeat. but as you know, over here that dun even buy a parking spot. (just barely buys plot in graveyard actually)
20:35 * BingoBoingo asking to see what the catch is.
20:36 asciilifeform most likely catch 'also plz buy my 6mo of debt'
20:37 BingoBoingo Possible he does owe back taxes or mountain of past due common expenses
20:37 asciilifeform call him up, wainot, find out
20:38 BingoBoingo Doing the email back and for dance digging for details
20:38 asciilifeform afaik plagueocalypse not punctured 1 single realestate bubble in north idiotistan -- but perhaps there's hoap down south
20:39 BingoBoingo Still waiting for pop in advertised prices, but seems to be accepted here that the tourism thing is gone for the forseeable future
20:39 asciilifeform afaik printer still 'go brrr' tho
20:39 asciilifeform so while that, bubble a-ok
~ 1 hours 35 minutes ~
22:15 thimbronion DC police seem to be doing pretty well
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