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09:26 thimbronion BingoBoingo: when you're looking for a particular Trilema piece, how do you find it?
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11:48 BingoBoingo thimbronion: Usually hitting google with: site:trilema.com what I am looking for
11:58 thimbronion BingoBoingo: same here.
11:58 BingoBoingo Which one are you looking for?
11:59 thimbronion None in particular at the moment. But I was thinking about the idea of creating a blog search bot that indexes Trilema and other ex-republican blogs.
11:59 thimbronion Since Google becomes more useless by the day.
12:03 BingoBoingo IIrc, it was a subject that come up occasionally in the former forum. "What would search engine look like
12:03 BingoBoingo ?"
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13:21 thimbronion I suspect search in the context of the WoT was also discussed.
13:22 thimbronion Heh indeed: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=search+wot
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14:16 BingoBoingo iirc, an idea floating about was pre-turd google style pagerank with trusted seeds
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14:48 thimbronion BingoBoingo: I'm not sure what you mean by seeds? Sites to start crawling from?
14:57 BingoBoingo Right
15:02 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: crawling per se always struck me as barbaric. i can see how it aint avoidable for rando www, but why not civilized folx put search mechanism on own www ?
15:03 asciilifeform people think 'search -- expensive' , but being crawled is 9000x moar expensive. esp. when it happens again, again, ..., again, 4evah, by 9000 bots..
15:04 asciilifeform and the orthogonal bonus of having search knob, is that you can see wtf folx are searching for. whereas if your only means of being searchable is getting crawled, then nope
15:05 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well, what happens when the problem isn't one particular site but several hosted on different machines
15:06 asciilifeform imho the correct way to implement search among folx who actually can agree on something, is standardized search knob, rather than crawl
15:08 thimbronion asciilifeform: do you think mp would incorporate such a knob?
15:09 asciilifeform thimbronion: i did say 'who can agree', neh
15:10 thimbronion asciilifeform: I suspect he would not. I do agree though that a knob would be idea.
15:10 asciilifeform there are prolly other people who don't want to be searchable.
15:10 thimbronion asciilifeform: but if I can't search early to mid english Trilema then I would be unsatisfied.
15:10 thimbronion *ideal.
15:11 asciilifeform thimbronion: back when i regularly searched it, simply maintained local copy
15:12 asciilifeform ( iirc is actually how he preferred it to be done. thing was wget'able even back when had the paywall thing, i can only assume deliberately )
15:12 thimbronion asciilifeform: I attempted to download the whole thing once but failed.
15:13 asciilifeform thimbronion: possibly since changed his config. i've nfi, it's been a while.
15:15 thimbronion asciilifeform: My script was perhaps weak/flawed, but I let it run for a *while* and don't think I made it through the romanian pieces.
15:15 thimbronion *Rumanian.
15:15 asciilifeform thimbronion: have you tried not leeching the photos ?
15:16 thimbronion asciilifeform: no
15:16 asciilifeform thimbronion: iirc he put in boobytraps coupla yrs ago to control bw hogs. but i'm not up to date on subj.
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