Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans


← 2013-11-19 | 2013-11-21 → ↓
00:00 bgupta is http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/ acting wonky for anyone else
00:00 bgupta ;;ticker
00:00 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 539.99998, Best ask: 540.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 539.99998, 24 hour volume: 89638.61323138, 24 hour low: 500.0, 24 hour high: 819.965, 24 hour vwap: 645.96744
00:01 dub yeah the socket adn api is still hosed
00:01 bgupta ahh... it's totally lagging and trades are from 22 mins ago
00:07 dub oh well this is good, we'll be down to double digits again
00:07 deadweasel fuckyea
00:10 dub [00:05] <MagicalTux> http://www.pubnub.com/console?sub=sub-c-50d56e1e-2fd9-11e3-a041-02ee2ddab7fe&pub=demo&channel=dbf1dee
00:10 dub 9-4f2e-4a08-8cb7-748919a71b21&origin=pubsub.pubnub.com <- the live feed is doing fine
00:10 dub shitpaste
00:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.452 BTC [-]
~ 18 minutes ~
00:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 11607 @ 0.00009469 = 1.0991 BTC [-]
00:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.15200001 BTC [-]
00:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.004001 = 0.2561 BTC [-]
00:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.03099999 = 0.248 BTC [-]
~ 24 minutes ~
01:18 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
01:18 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 527.0, Best ask: 528.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 527.0, 24 hour volume: 98572.30226817, 24 hour low: 475.1, 24 hour high: 819.965, 24 hour vwap: 625.0883
01:18 mircea_popescu ha.
01:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00083853 = 7.7983 BTC [-]
01:32 Namworld Falling down. Can't do otherwise after such a rapid and ridiculous rise.
01:32 Namworld Seems after correction, we'll still have made huge gains over 100USD/BTC
01:33 mircea_popescu we did fine. coulda been a lot worse.
01:33 mircea_popescu course, the azns don't have anyone keeping an eye on things and it shows. they got lucky this time.
01:34 mircea_popescu but they're only on wave two. who knows wtf they cook next time.
01:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [+]
01:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [+]
01:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.0602 = 0.903 BTC [+] {4}
01:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 159 @ 0.00188 = 0.2989 BTC [+]
01:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00083853 = 3.2703 BTC [-]
~ 24 minutes ~
02:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.484799 BTC [+]
02:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00429999 = 0.1075 BTC [-] {2}
02:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0043 = 0.215 BTC [+] {2}
~ 22 minutes ~
02:50 mircea_popescu davout check out new trilema paid content mechanism :D
03:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-]
03:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.004 = 0.2 BTC [-]
03:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11912 @ 0.00084053 = 10.0124 BTC [+]
~ 36 minutes ~
03:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.46 = 2.76 BTC [-]
03:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [-]
~ 28 minutes ~
04:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 438 @ 0.00084132 = 0.3685 BTC [+]
~ 17 minutes ~
04:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00410001 = 0.2829 BTC [+]
04:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 203 @ 0.0041028 = 0.8329 BTC [+] {2}
~ 17 minutes ~
04:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.00428 = 0.2525 BTC [-]
04:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0042999 = 0.129 BTC [+]
~ 30 minutes ~
05:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [-]
~ 32 minutes ~
06:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.48816361 = 5.3698 BTC [+] {5}
06:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.50479999 = 3.0288 BTC [+] {3}
06:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 134 @ 0.00429977 = 0.5762 BTC [+] {3}
06:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 94 @ 0.00432831 = 0.4069 BTC [+] {2}
06:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.00433997 = 0.3255 BTC [+]
06:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.033 = 0.165 BTC [-]
06:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.125 BTC [-]
06:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.0600103 = 0.24 BTC [-] {3}
06:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00084003 = 3.0241 BTC [-] {2}
07:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.18356049 = 0.5507 BTC [+]
~ 19 minutes ~
07:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00433 = 0.1949 BTC [-]
~ 17 minutes ~
07:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4529 @ 0.00084441 = 3.8243 BTC [+] {2}
07:39 deadweasel ;ticker
07:39 deadweasel ;;ticker
07:39 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 467.0, Best ask: 469.995, Bid-ask spread: 2.99500, Last trade: 470.0, 24 hour volume: 92855.34179932, 24 hour low: 453.29, 24 hour high: 748.0, 24 hour vwap: 581.30454
07:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.033 = 0.198 BTC [-]
07:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49999999 = 1 BTC [-]
07:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49999999 = 1 BTC [-]
07:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49999999 = 1 BTC [-]
07:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 128 @ 0.00104889 = 0.1343 BTC [+] {2}
07:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49999999 = 1 BTC [-]
08:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.55486000 BTC to 1`109`720 shares, 50 satoshi per share
08:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00410101 = 0.4306 BTC [-]
08:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.004101 = 0.1845 BTC [-]
08:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00439999 = 0.1452 BTC [+]
08:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.0045001 = 0.315 BTC [+]
08:32 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339617.msg3643164#msg3643164
08:32 ozbot Gambling script PM: beware
08:32 mircea_popescu this is pretty lulzy
08:39 dexX7 lol
08:39 dexX7 do you have the link to the file?
08:39 mircea_popescu i could ask the girl for it but i'd rather not spread the stuff.
08:39 mircea_popescu pm her on the forum asking.
08:40 dexX7 k
08:40 mircea_popescu also in the news :
08:40 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330633.0;all
08:41 ozbot Please remove Chaang Noi (Goat) or BadBear from default trust list
08:41 mircea_popescu theymos now adding known scammers to the default trust list.
08:42 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339849.0 moar coinbase scammery
08:42 ozbot COINBASE RIPPED ME OFF $50k. *WARNING WARNING WARNING*
08:42 mircea_popescu the forum is a riot.
08:43 mircea_popescu Ukto you seen https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337523.0;all ?
08:43 kleeck ^ That pisses me off a bit.
08:44 kleeck Having helped Ukto out, and knowing he is trying to return Bitcoin.
08:44 kleeck Or rather, he IS returning Bitcoin.
08:44 mircea_popescu how long ago did the thing close ? coupla weeks ? a month ?
08:44 kleeck It still isn't closed.
08:44 kleeck Bitfunder closes on Dec 4th, i think.
08:44 mircea_popescu yeah but i mean the announcement
08:45 kleeck The announcement was Nov 4th.
08:45 Ukto Iam trying to work on things.
08:45 kleeck There is no question that it's taking a long time, but that doesn't mean he is running with the money.
08:45 mircea_popescu teh ppl are getting antsy i guess.
08:45 Ukto sometime there are external forces that effect things
08:45 dexX7 such as?
08:46 mircea_popescu well, likely what happened is they wanted to sell
08:46 kleeck for sure.
08:46 mircea_popescu now that the price bottomed out they're pissy.
08:46 mircea_popescu typical commercial dispute.
08:46 mircea_popescu also in the news,
08:46 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/612/asianslave4sales-ipo/
08:46 ozbot BitBet - AsianSlave4sales IPO
08:47 kleeck wtf
08:47 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
08:47 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 529.79001, Best ask: 529.96165, Bid-ask spread: 0.17164, Last trade: 528.80179, 24 hour volume: 85103.40590359, 24 hour low: 453.29, 24 hour high: 748.0, 24 hour vwap: 576.02458
08:47 kleeck mircea_popescu, what is the story behind that one?
08:47 mircea_popescu jesus god the past coupla days i "lost" like a quarter billion dollars off my net worth!
08:48 kleeck :(
08:48 mircea_popescu woe is me!
08:48 kleeck hah
08:48 mircea_popescu i will never be able to care about losing anything ever again ;/
08:48 kleeck Should've sold!
08:49 mircea_popescu i sold a little.
08:49 mircea_popescu we all did. gotta bring things to sanity somehow.
08:51 dexX7 in the context that you called yourself "the real and only regulating force of bitcoin" (or so) this statement is actually somewhat scarry :p
08:52 mircea_popescu whyssat ?
08:53 thestringpuller actually I'd say the mining pool overseers have more regulatory power
08:53 thestringpuller they determine what code is actually enforced
08:54 mircea_popescu bitcoin is a fine balance of many things
08:54 mircea_popescu as it should be.
08:56 thestringpuller ideally the free market determines the overall regulatory force
08:56 thestringpuller but mircea_popescu has once said, "too soon to tell"
08:56 mircea_popescu it's never too soon to be scared tho :D
08:57 thestringpuller nigga I iz from detroit, I got real problems
08:57 thestringpuller (jk)
08:57 mircea_popescu how's detroit
08:58 thestringpuller Detroit is actually the best place to start a business for people like yourself tbh.
08:58 thestringpuller The governement's law enforcement has limited bounds due to the rampant criminal activity.
08:58 thestringpuller So it's like Anarchy there in some spots.
08:59 mircea_popescu i don't know the people, nor do i care to meet them.
08:59 thestringpuller buy an old house for like 10 g's
08:59 thestringpuller turn it into a fortress
08:59 thestringpuller make it a data center
09:00 thestringpuller you don't even wanna meet Eminem?
09:00 mircea_popescu eminem isn't even near the top of the list.
09:01 thestringpuller what rapper would you want to meet?
09:01 mircea_popescu any rapper that's a teenage girl with nice hooters and doesn't take her rapping self too seriously.
09:02 thestringpuller nikki minaj circa 2009
09:02 thestringpuller very controversial stance tho!
09:02 mircea_popescu i
09:02 mircea_popescu 'm not that fixated on the teenage part either.
09:03 mircea_popescu whose stance, her or mine ?
09:04 thestringpuller yours
09:04 mircea_popescu http://cdn.collarme.com/photos/1936083.jpg
09:04 mircea_popescu have a plushie.
09:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.4600016 = 4.6 BTC [-] {4}
09:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 128 @ 0.00410076 = 0.5249 BTC [-] {3}
09:04 thestringpuller that photo looks like it was taken when hugh hefner didn't have wrinkles...
09:05 mircea_popescu so like 2009.
09:06 thestringpuller lol
09:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.4535 = 2.721 BTC [-] {4}
09:06 thestringpuller so how goes the ludwig von mises reading?
09:06 thestringpuller you'd probably like murray rothbard too
09:06 mircea_popescu i managed to get about halfway his first chapter producing like 11 articles in the process
09:07 mircea_popescu in the end i will probably write a million words on that book
09:07 mircea_popescu if i ever manage to complete it
09:08 mircea_popescu ahaha reddit is so funny. so first,
09:08 mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1r1gu5/starbucks_to_make_announcement_regarding_bitcoin/
09:08 ozbot Starbucks to make announcement regarding Bitcoin by/around Thanksgiving : Bitcoin
09:08 mircea_popescu the bet is here : http://bitbet.us/bet/614/starbucks-to-announce-bitcoin-acceptance-on-thanksgiving/
09:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.4485 = 3.588 BTC [-] {4}
09:08 mircea_popescu 207 reddit comments = 0.002 btc zeroconf, or 2% of what bitbet puts in on the house.
09:09 thestringpuller wait they are using reddit to bet?
09:09 thestringpuller on this guise prediction?
09:09 mircea_popescu my guess would be this is accurate : every 100k reddit comments = 1 btc
09:09 ystarnaud reddit... lol
09:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.434 = 2.17 BTC [-] {3}
09:10 thestringpuller we should make a bitbet on it
09:10 mircea_popescu but at least they did figure out what to do and everything
09:10 mircea_popescu so props to them
09:11 mircea_popescu and since we're on the topic of bets :
09:11 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/567/simona-halep-to-win-roland-garros/
09:11 ozbot BitBet - Simona Halep to win Roland Garros
09:11 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/566/simona-halep-to-show-at-au-open/
09:11 ozbot BitBet - Simona Halep to show at AU Open
09:12 thestringpuller http://bitbet.us/bet/614/starbucks-to-announce-bitcoin-acceptance-on-thanksgiving/ - ahh there it is
09:12 mircea_popescu the odds on those should be pretty good seeing how i went deep on the yes side out of patriotism
09:12 thestringpuller so mircea_popescu would you say your weakness is a solid femme fatale?
09:12 thestringpuller film noir style
09:13 mircea_popescu nah. i get along great with those
09:14 thestringpuller mircea_popescu is brock samson
09:14 mircea_popescu the femme fatale is the weakness of sexually insecure, latently gay heroes as constructed for the sexualyl insecure, latently gay us public cca 1950
09:14 mircea_popescu fucking difficult to be threatened by one once you've had threesomes with her sister.
09:14 thestringpuller not if they trynna con you
09:15 mircea_popescu now why would they do that ?
09:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.42000002 = 0.84 BTC [-]
09:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.42000001 = 1.68 BTC [-] {3}
09:16 thestringpuller Who knows, maybe because you fucked their sister when you said you'd love only them forever and ever.
09:17 mircea_popescu i never say that.
09:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 33 @ 0.40138484 = 13.2457 BTC [-] {5}
09:18 thestringpuller i know, I was being sarcastic. I like your commentary on the insecure latently gay hero
09:18 thestringpuller reminds of Hitchcock's _Rope_
09:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.39883 = 3.9883 BTC [-] {4}
09:18 thestringpuller since many critics say the "heroes" of that movie were latently gay for one another
09:19 mircea_popescu i don't even remember if i saw that one
09:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 197 @ 0.00401556 = 0.7911 BTC [-] {6}
09:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.3637068 = 9.0927 BTC [-] {11}
09:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 613 @ 0.00372514 = 2.2835 BTC [-] {12}
09:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00083853 = 1.7609 BTC [-]
09:33 benkay ;;ticket --market all
09:33 gribble Error: "ticket" is not a valid command.
09:33 benkay ;;ticker --market all
09:33 gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 560.0, vol: 85614.29529543 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 499.999, vol: 65844.95948 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 573.0, vol: 14492.17096987 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 687.019368, vol: 93626.87100000 | Volume-weighted last average: 591.320264032
09:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.35122 = 3.5122 BTC [-] {3}
09:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 96 @ 0.00331465 = 0.3182 BTC [-] {7}
09:45 mircea_popescu ;;thicket
09:45 gribble Error: "thicket" is not a valid command.
09:48 benkay .bush
09:48 benkay ;;shrubbery
09:48 gribble Error: "shrubbery" is not a valid command.
09:50 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/the-reason-you-cant-have-nice-numbers-and-other-considerations/
09:50 ozbot The reason you can’t have nice numbers and other considerations. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Po
09:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 5010 @ 0.00105487 = 5.2849 BTC [+] {9}
09:51 mircea_popescu more stuff about the cardano. basically we're spending an inordinate ammount of time on the rng side of things.
09:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.13100005 = 0.262 BTC [-]
09:55 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: people spend billions of dollars on RNG for pure research, so I mean, is that really all that surprising?
09:55 mircea_popescu nope.
09:55 mircea_popescu it's where crypto implementations live or die.
09:55 thestringpuller yup
09:56 thestringpuller http://www.arc.gatech.edu/ - did work with them, they get couple hundred mil each year just for crypto stuff
09:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1010 @ 0.0019098 = 1.9289 BTC [+] {6}
09:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00199999 = 0.18 BTC [+]
10:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 176 @ 0.00334203 = 0.5882 BTC [+] {3}
10:02 benkay http://www.flickr.com/photos/cellularsolutionsneltd/with/4595275722
10:02 ozbot Flickr: Cellular Solutions NE Ltd's Photostream
10:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.39999999 = 0.8 BTC [+]
10:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 752 @ 0.0038 = 2.8576 BTC [+]
10:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.39999999 = 0.8 BTC [+]
10:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 986 @ 0.00199999 = 1.972 BTC [+] {4}
10:14 thestringpuller http://www.buzzfeed.com/mariahsummers/the-16-most-important-bitcoinaires fucking Winklevii
10:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.37001 = 1.48 BTC [-]
10:18 mircea_popescu "here's a list of 16 entities that'd love to be important in bitcoin"
10:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.03110666 = 0.1555 BTC [-] {3}
10:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.0033 = 0.1518 BTC [-]
10:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 83 @ 0.00320638 = 0.2661 BTC [-] {4}
10:33 nubbins` morning, fellow adventurers
10:39 mircea_popescu http://blogsofwar.com/2013/11/11/interview-hacker-opsec-with-the-grugq/
10:39 mircea_popescu not so bad.
10:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.35796363 = 3.9376 BTC [-] {4}
10:41 mircea_popescu mostly for the The hackers are hopelessly outclassed at this game. Hell, the majority of them don’t even know that they’re playing!
10:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.37 = 1.11 BTC [+]
~ 15 minutes ~
10:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3709 @ 0.00084517 = 3.1347 BTC [+]
11:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.15200001 BTC [-]
11:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3875 BTC [+]
11:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 101 @ 0.00341 = 0.3444 BTC [+] {2}
11:07 nubbins` Expecting the tools to provide security for you is like buying a set of weights and then sitting around waiting for your fitness to improve.
11:07 nubbins` hear,, hear!
11:07 mircea_popescu or like getting a coupla bombshells to follow you around and expecting this'll make you seem all cool and shit.
11:08 mircea_popescu o, wait...
11:09 thestringpuller ...
11:09 kleeck Wow.
11:09 thestringpuller i think bombshells following you is a clear indication you are as cool as Bender Rodriguez
11:09 kleeck ANyone following this Havelock IPO?
11:09 kleeck I know ThickAsThieves is.
11:09 ThickAsThieves i follow all things
11:10 mircea_popescu ;;google Bender Rodriguez
11:10 gribble Bender (Futurama) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bender_(Futurama)>; Bender Bending Rodríguez - Futurama Wiki, the Futurama database: <http://futurama.wikia.com/wiki/Bender_Bending_Rodr%C3%ADguez>; Bender Bending Rodriguez - The Infosphere, the Futurama Wiki: <http://theinfosphere.org/Bender_Bending_Rodriguez>
11:10 kleeck What do you think?
11:10 mircea_popescu thestringpuller is the guy i learn names from.
11:10 kleeck The price just seems completely outrageous.
11:10 mircea_popescu kleeck everyone imagines they're worth like, a shitton.
11:10 kleeck I know! I'm worth at least 20 Billion!
11:11 kleeck The defense is that "we don't measure BTC in FIAT" which I get, sure - but that is one way to quantify value against a fluctuating Bitcoin.
11:11 ThickAsThieves I think they have not appropriately valuated or structured their offering, all factors considered.
11:11 kleeck I agree.
11:12 mircea_popescu well... experience helps with that.
11:12 mircea_popescu and that helps with experience.
11:13 ThickAsThieves I also think disregarding fiat-influence is one of the core areas of ignorance for harming investors
11:13 asciilifeform http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Security_Issue/en
11:14 ThickAsThieves this is finance after all, how can you not factor translated values
11:14 mircea_popescu it's a complicated problem.
11:15 mircea_popescu whoa
11:15 mircea_popescu they lost the payment details and everything else ?
11:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.0037 = 0.3145 BTC [+]
11:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.389 BTC [+]
11:15 asciilifeform better. joker patched sshd
11:16 asciilifeform http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/15/stealthy_linux_backdoor/
11:17 asciilifeform (in RAM.)
11:18 mircea_popescu this is some prime rib right here.
11:18 asciilifeform http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/linux-back-door-uses-covert-communication-protocol
11:18 ozbot Linux Back Door Uses Covert Communication Protocol | Symantec Connect Community
11:18 asciilifeform i'd say the newsmen are hyping up the novelty a bit
11:18 asciilifeform people have been doing this kind of thing for ages.
11:19 mircea_popescu notto hetzner.
11:19 asciilifeform once the chump is rooted, you can do a million different things.
11:19 asciilifeform difference with 'cloud hosting' is that it's more like bird hunting than deer
11:20 asciilifeform one shot, many carcasses.
11:25 pascal2571 [WTS] 3537 ADDICTION direct shares - Message me with your offer
11:26 mircea_popescu pascal2571 you know gribble has a market thing ?
11:26 asciilifeform gotta love how hetzner advices gdb attach for the 'amirooted?' test
11:26 asciilifeform as if joker can't patch gdb
11:26 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you download a fresh copy
11:26 mircea_popescu from hetzner.
11:27 pascal2571 I did not know that
11:27 mircea_popescu let's see here
11:27 mircea_popescu ;;buy 1 pascal2571
11:27 gribble (buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, (1 more message)
11:27 mircea_popescu http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php
11:27 mircea_popescu it logs everything there, and it's accessible anywhere gribble goes.
11:31 altoz ;;asks 0
11:31 gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 0.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
11:31 altoz ;;asks 99999999
11:31 gribble There are currently 29698.058 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 148418672.73 USD in total. | Data vintage: 4.9472 seconds
11:31 altoz ;;bids 0
11:31 gribble There are currently 16365090 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 27068826.9028 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.4697 seconds
11:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 163 @ 0.0010559 = 0.1721 BTC [-]
11:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00199999 = 0.2 BTC [+]
11:34 asciilifeform download a fresh copy, right. patched on the fly. ken thompson.
11:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 128 @ 0.00104611 = 0.1339 BTC [-] {2}
11:34 mircea_popescu my sarcasm!
11:35 asciilifeform gonna be fun when people actually start to give a damn about pubkey distribution.
11:35 asciilifeform wonder how much executable code going cleartext over the wire gets to the other end unmolested.
11:36 mircea_popescu but code wants to be molested.
11:36 mircea_popescu tits want to be free
11:36 asciilifeform i won't be surprised to live to see billboards and newspaper ads with rsa pubkeys.
11:36 asciilifeform 'diddle this.'
11:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 110 @ 0.0010461 = 0.1151 BTC [-] {3}
11:37 mircea_popescu i was actually thinking, a pretty decent way to run an underground site would be, have everyone register their ip to a pubkey
11:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 112 @ 0.00104604 = 0.1172 BTC [-] {4}
11:38 mircea_popescu then add a layer to turn the html into crypted text to keys by ips
11:38 mircea_popescu spooks can spook it till they get bored.
11:38 asciilifeform makes repudiation a bit hard. and most lusers have dynamic ip.
11:38 mircea_popescu no, makes repudiation very easy
11:39 mircea_popescu "so your honor, he claims the site send him this html, to his own key ? well... how can we verify this has anything to do with anything besides his overactive imagination ?"
11:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 289 @ 0.00104601 = 0.3023 BTC [-] {3}
11:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1540 @ 0.001046 = 1.6108 BTC [-] {2}
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11:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]
11:59 altoz ;; asks
11:59 gribble (asks [--over] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoins for sale at or under <pricetarget>. If '--over' option is given, find coins or at or over <pricetarget>.
11:59 altoz ;; asks 9999999
11:59 gribble There are currently 29747.899 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999.0 USD, worth 100746835.565 USD in total. | Data vintage: 106.4467 seconds
11:59 altoz ;;bids 0
11:59 gribble There are currently 16367028 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 27433795.2254 USD in total. | Data vintage: 113.4125 seconds
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 30840 @ 0.0005 = 15.42 BTC {9}
12:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 31076 @ 0.0005 = 15.538 BTC {18}
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 27057 @ 0.0005 = 13.5285 BTC {11}
12:04 mircea_popescu Is it customary for a multi-million dollar registered business to withhold information such as the names of its owners/directors? Can we at least get a link to your Facebook page or YouTube account?
12:04 mircea_popescu The only info provided is a phone number resolving in Minnesota, USA. Is this also typical for Panamanian corporations?
12:04 mircea_popescu dude crumbs is a heavy hitter in the forum nao ?
12:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 7280 @ 0.0005 = 3.64 BTC {12}
12:04 nubbins` heh
12:05 nubbins` "it's the internet, names are for meatspace!"
12:05 mircea_popescu herp.
12:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4062 @ 0.0005 = 2.031 BTC {8}
12:06 pascal2571 I'm wondering how they came up with an evaluation of 10k BTC
12:06 pankkake weird, it's not selling out in 5 mins!
12:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3673 @ 0.0005 = 1.8365 BTC {7}
12:06 mircea_popescu wasn't it 100k ?
12:06 mircea_popescu it was 20% for 5k neh ?
12:07 pascal2571 ah right, I multiplied by the "discounted" share price
12:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 164 @ 0.00105592 = 0.1732 BTC [+] {4}
12:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3010 @ 0.0005 = 1.505 BTC {4}
12:07 nubbins` oh, that's today, isn't it?
12:07 mircea_popescu discounted share price ?!
12:07 pankkake I thought the « half price » woudl attrack more. some sort of black friday nonsense
12:07 pankkake attract
12:07 pankkake it's half price, must buy!
12:08 mircea_popescu jesus the glbse idiocy just won't die already.
12:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 140 @ 0.00105599 = 0.1478 BTC [+] {3}
12:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3300 @ 0.0005 = 1.65 BTC {5}
12:08 nubbins` part of me suspects this is going towards covering costs from the havelock mining fund
12:08 mircea_popescu i have never seen nonsense so resilient as the stuff nefario pioneered.
12:08 nubbins` which can't be making money
12:09 mircea_popescu why would you need to cover costs ? it's a fund. you report the loss.
12:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 303 @ 0.0005 = 0.1515 BTC {4}
12:10 topace nubbins`: this has 0 to do with the mining fund
12:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 12410 @ 0.0005 = 6.205 BTC {5}
12:10 topace ZERO
12:10 topace mining fund operates completely independently
12:10 nubbins` yipes! good morning 8)
12:10 topace and generated over $60,000 equivalent in fiat last month
12:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 14245 @ 0.0005 = 7.1225 BTC {8}
12:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00084587 = 15.2257 BTC [+] {3}
12:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
12:11 pascal2571 folks are actually buying that crap
12:11 mircea_popescu topace what's the hash behind it atm ?
12:12 topace just under 3TH
12:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 11361 @ 0.0005 = 5.6805 BTC {6}
12:12 mircea_popescu what was that command again
12:13 mircea_popescu ;;genrate 2950
12:13 gribble The expected generation output, at 2950.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 609482679.888, is 0.00243415321292 BTC per day and 0.000101423050538 BTC per hour.
12:13 mircea_popescu ;;genrate 2950000
12:13 gribble The expected generation output, at 2950000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 609482679.888, is 2.43415321292 BTC per day and 0.101423050538 BTC per hour.
12:14 nubbins` what's today's fiat equivalent of the money you paid for the hardware?
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1640 @ 0.0005 = 0.82 BTC {3}
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
12:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30723 @ 0.00084722 = 26.0291 BTC [+] {3}
12:14 topace doesnt matter, the fund didnt pay for the equipment until it was physically delivered and mining
12:14 mircea_popescu o i remember this thing, it was originally waiting for deliveries for a while.
12:15 mircea_popescu that was a better than average move.
12:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19277 @ 0.0008501 = 16.3874 BTC [+] {2}
12:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 997 @ 0.0005 = 0.4985 BTC {4}
12:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 30002 @ 0.0005 = 15.001 BTC {2}
12:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5186 @ 0.0005 = 2.593 BTC {3}
12:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1746 @ 0.0005 = 0.873 BTC {4}
12:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1016 @ 0.0005 = 0.508 BTC {3}
12:19 topace considering the mining fund started with an initial investment of less than $10,000 in fiat, and is now at 3TH with no further outside investment, i think its doing pretty well
12:20 mircea_popescu this fiat approach is tricky.
12:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 30124 @ 0.0005 = 15.062 BTC {5}
12:21 nubbins` nod
12:21 topace would the pre-order investors been better off buying bitcoins instead of buying pre-orders for the mining fund? definitely.
12:21 mircea_popescu well then.
12:21 kakobrekla fiat is shit. buy a volkswagen.
12:22 topace but the pre-order investors existed so the fund didnt have to spend bitcoins until mining equipment arrived
12:22 topace so for hte fund, it was a definite win
12:23 mircea_popescu just for kako : http://www.pedalpumpinggirls.com/vw_beetle_bug_girl_cranking_pedal_pumping_003.jpg
12:23 nubbins` how about for the investors? ;)
12:23 topace by "the fund" i mena "the funds investors"
12:23 kakobrekla pedal pumping girls lolwtf
12:23 nubbins` now i'm just teasing
12:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1868 @ 0.00007503 = 0.1402 BTC [-]
12:23 kakobrekla also, i accept.
12:23 nubbins` but i'd be more interested in the BTC-denominated revenue and initial investment than the fiat equivalents
12:24 topace nubbins`: its all in the financial statements
12:24 topace available to the public
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4014 @ 0.0005 = 2.007 BTC {6}
12:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2008 @ 0.0005 = 1.004 BTC {3}
12:25 mircea_popescu and i guess one for thestringpuller too : http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2012-01-08/1325903458564.jpg
12:25 mircea_popescu detroit now has a beach.
12:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 13248 @ 0.0005 = 6.624 BTC {6}
12:26 Rawted anyone need a btc-e code? looking for paypal, and for some reason im not receiving the withdraw notices from btc-e and my ticket has been unanswered for 11 days.
12:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4025 @ 0.0005 = 2.0125 BTC {2}
12:27 mircea_popescu well the price has been moving so...
12:29 nubbins` topace: for mining equipment listed under assets, does the value for each quarter correspond to the resale value, purchase price, or..?
12:29 Rawted yeah, i hear you. been fighting this battle with them for months
12:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 20000 @ 0.0005 = 10 BTC
12:29 topace resale value
12:30 topace or, for most of the fpga's trade-in value
12:30 nubbins` ok, was just wondering how you arrived at 20 btc for AM blades
12:30 topace the computers/gpu's were essentially depreciated to 0
12:30 mircea_popescu how do you calculate market value for mining gear anyway /
12:30 mircea_popescu there isn't much of a 2ndary market gouing or is there ?
12:31 nubbins` mircea_popescu: multiply by 0
12:31 nubbins` topace: i dunno, maybe i'm looking at this wrong, but i just see a fund steadily hemorrhaging money
12:31 topace nubbins`: what quarterly report you lookin at?
12:31 nubbins` Q2 2013
12:31 nubbins` most recent one available
12:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 9045 @ 0.0005 = 4.5225 BTC {4}
12:32 mircea_popescu q3 ended neh ?
12:32 nubbins` https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reportdownload.php?id=11
12:32 nubbins` mp, yes
12:32 nubbins` almost 2 months ago
12:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10007 @ 0.0005 = 5.0035 BTC {2}
12:32 mircea_popescu with the diff going the way it's been, any miner out there has been bleeding money.
12:32 mircea_popescu course that's mostly since august or so.
12:33 topace q3 is being worked on and should be up by the end of the week
12:33 topace we've been rather busy the past few months
12:33 jefito mircea_popescu
12:33 nubbins` well yes, hence my assertation that HMF can't be making money
12:33 jcpham ;;ident
12:33 gribble You are identified as user jcpham, with GPG key id C71FB5ED6ACE04AF, key fingerprint F7299BD73879E866613EAB24C71FB5ED6ACE04AF, and bitcoin address 15MDLP4wazp4TP2Josmk1WiZRU5LhFvBCn
12:33 mircea_popescu jcpham what, you're thje one miner hitting the green ?
12:33 jcpham am i going to get that 30 btc rota pay next month
12:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1153 @ 0.0005 = 0.5765 BTC {4}
12:33 jcpham i need to know now
12:33 topace nubbins`: the 20btc was based on resale value/exchange rate at the time
12:33 jcpham I'm trying to make some decisions
12:34 nubbins` fiat value aside, i see 1200 BTC lost in 6 months
12:34 jcpham we can discuss privately
12:34 jcpham but i forgot and now remembered
12:34 mircea_popescu jcpham i ain't making any forward looking statements.
12:34 topace not lost, spent growing the fund (And paying dividends)
12:34 jcpham understood
12:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2219 @ 0.0005 = 1.1095 BTC {6}
12:34 mircea_popescu mostly to mess with you.
12:34 jcpham i'm going to take that as a no for now so i can do what i need to do
12:35 jcpham no this is fine
12:35 jcpham miners bleeding for sure
12:35 topace nubbins`: we have 3TH of equipment, fully paid off, and 0 debts
12:35 mircea_popescu so what's the resale value of 3th atm ?
12:36 mircea_popescu i presume mostly asics ? friedcat's or what ?
12:36 topace BFL
12:36 topace mostly
12:36 topace and KNC
12:36 jcpham 3th isn't much
12:36 mircea_popescu jcpham well it makes 50-60 btc a month even now.
12:36 pascal2571 1st Q 12 Volume ~ ฿180,000
12:36 pascal2571 whats that 12 supposed to mean?
12:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 64341 @ 0.0005 = 32.1705 BTC {2}
12:36 mircea_popescu 2012 i imagine
12:37 mircea_popescu what's 3th, something like 2.5kwh ?
12:37 pascal2571 that would mean havelock had 180kBTC in volume in 1st Q 2012?
12:37 jcpham wow it does generate that much
12:37 nubbins` topace: 1600 BTC and 0 TH/s < 400 BTC and 3 TH/s?
12:37 topace pascal2571: thats in the HIF prospectus? i think thats the estimation for 2014
12:37 nubbins` i know which one i'd pick
12:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 44740 @ 0.0005 = 22.37 BTC {4}
12:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.0008404 = 2.9834 BTC [-]
12:37 topace i think that 12 is wrong, it should be 2014
12:38 mircea_popescu you have a 180k estimate for 2014 ?!
12:38 pascal2571 wow
12:38 pascal2571 nono
12:38 topace _STOP_
12:38 pascal2571 just for Q1
12:38 topace dont confuse the mining fund
12:38 mircea_popescu that's the funniest thing i heard all day, by 2014 volumes in 10s of btcs will be something to write home about
12:38 topace with the havelock exchange
12:38 nubbins` hahaha
12:38 topace HIF != HMF
12:38 mircea_popescu even now 90%+ of the coinbase is hauled up in matresses.
12:38 nubbins` yes, we're discussing how HMF lost 1200 BTC but gained a 3 TH/s farm
12:39 nubbins` not what HIF is up to ;)
12:39 topace pascal2571 is talking HIF
12:39 mircea_popescu o i c.
12:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1751 @ 0.0005 = 0.8755 BTC {2}
12:39 mircea_popescu not that it makes any diff. 180k isn't happening in 2014. i'd rather believe $1mn bitcoins.
12:41 topace thats tradinv volume estiamte
12:41 topace not profit estiamte
12:41 ThickAsThieves its not possible
12:41 mircea_popescu i didn't think it was a profit estimate, no 0.0
12:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 580 @ 0.0005 = 0.29 BTC {3}
12:42 jcpham has ukyo flwon the coup
12:42 ThickAsThieves youre talking about a major increase in the amount of coins people are investing and trading in this market
12:42 mircea_popescu jcpham naw we were chatting earlier.
12:42 ThickAsThieves this would require oceans of new coins to be poured into upcoming offerings
12:43 topace yes
12:43 nubbins` ThickAsThieves: 8x current quarterly vol
12:43 topace we're currently doing ~2000BTC/7d, which is ~24000 BTC/quarter
12:43 topace and thats with the current, stagnant funds
12:43 topace 50+ funds are in the pipeline
12:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2018 @ 0.0005 = 1.009 BTC {2}
12:43 topace and more contacting us every day
12:44 topace whether the MARKET can handle that is another story
12:44 ThickAsThieves what about investors?
12:44 nubbins` lel
12:44 mircea_popescu you're looking at the wrong end basically.
12:44 topace but there's demand out there for the listings
12:44 ThickAsThieves where do all the new coins come from
12:44 nubbins` whether the market can handle it is, in fact, the same story
12:44 topace i agree, we'll need to see a large influx of new investors
12:44 mircea_popescu nah, fluency is a major problem in bitcoin, and will aggravate. in 2012 about 50% of coins mined were in circulation.
12:44 mircea_popescu today maybe 10% are in circulation.
12:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC
12:45 mircea_popescu by next year 1% is quite on the table.
12:45 ThickAsThieves so your volume isnt likely to increase 8x in the face of deflation
12:45 mircea_popescu this isn't even deflation, it's a scourge yet unnamed.
12:46 mircea_popescu defluence.
12:46 ThickAsThieves you cant have tons of new investor coins, without tons of new uptake
12:46 mircea_popescu whatever.
12:46 ThickAsThieves the math aint gon jive
12:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2520 @ 0.00008199 = 0.2066 BTC [+] {2}
12:47 asciilifeform re: the folks sitting on heaps of obsolete fpga: why hasn't even one started an altcoin with a diddled workfunction
12:47 asciilifeform and raked in the cash
12:47 topace all im saying is that, 180,000 volume i dont think is out of the ballpark, if we're currently doing 24000 volume with stagnant funds and having put all new listings on hold for 2+ months.
12:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 50211 @ 0.0005 = 25.1055 BTC {3}
12:48 mircea_popescu asciilifeform they suck up a lot of electricity, and the altcoins have a pretty soiled rep.
12:48 mircea_popescu topace you're talking as if funds are chinese food.
12:48 nubbins` well, i don't think 8x volume is gonna come out of the woodwork just because there's a glut of questionable funds tossed into the sidebar
12:48 ThickAsThieves topace we know what youre saying, but there remains a gap
12:48 nubbins` it's not like these coins are out there sitting around waiting for a bad investment opportunity
12:48 asciilifeform trick is to devise an alt where the ideal miner is actually a full fpga.
12:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 52293 @ 0.0005 = 26.1465 BTC {5}
12:49 asciilifeform e.g. turingcoin
12:49 mircea_popescu quoth very frustrated bitbet mod : "i will not be the least bit surprised if i find the motherfucking penis length and girth of all players in this pile of non-stats befoar i find which freaking games they won."
12:49 topace 180,000 isnt _new coins_ coming in, its trading volume
12:49 topace you could do 180,000 volume on just a few thousand coins in a month
12:49 nubbins` you could do it on one coin, sure
12:49 ThickAsThieves hehe\
12:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform might be an idea, maybe.
12:49 topace hehe
12:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2960 @ 0.0005 = 1.48 BTC
12:50 nubbins` just like all the notes you need for any bob dylan song are all on a single guitar string
12:50 ThickAsThieves obv you need new money for new volume, cmon
12:50 nubbins` and yet you still see people playing with 6!
12:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i've no incentive to do this, but the folks presently stoking their furnaces with old fpgas - do.
12:50 topace ThickAsThieves: yes definitely need new money. but not the volume estimate equivalent
12:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4416 @ 0.00007502 = 0.3313 BTC [-] {3}
12:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 30001 @ 0.0005 = 15.0005 BTC {2}
12:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform your question just got answered ?
12:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10520 @ 0.0005 = 5.26 BTC {4}
12:52 nubbins` i'd say the average per-person trade volume decreases steadily as the value of btc rises
12:52 mircea_popescu nubbins` doing it on one coin didn't work out for burnside too well.
12:52 nubbins` it sounds like a major uphill battle to increase trade volume
12:52 nubbins` mircea_popescu: leel
12:52 nubbins` he's not thinking of closing up shop, is he? ;D
12:52 pankkake asciilifeform: I think no one would buy this coin, so no economic incentive. altcoins work because 15 year old gamers can mine them in their moms basements
12:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 242 @ 0.0035082 = 0.849 BTC [-] {7}
12:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 257 @ 0.00104684 = 0.269 BTC [-] {5}
12:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1094 @ 0.0005 = 0.547 BTC {3}
12:53 asciilifeform pankkake: the basic idea of altcoin isn't stupid; only the idea of 'btc with serial num filed off' is.
12:53 nubbins` pankkake: i thought altcoins worked because there's no second-hand market for fried GPUs and you can't very well just let them sit around unused
12:53 asciilifeform an alt could conceivably provide added value, in the form of resistance to well-funded jokers baking silicon at economies of scale.
12:54 mircea_popescu pankkake an altcoin would work well if it satisfied 3 conditions : 1. very respectable core dev team ; 2. very clear even if minor improvements over bitcoin ; 3. lattice-based or otherwise complex algo not easy to asic.
12:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 542 @ 0.00104598 = 0.5669 BTC [-] {4}
12:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]
12:54 pankkake by altcoin I meant bitcoin fork with meaningless tweaks
12:54 mircea_popescu nubbins` you got something there. gotta burn that electricity!
12:54 pankkake well non-asic it stupid
12:54 asciilifeform 4. (crackpot) could be wangled into carrying out useful computation (e.g. cryptoanalysis)
12:54 nubbins` mircea_popescu: well, mom's used to paying the bill by this point, right?
12:54 mircea_popescu cartman's mom ?
12:55 mircea_popescu she ENJOYS paying the bill.
12:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3050 @ 0.0005 = 1.525 BTC {3}
12:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]
12:55 nubbins` heh
12:55 nubbins` well, being used to something and enjoying it aren't always the same thing
12:56 asciilifeform i'll toss this in for anyone who didn't get a chance to laugh at it last time: picture an altcoin where the workfunction is a blank field in the protocol.
12:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1200 @ 0.0005 = 0.6 BTC {3}
12:56 nubbins` anyway, if you could sell GPUs that have been burned out from mining for a reasonable price, you wouldn't see any of them mining altcoins
12:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you'd need a blockchain for workfunctions.
12:56 asciilifeform sure.
12:57 asciilifeform basically, an 'altcoin in a can' construction set.
12:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 501 @ 0.0005 = 0.2505 BTC {2}
12:57 mircea_popescu because not enough parents have stepped on disjointed metal parts enough yet.
12:58 mircea_popescu must make more construction sets.
12:58 mircea_popescu imperatively.
12:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1950 @ 0.0005 = 0.975 BTC {4}
12:58 pascal2571 anyone interested in a bet that havelock will close down after collecting the funds of the IPO?
12:58 mircea_popescu eh get out, what funds.
12:58 nubbins` heh
12:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10214 @ 0.0005 = 5.107 BTC {3}
13:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10603 @ 0.0005 = 5.3015 BTC {4}
13:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1500 @ 0.0005 = 0.75 BTC
13:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1095 @ 0.0005 = 0.5475 BTC {4}
13:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.126 = 0.378 BTC [+]
13:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10244 @ 0.0005 = 5.122 BTC {3}
13:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1021 @ 0.0005 = 0.5105 BTC {2}
13:06 pascal2571 I'm wondering, when will the trading on HIF begin? after the first IPO block or once the whole IPO finishes?
13:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.39266666 = 11.78 BTC [+] {3}
13:07 nubbins` guessing after the whole thing
13:07 mircea_popescu o, you can't trade it atm ?
13:07 nubbins` only buy ipo
13:08 topace nubbins`: probably after the first block, but i'll confirm that for you
13:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 12068 @ 0.0005 = 6.034 BTC {3}
13:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 8 @ 0.126 = 1.008 BTC [+]
13:08 nubbins` oh, even better
13:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 805 @ 0.00187912 = 1.5127 BTC [-] {4}
13:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 419 @ 0.0005 = 0.2095 BTC {2}
13:11 pascal2571 and what happens if they don't sell their crap within 30 days?
13:11 mircea_popescu why so aggro anyway
13:12 Rawted tradefortress has everyone worked up
13:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 11004 @ 0.0005 = 5.502 BTC {3}
13:12 pascal2571 I'm not a fan of these totally made-up evaluations
13:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5000 @ 0.0005 = 2.5 BTC {2}
13:13 nubbins` lel, samsung owes apple $1b fine, starts delivering it to apple hq in dump trucks full of nickels
13:14 Rawted nubbins - story is fake, and 2 years old
13:14 mircea_popescu ^
13:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2850 @ 0.0005 = 1.425 BTC {2}
13:14 mircea_popescu pascal2571 i guess people don't trust in the market's pricing abilities.
13:15 mircea_popescu most everyone i talk to wants to go in a la hruschev, shoe on table, "this is how much the shares go for"
13:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1475 @ 0.0005 = 0.7375 BTC
13:15 kakobrekla playground market surley doesnt know how to price things.
13:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2014 @ 0.0005 = 1.007 BTC {2}
13:16 nubbins` Rawted: :(
13:17 nubbins` shoulda known better, here in canada at least there are strict laws around how much you can pay w/ coins
13:17 mircea_popescu you know, i took about 8 lbs of various coins to the bank, fully expecting them to bitch
13:18 mircea_popescu they didn't bitch, they took them in!
13:18 kakobrekla its what they do you know.
13:18 mircea_popescu not in the states.
13:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10500 @ 0.0005 = 5.25 BTC {2}
13:18 kakobrekla thats normal here.
13:18 nubbins` the bank doesn't get to be so picky
13:18 asciilifeform many u.s. banks now have coin machines with a funnel
13:18 mircea_popescu well it was pleasant so.
13:18 asciilifeform takes a bucket at a time.
13:18 nubbins` businesses are a different story
13:19 nubbins` you can legally refuse any amount of pennies over a few bucks
13:19 nubbins` varies from coin to coin
13:19 kakobrekla even the small local offices have those here.
13:19 kakobrekla those machines.
13:19 Rawted yeah, i bank with Chase, and they have the coin machines in every branch. no charge, works great. dump and wait.
13:19 nubbins` even i think $1 coins top out at around $40
13:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC
13:19 kakobrekla thats only new to romania :p
13:19 nubbins` i paid my house insurance with $5 bills a few months ago
13:19 mircea_popescu it's only new to me!
13:19 nubbins` felt GREAT
13:19 mircea_popescu i normally don't pick up the coins
13:20 asciilifeform phun phact: i used one of these machines, and it jammed. bank grunt went in with a putty knife, opened cabinet to reveal... mountain of dirt and leaked coins.
13:20 mircea_popescu lmao
13:20 kakobrekla loool
13:20 mircea_popescu twist : the machines are operated by the bonanos
13:20 mircea_popescu same crews that do vegas.
13:21 nubbins` aha, here we go:
13:21 nubbins` http://imgur.com/2xP1UTY
13:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 12000 @ 0.0005 = 6 BTC {2}
13:21 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
13:21 nubbins` $1,100 insurance bill paid in fives
13:21 nubbins` (they didn't have a money counting machine)
13:22 mircea_popescu jesus what the fuck is insurance like over there.
13:22 nubbins` well that's for a year
13:22 mircea_popescu they introduced a mandatory ~15 dollars/year here a few years back and people werer about to riot.
13:23 nubbins` we're talking home insurance?
13:23 mircea_popescu yes.
13:23 nubbins` like insurance on your house and its contents?
13:23 nubbins` for $15 a year.
13:23 mircea_popescu not the contents.
13:23 mircea_popescu just the house.
13:23 nubbins` still
13:23 nubbins` what's a house cost
13:23 mircea_popescu ikr?
13:23 nubbins` $1000?
13:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.033 = 0.198 BTC [+]
13:23 mircea_popescu depends. 20-40k for the average stuff.
13:23 nubbins` ahhhhh
13:23 mircea_popescu but people expect the govt to rebuild their house or give them a new one in case of natural disasters
13:24 nubbins` oic
13:24 asciilifeform woah
13:24 nubbins` houses downtown here are $200k+
13:24 mircea_popescu which includes shit like, gas leak explosion cause old alzheimer sufferer that didn't get taken to a home and lived alone forgot the stove on
13:24 asciilifeform even in the 'land of the phreee' we don't have this weird expectation
13:24 mircea_popescu (this happened recently, and the city got stuck with placing the people somewhere)
13:24 nubbins` and they're all row houses, so fire is a very, very serious threat
13:24 mircea_popescu there's never been a fire here. most everything is concrete prefab
13:24 mircea_popescu i couldn't start a fire if i wanted to.
13:24 nubbins` mostly wood here
13:25 nubbins` my house is over 80 years old
13:25 nubbins` people didn't have the luxury of concrete homes here 80 years ago
13:25 asciilifeform american houses burn like matches.
13:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah. a major turnoff for me
13:25 nubbins` asciilifeform: newer houses everywhere burn like matches
13:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0005 = 0.5 BTC
13:25 nubbins` all the synthetics
13:25 mircea_popescu all that crap plastic and cvasi wood board.
13:25 nubbins` yeah
13:26 mircea_popescu houses here mostly consist of concrete foundation + brick (or cellular concrete)
13:26 mircea_popescu however you call it
13:26 nubbins` ah
13:26 mircea_popescu Autoclaved aerated concrete
13:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1020 @ 0.0005 = 0.51 BTC {2}
13:26 nubbins` mostly plywood/OSB here with pine studs and concrete foundation
13:26 kakobrekla its where the third piggy lives.
13:27 nubbins` most of downtown was rebuilt after 1892 anyway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stjohns_afterthefire1892.jpg
13:27 asciilifeform fourth piggy lives in a bunker with EMP shield.
13:27 kakobrekla :D
13:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1504 @ 0.0005 = 0.752 BTC {3}
13:27 mircea_popescu actually the soviet style fully concrete stuff is great for in case of nuclear bombing
13:28 mircea_popescu you'll die like half hour later.
13:28 kakobrekla cause of rebars?
13:28 pascal2571 I can't believe they already sold 50% of the first block
13:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.00341 = 0.3001 BTC [-]
13:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC
13:28 mircea_popescu i guess there'd be a little gamma from the rebars, but really, they insulate quite well.
13:28 nubbins` i lived in a very soviet-esque apartment block in 2nd best korea
13:29 nubbins` new cracks in the walls every time there was a minor quake
13:29 mircea_popescu yeah. i live in a part of romania where there never was a quake.
13:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5038 @ 0.0005 = 2.519 BTC {4}
13:29 mircea_popescu bucharest and generally the SE however... ouch.
13:29 nubbins` bad stuff, glad we have virtually no natural disasters here
13:30 mircea_popescu was one so bad in the 70s about a fifth of the capital died.
13:30 nubbins` occasional tail-end of a hurricane
13:30 asciilifeform dc earthquake: http://cafewitteveen.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/neverforget.jpg
13:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform o wow, bumped their chair!
13:30 mircea_popescu that's evil.
13:31 asciilifeform phun phact: i was in an office tower, walked to the stairway and squeezed through a crowd of idiots waiting for... elevator.
13:31 asciilifeform the same people who routinely step into an empty elevator shaft during real quakes.
13:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10097 @ 0.0005 = 5.0485 BTC {2}
13:31 mircea_popescu aw
13:32 asciilifeform splat.
13:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 157 @ 0.001879 = 0.295 BTC [-]
13:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 56218 @ 0.0005 = 28.109 BTC
13:33 nubbins` oh hey, we pumped out a book last night
13:33 nubbins` 5 hours from handwritten notes to first copy printed and bound
13:33 mircea_popescu the blockchain is now > 16gb,
13:33 mircea_popescu larger than many usb sticks out there.
13:34 ThickAsThieves just zip it
13:34 nubbins` http://imgur.com/a/jAOly
13:34 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
13:34 nubbins` 40 pages, nice quick read
13:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10222 @ 0.0005 = 5.111 BTC {2}
13:35 mircea_popescu one of those "very clear even if minor improvements over bitcoin " could well be devising a method so only a rolling window of the blockchain needs to be maintained.
13:35 nubbins` ^
13:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.37181817 = 4.09 BTC [-] {5}
13:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 587 @ 0.0005 = 0.2935 BTC
13:35 ThickAsThieves just save it in pieces
13:35 mircea_popescu allow expanding of blocks to arbitrary size, keep only most recent X blocks, suddenly you can compete with visa.
13:36 ThickAsThieves so no one person has the whole thing
13:36 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves this isn't rapunzel, this is snowwhite.
13:36 mircea_popescu you're thinking of the wrong princess.
13:36 nubbins` no one person has the whole thing == torrent w/o seeders
13:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10010 @ 0.0005 = 5.005 BTC {2}
13:36 mircea_popescu exactly.
13:37 ThickAsThieves just let me keep a backup of it
13:37 ThickAsThieves s'all good
13:37 mircea_popescu that you can do, of course
13:37 mircea_popescu but you don't NEED it is all.
13:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 79383 @ 0.0005 = 39.6915 BTC {3}
13:38 ThickAsThieves looks like HIF will sell that first round
13:38 mircea_popescu was no pre-announcement or why the dribble aproach ?
13:38 ThickAsThieves they announced yesterday
13:38 ThickAsThieves surprise!
13:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3001 @ 0.0005 = 1.5005 BTC
13:39 mircea_popescu !t h hif
13:39 assbot [HAVELOCK:HIF] 1D: 0.00050000 / 0.0005 / 0.00050000 (853234 shares, 426.61700000 BTC), 7D: 0.00050000 / 0.0005 / 0.00050000 (853234 shares, 426.61700000 BTC), 30D: 0.00050000 / 0.0005 / 0.00050000 (853234 shares, 426.61700000 BTC)
13:40 ThickAsThieves $260k
13:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2279 @ 0.0005 = 1.1395 BTC {5}
13:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 228 @ 0.001879 = 0.4284 BTC [-]
13:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 394 @ 0.0005 = 0.197 BTC
13:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 11155 @ 0.0005 = 5.5775 BTC {2}
13:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 894 @ 0.0005 = 0.447 BTC {2}
13:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 33000 @ 0.0005 = 16.5 BTC {3}
13:45 topace i can confirm that trading will only open AFTER the last block (or the offering is cancelled)
13:45 nubbins` fun!
13:46 pascal2571 that makes it even more interested
13:46 nubbins` nod
13:46 ThickAsThieves sorry flippers!
13:46 nubbins` interesting, even
13:47 nubbins` topace: are the blocks being released back-to-back?
13:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1777 @ 0.0005 = 0.8885 BTC
13:48 pascal2571 interesting of course
13:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 250 @ 0.0005 = 0.125 BTC {2}
13:49 nubbins` man, my sourdough starter is still alive. this is one resilient yeast colony
13:49 nubbins` literally went a full month without feeding it
13:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 262 @ 0.0005 = 0.131 BTC {2}
13:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 630 @ 0.0005 = 0.315 BTC {4}
13:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform hey, what ever happened to that guy working on the magical badvirus thingee ?
13:52 mircea_popescu i think my wafflemaker is trying to infect my fridge with these patterns right here.
13:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0005 = 0.5 BTC
13:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: perhaps the lsd wore off.
13:53 mircea_popescu poor guy.
13:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10125 @ 0.0005 = 5.0625 BTC {3}
13:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 999 @ 0.00194837 = 1.9464 BTC [+] {5}
13:54 asciilifeform http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/11/researcher-skepticism-grows-over-badbios-malware-claims/
13:54 ozbot Researcher skepticism grows over badBIOS malware claims | Ars Technica
13:54 mircea_popescu im telling you, these waffles are proof in the pudding.
13:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2180 @ 0.0005 = 1.09 BTC {2}
13:55 asciilifeform anyone considering infecting bios should focus on: video cards.
13:55 asciilifeform unlike system bios, no signature nonsense of any kind; and only two major vendors.
13:55 mircea_popescu whjat the fuck is with the skull
13:55 mircea_popescu jesus is there no sane trade rag left already ?!
13:55 mircea_popescu what are these people, 12 ?
13:55 asciilifeform bonus points for anyone who manages to pawn the diddled gpu cards to miners.
13:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4139 @ 0.0005 = 2.0695 BTC {6}
13:57 asciilifeform 'as the toys are, thus also are the players.'
13:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1460 @ 0.0005 = 0.73 BTC {6}
13:57 mircea_popescu that poor guy, going through gigs of pm logs
13:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 401 @ 0.0005 = 0.2005 BTC {3}
13:58 nubbins` wait, LSD wears off?
13:58 nubbins` oh god, bbl calling ambulance
14:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39999999 BTC [+]
14:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 660 @ 0.0005 = 0.33 BTC
14:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4000 @ 0.0005 = 2 BTC
14:04 pascal2571 [WTS] 3537 ADDICTION direct shares - Message me with your offer
14:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 325 @ 0.0005 = 0.1625 BTC
14:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1595 @ 0.0005 = 0.7975 BTC {3}
14:06 Ukto jcpham: i am here.
14:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 740 @ 0.0005 = 0.37 BTC {2}
14:11 pascal2571 Ukto: you're making progress with withdrawals? what date are we at right now?
14:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 990 @ 0.0005 = 0.495 BTC {3}
14:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3999 @ 0.0005 = 1.9995 BTC
14:13 jcpham hi ukto
14:14 jcpham you didn't scam did you
14:14 jcpham ;P
14:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.0330125 = 0.2641 BTC [+] {2}
14:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4000 @ 0.0005 = 2 BTC
14:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 11340 @ 0.0005 = 5.67 BTC
14:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2000 @ 0.0005 = 1 BTC
14:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC
14:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7500 @ 0.00008199 = 0.6149 BTC [+] {2}
14:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC
14:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 400 @ 0.0005 = 0.2 BTC
14:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 21545 @ 0.0005 = 10.7725 BTC
14:37 pankkake https://xkcd.com/1293/ now that's an amazing company
14:37 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
14:37 ozbot xkcd: Job Interview
14:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00104501 = 1.045 BTC [-] {2}
14:39 kakobrekla http://bou.si/4c/1384952934718.png
14:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3000 @ 0.0005 = 1.5 BTC
14:40 Namworld Who's buying HIF an an implied 50'000 BTC valuation? Not like Havelock has anything to show for such a high valuation.
14:41 Namworld Topace, why is it so pricey?
14:41 pascal2571 99% are hoping to flip on the discounted value
14:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 842 @ 0.00104501 = 0.8799 BTC [-]
14:42 pankkake dolphins
14:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.39999996 = 0.8 BTC [-] {2}
14:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 19025 @ 0.000075 = 1.4269 BTC [-] {4}
14:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10600 @ 0.0005 = 5.3 BTC {2}
14:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5040 @ 0.0005 = 2.52 BTC {3}
14:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 250 @ 0.0005 = 0.125 BTC
14:50 TomServo http://www.aurichlawson.com/ Looks possible.
14:50 ozbot Aurich Lawson | Design + Interactive
14:50 TomServo Whups, that was in response to MP's "Are these people 12?"
14:52 mircea_popescu lol
14:53 mircea_popescu pankkake thanks for that, i sent it along to pr. expect to see it on forum a lot.
14:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 206 @ 0.0005 = 0.103 BTC {2}
14:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 35102 @ 0.0005 = 17.551 BTC
15:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.39995 = 0.7999 BTC [-]
15:11 dub mircea_popescu: just reading that routejacking is on the up recently
15:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10100 @ 0.0005 = 5.05 BTC {2}
15:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.032475 = 0.6495 BTC [-] {4}
15:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1294 @ 0.0005 = 0.647 BTC
15:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 102 @ 0.00328769 = 0.3353 BTC [-] {5}
15:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 232 @ 0.00104501 = 0.2424 BTC [-]
15:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 8585 @ 0.0005 = 4.2925 BTC {2}
15:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 355 @ 0.00175101 = 0.6216 BTC [-] {3}
15:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 250 @ 0.0005 = 0.125 BTC
15:24 mircea_popescu dub aha
15:26 dub not that it poses much risk to mpex
15:28 mircea_popescu yeah, wasn't ever a question of that.
15:28 dub stands to reason bad guys would be trying it on btc services
15:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2150 @ 0.0005 = 1.075 BTC {2}
15:29 mircea_popescu if not right now, then a little later.
15:29 dub NSA have QUANTUM, why can't erryone else play too?
15:29 mircea_popescu dub quantum fannies.
15:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 960 @ 0.0005 = 0.48 BTC {2}
15:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00175101 = 0.3502 BTC [-]
15:30 dub superposition of the cock
15:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1035 @ 0.0005 = 0.5175 BTC {2}
15:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.39999999 = 0.8 BTC [+]
15:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 7407 @ 0.0005 = 3.7035 BTC {2}
15:35 thestringpuller why don't mo niggas use elliptic c curve cryptographyy?
15:36 mircea_popescu because they're paraplegic.
15:36 thestringpuller good answer
15:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC
15:36 pankkake I like my encryptions curvy
15:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 427 @ 0.0005 = 0.2135 BTC
15:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2443 @ 0.0005 = 1.2215 BTC {3}
15:40 dub pankkake hashes BBW
15:42 deadweasel quick question, if details about the implemention are logged publicly here, about cardano s.nsa, won't that make it less secure?
15:42 mircea_popescu deadweasel how would it ?
15:43 deadweasel alass, I have only questions, as usual.
15:43 deadweasel alas*
15:43 pankkake security by obscurity doesn't work for long
15:43 mircea_popescu well, think about it. in principle anyone can buy one
15:43 mircea_popescu and take it apart.
15:43 mircea_popescu what's a secret implementation going to do ?
15:43 asciilifeform further: would you really buy it if any of the design details were secret?
15:44 mircea_popescu i am guessing he would :D
15:44 asciilifeform aficionados of mystery meat should buy crypto hardware from classic nsa.
15:45 deadweasel i don't think I would think about it that much.. which is why I don't need one quite yet. ;)
15:45 thestringpuller hmm i couldn't find a havelock bet so I made onee
15:45 deadweasel gotta fix my personal security habits before cardono is at all useful.
15:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10067 @ 0.0005 = 5.0335 BTC {2}
15:45 deadweasel thestringpuller: link?
15:46 thestringpuller i'm on slow internet my page is still submitting the form
15:47 jurov o,where is cardano documented?
15:47 jurov i mean, implementation details
15:47 deadweasel -assets logs
15:47 deadweasel didn't know if implementation was secret, or needed to be.
15:48 jurov i only see a discussion that rng may be sealed.. nothing more concrete
15:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 372 @ 0.0005 = 0.186 BTC
15:49 mircea_popescu jurov it wasn't ever very detailed.
15:49 deadweasel me either, just verifying details wouldn't give away some kind of attack vector. but I don't know about these things.
15:49 asciilifeform jurov: unlike, say, the 'IBM 4764' mysterymeatbag, physical tamper resistance is explicitly not a goal.
15:49 mircea_popescu deadweasel actually it's probably going to be useful in the sense that it makes it easy to learn i think
15:49 deadweasel it's why I invest it others to do it for me :)
15:51 pankkake the fact that the rng board is separate is interesting… perhaps we'll see more products based on it? :)
15:51 mircea_popescu and more rng board types.
15:51 pankkake sexy. I just want random data feeds, I don't have much use for the cardano!
15:52 asciilifeform board was build separately mainly for testing. final product may include embedded rng, but certainly with an external override.
15:52 mircea_popescu but yeah the idea is to keep modularity. we want to be able to reuse as much as possible of trhe shiot we make in other things down the road.
15:52 jurov would be cool if it can be pried off and connected to rpi gpio pins or such
15:53 deadweasel selling a standalone usb rng would be a little too niche to market, i guess?
15:53 asciilifeform current design draft has a toggle that converts the unit into a pure rng
15:53 pankkake these guys did it http://www.entropykey.co.uk/
15:53 asciilifeform (appears as 'usb serial' device.)
15:53 deadweasel oh wow. I had no idea. that's the fucking tits.
15:54 deadweasel nice job guys :D
15:55 mircea_popescu as it works with bitbet, i am here to receive all praise please. if anything breaks or malfunctions then talk to asciilifeform
15:56 deadweasel so, business as usual?
15:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1712 @ 0.00084001 = 1.4381 BTC [-] {2}
15:56 mircea_popescu division of labour is what made america great!
15:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 659 @ 0.0005 = 0.3295 BTC
15:57 deadweasel also, semi-retarded and unable to fend for ourselves..
16:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 4.52100600 BTC to 358`810 shares, 1260 satoshi per share
16:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [+]
16:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 30000 @ 0.0005 = 15 BTC
16:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4000 @ 0.0005 = 2 BTC
16:05 thestringpuller http://bitbet.us/propositions/ - the first one if accepted
16:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0005 = 0.5 BTC
16:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 17.64732447 BTC to 13`311 shares, 132577 satoshi per share
16:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 955 @ 0.00104501 = 0.998 BTC [-]
16:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.37600001 = 0.752 BTC [-]
16:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1012 @ 0.0005 = 0.506 BTC {2}
16:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 45 @ 0.37564444 = 16.904 BTC [-] {6}
16:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4000 @ 0.0005 = 2 BTC
16:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 710 @ 0.0005 = 0.355 BTC {2}
16:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.375 = 7.5 BTC [-]
16:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3009 @ 0.0005 = 1.5045 BTC
16:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 511 @ 0.0005 = 0.2555 BTC {3}
16:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 165 @ 0.36322473 = 59.9321 BTC [-] {6}
16:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 259 @ 0.00307651 = 0.7968 BTC [-] {7}
16:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 9489 @ 0.0005 = 4.7445 BTC
16:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0005 = 0.5 BTC
16:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 189 @ 0.0031 = 0.5859 BTC [+]
16:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.36090909 = 3.97 BTC [-] {2}
16:32 mircea_popescu Arnold Schwarzenegger agreed to appear in a mega-budget historical adventure called Crusades for Mario Kassar's company Carolco Pictures. When the projected budget went past $200 million, financing collapsed, despite pre-production expenditure of $20 million. Instead of collecting his “play-or-pay” $15 million, Schwarzenegger asked for all rights to the script in the hope that one day he could get it made.
16:33 mircea_popescu possibly the worst call in history.
16:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1700 @ 0.0005 = 0.85 BTC
16:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.34813762 = 2.7851 BTC [-] {5}
16:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.33 = 1.65 BTC [-]
16:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1040 @ 0.0005 = 0.52 BTC {2}
16:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.003001 = 0.1531 BTC [-]
16:34 jurov mircea_popescu: withdrawals pls :)
16:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3298 BTC [-]
16:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 6260 @ 0.0005 = 3.13 BTC
16:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5000 @ 0.0005 = 2.5 BTC
16:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.311 = 0.622 BTC [-] {2}
16:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00300001 = 0.12 BTC [-] {2}
16:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3598 @ 0.0005 = 1.799 BTC
16:45 mircea_popescu flushed.
16:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 303 @ 0.00300001 = 0.909 BTC [-]
16:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3001 BTC [-]
16:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.30000033 = 0.9 BTC [-] {3}
16:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 400 @ 0.0005 = 0.2 BTC
16:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00300066 = 0.9002 BTC [+] {7}
16:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.29284 = 4.3926 BTC [-] {3}
16:51 thestringpuller hmm
16:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1475 @ 0.0005 = 0.7375 BTC {2}
16:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.29000666 = 1.74 BTC [-] {2}
16:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 350 @ 0.001045 = 0.3658 BTC [-]
16:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 36 @ 0.28791943 = 10.3651 BTC [-] {4}
16:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 903 @ 0.0005 = 0.4515 BTC {3}
16:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.275 BTC [-]
16:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 21300 @ 0.0005 = 10.65 BTC {2}
16:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.25010777 = 2.251 BTC [-] {2}
16:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.25003333 = 0.7501 BTC [-] {2}
16:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2000 @ 0.0005 = 1 BTC
16:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 124 @ 0.00275 = 0.341 BTC [-] {2}
16:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 109 @ 0.001752 = 0.191 BTC [+]
17:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 146 @ 0.00276712 = 0.404 BTC [+] {4}
17:02 thestringpuller !last havelock am1
17:02 assbot Last trade for AM1 on HAVELOCK was at 0.25003333 BTC [-]
17:02 thestringpuller !ticker havelock am1
17:02 assbot [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.25000000 / 0.37415694 / 0.52889999 (576 shares, 215.51439967 BTC), 7D: 0.25000000 / 0.46830041 / 0.64190000 (2029 shares, 950.18152791 BTC), 30D: 0.25000000 / 0.62384256 / 1.06000000 (6576 shares, 4102.38865801 BTC)
17:03 thestringpuller ;;calc (0.52 - 0.25) / 0.52
17:03 gribble 0.519230769231
17:03 thestringpuller ...
17:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 855 @ 0.0005 = 0.4275 BTC {2}
17:05 mircea_popescu what exactl;y were you expecting ?
17:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 6000 @ 0.0005 = 3 BTC
17:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 798 @ 0.0005 = 0.399 BTC {2}
17:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 287 @ 0.00270009 = 0.7749 BTC [-] {6}
17:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 193 @ 0.0027 = 0.5211 BTC [-]
17:11 Urushiol HIF is going fast.
17:12 Urushiol I haven't had any chance to run the numbers yet. I assume, knowing TAT, that they look good? Anyone run them yet?
17:12 mircea_popescu notrly.
17:12 mircea_popescu see teh log, it's been discussed to death
17:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2149 @ 0.0027 = 5.8023 BTC [-]
17:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.24042857 = 1.683 BTC [-] {2}
17:18 Urushiol so I read the log. and no, it hasn't really been discussed to death. at least not in the log buffer I have back 3 hours ago.
17:18 mircea_popescu Urushiol http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-11-2013#385440
17:19 Urushiol thanks
17:19 mircea_popescu if np stands for no problem, the mp stands for my pleasure ?
17:20 nubbins` :D
17:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1006 @ 0.0005 = 0.503 BTC {2}
17:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.258 BTC [+]
17:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.23533333 = 0.706 BTC [-] {2}
17:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.25245 = 1.0098 BTC [+] {2}
17:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2565 = 0.513 BTC [+] {2}
17:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.272495 = 0.545 BTC [+] {2}
17:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4602 @ 0.00007449 = 0.3428 BTC [-] {8}
17:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3395 BTC [+]
17:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3395 BTC [+]
17:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00339 = 0.1356 BTC [+] {2}
17:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0034 = 0.17 BTC [+]
17:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
17:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.165 = 0.825 BTC [+]
17:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.36491666 = 2.1895 BTC [+] {4}
17:41 mircea_popescu kakobrekla check this out, it's teh butthurt parade : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg3656725#msg3656725
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 600 @ 0.0005 = 0.3 BTC
17:42 mircea_popescu the guy actually went to the trouble to get yet another sock out of noob jail because one more sock, one more vote, and this works in bitcoin.
17:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 600 @ 0.0005 = 0.3 BTC
17:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.0031 = 0.62 BTC [-]
17:44 nubbins` "i just tweeted about it"
17:44 nubbins` STOP EVERYTHING
17:45 mircea_popescu lol
17:45 mircea_popescu as if there ever existed a twitterho that'd have eschewed linking their 50 follower twitter account to that announcement.
17:45 pankkake http://www.dailydot.com/politics/jerry-moran-bitcoin-reddit-senate-panel/
17:45 ozbot The Daily Dot - Before Bitcoin panel, senator crashes Reddit for advice
17:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0005 = 0.5 BTC
17:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.36 = 0.72 BTC [-]
17:46 mircea_popescu Before Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.) addressed his colleagues about Bitcoin Tuesday, he did what any person in power who's a little confused about a complicated should do.
17:46 mircea_popescu He went to the experts. Specifically, he went to Reddit's r/Bitcoin to ask them what the fuss was about.
17:46 mircea_popescu ahahahaha
17:46 mircea_popescu o.m.f.g.
17:46 pankkake this is gold
17:46 mircea_popescu this is like... almost better than bitcointalk
17:46 mircea_popescu Those redditors, as redditors are wont to do, offered a mixed bag of responses. Some were flippant, some mistook him for Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.),
17:46 mircea_popescu totally. they're the experts.
17:47 nubbins` couple of morans
17:47 nubbins` http://moranswithsigns.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/moran-sign.jpg
17:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1435 @ 0.001045 = 1.4996 BTC [-]
17:53 thestringpuller lol what would you expect from reddit?
17:54 mircea_popescu well thedailydork brought the lulz.
17:56 kakobrekla mircea_popescu comments spam here we come.
17:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 10359 @ 0.0005 = 5.1795 BTC
17:57 mircea_popescu kakobrekla let the kids have fun lol.
17:57 mircea_popescu comedy fucking gold.
17:57 kakobrekla i hate kids. and i had fun once. it was awful.
17:58 mircea_popescu lol
17:59 truffles kako gettng a vasectomy
17:59 truffles ?
17:59 kakobrekla those are not allowed here if you dont have 1 kid or smth
17:59 truffles unlucky
18:00 truffles there is a shot u can take that lasts 10yrs fyi
18:01 pankkake who cums in a vagina anyways
18:01 mircea_popescu i do.
18:01 truffles 0.0
18:01 thestringpuller lol are we on a long tangent about kids because reddit has kids?
18:02 truffles why is there laughs about the senator asking ppl stuff, maybe he couldnt find real experts..
18:02 thestringpuller or reddit is composed of kids?
18:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1200 @ 0.00175047 = 2.1006 BTC [-] {3}
18:02 mircea_popescu thestringpuller no, some muppet tried to hax bitbet, failed, lost some btc
18:02 mircea_popescu as a result he came here to bitch, bored people to death
18:02 mircea_popescu as a result went to bitcointalk to complain there, mpoe-pr was mean to him
18:03 mircea_popescu so now he's organising a boycott and spamming bitbet comments.
18:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4000 @ 0.0005 = 2 BTC
18:03 deadweasel hey, free advertising!
18:03 thestringpuller oh fun?
18:03 thestringpuller mircea_popescu:
18:03 thestringpuller i forgot to send in wager on my bet
18:03 mircea_popescu it was kinda lulzy atm
18:03 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/147/mtgox-out-of-business-by-end-of-year/#c1805
18:03 ozbot BitBet - MtGox out of business by end of year
18:03 thestringpuller can I just remake and resend with wager?
18:04 kakobrekla oh shit this is good mp, i irlold
18:04 mircea_popescu i am behind seven lols!
18:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1198 @ 0.001752 = 2.0989 BTC [+] {2}
18:05 kakobrekla fuck the whole thread is golden
18:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.126 BTC [+]
18:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 346 @ 0.0005 = 0.173 BTC
18:10 mircea_popescu it is.
18:10 kakobrekla oh my
18:10 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg3657060#msg3657060
18:10 ozbot Terrible Experience with Bets of Bitcoin / Bitbet
18:10 kakobrekla deadweasel how dare you win
18:10 thestringpuller ;;seen benkay
18:10 gribble benkay was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 8 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <benkay> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cellularsolutionsneltd/with/4595275722
18:10 thestringpuller ;;seen smickles
18:10 gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 6 days, 5 hours, and 24 seconds ago: <smickles> $avg
18:12 deadweasel couldn't help myself! he's so deluded still. hope it doesn't break his head.
18:12 deadweasel was gonna tell him mpoe-pr would host his boycott page, but can't speak for the girl.
18:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 725 @ 0.0005 = 0.3625 BTC
18:13 mircea_popescu i dunno if she has any hosting available.
18:14 kakobrekla ah well, slanderous souls are still not allowed to post so what choice do i have
18:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.35843999 = 1.7922 BTC [-] {3}
18:14 deadweasel live vicariously through us, until you free, kakobrekla
18:14 mircea_popescu kakobrekla you're missing out on so very much not being able to personally argue with idiots...
18:15 kakobrekla isnt that what keeps the price up?
18:15 mircea_popescu i tell you, i die a little inside each day because i don't post on reddit, retardstalk, thedailydork, theverge etc
18:15 mircea_popescu kakobrekla I would suggest finding out the details of who owns Bitbet and threatening a suit if they don't return the BTC.
18:15 mircea_popescu i hope you're done wearing tshirts
18:15 mircea_popescu it's all suits for you from here on.
18:15 kakobrekla uhh
18:15 pankkake where's the guy with his bitbet competitor?
18:16 nubbins` hahaha
18:16 pankkake with no fees, he was just going to make money from shorting bbet IIRC
18:16 mircea_popescu pankkake he's working night shifts
18:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 7599 @ 0.0005 = 3.7995 BTC {2}
18:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 212 @ 0.00318018 = 0.6742 BTC [-] {4}
18:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2000 @ 0.0005 = 1 BTC
18:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2017 @ 0.0005 = 1.0085 BTC {4}
18:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 101 @ 0.0031 = 0.3131 BTC [-] {2}
18:23 mircea_popescu kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg3657192#msg3657192
18:23 mircea_popescu it's not over even
18:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.38504175 = 6.5457 BTC [+] {7}
18:24 kakobrekla lmao, dont mention the wrong tld to him.
18:24 pankkake > Taking into consideration that the site is a .com it falls under US law
18:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00339997 = 0.357 BTC [+] {2}
18:24 pankkake so many lawyers fond of bitcoin in here
18:24 kakobrekla yeah, com stands for Comerica
18:24 mircea_popescu no srsly, they are "pretty sure" shit could bne done
18:24 mircea_popescu by other people.
18:25 nubbins` i'm pretty sure that by reading this statement, you owe me 1 BTC
18:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.00339997 = 0.221 BTC [+] {4}
18:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00083546 = 3.3001 BTC [-]
18:25 mircea_popescu http://marysdiary.com/
18:25 ozbot Marys Diary App
18:25 kakobrekla shit. where do i send
18:25 mircea_popescu the dork's signature ? some marijuana growing shit ?
18:25 nubbins` 1BitcoinEaterDoNotSendabcfgfgd
18:25 nubbins` or whatever it is
18:26 thestringpuller OMG dis is the best app eva
18:26 mircea_popescu so some dweeb growing bud illegally is going to take down sites legally. morpheus.
18:26 kakobrekla ok just dont write any such lines any more
18:26 nubbins` hey, a grow log
18:26 thestringpuller a grow log app **
18:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.38 = 1.52 BTC [-]
18:26 nubbins` know what growers need? an electronic log of their illicit activities, on their phones
18:26 kakobrekla LOL
18:27 nubbins` imagine the money this'd bring in on facebook!
18:27 thestringpuller dude growing is legal in washington and oregon
18:27 thestringpuller and like colorado
18:27 thestringpuller SO
18:27 thestringpuller you know
18:27 thestringpuller I don't thing people there give a shit at this point
18:27 nubbins` kakobrekla: txid or the lines continue!
18:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5719 @ 0.0005 = 2.8595 BTC
18:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2300 @ 0.00339995 = 7.8199 BTC [-] {6}
18:27 kakobrekla hold on a sec my blockchain just crashed
18:27 kakobrekla could take 2 months to rebuild
18:27 nubbins` try reconnecting to another blockchain
18:28 kakobrekla im trying, it wont budge.
18:28 nubbins` fuck
18:28 nubbins` blast this technology!
18:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 260 @ 0.00310002 = 0.806 BTC [-] {3}
18:28 mircea_popescu nubbins` no, it's golden. the money morpheus dude figured it all out.
18:29 nubbins` guess he took the green pill
18:29 mircea_popescu ahahaha
18:29 nubbins` oh hey, HIF batch 1 sold out
18:29 mircea_popescu kakobrekla make a forum thread ?
18:29 mircea_popescu o wait, you can
18:29 mircea_popescu 't. well i guess you're fucked then buddy
18:29 kakobrekla :'/
18:29 mircea_popescu if only you could have made a forum thread about it.
18:30 nubbins` missed opportunities
18:30 mircea_popescu "Thieves seldom prosper. You had to buy your trust. You have to rip people off at your betting site (don't say you're not connected) and your exchance is a ponzi, money laundering scheme. You literally can't do anything honestly."
18:30 truffles talking about useful things in the room nubbins`?
18:30 mircea_popescu i'm sad now.
18:31 mircea_popescu wait wait
18:31 mircea_popescu Sue me. I could do with the discovery documents. A new age of bitcoin has come. People like you need to get out. But you will be held accountable in the end. Scum
18:31 mircea_popescu omfg. ahahaha.
18:31 nubbins` a new age :0
18:31 nubbins` i better wash my suit
18:31 nubbins` is it a new age of growing weed, too?
18:31 mircea_popescu btctalk seriously hit some new highs
18:32 mircea_popescu in the sense of you know... lows.
18:33 pankkake he's probably going to offer you to buy him out a bit later
18:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.371 = 0.742 BTC [-] {2}
18:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00300031 = 0.15 BTC [-] {2}
18:33 pankkake that's the new things to do with casinos it seems
18:33 pankkake -s
18:34 kakobrekla hm i just noticed your for pay trolling services pankkake, is the price still same?
18:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.031 = 0.124 BTC [-]
18:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14000001 = 0.28 BTC [-]
18:34 mircea_popescu it'd better not be, btc went up
18:34 pankkake who cares about USD
18:35 kakobrekla wordcount
18:35 pankkake the pricing is bad anyway
18:35 mircea_popescu that'd be a good title. Count Wordcunt
18:35 pankkake ideally, it should be "pay what you want"
18:36 mircea_popescu no cause gay ppl would hire you all the time to troll for them and pay in sex.
18:36 pankkake I've had two offers, and didn't make anyone pay because there was pretty much no results
18:36 pankkake well, no gay sex and no litecoins please
18:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2100 @ 0.0000709 = 0.1489 BTC [-]
18:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.03099999 = 0.806 BTC [-]
18:36 mircea_popescu tlc ?
18:37 kakobrekla ixcoin then
18:37 pankkake hehe
18:37 mircea_popescu trollcoins, not tender love and cwhateveer
18:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37 BTC [-]
18:41 pankkake I need to work on Bernankoin again. believe it or not, the most annoying part is renaming "Bitcoin" strings
18:41 mircea_popescu no awk where you live ?
18:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2284 @ 0.00007087 = 0.1619 BTC [-] {4}
18:42 pankkake not that simple
18:42 pankkake perhaps I should fork an altcoin instead
18:43 mircea_popescu pankkake fork an altcoin and make it back into bitcoin.
18:43 pankkake too late, someone did it
18:43 mircea_popescu "everyone's doing soemthing! we'll do nothing!"
18:43 pankkake well, not exactly, but one guy made a scrypt bitcoin
18:43 pankkake but it uses the old blockchain etc
18:44 pankkake so if you install it, you get on that forked chain
18:44 mircea_popescu a
18:44 pankkake it's the only banned altcoin on bitcointalk
18:44 mircea_popescu wait it's banned ?! why ?!
18:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 8 @ 0.05800001 = 0.464 BTC [-] {2}
18:45 thestringpuller you mean litecoin?
18:45 nubbins` aah, my sides
18:45 pankkake because it reuses everything in ~/.bitcoin so you can't really use it in parallel with bitcoin. it's guaranteed to make noobs cry
18:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.058 = 0.348 BTC [-]
18:45 mircea_popescu o o o
18:45 mircea_popescu good reason actually.
18:46 nubbins` that's like libreoffice forking openoffice and keeping the name openoffice
18:46 pankkake kakobrekla: also "Any respected member of the community can get a free trial, provided they give a rating afterwards (good or bad)."
18:46 mircea_popescu free trial of the altcoin ?!
18:46 mircea_popescu they what, send you mining gear ?
18:46 pankkake no, of the trolling service
18:46 nubbins` heh
18:47 nubbins` people always assume i'm trolling :(
18:47 nubbins` mircea_popescu: is source for eulora 0.0.3 available?
18:48 mircea_popescu i don' even know
18:48 pankkake http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-20/maduro-decrees-showering-venezuelans-250-average-samsung-trinkets
18:48 ozbot Maduro's First Socialist "Decree" - $250 Samsung Trinkets For Every Venezuelan | Zero Hedge
18:48 thestringpuller best answer ever
18:48 mircea_popescu at least it's honest ;/
18:48 nubbins` heh
18:48 mircea_popescu nubbins` there is a source published but i think slightly older
18:49 nubbins` yeah, had trouble compiling that one, figured i'd give the new one a shot if it was around
18:49 mircea_popescu and there's a huge code returmoilizing going on atm so i think after this is stabilized.
18:49 nubbins` ah yeah
18:49 mircea_popescu if it still won't work, at least it definitely won't work in a different way
18:49 mircea_popescu i don't think it'll be possible it not works the same way as prev one.
18:50 nubbins` oh maybe. osx uses llvm-gcc, which caused some issues
18:50 nubbins` could work through it to a point by replacing it with a traditional gcc, but that just creates more problems later
18:50 mircea_popescu i'm not that advanced.
18:51 nubbins` neither am i, apparently 8)
18:51 mircea_popescu :p
18:52 mircea_popescu pankkake maduro is the chavez clone they got ?
18:52 deadweasel shit, i'm assocaite dwith bitbet nao.
18:53 deadweasel I guess you'll have to start paying me
18:53 deadweasel :P
18:53 pankkake yes… this country is turning into shit fast
18:53 truffles the US is in deep shit already though
18:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37000001 BTC [+]
18:56 mircea_popescu a link in the thread of gold made me re-read the log here.
18:56 mircea_popescu "nubbins`:
18:56 mircea_popescu male roommate seems distinctly more impressed by nsa + vag photo than my wife"
18:56 mircea_popescu does that mean your roommate is more impressed with my shirted girl than with your wife
18:56 mircea_popescu or than your wife is impressed with same shirted girl
18:57 mircea_popescu deadweasel im not paying you because you sent in your application too late.
18:57 deadweasel can i get it refunded?
18:57 mircea_popescu yes. one second.
18:57 mircea_popescu http://www.27bslash6.com/images/spiderdrawing.gif
18:57 truffles deadweasel what did u apply for?
18:58 nubbins` oh, i can see how that would be ambiguous
18:58 deadweasel lol
18:58 mircea_popescu when did your room mate see your wife naked anyway
18:58 deadweasel it's a gif, I was waiting for it to move dammit
18:58 mircea_popescu deadweasel http://www.27bslash6.com/overdue.html
18:58 nubbins` let me think this through
18:59 nubbins` roommate was more impressed by vag than wife was
18:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.00338999 = 0.2983 BTC [+] {2}
18:59 mircea_popescu aok
18:59 nubbins` that's not really proper syntax either
18:59 nubbins` but it's clearer, at least
18:59 mircea_popescu make it a quatrain.
18:59 pankkake ooh, I think I've seen that story elsewhere
18:59 mircea_popescu than my wife, my roomate
18:59 mircea_popescu impressed all the more he was
18:59 mircea_popescu with the pubis and cuntal suggestion
18:59 mircea_popescu of the girl in the nsa shirt
18:59 mircea_popescu (i swear it rhymes in jabanese)
18:59 truffles u have a roommate and a wife?
19:00 nubbins` hah
19:00 pankkake truffles: that was the most confusing to me
19:00 nubbins` i have two roommates and a wife
19:00 mircea_popescu pankkake if you did it was stolen. it's this guy's.
19:00 mircea_popescu nubbins` guess what ? so do i! the wife changes among the three periodically.
19:00 truffles i thought i was the only one clueless
19:01 nubbins` oh cool!
19:01 nubbins` truffles, you are D;
19:01 truffles i know, thats y i ask questions
19:01 nubbins` no better way to learn, keep it up
19:01 truffles i will thanks
19:01 truffles gotta make my brain useful u know
19:01 nubbins` anyway, i like people and i like having my mortgage mostly paid for by others
19:02 nubbins` pretty much win-win for me
19:02 truffles so u arent mircea_popescu's roommate?
19:02 nubbins` not afaik
19:02 nubbins` altho those guys living with the dread pirate roberts didn't know until after the fact
19:03 truffles 1 woman 3 husbands kinda thing ?
19:04 nubbins` not sure exactly his arrangement, you'd have to ask him
19:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2378 @ 0.00083546 = 1.9867 BTC [-]
19:09 dub 'yes officer I knew my all along about his illegal internet drug empire'
19:09 mircea_popescu "we even smoked stuff he brought home"
19:10 dub I hid a kilo of his coke in my ass
19:10 mircea_popescu "i kept some. it;s hidden. would you like to look for it up my rectum ?"
19:10 mircea_popescu exactly.
19:10 dub story checks out
19:13 thestringpuller ;;ticker
19:13 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 637.99998, Best ask: 642.8981, Bid-ask spread: 4.89812, Last trade: 642.8981, 24 hour volume: 86931.12318318, 24 hour low: 453.29, 24 hour high: 650.0, 24 hour vwap: 551.11511
19:13 thestringpuller is anyone else experience extreme lag with bitcoinity?
19:13 dub no
19:13 thestringpuller the shit doesn't auto refresh for me
19:14 dub seems to match whats on the sockets
19:14 thestringpuller trades used to come in "real time"
19:14 pascal257 [WTS] 3537 ADDICTION direct shares - Message me with your offer
19:14 thestringpuller but now I have to refresh the page to get them to show up
19:14 thestringpuller so I dunno wtf is up
19:14 dub have you tried turning it off and back on again?
19:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 79 @ 0.00338505 = 0.2674 BTC [-] {3}
19:15 truffles haha
19:15 mircea_popescu hahahaha
19:15 mircea_popescu thestringpuller your browswer prolly choked on the memory leaking. relaod it ?
19:16 dub choked on the memory leaking
19:16 dub do you by any chance work for juniper networks?
19:16 pankkake browsers are like windows 9x these days. they don't last a few days of uptime
19:17 kakobrekla too much nsa in ur tabs
19:22 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg3657668#msg3657668
19:22 ozbot Terrible Experience with Bets of Bitcoin / Bitbet
19:22 kakobrekla re: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=4
19:22 pankkake who's fat?
19:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.37100001 = 0.742 BTC [+]
19:23 kakobrekla the guys who is pretending to be mpoe-pr obv
19:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.371 = 2.226 BTC [-] {3}
19:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.3702 = 1.851 BTC [-] {3}
19:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 10907 @ 0.001045 = 11.3978 BTC [-] {3}
19:24 truffles http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=17 hmmm
19:24 ozbot #bitcoin-assets bash
19:24 mike_c it's frustrating that mpoe-pr was actually respectful and helpful for most of that conversation, and snackman just kept crying and not listening.
19:25 truffles respectful?
19:25 truffles link plz
19:25 mike_c yeah, like actually trying to explain things to him
19:25 thestringpuller ;;ticker
19:25 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 622.5, Best ask: 624.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 622.5, 24 hour volume: 86363.14823813, 24 hour low: 453.29, 24 hour high: 650.0, 24 hour vwap: 550.7514
19:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 3985 @ 0.00339988 = 13.5485 BTC [+] {6}
19:25 mike_c https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg3645066#msg3645066
19:25 ozbot Terrible Experience with Bets of Bitcoin / Bitbet
19:26 mike_c "I understand that it's hard not to take it personally when you've lost BTC, but no, seriously, if you're into BTC I think it'd be great if you spent the time and the energy (this isn't "condescension", again; it takes a lot of time and energy, far more than most people are used to expending, to wisely and correctly handle Bitcoin"
19:26 mike_c i guess frustrating because i tried the same when he was crying in this channel, and got just as far.
19:26 pankkake bascially he used "bets of bitcoin" like a web wallet?
19:27 mike_c and refused to try to understand double spending
19:27 truffles i didnt get respectful out of that, it wasnt the usual though
19:38 truffles "Unconfirmed bets are not refunded. Kindly see FAQ, and include tx fees next time. Think of the miners!" >>> as a gambler id be pissed if it was 10 cent
19:39 pankkake the lesson here is really do not send money from another service that isn't even a web wallet, there is zero guarantee it would be sent on time
19:39 pankkake especially if you encounter a have-to-wait-for-cold-storage situation
19:40 truffles i dont think thats the lesson i got
19:40 truffles its that tough shit, we got ur money
19:40 pankkake why learn when you can blame others?
19:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.371 BTC [+]
19:40 mircea_popescu something like that.
19:40 truffles lol
19:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 364 @ 0.00175 = 0.637 BTC [-] {2}
19:53 mircea_popescu speaking of the entire psychopath thing, anyone heard anything of eclipse anymore ?
19:53 mircea_popescu (the one pool run by the one guy that decided it's a good idea to get pissy with me)
19:55 kakobrekla you mean the one who made biwikley payouts so coins would sit in pirates wallet?
19:55 kakobrekla biweekly
19:55 kakobrekla or twice a month to be exact
19:55 kakobrekla there was an argument what biweekly means somewhere
19:56 kakobrekla now im scared to use it
19:56 mircea_popescu hehe
19:56 deadweasel semi monthly?
19:56 mircea_popescu yeah, biweekly means twice a week
19:56 kakobrekla bimonthly
19:56 pankkake I thought it meant you liked male weeks and female weeks
19:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 850 @ 0.00175 = 1.4875 BTC [-] {2}
19:58 mircea_popescu that's ovester. like semester, but with womanly bits.
19:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.39944999 = 1.5978 BTC [+] {2}
19:59 mircea_popescu anyway. that's all for me. see you all before 1000
20:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3995 BTC [+]
20:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 94 @ 0.00175001 = 0.1645 BTC [+]
20:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39999997 BTC [+]
20:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 155 @ 0.00315855 = 0.4896 BTC [-] {4}
20:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.124 = 0.372 BTC [-] {2}
20:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 43 @ 0.00347 = 0.1492 BTC [-]
20:19 nubbins` biweekly means every two weeks
20:19 nubbins` bicentennial means every 200 years
20:19 kakobrekla save it for when he is back
20:19 nubbins` :(
20:19 nubbins` biweekly mortgage payments
20:19 nubbins` actually i think that argument was in here
20:21 asciilifeform http://blog.jim.com/crypto/rdrand.html
20:21 ozbot RDRAND « Jim’s Blog
20:29 dub biweekly means twice a week
20:31 Ademan ASICMINER's dividend was weak super weak, this isn't a good trend...
20:31 Ademan s/weak //
20:39 nubbins` except when it means every two weeks
20:47 pankkake so today we learn languages do not make sense?
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21:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.35000001 = 0.7 BTC [-]
21:12 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I liken that sort of stuff to the people who support Elliptic curve cryptography because the short keys let minimalist embeded smartcard hardware carry out thousands of operations a second as opposed to hundreds for RSA with appropriately long keys.
21:15 kakobrekla http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/11/smart-tv-from-lg-phones-home-with-users-viewing-habits-usb-file-names/
21:15 kakobrekla telescreen!
21:16 pankkake "It sounds like the premise of a Philip K. Dick story" wait, what?
21:17 kakobrekla yeah more details here http://doctorbeet.blogspot.com/2013/11/lg-smart-tvs-logging-usb-filenames-and.html
21:17 pankkake this is why I don't have a "smart" anything
21:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.38999996 = 2.34 BTC [+] {5}
21:25 BingoBoingo I've went from smart phones to a new prepaid burner every few months. Eventually I imagine I'll stop even that.
21:27 pankkake how anonymous are you with that?
21:27 pankkake I think even prepaid cell phones in France require you to activate it in some non-anonymous way
21:27 pankkake but it's not really an issue. I just don't put anything important in my nonfree stuff
21:34 BingoBoingo pankkake: Well here the ATT GoPhones can be activated with themselves, seem the most anon I've found so far. I imagine not too anonymous though because of calling patterns and such.
21:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.39639999 = 2.7748 BTC [+] {4}
21:38 dub what is it you think you are doing that requires this level of inconvenience?
21:41 dub presumably you're not obtaining internet access in any way that links to you
21:42 dub you've never sent or received an email with your name in it
21:44 dub and clearly everyone you communicate with using this burner-go-round uses the same practise
21:45 pankkake actually doing that would probably qualify you quickly as a terrorist
21:46 dub well if they dont what you are doing is completely pointless
21:47 dub I can't fathom a reason to deprive yourself of modern luxuries in this manner unless you actually are a terrorist
21:48 asciilifeform maybe just practicing for being a terrorist.
21:48 BingoBoingo dub: Mostly avoiding ex's. I mean I'm mentioning this in plaintext from an internet connection so it is already practically public.
21:49 BingoBoingo I though aspire to be a techno hermit.
21:53 BingoBoingo The idea of requiring some sort of proof of work to contact me unsolicited is appealing.
21:53 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: just don't answer any email that doesn't include a unique tx-id of one satoshi sent to you.
21:54 asciilifeform maybe it will catch on.
21:54 pankkake didn't facebook do that?
21:54 pankkake anyway one of the proof of work ideas was actually to fight spam
21:54 pankkake +first
21:55 dub just do away with authentication altogether
21:55 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'm at the moment finding it useful to simply require people to learn to GPG to discover my email address.
21:55 dub make your emails fungible
21:55 pankkake I don't really understand why it didn't catch on
21:55 pankkake I'm doing greylisting, which is kind of similar now
21:55 dub because its retarded
21:55 dub reputation systems work better
21:56 dub (they still suck)
21:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00083456 = 5.0074 BTC [-] {2}
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22:19 bloctoc dub I'm trying to sell an mp and get some credibility to the point where I can close my bank account.
22:21 bloctoc sorry wrong channel
22:22 bloctoc in this channel, I'm trying to get tech support for eulora.
22:23 bloctoc so that I can make money enough money on video games to quit my job
22:28 pankkake pro gamers in eulora already?
22:29 bloctoc actually, I can't get past install, but I can dream.
22:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 151 @ 0.00104202 = 0.1573 BTC [-] {5}
22:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 98 @ 0.00104202 = 0.1021 BTC [-] {2}
22:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 678 @ 0.00104164 = 0.7062 BTC [-] {6}
22:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 587 @ 0.00104007 = 0.6105 BTC [-] {8}
22:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 579 @ 0.00103983 = 0.6021 BTC [-] {9}
22:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0008307 = 2.1598 BTC [-]
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 4193 @ 0.001035 = 4.3398 BTC [-] {5}
22:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 120 @ 0.00103001 = 0.1236 BTC [-] {4}
22:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 124 @ 0.00102528 = 0.1271 BTC [-] {3}
22:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1354 @ 0.00102199 = 1.3838 BTC [-] {7}
22:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2111 @ 0.00102094 = 2.1552 BTC [-] {5}
22:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2193 @ 0.00101633 = 2.2288 BTC [-] {7}
22:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1163 @ 0.00101527 = 1.1808 BTC [-] {6}
22:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 836 @ 0.00101147 = 0.8456 BTC [-] {4}
22:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 8356 @ 0.00101095 = 8.4475 BTC [-] {7}
22:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2873 @ 0.0010096 = 2.9006 BTC [-] {5}
22:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 5577 @ 0.001003 = 5.5937 BTC [-] {5}
22:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 363 @ 0.00100054 = 0.3632 BTC [-] {4}
22:51 nubbins` heh
22:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 11434 @ 0.001 = 11.434 BTC [-]
22:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
23:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
23:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.001752 = 0.1752 BTC [+]
23:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00349499 = 0.1957 BTC [-]
23:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.0008307 = 1.2045 BTC [-]
23:16 BingoBoingo I can't believe I forgot to propose a BitBet for Anand vs. Carlsen
23:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [-]
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23:33 BingoBoingo I just like the match up where even though Anand is defending the title, his challenger has a manager and staff such that Anand seemed the underdog going into this in the popular narrative. Very Rocky III like.
23:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 129 @ 0.00100999 = 0.1303 BTC [-] {2}
23:46 BingoBoingo I just hope Anand takes his last two games as white as an opportunity to break this god damned Ruy Lopez monotony.
23:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 110 @ 0.001022 = 0.1124 BTC [+]
23:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.352 BTC [-]
23:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.35100002 BTC [-]
23:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00082814 = 9.0267 BTC [-]
23:55 benkay ;;seen thestringpuller
23:55 gribble thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 29 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> ;;ticker
23:55 benkay ;;later tell mircea_popescu if pluggable rng, why not user-providable keys on later models?
23:55 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:55 benkay ;;later tell asciilifeform if pluggable rng, why not user-providable keys on later models?
23:55 gribble The operation succeeded.
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