Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans
← 2013-06-30 | 2013-07-02 → ↓
00:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 48 @ 0.004689 = 0.2251 BTC [+]
00:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 283 @ 0.00469 = 1.3273 BTC [+]
00:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 49 @ 0.0047 = 0.2303 BTC [+]
00:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 10 @ 0.005001 = 0.05 BTC [+]
00:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 4 @ 0.005067 = 0.0203 BTC [+]
00:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 206 @ 0.005068 = 1.044 BTC [+]
00:04 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 29 @ 0.019 = 0.551 BTC [+]
00:05 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 42 @ 0.01919 = 0.806 BTC [+]
00:05 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 25 @ 0.0195 = 0.4875 BTC [+]
00:05 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 38 @ 0.0195 = 0.741 BTC [+]
00:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0427 = 0.1281 BTC [-]
00:08 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.063 = 0.126 BTC [+]
00:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2116 @ 0.00083023 = 1.7568 BTC [+]
00:11 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 80 @ 0.0055 = 0.44 BTC [+]
00:11 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0055 = 0.011 BTC [+]
00:18 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.019989 BTC [+]
00:19 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0429 = 0.6435 BTC [+]
00:25 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 5 @ 0.032 = 0.16 BTC [+]
00:26 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 5 @ 0.032 = 0.16 BTC [+]
00:29 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 30 @ 0.0495 = 1.485 BTC [-]
00:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.0427 = 2.0069 BTC [-]
00:31 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 38 @ 0.00115 = 0.0437 BTC [+]
00:39 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 50 @ 0.0495 = 2.475 BTC [-]
00:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.274 = 8.548 BTC [+]
00:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.275 BTC [+]
00:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.274 = 8.548 BTC [-]
00:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.042698 BTC [+]
00:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.200033 BTC [-]
00:47 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 37 @ 0.0055 = 0.2035 BTC [+]
00:51 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 29 @ 0.0055 = 0.1595 BTC [+]
00:52 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 1 @ 0.032 BTC [+]
00:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0427 = 0.1708 BTC [-]
00:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.0427 = 1.2383 BTC [-]
00:55 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 5 @ 0.00115 = 0.0058 BTC [+]
00:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.200053 BTC [+]
01:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.505 BTC [-]
01:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0427 = 0.427 BTC [-]
01:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 304 @ 0.0427 = 12.9808 BTC [-]
01:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00083074 = 2.7414 BTC [+]
01:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.288794 BTC [+]
01:06 assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 20 @ 0.0015 = 0.03 BTC [-]
01:08 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 7 @ 0.00115 = 0.0081 BTC [+]
01:08 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 150 @ 0.00115 = 0.1725 BTC [+]
01:09 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.005895 = 0.0413 BTC [+]
01:09 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.0059 = 0.59 BTC [+]
01:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.288795 BTC [+]
01:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.043 = 0.387 BTC [+]
01:11 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 420 @ 0.001021 = 0.4288 BTC [-]
01:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.04325 = 1.7733 BTC [+]
01:12 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 5 @ 0.0197 = 0.0985 BTC [-]
01:12 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.019601 = 1.9601 BTC [-]
01:12 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 75 @ 0.0195 = 1.4625 BTC [-]
01:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.042695 = 0.2562 BTC [-]
01:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.04325 = 0.346 BTC [+]
01:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.04329 = 1.8182 BTC [+]
01:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0429 = 0.6435 BTC [-]
01:17 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 35 @ 0.04329 = 1.5152 BTC [+]
01:19 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.042801 = 0.7704 BTC [-]
01:20 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.04329 = 0.4329 BTC [+]
01:23 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.0198 BTC [+]
01:28 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 239 @ 0.001021 = 0.244 BTC [-]
01:28 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 261 @ 0.00102 = 0.2662 BTC [-]
01:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [-]
01:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00083238 = 4.4116 BTC [+]
01:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00083304 = 20.2429 BTC [+]
01:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.04329 BTC [+]
01:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6365 @ 0.00083074 = 5.2877 BTC [-]
01:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00083304 = 1.2496 BTC [+]
01:39 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.007 BTC [+]
01:40 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 49 @ 0.001196 = 0.0586 BTC [+]
01:40 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.04329 = 0.8658 BTC [+]
01:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 37 @ 0.042695 = 1.5797 BTC [-]
01:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04210001 = 0.1263 BTC [-]
01:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 19 @ 0.0421 = 0.7999 BTC [-]
01:43 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.170001 = 0.85 BTC [-]
01:44 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.04329 = 0.8225 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.269 BTC [-]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.043 = 0.731 BTC [-]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.042801 = 1.3696 BTC [-]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0427 = 0.427 BTC [-]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.0426 = 1.7466 BTC [-]
01:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0426 BTC [-]
01:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.269 BTC [-]
01:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [+]
01:53 asswatch !help
01:53 assbot List of commands:
01:53 assbot !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
01:53 assbot !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
01:53 assbot !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
01:53 assbot !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
01:53 assbot !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
01:54 Diablo-D3 http://i.imgur.com/IS9ol.jpg
01:54 asswatch !mp http://dpaste.com/1276903/
01:54 assbot Processing.
01:54 assbot Response: http://dpaste.com/1276905/plain/
02:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00083304 = 0.6664 BTC [+]
02:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00083328 = 5.8746 BTC [+]
02:04 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.043249 = 2.1625 BTC [+]
02:04 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.04325 = 2.1625 BTC [+]
02:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 56 @ 0.04329 = 2.4242 BTC [+]
02:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1844 @ 0.00083074 = 1.5319 BTC [-]
02:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 806 @ 0.0008289 = 0.6681 BTC [-]
02:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2194 @ 0.0008289 = 1.8186 BTC [-]
02:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8937 @ 0.00082797 = 7.3996 BTC [-]
02:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.2729 BTC [+]
02:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.04329 = 0.2165 BTC [+]
~ 17 minutes ~
02:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.2729 BTC [+]
02:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.04329 = 2.5974 BTC [+]
02:35 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0075 BTC [+]
02:36 assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.0019 = 0.019 BTC [+]
02:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.1860209 = 0.372 BTC [+]
02:51 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.001199 = 0.03 BTC [+]
02:51 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.001018 BTC [-]
02:52 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.0198 BTC [+]
03:01 furuknap So, apparently, I'm going public. http://bfmines.com/2013/07/01/update-bfmines-approved-trading-commences-wednesday-july-3/
03:06 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.0198 = 0.0594 BTC [+]
03:06 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 6 @ 0.0199 = 0.1194 BTC [+]
03:06 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 19 @ 0.019989 = 0.3798 BTC [+]
03:06 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 79 @ 0.01999 = 1.5792 BTC [+]
03:06 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 25 @ 0.02 = 0.5 BTC [+]
03:06 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 55 @ 0.02 = 1.1 BTC [+]
03:08 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2 @ 0.00115 = 0.0023 BTC [+]
03:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.273 BTC [+]
03:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 46 @ 0.004999 = 0.23 BTC [-]
03:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 8 @ 0.005 = 0.04 BTC [+]
03:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 42 @ 0.005065 = 0.2127 BTC [+]
03:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 100 @ 0.005065 = 0.5065 BTC [+]
03:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 154 @ 0.005067 = 0.7803 BTC [+]
03:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 39 @ 0.005067 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
03:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 20 @ 0.005068 = 0.1014 BTC [+]
03:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 19 @ 0.0051 = 0.0969 BTC [+]
03:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 3 @ 0.0052 = 0.0156 BTC [+]
03:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.263001 BTC [-]
03:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.043279 = 0.3895 BTC [-]
03:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00082731 = 9.5968 BTC [-]
03:16 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 240 @ 0.02 = 4.8 BTC [+]
03:16 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.263 BTC [-]
03:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00082731 = 5.998 BTC [-]
03:21 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.179989 BTC [+]
03:21 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 569 @ 0.0052 = 2.9588 BTC [+]
03:23 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 11 @ 0.0495 = 0.5445 BTC [-]
03:25 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.179989 BTC [+]
03:27 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.043279 = 0.2164 BTC [-]
03:27 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.263 = 8.526 BTC [-]
03:36 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.008 BTC [+]
03:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 120 @ 0.005227 = 0.6272 BTC [+]
03:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1000 @ 0.005228 = 5.228 BTC [+]
03:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.042901 = 0.5577 BTC [-]
03:41 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.0426 = 0.4686 BTC [-]
03:41 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.043279 = 0.9954 BTC [+]
03:53 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 98 @ 0.0052 = 0.5096 BTC [-]
03:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 400 @ 0.0052 = 2.08 BTC [-]
03:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 3 @ 0.0052 = 0.0156 BTC [-]
04:00 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 23 @ 0.00115 = 0.0265 BTC [+]
04:00 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0084 = 0.084 BTC [+]
04:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.264 BTC [+]
04:02 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.0012 = 0.03 BTC [+]
04:02 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.001201 = 0.03 BTC [+]
04:02 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.001202 = 0.0301 BTC [+]
04:02 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.001203 = 0.0301 BTC [+]
04:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.04278 = 2.139 BTC [+]
04:05 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [+]
04:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.299999 = 2.1 BTC [-]
04:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.04293 = 0.1717 BTC [-]
04:11 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.00115 = 0.0288 BTC [-]
04:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 28 @ 0.042789 = 1.1981 BTC [+]
04:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 0.3 = 6 BTC [+]
04:14 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 150 @ 0.001227 = 0.1841 BTC [+]
04:15 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 21 @ 0.0495 = 1.0395 BTC [-]
04:17 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.04293 = 0.4722 BTC [-]
04:18 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 47 @ 0.02 = 0.94 BTC [+]
04:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.043279 = 0.4761 BTC [+]
04:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.295 BTC [+]
04:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.3 BTC [+]
04:19 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 19 @ 0.0495 = 0.9405 BTC [-]
04:19 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.001101 = 0.011 BTC [-]
04:21 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.0429 = 1.6302 BTC [-]
04:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2819 @ 0.00082731 = 2.3322 BTC [-]
04:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6427 @ 0.00082846 = 5.3245 BTC [+]
04:29 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.001174 = 0.0117 BTC [-]
04:37 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 18 @ 0.0205 = 0.369 BTC [+]
04:37 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.0205 BTC [+]
04:37 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 235 @ 0.021 = 4.935 BTC [+]
04:37 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 25 @ 0.021 = 0.525 BTC [+]
04:37 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 12 @ 0.021198 = 0.2544 BTC [+]
04:37 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.021198 = 0.212 BTC [+]
04:37 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 25 @ 0.0215 = 0.5375 BTC [+]
04:37 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.021789 = 2.1789 BTC [+]
04:37 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.021998 = 2.1998 BTC [+]
04:37 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 24 @ 0.022 = 0.528 BTC [+]
04:40 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 4 @ 0.001174 = 0.0047 BTC [-]
04:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00082655 = 1.2398 BTC [-]
04:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7008 @ 0.00082639 = 5.7913 BTC [-]
04:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.0423 = 1.0575 BTC [-]
04:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.37 = 8.74 BTC [+]
04:47 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 20 @ 0.029711 = 0.5942 BTC [-]
04:47 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 20 @ 0.02971 = 0.5942 BTC [-]
04:47 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 50 @ 0.0297 = 1.485 BTC [-]
04:47 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 5 @ 0.0296 = 0.148 BTC [-]
04:47 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 25 @ 0.0295 = 0.7375 BTC [-]
04:47 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 50 @ 0.029 = 1.45 BTC [-]
04:48 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0489 BTC [+]
04:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.043279 = 0.2164 BTC [+]
04:48 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 200 @ 0.0495 = 9.9 BTC [-]
04:48 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 40 @ 0.0495 = 1.98 BTC [-]
04:49 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.001174 = 0.0294 BTC [-]
04:53 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.37 BTC [+]
04:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.043279 = 1.082 BTC [+]
04:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.37 BTC [+]
04:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.043279 = 0.9521 BTC [+]
04:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 44 @ 0.04329 = 1.9048 BTC [+]
04:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.0433 = 0.9093 BTC [+]
04:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 198 @ 0.0433 = 8.5734 BTC [+]
04:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.0433 = 1.9485 BTC [+]
04:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 54 @ 0.043325 = 2.3396 BTC [+]
04:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 75 @ 0.04335 = 3.2513 BTC [+]
04:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 35 @ 0.043399 = 1.519 BTC [+]
04:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0435 = 0.261 BTC [+]
04:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.0435 = 1.74 BTC [+]
04:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.0435 = 1.9575 BTC [+]
04:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.378 BTC [+]
04:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.378 BTC [+]
05:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 4.393091 = 65.8964 BTC [+]
05:00 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 20 @ 0.001169 = 0.0234 BTC [-]
05:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.395 = 13.185 BTC [+]
05:01 assbot [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.96 BTC [+]
05:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.395 BTC [+]
05:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.395 = 8.79 BTC [+]
05:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.043699 = 2.185 BTC [+]
05:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.42 BTC [+]
05:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.043999 = 1.408 BTC [+]
05:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.044 = 1.188 BTC [+]
05:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 140 @ 0.0425 = 5.95 BTC [+]
05:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0425 BTC [+]
05:17 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.0495 BTC [-]
05:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4412 @ 0.00082616 = 3.645 BTC [-]
05:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.439989 BTC [+]
05:21 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 6 @ 0.021998 = 0.132 BTC [-]
05:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 54 @ 0.044 = 2.376 BTC [+]
05:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.044 = 0.176 BTC [+]
05:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 12 @ 0.00525 = 0.063 BTC [+]
05:24 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.001131 BTC [-]
05:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0425 BTC [+]
05:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.44 = 8.88 BTC [+]
05:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.44 = 13.32 BTC [+]
05:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.44 = 8.88 BTC [+]
05:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.044 = 0.264 BTC [+]
05:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.449989 BTC [+]
05:32 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.044285 = 1.3286 BTC [+]
05:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.45 BTC [+]
05:32 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0011 BTC [-]
05:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.45 = 8.9 BTC [+]
05:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.044285 = 0.7086 BTC [+]
05:34 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 50 @ 0.001221 = 0.0611 BTC [+]
05:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.043214 = 0.1296 BTC [-]
05:42 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.043215 = 0.2593 BTC [+]
05:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 31 @ 0.0425 = 1.3175 BTC [+]
05:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 18 @ 0.042749 = 0.7695 BTC [+]
05:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.45 = 8.9 BTC [+]
05:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.04275 = 0.5558 BTC [+]
05:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 270 @ 0.04279 = 11.5533 BTC [+]
05:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.043215 = 0.3025 BTC [+]
05:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.043214 = 2.0311 BTC [-]
05:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.043213 = 0.0864 BTC [-]
05:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.04312 = 0.2156 BTC [-]
05:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 61 @ 0.04279 = 2.6102 BTC [+]
05:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 239 @ 0.04279 = 10.2268 BTC [+]
05:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.042998 = 2.1499 BTC [+]
05:50 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 65 @ 0.0299 = 1.9435 BTC [+]
05:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00082712 = 3.722 BTC [+]
05:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 231 @ 0.00082846 = 0.1914 BTC [+]
05:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.0008319 = 1.539 BTC [+]
05:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4519 @ 0.00083261 = 3.7626 BTC [+]
05:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 107 @ 0.0429999 = 4.601 BTC [+]
05:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 4.45 = 57.85 BTC [+]
05:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 136 @ 0.0429999 = 5.848 BTC [+]
05:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.043 = 4.3 BTC [+]
05:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 121 @ 0.043 = 5.203 BTC [+]
05:55 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 40 @ 0.0299 = 1.196 BTC [+]
05:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04349999 BTC [+]
05:56 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 26 @ 0.0495 = 1.287 BTC [-]
05:57 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 20 @ 0.020101 = 0.402 BTC [-]
05:57 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 14 @ 0.0201 = 0.2814 BTC [-]
05:59 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 14 @ 0.0495 = 0.693 BTC [-]
06:00 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-]
06:00 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 5 @ 0.001019 = 0.0051 BTC [-]
06:00 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.001019 = 0.0102 BTC [-]
06:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 988 @ 0.00082616 = 0.8162 BTC [-]
06:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2171 @ 0.00082554 = 1.7922 BTC [-]
06:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 55 @ 0.04349999 = 2.3925 BTC [+]
06:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 238 @ 0.0435 = 10.353 BTC [+]
06:11 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 86 @ 0.0201 = 1.7286 BTC [-]
06:11 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 4 @ 0.02 = 0.08 BTC [-]
06:11 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 95 @ 0.0299 = 2.8405 BTC [+]
06:12 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 130 @ 0.0495 = 6.435 BTC [-]
06:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 435 @ 0.0442999 = 19.2705 BTC [+]
06:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.340013 BTC [-]
06:21 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.340014 = 17.3601 BTC [+]
06:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.340018 = 8.68 BTC [+]
06:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.340015 BTC [-]
06:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.044284 = 0.1329 BTC [+]
06:32 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.04351 = 0.174 BTC [-]
06:32 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 170 @ 0.02005 = 3.4085 BTC [+]
06:33 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 70 @ 0.0495 = 3.465 BTC [-]
06:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.044285 = 0.3986 BTC [+]
06:42 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.044285 = 1.5943 BTC [+]
06:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.043018 = 2.1509 BTC [-]
06:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04415 = 0.1325 BTC [+]
06:49 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.021993 BTC [+]
06:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3929 @ 0.00082554 = 3.2435 BTC [-]
06:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8277 @ 0.00082553 = 6.8329 BTC [-]
06:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 544 @ 0.00082549 = 0.4491 BTC [-]
06:53 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 118 @ 0.03 = 3.54 BTC [-]
06:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.044293 = 0.0886 BTC [+]
07:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.3 = 1.5 BTC [+]
07:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.043501 = 2.0445 BTC [-]
07:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 44 @ 0.0435 = 1.914 BTC [-]
07:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.04429 = 0.0886 BTC [+]
~ 15 minutes ~
07:27 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.177999 = 1.246 BTC [+]
07:28 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1869 BTC [+]
07:30 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 45 @ 0.187 = 8.415 BTC [+]
07:32 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.044249 = 1.1947 BTC [-]
07:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.438 BTC [+]
07:42 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.044249 = 0.177 BTC [-]
07:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.438999 = 31.073 BTC [+]
07:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.439 = 8.878 BTC [+]
07:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 4.438988 = 26.6339 BTC [-]
07:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.439 = 13.317 BTC [+]
07:49 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.044149 = 0.4856 BTC [-]
07:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.0441388 = 0.309 BTC [-]
07:51 jurov ;;bc,stats
07:51 gribble Current Blocks: 244236 | Current Difficulty: 2.1335329113983E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 245951 | Next Difficulty In: 1715 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 1 hour, 32 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 23598867.8191 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.60935
07:51 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 50 @ 0.00525 = 0.2625 BTC [+]
07:55 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 22 @ 0.02 = 0.44 BTC [-]
07:55 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 49 @ 0.0195 = 0.9555 BTC [-]
07:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 38 @ 0.00525 = 0.1995 BTC [+]
07:55 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 6 @ 0.001019 = 0.0061 BTC [-]
07:56 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 32 @ 0.000941 = 0.0301 BTC [-]
07:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 520 @ 0.0055 = 2.86 BTC [+]
07:58 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 6 @ 0.1999 = 1.1994 BTC [-]
07:58 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 44 @ 0.2 = 8.8 BTC [+]
07:59 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [+]
07:59 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000865 = 0.0043 BTC [-]
07:59 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 31 @ 0.000864 = 0.0268 BTC [-]
08:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.044149 = 0.0883 BTC [-]
08:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.39001 = 8.78 BTC [-]
08:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.4 BTC [+]
08:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.390005 BTC [-]
08:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.390008 = 17.56 BTC [+]
08:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.4 = 8.8 BTC [+]
08:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.4 = 30.8 BTC [+]
08:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.4 BTC [+]
08:13 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]
08:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.4 BTC [+]
08:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 14 @ 0.04413 = 0.6178 BTC [-]
08:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.0441388 = 0.3531 BTC [+]
08:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0441388 BTC [+]
08:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.4 = 17.6 BTC [+]
08:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1865 BTC [-]
08:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.187 = 0.935 BTC [+]
08:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.4 = 30.8 BTC [+]
08:19 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044149 BTC [-]
08:22 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.437998 = 31.066 BTC [+]
08:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 4.438 = 26.628 BTC [+]
08:23 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.001019 BTC [-]
08:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.44 BTC [+]
08:24 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.45 = 31.15 BTC [+]
08:24 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 4.49 = 44.9 BTC [+]
08:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.044149 = 0.3973 BTC [-]
08:25 assbot [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.292 BTC [-]
08:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.0435 = 1.0005 BTC [-]
08:26 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.044149 = 0.2649 BTC [+]
08:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.19799799 = 1.584 BTC [+]
08:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082595 = 3.3864 BTC [+]
08:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5656 @ 0.00082549 = 4.669 BTC [-]
08:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2605 @ 0.00082529 = 2.1499 BTC [-]
08:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 5 @ 0.0055 = 0.0275 BTC [+]
08:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.5 = 18 BTC [+]
08:32 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0022 = 0.0044 BTC [-]
08:32 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 70 @ 0.002013 = 0.1409 BTC [-]
08:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.044149 = 0.9271 BTC [+]
08:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044149 BTC [+]
08:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 4.5 = 22.5 BTC [+]
08:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 4.51 = 58.63 BTC [+]
08:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.51 BTC [+]
08:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.509999 BTC [-]
08:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.515 BTC [+]
08:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.75 BTC [+]
08:39 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.0495 BTC [-]
08:40 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 33 @ 0.001019 = 0.0336 BTC [-]
08:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6 BTC [-]
08:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 34 @ 0.0441388 = 1.5007 BTC [+]
08:41 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.044249 = 0.4867 BTC [+]
08:41 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.04425 = 0.0885 BTC [+]
08:41 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 65 @ 0.044295 = 2.8792 BTC [+]
08:41 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.044299 = 0.7531 BTC [+]
08:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 14 @ 0.04415 = 0.6181 BTC [+]
08:43 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.044299 = 0.1329 BTC [+]
08:43 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.044299 = 4.4299 BTC [+]
08:43 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.044776 = 1.4328 BTC [+]
08:43 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 265 @ 0.044777 = 11.8659 BTC [+]
08:44 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
08:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04415 = 0.1325 BTC [+]
08:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 23 @ 0.04443 = 1.0219 BTC [+]
08:45 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.044777 = 2.2389 BTC [+]
08:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.7398 BTC [+]
08:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.044777 = 0.0896 BTC [+]
08:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.19799899 BTC [+]
08:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 183 @ 0.044777 = 8.1942 BTC [+]
08:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.044978 = 0.2249 BTC [+]
08:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 151 @ 0.045 = 6.795 BTC [+]
08:49 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.182001 = 0.364 BTC [-]
08:49 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.045 = 0.9 BTC [+]
08:49 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.045 BTC [+]
08:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.199 = 1.99 BTC [+]
08:51 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.045 = 0.675 BTC [+]
08:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.045 = 0.675 BTC [+]
08:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.045 = 0.135 BTC [+]
08:56 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.187 BTC [+]
08:57 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 380 @ 0.0059 = 2.242 BTC [-]
08:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0449 = 0.1347 BTC [-]
08:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00082595 = 1.6519 BTC [+]
08:59 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0065 = 0.052 BTC [+]
08:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04401 BTC [-]
09:00 zebedee_ Sheesh. 4.75 BTC?
09:00 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0075 = 0.03 BTC [+]
09:00 zebedee_ Unbelievable.
09:00 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0085 = 0.0425 BTC [+]
09:00 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.045 = 0.315 BTC [+]
09:01 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.0011 BTC [+]
09:01 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.020999 BTC [+]
09:01 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.0011 = 0.011 BTC [+]
09:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 4.470008 = 22.35 BTC [-]
09:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5782 @ 0.00082529 = 4.7718 BTC [-]
09:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 385 @ 0.04444 = 17.1094 BTC [+]
09:08 arij wat
09:08 arij kakobrekla: gimme
09:08 kakobrekla a no.
09:09 arij who was the guy that runs btct?
09:10 ericmuyser someones getting cheeky with their AM shares - http://o7.no/12Bud66
09:10 kakobrekla burnside
09:10 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 18 @ 0.2 = 3.6 BTC [+]
09:10 ericmuyser kakobrekla: sweet, you able to get them working?
09:11 kakobrekla well i got em 10 min ago
09:11 kakobrekla so give me a few days
09:12 ericmuyser get to 'er
09:12 ericmuyser gl :)
09:12 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0098 BTC [+]
09:12 kakobrekla ty
09:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.7 BTC [+]
09:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.19999998 BTC [+]
09:16 arij kakobrekla, are you getting a bunch of them? are you making boards or something? taking orders? :D
09:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 260 @ 0.045 = 11.7 BTC [+]
09:16 kakobrekla well i have the capacity but dunno if theres a will
09:17 arij so
09:17 mircea_popescu lol
09:17 arij can i order
09:17 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]
09:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 315 @ 0.04444 = 13.9986 BTC [+]
09:19 kakobrekla well one can order a hooker in a bakery, and you will get it, but only if its a really good bakery
09:19 kakobrekla sorry i have been up for too long
09:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.500001 = 9 BTC [-]
09:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.5 BTC [-]
09:19 mircea_popescu lol
09:19 mircea_popescu kakobrekla : to quote my commenters, "You seem to be stark raving mad."
09:20 kakobrekla heh
09:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.460001 BTC [-]
09:24 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.46 BTC [-]
09:24 Diablo-D3 man
09:24 Diablo-D3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yS3cnsr6ac
09:24 ozbot Best of AMV Hell 6.66 - YouTube
09:24 Diablo-D3 skip to 8:30
09:24 Diablo-D3 wait for the chick
09:24 Diablo-D3 why does that chick look wrong
09:24 Diablo-D3 I cant quite put my finger on it
09:25 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.001099 = 0.1099 BTC [-]
09:25 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 295 @ 0.0011 = 0.3245 BTC [+]
09:25 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.0011 = 0.11 BTC [+]
09:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.04444 = 0.0889 BTC [+]
09:27 mircea_popescu if anyone is watching s.mg : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bad-error-messages-good-error-messages/#comment-93784
09:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 210 @ 0.045 = 9.45 BTC [+]
09:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 118 @ 0.045 = 5.31 BTC [+]
09:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.045 = 1.125 BTC [+]
09:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.045 = 0.09 BTC [+]
09:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.045 = 0.45 BTC [+]
09:33 kakobrekla for the infidels dunno i would need b
09:33 kakobrekla blah
09:33 kakobrekla fucking paste
09:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.549999 = 31.85 BTC [+]
09:33 kakobrekla this http://shrani.si/f/34/13D/1vCcNryh/imag0327.jpg
09:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 51 @ 0.046 = 2.346 BTC [+]
09:34 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.55 BTC [+]
09:34 Diablo-D3 kakobrekla: what are those?
09:34 kakobrekla fury asic
09:34 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 4.5899 = 36.7192 BTC [+]
09:34 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.589994 BTC [+]
09:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 4.6 = 46 BTC [+]
09:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 34 @ 0.045 = 1.53 BTC [+]
09:35 pankkake oh, bitfury. I read it as furry asics
09:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.65 = 9.3 BTC [+]
09:36 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.659 = 32.613 BTC [+]
09:37 mircea_popescu lol pankkake would like some furry ass-icks ?
09:37 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.04699 = 2.8194 BTC [+]
09:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 33 @ 0.04444 = 1.4665 BTC [-]
09:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 109 @ 0.044001 = 4.7961 BTC [-]
09:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 858 @ 0.044 = 37.752 BTC [-]
09:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0475 = 0.2375 BTC [+]
09:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.0475 = 0.3325 BTC [+]
09:43 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.001152 = 0.0115 BTC [+]
09:45 deadweasel furry ass-licks? y'all need to stop smearing peanut butter on yourselves -- your pets are not sex toys!
09:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0445 BTC [+]
09:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6 BTC [-]
09:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.04499 = 0.09 BTC [+]
09:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04499 = 0.135 BTC [+]
09:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04499 BTC [+]
09:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.04499 = 0.4949 BTC [+]
09:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.047299 = 0.2365 BTC [-]
09:50 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [+]
09:51 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 70 @ 0.002323 = 0.1626 BTC [+]
09:52 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 203 @ 0.002324 = 0.4718 BTC [+]
09:53 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 35 @ 0.002325 = 0.0814 BTC [+]
09:53 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6 BTC [-]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.659 BTC [+]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.65999 = 9.32 BTC [+]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.65999 BTC [+]
09:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.047299 = 2.1285 BTC [-]
09:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.0474 = 0.6636 BTC [+]
09:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.0474 = 1.3746 BTC [+]
09:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.0475 = 1.2825 BTC [+]
09:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6799 BTC [+]
09:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.044989 = 0.135 BTC [-]
09:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.044989 BTC [-]
10:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.600001 BTC [-]
10:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.044989 = 0.09 BTC [-]
10:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6 BTC [-]
10:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.6 = 9.2 BTC [-]
10:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.195 = 1.365 BTC [-]
10:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00082595 = 1.8171 BTC [+]
10:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.550002 = 9.1 BTC [-]
10:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 100 @ 0.0051 = 0.51 BTC [-]
10:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.04848 = 0.1939 BTC [+]
10:10 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=247640.0
10:10 ozbot SCAMHACKER TradeFortress - Alt of Pirateat40
10:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.028999 BTC [+]
10:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.029 BTC [+]
10:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.04848 = 2.0362 BTC [+]
10:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.550008 BTC [+]
10:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.048 = 0.144 BTC [-]
10:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.048 BTC [-]
10:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.048 = 0.144 BTC [-]
10:19 ThickAsThieves " I have concluded with 100% doubt that he is an alt of pirateat40."
10:19 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0482 = 0.0964 BTC [+]
10:19 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.0482 = 0.8194 BTC [+]
10:20 ThickAsThieves i was actually just thinking a few days ago, wondering why everyone trusts coinlenders
10:20 ThickAsThieves every other loan provider does shitty, but somehow his can pay consistently
10:21 pankkake "with 100% doubt"
10:22 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.629999 BTC [+]
10:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 100 @ 0.004347 = 0.4347 BTC [-]
10:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.509999 BTC [+]
10:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.044989 = 0.5849 BTC [-]
10:24 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 200 @ 0.0011 = 0.22 BTC [-]
10:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 62 @ 0.04819 = 2.9878 BTC [-]
10:26 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 62 @ 0.04819 = 2.9878 BTC [-]
10:26 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves iirc he doesn't take very much, and scams people on ripple to make mad crazy .5 btc profits
10:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.629995 BTC [-]
10:27 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=235823.0
10:27 ozbot Scammer label for Payb.tc/E&G (user 25846) (BitcoinMax)
10:27 ThickAsThieves hanging out in the scam forum seems like a bad habit
10:27 ThickAsThieves when i first posted in there i was like hmm i need to gtfo
10:32 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 23 @ 0.00989 = 0.2275 BTC [+]
10:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.043601 = 0.218 BTC [-]
10:34 mircea_popescu hanging on teh forum is a bad habit entirely.
10:34 mircea_popescu still, it's sort of like the zoo.
10:34 mircea_popescu gotta keep in touch with nature.
10:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.046001 = 2.3001 BTC [-]
10:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.046 = 1.058 BTC [-]
10:37 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.04785 = 0.1436 BTC [+]
10:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.59 BTC [-]
10:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.58 BTC [-]
10:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.57 BTC [-]
10:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.56 BTC [-]
10:38 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 6 @ 0.00108 = 0.0065 BTC [-]
10:38 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 5 @ 0.00108 = 0.0054 BTC [-]
10:38 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.00103 = 0.103 BTC [-]
10:38 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 5 @ 0.00102 = 0.0051 BTC [-]
10:38 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 9 @ 0.001018 = 0.0092 BTC [-]
10:38 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 3 @ 0.001015 = 0.003 BTC [-]
10:38 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 99 @ 0.001014 = 0.1004 BTC [-]
10:38 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 190 @ 0.001013 = 0.1925 BTC [-]
10:38 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 12 @ 0.001013 = 0.0122 BTC [-]
10:38 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 571 @ 0.001012 = 0.5779 BTC [-]
10:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.619998 BTC [+]
10:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00082595 = 2.1062 BTC [+]
10:40 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.04775 = 0.573 BTC [-]
10:42 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.046 = 0.69 BTC [-]
10:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
10:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.195 = 0.585 BTC [-]
10:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.619999 BTC [+]
10:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.62 BTC [+]
10:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0477 BTC [+]
10:48 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.001165 BTC [+]
10:48 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.058959 = 0.4717 BTC [-]
10:48 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.05896 = 0.1179 BTC [+]
10:49 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.0477 = 1.0017 BTC [+]
10:49 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2 @ 0.001165 = 0.0023 BTC [+]
10:50 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 10 @ 0.029989 = 0.2999 BTC [+]
10:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.64 BTC [+]
10:51 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 11 @ 0.004354 = 0.0479 BTC [+]
10:51 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 297 @ 0.00989 = 2.9373 BTC [+]
10:52 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 13 @ 0.19875 = 2.5838 BTC [-]
10:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.65 BTC [+]
10:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.658 BTC [+]
10:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 4.659 = 46.59 BTC [+]
10:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.66 BTC [+]
10:52 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0475 = 0.38 BTC [-]
10:55 thestringpuller quiet ass weekend
10:55 thestringpuller quiet ass monday
10:55 thestringpuller you niggas need to wake up
10:56 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 7 @ 0.001165 = 0.0082 BTC [+]
10:56 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 19 @ 0.001167 = 0.0222 BTC [+]
10:57 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.02 BTC [-]
10:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.005199 BTC [+]
10:59 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.005199 BTC [+]
11:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.047499 = 2.375 BTC [-]
11:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.0475 = 2.2325 BTC [+]
11:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0475 = 0.38 BTC [+]
11:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0475 = 0.38 BTC [+]
11:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0475 BTC [+]
11:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0437 = 0.1748 BTC [+]
11:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.0439 = 1.0975 BTC [+]
11:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0475 = 0.285 BTC [+]
11:09 davout thestringpuller: no niggers here, sorry
11:09 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.18 = 0.36 BTC [-]
11:09 davout thestringpuller: only proper aryans (except maybe some romanian managed to sneak in)
11:16 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 7 @ 0.001013 = 0.0071 BTC [-]
11:16 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.001013 = 0.0101 BTC [-]
11:16 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.001013 = 0.1013 BTC [-]
11:19 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1216 @ 0.001013 = 1.2318 BTC [-]
11:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 763 @ 0.00082529 = 0.6297 BTC [-]
11:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6187 @ 0.00082518 = 5.1054 BTC [-]
11:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.044979 = 0.09 BTC [+]
11:21 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 6 @ 0.015021 = 0.0901 BTC [+]
11:22 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.65 BTC [-]
11:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0475 = 0.095 BTC [+]
11:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 4.66 = 23.3 BTC [+]
11:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.0475 = 0.8075 BTC [+]
11:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.0475 = 0.5225 BTC [+]
11:24 thestringpuller nigga not nigger da fuck is wrong wit u
11:24 thestringpuller come on mang
11:24 mjr_ hi guys
11:24 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.65 BTC [-]
11:24 mjr_ does anyone have bugpowders spreadsheet?
11:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.65 = 13.95 BTC [-]
11:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.65 = 18.6 BTC [-]
11:27 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.66 BTC [+]
11:27 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.65 = 13.95 BTC [-]
11:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 61 @ 0.044979 = 2.7437 BTC [+]
11:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.66 = 18.64 BTC [+]
11:30 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.002348 = 0.007 BTC [+]
11:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.7 BTC [+]
11:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.047001 = 2.3501 BTC [-]
11:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.04691 BTC [-]
11:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0469 = 0.2345 BTC [-]
11:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0465 = 0.093 BTC [-]
11:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0451 = 0.2706 BTC [-]
11:32 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.0475 = 0.8075 BTC [+]
11:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.044969 = 0.4497 BTC [-]
11:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0451 = 0.1353 BTC [-]
11:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.7 = 9.4 BTC [+]
11:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.044979 = 0.09 BTC [+]
11:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 123 @ 0.04498 = 5.5325 BTC [+]
11:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.04499 = 0.4949 BTC [+]
11:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0475 = 0.285 BTC [+]
11:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 28 @ 0.044969 = 1.2591 BTC [-]
11:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.043518 = 2.1759 BTC [-]
11:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04351101 BTC [-]
11:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04351 = 0.1305 BTC [-]
11:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 17 @ 0.04329 = 0.7359 BTC [-]
11:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.04251188 = 2.1256 BTC [-]
11:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 151 @ 0.042501 = 6.4177 BTC [-]
11:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10582 @ 0.00082595 = 8.7402 BTC [+]
11:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.0451 = 1.0373 BTC [-]
11:49 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.046999 = 1.175 BTC [+]
11:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.044 = 0.572 BTC [+]
11:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04499 = 0.4499 BTC [+]
11:51 mircea_popescu mjr : prolly bugpowder.
11:52 mircea_popescu davout when did froggies become aryans ?!
11:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.04499 = 0.5849 BTC [+]
11:55 davout mircea_popescu: when they started giving away all these flyers for this bike race
11:56 mircea_popescu o i c
11:56 mircea_popescu lol
11:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.716 = 9.432 BTC [+]
11:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.71699 BTC [+]
11:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.718 = 9.436 BTC [+]
11:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.046999 = 1.175 BTC [+]
11:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.047 = 2.35 BTC [+]
11:59 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 40 @ 0.001129 = 0.0452 BTC [+]
11:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.729 BTC [+]
11:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.729 = 18.916 BTC [+]
12:00 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.04699 BTC [-]
12:04 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.04699 = 0.094 BTC [-]
12:04 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.046501 = 0.279 BTC [-]
12:05 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.019999 = 0.2 BTC [-]
12:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.7 BTC [-]
12:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.680002 BTC [-]
12:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.672 = 9.344 BTC [-]
12:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.650001 = 32.55 BTC [-]
12:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.65 = 9.3 BTC [-]
12:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.64 = 13.92 BTC [-]
12:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.6 = 18.4 BTC [-]
12:06 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
12:06 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.10900, Best ask: 92.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19100, Last trade: 92.32447, 24 hour volume: 19500.36827999, 24 hour low: 91.68100, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 94.55811
12:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.046501 = 1.2555 BTC [-]
12:07 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.001015 BTC [-]
12:07 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 6 @ 0.001014 = 0.0061 BTC [-]
12:07 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 4 @ 0.001013 = 0.0041 BTC [-]
12:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.046501 = 0.093 BTC [-]
12:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.046501 = 0.6975 BTC [-]
12:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.046501 = 0.1395 BTC [-]
12:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.046501 = 0.279 BTC [-]
12:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 66 @ 0.046501 = 3.0691 BTC [-]
12:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.04699 = 0.5639 BTC [+]
12:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.04699 = 0.2819 BTC [+]
12:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.04699 = 0.188 BTC [+]
12:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.0449889 = 0.5849 BTC [-]
12:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 71 @ 0.0449899 = 3.1943 BTC [+]
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.044988 BTC [-]
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 24 @ 0.04499 = 1.0798 BTC [+]
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.04499 = 0.5399 BTC [+]
12:16 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.186899 BTC [+]
12:17 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 43 @ 0.002348 = 0.101 BTC [+]
12:18 ThickAsThieves I noticed Chaang-Noi disappeared ever since his buddy Garr255 got caught socking
12:18 ThickAsThieves ;;seen chaang-noi
12:18 gribble chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 23 hours, 36 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <Chaang-Noi> yeah mp, you are getting trolled here
12:19 mircea_popescu it's probably more related to gold/silver getting fucked.
12:19 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 5 @ 0.0051 = 0.0255 BTC [-]
12:20 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 50 @ 0.001125 = 0.0563 BTC [+]
12:20 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.005 = 0.01 BTC [-]
12:20 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.046989 BTC [-]
12:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.699999 BTC [+]
12:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 25 @ 0.0051 = 0.1275 BTC [+]
12:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04314203 = 0.1294 BTC [-]
12:23 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 5 @ 0.001013 = 0.0051 BTC [-]
12:23 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 429 @ 0.001012 = 0.4341 BTC [-]
12:23 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1024 @ 0.00101 = 1.0342 BTC [-]
12:24 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1402 @ 0.001149 = 1.6109 BTC [+]
12:24 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 500 @ 0.00115 = 0.575 BTC [+]
12:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.61 = 13.83 BTC [-]
12:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.605002 BTC [-]
12:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.605002 = 18.42 BTC [-]
12:26 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.19999 = 1.9999 BTC [+]
12:27 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.186899 BTC [+]
12:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.043156 = 0.2589 BTC [+]
12:27 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2984 @ 0.00115 = 3.4316 BTC [+]
12:27 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.699998 = 18.8 BTC [+]
12:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.046989 = 0.4699 BTC [-]
12:28 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.186999 = 0.374 BTC [+]
12:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04316 BTC [+]
12:29 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 114 @ 0.00115 = 0.1311 BTC [+]
12:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.04316 = 0.5611 BTC [+]
12:30 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.186999 BTC [+]
12:31 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 1 @ 0.029989 BTC [+]
12:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5213 @ 0.00082518 = 4.3017 BTC [-]
12:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1377 @ 0.00082512 = 1.1362 BTC [-]
12:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.046989 = 0.188 BTC [-]
12:35 mjr_ whats the equation for puts again?
12:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.679998 BTC [-]
12:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 12 @ 0.289 = 3.468 BTC [-]
12:48 mjr_ is jurov here?
12:51 mircea_popescu mjr_ which one you mean ?
12:52 mjr_ was trying to graph the function
12:52 mjr_ but couldn't remember the put equation
12:52 mjr_ call is what... y = (x-strike)/strike ?
12:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.04452899 = 0.4008 BTC [+]
12:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04452999 BTC [+]
12:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.046989 = 0.188 BTC [-]
12:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.046989 = 0.094 BTC [-]
12:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.0449 = 1.1225 BTC [+]
12:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04499 = 0.4499 BTC [+]
12:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.04499 = 1.3497 BTC [+]
12:54 mircea_popescu yeah
12:55 mjr_ so put would be...
12:55 mircea_popescu and (strike-x)/strike
12:55 mircea_popescu but they are all capped at 0. positive only.
12:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.04499 = 0.18 BTC [+]
12:55 mjr_ yeah so its abs value of the difference between strike and current
12:55 mjr_ or should i say, 24hvwap
12:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 68 @ 0.0465 = 3.162 BTC [-]
12:57 mircea_popescu yea
12:57 mircea_popescu no.
12:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.68 BTC [+]
12:57 mircea_popescu abs (2-4) is 2 whereas the proper value is 0.
12:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 6 @ 0.005092 = 0.0306 BTC [-]
12:58 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.7 = 18.8 BTC [+]
12:58 mjr_ ah good point
12:59 imsaguy wtf would you know about proper?
12:59 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0469 = 0.0938 BTC [+]
13:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04498999 = 0.135 BTC [-]
13:00 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1150 @ 0.0011 = 1.265 BTC [-]
13:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 4.7 = 23.5 BTC [+]
13:06 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 117 @ 0.009999 = 1.1699 BTC [+]
13:06 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.009999 = 0.04 BTC [+]
13:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.00509 = 0.0102 BTC [-]
13:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.7 BTC [+]
13:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.73 BTC [+]
13:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 4.739 = 28.434 BTC [+]
13:12 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: you still around?
13:12 mircea_popescu yes
13:12 mircea_popescu imsaguy dun hate >D
13:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.0466 = 0.9786 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.66 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.6061 = 9.2122 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.57 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 4.56 = 95.76 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.555 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 4.5542 = 63.7588 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 65 @ 4.554 = 296.01 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.54505 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.54505 BTC [-]
13:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0465 = 0.093 BTC [-]
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0465 = 0.372 BTC [-]
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.046 = 0.46 BTC [-]
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0459 = 0.6885 BTC [-]
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.0456 = 4.56 BTC [-]
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0456 = 0.1368 BTC [-]
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.04525 = 0.1358 BTC [-]
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.045003 = 0.45 BTC [-]
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.045003 = 0.09 BTC [-]
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 193 @ 0.045 = 8.685 BTC [-]
13:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 22 @ 0.0449 = 0.9878 BTC [-]
13:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1323 @ 0.00082512 = 1.0916 BTC [-]
13:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1827 @ 0.00082475 = 1.5068 BTC [-]
13:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04460005 = 0.1338 BTC [-]
13:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 45 @ 0.04460001 = 2.007 BTC [-]
13:19 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: okay so when money is deposited into the tentative game
13:19 thestringpuller it creates drops/loot/items/shit in general
13:19 thestringpuller okay so my question is you will withdraw from this pool?
13:20 thestringpuller to pay niggas?
13:20 thestringpuller niggas being developers staff in general
13:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0449 = 0.4041 BTC [+]
13:22 mircea_popescu nope.
13:22 mircea_popescu . The value of destroyed items (such as principally food, which will be required for all players) will instead cover game development and operational costs.
13:23 mircea_popescu it's right in there you know, the 2nd paragraph of point i
13:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 26 @ 0.04460001 = 1.1596 BTC [-]
13:24 mircea_popescu ;;getrating BTC0xygen
13:24 gribble This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
13:24 mircea_popescu ;;getrating BTCOxygen
13:24 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User BTCOxygen, rated since Sun Mar 10 13:32:15 2013. Cumulative rating 51, from 24 total ratings. Received ratings: 22 positive, 2 negative. Sent ratings: 22 positive, 2 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=BTCOxygen
13:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 600 @ 0.045 = 27 BTC [-]
13:25 mjr_ where can i read about it?
13:25 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 110 @ 0.049418 = 5.436 BTC [-]
13:25 mircea_popescu if you mean the rpg, here http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/statements-regarding-the-mmorpg-under-development-i-v/
13:26 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: okay so there is a "subscription" cost?
13:26 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.04381 = 0.6572 BTC [-]
13:27 jborkl I would steer clear aof said user IMO
13:27 jborkl of
13:27 thestringpuller you've solved entropa's cash flow problem
13:27 mircea_popescu there's a sort-of subscription cost.
13:27 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.46 BTC [-]
13:27 thestringpuller well the cashflow comes from users having to "live" aka food
13:27 mircea_popescu jborkl notably actually there's two of them here, one with an o one with a 0
13:28 mircea_popescu yes thestringpuller.
13:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.043811 = 1.3143 BTC [+]
13:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.04381 = 0.3067 BTC [-]
13:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.043803 = 1.4017 BTC [-]
13:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.043802 = 0.876 BTC [-]
13:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.043501 = 0.87 BTC [-]
13:28 thestringpuller entropa's problem was that there was no cashflow
13:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.043 = 0.258 BTC [-]
13:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042801 BTC [-]
13:28 thestringpuller people dumped money into the pool
13:28 mircea_popescu the catch is that higher powered players will probably want the higher powered effects of food, and thus subscription for leet ppl will be higher than subscriotion for noobs.
13:28 thestringpuller but there was no "flow"
13:28 thestringpuller that's a little scandalous imo
13:29 mircea_popescu whyssat ?
13:29 thestringpuller well first answer this, can you trade for food?
13:29 thestringpuller or moreover
13:29 mircea_popescu yes, you trade and craft it.
13:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.46 = 8.92 BTC [-]
13:30 thestringpuller lemme rephrase
13:30 thestringpuller are there any "unique" destroyable items in the game that are destroyable
13:30 thestringpuller by unique I mean player bound
13:30 thestringpuller as in the player can not relinquish it
13:30 mircea_popescu nope.
13:30 thestringpuller okay then it's not so scandalous
13:30 mircea_popescu there are no bound items in general, that's bullshit/nonsense made by bad designers
13:31 mircea_popescu to try and stem the tide
13:31 mircea_popescu anyway, re food : you can live your entire life on iron rats.
13:31 mircea_popescu it's just if you want tio have a bottle of elven wine or w/e, well... it's gonna cost you more. deal with it or else go back to springwater
13:31 mircea_popescu sorta like irl, you can live on army rations just fine.
13:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.4506 BTC [-]
13:31 thestringpuller that wasn't really my point
13:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.45 = 8.9 BTC [-]
13:32 mircea_popescu ah
13:32 thestringpuller so if you use the emergence to your advantage there could be a n00b that rises to power without depositing any money at all
13:32 mircea_popescu sure.
13:32 thestringpuller which makes it less scandalous imo
13:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.46 BTC [+]
13:33 thestringpuller he trades and uses skill to go from pusherman to godfather
13:33 thestringpuller similar to the anarchy of eve
13:33 mircea_popescu many will try, few will succeed, life moves right on
13:33 thestringpuller well sure
13:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.0449 = 0.3143 BTC [+]
13:33 thestringpuller but the emergence will be your friend you realize this no?
13:33 mjr_ hmmm, so would it be potentially possible to profit by playing?
13:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.04460001 = 0.3568 BTC [-]
13:33 mircea_popescu what you mean by emergence ?
13:33 mircea_popescu mjr_ yes.
13:34 mjr_ very cool
13:34 mjr_ i like this already
13:34 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 3.35 = 33.5 BTC [-]
13:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0449 = 0.3592 BTC [+]
13:34 mircea_popescu it;'s for bitcoin ffs. how else ?
13:34 thestringpuller emergent gameplay is created by the game doing things the designer didn't intend but exists anyways
13:34 thestringpuller eve's anarchy is a textbook example
13:34 thestringpuller it just happens
13:34 mircea_popescu thestringpuller im of a diff philosophy. it's not my job to micromanage the player/make poaths etc.
13:34 mircea_popescu it's my job to crerate a level playing field.
13:35 thestringpuller but that's what I'm getting at
13:35 mircea_popescu right
13:35 thestringpuller you see with emergence the players create their own world so to speak
13:35 mircea_popescu exactly the idea.
13:35 mjr_ that is a great strategy
13:35 thestringpuller that's why Eve remains successful in the face of WoW
13:35 mircea_popescu probably taken to extremes as players will be able to create their own code/gfx etc too
13:35 mircea_popescu course they kinda suck at it so far, but hey.
13:35 mircea_popescu mebbe in time
13:36 thestringpuller you should watch an anime called .hack//sign
13:36 mjr_ if you capture a small portion of WoW players in china it will be a smashing success
13:36 mjr_ and i think you are doing that
13:36 thestringpuller that's pretty much what your game will become
13:36 mjr_ by introducing monetization
13:36 mjr_ i would "recommend" reading REAMDE, it talks a lot about such things and I hope this becomes something like that
13:36 mircea_popescu cool then
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.468 BTC [+]
13:37 thestringpuller what you'll have is stuff appearing in the code you never thought could exist
13:37 imsaguy but will there be blocks out of which we can build things?!?!
13:37 thestringpuller get the fuck out of here imsaguy with that minecraft shit
13:37 mircea_popescu imsaguy the usual. blender. what have you
13:37 mircea_popescu most of the code is open source anyway
13:37 imsaguy will there be zombies?
13:37 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 10 @ 0.029989 = 0.2999 BTC [+]
13:38 thestringpuller get the fuck out of here with that left 4 dead shit imsaguy
13:38 thestringpuller lol
13:38 thestringpuller jkjk
13:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 200 @ 0.045 = 9 BTC [+]
13:38 imsaguy thestringpuller: hey assmuch, there are a lot more games than left4dead that have zombies.
13:38 mircea_popescu so apparently the forum has a hole in it allowing acct hijacks
13:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.045 = 0.18 BTC [+]
13:38 imsaguy assmunch*
13:38 imsaguy mircea_popescu: as expected.
13:38 mircea_popescu imsaguy eventually.
13:39 imsaguy mircea_popescu: as expected (again).
13:39 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: so how will players build things? as imsaguy alluded to, the crafting...
13:39 mircea_popescu most of the game content will depend on the playerbase in-game building towards it.
13:39 mircea_popescu as in finding recipes and whatnot.
13:39 thestringpuller okay but how?
13:39 imsaguy recipes?
13:39 thestringpuller resources in ground?
13:39 imsaguy wtf is this? the foodnetwork game?
13:39 mircea_popescu for one, yes, resources in the ground.
13:39 thestringpuller cooking mama
13:39 mircea_popescu but if you want the nice sword the orcs have either you trade with them
13:39 imsaguy diner dash 2.0
13:40 mircea_popescu or else bash them, steal the swords, copy the design
13:40 imsaguy one does not trade with orcs
13:40 imsaguy the only trading with an orc you do is once its dead.
13:40 mircea_popescu then enjoy being an orc cocksock.
13:40 thestringpuller one does not simply walk into orc-land
13:40 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.045 = 0.765 BTC [+]
13:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.46899 = 8.938 BTC [+]
13:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.46899 BTC [+]
13:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.469 = 8.938 BTC [+]
13:42 thestringpuller so mircea_popescu so resources are finite based on btc flow?
13:42 mircea_popescu yes.
13:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 35 @ 0.0446 = 1.561 BTC [-]
13:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0446 = 0.4014 BTC [-]
13:43 thestringpuller yay there will be cartels!!!!!!
13:43 thestringpuller lol
13:44 thestringpuller so i don't know mircea_popescu if you've played eve
13:44 mircea_popescu well actually, the idea is all towns will be player made/controlled
13:44 thestringpuller but there was this war they had
13:44 mircea_popescu so will be various means of transportation (roads, teleports, what have you)
13:45 thestringpuller yea so mircea_popescu you will have cartels guarenteed
13:45 thestringpuller but this will depend on playerbase
13:45 mircea_popescu thestringpuller i was invited in the beta of eq2 and wow - they came out about the same time
13:45 benkay_ cartels make for more fun
13:45 thestringpuller the more players the more fun
13:45 mircea_popescu they both sucked, imo. quit before they opened for public
13:45 benkay_ try playing eve solo
13:45 thestringpuller lol
13:45 thestringpuller benkay_: Not fun at all
13:45 mircea_popescu esp the eq crafting system was retarded.
13:46 mircea_popescu well the wow too, but from wow i didn't expect anything
13:46 mircea_popescu blizzard never got crafting, fuck the horadrim cube.
13:46 thestringpuller da fuck?
13:46 thestringpuller that's d2
13:46 mircea_popescu so ?
13:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04489999 = 0.1347 BTC [+]
13:46 thestringpuller d2 didn't need no stinkin' crafting
13:46 thestringpuller d2 is crack
13:46 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 2 @ 0.049418 = 0.0988 BTC [-]
13:46 mircea_popescu i don't argue that.
13:46 thestringpuller you play it for 2 hours get your fix and then shake in the corner
13:47 mircea_popescu but if you want to be a d2 crafter... gl lol
13:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 19 @ 0.0449 = 0.8531 BTC [+]
13:52 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 435 @ 0.0011 = 0.4785 BTC [-]
13:53 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.045 = 0.675 BTC [+]
13:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.045 = 0.45 BTC [+]
13:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.045 = 0.315 BTC [+]
13:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 4.5 = 103.5 BTC [+]
14:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9073 @ 0.00082475 = 7.483 BTC [-]
14:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2327 @ 0.00082467 = 1.919 BTC [-]
14:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04489999 = 0.449 BTC [-]
14:06 mircea_popescu s.mg june statement if anyone wants to weigh in on btc accounting standards >> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/smg-june-2013-statement/
14:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.045 BTC [+]
14:11 furuknap ;;nethash
14:11 gribble 168888.580036
14:12 thestringpuller mircea_popescu has anyone besides myself approached you for publishing?
14:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.045 = 0.135 BTC [+]
14:14 mircea_popescu yes.
14:14 davout mircea_popescu: why don't you present the usual assets/liabilities balance sheet in addition to the cash flows and accounts list ?
14:14 thestringpuller nice what will the publishing platform look like?
14:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.04489999 = 0.3592 BTC [-]
14:15 mircea_popescu davout cause i figured this is much shorter, easier to read and easier to comprehend by even moderately literate business ppl.
14:15 mircea_popescu do you think anything gets hurt ?
14:15 mircea_popescu thestringpuller how do you mean ?
14:15 thestringpuller someone brings you game
14:15 thestringpuller it is sellable
14:16 thestringpuller how does S.MG publish?
14:16 thestringpuller you going to go door to door in romania?
14:16 thestringpuller :P
14:16 mircea_popescu depends on the game, really.
14:16 thestringpuller my game for instance a 2d standalone
14:16 mircea_popescu which is frustratingly vague, yes, i know
14:17 thestringpuller i guess we will see next week
14:17 thestringpuller :D
14:17 mircea_popescu hehe k
14:19 thestringpuller lemme ask this
14:19 thestringpuller what is the max cut S.MG would take...
14:19 thestringpuller i know that is negotiable
14:19 thestringpuller but humor me :)
14:19 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.045 = 0.9 BTC [+]
14:20 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 18 @ 0.000864 = 0.0156 BTC [-]
14:20 davout mircea_popescu: i think an assets/liabilities is quite useful, i think it gives a quite synthetic and understandable picture of the situation, it is expected by people who are used to accounting, and is easy enough to understand for anyone who has any business reading financial statements anyway
14:20 mircea_popescu it's negotiable in the following sense. you have a game which we suppose agree took 1k btc to make. if we agree it's sensible i spend 1k btc pushing it then i expect half the revenue.
14:21 mircea_popescu if we agree it makes no sense to spend over 100 btc then i want something like 10%
14:21 thestringpuller but you said you don't like advertising...
14:21 mircea_popescu the numeric application is only there to make the point
14:21 thestringpuller I see
14:21 mircea_popescu what i like makes no difference, this is biznis neh ?
14:21 davout thestringpuller: i tell my friends i don't like fat chicks
14:21 thestringpuller harharharhar
14:21 mircea_popescu davout you perhaps jhave a good point here
14:21 thestringpuller u guise
14:22 thestringpuller but fat chicks are kinda good in bed if they aren't too fat
14:22 thestringpuller "Curvy"
14:22 mircea_popescu davout you figure turn the present "accounts" thing into more of a normal balance ?
14:22 davout mircea_popescu: something that sums to zero is, and has always been the easiest thing to check
14:23 davout mircea_popescu: take your accounts list
14:23 mircea_popescu okay. i kinda have to ditch the start/change/end format then,
14:23 mircea_popescu but i guess that's kind of redundant anyway
14:23 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: your model reminds me of the 80's
14:23 thestringpuller when people would take a floppy
14:23 davout no, because you put it in front of the capital
14:23 mircea_popescu thestringpuller 1880s ?
14:23 thestringpuller and put it up in the local story
14:23 thestringpuller store*
14:23 davout the best is to have it all
14:24 mircea_popescu davout well the best that has it all is the 500 page ifrs
14:24 davout take your accounts list, add a column, toss the capital on the right side, poof, sums to zero
14:24 mircea_popescu i don't think 500 page reports are actually useful in btc atm
14:24 mircea_popescu hm
14:24 davout mircea_popescu: when did my additional table turn into 500 pages ? :-)
14:25 mircea_popescu may i bitch ?
14:25 davout mircea_popescu: don't you already pay someone for this ?
14:25 davout mircea_popescu: man up and send her
14:25 davout XD
14:25 davout okay, be my guest
14:25 thestringpuller she doesn't like IRC
14:25 thestringpuller she's afraid of real time interaction
14:25 thestringpuller cause all the nerds will try to get in her pants
14:25 davout thestringpuller: they all bleed a bit the first time you know
14:25 thestringpuller yup
14:27 mircea_popescu davout http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/smg-june-2013-statement/
14:27 mircea_popescu how do you like that ?
14:27 thestringpuller unbeknownst to us MPOE-PR is eavesdropping here
14:27 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: you made me use a credit to refresh the page
14:27 thestringpuller come on
14:27 thestringpuller ol
14:27 thestringpuller lol
14:27 thestringpuller jkjk
14:27 mircea_popescu as they say in washington dc,
14:27 mircea_popescu fuck you, pay me.
14:28 davout mircea_popescu: i am pleased
14:28 mircea_popescu do you perhaps want me to add charges for the warrants too ?
14:28 davout mircea_popescu: i'm more used to have it presented in two different columns but the info is here
14:28 davout btw is there any difference between "shareholders equity" and "capital" or are they synonyms ?
14:29 mircea_popescu ya well, i can't make 12 columns as i don't want to turn my blog into an aicraft carrier
14:29 mircea_popescu not synonims, no
14:29 davout mircea_popescu: yea, that was just me whining
14:29 mircea_popescu but no difference either.
14:29 mircea_popescu capital is usually short for operating capital
14:30 davout the way i define capital is "the debt to the shareholders"
14:30 mircea_popescu that's nonsense, as the shareholders aren't owed any btc.
14:30 davout operating capital would be something else by me, but that might just be my english
14:30 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 19 @ 0.029989 = 0.5698 BTC [+]
14:31 davout capital is a liability to the shareholders
14:31 mircea_popescu yes it is
14:31 davout so ? what are we arguing?
14:31 mircea_popescu but an equitable point, rather than an owed debt
14:31 mircea_popescu we're aguing incredibly fine points of legalese.
14:31 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 50 @ 0.0291 = 1.455 BTC [-]
14:31 davout mircea_popescu: i'm getting hard, let's go on
14:32 mircea_popescu basically the shareholders have no title claim to the capital they put in
14:32 mircea_popescu but merely an equitable claim
14:32 mircea_popescu in the simplest translation of common law that even a napoleonic lout might get, they don't have tyhe right to THAT capital. just to something equivalent, as practicable.
14:32 mircea_popescu the distinction comes fromwhether you can claim to be given THE lost sheep, or A sheep in place of THE sheep.
14:32 davout i'm not sure of the nuance you're making here but if it's something saying that the shareholder can't simply knock on the door and get the nominal value of his share paid to him then i agree :-)
14:33 mircea_popescu something like that yes.
14:33 davout word
14:33 mircea_popescu it has plenty of implications.
14:33 davout i'm not really sure about what you said earlier about the warrants
14:33 davout yea, it's not "debt", guess i misused the word :-)
14:33 mircea_popescu technically speaking they should be in the accounts as they're a materially different situation than simply not existing
14:33 davout the warrants ?
14:34 mircea_popescu exactly HOW you account for outstanding warrants however...
14:34 davout i need to re-read how they are defined
14:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.045 = 0.27 BTC [+]
14:34 mircea_popescu right to acquire shares at specified price after specified date.
14:34 davout like a stock option, right ?
14:35 mircea_popescu exactly.
14:35 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1000 @ 0.00103 = 1.03 BTC [-]
14:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.550006 = 13.65 BTC [+]
14:36 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 230 @ 0.00101 = 0.2323 BTC [-]
14:37 davout very good question
14:37 mircea_popescu ty ty
14:37 davout is there any form of risk associated for MG ?
14:37 mircea_popescu yes. for instance, it could suck.
14:38 davout no, i mean, will the shares be created out of thin air ?
14:38 davout or will they be bought
14:38 davout ?
14:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.51 BTC [-]
14:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.5 = 9 BTC [-]
14:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.5 = 18 BTC [-]
14:38 mircea_popescu bought at the price. having a warrant for 1 share at 1 btc means you pay 1 btc get the share
14:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.599951 = 13.7999 BTC [+]
14:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.045 = 0.225 BTC [+]
14:38 mircea_popescu the only catch is that the par value of that share by then MAY be higher
14:38 davout that's not what I mean
14:39 davout will the shares be summoned into existence by MG or will MG buy the shares at market price and resell them to the holders of a warrant at the agreed-upon price ?
14:39 mircea_popescu the former.
14:39 mircea_popescu basically, the us govt bonds are in fact us govt stock warrants
14:39 davout ok, so there's zero risk for MG
14:39 mircea_popescu whenever they come due they just issue more dollarsd and pay
14:39 davout let's not get into this right now
14:39 mircea_popescu ok :)
14:39 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 72 @ 0.00107 = 0.077 BTC [+]
14:40 davout there's zero risk for MG, the ones actually bearing a risk are the shareholders, not MG
14:40 davout there's really nothing to provision
14:40 mircea_popescu there may be nothing to provision in that perspective, however,
14:40 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2 @ 0.00107 = 0.0021 BTC [+]
14:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.04489999 = 0.1796 BTC [-]
14:40 mircea_popescu it could be argued that a company with issued sws is worth less than the same w/o having issued them
14:41 mircea_popescu this has to be accounted as this is the point of accountingh
14:41 davout just account for it as exceptional revenue when it comes in, if it does, any loss relative to the par market price will be borne by shareholders getting diluted at a bargain
14:41 mircea_popescu that yes.
14:42 davout mircea_popescu: it doesn't have to be accounted for per-se, but the warrants list has to come with the financial statements, because as you said it is something that needs to be taken into account to get a full picture of the company
14:42 mircea_popescu anyway. i did include a disclosure, so.
14:42 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.00107 BTC [+]
14:42 mircea_popescu right.
14:42 davout which is good, the contrary wouldn't have been right
14:43 davout it starts getting fun when you think that management might want to cover the "unfair" dilution risk by hedging the warrants using inside information
14:43 davout especially if said management holds shares :-)
14:43 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 14 @ 0.19999 = 2.7999 BTC [+]
14:44 mircea_popescu management holds a shitton of warrants in the first place
14:44 davout lol
14:44 mircea_popescu which kinda hedges the entire thing
14:44 mircea_popescu well... one of the advantages of management getting ssws in the first place.
14:44 davout you lost me here
14:45 davout is the motivation to get a god deal on them
14:45 mircea_popescu well, play out an example for me.
14:45 davout YOU lost me
14:45 davout YOU play an example
14:45 davout just one question
14:46 mircea_popescu ok. company A has 100 shares issued, of which managwement owns 10. company A has 100 shares issued as sws to mnanagement
14:46 mircea_popescu now what's management to hedge re its 10 issued shares ?
14:46 davout why would it want to hedge them against getting diluted since it also owns 10x more warrants ?
14:47 mircea_popescu exactly.
14:47 davout (and i read that correctly on the MG statement, you have as much outstanding warrants than issued shares, right?)
14:47 mircea_popescu so the issuing of sws to managemend hedges against this situation you described
14:47 mircea_popescu as IPO issued yes.
14:48 davout doesn't this somehow equate to the management not really acting in the shareholder's interest ?
14:48 mircea_popescu i imagine exactly the contrary.
14:48 mircea_popescu how do you fiugre ?
14:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 53 @ 0.045 = 2.385 BTC [+]
14:48 davout dunno, it was a legitimate question
14:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04460001 = 0.1338 BTC [-]
14:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 31 @ 0.0446 = 1.3826 BTC [-]
14:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 144 @ 0.044529 = 6.4122 BTC [-]
14:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 104 @ 0.04452899 = 4.631 BTC [-]
14:49 mircea_popescu well, if share value drops management has nothing.
14:49 mircea_popescu if share value doubles management realises half that gain, investors the other half
14:49 davout hmm
14:49 davout guess it requires some additionnal brain crunching here :-)
14:50 davout anyway, i had a question regarding the financial statements
14:50 mircea_popescu simple example : A and B meet to make a fishery. A contributes 100 BTC gets 100 shares, B is going to fish, gets 100 sws at 1.
14:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 55 @ 0.288201 = 15.8511 BTC [-]
14:50 mircea_popescu if at the end the fishery is worth 200 btc,
14:50 mircea_popescu then B brings 100 btc in, gets his 100 shares, and now a 300 btc corp is divided to 200 shares
14:50 mircea_popescu each getting 150 and going home
14:50 davout explained like that it sounds about right :-)
14:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.599938 BTC [-]
14:51 mircea_popescu was the idea anyway
14:51 davout okay, other question
14:51 davout why don't you start amortising (spellt that way) the server right away ?
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14:51 davout (spellt that way?)
14:51 mircea_popescu lol
14:51 davout ugh
14:52 davout bon, pourquoi tu commences pas à l'amortir tout de suite ton serveur ?
14:52 mircea_popescu pque amortissements au fin d'un interval non ?
14:52 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.002348 = 1.174 BTC [+]
14:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 191 @ 0.04452899 = 8.505 BTC [-]
14:53 mircea_popescu actually let's switch back to english, ppl will be trying to translate your frogspeak for no avail
14:54 kakobrekla le sujet est maintenant brouettes
14:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.045 = 0.18 BTC [+]
14:54 davout either you account for them on a monthly basis (which i've never seen, but this is BTC after all) or on a yearly basis, you seem to go for the former, so my question is "why don't you start accounting for an expense of 1/12th of the server value on month #1"
14:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 225 @ 0.045 = 10.125 BTC [+]
14:54 davout also you're amortising on one year IIUC which is quite creative :-)
14:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.55 = 9.1 BTC [-]
14:54 mircea_popescu because i'm of the school that the respective charge belongs in month 2 and is reported in month 2
14:54 davout kakobrekla: la brouette moldave, ma position sexuelle préférée
14:54 mircea_popescu as in, amortisation only after a FULL period
14:55 mircea_popescu if its after a full period it can;'t be reported in the respective period
14:55 kakobrekla lol ok davout
14:55 davout it represents an expense on month #1 too since you probably need it for dev purposes, and it's ok to prorate
14:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.044 = 0.748 BTC [-]
14:56 mircea_popescu i could prorate, i just don't see that i'd have to.
14:56 davout why are you amortising in the first place btw ?
14:56 mircea_popescu because if you liquidate today you have a server worth x
14:56 davout yeah, I'm just asking questions :-)
14:56 mircea_popescu and if you liquidate in 6 months you have a server worth x/2
14:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.044 = 0.264 BTC [-]
14:56 davout yes, whip me
14:56 mircea_popescu lol
14:57 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.001081 = 0.0216 BTC [+]
14:57 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 22 @ 0.00105 = 0.0231 BTC [-]
14:57 davout so then, why one year? i don't know with other countries but in france you usually amortise IT stuff on 3 years, the rest on 5 and buildings on 20
14:57 mircea_popescu cause i got it for a year.
14:58 davout you're getting me confused, did you buy it? for one year?
14:58 mircea_popescu yes ?
14:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.044 = 0.176 BTC [-]
14:59 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.7448 BTC [-]
15:00 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.04301 = 0.6882 BTC [-]
15:00 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 39 @ 0.042801 = 1.6692 BTC [-]
15:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.0428 = 1.0272 BTC [-]
15:01 davout like to me it sounds contradictory, either you rent for a limited time, or you buy and it's yours forevar
15:01 mircea_popescu that sounds a little nutty. what's leasing in this approach ?
15:01 mircea_popescu and what's "forever" mean.
15:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.044 = 1.32 BTC [+]
15:02 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 17 @ 0.186999 = 3.179 BTC [+]
15:02 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.185 = 0.37 BTC [-]
15:02 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 4 @ 0.015021 = 0.0601 BTC [+]
15:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 3.4 = 27.2 BTC [-]
15:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.505 BTC [+]
15:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.045 = 0.315 BTC [+]
15:03 benkay what happens at the end of the year?
15:03 benkay do you have to give box back to another entity?
15:04 davout did you buy the physical box? or did you buy the right to use it for one year, it think that's the question
15:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.51 BTC [+]
15:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 17 @ 0.04488 = 0.763 BTC [+]
15:04 mircea_popescu the later
15:04 davout ok, that's what i call "renting"
15:05 mircea_popescu benkay yeah. because i don't want to be stuck with one year odl boxes.
15:05 mircea_popescu they go on to run shared servers or w/e loosened out boxes do in this life.
15:05 davout to a french person, leasing is like some stuff you do usually with cars where you pay a fat premium the first month, and then rent it
15:05 mircea_popescu actually... they probably end up sold to the government
15:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.545 BTC [+]
15:06 davout so yeah, i don't really understand why you'd amortise something that you do not own
15:06 davout since it's not going to stay in your books as an asset
15:06 mircea_popescu well it is... for a year.
15:06 davout and it's accounted under "tangibles"
15:06 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 60 @ 0.187 = 11.22 BTC [+]
15:07 davout when you have amortised something, that this something reaches a zero accounting value, that means you still own the physical thing
15:07 davout which is consistent with accounting for it under "tangibles"
15:07 mircea_popescu so i have a special knapsack where i keep the 0 value items ?
15:07 davout an item that has a 0 accounting value may still have a shitton of utility value
15:08 davout the proper way to account for this is to write an expense under "IT services"
15:08 mircea_popescu the rationale behind that separation between "tangibles" and "intangibles and goodwill" was that some items have a resale value. these are tangible.
15:08 mircea_popescu some others do not or not necessarily. these are intangible.
15:08 mircea_popescu davout yes it would be, at the cost of making a more extensive account plan than "cash", "type 1" and "type 2"
15:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 160 @ 0.04452899 = 7.1246 BTC [-]
15:09 davout to me tangible is something i can touch, in my understanding IP is intangible yet it can be resold
15:09 davout it might just be a language problem here
15:09 mircea_popescu well arguably you can touch myserver
15:09 davout except it's not yours
15:09 davout you didn't buy it
15:09 mircea_popescu ...
15:09 davout you bought the right to use it for one year
15:10 mircea_popescu well in this sense the house you own is not "yours" as you only have fee simple on it.
15:10 mircea_popescu i own it, under a certain title.
15:10 davout can you resell the box ? no, so what you bought is a service, tracking its accounting value makes no real sense
15:11 benkay at the end of amortization, you don't have a thing to sell for scrap value.
15:11 mircea_popescu yes i can
15:11 mircea_popescu of course i can resell it. it's mine ><
15:11 davout no you can resell the remainder of your one year period
15:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.0047 BTC [-]
15:11 mircea_popescu right
15:11 asciilifeform you don't really own land unless you have 'Infangthief' on it!
15:12 davout the box is not yours, the service is, you can resell the service, but you don't usually amortise IT services like this (which is another way of saying it's horribly wrong)
15:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.044999 = 0.09 BTC [-]
15:12 benkay mp amortizes how he wants yo
15:12 mircea_popescu ok, here's the concept. i spent some BTC.
15:12 mircea_popescu these btc can't be taken as a one time charge, as they reflect a multi-period thing
15:12 mircea_popescu it matches the amortisation just whine what are you whining about!
15:13 davout meh
15:13 mircea_popescu no but i mean, is there something lost ?
15:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00082595 = 2.9734 BTC [+]
15:14 mircea_popescu (i mean it matches the amortisation just fine*)
15:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.044999 = 0.63 BTC [-]
15:14 davout the whole "it can't be taken as a one time charge" is relevant when you use expenses to reduce your net result as a way to reduce your taxes, i don't think it has much relevance in BTC-LAND
15:14 davout whoops
15:14 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 30 @ 0.019999 = 0.6 BTC [-]
15:14 davout anyway, like you said, it doesn't really matter that much
15:15 mircea_popescu well it may grow to matter in time
15:15 davout if I was you I would account it as an expense every month
15:15 mircea_popescu one of the reasons im doing this is to sound out some sort of accounting/reporting scheme for nonzero asset companies
15:15 davout it also depends on whether you already shelled the money out
15:15 mircea_popescu so the poring is much appreciated
15:16 davout i'll sell you a full accounting piece of software
15:16 davout XD
15:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 34 @ 0.044999 = 1.53 BTC [-]
15:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.044999 = 0.27 BTC [-]
15:16 mircea_popescu as to the relevance :it's not just taxes. why should a shareholder that buys now get the benefit of an arbitrary charge for 1 year ?
15:16 davout which i used for accounting at my first startup
15:16 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [-]
15:17 mircea_popescu tyvm. i'm trying to reinvent the wheel deliberately. both gaap and irfs suck.
15:17 davout but how does your way of accounting change that? doesn't the server already exist ?
15:17 mircea_popescu yes, it does already exist
15:17 davout so, i'm not sure what your way of accounting changes
15:18 davout especially since what i'm saying is just : "do the same thing, just use different words"
15:18 mircea_popescu well let's look at it. company has 100 btc. it buys "the right to use a boat for 1 year" for 50.
15:18 mircea_popescu what's the value of the company next month ? 50 + whatever it fished or 50 + whatever it fished + 50 * 11 / 12 ?
15:19 benkay now that makes sense
15:19 mircea_popescu so that's the concept.
15:19 davout i guess latter
15:19 davout yeah, i see where you come from
15:19 mircea_popescu now, i agree this is at least attackable from a "standard accounting" perspective,
15:20 mircea_popescu for a number of reasons. i just don't think they actually work.
15:20 davout i don't know how exactly to express this, but i think that somehow you're trying to get accounting to do something it's not really supposed to
15:21 davout if you paid the hosting fee monthly it wouldn't be an issue at all
15:21 davout as in, we wouldn't have this debate
15:22 mircea_popescu yeah but the shit is, hosting is this complex fucking industry
15:23 mircea_popescu wherein all sorts of weird constrainsts operate. like, nobody wants used gear. everyone wants to own geaer. nobody wants to pay for anything.
15:23 mircea_popescu if i don't guarantee usage the provider won't open new boxes of gear for me.
15:23 mircea_popescu if i do guarantee usage it makes no sense to pretend im paying monthly, and it actually helps his cash flow a ton to pay him upfront
15:23 mircea_popescu etfc.
15:23 davout that's where the MP aura stops I guess :-)
15:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1464 @ 0.00082561 = 1.2087 BTC [-]
15:24 davout well, tbh the way you're accounting for it makes much more sense if explained that way
15:24 davout i may be able to live with it
15:24 davout maybe
15:26 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 9 @ 0.00101 = 0.0091 BTC [-]
15:26 mircea_popescu anyway, next month i'll charge domain names
15:26 mircea_popescu these I OWN
15:26 mircea_popescu and they will amortise over...
15:26 mircea_popescu a year.
15:26 davout does one ever own a domain ?
15:26 mircea_popescu well wtf.
15:26 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044998 BTC [-]
15:26 davout XD
15:26 mircea_popescu yeah. so you know... accounting gotta meet internet at some point.
15:27 davout word
15:27 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.019501 BTC [-]
15:27 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 39 @ 0.019501 = 0.7605 BTC [-]
15:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.044998 = 0.405 BTC [-]
15:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.044999 = 0.36 BTC [+]
15:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7694 @ 0.00082561 = 6.3522 BTC [-]
15:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 315 @ 0.00082467 = 0.2598 BTC [-]
15:30 davout well, i'm off, ttyl all
15:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.044002 = 0.44 BTC [-]
15:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.044001 = 0.572 BTC [-]
15:32 error4738 :davout Bonne chance !
15:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.044999 = 0.225 BTC [+]
15:33 error4738 ;;ticker
15:33 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.10502, Best ask: 89.12999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02497, Last trade: 89.12999, 24 hour volume: 42825.80763141, 24 hour low: 88.75001, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 92.10373
15:33 error4738 ;;bids 0
15:33 gribble There are currently 26202984 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9748770.74663 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0068 seconds
15:33 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 6 @ 0.049418 = 0.2965 BTC [-]
15:34 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.1869 = 0.5607 BTC [-]
15:34 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.187 = 0.561 BTC [+]
15:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.044999 = 0.36 BTC [+]
15:36 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 5 @ 0.0291 = 0.1455 BTC [-]
15:36 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 14 @ 0.029 = 0.406 BTC [-]
15:36 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 23 @ 0.019999 = 0.46 BTC [+]
15:37 error4738 see u soon 100$, you was a good mate !
15:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.509999 = 3.06 BTC [+]
15:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.51 = 5.1 BTC [+]
15:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.515 = 5.15 BTC [+]
15:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.517799 BTC [+]
15:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5178 BTC [+]
15:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5178 BTC [+]
15:42 furuknap ;;next
15:42 gribble Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
15:43 furuknap I would bet it still said "expecting retest of 88"
15:43 furuknap Of course, sooner or later that would be true :-)
15:44 furuknap http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1hfyao/100th_having_problems_delivering_pcb_assembly/ <- They're two weeks delayed...
15:44 benkay i have a bet coming due next monday. btc trading above 70. wasn't concerned at the time of bet, am slightly concerned now.
15:44 benkay that said "concerned" is relative, stakes are several rounds of beer.
15:44 benkay i don't gamble like you crazie
15:44 benkay crazies
15:45 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P101T] 650 @ 0.64936888 = 422.0898 BTC [+]
15:45 furuknap Who are you calling crazy? HELP, THE BANANAS ARE TRYING TO EAT ME! QUICK! GIVE ME THAT TOILET SEAT!
15:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 432 @ 0.0444 = 19.1808 BTC [-]
15:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.505 = 13.515 BTC [-]
15:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.501 BTC [-]
15:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.5 BTC [-]
15:48 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
15:48 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 91.59311, Best ask: 91.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.38689, Last trade: 92.14290, 24 hour volume: 43495.29781796, 24 hour low: 88.75001, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 92.08325
15:48 mircea_popescu !t m ^oix
15:48 assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 61.23802783 / 62.69294856 / 114.42277287 (835 shares, 434.58 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
15:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63 @ 0.00082595 = 0.052 BTC [+]
15:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10688 @ 0.00082661 = 8.8348 BTC [+]
15:48 mircea_popescu for srs.
15:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1911 @ 0.00082698 = 1.5804 BTC [+]
15:50 furuknap I have no idea what you just said, which, I'm sure, is why I don't have an account on MPEx.
15:51 mircea_popescu <D
15:53 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000999 = 0.002 BTC [+]
15:56 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 3 @ 0.0011 = 0.0033 BTC [+]
16:00 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.187 = 0.748 BTC [+]
16:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.044999 = 0.45 BTC [+]
16:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.044999 = 0.225 BTC [+]
16:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0442 BTC [-]
16:01 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 27 @ 0.002348 = 0.0634 BTC [+]
16:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.044999 = 0.72 BTC [+]
16:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 229 @ 0.0442 = 10.1218 BTC [-]
16:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.044 BTC [-]
16:03 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.045 = 1.08 BTC [+]
16:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MG] 4727 @ 0.00016875 = 0.7977 BTC [+]
16:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 90 @ 0.045 = 4.05 BTC [+]
16:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.044 = 0.176 BTC [-]
16:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00082467 = 3.9584 BTC [-]
16:08 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 33 @ 0.002299 = 0.0759 BTC [+]
16:09 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.180003 = 1.8 BTC [-]
16:10 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.180002 = 0.36 BTC [-]
16:10 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 65 @ 0.044 = 2.86 BTC [-]
16:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.045 = 4.5 BTC [+]
16:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 55 @ 0.299999 = 16.4999 BTC [+]
16:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.044 = 0.22 BTC [-]
16:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0442 BTC [+]
16:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.00499 = 0.01 BTC [+]
16:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.187 = 1.87 BTC [+]
16:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.499893 = 13.4997 BTC [-]
16:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.499897 BTC [+]
16:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 138 @ 0.0442 = 6.0996 BTC [+]
16:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04487989 = 0.1346 BTC [+]
16:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.5 = 13.5 BTC [+]
16:21 taub_ price :)
16:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.044998 = 0.45 BTC [-]
16:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.044999 = 0.9 BTC [+]
16:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 4.5 = 27 BTC [+]
16:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.5 BTC [+]
16:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0444 = 0.1776 BTC [-]
16:31 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 3 @ 0.008 = 0.024 BTC [+]
16:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 396 @ 0.0444 = 17.5824 BTC [-]
16:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082478 = 3.3816 BTC [+]
16:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10187 @ 0.00082698 = 8.4244 BTC [+]
16:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00082736 = 2.9785 BTC [+]
16:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0448799 = 4.488 BTC [+]
16:40 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 1 @ 0.02998 BTC [+]
16:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 45 @ 0.04488 = 2.0196 BTC [+]
16:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 88 @ 0.04488 = 3.9494 BTC [+]
16:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04488 = 0.4488 BTC [+]
16:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0449 = 0.449 BTC [+]
16:43 deadweasel just removed a brown recluse from my bedroom. i guess that's a win!
16:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 41 @ 0.04498999 = 1.8446 BTC [+]
16:43 bitcollapse hi guys when are the sdice and bbet dividends due
16:43 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 900 @ 0.0011 = 0.99 BTC [+]
16:44 davout bitcollapse: have you looked on their respective asset pages ?
16:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.0449 = 1.796 BTC [-]
16:45 bitcollapse yes it should be today for sdice?
16:46 bitcollapse ugh, bitcoins exchange infrastructure is collapsing
16:46 davout look again, it seems it has been published
16:46 davout wut?
16:46 bitcollapse alot of exchangers like aurumxchange are out of business
16:46 bitcollapse fastcash4bitcoins
16:47 bitcollapse and bitinstant is now nothing more then a bad paypal it requires absurd ID requirements
16:47 davout bitcollapse: lol
16:47 bitcollapse how come paypal can transmit money and not ask for ID uploads?
16:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.546 BTC [+]
16:47 davout you obviously don't have the slightest clue of what you're talking about...
16:47 bitcollapse explain davout
16:48 bitcollapse bitinstant requires an account now with ID verification
16:48 bitcollapse that just tosses out any bitcoin privacy and makes it worse then a bank
16:48 davout the various laws don't usually give the slightest shit about your privacy
16:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.044899 = 2.1103 BTC [-]
16:49 bitcollapse davout yes but if a bitcoin adress is linked to an ID
16:49 bitcollapse its permanent public information
16:49 davout yet, as an exchange you have to follow them, unless you want to live a quite painful experience
16:49 davout so what ?
16:49 bitcollapse bitinstant isnt an exchange
16:49 bitcollapse why doesnt paypal require ID documents uploaded?
16:49 pigeons they do
16:49 bitcollapse no they dont you can open one with a credit card or bank account
16:50 bitcollapse but they never ask for ID unless its very business specific
16:50 davout bitcollapse: opening an account != keeping an account open
16:50 davout they do
16:50 davout for a very simple reason
16:50 bitcollapse when?
16:50 davout because the law requires them to
16:50 bitcollapse for my paypal they didnt ask anything
16:50 pigeons when you try to use it
16:50 davout your personal experience can hardly be generalized
16:50 bitcollapse ive been using it for years they just verified me with a automated phone call
16:50 pigeons maybe it takes a year, but they will get to it
16:50 bitcollapse ive never had to submit documents to paypal
16:50 davout maybe your not moving that much
16:51 bitcollapse bitinstant doesnt move much either for personal accounts
16:51 bitcollapse they have low max's yet require absurd ID's
16:51 davout and keep in mind that they indirectly ID you since they get the information from your various payment means
16:51 bitcollapse the point is ID's dont work well with bitcoin because adress's are public knowledge
16:51 bitcollapse nobody can see my paypal activity except paypal
16:51 davout bitcollapse: that's a good one
16:51 pigeons and nsa
16:51 bitcollapse sure and government
16:51 bitcollapse but not everyone
16:52 davout bitcollapse: no offense, but you have no idea of what you're talking about
16:52 bitcollapse bitcoin adress linked to ID is even more dangerous
16:52 jcpham hi
16:52 bitcollapse dabout how dont i?
16:52 pigeons bitcollapse: then don't do it
16:52 bitcollapse the anonymous bitcoin exchange methods are crumbling
16:52 bitcollapse hence the price decline going along with it
16:52 pigeons that isnt suprising to anyone
16:52 jcpham pigeons sent me a copy of his ID for safe keeping
16:52 jcpham total trust
16:52 pigeons my feathers look bad in that picture though
16:53 bitcollapse pigeons i like the concept of bitcoin
16:53 bitcollapse but i dont like having an ID linked to a public adress
16:53 pigeons then dont
16:53 bitcollapse where all transactions can be traced extremely easily
16:53 bitcollapse easier then any bank
16:53 mircea_popescu <bitcollapse> and bitinstant is now nothing more then a bad paypal it requires absurd ID requirements <<< details ?
16:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 176 @ 0.0448799 = 7.8989 BTC [-]
16:53 pigeons and its as private as your paypal info, you arent giving that address to anyone but bitinstant
16:53 bitcollapse id ont get why bitcoiners are going along with it
16:53 bitcollapse mircea_popescu: before using bitinstant was easy
16:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 869 @ 0.04499 = 39.0963 BTC [+]
16:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 466 @ 0.045 = 20.97 BTC [+]
16:54 bitcollapse you walked into a walmart and filled out a moneygram form
16:54 pigeons mircea_popescu: http://blog.bitinstant.com/blog/2013/6/30/website-update.html
16:54 bitcollapse now they require an account and all sorts of ID
16:54 davout bitcollapse: open your own exchange, get some experience, then you will understand
16:54 bitcollapse charlie shrem is a sell out
16:54 pigeons bitcollapse: they are going along with it to stay out of jail
16:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.044898 = 0.7633 BTC [-]
16:54 pigeons oh why bitcoins sorry
16:54 bitcollapse why? you dont need to show an ID when you are buying walmart goods
16:54 pigeons i thought you said bitinstant
16:54 mircea_popescu "We have temporarily limited transactions in some locations, and we apologize for the inconvenience. "
16:55 pigeons how do you know bitcoiners are going along with it
16:55 mircea_popescu heh. not list the locations. these people just won't fucking learn what open means already
16:55 pigeons maybe bitinstant will go out of business
16:55 bitcollapse bitcoin is not defined as a financial instrument anywhere
16:55 pigeons comon
16:55 pigeons you know thats silly
16:55 jcpham must be fake
16:55 peterl if it quacks like a duck ...
16:55 bitcollapse if i buy electronics at walmart and trade them for drugs does walmart need to ID me everytime i buy them?
16:55 mircea_popescu that'd be because it's not a financial instrument.
16:56 peterl it must be a pidgeon, right?
16:56 bitcollapse exactly mircea_popescu
16:56 mircea_popescu it's game gold.
16:56 mircea_popescu your DOLLARS however, ARE a financial instrument.
16:56 bitcollapse yes
16:56 bitcollapse but i dont get IDed buying stuff with dollars
16:56 mircea_popescu so stop trying to trade that shit for bitcoin and nobody cares about your id anymore.
16:56 mircea_popescu yes, actually, you do.
16:56 pigeons solved
16:56 mircea_popescu this because dollars are shit.
16:56 bitcollapse when mircea?
16:56 mircea_popescu try getting some cough medicine.
16:56 asciilifeform all this talk of IDs at store counters will seem nostalgically quaint when start needing a working RFID beacon just to pass through public doorways.
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16:56 mircea_popescu or a gun or a car
16:57 mircea_popescu or a house or a hotel stay
16:57 bitcollapse mircea_popescu: when i purchase goods in stores nobody records all my ID info
16:57 mircea_popescu or what-ever-the-fuck-else.
16:57 mircea_popescu yes, they do.
16:57 pigeons cameras on the razor blade isle recording who touches it
16:57 mircea_popescu just because you imagine your life currently works a certain way dun make it so.
16:57 bitcollapse nobody asks for an ID when i bought a car only when i get a license plate
16:57 pigeons hahahahha
16:57 davout lol
16:57 bitcollapse i bought cars privately and nobody IDed me
16:57 mircea_popescu the onl;y time they don't ask for your id when you're using dollars
16:57 pigeons dont get me started on trying to buy a car
16:57 mircea_popescu is if they have it already.
16:58 davout bitcollapse: seriously, i give you 6/10, now go away, i was having a good time
16:58 mircea_popescu this is what dollars are.
16:58 bitcollapse mircea_popescu: nobody IDed me buying electronics.
16:58 bitcollapse bitinstant is treating bitcoin as some sort of advanced highly defined/regulated instrument
16:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform myeah.
16:58 mircea_popescu bitcollapse no dude. buitcoin is treating dollars like the shit they are.
16:58 bitcollapse where are the US laws regarding bitcoin?
16:58 mircea_popescu they didn't use to, on the grounds that maybe they're like bitcoin
16:58 mircea_popescu guess what ? they aren;'t.
16:58 mircea_popescu tada.
16:59 mircea_popescu jesus he just won't get it will he.
16:59 mircea_popescu ITS THE DOLLARS.
16:59 bitcollapse yes i understand
16:59 bitcollapse why arent my gasoline purchases recorded then with an ID
16:59 mircea_popescu there's ~500000000 pages of regulations regarding the dollars.
16:59 davout mircea_popescu: (make it more generic, he'll come back later bitching about EUR exchanges)
16:59 asciilifeform when you use currency minted by an empire, you are buying into its philosophy (if one dare call it that) - like it or not.
16:59 mircea_popescu what, people buy bitcoin for eur now ?!
17:00 bitcollapse mircea_popescu: theres no laws requiring merchants to RECORD ID on EVERY single product.
17:00 mircea_popescu yes, there is.
17:00 bitcollapse produce it
17:00 jcpham not yet
17:00 mircea_popescu ;;google tax code
17:00 gribble Tax Code, Regulations and Official Guidance: <http://www.irs.gov/Tax-Professionals/Tax-Code,-Regulations-and-Official-Guidance>; USC : Title 26 - INTERNAL REVENUE CODE | US Code | LII / Legal: <http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26>; U.S. Tax Code - Fourmilab: <http://www.fourmilab.ch/ustax/ustax.html>
17:00 davout mircea_popescu: not anymore i'm afraid
17:00 bitcollapse ID requirements are clearly defined on high risk purchases ie chemicals
17:00 pigeons recently there was contaminated food sold in my area, so the polic got the records from the supermarket loyalty discount card program to contact potentially affect shoppers
17:00 bitcollapse mircea_popescu: the tax code only requries merchants to keep books and records of sales NOT who they sold too.
17:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.045 = 1.8 BTC [+]
17:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 981 @ 0.044991 = 44.1362 BTC [-]
17:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 22 @ 0.04499 = 0.9898 BTC [-]
17:01 pigeons argue in #bitinstant
17:01 mircea_popescu look. i'm not responsible for your 1915ish notions on regulation.
17:01 davout i'm off, these funny captioned pictures don't just watch themselves
17:01 mircea_popescu davout also try the cock.
17:01 davout wut
17:01 bitcollapse mircea_popescu i think you are somewhat delusional. I can walk into a store and purchase goods with paper cash and nobody will ID me.
17:01 mircea_popescu au vin.
17:01 mircea_popescu well... enjoy it while it lasts, like any other illusion
17:01 bitcollapse theres no regulations specific to bitcoin being a highly sensitive item ie. explosives, drugs etc.
17:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0445 = 0.445 BTC [-]
17:02 mircea_popescu it's the other way around.
17:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.044899 = 0.8082 BTC [+]
17:02 mircea_popescu the regulations are as to the us dollars being useless, not as to bitcoin.
17:02 bitcollapse everyone is applying rules that dont exist to bitcoin
17:02 asciilifeform bitcollapse: think of it more like 'warez'
17:02 mircea_popescu what's with this backwards view all the time
17:02 mircea_popescu dude. THEY ARE NOT BEING APPLIED TO BITCOIN
17:02 mircea_popescu why. why do people do this.
17:02 bitcollapse there are no US dollar regulations mandating the IDing of a user on EVERY transaction.
17:03 mircea_popescu yes, there are. da fuck do you think aml kyc fym stand for ?
17:03 davout bitcollapse: ok, bitinstant are idiots, point made you can leave now :-)
17:03 mircea_popescu well admittedly fym stands for fuck your mother, but the rest.
17:03 bitcollapse those are for financial transactions
17:03 bitcollapse highly DEFINED ones.
17:03 mircea_popescu eys. ie, transactions that involve DOLLARS
17:03 bitcollapse bullshit. you can spend 5k in a walmart and nobody will say anything
17:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.0449 = 1.347 BTC [+]
17:03 asciilifeform the people applying 'rules' are applying their whims, and to your arse, rather than to bitcoin (or whatever else the instrument of your perceived mischief may be.)
17:03 davout bitcollapse: look up stored value, and come back when you have a clue
17:03 bitcollapse KYC applies to financial institutions
17:03 pigeons because you are on camera and bought with your credit card
17:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0444 = 0.444 BTC [-]
17:03 bitcollapse no i bought cash
17:04 bitcollapse and the camera does not ID me.
17:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0445 = 0.4005 BTC [+]
17:04 bitcollapse people are applying laws to bitcoin that do not exist
17:04 mircea_popescu well this was fun but i gotta ignore him now
17:04 asciilifeform so you use cash. if necessary, every camera you walked/drove by on the way to the counter will cough up its footage, to the right people.
17:04 bitcollapse bitcoin is not a legally defined currency or financial instrument
17:04 davout .bait
17:04 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_masgzgiTTu1qhc62mo1_400.jpg
17:04 mircea_popescu that's not 12 get out of here.
17:05 davout haha for a split second i thought kakobrekla disabled the feature
17:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04548998 BTC [+]
17:05 davout i hate boob jobs
17:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.044899 = 0.2694 BTC [+]
17:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.044899 = 0.8082 BTC [+]
17:05 mircea_popescu why ?
17:05 davout the last one i got wasn't that well done
17:05 mircea_popescu you probably also hate shaved mounds. pervs.
17:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04548998 BTC [+]
17:05 davout dunno it looks all fake and stuff
17:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04548998 BTC [+]
17:05 davout shaved is awesome
17:05 mircea_popescu "o it looks fake"
17:06 mircea_popescu btw davout you ever seen les tortillards ?
17:06 davout nan
17:06 davout c'est quoi?
17:06 mircea_popescu there's this scene, famished theatre company (incl two hawt soubrettes) in a train
17:07 mircea_popescu with a bunch of peasants. they keep passing back and forth terrine and jambon and whatnot
17:07 mircea_popescu teh artistes are starving
17:07 mircea_popescu but they don't get any.
17:08 davout so ?
17:08 mircea_popescu so it's sort of like bitcoin.
17:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.585 BTC [+]
17:08 davout proceed
17:09 mircea_popescu jesus gotta explain everything.
17:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0445 BTC [-]
17:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0445 = 0.89 BTC [-]
17:09 kakobrekla jesus is explaining now?
17:09 kakobrekla lets hear it
17:09 mircea_popescu teh presumptious elite (ie, teh artists) got nothing. teh "peasants" actually got the goods.
17:09 mircea_popescu they're passing it back and forth but only among themselves,
17:09 mircea_popescu while teh artistes starve.
17:09 mircea_popescu and talk all about how "bitcoin regulations", happily ignoring the fact that... nope. exactly the reverse.
17:10 davout there is no such thing as "bitcoin" anyway
17:11 davout you were referring to our bitwhatever friend
17:11 davout ?
17:11 mircea_popescu outside of its ability to make people salivate.
17:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00082802 = 2.0701 BTC [+]
17:11 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.92 BTC [+]
17:13 mircea_popescu unrelatedly : http://www.last.fm/music/Cadillac+Face/Stupid+Whore+EP
17:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04408002 = 0.4408 BTC [-]
17:14 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 3 @ 0.00102 = 0.0031 BTC [-]
17:14 davout mircea you're like tintin
17:15 davout so many episodes
17:15 davout mircea makes a game company
17:15 davout mircea creates major
17:15 davout what's next?
17:15 davout mircea in congo?
17:15 mircea_popescu lol
17:15 davout *a major
17:16 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 11 @ 0.00102 = 0.0112 BTC [-]
17:16 mircea_popescu i thought tintin was belge anyway
17:16 davout people have so many misconceptions about the law and what it says and doesn't say
17:16 davout being a french character is for awesome people only
17:17 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1538 @ 0.00101 = 1.5534 BTC [-]
17:18 mircea_popescu like... hm... bourvil ?
17:18 davout lol
17:18 jcpham bitcoin makes me angry today
17:18 mircea_popescu possibly the least awesome person i could think up
17:19 davout jcpham: accusing inanimate objects : weak!
17:19 mircea_popescu ya jcpham it's really the voices, we know.
17:19 davout bourvil is pretty high on the ladder of non-awesomeness
17:19 jcpham i have a fever and can't word it properly
17:19 mircea_popescu what's the only prescription ?
17:19 jcpham bitcoin got dumber over the weekend i'm sure of it
17:19 pigeons asterix & obelix
17:19 jcpham ....can't put my finger on it
17:20 davout jcpham: you go too much on the forums :-)
17:20 mircea_popescu the only prescription is more cuntgel.
17:20 jcpham i haven't been there in ages!
17:20 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.173001 BTC [-]
17:20 jcpham it's reddit now!
17:20 mircea_popescu lol reddit.
17:20 jcpham and it's worse
17:20 davout the idiots of the forums are percolating
17:20 mircea_popescu dude reddit is always infinitely retarded
17:20 mircea_popescu of course it gets worse over any tiem interval.
17:20 pigeons http://qz.com/99413/first-ever-human-head-transplant-is-now-possible-says-neuroscientist/
17:20 davout it can be fun sometimes
17:20 ozbot First-ever human head transplant is now possible, says neuroscientist – Quartz
17:21 jcpham at least the realy chats are intelligent
17:21 davout good, the forums show us that there are plenty available bodies
17:21 mircea_popescu http://pastebin.com/0qjfUCpj
17:21 ozbot assbot did me in the ass, reports ozbot - Pastebin.com
17:21 KRS its possible..but how good could the job be...meh
17:21 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.002299 = 0.023 BTC [+]
17:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 57 @ 0.044501 = 2.5366 BTC [-]
17:22 aknap3 looks like a prank
17:22 mircea_popescu i wonder if you could have a girl's head sewn in backwards so you can kiss her while fucking her in the ass.
17:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.044301 = 1.0189 BTC [-]
17:22 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.173001 = 0.865 BTC [-]
17:22 davout why am i not more shocked by what the romanian says ?
17:23 KRS I'd prolly rather her blow me while I'm eating her ass. I'm an ass man, plus bs's are my fav.
17:23 Stardust cuz you got used to it davout
17:23 mircea_popescu ok, i rephrase. so you can taste her sweet tears while...
17:23 KRS heh nice
17:23 davout KRS: you're a .... scat man ?
17:23 davout badum tsss
17:23 mircea_popescu scaaaat man.
17:23 KRS nooo not scat..no piss/shit just some good starfish
17:23 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cnQCk0u49w
17:23 ozbot Scatman John - Scatman (Ski-Ba-Bop-Ba-Dop-Bop) - YouTube
17:24 KRS oh no now i have to listen to it too..damnit
17:24 KRS this does kinda ride out
17:25 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.173001 = 0.692 BTC [-]
17:25 mircea_popescu 10 fucking years ago we didn't even see the outrageous humour in it
17:26 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.173 = 0.519 BTC [-]
17:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.61 BTC [+]
17:27 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.172 BTC [-]
17:30 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.376056 BTC [-]
17:30 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.376055 BTC [-]
17:31 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.375001 BTC [-]
17:31 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 11 @ 0.375 = 4.125 BTC [-]
17:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.044998 = 0.99 BTC [+]
17:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044998 BTC [+]
17:32 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.375001 BTC [+]
17:32 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.375 BTC [-]
17:33 jborkl mircea_popescu : gyft.com
17:33 jborkl do not know if you have seen that yet
17:33 mircea_popescu what , still ?
17:33 mircea_popescu yea we talked about it a few days ago iirc
17:33 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.372001 BTC [-]
17:33 jborkl oh,nm I have been busy
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.044999 = 0.9 BTC [+]
17:34 jborkl I came back to see KRS talking about eating asshole
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.372001 BTC [-]
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.372 BTC [-]
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.044999 = 1.305 BTC [+]
17:34 jborkl :(
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.044998 = 0.63 BTC [-]
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.044501 = 1.0235 BTC [-]
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0445 = 0.445 BTC [-]
17:34 davout what's the drill with it ? have heard about it but as far as I understand they simply sell gift cards
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.044302 = 1.8164 BTC [-]
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.0443 = 0.9746 BTC [-]
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.0442 = 0.3978 BTC [-]
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.04411 BTC [-]
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.044001 = 0.352 BTC [-]
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0438 = 0.1314 BTC [-]
17:34 davout and somehow use it to trade BTC
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 76 @ 0.0428 = 3.2528 BTC [-]
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.042701 = 0.854 BTC [-]
17:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 71 @ 0.0427 = 3.0317 BTC [-]
17:34 pigeons well since ya'll reccomended reddit, i learned that one of the secret locations bitinstant is not allowing bitcoin purchases from is Boston
17:34 pigeons http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1hgayj/bitinstant_has_cut_off_the_ability_to_buy/
17:34 ozbot BitInstant has cut off the ability to buy bitcoins in certian locations. I am in boston and i was ha
17:34 jborkl it goes direct using bitpay, used a few minutes ago for a CVS card- worked instant
17:35 jborkl already paid CVS
17:35 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 13 @ 0.00102 = 0.0133 BTC [+]
17:35 davout Meanwhile, in France : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6uXGSTfz_4
17:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 14 @ 0.0443 = 0.6202 BTC [+]
17:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.481007 = 31.367 BTC [-]
17:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 4.481 = 35.848 BTC [-]
17:38 mircea_popescu boston eh ?
17:38 mircea_popescu sounds shady.
17:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.481001 BTC [+]
17:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042701 BTC [+]
17:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.0427 = 1.2383 BTC [-]
17:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.0426 = 0.7242 BTC [-]
17:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0425 = 0.425 BTC [-]
17:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0425 = 0.255 BTC [-]
17:40 davout issues with the MSB license in whatev state Boston is in ? REGULATORY PROBLEM OFFICER??
17:40 mircea_popescu kakobrekla http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-june-2013-statement/
17:40 mircea_popescu boston is in mass
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0442 = 0.442 BTC [-]
17:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.48 BTC [-]
17:42 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044898 BTC [+]
17:42 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.00102 = 0.0102 BTC [+]
17:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04545 = 0.4545 BTC [+]
17:46 davout do you guys think there is a market for a bitcoin-space company specializing in IT security related products/consulting?
17:46 pigeons IT security related products are a scam, so probably
17:47 mircea_popescu davout should i find my old article about it or you search on tyour own ?
17:47 davout mircea_popescu: fetch
17:48 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/probably-the-hottest-business-idea-of-the-moment-in-btc/
17:48 KRS btc is only a little more useful than just a money transfer vehicle
17:48 ozbot Probably the hottest business idea of the moment in BTC… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
17:48 mircea_popescu o look! it's from 2012
17:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.044897 = 0.8979 BTC [-]
17:49 davout mircea_popescu: yea, but that's only part of what i was thinking about
17:50 davout mircea_popescu: the rest being an actual non-imaginary product that we're going to use to secure our very own infrastructure
17:50 mircea_popescu so many jabs i could be throwing in here
17:50 davout you gotta start somewhere :-)
17:50 mircea_popescu like... "is it written in ruby ?"
17:51 davout your obsession with ruby is like my obsession with django reinhardt, it's irrelevant and nobody cares about it
17:51 davout next
17:51 mircea_popescu ok, does it use secret urls ?
17:52 davout none
17:52 mircea_popescu is it a partnership with some french company ?
17:52 davout haha fuck you, no it's a product, a good question
17:52 davout would be
17:52 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: so you did it already?
17:52 davout "what does it do ?"
17:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform did who ?
17:53 mircea_popescu davout i know the answer to that one
17:53 mircea_popescu it starts with no and it ends with thing!
17:53 davout blurb
17:54 mircea_popescu dude srsly. automated security ? what is this, star trek ?
17:54 davout you're mean popescu, i'm taking my toys and i'm going home
17:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8081 @ 0.00082774 = 6.689 BTC [-]
17:54 asciilifeform the proper way to run btc services. fully history-free software/hardware stack.
17:54 davout it isn't finished anyway
17:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no dude. i'm just entertaining a frenchman with bad food poisoning
17:54 mircea_popescu he ate oysters a la parisienne in a scottish pub
17:54 davout i never said it was automated
17:54 mircea_popescu well then how's it a product ?
17:55 davout i guess i'll just have to show it when it's finished
17:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.044895 = 0.5387 BTC [-]
17:55 asciilifeform I, for one, sure as hell wouldn't put $100M of BTC on silicon I didn't design (or at least control the design of.)
17:55 mircea_popescu but why rob us of all the fun meanwhile ?
17:55 davout okay, it's written in ruby HAPPY NOW ??
17:55 davout :D
17:55 mircea_popescu aaaaahahaha
17:55 mircea_popescu i knew it.
17:55 mircea_popescu dude, ruby doesn't work. srsly.
17:56 mircea_popescu it's like... for girls.
17:56 davout was ruby mean to you in some way ?
17:56 mircea_popescu yes it killed my pony
17:56 davout that's what I thought
17:56 mircea_popescu but getting back on track, so i buy your product. now what.
17:57 davout i'll tease you a bit
17:57 davout it can optionnally rely on GPG
17:57 mircea_popescu so can telnet.
17:57 davout basically it'll audit your shit, and report on it
17:57 mircea_popescu but not automatically ?
17:58 davout it will audit automatically if you plug it as a hidden replication slave on your DB
17:58 davout or you can do it manually offline by feeding SQL dumps
17:58 mircea_popescu why is it auditing your db ?
17:59 davout because you can set custom rules for it, like check that incoming transactions actually exist on the bitcoin network
17:59 davout that rows for previous records have not been changed
17:59 asciilifeform isn't that what bitcoind is for?
17:59 davout no
17:59 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.044699 = 0.9834 BTC [-]
18:00 asciilifeform why use a second db whose functionality boils down to that of the blockchain?
18:00 mircea_popescu so basically the security comes from using two separate machines
18:00 davout asciilifeform: that's one of the possibilities
18:00 mircea_popescu and it's unlikely an attacker will get tio mess with both
18:01 davout mircea_popescu: no, the security boils down to "unless an attacker can simultaneously fuck with X auditors he can't do shit"
18:01 asciilifeform anyone can get this functionality for free just by running the normal blockchain in several places.
18:01 mircea_popescu where x = your server + the machine you're running davoutd on
18:01 mircea_popescu = 2
18:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that was my next q, why not just run your code both places as is
18:01 asciilifeform (and hardcode them as nodes into your ordinary bitcoind.)
18:02 davout in my personal case it's going to be one server, a couple of online auditors, and one offline instance that gets DB backups manually fed to
18:02 asciilifeform seems like somebody's intent on selling 'old wine in new bottles.' par for the course in the idiot 'enterprise software' industry.
18:02 davout asciilifeform: this has absolutely nothing to do with bitcoind
18:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.0454 = 0.681 BTC [-]
18:03 mircea_popescu davout what if there's a blockchain split ?
18:03 davout mircea_popescu: it doesn't really help to run your code in both places since what your code does is it runs your app, it doesn't continuously check for someone fucking with your data
18:04 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: then both (all) of his bitcoind-with-serial-filed-off will be chumped
18:04 mircea_popescu davout well how do you know my app isn't checking data
18:04 mircea_popescu and who writes apps that don't check.
18:05 mircea_popescu not to say your thing is necessarily useless, but i'd guess it's a part of what i linked rather than the other way around ya know ? :D
18:05 davout mircea_popescu: blockchain split is irrelevant as your incoming transactions are either accepted, or confirmed, but in the case the confirmations count for a given tx was reduced you'd be notified since the field would be defined as "allowed to change only for a bigger integer"
18:06 mircea_popescu no dude. i mean an unhealed, enduring split like we had in march.
18:07 mircea_popescu where people keep feeding you one-chain transactions and then request returns which you process as both-chains transactions
18:07 davout mircea_popescu: i'm not saying the contrary, believe it or not but i think your security model makes a shitton of sense and i'm trying to find a way to get the best of it while not sacrificing convenience too much either
18:07 mircea_popescu and then end up with a lot of single-chain useless coins presumably.
18:07 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 12 @ 0.372 = 4.464 BTC [-]
18:07 davout mircea_popescu: it's just software, it doesn't do magic, so if the devs decide to throw the table over there's only so much it can do
18:08 davout ok, take it one step further now
18:08 davout imagine that each user gets an ECDSA keypair when signing up for a service
18:09 davout (that he can have automatically generated client-side, or generate himself that's not really the question)
18:09 mircea_popescu yea...
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.310001 BTC [-]
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [-]
18:10 davout i'm going to stop right here, you know where i'm going
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1984 BTC [-]
18:10 mircea_popescu you're going to "imagine we use gpg to sign transactions on the client side so even if the attacker gets your server there's jack shit he can do as he can't enter arbitrary txs" ?
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0435 = 0.174 BTC [-]
18:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.043112 = 0.9054 BTC [-]
18:11 davout i enjoy delegating to romanians
18:11 mircea_popescu lol
18:11 davout yes, obviously you see the flaws too
18:11 davout but that's just one of the solutions
18:12 mircea_popescu well i guess we'll have to see this deployed.
18:12 davout which kind of equates to copying mpex in a sorta degenerated fashion
18:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.48 BTC [-]
18:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.4765 BTC [-]
18:12 mircea_popescu it's there to be copied.
18:12 davout well, find someone else :-)
18:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.4 = 9.6 BTC [-]
18:12 mircea_popescu lol
18:12 mircea_popescu my next words were
18:12 davout i was thinking of something different actually
18:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.599999 BTC [+]
18:13 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 861 @ 0.00101 = 0.8696 BTC [-]
18:13 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 246 @ 0.00101 = 0.2485 BTC [-]
18:13 davout proceed
18:13 mircea_popescu "the problem is teh "bitcoin experts" aren't smart enough to figure it out"
18:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 4.472 = 76.024 BTC [-]
18:13 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.019501 = 0.195 BTC [-]
18:13 asciilifeform those who refuse to understand bitcoin are doomed to re-implement it.
18:13 asciilifeform poorly.
18:13 davout what aren't they smart enough to figure out ? your model ? or how to copy it ?
18:14 davout my solution revolved more around email confirmation
18:14 mircea_popescu davout for instance that you can't use websites for btc.
18:14 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.002101 = 0.2101 BTC [-]
18:14 mircea_popescu ha! email confirmations are so 2011 mpoe you know
18:14 mircea_popescu shit's a hassle to handle.
18:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 28 @ 4.472 = 125.216 BTC [-]
18:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 4.46 = 35.68 BTC [-]
18:14 davout well, the idea was to have auditors generate the confirmation codes
18:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 3 = 18 BTC [-]
18:15 davout resulting in the same "webserver hacked? zero fucks given" kind of result
18:15 mircea_popescu davout may work, as lo9ng as the auditors are trustable.
18:15 davout one auditor will get hacked eventually
18:16 davout it's however very very unlikely that all be hacked simultaneously
18:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.0047 BTC [-]
18:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 16 @ 0.00433 = 0.0693 BTC [-]
18:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 288 @ 0.00432 = 1.2442 BTC [-]
18:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 36 @ 0.004319 = 0.1555 BTC [-]
18:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 5 @ 0.004301 = 0.0215 BTC [-]
18:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 11 @ 0.0043 = 0.0473 BTC [-]
18:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 15 @ 0.0043 = 0.0645 BTC [-]
18:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 120 @ 0.004281 = 0.5137 BTC [-]
18:16 davout especially if one is on the raspberry pi that I hide in my dirty laundry
18:16 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 9 @ 0.2 = 1.8 BTC [+]
18:16 mircea_popescu i can imagien nobody'd ever go in there.
18:17 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.044 = 1.188 BTC [+]
18:17 davout so I'm going to scratch my own itch here first and see i that works and if it's practical
18:18 mircea_popescu yeah. prolly the right way ahead.
18:18 davout we're dropping the hot wallet stuff for the time being and will only send funds if all auditors agree
18:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.45015 BTC [+]
18:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.450101 BTC [-]
18:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 4.45 = 35.6 BTC [-]
18:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.405 = 8.81 BTC [-]
18:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.4001 = 8.8002 BTC [-]
18:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 4.4 = 39.6 BTC [-]
18:18 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 12 @ 0.00102 = 0.0122 BTC [+]
18:18 mircea_popescu aww i thought that amc thing was supposed to be 25 or some shit
18:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.450151 BTC [+]
18:19 ThickAsThieves it's "on sale"
18:20 mircea_popescu a a ok
18:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 234 @ 0.004003 = 0.9367 BTC [-]
18:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 5 @ 0.004002 = 0.02 BTC [-]
18:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 15 @ 0.004 = 0.06 BTC [-]
18:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 18 @ 0.004 = 0.072 BTC [-]
18:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1000 @ 0.0039 = 3.9 BTC [-]
18:24 Namworld Bitfunder became the new GLBSE.
18:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044 BTC [+]
18:25 ThickAsThieves what hapnd this time?
18:25 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 9 @ 0.00101 = 0.0091 BTC [-]
18:26 Namworld People who do weird stuff and etc
18:27 Stardust how weird ?
18:29 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
18:29 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.80279, Best ask: 88.83000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02721, Last trade: 88.83000, 24 hour volume: 47550.96313601, 24 hour low: 88.10000, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 91.71002
18:29 Namworld Well no, if it happened on GLBSE... it's ought to happen again elsewhere.
18:30 ThickAsThieves ;;bcstats
18:30 gribble Current Blocks: 244305 | Current Difficulty: 2.1335329113983E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 245951 | Next Difficulty In: 1646 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 21 hours, 36 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 23464900.6671 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.98143
18:30 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1750 @ 0.00101 = 1.7675 BTC [-]
18:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044 BTC [+]
18:36 davout big news @gox
18:36 davout they released their magento plugin update
18:36 davout woohoo
18:37 Stardust davout, do you mind clarifying what you mean by "auditors" in your security scheme ?
18:37 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.00101 = 0.0101 BTC [-]
18:40 davout Stardust: a system designed to monitor a defined data-set in order to : ensure data integrity, enforce arbitrary business rules on it, ensure data stability over time, issue customizable alerts, generate customizable reporting and authenticate to operators using public key cryptography
18:41 Stardust thanks
18:41 davout basically it looks at your data to make sure nobody is fucking with it, that the incoming bitcoin transactions actually match your available addresses, and send you GPG-signed e-mails to report on all this
18:42 davout the rationale behind the scheme being that you may be able to compromise a web server
18:43 davout compromise the database server behind it, maaaaybe one auditor, but you sure won't be able to hack into all of it at the same time before one of the components alerts you
18:43 Stardust makes sense, now there's just one thing : let's suppose the webserver is completly compromised
18:43 davout and since you can run the auditors behind tor a distributed message queue or whatever it becomes very very hard to compromise
18:44 ThickAsThieves anyone else notice how Google Chrome never loads Google.com correctly when you first install it in a fresh Windows install?
18:44 ThickAsThieves Bing.com loads fine of course
18:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4212 @ 0.00082774 = 3.4864 BTC [-]
18:44 Stardust but you don't play with any data yet, you just look at the network traffic to identify all the auditors
18:44 ThickAsThieves similar issues loading google.com from IE
18:44 ThickAsThieves using the url bar as a search bar
18:44 davout Stardust: ok, what do you do next ?
18:45 Stardust couldn't you arbitrarily control the taffic being sent to all these auditors ?
18:45 mircea_popescu Stardust sure.
18:46 Stardust once you've compromised a machine, any output cannot be relied on
18:46 davout first thing, you want to run at least one auditor offline
18:46 davout second thing you need to look at the reporting
18:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3870 @ 0.00082774 = 3.2034 BTC [-]
18:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00082754 = 2.8964 BTC [-]
18:46 davout so first case (and I'll take a BTC/EUR exchange for the sake of the discussion)
18:46 davout attacker adds himself EUR
18:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2708 @ 0.00082467 = 2.2332 BTC [-]
18:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2122 @ 0.00082459 = 1.7498 BTC [-]
18:47 davout in the accounting
18:47 Stardust yep
18:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04547 = 0.4547 BTC [+]
18:47 davout he gets caught immediately when you cross check your auditor's report against your bank balance
18:48 Stardust obviously
18:48 davout he adds himself BTC, same thing
18:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.04548696 = 0.5458 BTC [+]
18:48 davout ok, so what can he do next ?
18:48 davout he can fake user input
18:48 Stardust the thing is the offline auditor is useless in a case of a quick attack, since you have to check manually
18:49 davout Stardust: if you don't have a wot wallet there's nothing to gain from a quick attack
18:49 Stardust i assumed there was one
18:49 davout and even if you have a hot wallet it should sit tight behind tor getting its orders only from a consensus of auditors
18:49 davout there should not be, precisely for the case you describe
18:50 Stardust so how do you handle btc withdrawal in that case ?
18:50 davout ok, imagine you have what we'll call a bitcoind node
18:50 Stardust ok
18:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.04449 = 1.1123 BTC [+]
18:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.044689 = 0.4916 BTC [+]
18:51 davout it would listen to messages on a distributed queue, accessing it through Tor
18:51 davout it only pulls data, never gets pushed to
18:51 Stardust right
18:51 davout it reades messages pushed by 4 different auditors
18:51 davout *reads
18:51 davout for which it has the GPG keys
18:52 Stardust so that's the node that will make the btc transactions
18:52 davout the bitcoind node
18:52 davout yep
18:52 davout nobody knows where it is
18:52 davout not even the auditors
18:52 Stardust these messages will come from the webserver, or some kind of entitiy linked to it right ?
18:52 davout from the auditors
18:52 Stardust *the auditors
18:53 davout ok, i'll give the way i see it fully implemented
18:53 davout user signs a request, with some in-browser ECDSA crypto if he's lazy, or with some manual GPG crypto if he cares
18:54 davout webservers records "user X wants to withdraw Z BTC to the AAA address, signed by the user"
18:54 davout auditors get knowledge of the information
18:54 davout verify the request against the user's public key
18:54 davout allow it, push a signed message on the queue
18:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.044692 = 0.9832 BTC [+]
18:55 davout bitcoind node polls the queue, ends up with 4 messages signed by different auditors saying the same thing
18:55 davout proceeds to send
18:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2585 @ 0.00082868 = 2.1421 BTC [+]
18:56 davout the idea is the only way to win the "my server is more secure than yours game" is not to play it at all but change your strategy
18:57 Stardust which is indeed the way to go
18:57 Stardust i just kinda missed the "signed by user" part in my attack scheme, looks good to me now except :
18:58 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 7 @ 0.002348 = 0.0164 BTC [+]
18:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.045 = 0.135 BTC [-]
18:58 davout if you want to have a sensible security scheme you need to do some boring manual shit too, there's no avoiding it
18:58 Stardust the auditors would have to keep the public key of all users
18:58 davout they can simply pull it from the webserver
18:58 davout and check that it never changes
18:58 davout as part of the rules to enforce
18:58 Stardust so why pull it ?
18:58 Stardust why just don't record it at the user registration
18:59 Stardust i mean to enforce the data integrity maybe
18:59 davout because the auditors are never in contact with the user
18:59 davout they simply look at the main app server DB
18:59 Stardust <davout> as part of the rules to enforce // nevermind, misses that
18:59 Stardust yeah
19:00 Stardust i mean the continously pulling mecanism isn't relevant for the withdrawal process, it is as to enforcing
19:00 davout it is
19:00 davout withdrawal requests first hit the app server DB
19:00 Stardust yeah
19:00 davout it's only after that they get replicated/copied ti the auditor
19:00 davout which in turns signs them off
19:01 Stardust continuously pulling the public key is what i meant...
19:01 davout haha
19:01 davout no
19:01 Stardust ok, looks good
19:01 Bugpowder mircea_popescu: Get these guys to list on MPEX
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19:01 Bugpowder https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312513279830/d562329ds1.htm
19:01 davout it will continuously pull it somehow, but just to check it does not change and that no one is ever fucking with it
19:01 davout Stardust: you forgot one question though
19:01 Stardust go ahead
19:02 davout "how does a lazy user keep his private key ?"
19:02 davout answer is "store it encrypted on the app server, ancrypt and decrypt it client side with symmetric crypto using the user's password"
19:03 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 51 @ 0.019501 = 0.9946 BTC [-]
19:03 Stardust neat
19:05 Bugpowder Winkelvoss Bitcoin Trust files with the SEC. Looks like a $20M share offering for Bitcoin exposure in your portfolio
19:06 davout Bugpowder: nice!
19:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.45 BTC [-]
19:06 mircea_popescu ahaha
19:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04425 = 0.1328 BTC [-]
19:07 mircea_popescu wait, undated ?
19:08 Stardust "As filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on July 1, 2013"
19:08 mircea_popescu The TrustÂ’s Sponsor is Math-Based Asset Services LLC. The Sponsor is a Delaware limited liability company formed on May 9, 2013, and is wholly-owned by Winklevoss Capital Management LLC.
19:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.0443 = 0.3544 BTC [+]
19:09 Bugpowder I guess they did buy some coins...
19:09 mircea_popescu Winklevoss IP LLC is the owner of and is licensing to the Sponsor such intellectual property.
19:09 Bugpowder I wonder if those were the huge 10k blocks going off last week
19:09 mircea_popescu Bugpowder wait a second. this is a preliminary filing
19:09 Bugpowder I gotta go get dinner, looking forward to discussion.
19:10 mircea_popescu they'd buy the coins with what, their personal funds with a view to sell to this ?
19:10 Bugpowder I have only read a few lines of it, just crossed my desk.
19:10 mircea_popescu that's illegal afaik
19:10 ThickAsThieves they already own coins
19:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.044692 = 0.2235 BTC [+]
19:11 mircea_popescu The NAV of the Trust is the aggregate value of the Trust’s assets less its liabilities (which include estimated accrued but unpaid fees and expenses). In determining the NAV of the Trust, the Trustee will value the price of the Bitcoins in the Trust Custody Account as determined by the relevant Blended Bitcoin Price. See “Overview of the Bitcoin Industry and Market” for a description of the operation of the Bitco
19:11 mircea_popescu in exchange market (“Bitcoin Exchange Market”) from which prices are used to determine the Blended Bitcoin Price. The Trustee will determine the NAV of the Trust on each day the [EXCHANGE] is open for regular trading, (“Evaluation Day”) as promptly as practicable after 4:00 p.m.
19:11 mircea_popescu lol ok, this is getting rejected.
19:11 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2 @ 0.00101 = 0.002 BTC [-]
19:12 davout what's NAV ? net average value ?
19:12 mircea_popescu The Trustee will terminate and liquidate the Trust if one of the following events occurs: the SEC determines that the Trust is an investment company ; the CFTC determines that the Trust is a commodity pool under the Commodity Exchange Act of 1936 ; the Trust is determined to be a “money transmitter” under the regulations promulgated by FinCEN
19:12 mircea_popescu this is typical winklevoss filing.
19:12 mircea_popescu also known as three year old style painting.
19:12 Stardust wonder what [EXCHANGE] will stand for, if it's gox...
19:13 mircea_popescu a lot of shit involved, a lot of paper ruined for no purpose
19:14 ThickAsThieves is this maybe one of those things where they intend to do it whether it passes or not
19:14 ThickAsThieves and they'll say oh we tried
19:14 ThickAsThieves like covering their ass
19:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.46 = 8.92 BTC [+]
19:15 mircea_popescu may be worth reading once it's complete,
19:16 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.366 BTC [-]
19:16 mircea_popescu but so far it just looks like a lot of copy pasting
19:16 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.365 BTC [-]
19:16 mircea_popescu and a spurious reference to Katten Muchin Rosenman
19:17 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
19:17 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.04000, Best ask: 87.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.46000, Last trade: 87.50000, 24 hour volume: 51013.62354168, 24 hour low: 87.00000, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 91.44710
19:17 mircea_popescu fun fact : the s-1 is an 8 page document
19:17 ThickAsThieves lowest price since May 2nd
19:17 mircea_popescu which is supposed to take ~1k hours of effort to complete.
19:18 davout ThickAsThieves: the price will hit 40 USD/BTC, and will then proceed to slowly climb back to 65 USD/BTC, until september 2014 where it will boom to new heights, you heard it first
19:19 davout *here first ugh
19:22 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 34 @ 0.02998 = 1.0193 BTC [+]
19:22 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 10 @ 0.029989 = 0.2999 BTC [+]
19:22 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 106 @ 0.02999 = 3.1789 BTC [+]
19:24 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 23 @ 0.002299 = 0.0529 BTC [+]
19:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.36 BTC [-]
19:25 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 245 @ 0.00101 = 0.2475 BTC [-]
19:26 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 400 @ 0.002348 = 0.9392 BTC [+]
19:26 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 400 @ 0.002348 = 0.9392 BTC [+]
19:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.044996 = 0.09 BTC [+]
19:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044996 BTC [+]
19:31 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 44 @ 0.02999 = 1.3196 BTC [+]
19:33 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 32 @ 0.002348 = 0.0751 BTC [+]
19:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04548796 = 0.1365 BTC [+]
19:36 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 3 @ 0.00101 = 0.003 BTC [-]
19:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00082684 = 2.1498 BTC [-]
19:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04422 BTC [-]
19:47 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.172 = 0.344 BTC [-]
19:47 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 63 @ 0.019501 = 1.2286 BTC [-]
19:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.044993 = 0.4499 BTC [-]
19:49 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 47 @ 0.030001 = 1.41 BTC [+]
19:49 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 99 @ 0.03 = 2.97 BTC [-]
19:52 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.044993 = 2.2497 BTC [-]
19:56 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 12 @ 0.2 = 2.4 BTC [+]
19:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00082757 = 16.7169 BTC [+]
19:57 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
19:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.04494 BTC [-]
19:58 furuknap http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312513279830/d562329ds1.htm
19:59 furuknap Competition for MP? I have no idea what any of this means, btw.
20:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.044994 = 0.27 BTC [+]
20:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044994 BTC [+]
20:07 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.019501 = 0.0585 BTC [-]
20:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 5 @ 0.004854 = 0.0243 BTC [+]
20:09 asciilifeform "The ShareholdersÂ’ limited rights of legal recourse against the Trust, the Trustee and the Sponsor and the TrustÂ’s lack of insurance protection expose the Trust and its Shareholders to the risk of loss of the TrustÂ’s Bitcoins for which no person is liable."
20:10 asciilifeform recipe: 1) found Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust. 2) "lose" (walk off with) the private keys. 3) profit!
20:11 furuknap Hey, that's a brilliant idea! I wonder why I even try to keep my operation honest...
20:11 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009999 BTC [+]
20:11 furuknap Oh, that's right, I still have a soul. I'm fairly certain it's been sold, but for now, it's mine.
20:13 asciilifeform the linked document is very close to an official declaration of intent to scam.
20:14 Namworld How wonderful. Don't forget to wear your brain condom when reading stupidity. You don't want to catch Brain Bitcointitis now, do you?
20:16 Namworld Sole symptom is slow degeneration into insanity. Pretty much everyone on Bitcointalk gets infected within the first 5 minutes of reading.
20:18 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 181 @ 0.049418 = 8.9447 BTC [-]
20:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.044994 = 0.4949 BTC [+]
20:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.449995 BTC [+]
20:18 furuknap Holy crap, Ciphermine has almost clear all asks...
20:19 furuknap That's like 500% rise in 2 weeks. Mining craziness indeed.
20:19 furuknap https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/CIPHERMINE
20:19 ozbot LTC-GLOBAL: Litecoin Global Exchange - View Security
20:20 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 26 @ 0.044994 = 1.1698 BTC [+]
20:20 Namworld did CIPHERMINE provide any proof the person it pretends to be is indeed the one issuing?
20:21 Namworld Because it keeps showing the blog and website of that succesful person but then all things CIPHERMINE is on a different website with no link between the two.
20:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.044998 = 1.08 BTC [+]
20:22 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.467777 BTC [+]
20:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044998 BTC [+]
20:22 Namworld It's not very hard to link to a reputable person and just state "Hey, I'm that person. Buy out my IPO."
20:23 mircea_popescu <furuknap> Hey, that's a brilliant idea! I wonder why I even try to keep my operation honest... <<< you didn;'t actually imagine the failtwins are up to anything actually useful.
20:23 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 18 @ 0.018121 = 0.3262 BTC [-]
20:23 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.01812 = 1.812 BTC [-]
20:23 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.01811 BTC [-]
20:24 mircea_popescu Namworld good point.
20:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.045 = 0.225 BTC [+]
20:24 mircea_popescu i guess people need to use gpg more
20:24 furuknap To be honest, I don't understand half of what neither you nor they do, so my expectations are those of a pineapple. I expect to hang around for a while and then fall down and rot. Anything else is surprise to me.
20:24 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 99 @ 0.00101 = 0.1 BTC [-]
20:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 172 @ 0.045 = 7.74 BTC [+]
20:24 Namworld mircea_popescu, they are always up to something useful.
20:24 Namworld Entertaining us.
20:24 mircea_popescu ya, because bitcoin is backed by drama and lulz
20:24 Namworld That's got to count for something, isn't it?
20:24 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
20:24 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.30100, Best ask: 88.52000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21900, Last trade: 88.52000, 24 hour volume: 53432.08625911, 24 hour low: 86.01100, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 91.19160
20:24 mircea_popescu seems not. stale lulz ?
20:25 Namworld We're low on drama lately without the billions of "OMG it's going to 1 trillion a coin in a year BUYBUYBUY!" crowd mostly gone.
20:25 Namworld It was entertaining.
20:26 Namworld The claims slowly built more insane and more frequent.
20:27 furuknap I'd be happy to cheer for rising prices if you miss it, Nam.
20:27 Namworld I eventually saw maximal craziness reached and sold at peak.
20:28 Namworld I'm pretty sure Bitcoin is not backed by drama but madness.
20:29 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 499 @ 0.0059 = 2.9441 BTC [-]
20:30 furuknap Why can't it be both drama and madness?
20:30 furuknap We need both; drama makes people mad and vice cersa.
20:30 furuknap *versa
20:31 Namworld No, drama is what infects people with madness. But it's madness which backs the price.
20:34 furuknap So, create drama->infuse madness->make money. Well, at least it's more honest than the Winklevoss thing...
20:36 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 15 @ 0.00101 = 0.0152 BTC [-]
20:37 mircea_popescu so i'm getting duplicate spam from stumbleupon. "New Updates to Paid Discovery: Campaign blabla"
20:37 mircea_popescu they're going under by now aren't they.
20:39 furuknap SU still exists? Wow.
20:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.045 = 2.25 BTC [+]
20:43 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.001 = 0.01 BTC [-]
20:43 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 3 @ 0.00099 = 0.003 BTC [-]
20:46 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 32 @ 0.000864 = 0.0276 BTC [-]
20:46 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000862 = 0.0259 BTC [-]
20:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.455 BTC [-]
20:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 4.454999 = 26.73 BTC [-]
20:52 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.050001 = 0.45 BTC [-]
20:52 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.058 BTC [+]
20:55 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.05 BTC [-]
20:55 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.045201 = 0.2712 BTC [-]
20:57 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.05896 BTC [+]
21:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 18 @ 0.04435 = 0.7983 BTC [-]
~ 15 minutes ~
21:17 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.002015 = 0.2015 BTC [-]
21:18 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000862 = 0.0017 BTC [-]
21:18 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 135 @ 0.000862 = 0.1164 BTC [-]
21:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.469982 BTC [+]
21:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.48999 BTC [+]
21:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04548588 BTC [+]
21:19 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00238 BTC [+]
21:20 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.044999 = 1.035 BTC [-]
21:22 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.426004 = 30.982 BTC [-]
21:22 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.426003 BTC [-]
21:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.044999 = 0.99 BTC [-]
21:30 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 256 @ 0.00101 = 0.2586 BTC [+]
21:35 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.01999 = 0.04 BTC [+]
21:37 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 198 @ 0.01999 = 3.958 BTC [+]
21:37 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 400 @ 0.02 = 8 BTC [+]
21:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04548588 = 0.1365 BTC [+]
21:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0454858 = 0.1365 BTC [-]
21:42 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 6 @ 0.2 = 1.2 BTC [+]
21:43 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.009999 = 0.9999 BTC [+]
21:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.499999 BTC [+]
21:44 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 30 @ 0.0208 = 0.624 BTC [+]
21:45 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]
21:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.499999 BTC [+]
21:46 dub aww yeah
21:46 dub bought a 5970
21:46 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC [+]
21:47 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 43 @ 0.0208 = 0.8944 BTC [+]
21:47 dub gonna keep me warm over winter
21:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.044999 = 0.585 BTC [-]
21:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.044999 = 0.99 BTC [-]
21:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 75 @ 0.044999 = 3.3749 BTC [-]
21:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.5 BTC [+]
21:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.05 BTC [-]
22:01 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 21 @ 0.0295 = 0.6195 BTC [-]
22:01 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 9 @ 0.0291 = 0.2619 BTC [-]
22:04 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.044999 = 2.025 BTC [-]
22:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.04494 = 0.5842 BTC [-]
22:08 thestringpuller ;;ticker
22:08 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.75066, Best ask: 89.43500, Bid-ask spread: 0.68434, Last trade: 88.75066, 24 hour volume: 56041.82797211, 24 hour low: 86.01100, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 91.10468
22:08 thestringpuller wow the price is popping
22:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.0008289 = 6.2168 BTC [+]
22:13 Stardust <mircea_popescu> i guess people need to use gpg more
22:13 Stardust // most def
22:13 Stardust but then people are so lazy asses..
22:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.503 BTC [-]
22:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.497001 = 0.994 BTC [-]
22:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.044899 = 0.0898 BTC [-]
22:19 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0445 BTC [-]
22:20 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.044002 = 0.704 BTC [-]
22:20 thestringpuller gpg is the easiest thing in the world to use
22:21 thestringpuller to not use gpg because of laziness is absolute absurdity
22:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044899 BTC [+]
22:23 furuknap <Stardust> but then people are so lazy asses.. <- Count me in! Where do I sign up for lazy people? Never mind, can't be bothered...
22:29 thestringpuller :D
22:32 dub you'd think with a shit eating dickwhore like gmaxwell riding wikipedia's chief skank they would take btc donations
22:32 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 20 @ 0.030499 = 0.61 BTC [+]
22:32 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 101 @ 0.0305 = 3.0805 BTC [+]
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0444 = 0.0888 BTC [-]
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04430901 BTC [-]
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.044309 = 1.7724 BTC [-]
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04430001 = 0.1329 BTC [-]
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 124 @ 0.0443 = 5.4932 BTC [-]
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0442 BTC [-]
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.0441 = 0.6615 BTC [-]
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04409 = 0.4409 BTC [-]
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.04408008 = 2.204 BTC [-]
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 248 @ 0.044 = 10.912 BTC [-]
22:39 thestringpuller come again dub?
22:42 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044898 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 432 @ 0.044 = 19.008 BTC [-]
22:45 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 615 @ 0.00101 = 0.6212 BTC [+]
22:47 Stardust haha furuknap :)
22:47 furuknap ?
22:47 furuknap Ah.
22:47 furuknap Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to scroll up a bit.
22:48 dub thestringpuller: where is the confusion?
22:53 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.044101 = 0.7056 BTC [-]
22:53 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.0441 = 1.4112 BTC [-]
22:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0453 BTC [+]
22:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.045 = 4.5 BTC [-]
22:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 119 @ 0.0453 = 5.3907 BTC [+]
22:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.044898 = 0.6735 BTC [+]
22:59 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 17 @ 0.00109 = 0.0185 BTC [+]
23:01 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 11 @ 0.00109 = 0.012 BTC [+]
23:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.044899 = 0.0898 BTC [+]
23:02 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 7 @ 0.00099 = 0.0069 BTC [-]
23:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 62 @ 0.044899 = 2.7837 BTC [+]
23:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.04499 = 0.2699 BTC [+]
23:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0395 = 0.079 BTC [-]
23:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.045 = 0.09 BTC [+]
23:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.525 BTC [+]
23:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.430001 BTC [-]
23:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.43 BTC [-]
23:17 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.045 = 0.225 BTC [+]
23:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.045 BTC [+]
23:18 Chaang-Noi wtf is this AM at 4.7?
23:20 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.17 = 0.34 BTC [-]
23:21 dub unless you want to sell more than one, sure
23:21 furuknap Aaand he's back! Welcome! We've missed you.
23:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0453 = 0.1812 BTC [+]
23:22 furuknap In interesting news, AM has announced that they will do exactly what they have already been doing, except with much higher cost. This, of course, propels the prices upwards, as you'd expect.
23:23 furuknap Well, you'd expect it if you were completely bonkers, at least.
23:23 Menoetius valued at 2 million BTC yet ?
23:23 furuknap Closing in on it.
23:24 Menoetius ridiculous
23:24 Menoetius only because i didin't buy any at IPO
23:24 Menoetius heh
23:24 dub announced what?
23:24 furuknap They'll be buying or building 800-1000TH.
23:24 dub I see no mention of that
23:25 furuknap Clean your glasses, it's all over the news.
23:25 furuknap Oh, and that's this year.
23:25 dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=49840;sa=showPosts unless its in the ling ling bit I'm calling bullshit
23:25 furuknap Which would get them from a hashrate of 35% to a hashrate of 35%.
23:25 ozbot Latest posts of: friedcat
23:26 Menoetius and an opperating cost of..
23:26 furuknap Well, at least more than they have now.
23:26 dub interestingly, friedcat has deleted the bit where he says 'obviously as everyone knows there is no rule of law in china'
23:26 furuknap So, same income, higher cost, prices go up. Welcome to Bitcoin investments.
23:27 dub furuknap: srsly, what news?
23:27 furuknap C'mon, search the forums. It was a few days ago. I'm not your Google.
23:27 dub even with fully half of the posters ignored i gave up on the thread
23:27 dub friedcat hasnt said anything
23:28 furuknap It was from a presentation AM held somewhere in China, translated in the thread somewhere.
23:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.0008289 = 2.0308 BTC [+]
23:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04399999 BTC [-]
23:31 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 32 @ 0.00099 = 0.0317 BTC [-]
23:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.04386005 = 0.1754 BTC [-]
23:43 Chaang-Noi i was going to sell some at 3.5
23:43 Chaang-Noi glad i was away
23:44 mircea_popescu <dub> you'd think with a shit eating dickwhore like gmaxwell riding wikipedia's chief skank they would take btc donations <<< wait. what ?!
23:45 mircea_popescu Menoetius if it makes you feel better, i SOLD at ipo
23:45 mircea_popescu AND made money on the deal.
23:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.04512244 = 0.0902 BTC [+]
23:49 dub mircea_popescu: what whatting about?
23:50 dub kat walsh == wikipedia lawppopotamus and gmaxwell's sausage wallet
23:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.5999 = 9.1998 BTC [+]
23:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.599902 = 32.1993 BTC [+]
23:53 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.045 = 0.9 BTC [+]
23:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.045 = 0.45 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.045 = 0.9 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6 BTC [+]
23:58 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.001165 = 0.0117 BTC [+]
23:58 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 200 @ 0.001165 = 0.233 BTC [+]
23:58 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 616 @ 0.001165 = 0.7176 BTC [+]
23:58 assbot [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 161 @ 0.001167 = 0.1879 BTC [+]
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