| 12:48 | PeterL | hey asciilifeform, do you have strong feeling one way or the other whether to call it "Ukraine" or "The Ukraine"? Also, how do you feel about "Kiev" vs "Kyiv"? |
| 12:50 | asciilifeform | PeterL: УССР. simple. |
| 12:53 | asciilifeform | 'to victor, spoils, to the defeated, the tears'. what does it matter what the reich calls the bantustans it carved the vanquished people into. |
| 12:53 | asciilifeform | they can call it 'new arkansas' for all asciilifeform cares. |
| 12:54 | asciilifeform | the pretense that ukristan, or latvia, etc. are somehow sovereign 'countries' is sanctimonious bullshit |
| 12:55 | PeterL | Are they part of the same reich as Russia, or two separate things now? |
| 12:55 | asciilifeform | see e.g. lulz |
| 12:57 | asciilifeform | PeterL: all of the su shards, incl. to a large extent ru proper, are satrapies of the anglo reich presently. with scattered pockets of uppitiness, but otherwise solidly. |
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| 13:01 | PeterL | aha. And war in Ukraine procedes at the leisure of the reich, is good to churn excess manpower/materiel? |
| 13:02 | PeterL | powers-that-be are not stopping the war, therefore they are giving their approval to continue indefinately? |
| 13:02 | asciilifeform | churn many things, incl. the remnants of su-era industry (space vehicles etc.) that ended up in the burn zone |