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04:55 whaack diana_coman: EOD report: I finished the review from last week + published the plan for next week, completed a rough draft of An Outpost of Progress article, and did a 1 hour session reading The Odyssey. I also did a short review of my backup scripts and found that they are not working - my most recent blog article is not backed up. The issue is that my ssh key is being rejected when rsync tries to connect to my account solely made
04:55 whaack for storing backups of the blog. I believe the first time crontab fired the script that syncs from digitalocean it worked and then the script failed every subsequent time.
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08:01 diana_coman whaack: you know, you should always run the crontab manually too as a basic test before letting it be; pfft.
08:01 diana_coman anyway, fix it, obviously.
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13:55 whaack diana_coman: Well yes I ran the scripts manually before I put them on a crontab timer. I believe I also scheduled the crontab to fire a few minutes after the point in time I set them up, to make sure the crontab itself was running.
13:56 whaack diana_coman: In any case I will look into it the problem and fix it right now.
13:56 diana_coman whaack: so then what changed and moreover did it actually do what was expected that crontab-test run or didn't you check the result or what happened there?
13:56 diana_coman ok.
13:58 whaack diana_coman: Either I threw a pebble and did not thoroughly verify that the script worked, which truthfully is the most likely case, or after I set it up the first day I tweaked some setting on digitalocean / digitalocean tweaked some setting for me.
13:59 diana_coman myeah, did sound like a pebble really.
14:10 whaack diana_coman: The problem is that crontab runs in a separate environment that by default is not set to used the ssh key my terminal has access to. So my script works manually but not when it is run via crontab. Since there were no changes to the files on my blog since i tested it manually, I didn't notice that rsync wasn't working. If i had checked my terminal mail and looked at the crontabs output, or checked the timestamps of file
14:10 whaack s, I would have caught this bug.
14:10 diana_coman aha.
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14:43 diana_coman eh, whaack, being beaten *by someone who knows what they are doing*; otherwise it's just broken bones, not growth, lolz.
14:44 whaack diana_coman: aha
14:44 diana_coman dorion_road: "a bit" there might be the understatement of the day; but if that was indeed apres apres-ski, I'm rather positively impressed with the result anyway.
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15:08 whaack diana_coman: Probably not something too important to address but so you're aware the graph of insanity in your article http://ossasepia.com/2017/02/18/the-open-sores-of-monkey-code/ goes all over the sidebar and can't be clicked / doesn't have a readable resolution.
15:10 diana_coman whaack: myeah, I noticed there are now quite a few of the old images that got messed up by the switch to the mp-wp theme, ugh; it's somewhere down at the bottom of the list but thanks anyway.
15:24 dorion_road http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-02#1011762 << right, I understand there's many bytes of settling yet to do. with that being said, I'll take satisfaction in generating positively impressive results.
15:24 ossabot Logged on 2019-12-02 10:52:01 diana_coman: dorion_road: "a bit" there might be the understatement of the day; but if that was indeed apres apres-ski, I'm rather positively impressed with the result anyway.
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19:08 diana_coman jfw: why not just sign the archive anyway?
19:09 diana_coman for gales initial release I mean.
19:17 dorion_road jfw mind answering spyked's question about your build by hand X11 recipe. does it produce a statically linked X11 ? or dynamic linked musl ?
19:17 dorion_road (when you have the chance.)
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19:46 jfw diana_coman: hm, no strong reason I suppose. Large things are slow to get to my signing machine, but this isn't quite in that territory, I'm not typing base64 by hand or anything.
19:48 jfw dorion_road: will have a look, but in a word, that was dynamic, on gentoo
19:51 diana_coman jfw: fwiw I enjoyed reading the gales files; esp after a CS dig, it makes for a refreshing crisp & don't-mess-my-shit read.
19:51 jfw glad to hear it
19:52 diana_coman I certainly want to get to give it a try but it might be a while until I dig up some proper chunk of time for it.
19:54 jfw sure, and perhaps some further wrinkles will be ironed by then
19:54 diana_coman that would be great.
19:55 jfw The bootstrap process takes me (including compile times) around an hour, with a fair amount of the copy-pasting I caution against ;)
19:57 jfw I'm sure it would be scriptable with a bit more thinking through.
20:00 diana_coman heh; not bad to know it though; for starters it will surely take me longer because of poking-it-everywhere and anyway, it's your one hour after the few years on it.
20:01 jfw right. some of those gcc configure options are a devil, miss one and something breaks 10 steps down the line
20:07 diana_coman quite.
20:13 diana_coman whaack: ahaha, that monitor & ups will be coming forever "tomorrow" ?
20:20 whaack diana_coman: heh yes. i called cococo to check on the order, and they said the delivery company they were using wanted to charge an extra $100 or so to take the road to my exact location, so they told the delivery company to leave the packages in a nearby city with one of their partners. The partner will deliver it either 'Tuesday or Wednesday' so it'll probably get here about Friday, really.
20:21 whaack diana_coman: it was amazing how the guy was well informed about my order and knew the whole change of plans that had happened but never thought he should ping me and let me know.
20:27 BingoBoingo whaack: Welcome to Latin America
20:36 jfw diana_coman: thinking about the what do you mean here now, might be easier discussed here. How to put it... there was a kind of shift in framing of my thought process
20:37 jfw The tasks themselves consist mostly of thinking, and the planning of the tasks likewise ...
20:38 diana_coman jfw: do you mean the coding tasks?
20:38 jfw right. so, how was I to come up with a solid plan for what to code, before thinking further about what the code itself needs
20:39 jfw the two need to feed back into each other as I see it
20:39 jfw (spec and implementation)
20:39 diana_coman sure, that's fine and just like with any other piece of writing: at times you need to do more thinking before being able to write
20:40 diana_coman there's no interdiction on thinking about code, quite on the contrary, the writing of spec is after all a form of "thinking about code" too
20:40 diana_coman the potentially iffy part is at "what the code itself needs"
20:41 jfw yeah should be more like, what the code needs to do to solve the problem, what inputs it therefore needs and so on
20:41 diana_coman because code is not exactly having much to say about needs of its own; but to the extent that you mean "what is still needed for this to be useful", sure.
20:41 diana_coman there, precisely :)
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21:04 jfw diana_coman: and re "this does read more like a report than a review" - do you recall my past reviews being better in this regard - being more for myself? I'll go back over them and see if I can spot the difference.
21:07 diana_coman jfw: yes, they were certainly more actively reviewing, you know? it might be that you simply left this one so late + rushed it so much that there was no time & inclination to review anything but that's the effect already, not the root cause.
21:09 diana_coman whether you did them more for yourself or not, only you can tell really; my suggestion here was simply to point out to you that ultimately they are meant to be of most use to you really.
21:09 diana_coman and yeah, I quite think you are not very fond of reporting otherwise :P
21:10 diana_coman jfw: or are you?
21:11 jfw hm. I'm tending to think it's more the reviewing I'm not fond of and so got displaced by reporting when I had to grab at something
21:11 diana_coman well, it is easier for sure so that part I can see, yes.
21:12 jfw so yeah, will do that rereading and bear in mind that they're for me.
21:12 jfw thx
21:12 diana_coman cool, np.
21:25 diana_coman btw jfw dorion_road (when you get back to your key, obv) you should at least rate one another really.
21:25 jfw yeah I need to get all my ratings in really
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22:25 dorion_road BingoBoingo are you around to grant me an !!up in #t ? it'd be appreciated.
22:27 BingoBoingo Sorry, can in a bit late on it.
22:27 BingoBoingo *came
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22:48 dorion_road ty for the try BingoBoingo
22:48 dorion_road http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-02#1011772 << thanks for the follow up there.
22:48 ossabot Logged on 2019-12-02 15:55:24 jfw: dorion_road: will have a look, but in a word, that was dynamic, on gentoo
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