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00:38 thestringpuller stop taking my money steam
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00:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24112 @ 0.00063808 = 15.3854 BTC [+]
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01:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00118096 = 1.181 BTC [-] {8}
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01:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28616 @ 0.00062362 = 17.8455 BTC [-] {2}
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02:24 cazalla thestringpuller, sale is pretty shitty, nothing i really wanted
02:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29491 @ 0.00062075 = 18.3065 BTC [+]
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02:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19053 @ 0.00061567 = 11.7304 BTC [-] {2}
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06:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.12419 = 1.1177 BTC [-] {6}
06:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48900 @ 0.00061901 = 30.2696 BTC [-] {2}
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06:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1200 @ 0.00114189 = 1.3703 BTC [-] {9}
06:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66541 @ 0.00062798 = 41.7864 BTC [+] {3}
06:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 199 @ 0.00852568 = 1.6966 BTC [-]
06:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48350 @ 0.00064003 = 30.9455 BTC [+] {4}
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07:17 BingoBoingo ;;later tell hanbot In the new Trilema header
07:17 gribble The operation succeeded.
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07:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13052 @ 0.00061269 = 7.9968 BTC [-] {2}
07:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6048 @ 0.00060936 = 3.6854 BTC [-] {2}
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08:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40371 @ 0.00062217 = 25.1176 BTC [+] {2}
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08:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00063361 = 17.3609 BTC [+] {2}
09:04 adlai rye's checkin
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09:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00063666 = 13.1152 BTC [+]
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09:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47950 @ 0.00061899 = 29.6806 BTC [-]
10:05 BingoBoingo scoopbot -fetch
10:05 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/12/bitcoin-alliance-of-canada-founder-steps-down/
10:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00061351 = 1.3497 BTC [-]
10:16 rithm blame canada, blame canada
10:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30186 @ 0.00061944 = 18.6984 BTC [+]
10:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32100 @ 0.00061504 = 19.7428 BTC [-]
10:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52092 @ 0.00064553 = 33.6269 BTC [+] {4}
10:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46000 @ 0.00064766 = 29.7924 BTC [+] {2}
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11:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19013 @ 0.00063627 = 12.0974 BTC [-] {2}
11:09 scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/first-full-service-crypto-digital-agency-in-the-world/
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11:39 BingoBoingo scoopbot -fetch
11:40 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/12/canberra-times-police-concerned-over-online-drug-purchases/
11:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00060935 = 7.1903 BTC [-]
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12:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00060935 = 14.5635 BTC [-]
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12:52 BingoBoingo !up Namworld
12:55 kakobrekla >All this because of the stupid AUSTRIAN RAIFFEISENBANK, that confuses servng clients with serving prisoners in Konzentrationslager Mauthausen.
12:55 kakobrekla lol
12:55 kakobrekla sauce: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.msg9984945#msg9984945
12:55 assbot [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG ... ( http://bit.ly/1A8tz3H )
13:02 BingoBoingo lol
13:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00061176 = 3.1812 BTC [+]
13:07 kakobrekla also this is lulzy > “When bitcoin first came out, I was on the cryptography mailing list. When it happened, I sort of laughed. Because I had already proven that decentralized consensus was impossible.”
13:08 asciilifeform kakobrekla: impossible << lamport ?
13:09 kakobrekla Gregory Maxwell
13:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55500 @ 0.00065253 = 36.2154 BTC [+] {4}
13:11 mod6 lel
13:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38800 @ 0.00061334 = 23.7976 BTC [-] {2}
13:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38889 @ 0.00065343 = 25.4112 BTC [+] {2}
13:28 asciilifeform http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-imperial-collapse-playbook.html << mega-lol
13:28 assbot ClubOrlov: The Imperial Collapse Playbook ... ( http://bit.ly/1ztTX5t )
13:32 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: He nails the point where Anglophones are fascinated about culturing instability with anti-[fill-in-the-blank]
13:32 asciilifeform peculiar omission of korea in his list
13:32 asciilifeform somebody wake up mr. o
13:33 BingoBoingo Is Korea really an actual united enough thing to have ever had an anti?
13:33 asciilifeform sk is the anti.
13:33 asciilifeform (not slovakia. south kr.)
13:34 BingoBoingo All Korea's pretty much been other people's colony. That there's an independent Korea or korea is probably the farce.
13:34 asciilifeform until approx. 1980, nk was the industrial power, and the south was a pisshole.
13:34 asciilifeform it took decades of 'international komyoonity' blockading, conniving, sabotage, favourite-son dealing, to change this.
13:36 BingoBoingo The family line of succession probably didn't help things. Man who did things, Son of man who did things, Son of Son
13:37 thestringpuller asciilifeform: that's why it is called best korea
13:37 asciilifeform to borrow mircea's analogy re: french empire, 'at this point atmosphere there is quite like that in hitler's bunker'
13:38 asciilifeform everyone who laughs at nk should sit down for five minutes and imagine what they'd do as king there
13:38 asciilifeform other than 'surrender'
13:39 thestringpuller i would make everyone do science
13:40 thestringpuller i would put all military funding into science!
13:40 asciilifeform lol
13:40 thestringpuller get some kinda of clean energy dem those niggas will come to me
13:41 BingoBoingo Well, North Korea has legal marijauana. Leverage that into European tourism. Follow with Pope mediated negotions with Obola. Open US trade. Appoint a patsy president. Move to Macau and read about the Color revolution in the Newspaper.
13:42 asciilifeform ^ surrender
13:42 thestringpuller XD
13:42 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: it's funny how
13:42 thestringpuller colorado is the richest state in its block now
13:42 thestringpuller all funded by pot heads
13:44 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Sure it's surrender. If anything it's a more graceful one than Idi Amin had before living out his days in a House of Saud zoo.
13:46 BingoBoingo It's the option the Castros are taking. They just haven't left yet. Raoul is Probably hoping Fidel can get a dignified state burial before he jumps ship.
13:46 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: a surrender that may or may not be accepted.
13:47 BingoBoingo Of course. USia is far less civilized now than it was when Idi Amin held the Scottish throne.
13:47 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: current king probably weighed his chances of ending up as an example, like hussein, milosevich, others who dared to stand up to anglo.
13:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33190 @ 0.00064168 = 21.2974 BTC [-]
13:47 BingoBoingo Or like Ghaddafi who cooperated with Anglos in the end.
13:50 asciilifeform 'The bonus question is, what sort of anti-America will these parasites set up inside America before they abandon their host and scatter to their fortified compounds in undisclosed locations around the world? Or will they not even bother, and just provoke a war of all against all?'
13:51 BingoBoingo Texas.
13:52 asciilifeform 'pseudoliberal/pseudoconservative indoctrination and university- and church-based brainwashing that put it in place, cost them a pretty penny... ...How about leveraging it to organize some sort of rabidly homophobic racist fundamentalist separatist enclave somewhere down south? Or perhaps one somewhere in the north, where zoophilia is de rigeur while heterosexual intercourse requires a special permit from a committee stocked w
13:52 asciilifeform ith graduates in women's studies?'
13:59 BingoBoingo There's also the chance that they want to break things up into enough enclaves that sme sort of conflict homeostasis between them might be the norm.
14:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19906 @ 0.00064168 = 12.7733 BTC [-]
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14:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24644 @ 0.00063183 = 15.5708 BTC [-] {2}
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14:56 BingoBoingo scoopbot -fetch
14:56 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/12/collected-points-from-the-nsas-recent-document-dump/
15:01 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2014/12/collected-points-from-the-nsas-recent-document-dump/#comment-5242
15:01 assbot Collected Points From the NSA's Recent Document Dump | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1BlbOO2 )
15:03 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: just read the bloody things, there isn't all that much to read.
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44300 @ 0.00065857 = 29.1747 BTC [+] {4}
15:12 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: Texas << It's interesting what Texas does in most fictional scenarios in a post apocalyptic world.
15:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00064226 = 14.0655 BTC [-]
15:12 BingoBoingo Honestly Texas is probably going to hell the fastest
15:13 thestringpuller It's like New Mexico, but with oil I thought.
15:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00066007 = 15.9737 BTC [+] {2}
15:15 BingoBoingo New Mexico has oil to. Texas's problem is Los Zetas et al are better organized than any Texan force.
15:19 TomServo BingoBoingo: Did you accidently a word in the second sentence?
15:20 TomServo In addition to the unsurprising post-Snowden _____? that NSA analysts routinely...
15:20 TomServo revelation?
15:20 BingoBoingo TomServo: Thanks.
15:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: your article is still off
15:20 BingoBoingo Hmm
15:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the Spiegel wasn't writing about the official Christmas dump
15:21 asciilifeform but a separate, parallel snowden one
15:21 asciilifeform (leaving aside the question of whether mr s is a hangout)
15:21 asciilifeform how did you read either one and not realize this ?
15:22 BingoBoingo Mixed up Der Speigel articles when linking, fixed
15:22 TomServo asciilifeform: what do you mean 'is a hangout'?
15:22 BingoBoingo Too many tabs open.
15:22 asciilifeform TomServo: 'hangout' is the traditional english term for disinfo
15:22 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2T5ZWHY.txt )
15:22 BingoBoingo !b 1
15:24 BingoBoingo The worst part of this clusterfuck of errors is I haven't even had a drink yet. Fucking language learning app on the new pet android device robbing my brain of all of its glucose.
15:29 BingoBoingo !up austeritysucks
15:32 decimation asciilifeform: re: illegal radios << yes, this is a route. unfortunately usg is good at finding such products and crushing their makers
15:33 asciilifeform decimation: this is why the usual concepts of 'product' and 'market' are to be avoided there.
15:34 asciilifeform decimation: the relevant boojums are to be produced either in underground workshops, like grenades during warsaw ghetto uprising, or in a foreign land and smuggled in
15:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1748 @ 0.00114601 = 2.0032 BTC [-]
15:38 adlai BingoBoingo: what language are you learning
15:39 BingoBoingo Spanish, again. Just the pace of the thing is draining. Maybe... also tried Swahili.
15:42 kakobrekla lol lizard squad lauches 'ddos for bitcoin' service, on a website protected with cloudflare.
15:44 asciilifeform kakobrekla: mega-lol!
15:45 asciilifeform why does this need a www site ?
15:45 asciilifeform should accept commands via blockchain telegraph.
15:45 kakobrekla then you cant use couldflare :(
15:48 asciilifeform why the fuck one needs cloudflare or whatever, if blockchain telegraph ?
15:48 kakobrekla exactly.
15:49 * asciilifeform confused
15:50 kakobrekla makes me think lizard are affiliated with cf.
15:50 BingoBoingo Because when your hammer is a DoS, every nail is a website
15:53 kakobrekla classic mobster scenario, "pay us so nothing bad happens to your store."
15:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47550 @ 0.00066139 = 31.4491 BTC [+] {2}
15:53 kakobrekla ofc you need to make up the crime as well.
15:53 decimation kakobrekla: yeah but in this case they originally said they did it on principle
15:54 decimation to 'improve security' to help the little people
15:54 kakobrekla yes like the nsa.
15:56 decimation the rwcg guy nitpicked the paul graham immigration essay https://rwcg.wordpress.com/2014/12/29/paul-graham-on-immigration/
15:56 assbot Paul Graham on immigration | RWCG ... ( http://bit.ly/1xeEUj4 )
15:56 decimation "So basically I’m being told that this is a foreign worker who might add 100X in value and you only have to pay them X.
15:56 decimation Oh please, go on, do tell me that this isn’t just about cost saving."
15:59 kakobrekla !up BlueMeanie4
16:01 asciilifeform 'Question: why doesn’t this hypothetical guy, if he’s so ‘great’ and ‘exceptional’, just do his own thing? What’s he need Initrode for? Why should he move to a 2 BR/2 BA in Sunnyvale, CA to get a biweekly paycheck?'
16:01 asciilifeform of course, if you read pg's piece correctly (i.e. substitute 'exceptionally obedient coolie' for 'exceptional programmer', the contradictions are instamagically resolved.
16:02 kakobrekla lol sunnyvale tpb reference?
16:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00066152 = 3.1091 BTC [+]
16:04 asciilifeform now i'd like to learn,
16:04 asciilifeform how 'exceptional' of a programmer does one need to become, to leave usa ?
16:05 decimation asciilifeform: lol
16:05 asciilifeform brings to mind an old saw re: certain places, 'Вход – рубль, выход – два' (entry - one coin, exit - costs two)
16:05 asciilifeform (originally spoken re: various mafias, e.g. intelligence agencies)
16:06 decimation asciilifeform: or 'exit' through the coffin-burner
16:06 asciilifeform aha.
16:06 asciilifeform that one - free.
16:07 decimation in the end, Stierlitz goes back to Berlin
16:09 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/jenniferthang/status/550027307935866881
16:09 assbot Huge salt spill at Morton Salt in /hashtag/Chicago?src=hash. Will they shovel it over their left shoulders? http://t.co/Ic8vAUuedb
16:10 decimation oh I thought it went into lake Michigan or something
16:19 BingoBoingo http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/12/30/report_finds_police_officers_killed_on_duty_spiked_in_2014.html
16:19 assbot Report finds police officers killed on duty spiked in 2014. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xeGEIY )
16:24 BingoBoingo http://venturebeat.com/2014/12/29/cia-takes-blame-for-more-than-half-of-ufo-sightings-in-late-1950s-and-60s/ << The reptilians know we are on to them.
16:24 assbot CIA takes blame for more than half of UFO sightings in late 1950s and 60s | VentureBeat | Business | by Daniel Terdiman ... ( http://bit.ly/1zugPSk )
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16:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37193 @ 0.00066149 = 24.6028 BTC [-]
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17:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15726 @ 0.00066395 = 10.4413 BTC [+]
17:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34633 @ 0.00066434 = 23.0081 BTC [+] {3}
17:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 880 @ 0.00114501 = 1.0076 BTC [-] {5}
18:00 fluffypony !search vladimir
18:00 assbot 23 results for 'vladimir' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=vladimir
18:01 fluffypony <mircea_popescu> btw, since i've been reading my old romanian bitcoin articles, landed on some gems. anyone remembers vladimir's asic ? <- what was the story there?
18:10 kakobrekla another thing that never happened
18:10 kakobrekla there were a bunch of other nonhappening asics at the time
18:11 kakobrekla i dun think he was the first and certainly not last.
18:11 asciilifeform afaik it hasn't happened yet, even.
18:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24993 @ 0.00065889 = 16.4676 BTC [-]
18:12 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-12-2014#948513
18:12 assbot Logged on 08-12-2014 18:26:51; asciilifeform: (re: miner asics: anyone who gives a damn can find, in #b-a logs, my reasonably well-supported hypothesis that miner asic never actually -happened.- that is, there are devices, and they - approximately - work, but they are not 'asics' in the traditional sense. more 'hardcopy fpga.' - actual term of art)
18:14 asciilifeform and, to return to that old thread, i still think that mircea is mistaken about the current crop of miners being something other than 'structured asic'
18:15 asciilifeform the latter isn't simply a non-reprogrammable fpga; it has the LUTs of fpga, but with 'wiring' baked into the metallization layers, rather than fpga-style switching fabric
18:15 fluffypony kakobrekla: yeah but was Vladimir generally a scammer, or just an isolated incident?
18:16 asciilifeform but 'structured asic' is still not a real asic.
18:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52870 @ 0.00065223 = 34.4834 BTC [-] {2}
18:17 kakobrekla fluffypony he was just too irrogant.
18:21 fluffypony fun
18:24 kakobrekla so if i tell you im compiling the latest bitcoind on an ARM could, do i get expelled from here?
18:24 asciilifeform kakobrekla: i actually did this at one point.
18:24 asciilifeform kakobrekla: on, if i recall, a 'raspberry'
18:25 asciilifeform kakobrekla: it worked, but that particular chip/board had uncommonly slow i/o, it was nearly unusable
18:25 asciilifeform speaking of arm,
18:26 kakobrekla im using one of such nodes http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Online-chassis.jpg
18:26 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1x24yrj )
18:26 * asciilifeform just today finished a ~3 week, all-waking-hours death marathon of 'arm' reversing. 'jailbroke' a [censored] (rare laboratory instrument)
18:26 kakobrekla dunno how it compares to rpi, this one has 2 gigs of ram and 4 cores
18:26 asciilifeform kakobrekla: interesting - who makes these ?
18:27 asciilifeform kakobrekla: and where are they ordinarily found ?
18:27 kakobrekla http://venturebeat.com/2014/12/29/why-french-telecom-iliad-is-launching-an-arm-based-cloud-service-and-why-it-matters/
18:27 assbot Why French telecom Iliad is launching an ARM-based cloud service -- and why it matters | VentureBeat | Cloud | by Jordan Novet ... ( http://bit.ly/1x24KXA )
18:28 asciilifeform kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2014#960128 << you may enjoy this thread
18:28 assbot Logged on 25-12-2014 03:52:10; asciilifeform: every day i wonder why the 'arm' architecture so thoroughly beat 'mips' (closest competitor in the 'risc' world) in the markets
18:29 asciilifeform 'arm
18:29 kakobrekla yes i was reading it real time.
18:29 asciilifeform ' quietly cornered the market in applications where 1) no winblows legacy 2) computation/watt ratio actually matters
18:30 asciilifeform while being a heavily patent-encumbered, baroquely-architectured turd.
18:31 asciilifeform china is cranking out arm clones by the billion, and certainly not all of these roll in the royalty? how does it square with my hypothesis? answer - perfectly.
18:31 asciilifeform just like ussr stamped out single-crystal pdp-11 clones by the millions.
18:31 asciilifeform and for the same reason
18:31 asciilifeform to use 'w4r3z'
18:31 asciilifeform or, more commonly, plagiarized subroutines
18:32 asciilifeform the confucian kingdoms breathe plagiarism like air.
18:33 asciilifeform 'mips' is superior, imho, in virtually every way - and they would crank out mips-en, but where then to crib code wholesale and piecemeal ?
18:33 asciilifeform 'we use arm because everyone uses arm'
18:38 asciilifeform http://labs.online.net/try-it << doesn't appear to work
18:38 assbot Online Labs - ARM servers in the cloud ... ( http://bit.ly/1x269NK )
18:38 kakobrekla works here
18:39 kakobrekla but im not using this, was given a free instance a month or so ago.
18:40 kakobrekla want an invite? if you apply below you will get it never.
18:40 kakobrekla if i send it, it may arrive sometime.
18:41 kakobrekla looks like i can also raise another instance
18:41 kakobrekla if you wanna.
18:43 kakobrekla well lemme know, invite or instance ill brb.
18:52 decimation asciilifeform: there is a direct parallel between the 'bubble' that is arm/x86 and the 'bubble' that is 'USD'
18:52 decimation 'We use it because everyone else uses it'
18:54 asciilifeform kakobrekla: thx, but i don't need these for anything
18:54 kakobrekla dicking around i thought.
18:56 decimation if you want to be the dominant computer arch, you want to be the arch that will host the most warez - in the future
18:57 asciilifeform decimation: this means 'be the darling of the usg crown'
18:57 decimation well, certainly one cannot be enemies with usg or usg's agents
18:57 asciilifeform because that is who ultimately decides what is used in the great slave mines of usa
18:58 asciilifeform incidentally, i bring up 'arm' to remind folks that we are quickly approaching (or perhaps past) the point of being stuck with a turd every bit as odious as x86
18:58 asciilifeform at least intel no longer collects royalties for x86. and does not directly supply the circuit to every producer
18:59 asciilifeform arm - does.
18:59 decimation plus arm comes in 1000 variants
18:59 asciilifeform the instruction set is 'risc' in name only
18:59 asciilifeform it's a mind-blowingly complex piece of shit.
19:00 decimation I was chatting with some cyanogen mod developers about a particular arm-based phone
19:00 asciilifeform iirc, it was designed by a woman. i won't psychiatrize on this point, but let's see what mircea makes of it!
19:01 decimation apparently it is common practice for the vendor to ship broken hardware and paper over defects with a special google-blessed turdware
19:02 decimation also, certain hardware variants of phones are known to have problems with battery discharge, etc
19:02 decimation I mention this because nearly all arm chips come baked in a SoC
19:02 asciilifeform aha.
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19:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 408 @ 0.00464998 = 1.8972 BTC [+] {2}
19:22 BingoBoingo Don't worry. China is baking up Loongson so that there will be another turdwarez platform when the USG can no longer prop up Arm.
19:26 kakobrekla myea, best to trust china :)
19:26 decimation loongson is a mips64 variant
19:26 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: afaik it isn't exactly a flying success.
19:27 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: for instance, i'm unable to find it advertised for sale at anything like a reasonable price, anywhere on the planet
19:27 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: For a long time ARM wasn't either. The point is it exists at the moment mostly to build history so it might seem a credible option later.
19:28 decimation lol the latest version has 'new instructions' in order to emulate x86 according to wikipedia
19:28 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: nothing is being built particular to it!
19:28 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the most that exists is a very straight linux port.
19:29 decimation apparently the best chips are only on the 28nm process
19:29 BingoBoingo Linux ports, BSD (kernel) ports, Windows CE ports...
19:30 decimation it's sad that some enterprising chinaman doesn't try to steal fpga designs/warez
19:30 decimation as asciilifeform has explained in the past, this isn't in their 'dna', but who knows
19:31 decimation perhaps they are an engine waiting for the right driver (to use mircea's analogy)
19:31 asciilifeform i also explained that they have no economic incentive at all to do this.
19:32 decimation the only incentive I can imagine is if the chinese gov't decides to subsidize the project
19:32 decimation but then they wouldn't 'open source' anything
19:33 BingoBoingo Loongson seems to be a "parachute"
19:33 BingoBoingo for China
19:37 asciilifeform according to one source, it's actually a grantsmanship/embezzlement scheme against chinese gov.
19:38 asciilifeform rather than an actual product with a future.
19:40 BingoBoingo Could be both.
19:40 kakobrekla first 1/3 of blockchain is less than 500mb.
19:40 kakobrekla i knew it was small but never actually checked
19:46 BingoBoingo http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2014/12/29/ibuprofen_for_a_longer_life.php
19:46 assbot Ibuprofen For a Longer Life?. In the Pipeline: ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4PlaC )
19:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3985 @ 0.0011625 = 4.6326 BTC [+] {2}
20:08 BingoBoingo !Up badon
20:09 BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/the-kkk-must-stay-on-the-curb-in-desloge-mo/article_59a8a94e-6a91-593d-a83c-826fa031de76.html
20:09 assbot The KKK must stay on the curb in Desloge, Mo. : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1tiPO1X )
20:14 BingoBoingo http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/in-defense-of-looting/
20:14 assbot In Defense of Looting – The New Inquiry ... ( http://bit.ly/1tiQpkk )
20:14 asciilifeform trololol!!!
20:17 asciilifeform 'He retorts the all too common accusation thrown at rioters: “People wanna say we destroying our own neighborhoods. We don’t own nothing out here!”' << what does white man own in usa ?
20:17 BingoBoingo I only link it, because apparently tonight there has been yet another shooting incident in Ferguson. No idea yet if a person has been shot.
20:18 asciilifeform what do 'they' normally shoot there?
20:18 asciilifeform road signs ?
20:18 BingoBoingo Normally they just shoot, but lack the marksmanship to hit anything at all.
20:19 BingoBoingo 'He retorts the all too common accusation thrown at rioters: “People wanna say we destroying our own neighborhoods. We don’t own nothing out here!”' << what does white man own in usa ? << Common mistake of using the general "white man", Whiteman own nothing for being white. Anglo-Saxon-Lizard hybrids though...
20:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: as i understand, the rioters have no truck with lizard hitler; they protest against an imagined comfortable white suburbanite
20:20 asciilifeform who somehow lives off their tears
20:20 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: But to them the white suburbanites have scales.
20:21 BingoBoingo They know of comfortable white suburbanites, but infrequently see them outside of police uniforms.
20:22 BingoBoingo Or at least they did until they moved to Ferguson.
20:22 BingoBoingo And then the comfortable white suburbanites went to more comfortable and more suburban places. Leaving them with white trash
20:27 BingoBoingo But, this being America no one really owns anything.
20:31 undata the looting is just a more illiterate version of the same entitlement the white trash has
20:32 undata everybody in america thinks they were somehow robbed of making it big like everyone else did
20:32 BingoBoingo I dunno that it is much more illiterate. I've met plenty of dumb white folk.
20:34 undata for sure
20:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00065392 = 10.7897 BTC [+]
20:35 asciilifeform neglected detail being, most of the participants, as i understand, aren't ideologically moved
20:35 asciilifeform they go out, same as in usg-sponsored 'colour revolutions', because 'there's action tonight'
20:35 asciilifeform and it's more entertaining than rotgut and tv news.
20:36 undata asciilifeform: yep, during the recent portland "protest" I found a livestream of some hipster there; he was flirting with a girl for the 20sec I watched
20:36 BingoBoingo But... the 3d printed gun dude says burn it all down is an ideology...
20:37 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: then forest fire has ideology
20:37 undata is "it sells" an ideology? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TybFtK6VTVo
20:37 assbot Welcome to Chiraq - Chiraq - Ep 1 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1tiSVXE )
20:37 undata rather, "if it sells"
20:37 BingoBoingo Of course. Fire has metabolism, so it is a living thing. I kill about 20 fires a day when I put out my cigarettes.
20:38 BingoBoingo undata: Chicago this year is poor example. They had a relatively peaceful year... for SHitcago.
20:39 undata BingoBoingo: the video's full of fakers flashing guns
20:40 BingoBoingo St Louis folk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7mhLp0abU
20:40 assbot homicide da union - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1tiTosQ )
20:41 BingoBoingo North County Cowboys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BimcvcFMEM
20:41 assbot north County cowboyz/Feel Me da u.n.i.o.n - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1tiTsZP )
20:45 BingoBoingo Hello
20:46 Pierre_Rochard Hi, I was starting to miss this place
20:47 BingoBoingo Well,... You know IRC is always open... Even when MP's on a vacation that's apparently growing tits
20:47 Pierre_Rochard I’ll have to cook up a script that logs me in and auths automatically whenever I open my laptop, there’s a pyschological barrier when I have a pile of work to do
20:48 Pierre_Rochard that keeps me from opening it myself, but doesn’t keep me off twitter haha
20:48 BingoBoingo Ah, that problem
20:49 BingoBoingo Everyone has to solve it in their own way
20:55 undata Pierre_Rochard: there's always a bouncer
20:55 undata weechat has a pretty nice relay mechanism
21:06 BingoBoingo Come on there isn't a single personal server need that isn't well served by emacs.
21:11 undata BingoBoingo: oh I love emacs; still need something for when you shut the laptop though
21:12 BingoBoingo undata: WHy are you running an emacs IRC bouncer locally on a laptop?
21:12 undata I am not
21:12 undata emacs is on the laptop, mail and IRC are elsewhere
21:13 BingoBoingo Can you not run emacs elsewhere?
21:13 undata why do that when I can get out to elsewhere via tramp?
21:13 undata I've got a pretty dialed in emacs+stumpwm combo I'm happy with locally
21:14 undata weechat.el speaks the weechat IRC relay protocol, and there's mu4e + offlineimap for mail
21:14 BingoBoingo undata: Are you really listing all of these particular pieces of software you depend on.
21:14 BingoBoingo ?
21:16 undata BingoBoingo: you're going to what, attack me via the locally running emacs?
21:18 BingoBoingo No, but... you never know who's reading.
21:18 undata sound advice but I left out plenty
21:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00064808 = 7.0317 BTC [-]
21:30 BingoBoingo OMG MP vacation has been one of the best things to happen to MPOE price... aside from saving OpenBSD.
21:34 BingoBoingo !up jborkl
21:35 jborkl Hey
21:35 BingoBoingo Hey
21:35 jborkl Next article you write for qntra link to me, I will link back
21:36 BingoBoingo jborkl: Shhh... Google would find it, public log and all.
21:36 BingoBoingo Matt Cutts will punish us all!!!
21:36 jborkl Haha yeah we don't want to shit on by the panda
21:37 BingoBoingo Bamboo shits are the worst.
21:37 jborkl Hell yeah
21:43 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://www.computerra.ru/112660/mcst-and-micron-releases-monokub-mb-with-elbrus-2cm-cpu << i don't feel like translating, but - first ru-designed cpu, afaik, this century - hits the press.
21:43 assbot Компьютерра: Первые российские материнские платы появятся в начале 2015 г. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BhguVq )
21:43 asciilifeform ru-designed mb too - but with, looks like, heathen peripherals
21:44 asciilifeform and of course entirely unobtainable in mordor
21:45 * asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't make this, has no idea how much plagiarized heathen 'verilog' etc. is in that thing.
21:46 asciilifeform in other news,
21:46 asciilifeform https://trmm.net/EFI << for some reason nobody brought this up here
21:46 assbot Thunderstrike - Trammell Hudson's Projects ... ( http://bit.ly/1BhgHb9 )
21:47 asciilifeform (summary: crapple bios diddler using subverted external peripheral)
21:48 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Imma guess OpenSparc
21:49 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: not explicitly.
21:50 BingoBoingo Not explicitly, but... Just going off of what my gut feels reading a machine translation
21:51 BingoBoingo Just seeing that combination of busses has me thinking OpenSparc.
21:52 BingoBoingo I could be very wrong.
21:52 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: seems like it's a perverse vliw-ized sparc.
21:53 BingoBoingo Well, isn't that all Open SParc is?
21:54 asciilifeform iirc opensparc is a mostly-traditional sparc.
21:54 asciilifeform anyone who wants one - can go get (it builds for the larger among the common fpga)
21:54 * asciilifeform blows dust off ancient crate
21:55 BingoBoingo Well, crippled in ways. The seemingly easy ways to uncripple for hardcopy rather than rewritable FPGAs is to VLIW it.
21:55 asciilifeform crippled how ?
21:57 BingoBoingo The same way BFL FPGA miners were crippled. Adapted for winblows shit toolchain instead of whatever archane elder less smelly turdchain sun nursed internally.
21:58 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/12/the-swift-institute-calls-for-research-into-risks-faced-by-third-party-payment-providers/
21:58 BingoBoingo We're talking a company (Sun) that took more than a decade to realize they could assemble systems on benches instead of the floor. They have to have/had a legacy non-winblows tool chain that might still be in use.
21:59 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: whatcha talking about, i built it sans winblows
21:59 asciilifeform closes xilinx turd, yes
21:59 asciilifeform *closed
21:59 asciilifeform but no winblows in sight
22:00 BingoBoingo Sure, but what sphicter sculpts the Xilinx turd.
22:00 asciilifeform but the answer to the puzzle of what sun used for logic synthesis - i haven't any idea
22:00 asciilifeform thing is, synthesis for proper asic is nothing like fpga synthesis
22:01 asciilifeform fundamentally different problems
22:01 BingoBoingo Well, considering Solaris 8 did webserving for them well into the solaris 10 life cycle... Prolly Sun OS 3
22:01 asciilifeform fpga is internally very much like the well-known 'eniac'
22:01 asciilifeform with an sram-controlled plugboard rather than physical one
22:01 asciilifeform but the machinery that is 'plugged' together - does not move.
22:02 asciilifeform whereas when you lay out logic for a traditionally fabbed ic, the circuits, well, 'move'
22:02 asciilifeform in that they get placed how you like
22:02 asciilifeform within the constraints of the available chemistry and lithography
22:02 * BingoBoingo really wants a fucking time machine
22:03 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://www.mcst.ru/doc/book_121130.pdf << because you asked. textbook, 'elbrus' system architecture.
22:03 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bhhw3H )
22:05 BingoBoingo Ah
22:06 BingoBoingo From machine translation: Since the structure of stacks of information and communication procedures identical
22:06 BingoBoingo lie in wait, the principle of operation of pumping consider the relation
22:06 BingoBoingo stack procedures. Education evacuation area shown in Fig. 3.7, where
22:06 BingoBoingo it is shown in the pie chart. Its application is based on the cyclic
22:06 BingoBoingo cal resource allocation register file in the formation of the windows:
22:06 BingoBoingo after using the register number 0x6f next number will be
22:06 BingoBoingo 0x00 (borders of windows aligned to kvadroslovu, so the number of pairs
22:06 BingoBoingo registers equals 112).
22:07 BingoBoingo ^ Reeks of Sparcisms
22:07 * asciilifeform cringes
22:08 BingoBoingo It's hard not to.
22:08 BingoBoingo Today is far from my best day
22:09 asciilifeform http://russian.rt.com/article/67122 << another current mega-lol. ua fission plant installs 'westinghouse' fuel rods, begins to leak.
22:09 assbot СМИ: На Запорожской АЭС произошла утечка радиации ... ( http://bit.ly/1BhhOrw )
22:09 asciilifeform (or so claimed)
22:10 BingoBoingo Westinghouse is kind of a knock off GE
22:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00064226 = 12.4598 BTC [-]
22:12 BingoBoingo 'Die another Day' I think was the James Bond movie that had this same plot point.
22:12 thestringpuller that was a good film
22:13 thestringpuller when bond girls were still legit hot
22:19 thestringpuller so just saw a news special about a guy who got electrocuted installing a 35k watt lamp on a movie set
22:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20721 @ 0.00064951 = 13.4585 BTC [+] {2}
22:19 thestringpuller the doctors have no idea why he's fucked up, but they are like "Yea, well he got shocked so that has something to do with it."
22:20 BingoBoingo How many amps?
22:20 thestringpuller i'll find out
22:21 thestringpuller ;;calc 18000 / 220
22:21 gribble 81.8181818182
22:21 thestringpuller probably less cause that's waht the volt Snake Bite was rated at (220)
22:22 thestringpuller https://deadline.com/2014/12/selma-accident-crew-worker-electrocuted-1201338224/ << article in question
22:22 BingoBoingo .1 amp can kill, so... yeah
22:24 thestringpuller set electricians IMO have riskier jobs than power engineers
22:25 thestringpuller set electricals are by definition nigga rigged cause they are temporary. always wanted to be a gaffer/set technician myself, but man.
22:26 thestringpuller "Young negro found dead on set of Mean Girls 3" or some shit they let me work on.
22:26 BingoBoingo Plain current though doesn't put the fear into me though like RF current does... Reasons I never got into Radio
22:27 thestringpuller the unsung heroes
22:27 thestringpuller tower climbing alone puts the fear of god into me
22:27 BingoBoingo I don't have a problem with climbing. I have a problem with the possibility of falling.
22:29 thestringpuller i wouldn't mind the risk so much if the chance of accidents also provided a chance of developing super powers
22:30 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/subhash580/status/550115173533380608/photo/1
22:31 assbot Enjoy the last day of 2014. Stay positive, do something meaningful and be happy! :) http://t.co/LSDgbIQfEe
22:32 TomServo http://www.devfactor.net/2014/12/30/2375-amazon-mistake/
22:32 assbot My $2375 Amazon EC2 Mistake ... ( http://bit.ly/1BhiXiK )
22:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17981 @ 0.00064226 = 11.5485 BTC [-]
22:39 asciilifeform 'Turns out through the S3 API you can actually spin up EC2 instances, and my key had been spotted by a bot that continually searches GitHub for API keys. Amazon AWS customer support informed me this happens a lot recently, hackers have created an algorithm that searches GitHub 24 hours per day for API keys… Once it finds one it spins up max instances of EC2 servers to farm itself bitcoins…' << mega-lol!
22:39 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1KN5AY7.txt )
22:39 BingoBoingo !b 2
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23:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064982 = 7.4079 BTC [+]
23:03 BingoBoingo http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=6579129&cid=48701883
23:03 assbot Slashdot Asks: The Beanies Return; Who Deserves Recognition for 2014? - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1xfakWr )
23:11 thestringpuller http://blogs.indiewire.com/animationscoop/voice-of-babe-dexter-on-dexters-laboratory-chuckie-on-rugrats-christine-cavanaugh-1963-2014-rip-20141230 << so the original dexter died
23:11 thestringpuller :(
23:14 thestringpuller another dead hero
23:19 BingoBoingo !up devthedev
23:19 devthedev BingoBoingo, killing me man
23:19 BingoBoingo devthedev: Who am I not?
23:20 devthedev heh
23:21 BingoBoingo Serious I prolly have a file and it prolly has blanks. Am I missing anybody?
23:22 devthedev The reply aught to be interesting
23:23 BingoBoingo Eh. If anyone takes relationship advice from me they deserve whatever calamity befalls them.
23:23 devthedev Ouch
23:24 BingoBoingo devthedev: Not necessarily ouch to me. You have to remember the part where generally I am a despicable human being.
23:25 Bet created: "Obama Approval Rating over 50% before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1090/
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23:57 * asciilifeform just about emptied wallet paying mr. p for conference-3 ticket. invites #b-a folks to laugh.
23:58 * asciilifeform would have been less said to spend equivalent, e.g., usd, heap
23:58 asciilifeform *less sad
23:58 asciilifeform difference is that i can always get more usd.
23:59 asciilifeform it isn't especially hard
23:59 asciilifeform spending btc is like fissioning away old soviet Pu.
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