#trilema | 2014-06-30

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mod6

%ob

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30k@279 45k@277 48k@275 | 930k@199 750k@175 216k@160

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motherfucker even had the temerity to ask how much cash survant james had on hand

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the nerve!

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Mar 20 21:17:52 <ninjashogun>(You're not going to like this answer, but for my suggested Version 2: Wifi has less trust implicit architecturally it is not possible to automount a usb keyboard over wifi. You woudl have to break the wifi protocol, or use it in an unintended way as a carrier for other internal data) << Moment he became an UnSavory Garnish

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ninjashogun> Btw I'm not the only founder you guys have trolled and ninjashogun> I can dox someone else from -assets that you guys absolutely trolled, who is a real-world VC and multi-millionaire are quotes from latest PM'ing of me

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I dunno if he really pays attention here, because of late we've been talking alot about Marc Andressussuusenuen.

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Appologies on the spelling, but reality distortion field

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hue hue hue i just got an email back from pg@ycombinator.com disavowing "robert viragh"

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Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0VPB65Z.txt )

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!b 1

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When he first mentioned the startup name I though he ould have been Colin.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00082442 = 28.6074 BTC [-] {3}

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;;later tell ninjashogun http://dpaste.com/0VPB65Z.txt

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The operation succeeded.

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mr spam & his claims reminds me of 1st grade in ussr. kid-1: 'my father can beat up your father' kid-2: 'my father is a general!' kid-3: 'my father is a general and has own tank!' kid-4: 'well! my father...'

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1st grade in USA not that long ago we just beat each other up to establish things

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the exchange described above usually happened in class, where you can't square off

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You forget USA children are uncontrollable monsters

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one of the few interesting things about our local turdmeister is how his scriptwriter was supplied with a defective 'world build' narrative by the brass. e.g. that folks in this channel eat, sleep, jerk off to, the eternal dream of being uplifted into the vc circus

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37350 @ 0.00083173 = 31.0651 BTC [+] {2}

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e.g. the plot of american tv series 'silicon valley'

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Little do they realize that this channel is largely a bunch of happy paupers

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A canvas upon which the brass may project their insecurities

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00082748 = 10.2608 BTC [-]

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<benkay> i need a caning << talk to moiety, she's gotta unionize after this

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<benkay> hey asciilifeform you've done it too get off my case << best argument ever </sarcasm>

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!up Lycerion

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<BingoBoingo> Little do they realize that this channel is largely a bunch of happy paupers << it wouldn't surprise me if stoics were indeed the majority.

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'if only one could slake hunger by rubbing stomach.'

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that's the different sort. cynics.

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aye

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asciilifeform happy cynic

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not so sure how many hedonists we got really.

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if cynic must watch for falling turtle - what does stoic watch for ?

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mircea_popescu: My point is how many here other than the brazen and very old to the BTC game have secret fortunes that could be easily or completely enumerated by an outsider.

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asciilifeform stoic doesn't watch, stoic sleeps

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To a ninjashogun we can be very poor indeed. To anyone we enter an OTC trade with we can have a bit more than exactly enough to trasnact.

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so i'm going to check out uruguay. if i don't show up for a day or so, don't panic, i still love you.

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Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3WY2JDX.txt )

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!b 1

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what's noteworthy in uruguay ?

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or - just because it's there

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A little of column B, a little there's girls there is prolly the mix

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strategy's strategy.

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;;google uruguay tits

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Tits-fashion Uruguay | Facebook: <http://es-es.facebook.com/fashion.tits>; Tits-fashion Uruguay - Photos | Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/fashion.tits/photos_stream>; TITS fashion Uruguay (TITSFashion) on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/TITSFashion>

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In other news, there is a downside to restoring and seasoning ancient cast iron... Suddenly you get a hunger for everything in the fridge and freezer.

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Fry 3 pounds of shrimp, sure. throw two pounds of those in an 8 egg omlette? Why the fuck not.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082422 = 3.3793 BTC [-]

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Once I get through the mess of leftovers I might finally get to start training these skillets on old favorites like headcheese scrambled in eggs.

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BingoBoingo: secret fortunes << lol

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asciilifeform owns proverbial 'last shirt'

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asciilifeform: I imagine for ~90% of people who have BTC fortunes an aren't retards with ridiculous burn rates, they wait for the terraforming wrought by more adventurous holders

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Mar 20 21:52:16 <ninjashogun>On the other hand for text analysis reasons I don't think he should post even anonymized quotes. Most people's writing is extremely characteristic << The UnSavory Garnish reveals he is indeed a Vegetable

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My greatest hope for the week is that I find I can begin working at a library for dollars, cutting the BTC burn rate to below zero

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BingoBoingo is running on batteries ?

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Sand

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I run on entropy like any good crypto process

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"happy accidents"

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I tire of "happy accidents" though, last year held too many.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8446 @ 0.00082529 = 6.9704 BTC [+]

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There is exactly one sort of happy Accident I can suggest happens with some certainty if anyone needs such a thing.

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How to cover such a thing is an exercise for people who study these things.

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But, due to name, anytime line betting operators give Serena William's opponent decimal odds less than 10, there is opportunity to either have or create a "happy accident"

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This particular "happy accident" has reliably worked since last summer. Implementation as always though is ledt to the reader to their ability.

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http://coinurl.com/ads/banner/5350dde3330d7544752266_CEX-Referral%20728x90.png

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how can this be in the same line, "100% profitable" and "no scam"

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lol

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didn't say profitable 'for whom'

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lol

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myea i guess.

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BingoBoingo: i suspect you might be the only one here who knows the first thing about the craft of sports bet.

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Between the lines I never suppose a necessary second ot third party asciilifeform

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do i misunderstand - to win in a bet, some fellow has to bet on... other sid

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e

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Only the happy accident of seeing an overpriced big name attract too much money to her side and the profit of whoever takes it

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asciilifeform: of course if it is indeed a bet, but what if one wants to turn ancient, yet heretofore deniable coins liquid?

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You move the ancient coins in a way that feigns a rougue BTC sports book, withdraw as apportunity presents and record that for the soldering iron.

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At some point the book you played on folds...

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beats buying miners...

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And the ancient coins slumber again for a while.

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How much effort and time goes into the pretense of happy accidents is a test of one's tolerance for rectal heating.

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incidentally: whatever happened to the automatic multi-chain coin exchange?

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Which one?

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the one operated purely by magic transactions

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There's like 100 of those nao.

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wait where?

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Open Transactions.

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Start a server, trade with yourself.

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not sure if this is the same thing

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Oh, knotwork isn't here nao

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asciilifeform: It isn't but I offered the more deniable choice.

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idea was, you send, e.g. some btc to addr A, in n parcels. low bits of the parcels encode, e.g. an ltc address. to which the corresponding amount of ltc is then sent.

↖

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Open Transactions>Colored Coins> Mastercoin>NxT...

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New blog post: http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/06/30/only-the-black-market-matters/

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i described this here when first found the channel, somebody (mp?) said, 'this is being built'

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I dunno that scheme

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afaik it was described only... here.

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idea being 'provably fair exchange'

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Ive heard things like this described. OpenTransaction is the only close to working way I know to do this with yourself though.

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afaik that's just an attempt at a standard format for signing 'buy' & 'sell' proclamations ?

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Honestly for all of the NxT and Mastercoin Derp, I think knotwork actually had the whole stack working well first on OT

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rather than an actual means of running exchange that can be operated purely through blockchain activity

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The Base unit he chose, devcoin

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asciilifeform is unfamiliar with the listed derps

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Everyone needs to know a corner of derps

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Honestly my biggest problem with a lot of the cryptocoin derps isn't that they don't know the history, but that they don't know how many corners the history has.

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Much of the best 2012-2013 history at the advent of asics is samizdat

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All of namecoin history is basically that.

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For a couple months I made it my mission to shove as much video into the NMC blockchain as possible

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;;later tell mike_c niggers.txt

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The operation succeeded.

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;; later tell mike_c seriously we need to have a talk about WoL

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The operation succeeded.

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;;later tell justusranvier Where have you been? I'll start polishing a hickory stick for you to use.

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The operation succeeded.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27883 @ 0.00082529 = 23.0116 BTC [+]

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OMG Cryptsy DOGE and Vircurex DOGE are a parity at 44 satoshis per

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BingoBoingo: ?

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justusranvier: Your Blackmarket article.

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What about it?

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I look more at the Grey market, but... sympathize with you that the power of BTC as better money materializes first in areas that need money most.

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It's a simple matter of math. If you want to run a successful venture, then target the potential customer base that is growing rather than the one that is shrinking

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082529 = 3.3012 BTC [+]

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Right. I just though it was timed with a conversation I was supposing wherein for some people the most profitable market might be a synthetic grey market against themselves

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In other news justusranvier My brother's dog gets its stutches out tomorrow. My brother isn't a synthetic of you is he???

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That's creepy.

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It happens.

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You aren;t a dentist are you?

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I am not a dentist

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Then you aren't my brother and he is not you.

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Good to know

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Story for the dog injury differs a bit.

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So, F. My brother and his wife's dog is mostly corgi, the rest other herding dogs. Plays alpha in all of his canine interactions or else spirals into depression.

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Brother and wife babysat a "puppy (80 lb pitbull mix)"

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Frank walked by while the "puppy" was guarding a 'bear (stuffed animal)' under the coffee table.

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The puppy bit F. the dog I think is cool. Details start getting vague.

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F. goes to the vet gets stitched. Pitbull mix lives, because... I dunno why.

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artifexd

;;ticker

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Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 613.25, Best ask: 613.26, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 613.25, 24 hour volume: 3782.25595179, 24 hour low: 590.0, 24 hour high: 618.7, 24 hour vwap: 603.100162552

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I dunno why I think this is important (or do I WANT) the CIA/NSA/OMGWTFBBQ to think I am a drunk????

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Both of my dogs are bitches. They squabble fairly frequently, but don't need to draw blood.

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What I know is that since I like F. the "puppy" would have been corrected more efficiently if I was there. F. weights just about 30 lbs...

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Mostly hair

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F. also has immaculate ettiquette around infants.

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For some 80 lb pitbill puppy to lay teeth on F.... I regert not being there to treat him as one does a coyote.

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Except. Coyotes seems to price risk well and leave when I piss on their favorite dumpsters.

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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect you might be the only one here who knows the first thing about the craft of sports bet. << Not much craft really, mostly pricing risk for puchase or sale\

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00082422 = 3.4617 BTC [-]

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%ob

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30k@279 45k@277 48k@275 | 930k@199 750k@175 216k@160

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%t

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[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 275 Last Price: 222 24h-Vol: 95k High: 238 Low: 199 VWAP: 222

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http://oglaf.com/pomp/

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pomp

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[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 42 @ 0.01304657 = 0.548 BTC [+] {3}

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.03799 = 0.7978 BTC [+] {2}

02:27

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43000 @ 0.00082418 = 35.4397 BTC [-] {2}

~ 15 minutes ~

02:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.0008238 = 21.0069 BTC [-] {2}

02:47

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.19297246 = 2.3157 BTC [-] {6}

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[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 135 @ 0.03079906 = 4.1579 BTC [-]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00082356 = 18.283 BTC [-] {3}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12362 @ 0.00082613 = 10.2126 BTC [+] {2}

03:03

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00082762 = 8.4417 BTC [+] {2}

~ 16 minutes ~

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42250 @ 0.00082855 = 35.0062 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44600 @ 0.00083052 = 37.0412 BTC [+] {4}

~ 16 minutes ~

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.038 = 1.52 BTC [+] {2}

~ 23 minutes ~

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 115 @ 0.03795895 = 4.3653 BTC [-] {3}

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why is sepa so slow :(

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btc goes +30 eur between the day I command the wire and now

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that's actually why otc is nice, we fix the price before

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otc does not use sepa?

~ 21 minutes ~

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everytime I've bought, the price was fixed beforehand

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well my bank is closed today I think, so that won't be today either

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00082449 = 17.2731 BTC [-]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42200 @ 0.00082406 = 34.7753 BTC [-] {4}

04:47

davout

hello -assets

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;;ticker

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Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 630.31, Best ask: 632.94, Bid-ask spread: 2.63000, Last trade: 630.31, 24 hour volume: 8073.41651022, 24 hour low: 590.0, 24 hour high: 639.2, 24 hour vwap: 616.667553759

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i made the price go up!

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Naphex

gz!

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Naphex

:P

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https://twitter.com/oleganza/status/483256552938536960 that was a the top of reddit. someone still on twitter tell him to bitbet or stfu :)

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Tomorrow US will announce auction winners for confiscated 30K bitcoins. I predict the price will be at least 3x the market (>$1800/btc).

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someone else redditted that they knew all the winning bids

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all bullshit

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pump!

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.0379789 = 1.4812 BTC [+] {2}

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pankkake i still don't understand. regardless if you sell at otc or on exchange, the moment sepa transfer is initiated, the price is fixed anyway

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or do you have some trick for otc?

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jurov: I want to buy, but I can't because the wire isn't done yet

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oh buying

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 170 @ 0.03381006 = 5.7477 BTC [-] {11}

~ 18 minutes ~

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44392 @ 0.00082603 = 36.6691 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00082289 = 23.6169 BTC [-]

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;;later tell oleganza next time bet instead of twit http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/

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BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 days 10 hours ago

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The operation succeeded.

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ThickAsThieves: you mean this thread - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29geoq/i_have_a_friend_in_the_usms_and_i_know_the_sale/

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I have a friend in the USMS and I know the sale price. Ask me any details you want. : Bitcoin

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1458 @ 0.00082621 = 1.2046 BTC [+]

~ 20 minutes ~

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;;later tell moiety it arrived safely - and thanks for the sweets!

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The operation succeeded.

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;;rated moiety

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You rated user moiety on Sat May 3 17:09:00 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: the Cat Lady of Bitcoin Assets.

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;;rate moiety 3 handler of goods, logistician extraordinaire, lover of manuls

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Rating entry successful. Your rating for user moiety has changed from 1 to 3.

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http://i.imgur.com/wOkCtCK.jpg

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can't believe they can jam 1tb into that

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.03205462 = 0.8655 BTC [-] {3}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00082974 = 3.9828 BTC [+]

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http://torrentfreak.com/parents-pirate-site-admin-sentenced-money-laundering-140628/

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Parents of Pirate Site Admin Sentenced For Money Laundering | TorrentFreak

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.20509999 = 0.8204 BTC [+] {2}

08:06

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25002 @ 0.00082616 = 20.6557 BTC [-] {3}

08:07

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6348 @ 0.00082289 = 5.2237 BTC [-]

~ 26 minutes ~

08:33

[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 393 @ 0.00215227 = 0.8458 BTC [-] {3}

08:34

[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 357 @ 0.00216405 = 0.7726 BTC [+]

~ 37 minutes ~

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kakobrekla: how can this be in the same line, "100% profitable" and "no scam" << maybe you should be banned from reading advertisings.

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maybe the copywriter is dyslexic

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Confirmed total: 15001 BTC << look at that, bitbet passed 15k bet

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grats!

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question, what if we don't find out what the coins were purchased for at auction today, and we have to wait for a FOIA request or such? (re: http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/)

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BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 days 13 hours ago

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bet has resolution date of today

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[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 6492 @ 0.00018905 = 1.2273 BTC [-] {26}

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a ty

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so we wait

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there's precedent, some miner bet was delayed a week

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how come nobody has made a brainwallet for GPG yet? however stupid that would be.

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oh never mind, found it https://github.com/arttukasvio/deterministic

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arttukasvio/deterministic GitHub

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let me point out it'd be pretty stupid

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oh cool. I would have thought the ginormous key size prevented it

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why?

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narrow keyspace

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lol the project has a web interface

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jesus

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all kinds of crap in there

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anyway, you need about 9 or 10 dicelisted words.

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as a bare minimum

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<+mircea_popescu> so we wait /// perfect, thx

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funny how the Cardano doesn't exist yet, and it already modified my crypto processes

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mostly related to hardware keylogging and $5 wrench attack

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https://github.com/ronnix/oneid

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ronnix/oneid GitHub

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i wonder what that is

09:39

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.0127 = 0.508 BTC [+]

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just a read-only namecoin web frontend. like nameid.org

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didnt know about nameid.org

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just seeing if anyone has made a fancier WoT

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http://oneid.io/pankkake https://nameid.org/?name=pankkake

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doesn't really provide WoT, just unique identities

09:43

word

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davout, i forget what we ended up guessing, but i have a more recent info-share that says 1PH cost more like $500,000 now. Not sure if that was for chips only though...

09:45

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43800 @ 0.00083129 = 36.4105 BTC [+] {3}

09:49

ThickAsThieves: you have a note waiting as "ThickasTheives"

09:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00082851 = 15.4103 BTC [-]

09:51

i think may have seen it

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;;notes

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I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, bitcoinpete, buanzo, Cametam, EricNakamoto, fbastage, frankenmint, Immukization, iwilcox, moiety, mrbutler, ninjashogun, nubbins, oleganza, organofcorti, phelps, Phinnaeus, plezoh, princesnell, princessnell, ryepdx, sic_nic, starsoccer9, ThickasTheives, and tweeeaks.

09:51

;;notes ThickasTheives

09:51

Sent 2 weeks, 5 days, 11 hours, and 32 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> Altcoin is holding me back.

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hehe

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I'll tell Altcoin to ease up on ya BingoBoingo

09:55

looks like someone did the FOIA already http://bitquant.wordpress.com/2014/06/28/bitcoin-foia-request/

09:55

Bitcoin FOIA Request | bitquant

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<BingoBoingo> Brother and wife babysat a "puppy (80 lb pitbull mix)" // lol some puppy

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.191 = 0.955 BTC [-]

10:11

!up zoinky

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!up powergorilla

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PowerGorilla

huh ty

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zoinky

hello

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hello

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pankkake: doesn't exist yet, and it already modified my crypto processes >> impatient man can, theoretically, make his own, just based on the description.

10:19

http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/06/30/125207/julian-assange-plans-modeling-debut-at-london-fashion-show

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Julian Assange Plans Modeling Debut At London Fashion Show - Slashdot

10:20

subject of dogs, my monster was just eating breakfast when something happened outside that caught his attention. he howled at it but with a throat full of food so it came out in this hilariously muffled "wooooOOoOooOOoo", after which he coughed his food up onto the floor, 'cause naturally the body doesn't like doing all of those things at the same time.

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after the distraction passed, he went back to the pile of food on the floor and cleaned it up.

10:21

fucking disgusting, and yet.

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<3 pooch

10:21

benkay:;;later tell mike_c https://atc.waroflife.com/rules/minigame/1/ "this page" has no link. << oops. thx.

10:21

War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!

10:22

morning, mike.

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g'morning

10:23

Mats_cd03

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hi qt

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how you doin babe

10:23

get a job yet?

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ya

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boring job. still IT slave.

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but...lots of free time at work to learn things i wanna do. like reversing

10:27

;;later tell BingoBoingo i'm here, fire away

10:27

The operation succeeded.

10:29

Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/974/

10:33

Bet created: "Yen to strengthen against Dollar" http://bitbet.us/bet/975/

10:40

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00083232 = 13.0674 BTC [+]

10:43

!up mp_on_a_boat

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o hai

10:43

hey hey

10:43

;;ticker

10:43

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 620.07, Best ask: 621.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.93000, Last trade: 621.0, 24 hour volume: 11302.36777974, 24 hour low: 592.01, 24 hour high: 639.2, 24 hour vwap: 618.817826703

10:44

so is it going all the way to 670 prior to usms disclosure ?

10:44

hard to say, but i think we'll have more uppage

10:44

no idea if auction winners an dprice will be shared today

10:47

http://d1pylxt2kmk9m6.cloudfront.net/assets/fleet/vessel-01-01-c7bdc0b1d7e39412b0bd8f5b7347986d.jpg

10:47

norwegian made they say

10:48

mp_on_a_boat: yours? or chartered

10:48

nah, normal ferry service

10:50

when do we get mp_on_atomic_dirigible ?!

10:52

only after we have an airforce.

10:53

wtf, i dun wanna be flying around in the clay pigeon

10:53

lol

10:54

o boy such log.

10:55

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97855 @ 0.00083262 = 81.476 BTC [+] {2}

10:55

BingoBoingo: For a couple months I made it my mission to shove as much video into the NMC blockchain as possible << why ?

10:55

dirigibles don't work on the moon

10:56

justusranvier: It's a simple matter of math. If you want to run a successful venture, then target the potential customer base that is growing rather than the one that is shrinking << complex. take one of the largest scams out there, the LVHM conglomerate.

10:58

they pretend to sell to the shrinking market (young hawt chicks) to then sell inclusion to the growingt market (ugly fat broads)

10:59

pretend to sell to the rich, sell to the poor

11:01

yeap

11:01

BEST BELIEVE HE'S ON A MOTHERFUCKING BOAT, YO

11:01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfISlGLNU&feature=kp

11:01

I'm On A Boat (ft. T-Pain) - Album Version - YouTube

11:01

lol

11:01

you threatenin; me ?

11:02

fluffypony: oh, that's maybe why this on a boat was tingling me

11:02

mp_on_a_boat: you gotta listen to that song, but probably not around children

11:02

a ok. well there's these blondy 6yos running all around.

11:02

safe ?

11:02

as long as they don't understand the word "fuck" it's fine

11:02

or you have headphones

11:03

yeah, right. this exists.

11:04

fluffypony, gotta love the lyrics

11:04

so deep

11:05

Apocalyptic: ikr, it's the very meaning of life right there

11:05

right thurrrrr

11:05

I feel ya

11:05

this boat is real!

11:05

dude this sucks. when did this rebellion happen when all o youze are doing the porn and im all nsfFw

11:06

oh speaking of which, there was a cheap porn star / photographer at the conference

11:06

I was surprised the image you posted was SFW

11:06

http://twitter.com/giajordan

11:06

gia jordan (giajordan) auf Twitter

11:07

did you tell her she could get 0.1 BTC easily?

11:07

lol

11:07

I avoided talking to her

11:07

why ? postcoital halitosis ?

11:08

mp_on_a_boat: nah, she just wasn't one of those fun pornstars, she was one of those still-at-the-bottom-looking-for-a-rich-boyfriend types

11:09

mp_on_a_boat: why'd you snip the end off the cocksnipper tale? it has a proper end.

11:09

and she had an annoying accent

11:09

mp_on_a_boat: There are always outliers. Imagine a hypothetical experiment where you start 100 companies with the goal of capturing growning shares of shriking markets, and another 100 companies that try to gain market share in growing markets, and at the end see which group ends up better on average.

11:09

from LA or something

11:09

fluffypony, lol ok.

11:09

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00083296 = 15.0766 BTC [+]

11:09

asciilifeform, ah ?

11:09

maybe it was tacked on after you translated

11:09

justusranvier, i think that arrangement may suffer from statistical problems i don't readily grasp.

11:10

asciilifeform, ah in romanian ? meh, that part was retarded.

11:10

curating children mostly consists of discretely snipping the stupid parts.

11:10

lol

11:11

Bet placed: 1.2 BTC for No on "Bitcoin difficulty to fall in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/871/ Odds: 35(Y):65(N) by coin, 36(Y):64(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.7251147 BTC. Current weight: 84,941.

11:12

funny how redditarded the redditafrds are. guy has priviledged unpublic information, what does he do, are we asked to believe ?

11:13

'pump.'

11:13

a) puts it on reddit, to gain redditard fame worth 0.00x ltc ; b) bets on bitbet, mto gain whatever it is by now

11:13

!up mp_on_a_boat

11:13

shame on you assbot!

11:16

pankkake: mostly related to hardware keylogging and $5 wrench attack << win.

11:16

ThickAsThieves: davout, i forget what we ended up guessing, but i have a more recent info-share that says 1PH cost more like $500,000 now. Not sure if that was for chips only though... << sounds like chip only.

11:17

chip only << it really isn't hard to mount these yourself. odd that no one has fessed up to doing so.

11:18

(all you need is a reflow oven. can buy chinese for around $1k (USD) or build the classical recipe from old toaster)

11:18

(and, optionally, a dentist's xray tube)

11:19

benkay:fucking disgusting, and yet. <<< i guess you never told a girl "if you throw up im going to make you fucking eat it up" and then carried through ?

11:21

Those of us who do not participate in the underground economy are often unaware of its breadth: it grew to include one half of the worlds workers by 2009, and is projected to include two-thirds of workers by 2020. << this is important. i make it a point to contribute whenever possible. my cards here for instance ? paid cash, no paper trail, 20% discount for me and so another hundred bucks added to the free world.

11:22

because make no mistake about it, what the scum of this world calls "black market" is actually the free world.

11:22

the bexzz

11:23

the bezzle economy is a crime against humanity.

11:24

anyway, excellent point from justusranvier. at this rate ima end up a negligible voice in this space or some shit.

11:24

"Every time a new startup launches, or a new software project announces, ask one question: Does this new thing improve the black market?

11:24

If the answer to this question is no, then the thing is useless."

11:25

i mean look at that shit.

11:25

<mp_on_a_boat> benkay:fucking disgusting, and yet. <<< i guess you never told a girl "if you throw up im going to make you fucking eat it up" and then carried through ? // lol no sir

11:26

didn't a few states start accounting for the black market in their GDP?

11:26

i've seen the odd near-puke mid bj, but that's not quite the same now

11:26

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/30/isis-announces-islamic-caliphate-iraq-syria

11:26

Isis announces Islamic caliphate in area straddling Iraq and Syria | World news | theguardian.com

11:26

pankkake: They'll soon have to, because within the next 5-19 years that will be the only economy

11:26

5-10

11:27

*

justusranvier has difficulty typing right now due to a broken thumb

11:27

pankkake, didn't France too ?

11:27

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/07/spains-black-market-economy-is-worth-20-of-its-gdp/277840/ that was a year ago

11:27

Spain's Black Market Economy Is Worth 20% of Its GDP - Roberto A. Ferdman - The Atlantic

11:27

I don't know, I heard it on the radio while waking up, so I'm fuzzy on who did it

11:27

gotta inflate the number somehow to show growth am I right

11:27

they can count it lal the want

11:28

my neighboiurs are counting all the girls vcoming up to my floor too.

11:28

Italy did it for sure

11:28

and afaik it was some UE-wide recommendation

11:29

anyway, off i go. late trall!

11:32

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52750 @ 0.00083105 = 43.8379 BTC [-] {3}

11:40

mp is on a boat?

11:40

...i should buy a boat...

11:42

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03571 = 0.7142 BTC [+]

11:43

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19101174 = 0.573 BTC [+] {2}

11:45

zero ev boat

11:46

benkay is just a hater

11:47

justusranvier: you can get anything on the black market lol

11:47

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00083016 = 8.3016 BTC [-] {2}

11:52

*

asciilifeform as a boy thought 'black market' was an actual market, that one could actually go to. because, at the time and place... it was.

11:52

BigBitz

TradeFortress in -otc :)

11:57

asciilifeform: incidentally: whatever happened to the automatic multi-chain coin exchange? << I've seen some theoretical solution - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Atomic_cross-chain_trading

11:57

Atomic cross-chain trading - Bitcoin

12:00

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] [PAID] 3.50000000 BTC to 40`000 shares, 8750 satoshi per share

12:01

dignork: there is no actual need for the specialized altchain

12:01

yep, but first solution doesn't need one

12:02

dignork: unless i misunderstand - btc protocol as presently implemented cannot do this

12:02

'if (x for H(x) known and signed by B)'

12:05

[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] [PAID] 5.00000000 BTC to 50`000 shares, 10000 satoshi per share

12:05

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00083012 = 8.7163 BTC [-]

12:07

asciilifeform: it's non-standard tx, but i think it's a valid script

12:08

did y'all see the "sleep as competitive advantage" link on the nyt today?

12:09

asciilifeform: https://blockchain.info/tx/15c2b9bc3b93e0c0a037c5fa8402d0e34e13d3bb0ce7fca65888e5d24e597dcc << spent by secret word(s)

12:09

Bitcoin Transaction 15c2b9bc3b93e0c0a037c5fa8402d0e34e13d3bb0ce7fca65888e5d24e597dcc

12:10

benkay: just saw it but didn't read it, is it good?

12:10

meh.

12:11

the girl's recently gotten rather militant about our sleep schedules - i'm interested in the topic at large.

12:13

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00082978 = 27.4657 BTC [-] {2}

12:15

my goal is always 8 hours a night

12:15

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39962 @ 0.00082881 = 33.1209 BTC [-] {2}

12:18

<benkay> the girl's recently gotten rather militant about our sleep schedules - i'm interested in the topic at large. < mine had that idea at some point as well. now i go to sleep when she wakes up.

12:20

pfshaha

12:21

what - do you not actually want to spend any time with her?

12:21

there'll still be an overlap of 8 hours wake time

12:21

or 12, depending how much kakobrekla sleeps.

12:21

i do, just 16 a day is way way too much

12:23

bingo

12:25

isn't 8 hours the norm?

12:25

and sleep debt

12:31

ah, kakobrekla you and she are both in the house all day then?

12:33

now - for my favorite part of django archaeology: why is this code that should be getting called not getting called?

12:37

benkay mostly. she works at home and i, well, you know me.

12:41

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.0355 = 0.781 BTC [+]

12:41

;;later tell mircea_popescu mp_on a boat To experiment with blockchain bloat. Thankfully NMC miners don't like big transactions

12:41

The operation succeeded.

12:48

hey bingo.

12:49

you had feedback from your wol binge?

12:53

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00082821 = 14.7835 BTC [-] {2}

12:57

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.0355 = 0.781 BTC [+]

12:57

mike_c: Yeah. I'm noticing the bomb mechanics seem vulnerable to last minute sniping with a bid one unit higher. I dunno if time weight or maybe making bomb type a chance based on the size of life or death pools might make things more interesting

12:59

mike_c: about bomb sniping, you could let people bid in advance (maybe with some limit logic), so they don't have to watch until the last minute

12:59

problem with making it odds based on pool is that it offers reducing incentive to contribute. i fell on the side of winner take all being more interesting. i am not married to it though.

12:59

Also mike_c How sure are you that the decimal odds on the order/chaos minigame are... correct.

12:59

the site's not broke yet :)

12:59

Cool

13:00

mike_c, I'd love another button that lets me step frame by frame

13:01

punkman: well, bids are based on what makes it into a block. could you describe what you mean a bit?

13:01

punkman: noted.

13:01

the animation, I want to watch it slowly

13:01

got that. not sure what you meant about bomb-in-advance bidding

13:02

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.61231584 BTC to 10`784 shares, 14951 satoshi per share

13:03

like let me bid 50 on the last round before the next bomb, without having to wait for the Next Bomb timer go down to 1 or 2

13:04

hm. i'll have to think through mechanics/implementation of that. seems like it would just make the bomb pot hidden until all the bets landed on the last frame.

13:04

That would be sweet

13:04

would it? silent auction instead of open?

13:05

BingoBoingo, btw looks like your friend TF is back on IRC

13:05

mike_c, also in wishlist, simulate further rounds assuming no more bombs go off, probably not very useful, but it'd be nice to watch

13:05

Apocalyptic: Fuck it, I'm hung over. Anything that needed to be said has prolly been said already.

13:05

punkman: that is actually very doable. it's on the list somewhere.

13:06

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00082694 = 33.0776 BTC [-] {2}

13:06

or maybe simulate with random bombs so it's different every time

13:06

heh. that is more an excercise for the interested player.

13:07

why's the minigame so slow btw?

13:07

to load you mean?

13:07

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0355 = 0.71 BTC [+]

13:07

is it one minigame at a time for everyone?

13:07

no

13:07

slow to start game, place bets

13:08

can't lose my money fast enough!

13:08

well that's a problem!

13:08

myeah

13:08

a recognized one. it's currently a polling architecture. i want to switch it to sockets, which would speed it up.

13:09

http://blog.paymium.com/2014/06/30/introducing-paymium-pay-with-bitcoin-merchant-solution/

13:09

Introducing Paymium ‘Pay with Bitcoin’ Merchant Solution | Paymium

13:10

mike_c: great game btw, can't wait to see how it works with more players

13:10

thanks. i am encouraged by early feedback. it will continue to get better.

13:12

mike_c, is there a reason it doesn't have any sort of time weight when buying shares?

13:13

the weighting is different from time (and better imo).

13:13

it's weighted by current board state.

13:13

yeah I see that

13:13

so, for example in game 10, the best time to buy death was frame 1

13:13

cuz now it's more expensive

13:13

the best time to buy life is still to be determined.

13:14

unless life storms back, in which case you could get death cheaper later.

13:15

in any case, point is that there is a shifting balance that rewards paying attention at multiple points through the game as opposed to rewards just decreasing over time.

13:15

making people think. always a dubious idea.

13:15

heh. improved help is also on the list. i'm thinking video tutorials.

13:16

yeah but let's say death stays at %70 for the rest of the game. Someoney buying 1k ATC at year 950 gets the same amount as the guy that bought on year 437. Shouldn't the earlier guy win more?

13:17

it's like an option. a guy who buys the option early is buying time value.

13:17

now, in your case that time value didn't work out.

13:17

doesn't mean he didn't have an advantage when he bought it

13:17

in effect, he lost the bet that buying early would be advantageous

13:18

see what happens when you get me blabbing about this? too much blabbing.

13:18

I see

13:18

wait this is too much blabbing?

13:18

i gotz work to do!

13:19

this is not too much blabbing. the internals are v. interesting.

13:19

no no less code more talk

13:19

but j/k, feedback is much desired.

13:20

<+kakobrekla> making people think. always a dubious idea. << also, minigames require no thought :)

13:23

%d

13:23

[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 390045.54 in 1244 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -23.75

13:29

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-26/barclays-not-smart

13:29

Barclays Not Smart - Bloomberg View

13:32

haw

13:35

"When you just put institutional investors in a pool that excludes high-frequency traders, they have a hard time trading with each other. There's not, it turns out, all that much natural liquidity." << This

13:36

davout

GOAAAAAL

13:37

davout

in the 2014 world cup it's the french that have urgent proposals for nigeria

13:37

"The chart is a chart of how much chart there is." << lol

13:43

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2014/06/facebook_experiments_on_users_they_ve_got_more_in_store.html

13:43

Facebook experiments on users: They’ve got more in store!

13:43

davout: from French princes?

13:46

BingoBoingo: depends on what HFT means for them

13:54

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00083127 = 9.144 BTC [+]

13:57

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 43 @ 0.012892 = 0.5544 BTC [+] {3}

~ 17 minutes ~

14:14

New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/30/why-do-we-have-freedoms/

14:24

hey bitcoinpete

14:24

hey dude

14:25

how's it going?

14:27

bitcoinpete: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29cz6c/im_tired_of_people_thinking_their_altcoins_are/cijz7gc

14:27

immibis comments on I'm tired of people thinking their altcoins are superior because they have shorter block times

14:27

I lol'd all the way through

14:28

fluffypony: lol dat thinking

14:28

bitstein: quite nicely, it's a beautiful, quiet day here

14:28

most people have the day off because tmrw is a holiday for canada day

14:29

how's it with you?

14:29

oh and rather looking forward to the germany game. just so they can score 1 more goal!

14:30

lol canada day

14:30

bitcoinpete you're in Toronto right?

14:30

Has anyone done Brawndocoin yet? It's got electrolytes.

14:30

fluffypony: edmonton. gateway to the north ;)

14:30

justusranvier: it's got what plants crave? shut up and take my money!

14:30

Brawndocoin - the transaction mutilator. It's got what blockchains crave.

14:31

bitcoinpete: ah ok - Peter Todd was talking about the Bitcoin crowd in Toronto, made me think of you

14:32

a yes, the to crowd...

14:32

they do the "alliance" and "ethereum" schemes

14:33

[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 47 @ 0.03509467 = 1.6494 BTC [-] {7}

14:33

Very innovative. Much 2.0.

14:35

2.0: a euphemism for pre-mined pumps and dumps

14:35

I'm waiting for the Bitcoin Assets Foundation to start

14:35

http://www.bis.org/speeches/sp140629.pdf

14:36

"Most importantly, if they persist too long, ultra-low rates could validate and entrench a highly undesirable type of equilibrium – one of high debt, low interest rates and anaemic growth."

14:37

"Central bank balance sheets – including the Fed’s – have continued to expand and now exceed $20 trillion in aggregate, worldwide."

14:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32950 @ 0.00083185 = 27.4095 BTC [+]

14:40

Speech by Jaime Caruana, General Manager, Bank for International Settlements

14:50

New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/butterflylabs%e6%9b%b4%e6%96%b0%e7%9a%87%e5%ae%b6%e5%9b%bd%e5%90%9b%e5%86%8d%ef%bc%8c%e4%b9%9f%e8%ae%b8%e6%9a%82%e6%97%b6%e8%bf%90%e8%be%93600gh%e6%a8%a1%e5%9e%8b/

14:51

speaking of canada: http://fightspam.gc.ca/eic/site/030.nsf/eng/home

14:51

Canada's Law on Spam and Other Electronic Threats - Home - Canada's Anti-Spam Legislation

14:51

^goes into effect tmrw

14:52

all e-mails dealing with "commerce" require opt-in and proof of existing business relationship

14:52

or another reason to gpg

14:59

;;ticker

14:59

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 623.0, Best ask: 623.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.98000, Last trade: 624.0, 24 hour volume: 11919.67750693, 24 hour low: 592.15, 24 hour high: 639.2, 24 hour vwap: 619.45166829

15:00

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00083168 = 23.0791 BTC [-]

15:00

;;nethash

15:00

119194939.289

15:00

;;bc,stats

15:00

15:00

weird..

15:01

it'll be a kick in the pants if diff is back under 14bn on bastille day.

15:02

TomServo

How so?

15:02

bitbet was "on or before", so it already resolved.

15:03

but for the no bettors, it would be irritating to be "right" but have lost.

15:03

TomServo

Ah - I thought you were implying it wasn't and there was a chance it could go the other way.

15:03

not going to happen, but, bingo's summer heat theory may be playing out :)

15:06

mike_c: Right idea, implemented too early

~ 22 minutes ~

15:28

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12820 @ 0.00083185 = 10.6643 BTC [+]

15:33

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.03212127 = 1.9273 BTC [-] {6}

15:34

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13241 @ 0.00083185 = 11.0145 BTC [+]

15:35

https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/483692873855299584

15:35

Announcement: The SecondMarket / Bitcoin Investment Trust bidding syndicate for the US Marshals bitcoin auction was outbid on all blocks

15:35

Orly!

15:36

https://twitter.com/alansilbert/status/483695027651346432

15:36

So basically at least USD$20MM of bitcoin buying demand went unsatisfied in the auction and will look elsewhere to buy bitcoins i.e. market

15:36

are barry silbert and alan silbert related?

15:41

shit, they are: http://www.americanbanker.com/issues/178_85/new-venture-aspires-to-be-the-sothebys-of-bitcoin-1058805-1.html

15:41

New Venture Aspires to Be the Sotheby s of Bitcoin - American Banker Article

15:41

"His brother, Alan Silbert, will run BitPremier from Gaithersburg, Md."

15:42

New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/30/the-book-that-sank-in/

15:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79978 @ 0.00083127 = 66.4833 BTC [-] {5}

15:45

[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 570 @ 0.00218853 = 1.2475 BTC [-]

15:47

%diff

15:47

[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 390697.91 in 1230 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -23.62

15:47

pretty cool that the diff is 512k though. 512s everywhere

15:55

;;google trilema discreet escort

15:55

The discreet escort, or how Bitcoin makes prostitution ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2014/the-discreet-escort-or-how-bitcoin-makes-prostitution-unprosecutable/>; Why exactly reusing Bitcoin addresses strengthens Bitcoin ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2014/why-exactly-reusing-bitcoin-addresses-strengthens-bitcoin-user-anonimity/>; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea (1 more message)

15:58

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34672 @ 0.00082641 = 28.6533 BTC [-] {3}

15:59

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9178 @ 0.00082531 = 7.5747 BTC [-]

15:59

fluffypony: what was todd saying about the torontonians?

16:00

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 41 @ 0.01288984 = 0.5285 BTC [-] {4}

16:04

FabianB

$traded

16:04

empyex

FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: D.BPAY D.BTGO S.MPOE X.EUR

16:08

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1942 @ 0.00082531 = 1.6028 BTC [-]

16:10

<+pankkake> pretty cool that the diff is 512k though. 512s everywhere /// 512 is my spirit number

16:11

ThickAsThieves: did a gypsy with money braided in her hair tell you that?

16:14

o/ hi bitcoin-assets

16:14

no it came to me via cosmosis

16:14

hola cgcardona

16:15

cgcardona: how's island life these days?

16:15

Figured this would be as good a place as any to get some insight into the unfolding of the auction

16:15

benkay: o/

16:15

bitcoinpete: great :) thanks for asking. Wrapping up this chapter and preparing to move back to the bay area

16:16

we're going back to santa cruz this time. Leaving kauai in about 2 weeks

16:16

(if you consider santa cruz "the bay area". many don't)

16:16

cgcardona: eh that's coming up fast

16:16

it's close enough for a northener

16:17

northerner*

16:17

yea. we were planning on doing 6 months on island but my wife isn't diggint it here too much this time so we're headed out a month early

16:17

yea close enough for me too. I can drive into SF in like 35 minutes or so

16:17

;;later tell Vexual hit me up next time you're online

16:17

The operation succeeded.

16:17

I loved kauai

16:18

hanalei dolphin, awesome sushi

16:18

yea it's my fav hawaiian island for sure

16:18

i met my wife here in 2002 new years eve

16:18

:) - you nailed it mthreat

16:18

did you do the kalalau trail?

16:19

yep - in fact that's why I came here originally in 1999. to camp out for a month over new years 2000 in kalalau

16:19

nice

16:19

we actually drove ot the top of the hill yesterday to overlook it https://twitter.com/cgcardona/status/483409146088140802/photo/1

16:19

Kalalau http://t.co/qy5JBAmh9a

16:19

i didn't get to go into the valley this time though. too busy w/ work

16:19

wow that photo.. i remember visiting that spot, if it's where I think it is

16:19

yea at the top of the mountain in koke'e

16:19

magical spot.

16:20

really great island. lots of california -> kauai connect so lots of cool people around

16:20

surfers, nature.

16:20

it's really great. but… its a small island

16:20

http://media.coindesk.com/2014/06/20140523_164302-e1404154208253.jpg

16:20

so small town vibes apply

16:20

that's why we do 1/2 time here and 1/2 ttime in the bay

16:20

ThickAsThieves: wow

16:21

!v chax

16:21

!voice chax

16:21

!up chax

16:21

!up

16:22

http://www.coindesk.com/huobi-lakebtc-added-coindesk-bitcoin-price-index/ << LakeBTC??

16:22

Huobi and LakeBTC Added to CoinDesk Bitcoin Price Index

16:22

http://www.coindesk.com/megabigpower-launches-global-franchisee-network-add-50phs-per-month-bitcoin-network/

16:22

MegaBigPower Launches Global Franchisee Network to Add 50PH/s Per Month to Bitcoin Network

16:22

!up

16:23

!up chax

16:23

finally

16:23

chax

Ah thank you

16:23

wiggle wiggle wiggle

16:23

megabigpower eh

16:23

LakeBTC has a lower rate than the rest, they be gaming dat index

16:23

ThickAsThieves: is that a mining operation?

16:23

chax: you'll need to get GPG/PGP keys into the WoT in order to voice yourself in the future

16:24

megabigpower sounds like Happy Luck Mining, Co.

16:24

mthreat the pic? it goes with the next link i think

16:25

oh shit i'm a vetted candidate and i know how to mine

16:25

i have free power

16:25

sign me up negro

16:25

hey chax - finally we meet

16:26

chax

Yes - what's everyone excited about in herE?

16:27

mircea isn't here trolling

16:27

USMS SR Coin Auction

16:27

i'm pretty excited about that

16:27

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32350 @ 0.00082409 = 26.6593 BTC [-] {2}

16:27

i was telling the traders Silbert wasnt gonna get any coins

16:27

they were like no way

16:27

ThickAsThieves: yea that's pretty big news

16:27

interesting to see confirmation that he was assumedly outbid

16:28

guess there were some really high bids or he underbid (unlikely)

16:28

prior to official results

16:28

;;ticker

16:28

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 639.0, Best ask: 639.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 639.9, 24 hour volume: 14668.86126860, 24 hour low: 592.15, 24 hour high: 647.09, 24 hour vwap: 622.948357222

16:28

2ndmarket overbid by 11 million USd

16:28

damn

16:28

I'm guessing Auction results will be well above market

16:28

mmhmm

16:28

ThickAsThieves: you expected silbert to lowball?

16:28

or it was rigged

16:28

or someone is lying

16:28

so is the traditional wisdom that the market will swing upwards to match auction price sound advice?

16:28

could have been PR stunt on his part

16:28

*sound wisdom

16:28

i expected the syndicate to lowball

16:29

since it's all derp "qualified investors"

16:29

like 46 people

16:29

no chance of a good bid

16:29

cheapskates pullin the group down

16:29

USMS confirmed 11.25 million in secured escrow

16:29

46x 250k

16:30

or whatev in deposits

16:30

no

16:30

oh right

16:30

i meant 46 in the 2ndMkt syndicate

16:30

which was a min on $25k ea

16:30

of*

16:30

but i'm saying the USMS today released the # of bidders

16:30

ah

16:30

but my math is flawed assuming each bid is separate

16:31

i think it was 200k deposit

16:31

why is probably incorrect

16:31

http://www.coindesk.com/us-marshals-release-new-data-silk-road-bitcoin-auction/

16:31

US Marshals Release Update on Silk Road Bitcoin Auction

16:31

The agency told CoinDesk that 45 registered bidders participated in the event, and that 63 bids were received over the course of the auction,

16:31

;;ticker

16:31

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 643.27, Best ask: 643.32, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 643.27, 24 hour volume: 14706.01506302, 24 hour low: 592.15, 24 hour high: 647.09, 24 hour vwap: 622.986624544

16:31

45 times deposit

16:32

that's your escrow

16:32

63 bids

16:33

http://www.coindesk.com/california-governor-grants-bitcoin-legal-money-status

16:33

California Governor Grants Bitcoin 'Legal Money' Status

16:33

yay now we can use bitcoin

16:33

set your asks for "the moon" and kick back and drink a beer?

16:34

if they announce price today, i imagine market will move toward that price pretty vigorously

16:34

i'm interested to see how quickly

16:34

and i'd agree

16:35

who exactly will announce a price? surely not the USMS right? wouldn't it be barry and/or another bidder?

16:36

i'm guessing the winner

16:36

depends, USMS did not explicitly say they would announce winning amount publicly, but people already have FOIA requests in

16:36

no reason really not to

16:36

i mean if you won you might as well pump it to the price you paid amirite

16:36

the auction didnt seem to promise any privacy or whatever

16:36

maybe theyll email it out by mistake

16:37

let's hope

16:37

CC all the biddersd quick!

16:37

they mass email out the private keys

16:37

it was me I'd annouce that I paid %50 more than i did

16:37

is that ethical?

16:37

lying?

16:37

is it lying?

16:37

or is it a press release

16:38

i can't tell

16:38

you could say "I paid n--give or take 50%' ;-]

16:39

ThickAsThieves: i hope the us govt / cali state government does *not* make the market.

16:39

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.03543955 = 0.6379 BTC [+] {4}

16:39

ThickAsThieves: do you know your history, in particular what happened after the us govt set a price for gold in the 30s -- and the opposite, in the late 60s early 70s?

16:40

i think you are taking it to extremes

16:40

they are providing a signal in this moment

16:40

nothing more

16:40

even themn,

16:40

it's the bidders makign the signal

16:40

not the USG

16:40

soooo

16:42

xmj: I don't know my history so to speak. can you explain more how what you're saying relates to today's news?

16:49

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00082477 = 19.2996 BTC [+]

16:54

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Reserve_Act i imagine hes referring to this and others like it causing price per troy to go up?

16:54

Gold Reserve Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

16:56

Mats_cd03: cool thnx

16:57

not so much causing it to go up. more like not preventing it from going up.

16:57

wait… DannyBrewster_ neobee dood is here?

16:57

you know anyone can take any nick

16:57

!up DannyBrewster_

16:57

!up ziggamon

16:58

!up mp_on_a_pony

16:58

mp_on_a_pony

hello DannyBrewster_

16:58

DannyBrewster_

hi

16:59

mp_on_a_pony

how's life on the run?

16:59

mp_on_a_pony: how's laptop on a horse?

16:59

DannyBrewster_

from what?

16:59

mp_on_a_pony

what makes you think it's a horse

16:59

lol

16:59

mike_c: later, yeah.

16:59

what, are you astride a small keg?

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!b 4

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ziggamon

hey guys

17:00

I didn't get it

17:00

what's up ziggamon

17:00

ziggamon

figured i’d finally say hi :) creeped here a few times, been reading some of your blogs for a while

17:00

oh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keg#Quarter_barrel_.28pony_keg.29

17:00

Keg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

17:01

I was more implying ponygirl. but well

17:01

http://twentypercentcooler.net/data/sample/d4/3b/d43b4b9dc69a50585ebe5e5ba6780656.jpg?1355508663

17:03

well that was anti-climactic

17:05

http://www.cpony.com/home/images/ponygirl_folsom.jpg

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403 Error

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http://thumbs.motherlessmedia.com/thumbs/FB25E19-zoom.jpg

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http://ist1-2.filesor.com/pimpandhost.com/5/2/0/5/52058/K/E/y/7/KEy7/bdsmHD_826_TheRed_m.jpg

17:06

http://s16.motherlessmedia.com/dev339/0/533/187/0533187103.jpg

17:06

Error 403

17:07

look at benkay go!

17:13

i got distracted by all the tied up babes

17:13

plus stuff in buttholes

17:14

it's far better than the corrupted vcs repositories on this staging and production server a client handed to me

17:14

on this cluster

17:15

git surgery dot butts dot com

17:16

i hope ur charging 3x time

17:16

yeah i think this warrants an email to client

17:16

unfucking something you didn't do is a low circle of hell

17:17

"hey your previous developers left a great big fuck off steaming pile of shit on the floor of your production instance. it's going to take me a while to clean it up. you'll pay."

17:17

i'm also billing for the cliquot necessary to get me through this mess.

17:19

Almost sounds cheaper for them to just... start the fuck over

17:19

BNP giving US $8.3b

17:19

clicquot?

17:19

Mats_cd03: right.

17:20

dub

veuve

17:20

FINE

17:20

they're going to start over alright

17:22

yeah, this client gets no more support.

17:22

it's a shame, as they spent 10k on just upgrading this shitstack to django 1.not-quite-current

17:23

and another 5 for me to just unfuck the remaining shitsnarls

17:23

and if they want a thing that works its going to cost them 15 next year.

17:23

if i'm even taking contracts of that size next year.

17:23

it's time for a RAGEBIKE

17:24

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00082574 = 14.6569 BTC [+] {2}

17:26

;;sell 0.5 BTC @ $5k/BTC USD Method of delivery negotiable

17:26

Error: '$5k/BTC' is not a valid price input.

17:27

benkay: thanks for the words of wisdom regarding getting clients to pay. got someone emailing me right now asking for 'equity' work and you're words were just what I needed to read.

17:27

*your

17:34

cgcardona: referring to my ragerant above?

17:34

yep

17:34

cgcardona: the problem with the US government setting the gold price that at first, having gold priced way over market rates, that created a huge inflow as everyone scrambled to sell gold to the USG at inflated prices

17:34

I appreciate the feeling

17:34

cgcardona: that was in the 1930s, maybe 1940s

17:34

"fuck you pay me" if I may paraphrase

17:34

hah yeah, that's a decent approach.

17:34

this client's not a bad client, they just hired some bad devs in the past.

17:35

cgcardona: then, in the 1960s, the reverse happened - the USD price set by the government was below what the market would've raised.

17:35

cgcardona: leading to a massive outflow

17:36

cgcardona: (it went so far that France sent a plane carrier along with the accompanying ships)

17:39

cgcardona: The thing about "equity" work is that even if they become big, on the route to becoming big they will prolly find ways to dillute their eariler payments of equity a la Dogecoin

17:41

don't get into business with people you don't trust.

17:42

;;ticker --market all

17:42

Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 642.36, vol: 15266.76200095 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 638.338, vol: 13456.86623 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 639.98, vol: 22066.38500861 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 651.91, vol: 60.03909813 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 638.893632, vol: 13832.41720000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 637.06801, vol: 18.67301073 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 642.88635, vol: 186.20235541 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)

17:42

;;more

17:42

average: 639.986390828

17:45

hmm...

17:46

;;more

17:46

Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

17:46

o nm you did it. har

17:48

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00082596 = 10.9027 BTC [+]

17:59

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00082643 = 6.5701 BTC [+]

18:03

http://bitbet.us/bet/938/world-cup-2014-germany-to-net-more-than/ << sealed. that's 8 for ze germans

18:03

BitBet - World Cup 2014: Germany to net more than 7 goals :: 5.84 B (92%) on Yes, 0.52 B (8%) on No | closing in 1 week 6 days | weight: 48`171 (100`000 to 10`000)

~ 31 minutes ~

18:34

cazalla

gee that was a close ending

18:37

cazalla: mhm

18:42

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36600 @ 0.00082532 = 30.2067 BTC [-] {2}

18:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11283 @ 0.00082643 = 9.3246 BTC [+]

18:54

SPOARTS

18:54

SPO

18:55

ARTS

18:55

SPO

18:55

ARTS

18:55

GOOOOOOOOO SPORTS

18:55

oh sweet, soccer is over and we can watch sports now?

18:56

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.03079906 = 0.924 BTC [-]

18:56

although can't complain about the .02 btc per 'footie' bet bitbet's going to pull down

18:56

zing, mike_c

18:56

it's almost as though you're american

18:57

cazalla

i hate sport but the world cup is something else

18:58

cazalla

but i played soccer as a kid not to mention the fact australia only returned to the cup since 06 so the past 3 have been enjoyable

19:00

Moar Sports http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/angels-slugger-albert-pujols-slowed-by-swollen-lymph-gland-in-groin?ymd=20140629&content_id=82298254&vkey=news_mlb

19:00

Angels slugger Albert Pujols slowed by swollen lymph gland in groin | MLB.com: News

19:07

Bet placed: 1.01 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/974/ Odds: 27(Y):73(N) by coin, 27(Y):73(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.58623333 BTC. Current weight: 99,242.

19:08

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7617 @ 0.00082898 = 6.3143 BTC [+]

19:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16043 @ 0.00082465 = 13.2299 BTC [-] {3}

19:19

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33850 @ 0.00082255 = 27.8433 BTC [-] {3}

19:24

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 25 @ 0.03079906 = 0.77 BTC [-]

19:36

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03540415 = 0.7081 BTC [+]

19:36

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00082648 = 22.5629 BTC [+]

19:38

RainMan28 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

19:38

!up RainMan28

19:38

thanks mike_c

19:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11233 @ 0.00082715 = 9.2914 BTC [+]

19:38

np

19:38

benkay, you around?

19:41

from the lolfarms: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/06/people-on-move.html

19:41

ClubOrlov: People on the move

19:44

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00083098 = 3.9056 BTC [+]

19:59

from the u.s. school of rectothermodynamics: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/massachusetts-high-court-orders-suspect-to-decrypt-his-computers

19:59

Massachusetts high court orders suspect to decrypt his computers | Ars Technica

20:05

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9671 @ 0.0008285 = 8.0124 BTC [-]

20:11

[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 77 @ 0.019 = 1.463 BTC [+]

20:19

mod6

%d

20:19

[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 391032.26 in 1204 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -23.55

20:20

mod6

wow @ game #10

20:21

get it while its hot

20:24

The only thing that might make WoL substantially better would be Klye having ATC

20:24

Bet placed: 4 BTC for Yes on "Difficulty over 21Bn by Summer's end 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/877/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 93(Y):7(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.905 BTC. Current weight: 67,683.

~ 18 minutes ~

20:42

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03079906 = 0.616 BTC [-]

20:47

[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 77 @ 0.01440459 = 1.1092 BTC [-] {7}

20:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00082854 = 25.6847 BTC [+]

20:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47509 @ 0.00082805 = 39.3398 BTC [-] {3}

~ 20 minutes ~

21:13

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00082657 = 9.8775 BTC [-] {3}

21:16

nuts

21:16

;;later tell RainMan28 next time send me a pm, i'll read it when i get back

21:16

The operation succeeded.

21:17

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00082809 = 4.5545 BTC [+]

21:25

;;ident RainMain28

21:25

Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.

21:25

;;gpg info RainMan28

21:25

User 'RainMan28', with keyid F2825626E97847CF, fingerprint 30AD187AF62F6E7AA829B02AF2825626E97847CF, and bitcoin address 1MpuiLaZdk7JHtbic9C5Js95DdCBNyGcuA, registered on Sat May 31 17:50:39 2014, last authed on Sun Jun 29 03:04:52 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=RainMan28 . Currently authenticated from hostmask RainMan28!~RainMan28@unaffiliated/rainman28 .

21:36

RainMan28 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

21:37

!up RainMan28

21:39

;;ident RainMan28

21:39

Nick 'RainMan28', with hostmask 'RainMan28!~RainMan28@unaffiliated/rainman28', is identified as user 'RainMan28', with GPG key id F2825626E97847CF, key fingerprint 30AD187AF62F6E7AA829B02AF2825626E97847CF, and bitcoin address 1MpuiLaZdk7JHtbic9C5Js95DdCBNyGcuA

21:48

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.03211175 = 0.7065 BTC [-] {3}

21:51

;;ident caerian

21:51

Nick 'caerian', with hostmask 'Caerian!~caerian@cpe-184-56-179-89.neo.res.rr.com', is identified as user 'Caerian', with GPG key id 571A02E6E01766F6, key fingerprint 7C5922F713D60AF3300E7578571A02E6E01766F6, and bitcoin address 1FYyJ3BW1MPHutc92Atw3XVQZ7V9Q1Bbqg

21:51

;;gettrust caerian

21:51

Currently authenticated from hostmask Caerian!~caerian@cpe-184-56-179-89.neo.res.rr.com. Trust relationship from user benkay to user caerian: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=caerian | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=caerian | Rated since: Fri Feb 1 15:14:20 2013

21:51

;;gettrust RainMan28

21:51

Currently authenticated from hostmask RainMan28!~RainMan28@unaffiliated/rainman28. Trust relationship from user benkay to user RainMan28: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=RainMan28 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=RainMan28 | Rated since: Fri Jun 6 17:17:21 2014

22:05

more chapters in the saga: http://pastebin.com/FeinL812

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22:05

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22:06

!up RainMan28

22:06

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00082809 = 7.0802 BTC [+]

22:06

;;rate RainMan28 1 +v

22:06

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user RainMan28 has been recorded.

22:06

thanks benkay

22:06

RainMan28: you can now !up yourself via PM to assbot

22:07

yeah, for anyone wanting the tl;dr version, ninjashogun has been soliciting a $30,000 investment daily in bitcoin-otc for the past few days and doesn't seem to be who he says he is. Maybe just a scammer, but maybe something other than that too. Not sure.

22:13

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5334 @ 0.00082809 = 4.417 BTC [+]

22:18

If I ever put together an investor deck (which I won't) I swear to assbot that I will ask for a "new suit and used rolex submariner"

22:19

yeah, seriously

22:19

If ninja shogun was really a good steward of investor funds, he would ask for a used suit instead of new.

22:19

when I read that, wasn't sure if he was trolling

22:19

or it was truly amateur hour up in here

22:20

I can't purchase a suit or a desktop computer, please trust me with your $30,000

22:26

the graphics setup is pretty sweet thought. I assume it's so he can build a kick ass flying horse for eulora?

22:26

I can't get over the Rolex Submariner's pointy bazel

22:26

*bezel

22:32

I have to say though I wished more makers would follow the Rolex model of using bracelet pins that are acctually screws

22:39

Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/974/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.72623333 BTC. Current weight: 98,930.

22:41

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00082815 = 10.8074 BTC [+] {3}

22:49

mr spam never tires!

22:51

http://sprunge.us/iXOh << mega-lol

22:52

*

asciilifeform kindly requests that muppeteer change the muppet routine a bit. this one is getting old, fast.

22:53

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!b 1

22:55

<ninjashogun> 6) I will buy a suit, a used Rolex submariner, and travel and meet with a respected VC I have a warm intro to. (This part is secret and a bit embarrassing, let's not pastebin it) << Why the fuck is the Rolex anything resembling necessary

22:55

pig wants lipstick ?

22:56

fellow should get a 'montrex.'

22:56

at least he's not getting gold embossed business cards :p

22:56

!s montrex

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11 results for 'montrex' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=montrex

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Honestly the best place to shop luxury watch brands is the Pawn shop

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tlp had a good essay on watch cults

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(regarding how no serious wealthy fashion slave would be caught dead with 'rolex' etc)

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[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03079906 = 0.616 BTC [-]

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;;google the last psychiatrist rolex

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The Last Psychiatrist: Luxury Branding The Future Leaders Of The ...: <http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/11/luxury_branding_the_future_lea.html>; The Last Psychiatrist: Thank God The 'Heart Attack Grill' Is A Great ...: <http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/05/thank_god_the_heart_attack_gri.html>; The Last Psychiatrist: So At Least Two People Agree With Me: (1 more message)

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Honestly given enough pawn shop visits the most impressive pieces can be foun for ~$100-200 (Movados without the retarded Museum dial and others)

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[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 30 @ 0.01916 = 0.5748 BTC [+]

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On my list of things to own eventually list is a Bulova with the "tuning fork" movement.

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*

asciilifeform doesn't get the point

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asciilifeform: My desire for tuning for watch is timekeeping purposes and aesthetics. It is a technology that should have continued instead of fading as it did.

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if you actually give a damn about timekeeping - hard to justify mechanical clock.

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this is where the old tech conclusively, truly, lost.

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Of course, but aesthetics can justify a lot of things. Atomic clocks aren't that expensive, but not wrist portable. Quartz an dmechanical movements alike have become sweat shop products. The tuning fork electromechanical stuff though has to be sought out as it lost

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If flourocarbon fishing line had been discountinued I would seek it aggressively as well.

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BingoBoingo: what's the nice thing about the tuning fork scheme ?

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asciilifeform: Actual smooth movement of the second hand. The lack of such a thing is why I tend to pluck the second hand off of many watches.

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The quartz 1 beat per seconds and the mechanical 4-12 beats per second are an abomination to the eye.

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!up jonvaage

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asciilifeform: I only appreciated the difference working at a watch stand changing batteries in other people's machines.

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Hi everyone, nice place you got here.

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Thank you jonvaage, what brings you here?

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asciilifeform: Value of tuning fork watch is like value of a Mazda miata. Not priced ostentatiously, but there is something about the good that afficianados can appreciate.

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I'm from Austin, and a few of my friends recommended this channel and so I got set up with the WoT last night.

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BingoBoingo: quartz resonator in electronic clock (or for that matter every other piece of digital widgetry) is a tuning fork

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BingoBoingo: your complaint is with the geating on electro-mechanical clocks.

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*gearing

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Of course

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If quarts drove 37.5k beats per minute there would be no problem

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bitcoinpete helped the process along thanks to his blog.

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jonvaage: Cool, what do you do?

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Structural engineering grad student, but I've been doing a lot of technical diagrams for Open Transactions lately.

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*If quartz drove 37.5k beats per second

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BingoBoingo: get a soviet copy

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asciilifeform: If you know of any leads they would be appreciated

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jonvaage: Cool, working with anyone in particular on OT?

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Mainly Justus Ranvier and Chris Odom

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asciilifeform: Oh shit, google delivers

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BingoBoingo: http://www.decadecounter.com/accutron/clones.htm

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The Accutron Revolution - Accuracy Through Electronics 1960-1977

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^ don't have such a thing myself, can't comment

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I'm planning on helping overhaul the OT wiki starting later this week

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2774 @ 0.00082648 = 2.2927 BTC [-]

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BingoBoing: how about yourself?

23:29

what is the OT jonvaage?

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yep, I'm pretty sure this is the biggest threat to bitcoin right now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZcvniWtTBI

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Bitcoin in the Beltway - ZHOU TONGED - YouTube

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asciilifeform: This chinese one http://www.decadecounter.com/accutron/tianjin214.jpg looks most like Bulovas I've seen

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TheNewDeal: OT = Open Transactions

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jonvaage: I just do misc work. Sometimes private contracts turn into public things.

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http://opentransactions.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

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Open Transactions

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http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2013/12/06/voting-pools-how-to-stop-the-plague-of-bitcoin-heists-thefts-hacks-scams-and-losses/

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Voting Pools: How to Stop the Bitcoin Thieves

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http://i.imgur.com/HTyAJjg.png

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BingoBoingo: any public things I might have heard of?

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jonvaage: F.MPIF thedrinkingrecord.com

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'voting pool' idea << sybil magnet

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and what does one need to smoke to see the pluses of the concept of letting competitors vote on whether you can spend your coin ?

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Honestly I dunno of many people who improved the Bitcoin "ecosystem" moar than Pirateat40

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hahah

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i just don't get it. people keep asking to bake 'democracy' in

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Without Pirate impoverishing idiots I dunno if hitting $20 a second time would have been possible.

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I don't think it's out of love for democracy.

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Haha, I've said more than once that scammers are pro-social in an anti-fragile system.

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it's out of a bizarre lsd trip idea that 'crowd has wisdom' and voting can sum intelligence

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.18965 = 1.5172 BTC [-] {2}

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!up jonvaage

23:47

The social problem means little compared to the scarcity virtue

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crowd has wisdom is true though

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at least, that's what they taught it in an engineering statistics class

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'If of ten men, nine are recognizable as fools, which is a common calculation,' says our Intermittent Friend, 'how in the name of wonder will you ever get a ballotbox to grind you out a wisdom from the votes of these ten men? Never by any conceivable ballotbox, nor by all the machinery in Bromwicham or out of it, it will you attain such a result. Not by any method under Heaven, except by suppressing, and in some

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good way reducing to zero, nine of those votes, can wisdom ever issue from your ten.'

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(guess who)

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Naggum!

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carlyle

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godamnit

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(lifted from mr. mold: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2010/01/hanson-moldbug-debate.html)

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jonvaage: The nice thing is that over time the scammers become less relevant of necessity

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9652 @ 0.00082606 = 7.9731 BTC [-] {2}

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BingoBoingo: this is far from a physical inevitability. you will find systems that reach a steady state of appalling scammitude.

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('lemon market' and similar phenomena)

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BingoBoingo: Exactly, they just serve as highly effective educators by reducing information asymmetry.

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highly effective educators?

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asciilifeform: Well thanks to Cex.io Bitcoin seems largely stuck in a phase like that nao. I think persistent steady states are mythical beings though.

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are you telling me that those Middle Eastern King scams educating anyone?

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scammers sometimes even succeed in breeding an entire class of dedicated chumps.

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Lol

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