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00:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07600636 = 0.7601 BTC [-] {2}
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00:34 assbot KRS1 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
00:35 benkay !up KRS1
00:35 KRS1 thanks..i need level 2 for +v?
00:35 benkay hey that's a neat way to advertise that you want yourself upped
00:36 benkay yup
00:36 benkay ;;gettrust krs1
00:36 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user krs1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=krs1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=krs1 | Rated since: never
00:36 KRS1 thought i just authenticated
00:36 benkay ;;ident KRS1
00:36 gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'KRS1', with hostmask 'KRS1!~chrix@c-50-143-86-143.hsd1.fl.comcast.net', is identified as user 'KRS', with GPG key id DDCA1AC02D73D555, key fingerprint AEDA19C1901B6FA0207B9620DDCA1AC02D73D555, and bitcoin address None
00:36 benkay ;;gettrust assbot KRS
00:36 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask KRS1!~chrix@c-50-143-86-143.hsd1.fl.comcast.net. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user KRS: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=KRS | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=KRS | Rated since: never
00:37 benkay try /nick KRS /msg assbot !up /nick KRS1
00:37 KRS1 damnit someone else is KRS
00:37 benkay <benkay> hey that's a neat way to advertise that you want yourself upped // i suggested this ages ago and was shot down mercilessly.
00:38 benkay talk to kakobrekla it's his ruleset
00:38 KRS1 ok thanks
00:41 moiety krs1 have you tried releasing the nick in case they havent registered it?
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01:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00082743 = 14.7283 BTC [+]
01:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.078944 = 0.9473 BTC [+] {5}
01:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.0008263 = 11.2377 BTC [-]
01:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00082825 = 25.5101 BTC [+] {4}
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02:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.079 = 0.474 BTC [-]
02:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.076096 = 0.8371 BTC [-] {2}
02:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.22789767 BTC [+]
02:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.02027599 = 0.4055 BTC [+]
02:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07603348 = 0.8364 BTC [-] {2}
02:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00185 = 0.185 BTC [+]
02:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00007784 = 0.1946 BTC [+]
03:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: and there'll be plenty of folks ready to help << clearly.
03:02 mircea_popescu the problem still remains, that merit isn't a thing.,
03:03 mircea_popescu according to reddit, reddit's merituous.
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03:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7363 @ 0.00007784 = 0.5731 BTC [+] {2}
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03:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 114 @ 0.07601262 = 8.6654 BTC [+] {5}
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05:06 FabianB <+mircea_popescu> FabianB this shit is so damned cool but why doesn't it work!!11 <-- i guess i should ask kakobrekla to include empyex in the list of voiced bots
05:06 FabianB !up empyex
05:07 FabianB $vwap s.mpoe
05:07 empyex FabianB: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00082206 high: 0.00082888 low: 0.00081496 volume: 575271 btc: 472.90917317 7 day: average: 0.00083822 high: 0.00086895 low: 0.00081496 volume: 6722160 btc: 5634.66906217 30 day: average: 0.00088219 high: 0.00099876 low: 0.00079351 volume: 25958166 btc: 22900.03155038
05:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00082835 = 13.1708 BTC [+] {2}
05:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.0751 = 0.6759 BTC [-]
05:19 benkay https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309073.msg3315672#msg3315672 // but how are you going to get the pools to support a hard fork that would allow their participants to cheat?
05:19 assbot A Non-Outsourceable Puzzle to Prevent Hosted Mining (and Mining Pools)
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05:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00082704 = 15.2175 BTC [-] {3}
05:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.03 = 0.18 BTC [-]
05:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 65 @ 0.07361764 = 4.7851 BTC [-] {7}
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06:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.02020013 = 0.1616 BTC [+] {2}
06:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00082555 = 7.5538 BTC [-] {2}
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06:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00082464 = 19.379 BTC [-] {2}
06:43 Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 59(Y):41(N) by coin, 60(Y):40(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.45879439 BTC. Current weight: 77,914.
06:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3036 @ 0.00082727 = 2.5116 BTC [+]
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07:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PROV] 76 @ 0.002 = 0.152 BTC
07:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0752 = 0.1504 BTC [-]
07:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0752 = 0.1504 BTC [-]
07:30 thestringpuller happy fathers day mircea_popescu
07:30 thestringpuller jkjk
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07:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0752 = 0.752 BTC [-] {2}
07:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.00082737 = 14.8513 BTC [+] {2}
07:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0202 = 0.101 BTC [-]
08:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3443 @ 0.00082646 = 2.8455 BTC [-] {2}
08:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0018501 = 0.185 BTC [+]
08:31 davout mircea_popescu: around?
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08:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 59 @ 0.07543621 = 4.4507 BTC [+] {3}
08:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0295695 = 0.2957 BTC [-]
08:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2548 @ 0.00082623 = 2.1052 BTC [-]
08:51 kakobrekla <benkay> <benkay> hey that's a neat way to advertise that you want yourself upped // i suggested this ages ago and was shot down mercilessly.
08:51 kakobrekla <benkay> talk to kakobrekla it's his ruleset < only if you are in wot and authed but dont reach the levels.
08:51 kakobrekla FabianB is it registered with nickserv?
08:52 kakobrekla ops first paste went over 2 lines.
09:06 FabianB kakobrekla: yes, it is
09:10 nubbins` morning, folks
09:11 Mats_cd03 i forgot the private key associated with gribble :s
09:12 chetty g'day nubbins`
09:13 FabianB Mats_cd03: no second auth via btc address?
09:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12552 @ 0.00082179 = 10.3151 BTC [-]
09:14 Mats_cd03 no
09:14 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/gamer-dad-ranks-on-mashable-top-pops-list-for-donkey-kong-hack-1.2675866
09:14 assbot Gamer dad ranks on Mashable 'top pops' list for Donkey Kong hack - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
09:14 nubbins` Mats_cd03, you forgot your private key :0
09:14 * nubbins` shakes head
09:16 FabianB Mats_cd03: did you loose it or did you forget the passphrase?
09:16 Mats_cd03 ive forgotten the passphrase
09:17 Mats_cd03 i was stoned when i setup gpg :(
09:22 chetty you didnt write it down on paper and store elsewhere either I guees :/
09:26 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3C1ENF.txt )
09:26 nubbins` !b 4
09:27 nubbins` dead link
09:27 nubbins` there's a very high-looking woman sitting on my front step
09:27 nubbins` she keeps holding her head
09:29 fluffypony nubbins`: do you live in the Bronx of Canada?
09:29 chetty give the poor woman some water
09:30 nubbins` fluffypony, after a fashion
09:30 nubbins` chetty, it'll just encourage her
09:30 nubbins` although i'll probably spray her with some water if she doesn't move on soon
09:30 Mats_cd03 shake your walker at her too
09:31 nubbins` heh
09:32 fluffypony hah hah
09:38 nubbins` oh fuck someone gave her a sandwich
09:38 nubbins` WHY
09:39 kakobrekla so much compassion :)
09:43 nubbins` compassion == me letting her stay there thus far
09:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0018501 = 0.185 BTC [+]
09:58 assbot KRS1 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
09:58 kakobrekla !up KRS1
10:02 nubbins` sweet, she moved on
10:03 assbot KRS1 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
10:05 danielpbarron !up KRS1
10:06 KRS1 thank anyway danielpbarron, apparently I'm not "elite" enough for this channel..and i don't want to waste any more of kakobrekla's precious fucking time.
10:07 kakobrekla stop being retarded.
10:08 nubbins` pull up a chair and stay a while
10:08 nubbins` it's not like people won't !up you all day :D
10:08 chetty having a gpg key and a wot rating is elite? who knew
10:08 nubbins` chetty: it's not?! ;D
10:08 chetty ../sarcasm
10:09 * fluffypony polishes his elite GPG key
10:09 KRS1 Thanks but I can't nubbins, my wot rating isn't good enough to stay. Chetty: <assbot> You need a better WOT rating. (level 2 with assbot >0)
10:09 fluffypony navy seals grade
10:09 nubbins` now you're just being silly, you don't need a wot rating to stay
10:09 nubbins` it just makes a couple things more convenient
10:10 chetty !up KRS1
10:10 nubbins` http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=krs1
10:10 assbot Rating Details for User 'krs1'
10:10 nubbins` This user has not authenticated for more than 164 days :0
10:11 nubbins` http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=krs-1
10:11 assbot Rating Details for User 'krs-1'
10:11 nubbins` This user has not authenticated for more than 219 days :00000
10:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4635 @ 0.00007999 = 0.3708 BTC [+]
10:14 danielpbarron KRS1, it looks to me like kakobrekla voice you first; I'm not sure why would would have a problem with him..
10:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26487 @ 0.00083111 = 22.0136 BTC [+] {2}
10:17 KRS1 danielpbarron: you are right..he did respond to me.
10:18 KRS1 guess it was the "way" he did it
10:18 KRS1 its cool tho..im gonna shuffle off now
10:19 fluffypony shuffle off your mortal coil?
10:19 nubbins` kako's pretty ornery
10:19 nubbins` here's a recent pic of him: http://imgur.com/Ho4chGH
10:19 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
10:20 fluffypony lol
10:20 nubbins` you can't really tell, but he's wearing dockers and a leather belt
10:24 nubbins` sup [\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]
10:24 nubbins` !up [\\\]
10:24 nubbins` !up arij
10:35 nubbins` !up Dimsler
10:35 kakobrekla yeah, i should get a pipe.
10:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.22754774 = 1.1377 BTC [-] {3}
10:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.22793133 = 0.6838 BTC [+] {2}
10:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.22963226 = 4.1334 BTC [+] {6}
10:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1213 @ 0.00083344 = 1.011 BTC [+]
10:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.0018501 = 0.1647 BTC [+] {2}
10:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 54 @ 0.075 = 4.05 BTC [-] {2}
10:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.0753 = 0.9036 BTC [+]
10:58 thestringpuller !MPIF
10:58 thestringpuller !mpif
10:58 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021658 BTC (Total: 433.17 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021703 BTC [-]
10:59 thestringpuller nubbins`: around?
11:03 nubbins` yep
11:06 thestringpuller how much for the shirt now?
11:06 thestringpuller ;;calc [ticker --last] * 2$
11:06 gribble Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
11:06 thestringpuller ;;calc [ticker --last] * 25
11:06 gribble 13997
11:07 thestringpuller ;;calc 25 / [ticker --last]
11:07 gribble 0.0446524255198
11:07 thestringpuller nubbins`: ^--
11:10 nubbins` ^
11:10 nubbins` 1TDaWh3MDibweoNaEjAAT8YHG3QmoBXqG
11:12 thestringpuller kay one moment
11:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 755 @ 0.0018501 = 1.3968 BTC [+]
11:15 thestringpuller sent
11:15 thestringpuller OH CRAP
11:15 thestringpuller there is no fee on it is there :(
11:15 thestringpuller c6fa408cf3ace5839a367b678286cd0aab064ac6a8288bc80ed9acf4ae20aadc
11:16 thestringpuller oh well nubbins` it'll get there evenutally
11:17 kakobrekla learn to no fee
11:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10387 @ 0.00082996 = 8.6208 BTC [-]
11:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.0018501 = 0.1203 BTC [+]
11:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07529999 = 0.1506 BTC [-]
11:24 mircea_popescu <FabianB> <+mircea_popescu> FabianB this shit is so damned cool but why doesn't it work!!11 <-- i guess i should ask kakobrekla to include empyex in the list of voiced bots << o ya kako please add empy
11:24 mircea_popescu <davout> mircea_popescu: around? << aye
11:25 mircea_popescu <Mats_cd03> no << you're fucked.
11:26 kakobrekla yes i was on it but got distracted
11:26 kakobrekla what is the bots name again
11:26 nubbins` thestringpuller: no rush. pm your shipping info when ready
11:26 mircea_popescu <chetty> having a gpg key and a wot rating is elite? who knew << damn straight.,
11:26 kakobrekla ah empyex
11:26 kakobrekla i suck reading
11:27 thestringpuller http://www.designboom.com/competition/deutsche-bank-future-banking/
11:27 assbot DEUTSCHE BANK - Future Banking
11:27 nubbins` i was actually offered a consulting gig at a local credit union because of my wot rating
11:27 thestringpuller ;;gettrust nubbins`
11:27 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user nubbins`: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 6 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=nubbins%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nubbins%60 | Rated since: Wed Oct 16 19:58:53 2013
11:27 nubbins` JUST KIDDING :D
11:28 kakobrekla Naphex chanserv doesnt like you
11:29 mircea_popescu <nubbins`> here's a recent pic of him: http://imgur.com/Ho4chGH << actually he looks like that guy when he was 30ish :D
11:29 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
11:29 nubbins` no joke, that pic came from a site called "gay gamer"
11:29 thestringpuller oh nubbins` do you have a mockup of what it looks like with the #bitcoin-assets printed on it?
11:30 mircea_popescu <nubbins`> i was actually offered a consulting gig at a local credit union because of my wot rating << tru story ?
11:30 nubbins` mp, all lies ;(
11:30 mircea_popescu np, it shall be perpetuated as truth regardless.
11:30 nubbins` thestringpuller: i forgot to take pix. same font, smaller, "irc.freenode.net" with "#bitcoin-assets" underneath, just below top collar
11:30 * nubbins` nods
11:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07529999 = 0.6024 BTC [-]
11:30 thestringpuller on back or front?
11:30 nubbins` back
11:31 thestringpuller nice
11:31 thestringpuller hmm i like that
11:31 thestringpuller i'll take the optinal channel label!
11:31 nubbins` right on
11:31 * mircea_popescu remembers when people were pissed off at hashking on the forum for stealing all their bitcoinz, and some forumer said he sounds like he's 14 and he sarcastically said o no he's 15. formonths afterwards ppl were like 15 yo stole our monyz!!11 in all seriousness.
11:32 nubbins` heh
11:32 nubbins` dangerous things, words
11:32 mircea_popescu especially not mine.
11:32 nubbins` thestringpuller: pm address and i'll get it printed & sent off within the next few days
11:33 nubbins` oh and what size!
11:33 thestringpuller kay. lets wait for 1 confirm first
11:33 thestringpuller hmmm
11:33 thestringpuller sizes always vary
11:33 nubbins` standard gildan shirts
11:33 * kakobrekla still thinks hashking was 13
11:33 thestringpuller XD
11:33 mircea_popescu i was thinking, "he'll have to think about that"
11:33 nubbins` if you're not sure, opt for a larger size, they'll shrink a bit in the wash
11:33 thestringpuller i'll do a large then
11:33 nubbins` k
11:34 thestringpuller the other shirts I had printed were medium in fruit of the loom, my lanky arms make it uncomfortable sometimes XD
11:34 mircea_popescu hm, 16 core cpus are cool just because you get to watch the colored lines if you feel like it
11:34 nubbins` FTL are a notoriously bad fit :D
11:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3687 @ 0.0008323 = 3.0687 BTC [+]
11:37 mircea_popescu kakobrekla afaik he was some neighbour of gigavps' or some shit
11:37 kakobrekla a.
11:45 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/L4gH8Eg.gif
11:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0753 = 0.4518 BTC [+]
11:49 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
11:49 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 555.88, Best ask: 557.65, Bid-ask spread: 1.77000, Last trade: 556.11, 24 hour volume: 13359.55845610, 24 hour low: 538.38, 24 hour high: 576.64, 24 hour vwap: 556.282040898
11:50 nubbins` wow
11:55 FabianB $unconfirmed
11:55 empyex FabianB: 749
11:56 FabianB thanks kakobrekla
11:56 thestringpuller $depth MPIF
11:56 empyex thestringpuller: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=eJBMcTug
11:56 mircea_popescu nice
11:56 FabianB $depth f.mpif
11:56 empyex FabianB: [F.MPIF] Bids: 100 @ 0.00021659 10000 @ 0.00021640 1000 @ 0.00021562 10000 @ 0.00021561
11:56 empyex FabianB: [F.MPIF] Asks: 500 @ 0.00021726 1000 @ 0.00024000 100000 @ 0.00029000 10000 @ 0.00040000
11:57 mircea_popescu quite.
11:57 FabianB $conference
11:57 empyex FabianB: Next conference starts in 10 months and 2 days. Estimated cost today: 2.36415088 BTC
11:58 FabianB $avg
11:58 empyex FabianB: 558.34
11:58 mircea_popescu yay haha
11:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07500033 = 0.45 BTC [-] {2}
11:58 mircea_popescu ;;rated FabianB
11:58 gribble You rated user FabianB on Tue Mar 25 20:11:54 2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Ruby pympex extension, some trades etc.
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.88642160 BTC to 8`820 shares, 21388 satoshi per share
12:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8013 @ 0.00083113 = 6.6598 BTC [-]
12:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.075 = 1.5 BTC [-] {2}
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.075 = 0.75 BTC [-]
12:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.02019999 = 0.1212 BTC [-] {2}
12:27 mircea_popescu http://fr.anco.is/2014/06/15/x-eur-june-15th-2014-statement/
12:27 assbot X.EUR June 15th 2014 statement | fr.anco.is
12:27 mircea_popescu davout is nao reporting nicely.
12:28 mircea_popescu pankkake addition to irker ?
12:30 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: problem still remains, that merit isn't a thing << now i'm curious
12:31 mircea_popescu aha ?
12:31 asciilifeform well, herr newton, etc. rising up from the ranks
12:32 mircea_popescu so a bunch of spanish peasants burnt down mexico city.
12:32 mircea_popescu they... rose up from the ranks.
12:33 asciilifeform lol
12:33 mircea_popescu well ?
12:33 mircea_popescu what's hernan cortes' merit ?
12:33 asciilifeform point
12:33 * asciilifeform still no confucian
12:34 mircea_popescu merit only exists in a measuring context. the choice of a measuring context is political.
12:34 mircea_popescu merit isn't a thing.
12:34 chetty unless of course its yours
12:35 asciilifeform btw, anyone following the discussion who is unfamiliar with 'simulated annealing' method of mathematical wizardry, should open a book and quickly become familiar
12:35 asciilifeform it relates.
12:35 penguirker New blog post: http://fr.anco.is/2014/06/15/x-eur-june-15th-2014-statement/
12:36 mircea_popescu danke
12:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.0018501 = 0.111 BTC [+]
12:37 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the space isn't discrete tho.
12:37 asciilifeform ?
12:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00203017 = 0.203 BTC [+] {4}
12:39 mircea_popescu isn't this the probabilistic thing that finds the shortest path going through one city or we ?
12:39 asciilifeform more general than this
12:39 mircea_popescu ok, let's rephrase
12:39 asciilifeform picture a toy plastic 'landscape' with hills and valleys, and a couple of ball bearings
12:39 asciilifeform you want to find the valleys. so you shake it.
12:39 asciilifeform the ball bearings will, ideally, end up in the valleys
12:40 asciilifeform but may very well get stuck in 'local minima'
12:40 asciilifeform so the question becomes, how vigorously to shake.
12:40 mircea_popescu the domains are not discrete ; the functions defined on them are not monotonous nor even differentiable.
12:40 mircea_popescu the problem of merit is not analysable.
12:41 mircea_popescu i suppose that's a much better statement than "merit isn't a thing"
12:41 asciilifeform it's analysable in degenerate cases
12:41 mircea_popescu degenerate cases aren't part of it.
12:41 asciilifeform e.g. we don't know the ideal temperature for a living planet, but we can be pretty sure it isn't 10K
12:41 mircea_popescu this is part of the non-differentiability, it does not contain its degenerate cases.
12:41 asciilifeform (or 5000K)
12:41 mircea_popescu right. which were never part of the discussion of the ideal temperature anyway
12:42 mircea_popescu basically, this is a magical set that never includes its margins
12:42 mircea_popescu no matter how they may be defined
12:42 mircea_popescu and while it includes a subset, and all its members,
12:42 asciilifeform i'd say, if mr. newton can't do his thing because the city burns every tuesday, we're at '5000k'
12:42 mircea_popescu it doesn't include the margins of any subset
12:42 asciilifeform if he can't do his thing because he's worn a zombie collar from birth and knows his place in the uranium mines, we're at 10.
12:44 mircea_popescu which i suppose is a very good formalisation of what i mean by "not analysable" : imagine a set of numbers which includes an order property, but excludes the highest and lowest member in any subset.
12:44 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i know exactly what mathematical contrievance you have in mind, just not convinced that it applies here
12:45 mircea_popescu well if you were what'd we talk about :)
12:45 asciilifeform lel
12:45 mircea_popescu i'd be stuck getting back to this blogpost which is already too big anyway
12:46 thestringpuller oooh more trilema to read
12:46 thestringpuller trilema us father's day edition (jk)
12:47 mircea_popescu thestringpuller i only fuck whores anyway. they're no longer fertile on the grounds of all the countless abortions back when they were 16.
12:47 mircea_popescu (jk)
12:47 thestringpuller for some reason I don't think you're kidding :D
12:47 thestringpuller since that seems to be the case, they try to plan a pregnancy for once then the OBGYN asks, "Well how many abortions have you had?"
12:48 thestringpuller "Maybe motherhood isn't for you...have you considered adoption?"
12:48 asciilifeform uterus odometer?
12:48 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0EW7X9.txt )
12:48 thestringpuller !b 1
12:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 12 @ 0.08 = 0.96 BTC [-]
12:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [-]
13:01 chetty http://news.yahoo.com/french-pm-warns-disgruntled-socialists-could-disappear-165303556.html;_ylt=AwrBEiKVf5xTez8Ao1HQtDMD
13:01 assbot French PM warns disgruntled Socialists they could "disappear" - Yahoo News
13:01 Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/
13:06 mircea_popescu they should be happy to merely disappear
13:07 mircea_popescu the actual risk is that they're getting rounded up and sent to extermination labour camps.
13:07 asciilifeform isn't that what is traditionally meant in this context for 'disappear' ?
13:08 asciilifeform desaparecido.
13:09 mircea_popescu i doubt very much he meant that.
13:10 mircea_popescu for that matter, the gulag shall be quite public. webcams everywhere, with ample explanation as to what the criminal did.
13:10 asciilifeform 'would you, could you, in the zoo?'
13:10 mircea_popescu there should be a term, incidentally.
13:10 asciilifeform zoolag.
13:11 mircea_popescu how do you say fascists in russian, except to denote not the folk that derped with hitler but the folk that dared propose the solutions to human problems are to be expected from groups rather than individuals ? and in english.
13:11 Bet created: "Li Na wins Wimbledon" http://bitbet.us/bet/945/
13:13 chetty usually its the socialists and their various cousins that do the 'camps' thing. Can you think of a historical time they got the bad end of that deal?
13:13 asciilifeform spain?
13:13 mircea_popescu plenty of them.
13:13 mircea_popescu it all starts in rome.
13:13 asciilifeform (or at least the spain pictured in 'homage to catalonia')
13:14 mircea_popescu feeding the christians to the lions was perhaps insufficient, but nevertheless in the right vein.
13:14 asciilifeform we're rather long on christians and short on lions.
13:14 mircea_popescu the death of sir thomas moore, a fine example.
13:16 * asciilifeform can think of plenty of good candidates for zoolag
13:16 mircea_popescu i bet you you can't.
13:16 mircea_popescu stalin managed what, ten million out of fifty ?
13:16 asciilifeform well, depends on what's a good candidate. does the exhibit need to be pretty to look at ?
13:16 mircea_popescu you need tocome up with about 200 million names.
13:17 asciilifeform let them recommend each other. like the social network derpatrons.
13:17 mircea_popescu which is really not hard to do, take everyone that was involved in any manner in the government of an european or north american country past 1940
13:17 asciilifeform in fact, this is sorta how the 'prior art' worked.
13:17 mircea_popescu and their families
13:17 mircea_popescu indeed so.
13:18 mircea_popescu problem is, even if you put obama on the glory chair, he might not be able to remember who the fuck was in his cabinet
13:18 chetty <mircea_popescu> which is really not hard to do, take everyone that was involved in any manner in the government of an european or north american country past 1940/uhg
13:18 mircea_popescu chetty well what, you expect to make omlette without breaking out some soviets ?
13:19 chetty no, but I ain't volunteering to march off to zoolag either
13:20 asciilifeform problem, as seen in soviet example, is that you eventually run out of 'class enemies' and the meat grinder is still standing, well-oiled. then you have korolev doing time
13:21 asciilifeform incidentally, stalin's '30s purges are almost universally misinterpreted. he was trying to close down the meatgrinder.
13:21 asciilifeform by butchering the staff
13:21 chetty absolutely, the meatgrinder is a bureaucracy like any other, and they don't die easy
13:21 asciilifeform (didn't work)
13:21 mircea_popescu in general, in pursuit of an idea the bone gets picked rather closely of meat.
13:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform someone needs to write an actual biography of stalin sometime.
13:21 asciilifeform give it another century.
13:21 asciilifeform 'Great Chiefs of the Iron Age'
13:21 mircea_popescu all extant ones that i know of are written by dumbstruck idiots who think the man was somehow grand
13:22 mircea_popescu the man was not grand in any sense. he was merelysimple.
13:22 mircea_popescu the mental model for stalin is roughly speaking a 15 yo country boy.
13:23 asciilifeform ;;google "great chiefs of the iron age"
13:23 gribble Tribal chief - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_chief>; CHAPTER 10: LATER IRON AGE STATES AND ... - Palgrave: <http://www.palgrave.com/history/shillington/students/keypoints/chapter10.doc>; Ancient Egyptian raw materials: metals - copper, bronze, iron, gold ...: <http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/trades/metals.htm>
13:23 mircea_popescu somehow ends up in the laboratory of power, obviously he pushes that ftizic trotsky aside. why not ?
13:23 asciilifeform fail
13:23 mircea_popescu and then, kinda is constantly scared by and trying to escape his own creations
13:24 asciilifeform phun phact. russian truck drivers had portraits of stalin in their windshields (facing out.) possibly even now.
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13:25 asciilifeform to the folks who didn't get dinged, he stood for... order. the empire having its shit together in some form. etc
13:25 mircea_popescu yup
13:25 asciilifeform 'Whether because of its historical traditions or for some other reason, the idea of self-government, of equality before the law and of personal freedom--and the responsibility that goes with these--are almost completely incomprehensible to the Russian people...To the majority of the people the very word 'freedom' is synonymous with 'disorder' or the opportunity to indulge with impunity in some kind of antisocial
13:25 asciilifeform or dangerous activity.'
13:26 mircea_popescu the empire wanted (correctly) its sovereignity invested properly
13:26 mircea_popescu and so it was.
13:26 asciilifeform (amalrik, 'Will the Soviet Union Survive 1984')
13:26 mircea_popescu i vote for "other reason" : because it's fucking dumb, that's why.
13:26 mircea_popescu not only does it not work, but it provably can not work.
13:26 asciilifeform aye
13:27 asciilifeform the supposed 'savages' get it.
13:27 asciilifeform and the 'civilized man' - not so much.
13:27 mircea_popescu as is generally the case.
13:27 mircea_popescu one does not bother to call another barbar unless the another said something that really scared our one.
13:27 mircea_popescu and you don't get scared by imagination.
13:27 asciilifeform civilized man has to overcome his OD on coke, or reddit, or whatever, to make the jump.
13:28 mircea_popescu nature makes no jumps.
13:28 mircea_popescu civilised man shall have his dawn, and a proper burial.
13:28 kakobrekla !up ronkrt
13:33 Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 93(Y):7(N) by coin, 93(Y):7(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,929.
13:34 asciilifeform http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/oadam/33724550/105705/105705_original.gif
13:36 asciilifeform http://img11.nnm.me/1/f/7/7/1/38cec3b3fd4898c951e2ee8b9ea_prev.jpg
13:36 asciilifeform ^ translation: 'this is comrade stalin. you must know because of whom you still live.'
13:37 mircea_popescu they had the same of nicholas
13:38 asciilifeform until he pissed away the realm
13:40 mircea_popescu i blame his cousin or what was it
13:40 mircea_popescu the general of moscow
13:41 chetty MP makes me sad, I can see the truth of much but it is hard to swallow happily, and that I guess is what drives the libs in the end. Truth hurts
13:45 mircea_popescu !up olliec
13:50 chetty "Some babies (aka fetuses) get their brains sucked out at birth. Others (aka Fulbights) get their brains sucked out at Berkely." (anonymous)
13:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.0753 = 1.0542 BTC [+]
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14:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.075 = 1.125 BTC [-] {2}
14:09 mircea_popescu lol
14:17 asciilifeform chetty: mp is rather like a surgeon - if surgeon could cry, he could not work - somethinglikethat
14:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.0008333 = 18.1659 BTC [+] {3}
14:25 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: is there a zero asset corporstion blog post?
14:25 mircea_popescu no.
14:25 thestringpuller ;;google site:trilema.com the zero asset corporation
14:25 gribble Accounting for the nonzero asset corporation. The MPEx standard ...: <http://trilema.com/accounting-for-the-nonzero-asset-corporation-the-mpex-standard>; BitBet, May 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-may-2014-statement/>; The list of discontinued assets on MPEx pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: <http://trilema.com/the-list-of- (1 more message)
14:25 thestringpuller :(
14:25 thestringpuller more
14:26 thestringpuller ;;more
14:26 gribble discontinued-assets-on-mpex>
14:31 benkay ;;later tell vexual yes that's interesting zone right there hmu
14:31 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:37 benkay <kakobrekla> <benkay> talk to kakobrekla it's his ruleset < only if you are in wot and authed but dont reach the levels. < grand refinement
14:44 kakobrekla is that supposed to be sarcastic?
14:45 Apocalyptic hard to tell
14:46 kakobrekla dunno maybe he is 13 too.
14:52 benkay * fluffypony polishes his elite GPG key // so leet
14:53 benkay Mats_cd03: and you were recently giving me a hard time about crypto. mhmmmmmmmm.
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15:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.0747627 = 2.9157 BTC [-] {3}
15:21 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/vreau-sa-mi-spui-frumoasa-zaraza/
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15:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2828 @ 0.00082927 = 2.3452 BTC [-]
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16:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 447 @ 0.023 = 10.281 BTC [-] {2}
16:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 133 @ 0.023 = 3.059 BTC [-]
16:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 200 @ 0.04405928 = 8.8119 BTC [-]
16:07 FabianB $help
16:07 empyex FabianB: Commands: '$avg' '$conference' '$depth' '$depth <mpsic>' '$email' '$help' '$moo' '$mpexlag' '$post <pastebin-url-with-signcrypted-mpex-command>' '$proxies' '$unconfirmed' '$vwap' '$vwap <mpsic>'
16:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 200 @ 0.023 = 4.6 BTC [-]
16:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07357817 = 0.7358 BTC [-] {2}
16:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0735789 = 0.8094 BTC [+] {2}
16:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.074 = 1.036 BTC [+] {2}
16:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00082801 = 24.0951 BTC [-] {4}
16:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00082608 = 4.0065 BTC [-]
16:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 153 @ 0.02099346 = 3.212 BTC [+] {4}
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17:06 BingoBoingo %ticker
17:06 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 180 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: 235 Low: 235 VWAP: 235
17:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 70 @ 0.04405928 = 3.0841 BTC [-]
17:26 artifexd I now understand mp's desire to limit []bot's reports in here to bets >= 1BTC. There have been a lot of bets lately. It would have made for a lot of noise in here.
17:32 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
17:32 gribble Current Blocks: 306006 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 425 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 11 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13029789422.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.83002
17:35 benkay considered reporting when a bet total ratchets past integer btc at stake? in the same vein as the ticker bots accumulating trades under 1B
17:36 Bet placed: 1.96067479 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 30(Y):70(N) by coin, 30(Y):70(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.43833639 BTC. Current weight: 99,389.
17:40 artifexd benkay: Bets within a certain period of time or in total?
17:41 benkay in total, I was thinking.
17:41 benkay there may be better approaches, artifexd
17:42 artifexd Yeah. They don't happen often enough to consolidate, yet.
17:47 Mats_cd03 benkay: ncurses is p annoying i am reconsidering working on bit-c ;(
17:49 benkay nooooo
17:50 benkay ui in general is 10x more annoying than other things
17:50 punkman I made my first curses app today
17:51 punkman using this Urwid library, it's nice but not nice enough
17:51 punkman there must be something better
18:01 benkay if only there were a reactive ncurses thing
18:02 benkay Mats_cd03: does bit-c have anything resembling a usable api?
18:04 Mats_cd03 no but parts of the jsonrpc code is written
18:07 Mats_cd03 wat is 'reactive'
18:07 Mats_cd03 is this some web4.0
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18:26 bitcoinpete dat hashrate
18:27 nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/nB0rMkF.png
18:27 nubbins` dat tux
18:27 bitcoinpete >103 ph/s
18:27 bitcoinpete tux =/ suit
18:27 nubbins` i meant the magical type of tux
18:28 nubbins` ;;gettrust bitcoinpete magicaltux
18:28 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user bitcoinpete to user magicaltux: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -3 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=bitcoinpete&dest=magicaltux | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=magicaltux | Rated since: Mon Dec 20 13:21:21 2010
18:29 bitcoinpete nubbins`: eh i must've missed that in the logs… what's the story?
18:30 nubbins` :(
18:30 Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.58833639 BTC. Current weight: 99,270.
18:30 nubbins` ;;google magicaltux
18:30 gribble Mark Karpeles (MagicalTux) on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/MagicalTux>; MagicalTux (Mark Karpeles) · GitHub: <https://github.com/MagicalTux>; overview for MagicalTux - Reddit: <http://www.reddit.com/user/MagicalTux>
18:30 thestringpuller ;;gettrust magicaltux
18:30 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user magicaltux: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -3 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=magicaltux | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=magicaltux | Rated since: Mon Dec 20 13:21:21 2010
18:30 bitcoinpete ;;seen magicaltux
18:30 gribble I have not seen magicaltux.
18:31 nubbins` ;;google mark karpeles
18:31 gribble Mark Karpelès - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Karpel%C3%A8s>; Mark Karpeles (MagicalTux) on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/MagicalTux>; Mt Gox CEO Mark Karpeles 'Not Willing' To Go To America ...Yet ...: <http://www.forbes.com/sites/leoking/2014/04/16/mt-gox-founder-mark-karpeles-not-willing-to-go-to-america-yet/>
18:31 nubbins` &c, &c
18:31 gribble Error: "c," is not a valid command.
18:31 nubbins` oh shush
18:32 bitcoinpete https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/478121705391403008
18:32 assbot Very nice sunset on Tokyo today http://t.co/3ygEIVkJwM
18:32 nubbins` yeah
18:32 nubbins` comments doubleplus good
18:32 fluffypony VERY NICE
18:32 nubbins` that's not actually the sun off in the distance
18:32 nubbins` it's the smouldering rage of thousands of broke nerds
18:32 bitcoinpete lol those comments… "fuck you fatass!"
18:33 bitcoinpete it's the smouldering rage of thousands of broke doods who can't download and backup multibit
18:35 benkay Mats_cd03: it's a mathematical formalism for talking about systems that evolve over time in response to inputs.
18:35 benkay Mats_cd03: consider a program that's essentially a function of a time series of events
18:37 bitcoinpete so the australian securities exchange has completely lost its marbles
18:37 bitcoinpete "DigitalBTC, which began as a mining operation but also engages in bitcoin trading and is developing retail and consumer applications, debuted on the Australian Securities Exchange (ASX) this morning as Digital CC Limited (trading as digitalBTC) (ASX code: DCC)."
18:37 benkay Mats_cd03: reactive:imperative::ragel:a pile of regexes
18:37 benkay of course asciilifeform will tell me that someone came up with the notion in the fifties and everyone forgot all about it
18:37 bitcoinpete "Legal requirements for the listing will make digitalBTC “the most transparent bitcoin company around”, according to a spokesperson." << and the biggest! fastest!
18:39 bitcoinpete http://www.coindesk.com/digitalbtc-makes-history-australian-stock-market-debut/
18:39 assbot DigitalBTC Makes History With Australian Stock Market Debut
18:39 kakobrekla now i have a problem. how do i describe a thing that actually is biggest, first, best and so on.
18:41 bitcoinpete kakobrekla: with data, i suppose.
18:41 bitcoinpete http://www.digitalbtc.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/03/March-2014-Quarterly-Update.pdf
18:42 bitcoinpete digitalbtc lost $649k in the last 9 months. win!
18:42 bitcoinpete thankfully, they made $1.6m from the share sale
18:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07453442 = 0.7453 BTC [-]
18:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00083202 = 2.7457 BTC [+]
18:46 nubbins` phew
18:46 nubbins` do that 9 more times and you've got $10mn
18:46 nubbins` think of the respect that kind of coin would buy you
18:48 bitcoinpete since they'll never get that $10m worth of coins, they gotta settle for dat ausbuck
18:50 bitcoinpete argentina 1 - bosnia 0
18:50 bitcoinpete at the half
18:50 * mthreat watching it too
18:50 mthreat i hear the neighbors make noise when they score
18:51 bitcoinpete mthreat: where are you located again?
18:52 mthreat buenos aires
18:53 mthreat so when i say neighbors, I mean _all_ the neighbors
18:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00083202 = 7.405 BTC [+]
18:53 bitcoinpete lol well ya
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19:15 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
19:15 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 577.21, vol: 9761.74530252 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 582.001, vol: 6303.49953 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 584.0, vol: 14402.56292735 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 586.08, vol: 39.0372826 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 584.108, vol: 4206.21900000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 589.547, vol: 36.0798484 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 579.2524932, vol: 47.95354313 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
19:15 BingoBoingo ;;more
19:15 gribble 581.747656914
19:18 BingoBoingo %book
19:18 atcbot 35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172
19:21 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what happened to the MPOE may statement?
19:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00082914 = 13.515 BTC [-] {2}
19:32 benkay thestringpuller: it's coming next month. see logs ;)
19:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.07317701 = 2.5612 BTC [-] {7}
19:44 thestringpuller benkay: thx found it
19:44 thestringpuller didn't know though there'd be a trilema post
19:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.07036291 = 2.1109 BTC [-] {6}
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20:19 thestringpuller %diff
20:19 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 438803.55 in 889 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -38.66
20:26 BingoBoingo https://chronicle.com/forums/index.php?topic=53051.0
20:26 assbot Dry Erase Boards vs. Chalk Boards
20:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.21966306 = 1.5376 BTC [-] {4}
20:37 mircea_popescu o hai ass ets
20:37 mircea_popescu <artifexd> I now understand mp's desire to limit []bot's reports in here to bets >= 1BTC. There have been a lot of bets lately. It would have made for a lot of noise in here. << :p
20:37 BingoBoingo o hai
20:38 mircea_popescu lol noboy voiced * pmarcup (~circuser-@12.130.117.131) has joined #bitcoin-assets ? what if it was teh horowitz guy ?
20:39 BingoBoingo http://oglaf.com/ladder/
20:39 assbot ladder
20:40 BingoBoingo Well, did pmarcup ask anyone for voice?
20:41 mircea_popescu i dun get it ;/
20:41 BingoBoingo The simplest test for having a minimal level of participation in this channel is now, when realizing you can't speak can you ask someone online to offer you voice. It's such a low barrier to entry that... If the Horowitz guy could not solve that problem...
20:42 mircea_popescu this is a point
20:42 mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats
20:42 gribble Current Blocks: 306036 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 395 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 2 hours, 9 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13088465973.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.32912
20:43 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves had it, look at the hash explosion
20:44 BingoBoingo Coin Terra's data center is in Utah. I wonder how much hash they have out there in the desert...
20:44 mircea_popescu is ghash still 50% ?
20:45 BingoBoingo I haven't looked.
20:45 mircea_popescu <bitcoinpete> so the australian securities exchange has completely lost its marbles << why ? they wanna compete in the ghlobal markets.
20:46 mircea_popescu <bitcoinpete> thankfully, they made $1.6m from the share sale << kinda pathetic i guess.
20:46 mircea_popescu * mthreat watching it too << dude everyone here was watching it, it was uncanny going down the streets and seeing everybody in all the eateries, bars, restaurants, everything just oriented the same way like it was fucking mecca
20:47 mircea_popescu the waiters gathered round like they're not even working there
20:47 mircea_popescu etc
20:49 mircea_popescu under 40% now
20:50 mircea_popescu ghash i mean
20:50 mircea_popescu !up anthor_
21:00 mthreat <mircea_popescu> ... everything just oriented the same way like it was fucking mecca << it's a religion... apparently in 1978 when they won the world cup, it was big a distraction as the government was kidnapping, torturing, and killing 30,000 "desaparecidos".
21:00 mircea_popescu o which reminds me, whats with this bruno guy in peur
21:04 mircea_popescu a ok, mental case. nm.
21:06 BingoBoingo !up elliot_
21:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20934 @ 0.0008258 = 17.2873 BTC [-] {2}
21:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00082742 = 21.0992 BTC [+]
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21:50 kakobrekla <mircea_popescu> under 40% now < thats whats published.
21:50 mircea_popescu conspiraci ?
21:50 mircea_popescu the over 50% that sent todd in a tizzy was also what's published.
21:51 kakobrekla yes but its not a problem until you are at 50
21:52 kakobrekla they supposedly turned off 20% of their power and total network is +11%
21:52 kakobrekla not going well together
21:52 mircea_popescu lol
21:53 asciilifeform the notion that public knows anything about distribution of hash cycles - is a bit strange.
21:53 mircea_popescu it's not just up 11%
21:53 kakobrekla well whatever.
21:53 mircea_popescu in fact, it's 11% over TWO WEEKS, when two days ago it was up 5%
21:53 mircea_popescu so it made .06 of 14 days in one. it's up 100%
21:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform muy.
21:54 mircea_popescu but quite in line with the presumptious ignorance of redditards. they also think they know things about politics, and even imagine they influence it.
22:00 thestringpuller ;;calc 20 * 180
22:00 gribble 3600
22:09 thestringpuller do the redditards think they influenced the hash distribution?
22:09 asciilifeform sure.
22:09 asciilifeform (see the 40% figure)
22:10 Mats_cd03 spurs dominating :(
22:11 thestringpuller go to r/bitcoin. digitalbtc is one of the top posts. bitcoinpete already destroyed it in the logs...
22:13 mircea_popescu uh why destroyed ?
22:13 thestringpuller +bitcoinpete> digitalbtc lost $649k in the last 9 months. win! << watching game of thrones when I read that, sorry i is no good with these things they call words
22:14 mircea_popescu a, that. well... "pe investitii"
22:18 thestringpuller random: i guess the accounting standard for the zero asset corporation is self explanatory?
22:24 mircea_popescu thestringpuller should be. "1. distribute all income."
22:25 thestringpuller ah, and of capital pool that is used to operate? (like the mpoe bond)
22:28 mircea_popescu well that'd depend on the arrangement the bond has. it's not required or anything
22:28 thestringpuller it seems beneficiary for people to see no? Is that more of a "Misc"?
22:30 mircea_popescu not a matter of that dude, it just depends on how the bond is structured. as the bond is structured, so it is reported.
22:30 thestringpuller understood.
22:30 thestringpuller thank you.
22:30 mircea_popescu not all an0 have to have some sort of mpoe bond equivalnent just becaue mpoe did
22:31 thestringpuller yea but if the company isn't required to hold assets to operate then...
22:32 mircea_popescu that's what an0 is. no assets.
22:32 thestringpuller doesn't require* (not isn't)
22:32 mircea_popescu uh a0 i mean
22:32 thestringpuller okay sorry was confused there for a second
22:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29069 @ 0.00082773 = 24.0613 BTC [+] {3}
22:46 mircea_popescu !up anthor_
22:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0729998 = 1.46 BTC [-]
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23:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29876 @ 0.00082657 = 24.6946 BTC [-] {2}
23:13 nubbins` ;;view
23:13 gribble #20672 Mon Jun 2 11:57:18 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 OFFICIAL #bitcoin-assets t-shirt @ 0.042584 BTC (Worldwide shipping included. Optional '#bitcoin-assets / freenode' text on back. http://imgur.com/jmcSFTx)
23:16 mircea_popescu such a delightful insider joke that :D
23:16 nubbins` not unpopular so far, either
23:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26230 @ 0.00082336 = 21.5967 BTC [-] {3}
23:19 mircea_popescu curious if they end up collector's items lol
23:21 mircea_popescu %book
23:21 atcbot 35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172
23:21 nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/IhcV6Fc.jpg
23:22 mircea_popescu hmm how did you get the volume again ?
23:22 nubbins` unsure
23:22 mircea_popescu someone should put on their blog a complete guide of all the commands for all the bots
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23:22 mircea_popescu that'd be one hell of a reference piece
23:22 mircea_popescu actually, it should go in the wiki tbh
23:22 mircea_popescu ;;seen moiety
23:22 gribble moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 22 hours, 41 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <moiety> krs1 have you tried releasing the nick in case they havent registered it?
23:22 nubbins` wiki would be the place
23:23 mircea_popescu ;;later tell moiety hey, when you have a moment mebbe http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2014#720214
23:23 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
23:23 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:23 mircea_popescu this thing's grown so complex by now it defies memory.
23:24 mircea_popescu actually i should prolly bitch at botmasters too.
23:24 mircea_popescu FabianB and was atcbot mod6 iirc. who's running []bot artifexd ?
23:29 mod6 whats up mp?
23:29 mircea_popescu mind putting a list of bot commands up on the wiki as part of a "chan bots commands page" ?
23:30 mircea_popescu for atcbot i mean. it was yours wasn't it ?
23:30 mod6 yup. sure. I can work on that this week np.
23:30 mircea_popescu ty
23:30 hanbot mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ba-8-8.jpg << didja notice your nametag kinda looks like "histerp"? hipster misspelling mebbe
23:30 mod6 yw
23:33 mircea_popescu hanbot shit it's actually "hipsters" anagram
23:33 mircea_popescu now what do i do
23:34 artifexd []bot is mine! yes
23:34 artifexd stupid autocorrect.
23:35 mircea_popescu http://collarme.com/2014/05/hello-world/ << largest bdsm forum closes, apparently tons of drama
23:35 assbot Where is Collarme? | Where is Collarme?
23:35 artifexd []bot is mine! yes.
23:35 mircea_popescu artifexd mind putting a list of bot commands up on the wiki as part of a "chan bots commands page" ?
23:35 hanbot maybe the hipsters'll start spelling it that way just for you mp.
23:36 artifexd if I ever add commands, no problem.
23:37 mircea_popescu o wait
23:37 mircea_popescu i thjought it had some.
23:37 mircea_popescu my bad. see, i have nfi what's going on even
23:38 artifexd Shall I put something on there about it showing all bets created and bets placed in ##bitbet-rt ?
23:39 hanbot this collarme closure thingie reads like a slightly more literate (though entirely as retarded) forum ipo pronouncement of lost marbles.
23:39 mircea_popescu artifexd we prolly need a Bots megapage anyway. so this could go in botlist and then bot commands could be further down the page, as a list
23:40 mircea_popescu hanbot you don' say.
23:40 mod6 mp: i'll work in a change so that it'll show bids/asks sub 1000 on the book command, instead of the 0s.
23:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00082786 = 13.8253 BTC [+]
23:40 mircea_popescu mod6 the 0's are kinda funny. and also you know, maybe one day Ms
23:40 mod6 i've got another change to merge in too, a bugfix to the time-since-last-block thing too.
23:41 bitstein I shared this with bitcoinpete the other day. It's been a very influential essay for me since high school. It explains what I appreciate about groups like #bitcoin-assets. You guys should read it: http://archive.lewrockwell.com/orig3/nock3b.html
23:41 assbot Isaiah's Job by Albert Jay Nock
23:41 artifexd ;;later tell kakobrekla Can I get a wiki account please?
23:41 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:42 mircea_popescu so this collarme thing is basically... couple broke up, then the girl's new boyfriend insited on a contract... quite drama-y
23:44 hanbot I continued to work on Collarme.com and even answered work emails while I was at the hospital in labor.
23:44 asciilifeform as with all such stories, would be interesting to read the 'enemy' side
23:44 hanbot where's the footage ffs
23:44 artifexd Why would my dumb ass ipad autocorrect "[]bot is mine, yes" to "[]bot is mine! yes" TWICE!?
23:45 mircea_popescu asciilifeform srsly.
23:45 mircea_popescu artifexd try bitcoin-apple ? :D
23:45 mircea_popescu holy shit, this got everything. tetralogy of fallot even
23:46 mthreat bitstein: are you in Austin?
23:46 mircea_popescu i vote best drama of the week award.
23:46 bitstein mthreat: depends on who is asking
23:46 bitstein (Yes, I am.)
23:47 mthreat bitstein: just checking, i met you at one or two of the bitcoin meetups at central market
23:47 mthreat bitstein: i'm living in argentina now, so i haven't been around there for a while
23:48 mircea_popescu the small world.
23:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31135 @ 0.00082856 = 25.7972 BTC [+] {2}
23:48 bitstein Ah, cool. Well hopefully I will see you in April then.
23:53 asciilifeform if the woman owned the domain - why no fork ?
23:53 asciilifeform why the lament page instead
23:53 asciilifeform somehow this doesn't make sense
23:54 asciilifeform (or i'm thick)
23:54 Apocalyptic because theatrality
23:54 asciilifeform fork, wait to be sued, win
23:55 asciilifeform if her hands atrophied from grief, sure there's some fellow willing to do it for a %
23:56 asciilifeform http://collarme.com/2014/05/an-attempt-to-answer-some-questions/#comment-1764
23:56 assbot An attempt to answer some questions. | Where is Collarme?
23:56 asciilifeform ^ interesting
23:56 mircea_popescu i've not got that far
23:57 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> why the lament page instead << she cnat coed.
23:57 mircea_popescu also, woman with newborn. she can't do anything whatsoever.
23:57 asciilifeform can presumably contract it out
23:58 mircea_popescu from what i read, she already has.
23:58 mircea_popescu guy ran off with the code.
23:58 asciilifeform aha
23:59 asciilifeform the thing, as i understand - is dead
23:59 asciilifeform regardless of who sues/wins
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