#trilema | 2014-01-21

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9000 @ 0.00009004 = 0.8104 BTC [-] {9}

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[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.026 = 0.13 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2268 @ 0.00008971 = 0.2035 BTC [-] {2}

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It does sound more and more like the place is probbly going to remain available for quite a while yet so I guess I will check it out every month or few and see how desperate that become to get rid of it

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maybe pick up and refurbish the other couple of places I have been looking at first. Go at them in cheapest place first sequence.

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I have a 290 BTC loan. Ultra crazy

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denominated in BTC ?

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yes

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ouch

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Used to be 400

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you pay a little each time BTC dives?

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Nope. What does it matter if BTC dives?

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well if you have fiat income for example

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.d

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1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 615 blocks | Estimated Change: 20.5175% in 3d 9h 24m 13s

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Oh. Not much fiat income actually

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 60000 @ 0.00008084 = 4.8504 BTC [-] {22}

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How much (ballpark) would an option to buy bitcoin in say six months or nine or a year for today's price cost?

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Namworld you took a loan or gave it?

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 14408 @ 0.00008 = 1.1526 BTC [-]

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I took a loan

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uh

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cmon you are not a btc newb

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It's nothing new, been going for a long time

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I should have bought more than just a few million DOGE to scatter across a huge range of highball sell offers, my selsl are being eaten up like crazy

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such bids

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much profit on tiny amount of capital :(

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 19000 @ 0.00008 = 1.52 BTC [-] {2}

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silly doge

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oh well it will go down and hit my remaining even lower lowball buy offers soon maybe

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00098858 = 21.7488 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.000076 = 0.228 BTC [-] {4}

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How much does CBTC even earns?

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Nice question. Maybe it is time for me to start looking into actually making some use of my MPOE seat assuming such things do not expire thus that I still have it.

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9.16% apy on cbtc

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everytime i see the word doge i facedesk

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so hard

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ugh... 9.16% APY on something BTC related...

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i think i just broke my nose that time

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their last div was 58 satoshi

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much faceplant

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I didn't buy into Satoshi Dice since I figured it was only a matter of time before it ran into legal problems. Didn't think oh yeah it could get bought out by someone who has all the right licenses and jurisdiction (did it?)

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I believe so

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You should have bought a ton at IPO

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Wether you sold high or just accrued divs until it sold, you'd have earned a good chunk

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Oh I was broke way back then.

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Maybe less than 100 bitcoins as it mgiht have been before I got the bounty for helping to create DVC

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Would have been enough to make a good chunk

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I wasnt about to risk precious bitcoins on some third party site let alone on fourth party offerigns on such a site

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00098858 = 5.8821 BTC [-]

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If was going to bie at all back then I would have gone for S.MPOE itself or whatever it is called

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s/bie/bite/

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or buy

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and maybe that would have made quite a chunk too? Are there historic plots/charts etc somewhere?

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coinflow.co

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charts -> mpex

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Thanks

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i don't know how far back the data goes

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March by the look of it

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not impressive growth though not a skyrocket, at least in that period, but maybe it was more impressive in the early days

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but maybe the bonds behind the options were better earnings historically?

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in all its history of satoshi dice its all going generally down not up

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SD started much lower than that

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SD went from 0.0022 - 0.0027 IPO slices to 0.007 and then back down or something

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At buyout, each share was bought 0.0032 I think

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Yike S.MD is also a downhill cruise lately

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anyone has any monies on that thing called ripple

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the charts indicate nothing about dividends though

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ripples?

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are they worth something yet?

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I have the giveaway ripples they gave out early on that were much bigger than later giveaways

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maybe a couple of grand USD worth or a grand or so depending on when I check the price

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You could have accrued dividends on SD in the range of up to ~0.0002 per month per share at it's highest I think, or close to that

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actually I sold the first 20000 or so they gave me for bitcoins, at way better price I think that I have seen since

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For like two months where they made 10-20k BTC profits I think

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Other months like 1-5k range mostly

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i just found out i have btc change there and want to get it out

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well apparently yhere ripple fuckers deleted my wallet

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*these ripple fuckers

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huh your wallet in your passphrase basically isnt it?

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ill swap with network btc with a fee if anyone cares

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http://trilema.com/2014/its-not-the-sauce-its-the-poultry-and-other-metamathematical-considerations/

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It’s not the sauce, it’s the poultry and other metamathematical considerations pe Trilema - Un b

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or are you saying they wiped your accoutns from their ledgers?

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Login failed:

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Payward Wallet not found (Username / Password is wrong)

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i just dont want to leave extra money to those fuckers

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ripples are worth a good chunk. They were worth even a lot more earlier, like 5000 ripples for 1 BTC. Now 40k ripples for 1 BTC.

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i didn't type it wrong

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whoa who is this jcpham guy

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sounds like a scammor name.

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who the fuck is this billionaire romanaian

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i keep reading about on the interwebs

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well if i had 75k ripples the last time i logged in and now the account is gone

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i'm callingripple a scam now

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finally

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lol @obamacare. they should have used openbsd.

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mod6 honestly, sounds more like reverend moon's next mass wedding.

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doesn't matter if you can fetch records without even hacking, just by going to an url

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That's poor website security. They could have hosted it on any platform, even the most secure, it doesn't fix incompetence.

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jcpham you stored your "wallet" only on third party storage not on your own disk?

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mircea_popescu: heheh

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dude chill out

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i ypo'd the password

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Namworld yes, but it'd have been funnier.

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omfg, ipo'd passwords

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NOW YOU BROKE ALTCOINS

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mircea_popescu does mpex support dogecoin yet?

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select * from health_care_chumps where 't' = 't'; drop heath_care_chumps; commit;

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yep. mpex supports dogecoin by helping all the dogecoin owners stay out of trouble.

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mod6 alternatively, you could name your son that.

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haha, drop that baby on its head.

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one of the few funny xkcd's

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Vircurex listed DOGE so I made a choice between abandoning Vircurex and taking a flutter of trying my devcoin strategy on DOGE

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if you like your swisscheese website, you can keep it.

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which seems to be working so far, my highball sells are still being gobbled higher and higher

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wow, vircurex also still exists ?

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this is like ghostships on the sea of forgotten memories

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It seems to be more picky about what altcoins to list than any others I came across, and I have been into merged mining since it was invented so wanted someplace that had at least some of the merged mined coins

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mircea_popescu, it's even worse than that

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it still exists and people think it's legit

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its still an anonymous-owner exchange I think?

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cause it's been around for a while you know

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oic.

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knotwork, it's run by some "kumala"

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didn't it get hacked recently,

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and didn't the hack force the guy to wipe the equity of his investors, as he had no other resources ?

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Claimed to be hacked twice and make good, but the second claim seems more suspect than the first because after it got rep from the first claim a russian site also tried the lets say we were hacked then have customers not lose money way to get rep

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there was something like that

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well, musical chairs can be a fun game, especialyl if you don't bring much money.

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so VIrcurex's second such claim might have jsut been a PR response to the Russian response to the gain in rep Vircurex had got the first time around

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00098936 = 32.6489 BTC [+] {2}

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Vircurex always made the customers whole. Though whether there actually had been anything to make them whole about I dunno

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34600 @ 0.00099456 = 34.4118 BTC [+] {2}

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theey might simply have been the inventors of the lets say we got viciously hacked then show how great we are by "making the customers whole" PR tactic

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they made their "customers" whole on the basis of stealing their "investor's" equity.

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this works on average about once.

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huh? not sure what you mean. They claimed hot wallet had been stolen then tht they made up the loss so no customers lost anything

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what "equity" are you thinking of?

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They have shares out on some "exchange" or other is it something about those?

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yup

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oh the shareholders hold the bag for making the customers whole re the hot wallet?

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I thought the shares thing was more recent than the "hacks"

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I admit I never really paid any attention to any of the exhcanges offering shares stuff

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I was amazed people fell for that when the solidcoin guy did it

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no. first the guy sold shares, on outrageous terms

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then... welll... shares get forgetteded about.

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so i dunno what +rep you think you saw or where, but i dun think such a thing occured.

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I thought I saw just days ago they have shares on some exchange or other

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the listing is full of lolz, i'll have th egirl dig it up in the morn.

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cool :)

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Part of why i stick to vircurex is I long ago took back everything I ever put there plus lots of profit so everything at risk there now is just more profit I could have taken

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But buying shares wow weird, first question I'd ask myself is why isn't it listed on MPEx, the answer would likely tip me off

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I havent even taken a flutter on any shares that *are* listed on MPEx yet

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knotwork, see https://vircurex.com/Reports/2013-05.pdf

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"Consequences

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The loss of the funds will be recovered out of the monthly dividends. Dividends will be used to purchase back the missing funds in the coming months. Depending on the trading volume development this is expected to take 9 to 12 months."

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ah other people's money is great stuff isn't it

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ouch

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seriously i'm still amazed they're in business

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i have trouble seriously believing they're in any sort of business

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At least that Irish guy someone actually knew he he was had met him at conferences etc but even so "investing" in one kid running a homebrewed website seems a little dubious at thebest of time

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i mean... so knotwork is being much entertained. that's fine

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"We now pay interest on BTC, LTC, PPC, NVC and WDC account balances, they are paid multiple times every day. Check out the help for details"

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that must be new

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lol that's a fractional reserve innit ?

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what sort of interest ?

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"since we're scamming let's do it mcxnow style baby"

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ponzi alert!

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Its not interest its just a portion off the fees

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of the fees

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mircea_popescu, dunno just saw that on the index page

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oh like a rebate ?

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odd way to go about it.

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formulation fail then

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<knotwork> Its not interest its just a portion off the fees // where do you get this from ?

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not a rebate on your own fees, a share of fees being earned in general

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not off the fees, of the fees

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its like your bitcoins sitting on deposit get you free feshares while they remain on deposit

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feeshares

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butbutbut...

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that BELONGS TO THE INVESTORS

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so they can pay off with the proceeds the other stuff they got stolen from

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roflmao omfg.

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indeed

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this is like a miner bond applied to the exchange

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yeah if anyone knows of a better exchange that has namecoins devcoins and maybe even more merged mined coins I'mi nterested to hear about it

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"everyone is making roi. just find a fiat currency with bad inflation"

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17984 @ 0.00099379 = 17.8723 BTC [-] {2}

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knotwork prolly doesn't exist, and you know, have fun, just don't do something stupid.

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otherwise I just continue to hope the open transactions for grandmas is done soon

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btc-e has nmc

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you know how it goes.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1116 @ 0.00099536 = 1.1108 BTC [+]

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nyooz you can yooze! cafe in my town. people chattering, rumour; schizo woman who frequents the place was drawing 'daisies'. said, 'they're like bitcoins! but on paper!'

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couldn't help but think of casascius. and many other fine folks.

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does anyone know of a website that keeps track of some altcoins hashrate ?

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Vircurex does for those it lists. well it shows current hashrates no history plots etc

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thanks, hum Devcoin has actually some decent hashrate

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merged mining can do that

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depending on the general prevalence of but-its-not-bitcoin sentiment

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considering just hashrate its IXCoin that is the dark horse so far, high hash/difficulty yet not much mass buying yet

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yet?

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Yet. When hashrate becomes a big selling point it would presumably see more volume and/or price

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currently cuteness of meme is the bigger selling point it seems

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and none of the sctypt coins save maybe possibly litecoin can afford to let hashrate become the selling point of choice

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scrypt

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00672002 = 0.3898 BTC [-] {3}

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oh except maybe the supposedly merged mine capable scrypt coin

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 99 @ 0.00672 = 0.6653 BTC [-] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34450 @ 0.00099542 = 34.2922 BTC [+] {2}

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this seems new http://mall.diginforce.com/goods.php?id=38

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.67 BTC [-]

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So would there be much/any interest in some kind of "buy shares in a fully legally licensed etc etc Open Transactions server" kind of offering?

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As it looks like going legal could be a big whole in the law that one throws money into

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s/whole/hole/

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Its early adopter time still for Open Transactions based stuff, oculd be good potential there...

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Speaking of holes, was the signifigance of the revolutionary flag in '89 to cut out the old coat of arms?

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the coat of arms was associated with the socialist republic

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the flag had borne the king's arms afore, then after the war the communists copied this form, just with a new design.

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Romanian_Army_Flag_-_1940_used_model.svg << ww2 version.

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4782 @ 0.00008249 = 0.3945 BTC [+] {2}

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the current coat of romania is pretty much the same, minus the hermelin.

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I some old footage recently, it stuck with me.

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1250 @ 0.000085 = 0.1063 BTC [+]

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thx for the link :]

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http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/ << officially largest btc bet in history of btc betting eh.

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BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014

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;;bc,stats

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is it also the largest in number of confirmed bets?

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wow looks like easy money this late in the game, what is the catch?

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s.bbet just had its 1st birthday

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Are there fees or somesuch that will eat the meagre win-profit if one bets yes this late?

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read da faq. there is a weight.

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fees are in the calculator

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1% fee in effect it looks like. two thirds of the currently estimated winnings

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oh the winnings listed/calculated already have the fee taken out? The FAQ seems to imply otherwise.

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doge gonna pop

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knotwork the calculator on the page is accounting for everything

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whatever is under 'out' in resolved bets table it has the fee taken out.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00099267 = 15.6346 BTC [-] {2}

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resolved ones sure, what I am puzzling over is where it shows what a Yes or a No would pay on currently still running bet. FAQ seems to indicate that calculation is not including the fee

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mod6 i think the confirmed bets is like 200

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Specifically, the "Yes pays: 1.01596192 BTC" on page http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/

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if that does not take fee into account the fee would eat almost 2/3rds of the winnings

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even if the weight didndt change by end of time of liveness of the bet, which it probably will

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so I am thinking the "catch" is that by the time the betting is closed the Yes would pay less than what one bet

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31950 @ 0.0009887 = 31.589 BTC [-]

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knotwork let's do the math.

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;;calc 7992959/45677252 * 1743.52

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305.094620746

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the calc accounts for the 1% fee

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;;calc 8760 / 45677252 / 7992959 * 1743.52

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4.18334311068e-08

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juesus im too tired to maff

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thats why you have the calc in the first place.

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so you can play tired.

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aite ty

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:)

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Maybe it would help to have it say either "Yes pays: 1.01596192 BTC after fees" or say "Yes pays: 1.01596192 BTC before fees" to make it crystal clean in your face kind of thing

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s/clean/clear/

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"given current time weight and assuming no one else bets" > "after fees, given current time weight and assuming no one else bets" ?

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sure, great, you are the great writer/grammaticist/sequencer of words just so its clear is all I was after

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well would the 2nd work for your purpose ?

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Thanks yes exactly it makes it pretty clear

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and saves having to repeat the "after fees" words on both the yes line and the no line

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id go with "given current time weight and assuming no one else bets, including fees"

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yeah that too would work

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though hmm somehow it doesn't "sound" quite as good

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after fees is clear. including fees is not clear.

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are they included in the sense of not substracted, or included in the sense of having been assesed.

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ah yes there ya go but also just tacking it on the end doesnt seem as ncie as putting it in front I dont know why

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just seems more choppy to me, putting in it front

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but whatever, its in front now and live.

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bah two lines

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take "time" out ?

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would smaller font be legible?

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1 line here

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after fees, given current weight and assuming no one else bets

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oh width of browser/screen effects?

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I CARE OF NO OTHER BROWSER THAN MY OWN

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ok time is out

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ELEVENTEEN

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does that fix it

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its one line for me regardless of scrunching the wondow smaller

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nope ;/ given current weight > at current weight

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window

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yes but you probably use something sane.

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Firefox, does that count?

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myeah.

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oh gosh you aren't on Internet Explorer are you?!?!

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im on bitbrowsercoinbit

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f5

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splendid

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its right-justified instead of centred

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now let's hope nobody else further breaks our nice site with their IMPROVEMENTS

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fook you all

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or something. left margin larger than right margin for that line

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it's good as is!

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")

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:)

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its not metalic rainbow hue with unicorns!

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yes its not on the center

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now it bothers me.

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:)

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well im off to bed. don't do anything drastic

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see how this avalanche goes

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like rainbows or unicorns

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its like the sound of the train going fruit and nut, fruit and nut, fruit and nut in the caadburys ad

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change is bad mkay

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^^^

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te cadburys ad they used to put in trains

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.66188008 = 3.3094 BTC [-] {3}

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the train goes change is bad, change is bad, change is bad... ;)

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ok i think that should do it.

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oh nice its centred!

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it didnt change really did it? it was entred before the changes wasnt it?

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centred

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at least I had not noticed a lack of centre originally

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Thanks

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well it was on center but on center of li which is not on center

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ah

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dunno why it shows more now, prolly cause shorter text

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well I had not noticed it before the first change but maybe merely because my attention was not really on that line back then

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ok we can do the unicorns another time :D

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.04999997 = 2.25 BTC [+]

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:)

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i go as well. later

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gnite

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.0066171 = 0.2514 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.08500666 = 0.255 BTC [-] {2}

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.0027 = 1.35 BTC [-]

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Well having invested so many unicorns into spiffing up the website I guess I should consider investing in the shares :)

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[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.07480014 = 0.2244 BTC [-] {3}

02:34

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24791 @ 0.0009887 = 24.5109 BTC [-] {3}

02:47

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 292 @ 0.0028468 = 0.8313 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 295 @ 0.002847 = 0.8399 BTC [+] {3}

02:49

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1064 @ 0.00285203 = 3.0346 BTC [+] {3}

02:50

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 134 @ 0.0028847 = 0.3865 BTC [+] {2}

02:51

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 650 @ 0.00289653 = 1.8827 BTC [+] {3}

02:53

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 719 @ 0.00289999 = 2.0851 BTC [+] {2}

02:55

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.0066003 = 0.4818 BTC [-]

03:00

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 87 @ 0.04999998 = 4.35 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1376 @ 0.00289999 = 3.9904 BTC [-] {2}

03:04

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 424 @ 0.00294 = 1.2466 BTC [+]

03:07

[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09439998 = 0.2832 BTC [+] {2}

03:09

[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.09715 = 0.1943 BTC [+] {2}

03:19

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00099044 = 19.0164 BTC [+]

03:30

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00098986 = 23.2122 BTC [-] {3}

03:31

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00674993 = 0.27 BTC [+] {5}

03:38

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.675 = 1.35 BTC [+] {2}

~ 25 minutes ~

04:04

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.67 = 3.35 BTC [-]

04:05

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 94 @ 0.00677795 = 0.6371 BTC [+] {2}

04:16

.bait

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http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m76rjbYMyb1qd3a89o1_500.jpg

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.bait

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http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdkjvrXntv1qiqa2no1_500.jpg

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6617 BTC [-]

04:17

ahem

04:17

ahem

04:17

.bait

04:17

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdk819jxD01qedo9to1_500.jpg

04:17

fap fap fap

04:29

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00098652 = 9.1746 BTC [-] {2}

04:37

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00099095 = 14.0715 BTC [+]

~ 16 minutes ~

04:53

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00099534 = 12.4418 BTC [+] {2}

04:53

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6617 BTC [-]

~ 28 minutes ~

05:22

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00099218 = 21.6295 BTC [-]

05:24

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.00662481 = 0.4704 BTC [-] {2}

~ 20 minutes ~

05:44

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 800 @ 0.00646498 = 5.172 BTC [-] {9}

05:45

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.64012 = 6.4012 BTC [-] {3}

05:45

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 226 @ 0.00637003 = 1.4396 BTC [-] {3}

05:48

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.0009904 = 3.9616 BTC [-]

05:59

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.0009904 = 4.1102 BTC [-]

06:07

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6400 @ 0.000085 = 0.544 BTC [+]

06:08

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 356 @ 0.00086972 = 0.3096 BTC [-]

06:08

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.026 = 0.26 BTC [-]

06:08

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.0009904 = 4.0111 BTC [-]

06:08

fap fap fap

06:08

.bait

06:09

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1qiupufmX1qgxozfo1_1280.jpg

06:15

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 32 @ 0.02609997 = 0.8352 BTC [+]

06:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00098763 = 20.3452 BTC [-] {2}

06:28

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12585 @ 0.00099002 = 12.4594 BTC [+]

06:29

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 332 @ 0.00294895 = 0.9791 BTC [+] {4}

06:30

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 108 @ 0.002967 = 0.3204 BTC [+]

06:31

sorry, i just dont see LTC being replaced by 'doge'

06:31

Any body donate for Macbook pro, I need it to develop my project

06:32

my e-mail vdchernikov@gmail.com

06:34

what project

06:36

I develops 3 Android application and one service for my city. Service : Sellers of my city will made photo of their most interest product and send this photo with geo tags via mobile application on server.

06:36

Other people will come on site and see that products.

06:37

I have family - wife and little son and I develops that project to earn for my family

06:38

But my curren PC is old and noise and it waking up wife and children when I working at night

06:38

And I want to buy laptop to start working at any place

06:38

VitalyChernikov: shouldn't you be asking the users of your apps first?

06:39

Yes I asked before my frends and others IT specialists - they approved my idea

06:39

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33050 @ 0.00099095 = 32.7509 BTC [+] {4}

06:39

And there no else such service at mu city

06:39

I am from Russia, Rybinsk city

06:40

I need only 2 BTC to buy laptop

06:40

If any want can write me on my e-mail, i will send my photos.

06:41

Yes, I am real man and have family

06:43

But all my salary is always spent on children or wife or food and I can't accumulate money for laptop. I am 28 years.

06:43

maybe u shouldve thought about that before u got wife + children

06:44

Yes, sure. but before it I was learned in institute, than on cathedra and current at 2012 I start work as programmer. Life is awesome

06:45

u make it seem like the wife and children are taking away all ur funds, when u chose that life

06:46

did china come to an agreement with their banks yet?

06:46

Wife and children have motivated me to start work more hard and looking for new ideas. It is big plus

06:46

u should state it that way then :)

06:47

So, if any want to help, simple donate I will said big thanks

06:48

so you want to work more hard but you come here for a handout?

06:48

donate to support ur wife and kids eh?

06:48

No, to buy laptop

06:48

even better

06:48

what r u using now?

06:48

To develops project and then earn on it

06:49

Old PC, that stay at bedroom

06:49

And it is very noise and slowly

06:49

i feel bad for him truffles throw him a few btc

06:49

kinda like mine lol

06:49

no wai im poor

06:49

like 5-10 would be a great start for him

06:50

VitalyChernikov keep asking i'm sure someone will, these folks are very generous.

06:51

id be if i were rich :D

06:51

except id make ppl do things for it heh

06:51

i know you would truffles

06:51

work for it, teh best way, but provide the opportunity

06:51

nothing too complicated though

06:52

and id prob be back to poor so fast lol

06:52

some people are meant to be

06:53

"t is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

06:53

Yes, it is strange and wild step to ask help here, but I decide to try because I hope other programmers will help me

06:54

some times programmers need simple laptop

06:54

And it all that i need to cloase my door and start work next year

06:57

My address 1v5dgomiYSkK21BurZ55VEuQRpmhpgvkz I will share here photo report when I buy laptop and photo of me and family

06:57

Thanks to all

06:57

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29934 @ 0.00098648 = 29.5293 BTC [-] {3}

06:57

And also please write me on e-mail that i may to said thanks

06:57

how can we know its ur family though

06:58

I will report with passport and my name Vitaly Chernikov

06:59

but how will we know its ur passport

06:59

facebook.com/VitalyChernikov

06:59

I will with my photo on passport

07:01

cool

07:02

I am is may be one real man from all others scrammers

07:02

With real family,

07:03

no fake men here

07:03

yes, it i am understood

07:03

I have dream to earn on car for my family

07:04

You know it is very hard without car on winter on frost to go in any place ofcity. That is why I asking heelp for laptop buying

07:05

no jobs in mother russia?

07:06

I am working! At IT company, but salary is $850, I am beginner developer.

07:06

With family it is hard to accumulate for car or for good laptop

07:07

And I develops own project

07:07

Looking for ideas

07:07

and other

07:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20474 @ 0.00098991 = 20.2674 BTC [+]

07:12

Any body donate for Macbook pro I need only 2 BTC, I need it to develop my project / my e-mail vdchernikov@gmail.com / bitcoin address 1v5dgomiYSkK21BurZ55VEuQRpmhpgvkz

07:16

Any body donate for Macbook pro I need only 2 BTC, I need it to develop my project / my e-mail vdchernikov@gmail.com / bitcoin address 1v5dgomiYSkK21BurZ55VEuQRpmhpgvkz

07:17

2 minute intervals hmmm

07:17

good..keep it up!

07:17

Now thats working hard for what you need

07:17

how about once every hour?

07:17

He only needs 2

07:19

Ok, will at on hour)) sorry

07:19

woot

07:19

at one hour

07:19

once every hour

07:20

there is a log so ppl will see it no matter what

07:20

Ok, I understood

07:27

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.638 BTC [-]

07:28

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.61033334 = 1.831 BTC [-] {2}

07:30

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.61 = 6.1 BTC [-]

07:34

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-]

07:46

VitalyChernikov basically the only way out of this is to never repeat it again and claim it was a mis-paste the first time.

07:46

nooo dont ban him

07:47

so he can write spam more efficiently?

07:47

lol

07:47

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00612 = 0.153 BTC [-] {2}

07:47

there is some translation issues though

07:48

maybe he's new to chatrooms

07:48

or somalian

07:48

truffles i'm proud of you..such a big heart =D

07:48

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04999988 = 0.15 BTC [-]

07:48

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19760 @ 0.00098923 = 19.5472 BTC [-] {2}

07:48

Could be serbian or nigerian too.

07:49

im nicer irl :)

07:49

not lol

07:49

but what does it mean to have a big heart though

07:50

I am Russian

07:50

I am not spammer

07:50

I am not scrammer

07:51

Maybe he should get "verified" like they do on Gox before going further.

07:51

I am real man, programmerm that only have one need, and decide ask here help

07:51

Do we have a submission site?

07:52

No I have only facebook - facebook.com/VitalyChernikov,

07:52

VitalyChernikov well ur plea is known now to everyone, this moderator wants to ban u though :(

07:52

because I more Android developer

07:52

hmm now we are getting somewhere

07:53

my e-mail vdchernikov@gmail.com

07:54

remember that B&B tv show on MTV

07:54

Vitaly you dont put your family on your facebook page

07:54

Vitaly Chernikov!

07:54

Oh, sorry,

07:54

why not, he lives in russia heh

07:55

i fuckin hate macs.

07:55

Yes because at Russia it is more popular Vkontakte.ru

07:55

why not = why not post family pics

07:55

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.641 BTC [+]

07:56

kako we have something in common!

07:56

i dont like macs either

07:56

he sidestepped the submission or application process for facebook instead

07:56

i wouldnt know, i never got a facebook

07:56

same

07:57

never thought it was a good idea

07:57

i got a twitter or 2 though

07:57

never posted a tweet yet oddly

07:58

need to work on short witty sentences

07:59

I do not put photo of my family because it is relatively private information. And I may send photo on e-mail

08:00

I have son. wife and we else wait at september children

08:01

if u r legit, its nice that ure not taking away funds from the family to spend rashly on other things

08:05

I feel like there's cheaper ways to write quality software than a Macbook Pro.

08:05

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00282106 = 0.4232 BTC [-] {4}

08:06

I want buy used Macbook that is cheaper than new, but also reliable

08:06

On Macbook you may put both Mac Os and Windows 8

08:06

I'm sure somebody can help him out..trouble is not many people on here yet.

08:07

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 850 @ 0.00276241 = 2.348 BTC [-] {4}

08:07

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 55 @ 0.04999995 = 2.75 BTC [+] {2}

08:07

whyd u want win 8 !

08:07

No, it is as example

08:07

ok

08:08

Some times when you develops in Visual Studio on c# you need Windows

08:08

But all other time it is pretty use MacOs

08:10

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.0061 = 0.4697 BTC [-]

08:10

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.04999998 = 0.5 BTC [+]

08:10

Today minus 15 on celsius, at city of Rybinsk

08:10

good wether

08:10

so warm

08:11

Oympakon seems not so warm

08:11

sorry, good weather

08:12

Oymyakon

08:12

Оймякон

08:12

warm where i am, i wish it would cool down already

08:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.0009864 = 12.8725 BTC [-] {3}

08:20

As we agreed put once at hour: Any body donate for Macbook pro I need only 2 BTC / I need it to develop my Android and web project / my e-mail vdchernikov@gmail.com / facebook.com/VitalyChernikov / bitcoin address 1v5dgomiYSkK21BurZ55VEuQRpmhpgvkz

08:26

wait who agreed to that

08:26

seriously VitalyChernikov , stop with the spam, last warning.

08:27

You should write a script that does it once per hour.

08:28

VitalyChernikov, here's my donation 8=================>

08:28

i made it extra long for you

08:29

here's mine: ~~~~~ :: skeet skeet ::

08:29

if you can't write code on the irc box you're talking from you shouldn't be cutting code

08:29

kakobrekla is forbid me write my announcement

08:30

good

08:30

VitalyChernikov, so stfu?

08:30

anyways, clearly i'm being short tempered and need sleep

08:30

"so stfu?" - what mean?

08:30

*gone* :)

08:30

;;google stfu

08:30

Urban Dictionary: stfu: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stfu>; STFU, Parents: <http://www.stfuparentsblog.com/>; What does STFU mean? - STFU Definition - Meaning of STFU ...: <http://www.internetslang.com/STFU-meaning-definition.asp>

08:31

night Perlboy

08:31

read. learn. and stfu.

08:31

:)

08:31

heh

08:32

kakobrekla is forbid me write my announcement, so any who want help please write on vdchernikov@gmail.com , seriously

08:32

kakobrekla is forbid you but you still do it.

08:32

what was the announcement again

08:32

It is was last message

08:32

seriously.

08:33

lel

08:36

VitalyChernikov: последний шанс - забанят

08:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00098928 = 11.6735 BTC [+]

08:47

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 428 @ 0.00295253 = 1.2637 BTC [+] {6}

08:48

Yes, it is strange to hope that any will donate me. Will looking for about bank kredit.

08:48

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 264 @ 0.00296032 = 0.7815 BTC [+] {3}

08:48

Will looking for about bank credit.

08:49

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1146 @ 0.00296699 = 3.4002 BTC [+] {2}

08:50

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00297345 = 1.4867 BTC [+] {5}

08:51

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 995 @ 0.00297499 = 2.9601 BTC [+] {5}

08:52

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 138 @ 0.00086972 = 0.12 BTC [-]

08:54

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00098928 = 4.9959 BTC [+]

09:00

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 44 @ 0.04999998 = 2.2 BTC [+]

09:02

guys also need small btc 0.2 or 0.3 for cow. kakobrekla is forbid? cow very old is not make milk fast, son very big drink like father

09:02

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.04999999 = 0.4 BTC [+]

09:03

No thanks

09:03

self will earn

09:03

i earn new cow but lose in dog battle, very unlucky

09:04

i will self earn

09:05

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.04999999 = 1.2 BTC [+]

09:09

new cow was beauty. but Nico bet tractor and Nico dog look weak but beat all dog. so now i have only old cow and dog dead

09:09

but 0.2 btc I buy new wire sword and steal cow before Nico do steak

09:12

Any body donate for Macbook pro I need only 2 BTC / I need it to develop my Android project / my e-mail vdchernikov@gmail.com / facebook.com/VitalyChernikov / bitcoin address 1v5dgomiYSkK21BurZ55VEuQRpmhpgvkz

09:12

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3750 @ 0.04999999 = 187.5 BTC [+] {2}

09:12

Yes, ban me, ban me! I want to be baned!

09:13

Good buy all! I will banned

09:14

punkman: lol.

09:14

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.05 = 2.25 BTC [+]

09:14

simlay: you have small btc for cow?

09:15

will send picture of cow when she is back

09:15

I still alive??

09:16

can also sent steak but from old cow, not very good, maybe soup

09:16

have you guys seen dogecoin?

09:16

this shit is to da moon

09:17

I don't understand wtf is happening with dogecoin.

09:17

meme is demand

09:17

The daily transaction volume is larger than the market cap.

09:18

where do I buy dogecoin

09:18

Also, I don't see how dogecoin is different than say lightcoin.

09:19

That's mostly due to ignorance.

09:19

very profitable

09:19

much currency

09:20

200 satoshis

09:20

50k doges = .11btc

09:20

wow

09:20

there's KRS

09:21

Any body donate for Macbook pro I need only 2 BTC / I need it to develop my Android project / my e-mail vdchernikov@gmail.com / facebook.com/VitalyChernikov / bitcoin address 1v5dgomiYSkK21BurZ55VEuQRpmhpgvkz

09:22

I'm no rocket scientist but you've definitely not waited an hour to respam.

09:22

Saw that coming

09:22

lippoper major doge action lel =)

09:24

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00099246 = 10.7186 BTC [+]

09:24

#dogecoin is such a shit show.

09:24

its too fast in there

09:25

Yeah, impossible to follow anything.

09:29

OMG begging for a macbook. :(

09:30

he clearly left too soon

09:32

"DOGE Colored Coins. Such Power! Wow. make new coins. p2p exchange. smart contracts. to the moon."

09:33

I think my favorite part of dogecoin is the lack of complete sentences.

~ 16 minutes ~

09:49

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0062 = 0.155 BTC [-]

10:00

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21450 @ 0.00099423 = 21.3262 BTC [+] {2}

10:04

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0061999 = 0.124 BTC [-]

10:13

much sentence

10:13

such short

10:13

wow

10:23

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61105 = 1.2221 BTC [-] {2}

10:26

"I used to own 25% Bitcoin and 75% Litecoin. I didn't want to sell my Litecoin so instead I dumped my bitcoin and bought 5 Million Doge!! Best decision I ever made and I'm not selling."

10:27

:/

10:27

dogeroad == silkroad but with dogecoin

10:27

dogecoin is as good as litecoin as far as I'm concerned

10:27

probably has better devs

10:29

I agree

10:29

Litecoin devs have been dropping the ball all along the way

10:30

so many opportunities missed

10:30

The devs for doge have fixed a lot of the LTC issues

10:30

as far as I'm concerned it's a better coin

10:30

plus the community is super active

10:31

last time I heard anything about LTC was last year, when koolio and gang raised over 8k LTC for development and nothing came of it

10:31

Shokora

plus it's always fun to see actual money being exchanged on websites littered with memes and nonsensical shit in general

10:31

Shokora

it's like the lulz apocalypse

10:31

they were supposed to be added to Gox

10:32

Doge's difficulty is climbing so fast

10:32

network hash rate has gone from 30GH/s this last thursday to 105GH/s today

10:32

lol

10:33

Difficulty 1065.3591744 Est Next Difficulty 1351.40698655

10:34

it also went from being worth 40-50 satoshis to ~200 satoshis now

10:34

It's the year of the dog

10:35

like the chinese say

10:40

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00099284 = 26.1117 BTC [-] {2}

10:46

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10784 @ 0.00008914 = 0.9613 BTC [+] {3}

10:47

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 35435 @ 0.00009499 = 3.366 BTC [+] {5}

10:51

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.04999999 = 5 BTC [-]

10:55

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.00297499 = 0.1904 BTC [+]

10:57

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/261375947908?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

10:57

Casascius Physical Bitcoins Lealana Bitcoin 12 Coin Collection Silver Gold 5 1 | eBay

10:57

lel

10:57

price?

10:57

or current bid?

10:58

19btc worth of stuff, current bid $9,300

10:58

the20year

are they redeemed?

10:59

the20year

3 coins worth 1btc, 1 coin worth 1 btc, 8 coins worth 0.5btc = 8btc

11:00

how in the world do you get 19btc as value lol

11:00

afaik unredeemed

11:01

3x2 + 8x1.5 + 1x1 = 19(no idea what lelelel coins are worth)

11:01

alystair, by counting the resale value, not the face value

11:02

the20year

it says those 3 coins are 1btc each

11:02

face value, yep

11:02

and where did you get 1.5btc value from?

11:02

has any casascius coin ever been defective?

11:02

it's half

11:03

as in 0.5

11:03

not 1.5

11:03

lippoper: and the market is what it is, not what you think it is

11:03

lol

11:03

that's how you end up getting ripped off

11:03

a btc is a btc is a btc

11:03

see my previous statement

11:03

regardless of how much USD it's worth ;-)

11:03

go ahead and buy a silver 0.5 for 0.5btc

11:03

i dare ya

11:04

you nubbins

11:04

me nubbins, you lippoper

11:04

thestringpuller, i've seen a gold-plated 1btc silver with a heart-shaped gold defect

11:04

stop being such a nubbins

11:04

;-)

11:04

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5185 @ 0.00009055 = 0.4695 BTC [-] {4}

11:05

nubbins (n): one who speaks the truth

11:05

anyway, this guy's doing his auction all wrong

11:05

nubbins (v): to mess up details and facts

11:05

with opinions

11:05

wow

11:05

who the fuck wants to buy eight dupes from a reseller with a rating of 11?

11:05

hahah

11:05

i invited you to try purchasing an 0.5 casascius silver for 0.5btc

11:06

that's a horrible party invite

11:06

well, yes, because you can't

11:06

don't you have some 'nerds' to pick on lol

11:06

that's what i'm doing right now

11:06

its usually me

11:06

pick on KRS1

11:07

he'd rather do that than challenge me to a game of chess ..

11:07

<lippoper> lel things are worth what i think they're worth, not what they're actually worth!

11:07

truffles, you're too demanding an opponent ;p

11:07

ure the last person i would play non-timer

11:08

5 minute per move is terrible

11:08

the logs tell a different story

11:08

try 24 hours per move

11:08

we'll play over email

11:08

i used to play via SMS

11:08

games took days

11:08

well Boingo did wait 24hrs once lol

11:08

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4018 @ 0.00099392 = 3.9936 BTC [+]

11:09

id do inchat whenever ure ready

11:11

chat logs will tell me how long ure taking per move too

11:12

heh, check it

11:12

What should I do now?

11:12

Don't ship the item. We've completed the Payment Review and canceled the payment because it may not have been authorized by the PayPal account holder.

11:12

thought that guy was a bit too eager

11:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31067 @ 0.00099108 = 30.7899 BTC [-] {2}

11:15

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.617 = 1.234 BTC [+]

11:16

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.616 = 1.232 BTC [-]

11:17

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.616 BTC [-]

~ 18 minutes ~

11:35

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00099392 = 19.7293 BTC [+]

11:45

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35200 @ 0.00099485 = 35.0187 BTC [+] {2}

11:51

!t m s.mpoe

11:51

[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00087687 / 0.00096953 / 0.0009999 (1236088 shares, 1,198.44 BTC), 7D: 0.00083792 / 0.00087234 / 0.0009999 (6570762 shares, 5,731.99 BTC), 30D: 0.00062972 / 0.00087213 / 0.0009999 (26205358 shares, 22,854.72 BTC)

11:51

just not five digits huh

11:53

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61500001 = 1.23 BTC [-] {2}

11:54

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.615 = 1.23 BTC [-]

11:59

so close!

12:00

turns out dropping 24btc on openbsd was a great form of advertising

12:00

ars, el reg, slashdot, zdnet, etc all carried the story

12:00

r ppl smart enough for such maneuvers

12:01

only some credited bingo's blog ;)

12:01

iirc he was saying he got a lot of traffic

12:02

that was some cheap advertising

12:03

i don't doubt it, lotta readers saw those stories

12:03

!t m s.mg

12:03

[MPEX:S.MG] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00010001 / 0.00010069 / 0.000135 (30796 shares, 3.10 BTC), 30D: 0.00010001 / 0.0001061 / 0.00014 (53100 shares, 5.63 BTC)

12:03

any increases in rss feed subscriptions? twatter followers?

12:03

prolly

12:04

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00099495 = 10.7455 BTC [+]

12:05

the funniest part in all of this are, of course, the variously non-english speaking romanian doods who had figured they're like... you know... teh bitcoin jesus

12:05

(stuff happens in romania after a delay)

12:05

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73900 @ 0.0009953 = 73.5527 BTC [+] {5}

12:06

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/inside-the-secret-chinese-camps-curing-internet-addiction/story-fnjwnhzf-1226806932466

12:06

china taking the whole "you're grounded" thing to a whole new level

12:06

(mostly quoted for teh wtf pic)

12:06

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285259 = 0.2853 BTC [-] {4}

12:08

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/15/kitkat_text_trap_no_wrap/

12:08

(mostly linked for the headline)

12:08

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24660 @ 0.00099143 = 24.4487 BTC [-]

12:08

"Rap for KitKat in crap app wrap trap flap: Android 4.4 is 'meant to work like that'"

12:12

omg theregister speak!

~ 15 minutes ~

12:27

i've always had a soft spot for rhyming and alliteration in headlines

12:27

useful things in life ofc

12:27

nod

12:28

i always picture a room full of editors roaring with laughter and saying HAHAHA FUCK IT LET'S PUBLISH IT

12:33

and nobody reading it knows what the headlines mean...

12:36

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7380 @ 0.00099567 = 7.348 BTC [+] {2}

12:38

you need to draw a diagram sometimes to figure them out

12:39

Any body donate for Macbook pro I need only 2 BTC / I need it to develop my Android project / my e-mail vdchernikov@gmail.com / facebook.com/VitalyChernikov / bitcoin address 1v5dgomiYSkK21BurZ55VEuQRpmhpgvkz

12:40

I don't want to live on this planet anymore

12:40

will somebody please wake the mod ?

12:42

lo. funny thing is, ima write an article about exactly this.

12:42

lol

12:42

be about an hour.

12:42

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 152 @ 0.00617863 = 0.9392 BTC [+] {7}

12:42

i asked the fellow politely, to hush, in his mother tongue. no dice.

12:42

Did he even acknowledge it?

12:42

I hope he's just a scammer and he won't really buy a macbook

12:43

he did. said he would, anyway.

12:43

i imagine he's just trying this strange internet cube in original if inadequate ways.

12:43

you don't use macbooks to develop, you use macbooks in node.js/ruby on rails/etc. conferences or in starbucks

12:43

I am not a scammer, I real need

12:44

asciilifeform odds are you'll see him again, in that other capacity.

12:44

there's a progression at work.

12:44

VitalyChernikov, I suppose you currently have a computer, since you're here

12:44

phylogenesis retracing ontogenesis and all that.

12:44

its old and noisey pankkake!

12:45

truffles: http://25.media.tumblr.com/46a173809e32fca9622e036fd31b3948/tumblr_msmhafIwi41rpewjfo1_400.jpg

12:45

I blame mircea_popescu and his donation :P

12:45

i confess ;/

12:45

i wanted to ask why he came here

12:46

Vitaly what was it you needed

12:46

krs1 i like cage whats, i dont get it

12:46

from that movie he did?

12:46

i thinks

12:46

once upon a time, he was my fav actor of all time

12:48

oh sorry I need to put children into bed, i will be back

12:48

ya he's real good..u has new fav?

12:48

mircea_popescu: hard (but not impossible!) to cross-compile winblows trojans under mac os.

12:48

those that produce consistent good work maybe

12:49

like Dicaprio

12:50

Peoples, I simple asking help. You do not sistuation when you eant to work and you have no ability! I working and grow children it is both hard. I repeat that i need Macbook for my work.

12:51

VitalyChernikov how come u didnt make this plea in #bitcoin?

12:51

and what would be wrong with a linux box?

12:52

Sorry, last message was written with many mistakes because I was hurry.

12:53

idk who my fav actor is..guess i still like the ones who are too old now

12:53

wait, you have no ability and no job… but you want to write an android application "for your work"

12:53

Peoples, I simple asking help. You do not know sistuation when you want to work and you have no ability! I working and parallely grow children and it is both hard. I repeat that i need Macbook for my work.

12:53

tom hanks?

12:53

yep, rodney dangerfield, dan ankroyd, etc.

12:53

growing children

12:53

thanks

12:54

didnt those 2 die?

12:54

one did i think

12:54

VitalyChernikov u didnt answer my question !

12:54

Isn't there a submission form he should fill out?

12:55

i thought he gave up after avoiding the 1 hour per copypaste

12:55

VitalyChernikov: do you have a daughter? I'll buy her for 2 BTC

12:55

twizt

lol

12:56

I bid 2.3

12:56

pics

12:59

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 356 @ 0.00086966 = 0.3096 BTC [+]

13:02

http://trilema.com/2014/la-firma/ asciilifeform <

13:02

La firma pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

13:02

doesnt look english

13:02

that's okay, he speaks languages.

13:03

yea im sure he speaks broken x language :)

13:03

Vitaly grows children? Show me how this is done.

13:04

Must look into this.

13:04

how long does it take for an unverified transaction to show up in my wallet?

13:05

a few seconds unless something is wrong

13:05

someone said they sent me 45000 doges after I paid them with paypal

13:05

but nothing shown up yet... it's been like 20 minutes now

13:05

alystair a block is about ten minutes, but a wallet should show tx in the pool as unconfirmed

13:05

so... half an hour ?

13:06

o doge. that i have no idea.

13:06

oh oops, I'm talking in wrong room

13:06

doge's like a block per minute

13:06

there's a doge-assets ?

13:06

it's easy to resend them too; getrawtransaction <txid>; sendrawtransaction <theresult>

13:07

so ask him to resend it, or even, give you the raw tx so you can send it

~ 18 minutes ~

13:25

http://xkcd.com/1319/ amen

13:25

xkcd: Automation

13:26

sounds about right.

13:37

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30150 @ 0.00099497 = 29.9983 BTC [-]

~ 15 minutes ~

13:52

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.0029 = 0.1595 BTC [-] {2}

13:54

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 165 @ 0.0027701 = 0.4571 BTC [-]

13:55

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 236 @ 0.00275 = 0.649 BTC [-]

13:56

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00099498 = 12.5367 BTC [+] {2}

13:56

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00274 = 0.1233 BTC [-]

14:00

"something important happens when a previously privileged position in society suddenly sees incredibly demand that needs to be filled, using enormous quantities of manpower. that happened to programming computers about a decade ago, or maybe two. first, the people will no longer be super dedicated people, and they won't be as skilled or even as smart -- what was once dedication is replaced by greed and someti

↖

14:00

mes sheer need as the motivation to enter the field...."

14:00

(herr naggum. http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3140985758772364@naggum.no.html)

14:01

myeah.

14:02

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00597012 = 0.3463 BTC [-] {2}

14:02

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23350 @ 0.00099444 = 23.2202 BTC [-]

14:03

God. I hate Naggum. The ultimate troll/flamer. Just because he's dead, people start worshipping him now.

14:03

https://twitter.com/frolova_nina/status/425705073818095616

14:03

Twitter / frolova_nina: @Mircea_Popescu Your help is ...

14:03

i'm selling my interest in nina, taking bids.

14:03

deego i suspect stan worshipped him before he died.

14:03

funnily, i never once spoke with herr n. when he was alive

14:04

and sort of hated his guts

14:04

now that's interesting.

14:04

how come ?

14:04

i took the side of some of the people he was flaming (in my head)

14:04

because at the time i was quite irritated with commonlisp.

14:04

that;s always a good reason to like a person, neh ?

14:05

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.lisp/IXRNCJo_G3k

14:05

Google Groups

14:05

and https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/comp.emacs/FyjThnjJ6LU/N06te0FleAkJ

14:06

(example: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3182446271277745@naggum.net.html)

14:07

asciilifeform: Oh, I like lisp, but a complete asshole and a jerk is still a jerk. :)

14:07

i was a lurker of the worst degree - several years after the fact.

14:07

author of such gems as " do the world a huge favor and commit suicide tonight."

14:08

deego: it helps to know the context.

14:08

some of the people he dealt with really were living garbage of the most noxious sort.

14:08

ex: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3185391497019108@naggum.net.html

14:08

deego perhaps unbeknownst to you, you're in a pit where assholes and jerks are properly revered as the kings of all creation. which they are.

14:09

asciilifeform which brings to mind : redditard wisdom is now that "i edited" the niggers article, because rather than wrap their stupid heads around the fact they couldn't matte rless,

14:09

claiming the sun set in the east some time last month is a much easier solution.,

14:09

on reddit.

14:10

hm. kid at racetrack: 'damn those things are loud, and they stink.' old man: 'unbeknownst to you, you're in a pit where loud, stinking things are revered.' kid: goes home, smears shit on himself, yells 'vroom! vroom!'

14:10

gagaga

14:11

Any body donate for Macbook pro I need only 2 BTC / I need it to develop my Android project / My name is Vitaly Chernikov, i am 28 years/ my e-mail vdchernikov@gmail.com / facebook.com/VitalyChernikov / bitcoin address 1v5dgomiYSkK21BurZ55VEuQRpmhpgvkz

14:11

the sad part is that even naggum's idiots were livelier and more interesting than modern ones (that i know of)

14:12

kako is going to end up sending openbsd a bill.

14:13

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6311 @ 0.00099444 = 6.2759 BTC [-]

14:13

asciilifeform there is something otherworldly about the sack of shit that goes "i'll just sit here and pretend, no matter what"

14:14

much the same psychiatric aspects as the case of an ordinary spammer. who doesn't see the channel as a place with people, but as a receptacle

14:14

like a urinal

14:14

or, to be charitable, an altar

14:15

jesus, so much capitalisation drama in lisp

14:15

asciilifeform arguably, the libertard is pissing in his own mouth tho.

14:16

90% of the drama was in the form of A: 'standard is crap!' B: 'no it isn't, i love it' A: ok, how about this B: yeah, maybe this should've been different A: let's change it B: no, you'll break my satellite/aircraft carrier/jacuzzi

14:16

(standard being ANSI INCITS 226-1994)

14:17

perhaps. the way it reads to me is more like boys tring to come to terms with questions of hierarchy and submission in an extremely complex environment

14:17

it was exactly this

14:17

with the result that the work needed on average exceeds the work anyone's to put in

14:17

anyone' willing/able to put in i mean

14:18

welll... don't they play football in their spare time anymore, these people ? what do they do when they're 15 ?

14:19

plenty of args re: business, etc

14:19

http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3185359514853009@naggum.net.html

14:19

Re: LispWorks Pricing Information from Xanalys - Naggum cll archive

14:20

"the regulators are fully to blame for the inability of societies to value software properly..."

14:20

0.o

14:21

more re: hierarchy: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3242144155107453@naggum.no.html

14:21

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61500002 BTC [+]

14:21

but i'll stop here. anybody who wants these knows where to find them.

14:21

(xach has the whole thing, at least as far as usenet goes.)

14:21

" What you could do is take this back to the drawing board, declare yourself unfit to make technical decision because of too much personal involvement, and let other people find ways to reach all of your (technical) goals while breaking none of other people's goals and needs. "

14:21

i wonder if this ever happened.

14:22

doubtful.

14:23

so then what am i to think of someone who proposes someone else should do what has never happened.

14:23

maybe naggum should fart magical pie out of his ear that convinces princess diana to learn how to lisp.

14:23

Any body donate for Macbook pro I need only 2 BTC / I need it to develop my Android project / My name is Vitaly Chernikov, i am 28 years/ my e-mail vdchernikov@gmail.com / facebook.com/VitalyChernikov / bitcoin address 1v5dgomiYSkK21BurZ55VEuQRpmhpgvkz

14:23

lusers don't kill themselves at the behest of a fiery flame, either

14:24

but it doesn't hurt to suggest it politely.

14:24

some people may get the message.

14:24

ok, let's take the final portion. "reach all your goals w/o breaking other people's "needs" ?!

14:24

has THIS ever happened ?

14:25

naggum, in case this doesn't come across in his posts, did not want to popularize common lisp.

14:25

and frequently hammered people who mentioned having this goal.

14:26

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00099357 = 8.197 BTC [-]

14:26

" Each and every time someone in the Computer Science field has a Bright Idea, the world had better be prepared to adapt, because Here Comes Genius and everything everybody has done needs to be done differently from now on, because This Genius Knows Best."

14:26

pankkake i used to work at a place that did .net development, this one dev purchased his own high-end mac workstation and ran windows in a VM to do his coding

14:27

someone should write the naggumtropes website.

14:27

nubbins`: oh, I've seen similar horrible things

14:27

*sysadmin* running windows on a mac

14:27

he used TimeMachine for version control

14:27

lollll

14:27

i know several people, who will remain nameless, who do variations on this theme.

14:27

all the same, he never had any problems with it

14:28

VitalyChernikov: entertain us or get out. or at least sell your daugther

14:28

every now and then his windows vm got messed up and he'd just fire up a new one

14:28

nubbins`: this is SOP in crapware analysis

14:28

" I prefer a society based in the rule of law to groups of eager people with bright ideas who ignore everything that has gone before them." << we now have the definition of the old fart.

14:28

SOP for sharepoint development too

14:29

way too easy to fuck up your whole install

14:29

pankkake what, he's still here ?

14:29

yes, with the same message

14:31

if more people went to school and got internet,

14:31

more people would be here saying the same interesting thing

14:31

multiple times.

14:31

how could one not be a progressive ?

14:33

anyway, study material re winter and cars :

14:33

http://25.media.tumblr.com/d1814c467030c83e0988ff8e29761517/tumblr_mmjclqZgkA1rhd9f2o1_1280.jpg

14:34

I do not know what to do futher, how start developing and how redistribute my time. I only have time from 4 a.m. to 7 a.m before main job. And after job I there 7 p.m. to 11 p.m. I do home work.

14:35

There variants to resign from main job and start develops

14:35

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00099439 = 8.2534 BTC [+]

14:35

i dont see a time window for spamming -assets inthere'

14:37

if she turned you'd notice the wifi wifeplug

14:37

wifeplug?

14:38

yes. gfplug goes in teh front, wifeplug goes in the back.

14:38

it's really very complicated.

14:39

whole field, 'dildonics,' as i understand.

14:40

dildo-nix

14:40

they argue a lot about flavour, instead of case.

14:41

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5197 @ 0.00099357 = 5.1636 BTC [-]

14:42

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.04999999 = 0.5 BTC [-]

14:43

mircea_popescu is drunk I see

14:45

wait wut /

14:46

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/01/21/why-bitcoin-matters/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=1&

14:47

VitalyChernikov: what about replacing these fans in your machine?

14:48

and if it's still noisy due to hdd, teach ur wife to bear it

14:48

"A random spectator at a televised sports event held up a placard with a QR code and the text Send me Bitcoin! He received $25,000 in Bitcoin in the first 24 hours, all from people he had never met."

14:48

andreesseen is who backed coinbase for 25 million, the author of that article

14:48

and you people wonder where the beggars come from.

14:49

lol nice nick

14:49

blg well it's nice to see people are coming to terms with it.

14:49

from new york?

14:49

yeah Andreessen Horowitz is a very famous VC firm in the silicon valley

14:49

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 121 @ 0.04999999 = 6.05 BTC [-]

14:50

srsly ?

14:50

they're funding.... urbit.

14:50

yes

14:50

i have a friend who's company might get backed by them

14:50

jurov: It is any way not suitable carrying big PC to kitchen and back. And some times I may work at coworking office out off home

14:50

i live in silicon valley

14:50

;;ident AndreessenHorowitz

14:50

Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.

14:51

well, they got a ways to go yet.

14:51

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreessen_Horowitz#Exits lol

14:51

Andreessen Horowitz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

14:51

VitalyChernikov what have fans to do with kitchen? learn englich properly first

14:51

lol groupon

14:51

and lol instagram

14:52

teespring most recently

14:52

its learn england, jurov .

14:52

VitalyChernikov: why does it have to be a macbook?

14:52

lrn totly yea

14:52

cause macfag.

14:52

so why would your friend wish to associate himself with the groupon scammers ?

14:53

blg ^

14:53

what do you mean scammers?

14:53

Because on Macbook you can install both MacOs and Windows 8!

14:53

groupon was legit until their CEO ran it in to the groud

14:53

i mean people who make false statements to collect money from suckers, and then fail to deliver

14:53

you know... scammers.

14:53

mircea_popescu: people will do literally anything if they think it will set them free from work-prison.

14:53

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00279 = 0.279 BTC [+]

14:53

hahaha o i see, much like say what, skepsidyne ?

14:53

well andreessen exited way before all that

14:53

blg but they pushed it, didn't they ?

14:53

VitalyChernikov: if you can't fix noisy machine then you won't get a satoshi, i'm afraid

14:53

VitalyChernikov: both being terrible choices, especially since you pretend you want to write Android applications

14:54

i guess

14:54

how is groupon a scam

14:54

i've never used it

14:54

you pretend to have a job and a wife, yet spend your time begging for 2 BTC?

14:54

asciilifeform yeah, but it's a little ridiculous that they seem to somehow have constructed a pretend-world where they don't even have to consider what they're doing.

14:54

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.61500001 = 1.845 BTC [-] {2}

14:54

'the sleep of reason births monsters' or how did it go.

14:55

blg groupon is a scam in the manner the web start-up circus is a scam. make website with no utility, pretend huge customer base that doesn't exist or is bught, pretend huge growth that doesn't exist or is manufactured,

14:55

list the thing and split with the ipo proceeds.

14:55

oh hah

14:55

well groupon should have taken the 6 billion dollar offer from google

14:55

that was the mistake of a lifetime there

14:55

perhaps.

14:56

same with snapchat

14:56

3 billion from facebook

14:56

suckerberg is a douche i would have loved to see his face though

14:56

cat-in-the-bag trading may be great comedy, but it's not business.

15:00

in other news, http://cryptome.org/2014/01/spoiled-onions.pdf

15:00

lol

15:01

i have access to the #1 tor exit node

15:01

#1 in throughput i mean

15:01

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.04999999 = 10 BTC [-]

15:02

to be fair, this is really 'amateur hour'

15:02

as if it escapes anyone's attention that ssl-mitm is readily detectable.

15:03

(when lacking the root key, that is. the people who have the latter, however, needn't screw with tor; they diddle your packets wherever they like.)

15:03

"Visits to Wikipedia had previously risen steadily year-on-year for a decade. Towards the end of the 2012 this trend not only stalled, but went into an unprecedented decline."

15:03

i wish to officially take credit for this.

15:03

fu, retardopedia.

15:03

other explanation: wik. struck a deal with google to be removed from the pagerank engine

15:03

so people stopped spamming it

15:03

(for the most part)

15:03

and turns out most of the visitors were... spammers.

15:04

sure, sure.

15:04

coincidentally, i also blogged about what a pos it is, about on the same timeline

15:04

i still wish to take credit for it.

15:05

what alternative do you recommend for wikipedia

15:06

an education.

15:06

you're just upset because there is no Wikipedia article about the great Mircea Popescu

15:06

there is no possible alternative. no magic trick will make you be knowledgeable, other than actually being knowledgeable.

15:07

pankkake uh isn't there ?

15:07

i recall they wanted a pic and so i licensed some at some point

15:07

ie, gpl-released

15:07

hm i guess there isn't.

15:08

well, maybe if i take up soccer.

15:08

or become a pokémon

15:09

what's involved in becoming a pokemon ?

15:10

What i do?? I fucked!! I terrorizу chat instead start working!!

15:10

yes

15:11

CoinTerra miners: http://cointerra.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/IMG_1673.1.jpg

15:11

the people or the empty boxen ?

15:12

fanboxen

15:12

looks like the activeminer pics

15:12

s/activeminer/bfl

15:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00099586 = 34.5563 BTC [+] {4}

15:13

they're "tweaking boards" but no performance indication

15:13

s/ needs to be recursinve now

15:13

pankkake wouldn't it kick ass if the miners actually had non-planar boards

15:13

cause they got tweaked you see.

15:13

I have some non-planar boards

15:14

but it wasn't planned

15:14

haha

15:15

http://instantrimshot.com/ >.<

15:15

Welcome to Instant Rimshot

15:15

are the cointerra workers 15 or what?

15:16

foreground dude looks like rg

15:19

They could be same family too. "Hey kids, do you want a bigger allowance? Daddy needs help to build fanboxes. It's some sort of weird fetish porn. Some people get excited and throw money at you when you show them fanboxes."

15:23

needs more miners with fan leds

15:31

nanotube

mircea_popescu: nice work on openbsd :)

15:32

as per usual, i did none of the work,

15:32

i'm just taking all the credit.

15:32

nanotube

heh

15:32

hehe

15:39

hello everyone

15:40

hi

15:40

Uglux

hi

15:40

http://just-dice.blogspot.com/2014/01/no-refunds-no-exceptions.html

15:40

Just-News @ Just-Dice: NO REFUNDS -- NO EXCEPTIONS

15:41

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.615 = 1.845 BTC [-]

15:43

wat

15:43

surprise surprise.

15:43

Doog did a doge-dice site?

15:43

ya

15:43

doh!

15:43

what the...

15:43

yes; after all, it's the most serious altcoin to ever come

15:45

.....................

15:45

just wait until doge is 100$.

15:45

3 spans of the universe, tops.

15:47

pankkake look at that, these filthy bitbet scammers taking over the world.

15:48

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 24 @ 0.02410416 = 0.5785 BTC [-] {4}

15:48

how?

15:49

maybe I should have invested in bitbet after all…

15:49

how dare just-dice not refund people's losses!

15:49

this is the internet! on the package in which internet came, it clearly said it's an enjoyable experience.

15:50

funnily I'm still at a slight loss as an investor

15:50

the luser has already paid aol 30 bucks, he is E.N.T.I.T.L.E.D. to everything else now

15:50

what the fcuk

15:50

the internet failed by not having micropayments early

15:51

now every website is supposed to sustain itself by advertising

15:51

the internet failed by not having payment well sorted out BEFORE it allowed undegrads access.

15:51

lel

15:51

what degrees do you hold again mp?

15:51

this created 10-15 years of dead air during which every fuckwit ended up with delusions of equality with the class of people who rightfully had free internet everytthing

15:52

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.615 = 1.845 BTC [-]

15:52

dub http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2014#444346

15:53

but that's besides the point. i have no problem paying for shit.

15:53

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00099591 = 18.3247 BTC [+]

15:54

arts, impressive

15:54

not everyone can be smart enough to go into tech :D

15:55

tech is more about sucking the right dick

15:57

how so?

15:58

i was being sarcastic yo. i did physics before i did philosophy.

15:58

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02579999 = 0.1806 BTC [+] {2}

15:59

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.0241 = 0.482 BTC [-]

15:59

corporate life, even in engineering, is more about your network than education

16:00

dub tell us how you really feel

16:00

dem feels

16:03

tech as an intellectual pursuit has nothing to do with tech as a job.

16:03

true

16:04

jobs as organised by people who don't customarily use weaponry would necessarily degenerate in the equivalent of the female chimp flea picking fest.

16:04

nttawwt.

16:05

;;ud nttawwt

16:05

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=NTTAWWT | Not That There's Anything Wrong With That. (Origin: Seinfeld?)

16:05

Urban Dictionary: NTTAWWT

16:05

oh

16:06

ty ud

16:06

wow, i had just made it up

16:06

or so i thought.

16:06

I thought mp has keyboard tourettes

16:06

thougt it was a variation of "awww"

16:06

jesus one can't even be autistically clever anymore.

16:06

but that shorthand can be useful, as I'm often to lazy to say the full sentence

16:06

unpronounceable tho

16:07

1nttawwtplzdonateguise.

16:16

has anyone seen ukyo around recently?

16:16

try #scamtown

16:17

oh he's not there anymore?

16:17

;;seen ukyo

16:17

ukyo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 1 day, 3 hours, 42 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <Ukyo> thats been the promise all along VanCleef

16:17

try #bitfunder

16:17

did they cover in the end as promised or how did that end up ?

16:17

he's sometimes on #bitfunder or #weex

16:17

and they paid only 2% of that

16:18

the rest is "not accessible"

16:18

not accessible how?

16:18

meaning they dont have it.

16:18

even the 2% claims interface has bitcoind outages every now and then

16:19

ukyo always carefully avoids disclosing how

16:19

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7253 @ 0.0009927 = 7.2001 BTC [-] {2}

16:19

fascinating

16:19

its horrible

16:19

i'm owed 250 coins

16:19

that was stupid

16:19

i'm sorry to hear that man

16:19

thats a buttload of money

16:20

unfortunately it looks like its lawyer time

16:20

its enough moeny that i have no other choice

16:20

well at least you are on the right path, being here.

16:21

mgio, let me know if you do some moves, i can throw something in

16:21

last i heard he still cliams to plan on playing everyone back and even paying all back dividends on ukyo.loan bonds, but he hasn't said anything in a while now

16:21

jurov sad.

16:22

it's "only" 28btc in it for me

16:22

so you saved openbfd ?

16:22

yep :)

16:22

wd man.

16:22

openbfd eh

16:24

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999999 = 0.25 BTC [-]

16:28

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04999999 = 0.3 BTC [-]

16:35

assbot: http://www.xnxx.com/video3362155/ream_and_scream_giant_butt_plug

16:37

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00099177 = 14.2815 BTC [-] {2}

16:37

vial: sounds like a good summary of the ukyo situ

16:44

its very sad lol

16:49

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999999 = 0.25 BTC [-]

16:50

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04900102 = 0.147 BTC [-]

16:52

pLambert

is S.MPOE really worth a billion USD?

16:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00099183 = 2.2812 BTC [+]

16:53

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.04870022 = 2.435 BTC [-] {8}

16:54

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15978 @ 0.00099183 = 15.8475 BTC [+]

16:54

FakeVolumeBot

pLambert: yes!

16:54

is the usg really worth 10 trillion usd ?

16:55

pLambert

no, the USG is worth -10 trillion USD, they are in deep debt!

16:55

http://sonsofanarchy.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:87.98.146.72

16:55

User talk:87.98.146.72 - Sons of Anarchy

16:55

derp

16:55

[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 88 @ 0.00372 = 0.3274 BTC [-]

16:56

mircea_popescu: it's me

16:56

what's teh anarchy wikia thing ?

16:56

it's a TV series

16:56

I fixed a typo with that IP I guess

16:56

the stuff you do lol

16:57

http://31.media.tumblr.com/bc9e0bc308957cb49209be24aabc2489/tumblr_mk5bdwW3mv1rokzhio1_1280.jpg

16:57

related.

16:58

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18319 @ 0.00099211 = 18.1745 BTC [+] {2}

16:59

asciilifeform re the 30 minute thing : maybe time to include some nuclear power.

16:59

that way you can time even when offline. also good in space.

16:59

pocket nuclear power for beginners: a ten-second intro!

16:59

1) buy 'traser' key chain.

17:00

2) small photovoltaic cells, from pocket calculators.

17:00

3) you can just possibly power a pocket calculator.

17:00

http://depletedcranium.com/my-attempt-to-import-tritium-key-chains/

17:00

Depleted Cranium » Blog Archive » My Attempt to Import Tritium Key Chains

17:02

yet Am-241 pissing gamma from the ceiling is 100% legal.

17:03

no, it's legally required.

17:03

I have a few of those actually

17:03

tritium trinkets

17:03

tritium gun sights are also widely sold here.

17:03

I have one on my key chain, one in my backpack and 3 in a chain on my wall at home so I can be oriented when all lights are off

17:05

naturally, the solution re: a traser battery is that the buyer must supply his own.

17:05

just like the pipes sold across the street from where i live don't come with a bag of pot to smoke

17:06

what happens if you crush one of these ?

17:06

and inhale it?

17:07

probably similar to visiting Pripyat in terms of 'millideaths' (or whatever the fashionable name for this phenomenon was)

17:07

you will need a hammer and anvil.

17:07

incidentally, most of the us could produce radon gas by the bucket.

17:07

i wonder if radon works for this application

17:08

all of NYC, if i recall, is sitting on thorium ore.

17:09

radon: 4 d. half life?

17:09

let's not mix wow into this

17:09

uh

17:09

you'd get more damage from the glass shards than the gas

17:09

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 146 @ 0.00274035 = 0.4001 BTC [-] {2}

17:10

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999998 = 0.25 BTC [+]

17:11

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04999998 = 0.2 BTC [+] {2}

17:12

seems it's about half a curie's worth

17:12

suppose the truck carrying these falls off a bridge.

17:12

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.00274 = 0.148 BTC [-]

17:13

(generally, a ton of naturally occuring uranium is about 1/3 curie or so)

17:14

you can't even get thorium lantern mantles anymore :(

17:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6044 @ 0.00099735 = 6.028 BTC [+]

17:15

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04999998 = 0.15 BTC [+]

17:15

tritium, afaik, won't bio-accumulate

17:15

outside the body, it does exactly nothing (alpha emitter)

17:16

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00273001 = 0.1911 BTC [-]

17:17

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04999998 = 0.2 BTC [+]

17:19

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 223 @ 0.0027101 = 0.6044 BTC [-]

17:21

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.04999998 = 0.65 BTC [+]

17:22

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 251 @ 0.0027101 = 0.6802 BTC [-]

17:26

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 206 @ 0.0027101 = 0.5583 BTC [-]

17:27

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00270025 = 2.7003 BTC [-] {2}

17:27

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12025 @ 0.00099564 = 11.9726 BTC [-] {2}

17:27

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.04999998 = 2.5 BTC [+]

17:29

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04999998 = 0.7 BTC [+]

17:31

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 743 @ 0.0027002 = 2.0062 BTC [-]

17:32

MPOE is on fire!

17:33

who got insulted this time

17:42

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 120 @ 0.0008704 = 0.1044 BTC [+] {3}

17:43

wonder what's up with PETA

17:43

is cointerra shipping?

17:45

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426406.0

17:45

[PRE IPO] Looking for IPO - Attention MPOE MPEX MPOE-PR

17:46

diametric

lol...

17:46

I don't get it

17:46

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65600 @ 0.00099095 = 65.0063 BTC [-] {6}

17:46

he posted in the jimmothy hate fest thread, not sure if serious

17:47

I fucking hate the kind of thinking that went into that post

17:47

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00099085 = 8.8186 BTC [-]

17:47

"thinking"

17:48

well, it's so widespread that I need to call it something

17:48

"I have a random idea. It'll be great! I just need a bunch of people to actually do it now..."

17:48

muppetry is a good one i've adopted recently

17:50

Duffer1 100mn valuation ?

17:50

teh forum trollage is getting pretty good.

17:50

oh i dunno prolly

17:50

rattaTATpewpew

san francisco kinda sucks

17:50

i got about tree fiddy on it

17:51

copumpkin dontcha wanna be on the board ?

17:51

thats moar like, I had an idea, here take it

17:51

lol

17:51

totally man

17:51

let me throw a few million after it too

17:52

after all, it'll be worth $100m or more, it's a great investment

17:52

i had a brilliant idea yesterday

17:52

the problem is... i had it between drinks and tits

17:52

and now i don't remember it.

17:52

I do that all the time

17:52

yes dude wants to list on mpex http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg4652318#msg4652318

17:53

OMG this will change everything I should write it down before I go to slee.. zzz

17:54

it's more a case of "am i going to say "honey wait just a second i need to jot some words down" and look like a dork or am i going to remember it when i'm done with her ?"

17:54

one's vanity tends to flatter themselves.

17:54

dictate to one of the 3

17:54

yeah the other one is this is too important to forget.. no wai I'll forget this!

17:54

i write faster than i speak

17:55

lol

17:55

mircea_popescu: he asked for MPOE-PR

17:55

time for a smackdown

17:55

:P

17:56

whoa that thread

17:57

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg4646882#msg4646882 i'm with kako

17:57

[Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?

17:57

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00099085 = 22.096 BTC [-]

17:57

ya asking for money from you in the same thread he calls you a "die hard racist" lol

17:58

this thread has cheered me up a lot

17:58

the funny thing is that if a bunch of oldtimers whom we won't name didn't think themselves smarter than me back in 2011, and said no to teh pirate guy when i said no to teh pirate guy,

17:58

there'd have been no pirate guy in 2011.

17:58

lol

17:58

arguably the difficulty exponential has washed all that into irrelevance, but anyway.

17:59

and i lost count on mnw, is the guy meanwhile scammy or unscammy ?

17:59

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00597012 = 0.1194 BTC [-]

17:59

mircea_popescu: yay, you're talking about me XD

18:00

although amusingly I lost more to butterfly labs than I did to pirateat40

18:00

lmao.

18:00

Azelphur i'm talkin' about the lot o yuz, but hey. in another year tops it'll be more like good around-the-fire stories

18:01

haha, I still tell it like a good around the fire story

18:01

between BFL and Pirate, 650 BTC down the drain

18:01

so you saved like thirty or so openbsds.

18:01

good for you.

18:02

xD

18:02

did you forget the other great paradigm of the gen-e(ntitled)? Its not crime if I'm on prozac

18:02

dub poor stormy.

18:02

on the bright side, I'm sitting on ~110 BTC in coin and one massive investment :p

18:02

or the MNW defence

18:03

baring in mind I started off broke and in my parents attic, I can't complain.

18:04

you want a fire story?

18:04

i drive 500 btc car.

18:04

Azelphur baring is what chicks do to their tits.

18:04

kakobrekla: nice, I can't beat that, although I do have a 5 BTC doorbell.

18:04

bearing is what you to to said chicks once you start supporting their body weight.

18:04

"nude grammar with mp", i should publish that.

18:05

xD

18:05

kakobrekla 1990s honda civic? :P

18:05

a tad newer.

18:05

2001 honda civic?

18:05

from back when I was trading I have some hilarious stuff from customers

18:05

like a ~35BTC Shaving kit

18:06

oo DE only way to shave

18:06

lol whats with the honda

18:06

desert eagle?

18:06

xD

18:06

dual edge :P

18:06

r/wicked_edge

18:06

my razerblade has 4 edges

18:06

used at he same time.

18:06

probably the most valuable reddit ever

18:06

:V

18:07

real men wear beards

18:08

and the neck?

18:08

yes, they have one.

18:08

i'm curious which car you got for 500 kako

18:09

I hope it was a Fiat!

18:09

lmao

18:09

Duffer1 vw golf

18:09

oh you euros and your tiny ass cars wtf

18:09

german qualitat

18:10

more like VW golf cart

18:10

hahaha

18:10

o that was good

18:11

Last 20 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1563392/plain/)

18:11

!b 20

18:11

shit happens.

18:12

it's two cycle right ?

18:12

:p

18:12

i hear vw got its start in business by making window wiper engines for cadillac

18:12

is this true ?

18:13

apparently reddit has decided mpex fee is now 50 btc ? shouldn't i at least be notified ?!

18:13

make it 100

18:13

hey dunno, im the dumb one here apparently.

18:13

MAX_INT

18:14

MININUM

18:14

haha

18:14

must be dumb, you couldnt pay me 500btc to take a vw golf

18:14

yes, we established taht already

18:14

yes we did

18:14

you have to step over me now?

18:14

should i be making squeeking noise?

18:15

mircea_popescu: I'm curious, what do you think about all this chatter of $10k by the end of the year? XD

18:15

no, when it breaks down you can blow me though

18:15

Azelphur well there's a bet

18:15

actually some of those golfs look pretty sharp

18:15

with facebook and others jumping on board, I think it could happen o.O

18:15

see the thing is, its cheaper to fix golf here than your mazda

18:15

"Why would a stock want to list on mpex for 30btc vs another exchange for much less?"

18:15

such epic inquiries.

18:16

like... you know, they could list on the nyse

18:16

'why buy ice cream? i can get liquid shit for much less'

18:16

any anyway, golf is like a tank, it doesnt like to break

18:16

'and freeze in my freezer'

18:16

mircea_popescu: btw, do you have to pay 30 BTC to list on top of the registration fee? or is it just the registration fee

18:16

i hear it's "buy niderauer an eggplant calzone these days,

18:16

and you're all set.

18:17

I hear the NYSE is accepting scams

18:17

asciilifeform: alaskan pipeline?

18:17

Azelphur well you gotta have an account to list is all.

18:17

cool

18:17

;;ud alaskan pipeline

18:17

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=alaskan%20pipeline | n: the act of pooping in to a condom, freezing the rubber overnight, then inserting it in to ones anus. Invented at the University of Iowa by Brian...

18:17

Urban Dictionary: alaskan pipeline

18:17

for all i care, you can go through a specialist investment banker.

18:17

not that any exist

18:17

but if legitimate stuff came along that legitimately couldn't afford it, im sure the service would pop.

18:21

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00099714 = 27.5211 BTC [+] {3}

18:24

will eventually happen

18:25

has MPOE hit 0.001 yet?

18:28

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [+]

18:28

not yet.

18:30

err, I think you have a bug

18:31

on the mpex depth table

18:31

18`446`744`073`709`502`4640.00099085

18:31

mircea_popescu: ^ :)

18:32

(happens to be awfully close to 2^64)

18:32

proxies being hammeredf to all shit

18:33

if I were to guess, someone convinced mpex to go negative on an unsigned 64-bit integer

18:33

that integer overflow

18:33

ddos?

18:33

fake volume bot bug

18:33

hehe

18:33

seems like a good time to get a good sell :

18:34

:P

18:34

too bad that wasn't a marker order

18:34

lol

18:34

I don't get this proxy thing, is there no central authority in mpex trading?

18:35

pankkake, must be

18:35

pankkake there is.

18:36

Apocalyptic not really, what happens is that a whole shitload of 1s get tacked on to the actual order

18:36

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12220 @ 0.00099085 = 12.1082 BTC [-]

18:36

so it ends up desplayed as gazilionty-whateveritwas

18:36

is that someone taking advantage of it just now?

18:36

copumpkin actual order was for like 15k

18:37

so there are orders that shouldn't be there? how?!

18:37

was it malicious or a legit bug?

18:37

in some circumstances a certain proxy may end up misstating an order in that way.

18:38

it has to do with what happens once it loses connection but doesn't yet know it has.

18:39

fixing this has proven itself the most challenging one thing in the history of the exchange so far.

18:40

that's the thing, I can't wrap my head about how it is designed :)

18:40

but anyway, heavy load favours it because it strains connections and so disconnects become more likely

18:40

what about using GUIDs?

18:41

to do what with them ?

18:41

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9184 @ 0.00099083 = 9.0998 BTC [-] {2}

18:41

you submit an order with a GUID so you don't end up with duplicates

18:42

but that accounts for my idea how how things work

18:42

what duplicates tho ?

18:42

I thought it was the same order multiple times

18:43

nah, the order is say buy 5 at 15. the engine says so, the proxy ends up with the idea the order is 99999995 at 15.

18:43

lol, but why :|

18:43

because complicated.

18:43

because your face

18:43

because it hates me

18:44

because two cans and a string!

18:44

because wet noodle.

18:51

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426352.0 led me to http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Mutualwealth-Mutualweal-t433169.html&mode=linear

18:51

this is a forum dedicated to ponzi scams?!

18:52

what in the fuck

18:52

High Frequency Trading with BitCoin

18:53

there are fora dedicated to spamming.

18:54

but not forums dedicated to being spammed

19:04

oh man check this out: https://www.cryptory.com/?id=586323

19:04

i don't even

19:05

Cryptory System offers our customers the ability to profitably dispose of their capital

19:05

hey let me help with that

19:05

i know some great ways to dispose of capital

19:06

omg the audio

19:06

i'm getting dizzy

19:06

pankkake sure there are.

19:07

don't loophole what I meant

19:07

I wonder if that video is some sort of template

19:14

http://videojac.com/ yup, those services exist. videojaculation

19:14

Videojac.com | Create professional marketing videos online with our video templates & online video e

19:15

oh my god there are so many

19:16

when do we get 'Cryptorium' ?

19:16

monks sit chained to desks hashing

19:21

pankkake you likely don't understand the drive of people from novosibirsk to mogadishu to be businessmen.

19:23

for every dorky white kid idly discussing "sexism in IT" there are at least a hundred olive kids willing to eat their own right arm to be in it.

19:23

now if you could actually achieve something by eating right arm...

19:24

myeah.

19:30

for every dorky white kid discussing sexism in it there's 1/10th of a white kid working harder smarter and faster to actually do something

19:31

if thaty.

19:31

it's easy, when surrounded mostly by other fat lazy westerners that have long forgotten how to even passibly pretend like they're trying

19:31

what trying really looks like.

19:31

where my welfare at

19:31

to forget what*

19:31

funny thing is, I probably did more against sexism in IT than these pretend sexism figthers

19:32

I worked with women and didn't give them any special treatment

19:32

i once made a woman a sandwich.

19:32

but if you make her a sandwich

19:32

hahaha

19:32

also, some of my best friends are women.

19:32

how will she know how to make sandwiches?

~ 40 minutes ~

20:13

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02538 = 0.1269 BTC [-] {2}

20:17

women make great friends until they get jealous.

20:22

men get jealous too

20:23

yes, and it's worse. at least women you can get both in bet and it'll melt the j's.

20:23

s/bet/bed

20:27

am I the only person around here who doesn't have women problems? XD

20:27

professional deformation mp?

20:29

lol

20:29

-assets be havin girl problems Azelphur feel bad for us son, he had pirate problems but a bitch aint one

20:29

indeed

20:29

lmao

20:29

wait, azelphur got a gf nao ?

20:29

bitcoins can work miracles!

20:30

mircea_popescu: indeed \o/

20:30

mircea_popescu: not only that, programmer with a degree and various other supersmart things.

20:30

#winning

20:30

can she bake?

20:30

my girl got 3 degrees but can't make a sandwich

20:30

she can, she bakes cookies :o

20:30

dub safe to say she's not got any degree of sandwich then ?

20:31

well shes got me and I sandwich like a boss

20:31

lol

20:31

you probably got shit bread where you live

20:31

so you can't sandwichboss

20:31

marry a chemist, those can cook.

20:31

asciilifeform food dood. not meth.

20:31

speaking of shit bread http://food52.com/recipes/25854-soft-rye-pretzels

20:31

asciilifeform: girlfriend is a chemist, can confirm

20:32

tell her irc says she's only after your moneyz.

20:32

haha

20:32

made no mention of my money before I knew her for a month

20:33

:)

20:35

did you fuck her in the ass before that?

20:36

sorry for asking late, had to get some food when i saw shit bread

20:36

lmao

20:36

kako's lucky diet.

20:37

taking macro to the next level

20:38

xD

20:38

herd you like to shit so I put some shit in your food so you can shit shit while you shit

20:40

:o

20:48

the phun continues: http://cryptome.org/2014/01/nsa-rep-dirt.htm

20:52

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04999998 = 0.3 BTC [+]

20:56

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00279 = 0.12 BTC [+]

20:56

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [+]

21:05

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00611371 = 0.2262 BTC [+] {2}

21:12

.d

21:12

1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 470 blocks | Estimated Change: 19.9111% in 2d 14h 43m 9s

21:13

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00099768 = 10.2262 BTC [+]

21:15

someone had better push MPOE over 0.001

21:18

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15024 @ 0.00009002 = 1.3525 BTC [-] {4}

21:20

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74300 @ 0.00099333 = 73.8044 BTC [-] {2}

21:20

big sale!

21:21

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32750 @ 0.00099121 = 32.4621 BTC [-] {2}

21:23

silly china

21:25

these big huawei packetmanglers have a timer to tell you when to check air filters then reset it with 'reset dustproof'

21:26

alarm reads 'The air filter is failed, Maybe it is not cleaned as scheduled. '

21:29

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64799969 BTC [+]

21:31

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 29 @ 0.02569999 = 0.7453 BTC [+] {2}

21:32

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999998 = 0.25 BTC [+]

21:32

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.648 BTC [+]

21:32

"I suppose you're right. It's not a scam as such, because it's all out in the open and delivers exactly what it promises."

21:33

not a scam AS SUCH.

21:33

i see that forum in a whole different way now

21:36

dentist = scam. not a scam AS SUCH, in the sense that it does fix your money but a) you have to make appointments and they charge if you cancel them without notice and b) it costs money.

21:36

voodoo specialist = doctor aaaaa++++ would use again.

21:37

not in the sense that he fixes your teeth, but very good service.

21:37

lol

21:38

a very good service indeed

21:38

im curious how'll the world look once the small govt people get their way and all those guys get to make actual decisions for themselves and have to live with the results.

21:39

probably a lot of performance art in unexpected places.

21:39

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00099069 = 17.0399 BTC [-] {2}

21:39

irc, for example

21:40

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 54 @ 0.04999998 = 2.7 BTC [+]

21:41

meh i wouldn't trust small govt politicians to have a clue any more than big govt politicians

21:42

what they tell you they want to do is always different than what they a) try to deliver b) are capable of delivering

21:42

except the american tea party, they're pretty straight up about their incompetence

21:43

well except that small government in this scenario is more like "dude who has wrassled himself up control of the local area and isn't carrying goldbrickers"

21:46

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.64799969 = 1.296 BTC [-]

21:48

;;ud goldbrickers

21:48

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goldbricker | Someone who cheats at completing a task, duty, or job. To cheat; swindle.

21:48

Urban Dictionary: goldbricker

21:49

internet == such learning

22:00

when i die, please eat me.

22:08

Any of you invested in mintspare?

22:08

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 400 @ 0.000878 = 0.3512 BTC [+]

22:09

What the fuck is mintspare?

22:09

dear god i hope not

22:09

Duffer1 the idea was more that letting people out of the straightjacket will result in a lot of idiots impaled on telegraph poles

22:10

cell phone turn-in for bitcoins

22:10

i'm just trying to find someone who is and ask why

22:10

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00099429 = 11.5835 BTC [+]

22:11

why seek advice from idiots?

22:11

i'm curious of their logic

22:11

'cell phone turn-in' ? is this like the 'turn-ins' american police stations have for firearms?

22:11

ohh

22:11

'don't trust your heirs with your dangerous phone? turn it in for a penny'

22:11

nah they'll buy your old gear, fix it/whipe it, sell it

22:12

all you have to do is pay them 100% of your btc and if you're lucky, and everything goes well, and they succeed, you'll get 20% back

22:12

how much for my StarTAC

22:13

How To Invest

22:13

Send BTC To This Address: 1NMgBp346DpMNR86ktuDWmtMruqXT4qVmM

22:13

sounds legit.

22:13

it gives me hope for our 2nd round of funding via HL, seeing as how successful SFI has been, and to a lesser extent MS, but i'm curious if the bigger money will follow us

22:13

so usually, you pay people to take away old tech gear

22:14

Their services pays you to trade it in, they have some sort of resell contract

22:14

14 btc to that address. incredible

22:14

At a local mall, they have this machine you stick old cell phones in, and it gives you cash for them

22:14

Their service is bullshit then

22:14

dub was that the first phone to open up ?

22:14

may have been the first clamshell yeah

22:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00099052 = 14.1644 BTC [-] {2}

22:14

Personally, my opinion is that it's a low intelligence service

22:15

how much for my ТАН-5?

22:15

i don't believe it was the first, but it was certainly the most popular

22:15

Sure, plenty of people utilize those services, but they're not the bitcoin crowd, which in my opinion is a bit more intelligent

22:15

retarded fucking idea, clamshell.

22:15

http://museum-ic.ru/content/telefon-tan-5

22:15

"let's make phones more like make-up sets"

22:15

Nice

22:15

they were pretty cool, smaller than several phones I had after that

22:16

how about one of t hose old soviet radio to telephone rigs, the car based ones from the 50s

22:16

asciilifeform that may be a coupla bucks if you find the right ny decorator

22:16

it

22:16

s not just the bakelite

22:16

phone should rrrrring damn it not make bleating noises.

22:18

http://www.latrecut.ro/ << romanian site dedicated to old romanian commie shit.

22:18

apparently everyone has these

22:19

"what was before, the egg or the chicken ? before there was plenty." lol

22:19

commodore-64 tape drive? not very commie, that

22:19

I really wish i could get a few connex boxes of old 60s-70s crap from Romania and export it here

22:19

When teh USSR fell , all sorts of military surplus places popped up selling extraordinarily fun stuff here. If you could do that with old miltiary gear (Boots, clothes, tents, ponchos, ect) you could make a killin

22:20

i have yet to meet an american that doesn't enjoy a good army surplus store

22:20

most popular old-regime romanian item here in the u.s. is: their kalashnikov clone.

22:20

twasn't a clone

22:20

Yeah, and they're extraordinarily hard to get as of last year, the prices quadroupled

22:20

they stole the original designs.

22:21

who didn't. there is even at least one american copy.

22:21

Eh , the USSR from my understanding helped them set up the fabrication process, even if kalashnikov wasn't happy

22:21

There are 4-5 places in the US now producing AKs

22:21

Airtronics is the government provider that has just about cloned the russian AK process to make clandestine guns

22:22

in u.s. there is an ancient law regarding firearms being required to have X locally-made parts

22:22

Yeah, R922 :(

22:22

so they cut things off and re-fit them

22:22

Depends, some of them they just send over missing parts then add the US compliance parts

22:22

pre-1872 protectionism or what ?

22:22

*Some* of the US parts are fantastic

22:23

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 98 @ 0.00613864 = 0.6016 BTC [+] {2}

22:23

my understanding is that if it weren't for this, the last american machine shop would go broke.

22:23

I don't know, US machine shops are now able to produce the AR15/M16 at some extraordinarily low prices, even cheaper than Norinco in China can produce their own clones

22:24

i imagine most of the operating cost of such a shop is bureaucracy-based, rather than actual work

22:24

Correct

22:24

forms in triplicate, etc.

22:24

We're almost done with our process for litecoin rigs, and our cost is going to be fantastic

22:25

We took a bid from another machine shop, at 5-6 times higher than what we can do it in-house for

22:25

why does a litecoin-anything need to be machined?

22:25

is that from benny?

22:25

or is this an M16 and ltc miner combo

22:25

Yeah

22:25

a gun that mines litecoin?

22:25

He's actually not touching the fab process, for the most part I am in charge of it

22:26

asciilifeform: it's going to be a rig sort of like openrig, but our own desig

22:26

*design

22:26

openrig?

22:26

Openrig, for GPU miners

22:26

should see if you can get him to poke Deprived out of hiding

22:26

it's an aluminum frame for people who want to easily mount multiple GPUs on a system

22:27

but anyone can go to hardware store and buy aluminum window frames. i did this myself not long ago

22:27

(nothing to do with mining)

22:27

a saw, a spot welder...

22:27

Sure

22:27

for a one stop scrypt mining shop though it's a good "shelf item"

22:27

like powered risers

22:27

But if there's demand, and he has the contacts to sell, he might as well do it

22:28

I'd suggest most gpu miners are too stupid to do a sawing motion

22:28

enlighten me (a savage) - is this really a seriously lucrative affair?

22:28

The powered risers he has now are the only ones on the market with their features. He has a guy now in shenzen going to factories to review products

22:28

benny's company?

22:28

thats like back and then forth and back again, then forth again, how to remember all these steps

22:28

my understanding was that ltc is mined primarily via botnet at this point.

22:28

not anymore

22:28

It was when it was profitable, now quark is big for botnets. There's too many GPUs out there displacing CPU miners

22:29

gpu botnet

22:29

I'm not aware of any good gpu botnets out there

22:29

At least of substantial size

22:29

According to benny, he personally knows 2 or 3 guys that have their own farms that are in excess of 1GH

22:30

i can't say that i've collected every known sample, but virtually all crap artists are using some variant of gpu-capable miner

22:30

isn't the buy-a-hash farm itself quite sizable?

22:30

usually with very minimal modification

22:30

Not enough, he's been dealing with rolling out more systems.

22:30

The big thing is the fact that he's gonna be getting ASICs soon for the farm

22:30

So his scalability is going to go crazy soon

22:31

well that assumes alpha-tec is legit

22:31

he's not dealing with alpha-tec

22:31

oh?

22:31

From what he's seen, alpha-tec is almost a guaranteed scam

22:31

oh asic i thought you meant scrypt 'asic'

22:31

and he thinks he can get his own asic to market a month ahead of them

22:31

I am

22:31

interesting

22:32

i still don't understand why a fellow with an scrypt asic would bother to tell anyone about it.

22:32

much less give it to another

22:32

He's already had 2 or 3 of his own runs of sha-256 asics, and from what he can tell, the scrypt process isn't significantly different

22:32

i didn't even know he was developing either

22:33

1GH for, say, litecoin is... 2% of the current total net hash?

22:33

are you brothers or roomates?

22:33

build 25 of them and keep in your basement.

22:34

('51' attack is exercise for alert reader)

22:35

he isn't personally, but his contacts have some insane stuff on the horizon. And he has enough money to throw around to fund some good stuff

22:35

he's under NDA on the details of most of the sha-256/scrypt stuff, but it's enough to scare just about every miner

22:35

isee

22:35

every gpu miner ya

22:36

not just the gpu guys, but the sha-256 stuff that's gonna be released in q2 and q3

22:36

TIL learned gpu mining was still profitable?

22:36

even cpu mining is profitable if you're a spammer

22:36

He's very profitable, will be even more so if he goes to industrial electricity

22:36

for some shitcoin or another, praps I should turn some shit back on

22:36

he's mining doges right now

22:36

or he was as of 5pm when I left

22:37

would be interesting if the main use of spiffy miner collections becomes: destruction of altcoins

22:37

zap one, move on to the next

22:38

that can be done

22:38

I remember when freicoin got fried

22:38

they had to pay someone to come in and fix it :D

22:38

likely good money to be made selling the capability to Luke-Jr

22:38

if it can, stands to reason it will

22:38

hehe

22:38

and how do you 'fix' a 51%'d chain?

22:38

other than by giving up in disgust

22:38

depends if there were successful double-spends

22:39

the big attack that worked so well was increasing the difficulty by an immense amount, then dropping the hash rate

22:39

IE from say 10k difficulty to 1m difficulty, when there are only enough miners to support the 10k

22:39

dub pretty much the only people that'd care'd be the nucleus of original shills.

22:39

and as these things are run, usually they got no actual cash.

22:39

'nice altchain you got there. i'd be a shame if it were to have problems.'

22:40

you';d make more hussling teenagers for lunch money.

22:40

it isn't profitable

22:40

just good for personal vandettas

22:41

the20year2 weren't you into real estate ?

22:41

that'd be the thing, selling altchain protection

22:41

dubthedon

22:41

tards would probably buy it too

22:41

you could try selling the secret of what days the doomsday machine will be turned on/off.

22:41

I am, yes mircea_popescu

22:42

asciilifeform sounding more and more like eve online.

22:42

need a house?

22:43

no, i was just trying to reconcile all the ltc talk

22:43

mircea_popescu: you did bring up idiots being released from their straight jackets. so the next question is, what sharp tools to give them

22:43

in ohio? nothx

22:43

What's wrong with Ohio?

22:43

whats right with ohio

22:44

1. its in america

22:44

nuff said

22:44

Decreasing unemployment, increasing property prices, relatively stable pricing over the past 20 years even when you include the bubble, relatively low vacancy

22:44

;;later tell bingoboingo http://nextshark.com/10-crazy-things-you-can-now-use-bitcoins-for/ check out kiddos discovering boobs in 2014.

22:44

The operation succeeded.

22:44

2. it's a little hard to move it to a reasonable place

22:45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6B3vYuzU4k

22:45

RumbleRail: Axel F [light] - YouTube

22:45

i dunno why people hate ohio, it's like the ukraine of the us.

22:45

pretty much hottest chicks source.

22:46

also potatos

22:46

no, that's idaho.

22:46

$35,000 house producing $700+/mo in rent isn't bad in my eyes

22:46

jesus really?

22:46

yes

22:46

35k for a place you can live in

22:46

wisconsin cheez, idaho potatoes and ohio tuna.

22:46

dub: get a nice house in detroit

22:47

for way less (if you pay back taxes and such)

22:47

I should sell my house and buy 30 in 'murica

22:47

copumpkin better yet, start a low rent boarding house in detroit.

22:47

good idea!

22:47

man, I'm gonna get rich

22:48

Yeah, $35k that's livable

22:48

35k doesnt buy a carpark in my city

22:48

(srsly)

22:48

dub so move to a better city.

22:48

The first property we bought was for $26k, 2,000sf, 5bed 2 bath

22:48

it is the best city tho

22:49

Manchester?

22:49

lolwat

22:49

that's what your info is showing

22:49

have you been to manchester?

22:49

its a shithole

22:49

no

22:49

haven't been outside the US

22:49

ich möchte shieße! ich möchte ein eisbär sein!

22:50

manchester is one of the few places in the world to have been a shithole its entire history

22:50

from textile onwards, not even la managed this one.

22:50

yep

22:50

the beatles were shat out there

22:50

brixton boys reformatory

22:51

they were from liverpool, or is that the same area?

22:51

they'll stick a bit of metal in your arse

22:51

the20year2: thats the server im (randomly) connected to

22:51

l2irc

22:51

mod6 notrly, esp if you ask the locals.

22:52

i'd love to stab a knife in one of them and fuck the opening it leaves.. stab them right in the kidney and cum in the wound

22:52

like a real bloody twinkie

22:52

hostle much?

22:53

i do yes

22:53

one of the beatles?

22:53

i like the south american hostels

22:53

why are we talking about the beatles? aren't they dead now?

22:53

you'd be doing mccartney a favor

22:53

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles

22:53

The Beatles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

22:54

^^ says they were from liverpool & formed in liverpool

22:54

he's getting fuck by his ex in a similar fashion

22:54

i still can't stand them

22:54

(For the most part)

22:54

fucked*

22:54

Ringo & Paul are still alive.

22:54

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6000 @ 0.00009001 = 0.5401 BTC [-] {3}

22:54

the rent for my 20m^2 consulting rathole near dc would buy a 4-story office building in baltimore.

22:55

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173316.msg4565876#msg4565876

22:55

Cloudhashing ASIC mining contracts, UK LTD company - Now Mining & Paying Bitcoin

22:55

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00099188 = 21.4246 BTC [+] {3}

22:55

in bmore?

22:55

they pay you to buy a house in bmore

22:55

anyway, yeah, heard liverpool was a dump tho

22:56

so basically what's this cloudhash thing, "give us btc upfront, get hash over time" ?

22:56

liverpool is a dump

22:56

foucist

the20year2: hey, you're in here!

22:57

safe to say, england is a dump

22:57

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 12951 @ 0.00008915 = 1.1546 BTC [-] {2}

22:57

pretty much what england itself thinks, at this point.

22:58

they would say, and tend never to stop saying inmy experience, that its a dumping ground for islam

22:58

peta mine is worse, it's like a pmb + cloud hash solution that gets "invostocustomers" the worse part of both

22:59

"The University of Cumbria in northwest England has become the first public university in the world to experiment with accepting bitcoin as tuition payment. It follows a similar move made by a private university in Cyprus at the end of last year."

22:59

this "first in the world" thing has come to its ultimate conclusion.

22:59

a boy and a girl somewhere are about to kiss, for the first time in the history of the world.

22:59

this follows in the mouthsteps of literally everyone before them up to this point.

23:00

i have my 666 shirt on

23:03

grats

23:04

so china is pretty much gonna blow first.

23:04

foucist: yes?

23:05

this entire "is it eu or us" thing dragged on for too long

23:05

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8089 @ 0.00099624 = 8.0586 BTC [+] {2}

23:05

blow?

23:06

some guy topticked the s&p @ 1929 lol. but yea, cn looks like its gonna blow its top

23:06

I think I've been saying that a while now mp

23:06

their cds over 100 points again, after just having had a massive liquidity drop

23:06

dub yeah

23:06

you need to give me money foucist

23:07

mircea_popescu: who's bonds went up 100 points?

23:09

chinese govt

23:09

oh wow, didn't know that

23:09

i didn't even realize they issued bonds

23:10

cds are default swaps

23:10

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00099768 = 24.8422 BTC [+] {2}

23:10

heres that thing: http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/01/120140117_ICAP6.jpg

23:11

http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/CNCD5/

23:11

China CDS 5-Yr - CNCD5

23:11

mod6: what does the chart represent?

23:11

and the rest: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-17/terrifying-technicals-chartist-predicts-anti-fed-revulsion-and-plunge-sp-450

23:12

mod6 that's actually outdated. it closed 138 +16. which... you know, O.O

23:12

just some reading of tealeaves that was posted onto zh.

23:13

So another ~14% increase?

23:13

might even lurch on open.

23:13

From my limited understanding, the increase of bond rates to market rates would be the beginning of the end

23:13

mp: yeah. this was a few days back

23:13

One of the reasons being a market finance of massive US debt, which would be completely unsustainable

23:14

cds are swaps not bonds.

23:14

chinese govt bonds don't even trade on the open mkt

23:14

who trades them?

23:15

bots

23:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00099035 = 10.6463 BTC [-] {2}

23:17

lol bloomberg doesn't list it anymore ?! wtf is this

23:17

http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/CCHIN1U5

23:17

Symbol Lookup - Bloomberg

23:19

they removed it

23:19

http://www.stockq.org/index/CCHIN1U5.php

23:19

http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/CNCD5

anyway, pretty much the only reason it's not hyperbolic right now is that the chinese basically don't allow leverage in that market.

23:22

Uglux_

23:22

China CDS 5-Yr - CNCD5

23:23

Uglux_

woops

23:30

i don't follow foreign markets

23:31

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00099035 = 4.8032 BTC [-]

23:33

but i'm a little bit interested in BOLSA

23:44

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00098995 = 2.9204 BTC [-] {2}

23:56

;;bc,stats

23:56