#trilema | 2014-01-15

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00084042 = 10.9675 BTC [-]

00:09

nubbins`: Which version on ubuntu?

00:15

13.10

00:16

The newer ones look for weird BIOS/UFCI stuff try 12.04 you can upgrade from there if necessary. The new installers suck with older mobile hardware though

00:16

yeah, tried 12.04 as well, didn't have much luck there either

00:16

this is a brand new netbook, i suspect display driver issues

00:16

Maybe?

00:17

bit outta my element here, been a while since i've had to dick around like this

00:17

You play with BIOS or whatever the fuck they call it now settings?

00:18

yeah, disabled secureboot, disabled uefi

00:18

etc

00:18

managed to boot into a liveusb install ONCE, have been unable to replicate this feat

00:18

occasionally it halts at a different step -- like right now, at "Stopping log initial device creation [OK]"

00:19

but like i say, tty1-6 available and responsive

00:19

just no gui

00:19

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27624 @ 0.00084042 = 23.2158 BTC [-]

00:27

nubbins`: Do you have a model number and such info?

00:28

hp pavilion 10-e020. google search doesn't turn up much.

00:28

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 241 @ 0.001 = 0.241 BTC [+]

00:29

i don't even get this far unless i add "nomodeset" to startup params. without that, the screen just turns off after a point

00:29

(not black, but off)

00:29

I'll do some looking up of things

00:30

thanks, almost at the end of my rope, but i can't let my poor mother use windows 8

00:31

the black screen thing seems fairly common

00:32

what machine exactly?

00:33

hp pavilion 10-e020

00:33

10-e020ca i guess, but i think that the "ca" just indicates country

00:33

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 140 @ 0.001 = 0.14 BTC [+]

~ 18 minutes ~

00:52

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+]

01:04

ah, okay, managed to get to the ubuntu desktop again

01:04

after once again disabling secureboot

01:04

house of cards ;(

01:05

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999998 = 0.25 BTC [+]

01:06

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 360 @ 0.001 = 0.36 BTC [+]

01:08

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC [+]

~ 19 minutes ~

01:27

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 863 @ 0.002897 = 2.5001 BTC [+] {6}

01:36

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13465 @ 0.00083987 = 11.3088 BTC [-] {3}

01:42

;;seen vexual

01:42

vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 19 hours, 7 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <Vexual> b&w

01:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23650 @ 0.00083941 = 19.852 BTC [-] {2}

02:01

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC [+]

~ 19 minutes ~

02:20

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25630 @ 0.0008414 = 21.5651 BTC [+]

02:26

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+]

02:30

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29393 @ 0.00084142 = 24.7319 BTC [+] {2}

~ 32 minutes ~

03:03

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4000 @ 0.001 = 4 BTC [+]

03:07

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12137 @ 0.00083937 = 10.1874 BTC [-] {2}

03:20

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00083927 = 6.4624 BTC [-] {2}

03:23

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.00084152 = 27.5177 BTC [+]

03:31

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20750 @ 0.00084152 = 17.4615 BTC [+]

~ 28 minutes ~

04:00

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+]

04:04

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 212 @ 0.001 = 0.212 BTC [+]

04:16

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4137 @ 0.0029 = 11.9973 BTC [+]

04:25

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36850 @ 0.00084062 = 30.9768 BTC [-] {3}

~ 36 minutes ~

05:02

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 800 @ 0.001 = 0.8 BTC [+]

05:10

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00084161 = 18.5154 BTC [+] {2}

05:19

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 15 @ 0.02499999 = 0.375 BTC [+]

05:26

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02694686 = 0.1347 BTC [+]

05:27

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02694687 = 0.1347 BTC [+]

05:28

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.53999996 = 1.62 BTC [+] {2}

~ 41 minutes ~

06:10

[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 200 @ 0.00337476 = 0.675 BTC [-] {14}

06:11

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 672 @ 0.001 = 0.672 BTC [+]

06:12

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999999 = 0.25 BTC [+]

06:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00083913 = 9.2304 BTC [-] {2}

~ 18 minutes ~

06:30

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00084183 = 18.3098 BTC [+] {2}

06:33

.d

06:33

1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1628 blocks | Estimated Change: 15.1951% in 9d 13h 58m 51s

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07:01

http://cointerra.com/engineering-updates-terraminer-iv-hashing-live/

07:05

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307042.msg4524561#msg4524561 lol

07:05

[PicoStocks] CoinTerra [coint]

07:06

wait wut ?!

07:07

ahaha more of the "making roi hand over fist"

07:08

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 13 @ 0.03978518 = 0.5172 BTC [-] {4}

07:11

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.03978534 = 0.1989 BTC [+]

07:14

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.03978534 = 0.1989 BTC [+]

07:15

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.03978534 = 0.1989 BTC [+]

07:16

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.03978667 = 0.3979 BTC [+] {4}

07:16

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 344 @ 0.0029 = 0.9976 BTC [+]

07:24

[HAVELOCK] [COG.F2] 1 @ 0.79989995 BTC [+]

07:26

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.03979999 = 0.199 BTC [+]

07:31

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 106 @ 0.025 = 2.65 BTC [-] {4}

07:32

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.000842 = 12.5037 BTC [+]

07:39

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24356 @ 0.00084034 = 20.4673 BTC [-] {3}

07:49

http://trilema.com/2014/a-conceit-or-the-importance-of-blogging/

07:49

A conceit, or the importance of blogging pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

07:51

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 299 @ 0.00289365 = 0.8652 BTC [-] {3}

07:52

blogging is "important" nowadays huh :D

07:53

definitely.

07:54

i used to think otherwise

07:54

what has caused the change of view?

07:55

lol schmucks

07:56

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 347 @ 0.0422545 = 14.6623 BTC [+] {23}

07:56

?

07:57

for me, personally, it has been the realization that people need more meat and potatoes so to speak than just a flashy website that just gets the point across..it provides a substantial base of information that compliments and validates your site or your image.

07:57

definitely.

07:58

0.0

07:58

VanCleef

its pretty homoerotic tho

07:58

VanCleef

twitter is more important than a blog

07:59

In many cases it gives the visitor a doggie bag or a sample of knowledge or data that they may be able to use. Sometimes closing the deal on sales or further investment of your idea or product.

08:00

I see twitter as a different type of tool than a blog, not more or less important.

08:00

u think ppl have time to read wall of text

08:00

have time = want

08:01

They make time to read what they are looking for, as long as its delivered to them in a way they can digest it, I suppose. For instance, I read the Wall St. Journal primarily for the Marktplace section. I get and enjoy information from other parts as a side benefit.

08:02

ure a nerd though

08:03

But I go hard, I drink with friends in bars, strip clubs and I enjoy street and drag racing.

08:03

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 6091 @ 0.001 = 6.091 BTC [+]

08:03

Whats it matter

08:04

just trying to say u put in more effort than most ppl prob

08:04

maybe..but idk today is a new day and age..ppl suprise me from time to time.

08:05

sure

08:05

its going to be cold here in south florida next few days..might see 30 degrees, highs of only 60's 70 degrees. brrr..

08:06

oh thats sooo cold

08:06

truffles what's with this arrogand, offensive anti-intellectualism ?

08:06

people enjoy reading, because people enjoy not being americans every chance they get.

08:06

im anti intellectual?

08:07

course there are those less fortunate who rarely get such a chance, but you're basically arguing that they should be opressed moar just to keep it up.

08:07

not arguing in either direction, its called observation

08:07

you're also a weasel, but whatever.

08:08

didn't you just call the guy a nerd for not being as stupid as you'd like people to be generally ?

08:08

he's not a nerd, you're scum, that's all.

08:08

twizt

lol

08:08

i just roll my eyes

08:09

so over the top trying to be right?

08:09

read a book instead. same effort, moar results.

08:10

id like to know what definition ure using for weasel and scum

08:11

=/

08:11

weasel is someone who behaves arrogantly and offensively anti-thinking, and when they have it pointed out to them they claim they were "just observing", in your case.

08:11

more generally, any passive-aggressive behaviour fits under weasel.

08:12

and scum is one who thinks that the solution to their own stupidity and laziness is enticing, encouraging and if need be forcing everyone else to be equally lazy and stupid.

08:12

how was i being arrogant in this case

08:13

<truffles> just trying to say u put in more effort than most ppl prob << how do you distinguish this from "niggers are just born with less smarts" ?

08:13

they're the same substance, "let's presume inferiority abroad"

08:13

such presumption is the core of arrogance.

08:13

anyone could be a nerd

08:13

no. anyone could be you.

08:13

being what you call a nerd takes some sweat.

08:14

or in other words, any fuckwit can "roll their eyes" pointlessly. actually reading a book takes some effort.

08:14

arguing with u would take effort

08:14

id have to painstakingly present the idea

08:14

and i cant be arsed

08:14

it does also save you from making a fool of yourself thinking hemingway invented donne, but that's i suppose a minor point, especially if you are careful to live among people who won't laugh to your face for it.

08:14

sigh

08:15

see ? now that's scum :)

08:17

one doesnt have to use big words but if ure constantly using profanity to exert an opinion its kinda hopeless

08:17

you may wish to check the definition of profanity.

08:17

if that's not too much effort for you today.

08:17

haha

08:18

let me use "insults" then

08:18

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00083792 = 8.6306 BTC [-]

08:19

there's the truthfulness defense. something's not an insult just because you don't like hearing it.

08:19

now ur opinions are truths umk

08:20

and for that matter, calling things you don't like to hear opinions doesn't much change the reality of them.

08:20

stuff that lays on the bottom of still water, rolling its eyes and not putting any effort is scum, that's what it is, look it up.

08:20

list the facts with evidence

08:20

i have little contribution in all of that.

08:23

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00289379 = 0.2315 BTC [-]

08:29

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32307 @ 0.00084059 = 27.1569 BTC [+] {2}

08:32

.d

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1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1615 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.8087% in 9d 13h 16m 35s

08:33

;;bc,stats

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08:38

;;later mike_c http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-mpoe/ is the dividends table off ?

08:38

Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "mike_c" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.

08:38

;;later tell mike_c http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-mpoe/ is the dividends table off ?

08:38

The operation succeeded.

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09:07

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00519903 = 0.1508 BTC [+] {2}

~ 19 minutes ~

09:26

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25909 @ 0.00084426 = 21.8739 BTC [+] {3}

09:30

;;later tell mike_c http://browsershots.org/screenshots/87688d1d7b2d311989c597ffa5845a8c see, that's what I mean. it's misalligned.

09:30

The operation succeeded.

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09:58

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00084532 = 8.7491 BTC [+] {2}

10:06

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC [+]

10:11

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 125 @ 0.001 = 0.125 BTC [+]

10:13

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15687 @ 0.00084585 = 13.2688 BTC [+]

10:19

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999999 = 0.25 BTC [+]

10:23

mircea_popescu: the table is aligned as designed. whether it's clear is another question. I went with showing the dividends in the month they were paid, which is generally the month after the profit was earned.

10:37

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 7752 @ 0.001 = 7.752 BTC [+]

10:38

mike_c: satoshi per share is off

10:39

also, information to how many shares was the dividend paid is very useful in this case

10:40

for example, i have to dig it up every month to distribute divs without rounding errors

10:40

i believe satoshi per share is accurate. at least, it is the same as on mpex

10:40

nope. if mpex pays 19btc to 100bn shares, it shows as 1 satoshi per share

10:40

but in reality it paid 19 satoshi per every 10 shares

10:41

hm. ok, thanks. i'll make it more accurate.

10:48

which stock is paying 19 satoshis?

10:49

last s.mpoe dividend was 13 satoshi per share. but it has 1bn shares :)

10:49

and to jurov's point, it was actually 13.65 satoshi per share

10:50

I was wanting to compare their div to ours

10:50

136 BTC in one month. probably bigger than yours.

10:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21904 @ 0.00084591 = 18.5288 BTC [+] {2}

10:51

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12642 @ 0.00084613 = 10.6968 BTC [+]

10:52

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.0052 = 0.2496 BTC [+]

10:53

I don't think based on apy it is

10:54

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.005199 = 0.1144 BTC [-]

10:54

no. the stock price went up a lot last year, so the div. yield is pretty small.

10:54

That's all I was getting atr

10:55

[HAVELOCK] [MS] 2000 @ 0.005 = 10 BTC

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00515 = 0.515 BTC [-] {2}

10:55

Is there a longer-term chart for it?

10:55

as a matter of fact there is :) http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-mpoe/

10:55

Thanks

10:56

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0050215 = 0.2009 BTC [-]

10:56

morning #b-aa

10:56

So mircea owns what % of s.mpoe?

10:56

83.8%

10:56

k

10:57

so btcalpha only deals with mpex investments?

10:58

btcalpha is mine, just launched recently. deals with things i find interesting in btc finance.

10:58

It's a very clean looking site

10:58

thanks

10:58

I'd be interested in you adding HL

10:58

not much i find interesting on havelock.

10:59

HL croaks by the time mike manages to do it

11:00

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.06500001 = 0.455 BTC [-] {2}

11:00

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+]

11:00

mike_c oh i c. maybe make a note somewhere or who knows

11:00

yeah, will do. it's not super clear.

11:01

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.06250001 = 0.25 BTC [-] {2}

11:01

it'll get confusing as all hell because s.mpoe actually pays divs same month *most* months

11:02

i didn't want to force it though. start arbitrarily applying divs to certain months. because like, what about when a div is paid wrong? do I "fix" it? it does need to be more clear.

11:03

you do have a point there.

11:04

there's value in this "theory / practice" approach anyway. for one thing mpex contracts even allow assets to skip a month entirely

11:11

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC [+]

11:17

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 5720 @ 0.001 = 5.72 BTC [+]

11:17

I think its advantages like that those who scoff at the 30 btc seat on the exchange fail to learn.

11:18

uh nvm

11:21

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 439 @ 0.00483328 = 2.1218 BTC [-] {15}

11:21

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC [+]

11:21

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54000102 BTC [+]

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11:37

kakobrekla

.d

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1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1593 blocks | Estimated Change: 15.2044% in 9d 9h 0m 56s

11:37

kakobrekla

nothing on the no side

11:41

i guess it has to go to shit first

11:43

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 962 @ 0.001 = 0.962 BTC [+]

11:49

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00008607 = 0.3443 BTC [-] {3}

11:50

[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 8 @ 0.1 = 0.8 BTC [-] {2}

11:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13582 @ 0.00084579 = 11.4875 BTC [-]

11:59

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32050 @ 0.00084571 = 27.105 BTC [-] {2}

12:00

wowie

12:02

nice, great bet.

12:02

http://bitbet.us/bet/718/satoshi-nakamoto-will-be-times-person-of-the/

12:03

BitBet - Satoshi Nakamoto will be Time's Person of the Year 2014

12:04

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1500 @ 0.00008603 = 0.129 BTC [-]

12:06

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 19 @ 0.07999998 = 1.52 BTC [+] {4}

12:09

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 12000 @ 0.00047606 = 5.7127 BTC [-] {5}

12:10

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 13200 @ 0.0004521 = 5.9677 BTC [-] {16}

12:11

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1800 @ 0.00044767 = 0.8058 BTC [-] {7}

12:12

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.00043646 = 0.1309 BTC [-] {6}

12:12

[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.10989993 = 0.3297 BTC [+] {3}

12:14

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00289999 = 0.1972 BTC [+]

12:16

Don't know if any rentalstarter investors are in here but i'm sending payment in 30m

12:16

are you officially listing on hl?

12:16

Yes

12:16

when?

12:17

Whenever HL gets the paperwork approved, already sent it out to them Monday

12:17

kakobreklahttp://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

12:18

good luck. i still don't think you should be raising btc, but you should be one of the better investments on hl :)

12:18

http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

12:18

Bitcoin Difficulty and Hashrate Chart - BitcoinWisdom

12:18

Why shouldn't we be raising btc?

12:18

because i don't think your roi will be better than just holding btc

12:19

ozbot and gribble seem to bemuch different than Bitcoinwisdom.

12:19

mike thatsnot a reason

12:20

will any stock be better than holding btc?

12:20

yes, stocks that aren't tied to a fiat income stream.

12:20

all investors should knowvy now thatstocks are merely denominatedinbtc

12:21

no such thing

12:21

all assets are affectedby fiat

12:21

That's kind of the point i'm making. Everything from my perspective was hammered shareprice wise when BTC went from $200>$1200

12:22

And even though many of the assets 'weren't in fiat' they seemed to suffer a good deal from fiat's decline in value relative to BTC

12:22

its also possible forbtc to decline in price

12:23

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4056 @ 0.00084675 = 3.4344 BTC [+]

12:24

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 23 @ 0.02420869 = 0.5568 BTC [-] {4}

12:24

At any rate, RentalStarter collected an average of $81 in fiat per BTC during the IPO phase, bitcoin is now worth 10x more and our div yield in BTC will be 14.3% going forward which puts us right in the middle of the pack on Havelock. Only two stocks would have higher dividends, 5 would have lower dividend yields.

12:24

So let me stress that, 14.3% dividend yield based on investments at $81 per BTC

12:25

it also doesn't include the fact that we haven't utilized 20% remaining capital in our account due to it being insufficient to buy more properties.

12:26

how did that clemens line go, "the less one is inclined to make definitive universal statements, the less likely they are to look like some random noob that ended up in the wrong channel"

12:28

everything sucks

12:28

*the* most defnitive universal statement

12:29

some shit blows.

12:29

that's not universal

12:29

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-15/sheer-idiocy-markets-one-chart-back lol, yet another one, after twtr

12:29

The Sheer Idiocy Of The Markets In One Chart... Is Back | Zero Hedge

12:30

efficient market pricing at its finest

12:32

"everything sucks in the most efficient way possible"

12:32

.bait

12:32

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m69y6rGMuL1rwei2eo1_500.jpg

12:32

These tech aquisitions make no sense to me

12:32

Mmm

12:32

mircea_popescu: 'Lagrangian mechanics' of sucking?

12:32

asciilifeform :D

12:33

anyway, i dun see the big deal. if this wasn;'t a problem we wouldn't need trademarks

12:33

and also we could keep gasoline in cups right next to our coffee cups and type away in the dark

12:34

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.07000001 = 0.14 BTC [-]

12:34

perchance, isn't there a company with ticker like BTC or MPEX ?

12:34

or DOGE? :DDDD

12:35

punkman

there'

12:35

punkman

there's a BTC stock

12:35

the winklevoss etf?

12:36

no doge... but unearthed this: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/congress-finally-discovered-doge-going-171000253.html;_ylt=A2KJ3CbvxtZSC2MADnuTmYlQ

12:37

lol this is what internet experts with mucho experience and #1 delo negocios come up with

12:42

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.07 = 0.35 BTC [-] {3}

12:42

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.049999 = 0.25 BTC [-]

12:46

[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [+]

12:47

[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [+]

12:53

mike_c i don't like that your comments eat newlines

12:53

.d

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1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1587 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.2558% in 9d 10h 46m 52s

12:54

yeah, it looks dumb.

12:54

bitbet has the same problem, except there it's kind of deliberate to encourage ppl to be brief

12:55

it will improved soon. easy fix.

12:57

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.0048091 = 0.1058 BTC [-] {3}

12:59

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.049999 = 0.75 BTC [+]

13:00

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 135 @ 0.04999999 = 6.75 BTC [+]

13:02

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 87 @ 0.02500574 = 2.1755 BTC [-] {2}

13:03

FonziScheme joined the chat room.

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FonziScheme: eyyyyyyy

13:03

lel

13:05

>.<

13:17

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.04999999 = 2 BTC [+]

~ 17 minutes ~

13:34

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10595 @ 0.00084675 = 8.9713 BTC [+]

13:42

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999999 = 0.25 BTC [+]

~ 25 minutes ~

14:08

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3055 @ 0.00084688 = 2.5872 BTC [+]

14:10

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00084628 = 18.2796 BTC [-] {2}

14:19

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22695 @ 0.00084753 = 19.2347 BTC [+] {2}

14:29

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8755 @ 0.00084837 = 7.4275 BTC [+]

14:33

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00284957 = 0.9973 BTC [-] {4}

14:35

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00084474 = 14.3606 BTC [-] {2}

14:36

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.08200198 = 0.492 BTC [+] {2}

14:36

CryptoAdd

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14:37

oo that's gonna get annoying

14:38

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.08200199 = 0.41 BTC [+]

14:44

and the difference between worldcoinindex and coinmarketcap?

14:45

too late, spammer left.

14:47

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14:47

seriously

14:47

:(

14:47

yep, definitely better with the #

14:47

next time moar *

14:47

i prefer >>>>> spammy! <<<<<<<<<

14:48

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14:48

(does this chan strip colors?)

14:48

new album from djmeat spin, visit us at meatspin.com

14:53

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.04999999 = 1.75 BTC [+]

15:05

lmao

15:05

pankkake ye

15:06

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 133 @ 0.04999999 = 6.65 BTC [+] {2}

15:06

:( http://i.imgur.com/ZVGqWGP.png

15:06

http://getaddr.bitnodes.io/ip/80.57.0.0/16/ << funny thing

15:06

Bitcoin nodes from 80.57.0.0/16 network prefix - getaddr.bitnodes.io

15:08

what is there to see?

15:10

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 156 @ 0.00279998 = 0.4368 BTC [-] {3}

15:10

guy's been running a node off the same ip he's spamming here ?

15:10

oh

15:10

including where you may wish to complain, some nl host.

15:15

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00084796 = 3.9006 BTC [+]

15:15

pankkake why is my name pink?

15:16

maybe my gaydar is broken

15:16

seriously. i want green.

15:19

lol

15:19

what color am i ?

15:19

red. the script doesn't have many colors, and worse, sometimes nicks of the same lenght get the same color…

15:23

hm

15:25

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.025 = 0.5 BTC [-]

15:27

mike_c: i have you pink, too. you need to change it, sry

15:28

maybe the gaydar is working. how revealing.

15:28

and mircea_popescu is light blue

15:29

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 549 @ 0.00099988 = 0.5489 BTC [+] {2}

15:35

well everyone's baby blue on my thing, except me. i'm gray.

15:37

you're all orange here, and i'm dark red

15:37

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00008611 = 0.3444 BTC [-] {4}

15:37

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54077111 BTC [+]

15:38

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 12 @ 0.08200198 = 0.984 BTC [-] {3}

15:39

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 167 @ 0.0009999 = 0.167 BTC [+] {2}

15:40

256 color options in weechat baby, I'm really living over here.

15:40

AM1 still holding above 0.5

15:40

not too bad

15:41

yeah, that's one of the reasons I need to switch to that weechat

15:42

but that's 10 years of habits to break

15:43

Yeah, that would be tough. Been a looong time since I used irssi/bitchx so it wasn't too bad for me.

15:43

ystarnaud: people still hold AM1?

15:44

yeah

15:44

maybe not as many people

15:44

but alot still do

15:45

interesting

15:45

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04999999 = 0.3 BTC [+] {2}

15:51

it's probably the most diversely-held stock in the history of btc

15:51

no doubt

15:55

.d

15:55

1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1560 blocks | Estimated Change: 16.1320% in 9d 1h 53m 16s

15:56

2% increase in just a few hours...nice

16:02

from the dept. of random turds:

16:02

http://www.amazon.com/General-Dynamics-Systems-13247489-02-Module/dp/B00GH2AB7M

16:02

General Dynamics C4 Systems 13247489-02 Module T25371: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

16:02

this is, apparently, a military disk drive.

16:02

http://www.armyproperty.com/product/4LEK3/13247489-03/

16:02

Product / Part Number: 13247489-03 - DISK DRIVE UNIT by GENERAL DYNAMICS C4 SYSTEMS INC. - 4LEK3 - A

16:04

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 525 @ 0.0009997 = 0.5248 BTC [-]

16:04

i always thought those got burned in the thermite pit on retirement, but go figure.

16:14

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.049991 = 0.6999 BTC [-]

16:19

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14595 @ 0.00084796 = 12.376 BTC [+]

16:24

ArsKisS

wut is dis

16:24

ArsKisS

seedcoin didn't crash more than 10%

~ 16 minutes ~

16:40

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 208 @ 0.00089396 = 0.1859 BTC [-] {10}

16:42

[MPEX] [S.NSA] 3000 @ 0.00017 = 0.51 BTC [+]

16:47

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00526 = 0.1841 BTC [+] {2}

16:53

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00084729 = 1.6946 BTC [-]

17:00

[MPEX] [S.NSA] 2000 @ 0.00017 = 0.34 BTC [+]

17:02

[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.109 BTC [-]

17:03

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00084729 = 4.2365 BTC [-]

17:05

[MPEX] [S.NSA] 15000 @ 0.00017 = 2.55 BTC [+]

17:06

[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1500 @ 0.0009 = 1.35 BTC [+]

17:07

[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1600 @ 0.0009 = 1.44 BTC [+]

17:09

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 115 @ 0.00099999 = 0.115 BTC [+]

17:10

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.024137 = 0.2414 BTC [-] {3}

17:12

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02689993 = 0.1076 BTC [+] {2}

17:12

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 88 @ 0.00272788 = 0.2401 BTC [-] {5}

17:13

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.04999999 = 0.45 BTC [+]

17:13

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.0052852 = 0.1268 BTC [+]

17:15

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1500 @ 0.00008671 = 0.1301 BTC [-] {2}

17:22

Neil

.d

17:22

1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1541 blocks | Estimated Change: 18.2494% in 8d 17h 50m 46s

17:22

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.5394726 = 3.7763 BTC [-] {5}

17:24

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35354 @ 0.000845 = 29.8741 BTC [-] {5}

17:29

Neil

Quite surprised there haven't been a few BTC on No recently on the 2bn diff bet

17:37

Neil, it's rarely less than the estimates

17:37

Lol, the comments and the not grep that the value of the price of risk keeps changing as more people want to buy risk

17:37

http://bitbet.us/bet/619/bitcoin-difficulty-at-or-above-2b-before-feb/

17:37

BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014

17:38

;;seen davout

17:38

davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 20 hours, 39 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <davout> isn't he chair of the foundation or sthg?

17:43

jurov :

17:43

http://bitbet.us/bet/454/btc-network-difficulty-tops-25-million-by-end/

17:43

BitBet - BTC network difficulty tops 25 million by end of June

17:43

http://bitbet.us/bet/458/btc-network-difficulty-tops-42-million-by-end/

17:43

BitBet - BTC network difficulty tops 42 million by end of July

17:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00084827 = 16.1171 BTC [+]

17:48

what's with the bets?

17:49

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 540 @ 0.00095 = 0.513 BTC [-] {2}

17:50

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.04999998 = 0.75 BTC [-]

17:50

they came out as no :D

17:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11442 @ 0.0008441 = 9.6582 BTC [-]

17:54

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1605 @ 0.00080383 = 1.2901 BTC [-] {6}

17:55

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=406689.0

17:55

is btc-e about to go away ?

17:57

maybe just problems with rented accounts

17:58

I hope so mircea_popescu

18:00

quick, bet no :)

18:00

http://bitbet.us/bet/716/btc-worth-over-5000-before-2015/

18:00

BitBet - BTC worth over $5000 before 2015

18:01

those claims are common and not new

18:02

ah

18:02

it seemed to suddenly add up to a lot more dough than normally.

18:03

"Experts" say bitcoin will be as low as $10 this year.

18:03

http://www.forbes.com/sites/samanthasharf/2014/01/15/10-one-perspective-on-what-bitcoin-will-be-worth-in-2014/

18:03

$10: One Perspective On What Bitcoin Will Be Worth In 2014 - Forbes

18:04

translation: experts want to buy cheap coin, time for chumps to sell

18:04

Forbes teh trolls

18:04

lmao experts.

18:04

the experts are here. forbes has the noobs.

18:04

Haha yea

18:05

there are different kinds of experts. some are expert at cattle herding.

18:05

i'm surprised that one didn't mention tulips

18:05

With that said, teh bitbet gets NO vote

18:05

i wonder what'd happen if you replaced the wsj's experts with seventeen magazine's experts for a week

18:05

they got the greater fool theory in there so 1/2 i suppose

18:05

specifically, whether anyone'd catch on.

18:05

LOL mircea_popescu

18:06

One thing for sure, their articles will be filled with "like" and "ummm" and "I was like.."

18:06

high time for a forbes-fueled Shannonizer

18:06

asciilifeform forbes has the circulation of mail order catalogues for anal plugs cca 1950, what herding ?

18:06

someone should recommend usagi to them

18:07

did american jailers plug the arses of condemned criminals in the '50s?

18:07

and if so, i wonder what market share of plugs this accounted for.

18:07

now that i dunno

18:08

subquestion : did the elctric chair include a buttelectrode ?

18:08

the famous 'Yellow Mama' electric chair in the wash. dc. museum seems to have a shit pan

18:08

so answer's probably no.

18:09

butt plugs to prevent prison rape?

18:11

worth noting that forbes.com/sites/* are just blogs

18:11

by people like "samantha sharf"

18:11

who don't really work for forbes, or have anything worth saying

18:12

samantha sharf is a good name for a stripper

18:12

cindi cockscarf and shamantha sharf

18:13

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1400 @ 0.00008671 = 0.1214 BTC [-] {2}

18:13

heh

18:16

"I write about stock markets, art markets, millennials and their money"

18:16

millenials have money?

18:16

i'm not sure what a millennial is, offhand

18:16

http://www.forbes.com/sites/samanthasharf/2013/12/05/bitcoin-gets-valued-bank-of-america-puts-a-price-on-the-virtual-tender/

18:16

Bitcoin Gets Valued: Bank Of America Puts A Price Target On The Virtual Tender - Forbes

18:17

a month ago, sharf thought bitcoin was worth $1300

18:17

ah, millennials are "generation y"

18:17

apparently i'm considered a senior millennial

18:18

millenials is how women that don't fuck tender reffer to the chicks which are just about ripe.

18:18

heh!

18:18

now there's a definition i can work with

18:19

pankkake: the plug (used even today, afaik) is to make cleanup easier.

18:19

american prisoners are denied the traditional gallows privilege of filling their pants.

18:20

best shit on the hands of the inserter

18:23

there are tales that some states use... superglue.

18:23

:0

18:25

yet another genius invention that can be used for good or evil

18:29

what about shitting? inmates get state-issued alternate butthole?

18:30

i think they only glue your poop chute when killing you

18:32

we use CA for adhering mesh to screen frames, i've glued tools to myself on occasion

18:32

no fun

18:32

works great on papercuts though.

18:34

once there was a blonde around here that arrived on emergency

18:34

cuz she glued her eyes together

18:35

like across her nose ?

18:35

you'd need a hydraulic press.

18:35

one nurse got hysterical laughing seizure and had to be dismissed for the day

18:35

so maybe the blonde had a hidraulic press

18:35

she mistook the glue for liner or whatever

18:36

o man...

18:36

it's eyedrops i swear

18:36

CA brand

18:36

no no she has a point, they have a stupid glue thing they use for fake lashes

18:36

it stinks similarly

18:37

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/worst-ways-die-8.jpg

18:37

if this fellow's head were turned sideways, one could glue his eyes together!

18:38

I wouldn't list that on the worst ways to die

18:38

me either.

18:38

me neither. but i didn't have the photo handy.

18:38

being successfuly hunted by a dingo

18:38

being shat on by the elephant would be (and this is a darwin award story btw)

18:44

why is being eaten by dingo to be avoided, compared to, say, wolf ?

18:46

<mircea_popescu> like across her nose ?

18:46

lelelelelel

18:47

yeah, good she didn't manage to knot them eyes

18:48

http://imgur.com/23BpKZ8

18:48

imgur: the simple image sharer

18:48

ermahgerd holm

18:49

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59200 @ 0.00084378 = 49.9518 BTC [-] {4}

18:50

asciilifeform dingo hunts by evisceration

18:50

wolf hunts like a sane canide (carotid section)

18:51

Dingos also look like adorable domestic dogs, so there is an additional embarassment factor involved.

18:51

depending on the locale, one needn't go to australia to be eaten by a pack of dogs.

18:52

i guess there's an african equivalent too

18:52

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1251 @ 0.00080015 = 1.001 BTC [+] {2}

18:54

http://31.media.tumblr.com/2f94e40d92631be4c73b017a9d18d09a/tumblr_mwy3m30YX81r43ttjo1_1280.jpg

18:54

her aspect ratio seems wrong

18:55

is there a next frame with dingo?

18:55

poor beast, what a meager meal.

18:55

lol

18:56

http://24.media.tumblr.com/ebd993da8798811cc1d50d729d451d63/tumblr_mzbesqhsFF1r2dyqzo1_1280.jpg

18:56

let's insist then.

18:57

that reminds me of http://hotchickswithdouchebags.com/

18:57

"you've not lived until you brought strippers on campus, to parade nude for the benefit of all the stuck up "career" bitchez"

18:58

career bitchez, zoologists write, hunt by evisceration.

18:58

http://imgur.com/a0gbUvb

18:58

this is a conceit, never actually found in nature.

18:59

feels > shields

18:59

http://25.media.tumblr.com/f5e0191f07148758db6b4273a130169c/tumblr_mw7tz1Gl5V1stdjcpo1_1280.jpg

19:00

you have a thing for public nudity

19:00

for [young] women. sure.

19:02

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/first-nation-teen-told-not-to-wear-got-land-shirt-at-school-1.2497009

19:02

First Nation teen told not to wear 'Got Land?' shirt at school - Saskatchewan - CBC News

19:02

"Additional meetings between the school and leaders of the Star Blanket First Nation led to an understanding that Star's sweatshirt, and its message, were acceptable after all."

19:03

such bs all this. the whole charade is predicated on supposedly acting on principle

19:03

except the entire thing is directly the result of political negotiation, as an exchange of power.

19:04

the modern equivalent of "let's go to war for the love of jesus"

19:05

http://www.kinkondemand.com/kod/shoot/10018-Beautiful-German-Milf-Bound-and-Fucked-in-Public.html?c=1 not young, but by far my favorite PD scene

19:05

Bondage BDSM and Fetish Video on Demand - Beautiful German Milf Bound and Fucked in Public

19:06

youth is in the eye of teh beholder.

19:08

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/pipe-bomb-handed-back-to-edmonton-passenger-by-airport-guard-1.2497650

19:08

Pipe bomb handed back to Edmonton passenger by airport guard - Edmonton - CBC News

19:08

HAHAHAH

19:08

canadians really are polite, hey

19:09

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2715 @ 0.00084351 = 2.2901 BTC [-]

19:23

[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 89 @ 0.00315 = 0.2804 BTC [+]

19:33

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3602 @ 0.00084245 = 3.0345 BTC [-]

19:41

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00084107 = 10.2611 BTC [-] {2}

19:44

[MPEX] [S.MG] 5000 @ 0.00010001 = 0.5001 BTC [-]

19:57

[MPEX] [S.MG] 5000 @ 0.00010001 = 0.5001 BTC [-]

19:59

http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/15/blackphone/

19:59

Silent Circle & Geeksphone Join Forces To Build Blackphone: A Pro-Privacy Android-Based Smartphone

20:00

crypto hero turned u.s. gov. shill pushes honeypot, news at 11.

20:00

still waiting for a true GNU/Linux phone :(

20:00

[MPEX] [S.NSA] 3000 @ 0.00017 = 0.51 BTC [+]

20:01

if snowden is a 'hangout', getting people to buy this crap is clearly the objective of the hangout.

20:01

I don't understand why they would go for Android either

20:02

because cheap. won't cut into ft. meade's coke budget.

20:03

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21255 @ 0.00084071 = 17.8693 BTC [-] {2}

20:03

pankkake: you still think 'blackphone' is an honest/inept product, don't you.

20:04

I don't really care about the intentions behind it, but it cannot achieve its stated goal

20:05

some of the unstated goals can be achieved without selling a single unit, however.

20:05

(discrediting 'counter-nsa' tech as crackpottery, for instance.)

20:06

hum

20:06

what bothers me the most is the common belief that you only need to make crypto "easy"

20:06

you have to understand it or you will get burned

20:06

secure and easy don't go well together

20:07

it all starts to make sense once you understand that selling people rope with which to hang is the actual objective.

20:10

asciilifeform, do you have any ref related to this ?

20:11

to what, in particular?

20:11

pankkake it's deeper than that, too. us people wanted a system that'd work without their input. thirty years later... they have it.

20:12

this "making things easy" bs is just another name for "painting yourself out of the picture"

20:12

to the fact it will likely be a honeypot

20:12

Apocalyptic: sometimes, the answer is not printed in the back of the schoolbook. and you have to actually understand the problem and use your head.

20:13

i'm obviously not looking for a schoolbook here

20:13

Hey everyone. I wanted to introduce my tech startup. It's called Wave. We're planning to make internet access free using a new generation of ads-for-access. The best part is, we're doing our entire Series A investment round with Bitcoin: http://wavetele.com/layout/Pages/shares-area/beneficiaries.html

↖

20:13

mircea_popescu: the issue is that belief is present among "the good guys"

20:13

Here's the interactive demo http://wavetele.com

20:13

Apocalyptic: intro to sane cryptographic principles: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1299

20:14

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.54 = 1.08 BTC [+]

20:14

Apocalyptic i suppose his argument is chiefly "what else could it be"

20:15

even without any understanding of the politics, you can derive the answer:

20:15

1) what's it made of? how conceptually 'heavy' is the device?

20:15

this works sort-of well, until you end up with things like... i dunno, every show on tv being a honeypot by this approach, as well as every newspaper and most of everything else, cause they damn sure don't work for the advertised/intended purposes.

20:15

that is, can a motivated person with an undergrad-level education actually understand the design in its totality?

20:15

dja understand by this reading the average fridge is a honeypot ?

20:16

2) could you, given what the creator of the device has made public, re-create it?

20:18

as for the political component, zimmerman already fucked the public goat with the closed-source 'silent circle'

20:18

Do you guys like the demo? http://wavetele.com

20:19

mircea_popescu, yeah was kinda my point for bringing it up

20:19

unclehowell: the '90s called, want their turdware back.

20:19

now asciilifeform that's some interesting facts

20:20

I remember when I was using dialup and farming those free internets

20:20

Turdware. Not heard that before. Nice!

20:21

they all went bankrupt of course

20:21

I heard they used to do ads-for-access with dial up.

20:21

there were also the things that paid you to browse

20:21

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20441 @ 0.00084397 = 17.2516 BTC [+] {2}

20:21

even free computers with ads

20:21

MIchael Moritz helped us. We should nail it. I hope we do.

20:21

pankkake what, the bbss ?! those weren't free, foo. urmom was payin' for it.

20:21

anyone remember the 'cuecat' ?

20:22

unclehowell as far as anyone knows, you're some guy that started talking the moment he joined and what he had to say was some sales angle. this is exactly how to end up on the ignore list of half the chan within five minutes, and on the mocklist of half the rest.

20:22

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CueCat

20:22

CueCat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

20:22

asciilifeform shit you spoiled it

20:23

mircea_popescu: no, we eventually had dialup that did not have a cost for the dialer; but of course you had to pay the ISP you dialed to

20:23

Cheers mircea_popescu, I hear you. Yeh, I'm new to this

20:23

i was keeping this as my personal private chuckle re all the ninnies with the qr codes that revolutionise w/e the fuck

20:23

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 359 @ 0.00084569 = 0.3036 BTC [+]

20:23

unless it was those free things, our you found other, dirty ways to get it for free

20:23

pankkake wait, you're from the magical land of the minitel aren't you

20:23

i have like a dozen of those cats

20:23

clever fellow figured out how to use cuecat as a generic scanner, the bastards sued

20:23

used to work at radioshack when they phased em out

20:24

'it isn't yours, we gave it to you strictly in the opening to be raped in'

20:24

yes… minitel is the thing to blame for the lack of good internet access at the time

20:24

I worked Maplins. Then Cyber Security in the MOD. I love tech.

20:24

"The bars are tilted 22.5° to the left, both for stylistic reasons and to avoid Lemelson parallel barcode patent concerns."

20:24

someone patented straight lines in that fuckfest of insanity over there.

20:24

it needs a reset.

20:25

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/275213.stm

20:25

lemelson is the original patent troll

20:25

the grandfather of them all.

20:25

we had free dialup back in the dark ages of network termination rates

20:25

Wave is my tech startup. So what do you guys think? Will we ever have free internet access. My only competitor seems to be Zuckerberg himself with http://internet.org/

20:25

phun phact: the smithsonian museum has a 'lemelson gallery of invention hall of fame'

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a little like an 'eichmann museum of judaism'

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You guys really know about the free internet initiatives. Awesome speaking to you all. Where they all failed we hope to succeed with http://wavetele.com

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lol are you a bot?

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he watched my video from the other day

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[MPEX] [S.BBET] 550 @ 0.0009 = 0.495 BTC [+]

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you had a video the other day ?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9il52dlnnc

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Selling is Service, Service is Selling - A Musical Training Video (Original) - YouTube

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can i have fries with that ?

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make the gril watch it and your jimothy conversion rates will blow up

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she tried to talk in the activemining thread, I'm afraid those guys are too far gone

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it's almost the gambler falacy in that thread

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because all the bad luck was used up on labcoin, actm will be a huge success

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lol, never thought of that

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i hope they're successful though, i know guys that lost only 50% of their assets in labcoin because the other 50% was in actm >.<

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to be successful they'd have to ask for things like clear financials. right now they're just encouraging more scam

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i don't see how actm can be successful even if they turn out to be legit

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and just stopping right now and refunding whatever is left, but oh well

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not losing 100% would be a success at that point :p

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yea pretty much

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but after figuring out they have been lied to… nothing

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actually, the lack of communication is now blamed on people who supposedly contacted easic

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so the message is "if you ask questions it will be worse"

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i don't know why i even read that thread, it's just as stressful to me as the labcoin nonsense and i don't even own any actm

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Duffer1> because all the bad luck was used up on labcoin, actm will be a huge success <<< bwahahaha

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spot on methinks

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I don't know why it obsesses me either

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pankkake same old story, the same derpage from new derps. the derps last three months on average, but their derpage is immortal.

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they're voting on whether or not to move shares to colored coins

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2014#445473 <= that thing made me realize that even if the shit I still have on havelock works, most of the profits won't end up in my pocket

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#bitcoin-assets log

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honestly, I just ask myself what I would do if I had millions coming in and no accounting

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I'd just buy myself things "for the company"

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or pay yourself a huge wage

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cause you know CEO's got to be paid

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1141 @ 0.00084385 = 0.9628 BTC [-]

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yeah, those are usually not disclosed

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when in fiat land "CEOs" of startup don't pay themselves for years

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well, except in the dot com bubble actually

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Duffer1: the colored coin thing is weird, yes… as if the risk was in the exchange

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it's much easier for an exchange than for a business to escape the law anyway

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it would be nice if the first colored coin experiment company wasn't a scam

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although the information would be valuable either way i suppose

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mircea_popescu: did you write anything on the subject of the log.b-a link? I bookmarket it, but an actual article would be nice

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um write like what ?

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"if you review the early history of btc scams, 2011s, you'll see most corps turned scams once the "ceo" confronted the problem of "we have cashflow. what to do with that cash ?"."

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I wonder how colored coins can handle panics

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ah ah.

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so actually, a scam would be a better experiment!

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if you have to wait for confirmations to cancel orders

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that can be a lot of fun

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it's possible there's some stuff in the early posts of mpoe-pr

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there are some trilkema articles but they be in romanian as this is pre-change

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pankkake: I'd just buy myself things "for the company" << Well Mr. Ipswitch since everyone of my expenses are obviously for a legitimate business purpose. ( Elaine turns on water pic to water plants.)

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in France we have "Abus de bien social" - I didn't find any translation for this (at least legal terms)

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I used to think it was to prevent people from escaping VAT

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" CueCats were also bulk mailed (unsolicited) to certain mailing lists, such as subscribers of technology magazines Forbes and Wired."

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that's a nice tidbit.

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"En France, l'abus de biens sociaux est un délit qui consiste, pour un dirigeant de société commerciale , à utiliser en connaissance de cause les biens, le crédit, les pouvoirs ou les voix de la société à des fins personnelles, directes ou indirectes." Prescription3 ans CompétenceTrib. correctionnel

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eheh, QR codes before their time… but that device must have been very bulky

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something between conversion and embezzlement i guess.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8897 @ 0.00084691 = 7.535 BTC [+]

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http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/13/booth-babes-dont-convert/

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Booth Babes Don’t Work | TechCrunch

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(Protip: Its frowned upon when you actually put booth babes as line item in your budget).

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it will never cease, this, will it ?

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if i ever go to the ces my booth babes will be topless

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http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/screen-shot-2014-01-13-at-10-38-52-am.png << those are babes ? seriously now.

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they're fucking up the babeness and then pretending "it dun work".

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.54 = 2.16 BTC [+]

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topless babes might attract because of the novelty

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the "babes" posts of shows are pretty sad, as most of the girls aren't very attractive. or dressed like shit

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at least the tech shows

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yes well, you can't go to the car race in a box with wheels glued on and then decide "cars are stupid"

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and you don't use them to "sell", you use them to project an image.

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in short, it takes skill, skill which random muppets in the freakshow do not have. big whoop. don't blame the hammer for the bumps on your head.

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[MPEX] [S.MG] 5000 @ 0.00010001 = 0.5001 BTC [-]

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yeah so at least dress them properly!

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"Many times I observed that while my team was busy in demos with other prospects, the booth babes were unable to hold the interest of these execs for the extra five minutes that I needed to get a person from our team to engage. I had no such trouble with the other ladies since I had requested that specific soft skill."

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derp. some retarded 20something that can't hold anyone occupied for five minutes is in no sense of the word a "babe".

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so broken, this.

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http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/asian-girl-bang-bang-gif.gif she would hold my interest

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04999998 = 0.3 BTC [-]

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"the ones that the booth babes had no trouble attracting were often low-level, overconfident IT nubs the guys that were already always first at the hosted bars and whose highlight for the quarter was being authorized to travel for the event. They had neither the authority nor the budget that made them ideal prospects for our sales teams. All these guys do is lower your conversion from lead to opp and lower your ROI

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on the show."

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ahaha the guy is so close to sprouting a mpoe-pr line, and yet he somehow just... can't.

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". First off, marketing departments in big companies are under-budgeted, under-staffed, and under-appreciated. " bwahahaha

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ok, i've not had so much fun since reading the forum digest this morn

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he must work in marketing

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yeah, he's one of the schmucks looking for a new gig.

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remember, always be looking for a new gig.

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« Aucune décision de lassemblée générale ne peut avoir pour effet déteindre une action en responsabilité contre les administrateurs ou contre le directeur général pour faute commise dans laccomplissement de leur mandat. »

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dude your laws over there are fucking broken.

21:32

who owns the company, the shareholders or the french republic ?

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I think that's the part that bothered me; and it's probably there for tax reasons

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VAT is the root of all evil

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(especially when you have to write accounting software)

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i certainly can't see how anyone'd accept to run his business in france.

21:35

forget any other problems : this one is enough.

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clearly that state does not fully understand its inferior position to businesses.

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lol, no. in the media we have politicians always telling businessmen what they should do

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yes, well, that's unfortunate. i suppose people that wish to starve will starve.

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my phobia of paperwork will always prevent me from creating a registered business anyway

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In September 2000, security watchdog website Securitywatch.com notified Digital Convergence of a security vulnerability on the Digital Convergence website that exposed private information about CueCat users.[14] Digital Convergence immediately shut down that part of their website, and their investigation concluded that approximately 140,000 CueCat users who had registered their CueCat were exposed to a breach that reve

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aled their name, email address, age range, gender and zip code. This was not a breach of the main user database itself, but a flat text file used only for reporting purposes that was generated by ColdFusion code that was saved on a publicly available portion of the Digital Convergence web server.

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epic.

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i had totally forgotten just how damned good cuecat is.

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I forgot about ColdFusion. what an horrible thing

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there was like an exploit a week

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in this case it'd seem it wasn't even its fault

21:43

more or less; those "programming is easy" tools will make people make mistakes

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like the easy crypto we talked about earlier!

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.d

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1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1507 blocks | Estimated Change: 18.7366% in 8d 12h 4m 56s

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http://bitbet.us/bet/596/btc-difficulty-to-increase-by-less-than-10/ isn't going to happen :(

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BitBet - BTC difficulty to increase by less than 10%

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[MPEX] [S.BBET] 250 @ 0.0009 = 0.225 BTC [+]

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Diablo-D3

I forgot cuecat ever happened

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maybe

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[MPEX] [S.NSA] 1600 @ 0.00017 = 0.272 BTC [+]

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did I just see cuecat mentioned?

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The bar code readers radioshack was giving away?

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diametric yeah, they reminded me of all the fiat-bitcoin stuff going on in the 2000s

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00084712 = 14.401 BTC [+] {2}

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diametric: a spammer wandered in, pushing 'ad-supported net access'

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and somebody mentioned how he mooched from ad-based dial-ups back in the day

21:51

I was sitting in my office in 2009 when I was reading about bitcoin the first time. I loaded up the crappy web based miner at the time while I read about it. I tried finding some stuff to spend it on, but the list was like, 5 pieces. The only one interesting to me was a voip provider, but it was like 10 bitcoin a month or something.

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which reminded me of cuecat

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if only I knew..

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i had people fighting with my preconceived notions for months before i actually gave the thing a look

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i threw that very same web-based miner on my site for a short spell.

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if only i knew... etc.

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it's how it goes.

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and spent a while looking for possible attacks.

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i actually left that web based miner running on a windows PC I never touched then

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for like a month.

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(bitcoin superficially resembled some of my own unpublished crackpottery, and the differences struck me as 'insecure')

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and then i forgot about it.

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i also tend to lazily read the source of things while they build (gentoo crackpots unite!)

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and the bitcoin source struck me as ugly and 'surely full of strange'

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hehe, trying to build bitcoin is the first time I went away

21:56

it was using wxwidgets or something

21:56

i wonder if I can make money body scanning people and printing them into onto cocks that I can cast with food safe silicone and make edible dickheads.

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err wrong channel

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laugh all you like, but this almost exists

21:57

when i was buying castable silicone on 'amazon', the search results included a kit named 'clone-a-willy'

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Panadol_: i used to be a gentoo dev

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wrong p.

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pankkake: i used to be a gentoo dev

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there right p.

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oh

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asciilifeform: yeah, but I can actually use my 3D scanner (that does full body now), and scan someones face, union it onto their own dick if they even want, and then cast it

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you could probably squeeze the silicone putty through an extruder.

21:59

gentoo went downhill when daniel took a job at microsoft.

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i still use it, grudgingly and with grumbling, from the lack of an equivalent alternative.

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[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1204 @ 0.0008035 = 0.9674 BTC [-] {6}

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I never followed the drama, but gentoo seems to be always full of it

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i mostly just ported packages to x86_64

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but yeah it was full of drama

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pankkake: every once in a while, the gentoo dev people push out a turd that auto-breaks everything.

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once in a while is relative

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that's not very surprising, but it seemed more personal drama

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if you don't update your system every single week an update will fuck you

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I like gentoo because I know I can fix it, breakages don't really bother me

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They used to have a policy against it, way back earlier that no emerge sync should ever break a system

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but then that went out the window

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pankkake: same. but it sucks telling people 'i'll get nothing useful done for the next two days, have to fix xorg'

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ahaha no you don't!

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<diametric> i wonder if I can make money body scanning people and printing them into onto cocks that I can cast with food safe silicone and make edible dickheads.

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Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1553798/plain/)

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!b 1

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I think you can get away with 2 months

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mircea_popescu: i actually have everything to do this

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i must admit it sounds vaguely tempting

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every gentoo aficionado i've ever met was an 'expatriate' from *bsd.

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i could give a dickhead of me to each girl!

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maybe I could make the paper again

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asciilifeform: thankfully I have written many little helpers so I can get a machine ready fast; otherwise, it looks pretty ridiculous starting a job and spending the first week configuring the base system

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00084687 = 8.13 BTC [-] {2}

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asciilifeform: openbsd for me

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for me, it was years of freebsd

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until the stack of undrivered hardware widgets piled a little too high

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allow me to further improve everyone's productivity.

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http://31.media.tumblr.com/100a28a83cfc7229e611c36d02459cfc/tumblr_mv00ui1IsD1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg

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http://nixos.org/ seems interesting

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Nix/NixOS Home Page

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service is selling!

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sealing as a searvice!

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misread as 'stealing as a service'

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00084687 = 11.4327 BTC [-]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4868 @ 0.00084831 = 4.1296 BTC [+] {2}

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 897 @ 0.00047997 = 0.4305 BTC [+] {3}

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1233 @ 0.00047997 = 0.5918 BTC [+] {3}

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 809 @ 0.00047999 = 0.3883 BTC [+] {2}

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 411 @ 0.00047999 = 0.1973 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 808 @ 0.00047999 = 0.3878 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1219 @ 0.00047999 = 0.5851 BTC [+] {3}

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[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 35 @ 0.00350998 = 0.1228 BTC [+]

~ 21 minutes ~

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ah hey, my s.mg stock warrant can be redeemed now!

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fun

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00084995 = 10.1144 BTC [+] {2}

23:11

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21242 @ 0.00085023 = 18.0606 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MG] 15000 @ 0.00010001 = 1.5002 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04999998 = 0.2 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 98 @ 0.00524999 = 0.5145 BTC [+] {3}

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54 BTC [+]

23:40

http://bpravdarefugees.runboard.com/t203310

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The Cornfield :: Main Chat :: The Origin of Modern Neo-Liberal Economy | Runboard

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"Sewers caused all our troubles. The masses of this country are not like your Americans, nor even like the British. They are slave stock. They are good for nothing but slaves and only when they are used as slaves are they happy. But we, the decent people, made the mistake of giving them modern housing in the cities where we have our factories. We put sewers in these cities, sewers which extend right down to the

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workers quarters. Not content with the work of God, we thus interfere with His will. The result is that the slave stock increases. Had we no sewers in Madrid, Barcelona, and Bilbao, all these Red leaders would have died in their infancy instead of exciting the rabble and causing good Spanish blood to flow. When the war is over, we should destroy the sewers. The perfect birth control for Spain is the birth c

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ontrol God intended us to have. Sewers are a luxury to be reserved for those who deserve them, the leaders of Spain, not the slave stock."

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00084834 = 11.6223 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 99 @ 0.00528835 = 0.5235 BTC [-] {3}

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- As told to Associated Press correspondent Charles Foltz, 1936. (For those interested in going to the library for a fact-check, the quote can be found in Paul Preston, The Spanish Civil War 1936-1939, pp. 104-105 [Dorsey Press edition].)

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paging mircea_popescu!

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Its a good thing they don't charge for this anymore, I was starting to wonder if I really need this software.

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http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/synttare.htm

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