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← 2014-01-02 | 2014-01-04 →
00:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 260 @ 0.001 = 0.26 BTC
00:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00090536 = 7.0165 BTC [+]
00:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30430 @ 0.00091137 = 27.733 BTC [+] {5}
00:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00091488 = 14.0892 BTC [+] {2}
00:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15186 @ 0.0009093 = 13.8086 BTC [-] {2}
00:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.354 BTC [+]
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01:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1900 @ 0.001 = 1.9 BTC
01:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00090509 = 4.1634 BTC [-]
01:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00090882 = 1.7268 BTC [+]
01:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4000 @ 0.001 = 4 BTC
01:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3080 @ 0.00090882 = 2.7992 BTC [+]
01:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4000 @ 0.001 = 4 BTC
01:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00090953 = 8.3677 BTC [+]
02:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00091294 = 15.8395 BTC [+]
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02:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.09351428 = 0.6546 BTC [+] {2}
02:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 13 @ 0.10261144 = 1.3339 BTC [+] {6}
02:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [+]
02:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.132 BTC [+]
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02:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.35399999 BTC [-]
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03:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.35399999 = 0.708 BTC [-]
03:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.354 = 1.77 BTC [+]
03:09 kakobrekla www.snapchatdb.info
03:10 kakobrekla also rofl @ Contact us via Bitmessage
03:11 kakobrekla its a cool story
03:13 dub bro
03:14 KRS1 wtf how can they do this haha
03:15 KRS1 i mean wouldnt snapchat want this taken offline
03:15 kakobrekla http://www.zdnet.com/snapchat-names-aliases-and-phone-numbers-obtainable-via-android-api-say-researchers-7000019992/
03:15 ozbot Snapchat names, aliases and phone numbers obtainable via Android and iOS APIs, say researchers | ZDN
03:15 kakobrekla http://gibsonsec.org/snapchat/fulldisclosure/
03:15 kakobrekla http://www.zdnet.com/researchers-publish-snapchat-code-allowing-phone-number-matching-after-exploit-disclosures-ignored-7000024629/
03:15 ozbot Researchers publish Snapchat code allowing phone number matching after exploit disclosures ignored |
03:15 kakobrekla https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6083812
03:15 ozbot Ask HN: Take down my reverse-engineered Snapchat lib because they asked? | Hacker News
03:15 kakobrekla http://blog.snapchat.com/post/71353347590/finding-friends-with-phone-numbers
03:15 ozbot Snapchat - Finding Friends with Phone Numbers
03:16 kakobrekla full story.
03:16 KRS1 i didnt mean 'how' exactly but how come this hasnt been taken offline...data this good doesnt usually last long
03:18 KRS1 i love it
03:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.354 = 6.726 BTC [+]
03:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 131 @ 0.00189937 = 0.2488 BTC [+] {2}
03:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.354 = 1.77 BTC [+]
03:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.35428124 = 5.6685 BTC [+] {3}
03:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.35816359 = 9.3123 BTC [+] {5}
03:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15736 @ 0.00091047 = 14.3272 BTC [-] {2}
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03:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.365 BTC [+]
04:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3150 @ 0.05 = 157.5 BTC [+]
04:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7453 @ 0.00090986 = 6.7812 BTC [-] {3}
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04:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05 = 0.55 BTC [+] {2}
04:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12488 @ 0.00090885 = 11.3497 BTC [-]
04:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 117 @ 0.37905982 = 44.35 BTC [+] {8}
04:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 153 @ 0.00349999 = 0.5355 BTC [+] {3}
04:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 220 @ 0.0035 = 0.77 BTC [+] {3}
04:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.377 = 0.754 BTC [-]
04:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 239 @ 0.001 = 0.239 BTC
04:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00090646 = 7.1157 BTC [-]
04:57 BingoBoingo ;;later tell benkay You've got some weird unicode stuff going on with your url handling. You link to Loper is the primary example.
04:57 gribble The operation succeeded.
04:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00091072 = 6.5572 BTC [+] {2}
04:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1309 BTC [-]
05:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.379 = 0.758 BTC [+]
05:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.379 BTC [+]
05:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.379 BTC [+]
05:08 ArsKisS seedcoin sink incoming!
05:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.379 BTC [+]
05:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0029808 = 0.2385 BTC [-] {2}
05:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.0035 = 0.224 BTC [+]
05:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3885 = 0.777 BTC [+] {2}
05:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 116 @ 0.0035 = 0.406 BTC [+]
05:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 111 @ 0.0035 = 0.3885 BTC [+]
05:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00090894 = 18.2697 BTC [-]
05:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00091088 = 3.6435 BTC [+]
05:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
05:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 134 @ 0.0035 = 0.469 BTC [+]
05:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3799 BTC [-]
05:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 108 @ 0.0035 = 0.378 BTC [+]
05:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1568 @ 0.001 = 1.568 BTC
05:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.3799 = 3.0392 BTC [-]
05:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 200 @ 0.00199939 = 0.3999 BTC [+] {3}
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06:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [+]
06:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00091184 = 16.2308 BTC [+] {2}
06:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8060 @ 0.00091452 = 7.371 BTC [+]
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06:35 mircea_popescu .d
06:35 ozbot 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 1811 blocks | Estimated Change: -1.2611% in 12d 17h 34m 23s
06:35 mircea_popescu a negative ? that's a rare sight.
06:36 kakobrekla too small sample size eh
06:37 mircea_popescu ~200 blocks
06:37 mircea_popescu not that small, is it ?
06:38 kakobrekla a little over a day
06:38 kakobrekla 1% is in range id say
06:39 kakobrekla maybe it non americans mining
06:39 kakobrekla its*
06:40 kakobrekla running low on luck.
06:41 mircea_popescu but wait, a retarget is every 2100 blocks or so.
06:41 mircea_popescu this is like 10-15%, it's a sample.
06:41 mircea_popescu it SEEMS like a little over a day, but in fact it has been two days + doing the work of 30 hours
06:42 kakobrekla must be europeans then
06:44 mircea_popescu http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-10k.png
06:44 mircea_popescu looks more like normal noise really.
06:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3799 BTC [-]
06:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00090999 = 19.9288 BTC [-] {2}
06:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 108 @ 0.0029 = 0.3132 BTC [-]
06:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 327 @ 0.00288506 = 0.9434 BTC [-] {2}
06:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 190 @ 0.00287156 = 0.5456 BTC [-] {3}
06:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00091453 = 9.7397 BTC [+] {2}
07:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.05 = 0.35 BTC [+]
07:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 476 @ 0.05 = 23.8 BTC [+]
07:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3799 = 1.1397 BTC [-]
07:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.0035 = 0.196 BTC [+] {2}
07:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 350 @ 0.0035 = 1.225 BTC [+]
~ 15 minutes ~
07:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00091418 = 22.5802 BTC [-] {4}
07:31 VanCleef why are people buying am?
07:31 mircea_popescu coupla bitcoins can do anything.
07:35 kakobrekla aeshits and jiggles
07:35 kakobrekla http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg4287591#msg4287591
07:35 ozbot BitBillions GBBG
07:35 kakobrekla -ae
07:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.38275 = 1.1483 BTC [+] {3}
07:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.0035 = 0.3675 BTC [+] {3}
07:41 Duffer1 how is that not a pyramid scheme and how has it been around for almost a year?
07:41 Duffer1 what the shit
07:42 mircea_popescu Duffer1 it's there for comedy relief
07:42 mircea_popescu it's been there for almost a year because nobody [of any import] was stupid enough.
07:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00353492 = 0.1591 BTC [+] {4}
07:42 mircea_popescu a scam without any passive can last indefinitely.
07:43 Duffer1 amazing
07:43 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
07:43 Duffer1 indeed assbot, indeed
07:54 kakobrekla http://coingen.io
07:54 ozbot Coingen
07:59 Duffer1 brb mila kunis coin
07:59 Duffer1 am idoing this right?
07:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] [PAID] 4.62550000 BTC to 7`975`000 shares, 58 satoshi per share
08:00 mircea_popescu Mila Cunny's Koin
08:00 Duffer1 am i ritch yet?
08:02 mircea_popescu you're ricole nitchie.
08:02 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust BW^-
08:02 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user BW^-: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=BW^- | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BW^- | Rated since: never
08:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00091291 = 19.8101 BTC [-]
08:04 Duffer1 erf
08:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 58863 @ 0.00009497 = 5.5902 BTC [+] {2}
08:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.39881815 = 4.387 BTC [+] {4}
08:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.395 = 1.58 BTC [-]
08:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.4 = 4.4 BTC [+] {2}
08:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.40128316 = 2.4077 BTC [+] {6}
08:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [+] {2}
08:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 109 @ 0.00369945 = 0.4032 BTC [+] {4}
08:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.429 BTC [+]
08:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.401 = 2.406 BTC [-] {2}
08:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
08:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
08:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.409 BTC [+]
08:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00399473 = 0.7989 BTC [+] {5}
08:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 269 @ 0.00417361 = 1.1227 BTC [+] {3}
08:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00434468 = 0.2607 BTC [+] {5}
08:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.40000002 BTC [-]
08:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44047 @ 0.00091515 = 40.3096 BTC [+] {5}
08:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8232 @ 0.0009165 = 7.5446 BTC [+]
08:42 Duffer1 well done MP from hot slut to granny squirts in 7 words
08:45 mircea_popescu Duffer1 dja find it believable ?
08:45 Duffer1 not done yet
08:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.0009165 = 5.6365 BTC [+]
08:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.41 = 1.23 BTC [+]
08:55 Duffer1 the pretext for the poundings seemed a bit far fetched
08:56 Duffer1 but perhaps fitting for the timeline the story exists in
08:57 mircea_popescu fiction'd better fetch afar or else why am i reading it even
08:58 Duffer1 am actually curious why you're writing it
08:58 Duffer1 the erotica i mean
08:59 mircea_popescu i can
09:00 Duffer1 i agree
09:00 mircea_popescu so it'd seem i invented a dish. fried chicken livers in onions with a side of basmati and mild mango chutney
09:00 mircea_popescu this thing rocks
09:02 ThickAsThieves PAUL KRUGMAN: Bitcoin's Value Is Driven By The Fact That It Sounds Impressive
09:02 ThickAsThieves lol
09:03 ThickAsThieves http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-trader-job-2014-1
09:03 ozbot Bitcoin Trader Job - Business Insider
09:03 Duffer1 that only proves to me that he's trying to drive the price down to get cheaper coin
09:03 Duffer1 i don't see why else he'd still be talking about it
09:04 ThickAsThieves his job is to get views i assume
09:04 mircea_popescu ahahahaha
09:04 mircea_popescu EPIC! Man whose value is driven by the fact that he sounds impressive comments on the mother of all value.
09:04 ThickAsThieves but the irony of the headline...
09:04 mircea_popescu this is the story of the cat that looked at a mirror and decided the mirror is the painting of a cat.
09:05 ThickAsThieves NEWSFLASH: Bitcoin Doing Well Cuz It's a Good Idea
09:06 mircea_popescu ono but how could this be!1!11
09:06 mircea_popescu pls our lady of teh governments save us in this our hour of need! we can not live in a world where even a single good idea still draws breath
09:06 ThickAsThieves Here's Why Good Things Are Bad #READMYBLOG
09:06 mircea_popescu we are the stupid! the many!
09:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [+]
09:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02179999 = 0.109 BTC [+]
09:16 ThickAsThieves ;;estimate
09:16 gribble Next difficulty estimate | None based on data since last change | 1491769001.38 based on data for last three days
09:19 mircea_popescu pankkake say, if i want to hedge my exposure to your coin, can i use a hedgdoge ?
09:19 Duffer1 instantrimshot.com
09:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.41 = 1.23 BTC [+]
09:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 866 @ 0.0018633 = 1.6136 BTC [-] {7}
09:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 122 @ 0.001 = 0.122 BTC
09:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.415 BTC [+]
09:33 topace has there been some good asicminer news lately? price seems to be increasing
09:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.41666333 = 1.25 BTC [+] {2}
09:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42488999 BTC [+]
09:39 ThickAsThieves i think it just bottomed out
09:39 ThickAsThieves and people realized no one was sellign anymore
09:41 the20year1 who ThickAsThieves
09:42 Duffer1 asicminer
09:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.42827523 = 7.2807 BTC [+] {4}
09:45 VanCleef its a death trap
09:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23350 @ 0.00091155 = 21.2847 BTC [-] {2}
09:52 the20year1 where's asicminer being traded?
09:52 VanCleef havelockinvestments.com?
09:52 Duffer1 havelock is a passthrough
09:53 the20year1 wasn't sure
09:54 topace it isnt traded anywhere officially
09:54 topace the only place to trade it is a passthru
09:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0495 = 0.495 BTC [-]
09:54 VanCleef don't make it more confusing topace
09:55 topace heh
09:55 topace its not confusing at all
09:55 topace you have "direct shares" held with friedcat, or you have shares held on exchanges via passthru's
09:55 topace the passthru operators hold the direct shares
09:55 VanCleef i'm scared
09:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.437757 BTC [+]
10:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.421 BTC [-]
10:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.421 BTC [-]
10:16 rbonestell I'm still looking for beta testers for myHavelock, an Android app for monitoring your Havelock Investments portfolio!
10:16 VanCleef i only use drones
10:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22299 @ 0.00091151 = 20.3258 BTC [-] {2}
10:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 68.25110960 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 13 satoshi per share
10:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13955 @ 0.0009104 = 12.7046 BTC [-] {2}
10:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42000001 BTC [-]
10:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.41700001 = 0.834 BTC [-] {2}
10:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1550 @ 0.000094 = 0.1457 BTC [-]
10:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42000001 BTC [+]
10:49 mircea_popescu kakobrekla http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-december-2013-statement/
10:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.41400001 = 4.968 BTC [-] {3}
10:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41400002 BTC [+]
10:52 TomServo mircea_popescu: Can you elaborate on the "social shyness of the gold standard" ?
10:53 mircea_popescu back when sound money was a thing, middle class males spent their first three decades in their parent;s house and were generally unable to talk to strangers throughout their lives.
10:54 mircea_popescu these two may be unrelated. then again, maybe not. who's to know ?
10:54 mircea_popescu some people with nary a financial interest in the world do keep a keen eye to see what of the old time bitcoin brings back. it's really an anthropology goldmine first and foremost.
10:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10485 @ 0.00091204 = 9.5627 BTC [+]
10:57 TomServo Interesting. Thanks.
10:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.43 = 1.29 BTC [+]
11:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44164 @ 0.00090918 = 40.153 BTC [-] {5}
11:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 20498 @ 0.001 = 20.498 BTC
11:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.43483777 = 0.8697 BTC [+] {2}
11:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.436325 = 0.8727 BTC [+] {2}
11:10 ArsKisS omg
11:10 ArsKisS they actually bought 1,5m seedcoin
11:10 BW^- If anyone here is interested in making profit on your fiat in a Bitcoin-industry business, open conversation with me.
11:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.437757 = 3.0643 BTC [+] {2}
11:11 ArsKisS does that mean I get fiat or bitcoin?
11:11 BW^- arskiss: fiat!
11:11 ArsKisS if I win in your lottery
11:11 ArsKisS but what do I do with that :O
11:11 Duffer1 it means you get shit on
11:11 BW^- arskiss,duffer1: fiat in, more fiat out. through turning over bitcoins.
11:11 BW^- arskiss: pay rent, food, clothes (currently)
11:12 BW^- i mean, material things
11:12 Duffer1 ...............................
11:12 BW^- perhaps buy more bitcoins
11:12 ArsKisS lol
11:12 ArsKisS why dont i pay them with bitcoins?
11:12 BW^- arskiss: good Q.
11:12 ArsKisS anyway, I dont participate scams. have a nice day
11:12 Duffer1 ;;gpg ident BW^
11:12 gribble Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
11:13 BW^- anyhow, if there is a prospective interest in making more fiat out of fiat through turning over Bitcoin, I would be very happy to talk
11:13 BW^- Duffer1: mircea was kind to ask me for a WOT
11:13 BW^- i saw that database before
11:13 BW^- but
11:13 Duffer1 ;;gpg ident BW^-
11:13 gribble Nick 'BW^-', with hostmask 'BW^-!~Miranda@unaffiliated/bw-/x-2460362', is not identified.
11:13 BW^- and also its page. how do i register?
11:13 BW^- duffer1: I'm in Sweden and I visit mircea's city quite frequently.
11:13 Duffer1 ;;google web of trust
11:13 gribble Safe Browsing Tool | WOT (Web of Trust): <http://www.mywot.com/>; Download the WOT add-on | WOT (Web of Trust): <http://www.mywot.com/en/download>; Web of trust - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust>
11:13 BW^- feel free to add me on Skype, Facebook, etc. if you want a quick path to some sense of trust now.
11:14 mircea_popescu dude, you're running the wrong direction
11:14 BW^- duffer1: also I circulated on FreeNode with this nick for something like 3-4 years now.
11:14 mircea_popescu people aren't here because they don't know what facebook is or can't find some dollars.
11:14 mircea_popescu people are here because they despise those things.
11:14 mircea_popescu if yhou imagine a facebook page "adds trust" you should be on reddit.
11:16 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/01/parastoo-pge-metcalf.htm
11:16 asciilifeform no phalse phlag is complete without one of these!
11:17 mircea_popescu derp
11:17 BW^- mircea: mm
11:18 mircea_popescu "LOOKS CLOSER AND THE CORRUPT BACKWARD RULING PRINCES OF AN OIL-RICH DESERT FIND MORE MUTUAL BENEFIT FROM"
11:18 BW^- arskiss,duffer1: there were no followup Q:s so I guess this means that's not your thing
11:18 mircea_popescu such clinical. very by the book. much psych.
11:18 Duffer1 it sounds like it shouldn't be anyone's thing
11:18 asciilifeform i'd love to see the perl script this came out of!
11:18 kakobrekla BW^- lurk moar
11:19 BW^- mircea: what does your MPEx do?
11:19 BW^- kakobrekla: what's a moar?
11:19 mircea_popescu it makes me spend my fucking days writing reports, apparently.
11:19 asciilifeform in other news, dell corp. joins the denial chorus: http://en.community.dell.com/dell-blogs/direct2dell/b/direct2dell/archive/2013/12/30/comment-on-der-spiegel-article-regarding-nsa-tao-organization.aspx
11:20 BingoBoingo BW^-: Have you tried your pitch in -otc or -dev yet?
11:20 BW^- bingoboingo: nope! in -otc may be relevant.
11:21 BW^- -dev not so much
11:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 167 @ 0.00091204 = 0.1523 BTC [+]
11:21 BingoBoingo I hear people in both those channels could always use more fiat
11:21 kakobrekla and #btctc, #bitfunder, #glbse
11:21 BW^- bingoboingo: super!
11:21 BW^- indeed, "#bitcoin-assets" is pretty clear about that the Bitcoin is the asset :))))
11:21 kakobrekla also #btcst
11:21 BW^- and nothing else
11:22 BW^- kakobrekla: super thanks!
11:22 kakobrekla yw!
11:22 BingoBoingo Oh good recommendation BW^- Also do #btcst and #labcoin
11:24 mircea_popescu haters, the lot of you.
11:24 BW^- aha #btcst needs invitation
11:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43777499 BTC [+]
11:24 pankkake BW^-: yeah should be renamed #bitcoin-asset
11:24 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
11:24 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 871.0, Best ask: 874.999, Bid-ask spread: 3.99900, Last trade: 871.0, 24 hour volume: 16209.42453216, 24 hour low: 820.56318, 24 hour high: 888.8, 24 hour vwap: 859.64173
11:24 kakobrekla eh?
11:24 kakobrekla oh.
11:25 kakobrekla nvm.
11:25 Duffer1 just bitter
11:26 Duffer1 though i have made it a new years resolution to chill on the hating
11:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.437776 = 0.8756 BTC [+] {2}
11:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44776 BTC [+]
11:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 74 @ 0.0045 = 0.333 BTC [+]
11:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1790 @ 0.00091645 = 1.6404 BTC [+]
11:40 kakobrekla mircea_popescu signed
11:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4477699 BTC [+]
11:44 BingoBoingo This story seems like it might be related to Obama's magic tempest tent http://complex.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/18/exclusive_how_diplomacy_helped_cause_an_f_18_crash
11:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00449999 = 0.18 BTC [-] {2}
11:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.447769 BTC [-]
11:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.44776999 = 1.3433 BTC [+] {2}
11:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.0009171 = 17.8376 BTC [+] {4}
12:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00448999 = 0.1347 BTC [-]
12:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 2.01767224 BTC to 3`000`000 shares, 67 satoshi per share
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 614 @ 0.001 = 0.614 BTC [-] {3}
12:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 5012 @ 0.001 = 5.012 BTC [-] {2}
12:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3104 @ 0.001 = 3.104 BTC [-]
12:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 27940 @ 0.001 = 27.94 BTC [-]
12:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11643 @ 0.00091616 = 10.6669 BTC [-] {2}
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00410061 = 0.1517 BTC [-] {4}
12:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.05 = 1.2 BTC [+]
12:17 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/snsa-december-2013-statement/
12:17 ozbot S.NSA, December 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
12:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 802 @ 0.001 = 0.802 BTC [-] {2}
12:19 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
12:19 gribble Time since last block: 25 minutes and 47 seconds
12:19 mircea_popescu 3 blocks the past hour
12:19 mircea_popescu it's almost as if the hash had fallen from under the network.
12:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4507 @ 0.00090985 = 4.1007 BTC [-]
12:20 mircea_popescu .d
12:20 ozbot 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 1770 blocks | Estimated Change: 2.5876% in 11d 22h 54m 36s
12:24 ThickAsThieves hashin aint ez
12:24 mircea_popescu 41 blocks over the past 345 minutes. i guess it's about there.
12:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.44774898 = 1.3432 BTC [-]
12:29 mircea_popescu im sure glad i'm not here at some eatery among unfriendly ozarks people waiting for my payment to clear tho
12:29 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
12:29 gribble Time since last block: 35 minutes and 40 seconds
12:29 mircea_popescu it could have been a rather tough half hour.
12:33 BingoBoingo I'm looking at the Pirate Ponzi filings on PACER and it looks like we can add being a deadbeat to things Mr. Shavers sucks at in addition to all of the other things in his fail pile
12:34 mircea_popescu i thought this was well established ? something new there ?
12:35 BingoBoingo Well, he acknowledged his summons, and now has his fingers in his ears. This was a civil case. The time to evade, ignore, and avoid service was with the summons.
12:37 mircea_popescu a a
12:38 mircea_popescu he had a lengthy history of dubious relations with basically unfuckworthy women, is more of what i had in mind
12:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00091402 = 6.7637 BTC [+]
12:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.421042 BTC [-]
12:55 plambert mircea_popescu: it looks like you put shipping under "intangible assets", why is it not just an "expense"?
12:56 the20year anyone know offhand what the cheapest bond/fund is that offer mining in terms of btc or dollars per GH?
12:56 asciilifeform plambert: how would you value 'getting the damned assembly going 3 days sooner' ?
12:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.421042 = 3.3683 BTC [-]
12:56 asciilifeform that'd be 'intangible asset,' no?
12:56 BingoBoingo I've submitted the BitBet and sent a bit to fund yes. I dunno if him getting substantial jailtime in his criminal case later this month would help or hurt the chances of yes winning.
12:58 ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212490.msg4283648#msg4283648
12:58 ozbot The Holy Grail I wish I could kiss the author of Bitmessage on his face.
12:58 ThickAsThieves bunch of updates to open transaction
12:58 ThickAsThieves with some decent video walkthroughs
12:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3375 @ 0.001 = 3.375 BTC [-]
12:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.05 = 3 BTC [+]
13:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 178 @ 0.001 = 0.178 BTC [-] {2}
13:02 mircea_popescu plambert it is an expense
13:02 mircea_popescu the idea being that expenses a company makes may either result in tangible or intangible goods, these being terms of art and defined in the original standard
13:03 mircea_popescu id est, http://trilema.com/2013/accounting-for-the-nonzero-asset-corporation-the-mpex-standard/
13:04 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/517/bfl-will-deliver-28nm-before-jan-6-2014/
13:04 ozbot BitBet - BFL will deliver 28nm before Jan 6 2014
13:04 mircea_popescu this is so eerie
13:04 mircea_popescu what will 2020 bring, i wonder, "bfl will deliver android sex bots" ?
13:04 mircea_popescu after all they can bfl-deliver anything, why think small.
13:05 mircea_popescu a capsein-containing strain of basmati rice, making your rice naturally hot.
13:05 plambert what has BFL delivered so far?
13:05 mircea_popescu early on a fpga
13:05 the20year late everything else
13:05 mircea_popescu allegedly some other shit since, but it's kind of hard to get straight answers.
13:05 BingoBoingo 2020 "Does BFL make parole by February?"
13:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00091742 = 5.321 BTC [+]
13:05 mircea_popescu the people who banked on them last year aren't around anymore, if that's telling.
13:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00091166 = 4.9685 BTC [-]
13:07 ThickAsThieves they claim to be shipping the first draft of asic miners immediately
13:07 ThickAsThieves it's been almost a year since I cancelled my order for one
13:08 plambert are they going to be more effcient than other ASIC miners, or are they just the same thing everybody else has already?
13:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+]
13:10 ThickAsThieves i'm speaking of old models
13:10 ThickAsThieves 65nm
13:10 BingoBoingo plambert: I don't imagine it really makes much difference. How much difference does pouring a gallon of milk make for a river.
13:10 asciilifeform anyone notice 'blockchain.info' denominated in usd now?
13:11 ThickAsThieves BFL is basically the first scammer in line for new bitcoin enthusiasts
13:11 nubbins` asciilifeform: click on any green button that shows USD
13:11 ThickAsThieves a rite of passage
13:11 asciilifeform nubbins`: interesting
13:11 nubbins` nod
13:11 nubbins` convenient, too
13:11 ThickAsThieves oh you heard of bitcoin mining? and you dont know our rep? buy our miner!
13:12 nubbins` although not necessarily obvious :)
13:12 asciilifeform these folks are harvesting the 'ground floor' people rather well
13:12 asciilifeform i overheard my neighbours talking about dumping their savings into AM some time ago
13:12 asciilifeform real mindfuck
13:12 nubbins` so there's another blizzard heading this way
13:13 ThickAsThieves sounds like they had bad timing
13:13 nubbins` you'd be amazed at the number of people i saw at the hardware store loading up on propane.
13:13 nubbins` "you know you guys can't burn that inside, right?"
13:13 nubbins` "what do you mean?"
13:13 asciilifeform nubbins`: some have generators that run on it
13:13 nubbins` yeah, these were the camping size bottles
13:13 asciilifeform maybe laptop-sized gensets
13:13 ThickAsThieves like for lamps?
13:13 nubbins` heh!
13:14 nubbins` let's hope so
13:14 asciilifeform always wanted one of those
13:14 nubbins` i just shook my head as i purchased the last kerosene heater
13:14 asciilifeform (afaik this doesn't actually exist)
13:14 nubbins` and the last gallon of kerosene
13:15 asciilifeform i'm rather surprised those 'laptop-sized' stirling engines never caught on
13:15 asciilifeform you could run a computer on anything that combusts.
13:15 the20year which would be?
13:15 nubbins` i'd buy several of those
13:15 the20year from my understanding the cost to make one was pretty pricey
13:16 nubbins` multi-fuel systems are great
13:16 the20year compared to say photovoltaics
13:16 asciilifeform it doesn't get any simpler than a stirling engine.
13:16 nubbins` i've got a camp stove that takes kerosene, diesel, naphtha, and even unleaded gasoline
13:16 nubbins` fuckin great
13:16 asciilifeform there's a traditional schoolboy version made from aluminum can, that will run off body heat.
13:17 the20year how many watts does that produce?
13:17 asciilifeform some have... interesting... shapes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BetaStirlingTG4web.svg
13:17 asciilifeform the20year: a few mW
13:17 nubbins` HA
13:17 the20year so how many to get 50w or so?
13:17 the20year last sterling engine I saw that 'd produce 25 watts was about $500
13:19 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it always did that, you can click the bubbles to switch
13:19 asciilifeform aha.
13:19 asciilifeform there are ways to make substantially cheaper stirling engine
13:19 asciilifeform e.g. liquid pistons
13:19 asciilifeform but it remains a 'crackpot field' for some reason.
13:20 asciilifeform mainly because they're no good for vehicles
13:20 the20year the ones i've seen, by people who were supposed to be experts were all way more innefiicent and more expensive than a standard steam turbine system using a solar trough
13:20 asciilifeform (need gigantic heat exchanger if engine is moving)
13:21 nubbins` hm
13:21 nubbins` i wonder if the off-the-grid crowd uses these
13:21 the20year solar troughs are immensely cheap, very efficient, and overall great use
13:21 asciilifeform if you want to run a laptop off a candle, a micro stirling engine is probably the only way to go.
13:21 mircea_popescu <nubbins`> i've got a camp stove that takes kerosene, diesel, naphtha, and even unleaded gasoline << i used to have a car that took all that, also alcohol, toluene, etc
13:22 the20year how much does energy does said candle produce?
13:22 asciilifeform (thermoelectric cell, the seemingly-obvious solution, is laughably inefficient)
13:22 BingoBoingo I'm kind of suprised people who claim to be running mining farms aren't talking about stirling engines and heat recovery.
13:22 nubbins` mircea_popescu: amazing!
13:22 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
13:22 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: nobody cancelled laws of thermodynamics
13:22 mircea_popescu notrly. russian.
13:22 nubbins` only problem is that certain fuels are a lot dirtier, and require more maintenance
13:22 nubbins` e.g. naphtha / white gas vs unleaded petrol
13:22 mircea_popescu i don't think the concept of dirty existed in the universe this thing was made.
13:22 nubbins` heh!
13:22 nubbins` too true
13:23 asciilifeform you know, it really doesn't get much dirtier than firewood
13:23 asciilifeform and yet everybody loves it
13:23 nubbins` the real nice wood stoves have afterburners
13:23 mircea_popescu how is firewood dirty ?
13:23 asciilifeform http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-fireplace-delusion
13:23 ozbot The Fireplace Delusion : :
13:23 nubbins` soot
13:23 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Of course not, but I'm thinking such thoughts would be attractive to the mining mindset.
13:25 nubbins` hm
13:25 the20year afterburners usually take out most of the soot
13:26 nubbins` yeah
13:26 the20year typically they're extraordinarily efficient
13:26 asciilifeform the20year: your fireplace chimney has an afterburner?
13:26 nubbins` wood stoves in general are way better than fireplaces for this thing too
13:26 the20year as for cost, they can't be beat
13:26 nubbins` fireplaces are mildly retarded, although quaint
13:26 nubbins` wood stoves are the shine
13:26 the20year I don't have a fireplace in my house , next houe we have will absolutely have one. My neighbor just put one in his house though
13:26 asciilifeform phun phact: afterburner is the invention that made cremation popular in the west
13:26 nubbins` haha
13:26 nubbins` makes sense
13:27 nubbins` if you REALLY want a fireplace, get a propane one installed
13:27 asciilifeform if you burn 1-stage, the whole town gets to smell the barbeque
13:27 asciilifeform as in india.
13:27 nubbins` if you REALLY want to burn wood for heat, get a Jotul stove
13:27 nubbins` sorry
13:27 nubbins` Jøtul
13:28 asciilifeform see, quite a few people get wood stoves because they like the smell.
13:28 nubbins` heh.
13:28 the20year what heat source do you use?
13:28 nubbins` that's like smoking cigarettes because you like the smell
13:28 nubbins` the20year: i'm on electric heat here
13:28 asciilifeform the20year: heat pump
13:28 nubbins` our tenants are on oil :(
13:28 asciilifeform came with the place
13:28 the20year coal or nuke?
13:29 asciilifeform gas-fired plant, four blocks away
13:29 asciilifeform local uni built it
13:29 the20year so you use gas heat :D
13:29 nubbins` anyway, speaking of tenants, i should go pick up rent before this storm hits
13:29 asciilifeform technically, correct.
13:29 nubbins` expecting another 25cm today
13:29 the20year i don't know the name for them, but the big new wood heat here locally is a insullated box
13:30 the20year sometimes built in a hill or ditch, surrounded by dirt, that's then piped underground to your house
13:30 asciilifeform the20year: this was, afaik, invented by ww2 partizans
13:30 asciilifeform heat a dugout without smoke giving away position
13:30 the20year yeah
13:31 the20year These have afterburners/scrubbers on them, the people I know that use them are heating 2000sf+ houses with just a cord of wood per year
13:31 KRS1 i know how you feel-cold in florida today, probably 65-low 60's
13:31 KRS1 i have to put on long pants for once
13:31 asciilifeform the20year: what latitude?
13:31 the20year it's 0f here today
13:31 asciilifeform easy to heat a house that never gets cold
13:31 KRS1 26.7097° N, 80.0642° W
13:31 the20year 39.9833° N, 82.9833° W
13:32 asciilifeform if you could build with 'aerogel' insulation, you could heat the house with just your body + computer.
13:32 asciilifeform but aerogel is... $500/g?
13:32 the20year There are easier ways than that
13:32 the20year just build a underground house
13:32 asciilifeform right
13:32 the20year or a dirt house
13:32 the20year at some point , i want to bury a few connex boxes to keep temperature stable
13:32 asciilifeform here in the u.s., demilitarized missile shafts are sometimes sold
13:32 asciilifeform and are famous for the low cost of heating/cooling
13:33 the20year You can do that, or just build it yourself, rent a backhoe and spend a few days
13:33 the20year that's because once you go down about 3 feet , temperatures stabilize on a yearly basis, around 55f
13:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC [-]
13:33 the20year (Although that depends on your location in the US)
13:33 asciilifeform who wouldn't love a house with a 200T door.
13:33 the20year Here in Ohio, even during the winter, all you need to do is dig a 5ft hole, install some plexiglass over the top of it, and you can grow tomatoes and such all year long
13:34 BingoBoingo A county government purchased on of the local Nike bases a while back for records storage. Mold and Mosture took out a good portion of the archived vital records.
13:34 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: nike, afaik, was surface-launched.
13:35 asciilifeform so unless you like big concrete parking lot, not sure what use it is.
13:35 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: There were the underground magazines.
13:35 asciilifeform aha
13:35 the20year nikes had pretty massive underground facilities
13:35 the20year there's one near me, completely flooded
13:35 asciilifeform they all flood if the pumps aren't working
13:35 BingoBoingo Surface launched, but lifted from the concrete vault by an elevator.
13:35 the20year pumps were shut off a long time ago
13:36 asciilifeform hence why you can buy one for considerably less than a human house
13:36 asciilifeform but there aren't any over here, sadly.
13:36 BingoBoingo That local site is now repurposed as a sewage treatment facility
13:36 the20year nice
13:36 the20year i guess a sewage plant in texas is now selling the waste as fertilizer, making a ton off it
13:36 KRS1 aerogel is badass i wanted to buy some of it
13:37 asciilifeform KRS1: afaik it still holds the record for unit cost / gram (other than weird biologicals)
13:39 asciilifeform http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aerogelflower_filtered.jpg
13:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05 = 0.4 BTC [+]
13:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.41510909 = 4.5662 BTC [-] {4}
13:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3024 @ 0.001 = 3.024 BTC [-]
13:48 the20year Aerogel has a factor of R10 per inch
13:48 the20year It is a whopping 50% more efficient than what I buy at lowes for 50 cents a square foot
13:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00091497 = 14.6395 BTC [+] {2}
13:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
13:53 BingoBoingo Here's some pictures of Nike magazines http://themilitarystandard.com/missile/nike/sl-40_photos_2.php
13:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00091857 = 9.8287 BTC [+] {2}
13:59 asciilifeform at least one 'minuteman' still worked, it is claimed: http://www.afgsc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123374519
13:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform of course te per gram reference is deceiving. aerogel is very light
13:59 mircea_popescu by this token peacock tail feathers are probably more expensive
14:00 mircea_popescu (still used to this day in cabaret costumerie)
14:00 asciilifeform i said 'unit cost', perhaps that wasn't the correct term
14:00 asciilifeform we could breed peacocks the way chickens are bred, in theory
14:00 mircea_popescu what's a unit, you know ?
14:00 asciilifeform if someone found a really good use for the feather
14:00 asciilifeform while, afaik, no one knows how to make aerogel economically.
14:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9043 @ 0.00091166 = 8.2441 BTC [-]
14:04 asciilifeform http://themilitarystandard.com/missile/minuteman/images/pizza.jpg
14:04 the20year what's the use for aerogel if it was more economical?
14:05 asciilifeform really nice gloves?
14:07 the20year slightly thinner, slightly lighter gloves
14:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41600001 BTC [+]
14:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
14:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.416 = 0.832 BTC [-]
14:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.41 = 2.46 BTC [-] {2}
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14:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11078 @ 0.00090834 = 10.0626 BTC [-] {2}
14:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [-]
14:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11938 @ 0.00091528 = 10.9266 BTC [+] {2}
14:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 225 @ 0.001 = 0.225 BTC [-]
14:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 944 @ 0.00063485 = 0.5993 BTC [+] {3}
14:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 6036 @ 0.00060011 = 3.6223 BTC [-] {3}
14:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00091633 = 17.0896 BTC [+] {2}
15:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 47 @ 0.05 = 2.35 BTC [+]
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15:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 98 @ 0.05 = 4.9 BTC [+]
15:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.36695001 = 1.1009 BTC [-]
15:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.05 = 1.1 BTC [+]
15:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1009 @ 0.001 = 1.009 BTC [-] {3}
15:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00091946 = 5.5627 BTC [+] {2}
15:58 mircea_popescu .d
15:58 ozbot 1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 1741 blocks | Estimated Change: 4.2028% in 11d 13h 54m 24s
15:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 186 @ 0.00391725 = 0.7286 BTC [-] {7}
16:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00091813 = 17.9494 BTC [-]
16:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00091457 = 4.3899 BTC [-] {2}
16:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.05 = 0.35 BTC [+]
16:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.39999999 = 0.8 BTC [+]
16:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 79 @ 0.00295 = 0.2331 BTC [-]
16:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16862 @ 0.0009117 = 15.3731 BTC [-]
16:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1438 @ 0.00091124 = 1.3104 BTC [-]
16:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 301 @ 0.00383836 = 1.1553 BTC [-] {9}
16:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9230 @ 0.0000935 = 0.863 BTC [-]
16:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3159 @ 0.000094 = 0.2969 BTC [+]
16:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00381001 = 0.3048 BTC [-] {3}
16:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 92 @ 0.00381629 = 0.3511 BTC [+] {3}
16:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1611 @ 0.000098 = 0.1579 BTC [+]
16:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 109 @ 0.00371006 = 0.4044 BTC [-] {4}
16:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 202 @ 0.00338419 = 0.6836 BTC [-] {14}
16:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12162 @ 0.00091588 = 11.1389 BTC [+]
16:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12610 @ 0.00090805 = 11.4505 BTC [-]
16:37 BW^- bingoboingo: ok, I talked at -otc and they were almost completely unserious
16:37 BW^- bingoboingo: almost completely worthless conversation.
16:38 BW^- kakobrekla: ^
16:43 BingoBoingo How?
16:44 rbonestell I'm looking for beta testers for a Havelock portfolio Android app on Google Play- anyone?
16:54 mircea_popescu rbonestell did you manage to get anyone so far ?
16:55 rbonestell I have 5 people testing it right now- found and resolved a few issues. Went from alpha to beta, might go production in a week or so if nothing seriously is found.
16:55 rbonestell nothing serious*
16:55 mircea_popescu cool.
16:56 rbonestell http://i.imgur.com/3tFyqv9.png
16:56 rbonestell ^ screenshot
16:56 pankkake shouldn't the triangles be down if - ?
16:59 Jere_Jones Maybe it is the symbol for delta and not a triangle
16:59 rbonestell yeah, that's delta
16:59 pankkake yeah, I realized after, but it confuses my eyes :)
17:00 rbonestell :D
17:00 rbonestell I could change it to Profit (or Loss) %
17:01 ll_ i think the +/- is enough to an idea
17:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+]
17:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5004 @ 0.00091114 = 4.5593 BTC [+]
17:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4987 @ 0.00091114 = 4.5439 BTC [+]
17:13 rbonestell mircea_popescu: Are you interested in participating in the beta?
17:19 mircea_popescu i don't have a smartphone thingee
17:19 mircea_popescu was just curious.
17:20 rbonestell oh, ok. :D
17:20 asciilifeform wait - i thought 'havelock' was an evil spam exchange?
17:21 rbonestell Havelock Investments, or is havelock a code name for something else too?
17:21 asciilifeform it.
17:22 asciilifeform didn't they let some bastard take his shareholder piggy and run off, or was that somebody else ?
17:24 jurov yes that was virtex
17:26 jurov and i'm really curious how would mircea prevent someone pulling the same on mpex
17:28 jurov or how would your shitcoins help there, for that matter, asciilifeform
17:29 mircea_popescu jurov prevent is aptly named for what it does : afore, not after the fact.
17:31 jurov but how? iirc shit already almost happened with bitvps
17:32 mircea_popescu well but how. if i could put it in a pill we could all start exchanges and reddit's dream of progress and equality could finally be realised.
17:32 jurov :)
17:32 nubbins` but if everyone is equal, the people who want to be better than others will be sad
17:32 nubbins` :(
17:33 mircea_popescu from experience, the people who aren't ever sad are the people who are better than others.
17:33 rbonestell that's some deep stuff
17:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 36 @ 0.13155555 = 4.736 BTC [+] {5}
17:34 jurov that definition seems uncomfortably close to one of sociopath
17:35 nubbins` HEH
17:35 nubbins` storm's picking up, i'm thinking that tomorrow i'll have to shovel out the windows again
17:35 mircea_popescu nubbins` you make canada sound like so much fun
17:36 mircea_popescu jurov which definition of sociopath do you work on ?
17:36 nubbins` yeah, it's great if you like cold
17:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 19 @ 0.13589464 = 2.582 BTC [+] {2}
17:36 nubbins` we've had rolling blackouts the past two days
17:36 nubbins` i haven't lost power here yet
17:36 mircea_popescu possibly the most abused term in current english, sort-of like "christian" and "intellectual" rolled into one.
17:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00091336 = 11.0517 BTC [+] {3}
17:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1358999 BTC [+]
17:37 jurov "complete disregard of rights of others"
17:38 mircea_popescu now how does that get wedged into hapiness and superiority ?
17:38 jurov i don't see how one can avoid some sadness when thinking about others
17:39 mircea_popescu one'd have to care.
17:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00090643 = 13.5058 BTC [-] {4}
17:39 mircea_popescu do the others have a right that requires EVERYONE to care about them ?
17:40 jurov now how does that get wedged into hapiness and superiority ?
17:40 mircea_popescu some dork is better than you and perfectly happy.
17:41 mircea_popescu and he doesn't care that you're neither happy nor any good
17:42 jurov if such dork is my boss, it's his loss then
17:42 mircea_popescu perhaps.
17:43 mircea_popescu by design it's a loss he can easily cope with : you've only one boss, he presumably has many employees.
17:43 mircea_popescu so reasonably, it'd be your loss, mostly.
17:43 nubbins` loss is relative
17:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00378838 = 0.1402 BTC [+] {7}
17:44 jurov not going to compare who's more at loss here
17:45 mircea_popescu but that aside, how do rights enter into any of it ?
17:45 jurov my point is not caring means loss for both parties
17:45 jurov where did i speak about rights?
17:45 mircea_popescu this is flat out nonsense. i don't care about most of the ~10 bn extras the earth is carrying.
17:45 mircea_popescu you presume this counts as any sort of loss ?
17:46 mircea_popescu there's millions of little noises my ears filter out. i lose something when i'm deaf to entropic noise ?
17:46 mircea_popescu <jurov> "complete disregard of rights of others" <
17:49 jurov okay
17:49 jurov i'm tired today :(
17:49 jurov fuck that
17:49 mircea_popescu lolk
17:51 jurov anyway, i don't see why it shouldn't be a right that at least someone should care. of course not everyone.
17:51 jurov but that looks like exactly such a good intention that paves the road to hell
17:52 mircea_popescu some proposition doesn't become a right just as soon as someone somehwere doesn't see why it shouldn't be, that's why
17:52 mircea_popescu what's this, the 70s ?
17:52 mircea_popescu it only becomes a right once you are actually willing to die for it.
17:53 mircea_popescu (which indeed implies that the unwilling to die have no rights)
17:54 jurov well, quite a few people died because they have seen it as only possibility for someone to care
17:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 51 @ 0.003239 = 0.1652 BTC [-]
17:56 mircea_popescu i think that's a different trope
17:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 18 @ 0.1358999 = 2.4462 BTC [+]
17:57 mircea_popescu sounds more like herostratus.
17:57 rbonestell https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=MS
17:57 rbonestell ...
18:06 mircea_popescu "I resent being an artist, in that respect, I resent performing for fucking idiots who don't know anything. They can't feel. I’m the one that’s feeling, because I’m the one that is expressing."
18:06 mircea_popescu giving away a slightly used, still in working condition yoko ono to whoever identifies the quote's author.
18:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.38001 = 0.76 BTC [-] {2}
18:08 BingoBoingo John Lennon, but I'm not sure I want the Yoko Ono
18:09 mircea_popescu aite, whoever has her can keep her.
18:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MG] 4992 @ 0.0001001 = 0.4997 BTC [-]
18:11 BingoBoingo Yoko just seems like one of those horrifically bad luck charms.
18:12 mircea_popescu more like a cross between zsa zsa gabor and liz taylor, managing to garner the worst parts of both
18:13 mircea_popescu short tempered, vain yet totally incompetent fuckwit
18:13 BingoBoingo Right. The sort of gift you give when you want to ruin the recipient through the burden of maintaining the gift.
18:13 mircea_popescu pity she never amounted to anything in feminism, i'd much rather mock her than luminaries a la that fat chick, what's her name.
18:14 BingoBoingo Lena Dunham?
18:15 mircea_popescu nah
18:16 mircea_popescu rosie mcdowell
18:16 mircea_popescu no wait
18:17 mircea_popescu rosie what the fuck
18:17 BingoBoingo Ah. O'Donnel
18:17 mircea_popescu Rosie O'Donnell yeah
18:17 jborkl Luke reported the hashfast machine is at ...20gh
18:18 BingoBoingo jborkl: Is Luke still qualified to report these things?
18:18 jborkl Good question. But other reports are similar
18:19 pankkake rosie o'donnell looks like she got surprise buttsex in almost all her pics
18:19 mircea_popescu is this the 400 gh thing ?
18:19 jborkl Yes
18:19 mircea_popescu ...
18:19 mircea_popescu this must be some luke-ish thing, who knows what exact narrow formalism required
18:20 mircea_popescu or in other words, this'd be the first time someone fails 95% in electronics. how, even
18:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0029685 = 0.1484 BTC [+]
18:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+]
18:26 pankkake "Yes, my mistake/misunderstanding: the unit I received is apparently an engineering sample."
18:26 mircea_popescu lol
18:32 KRS1 ya that storm nubbins is in is like 3/4 of the way to a real fuckup
18:32 KRS1 its even cold here in florida because of it, a long way from Canada
18:35 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/newfoundland-rolling-blackouts-to-continue-into-saturday-1.2482587
18:36 ozbot Newfoundland rolling blackouts to continue into Saturday - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
18:36 nubbins` not sure if they forgot to black us out, or if we're on the same circuit as the fire station
18:39 deadweasel stay warm nubs!
18:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.4144442 = 3.73 BTC [+] {6}
18:51 pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=396991.0 Automatic Altcoin Generator
18:51 ozbot [ANN] Automatic Altcoin Generator
18:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.43 = 2.15 BTC [+]
18:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3000 @ 0.001 = 3 BTC [+]
18:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1093 @ 0.001 = 1.093 BTC [+]
18:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+]
19:00 asciilifeform re: 400: 'for your convenience, we have packaged the defective ones separately.'
19:02 asciilifeform (legend re: american company buying the first japanese transistors; in the u.s. at the time it was customary to request '5% defectives' or whatnot; factory didn't test.'
19:02 asciilifeform reply came: 'we don't know why you need defective transistors, but for your convenience...'
19:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8243 @ 0.000098 = 0.8078 BTC [+]
19:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00090795 = 20.5651 BTC [+] {2}
19:23 KRS1 they finally did it, thanks to coingen..wtf is this world coming to
19:23 KRS1 childporncoin
19:23 KRS1 Waiting for 6 confirmations of 0.01 BTC sent to 1BinEbueZ44eVznbLhDzhuV88DQYaS8ULn
19:24 KRS1 here's one worth investing in..it can't possibly be a scamcoin:
19:25 KRS1 notascamcoin
19:25 KRS1 Waiting for 6 confirmations of 0.01 BTC sent to 18wc1Murq4p8EvZb3uJT4BLkF7hGTW5cZQ
19:26 mircea_popescu cuntcoin ?
19:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16069 @ 0.00090545 = 14.5497 BTC [-] {2}
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19:54 assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P050N] 9 @ 0.03132708 = 0.2819 BTC [-]
19:55 assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C155N] 10 @ 0.03547657 = 0.3548 BTC
20:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.00372333 = 0.4468 BTC [-] {2}
20:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.42699878 = 4.27 BTC [-] {5}
20:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.00385369 = 0.104 BTC [+] {3}
20:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.0028914 = 0.3903 BTC [-] {2}
20:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00090879 = 4.4531 BTC [+]
20:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00288813 = 0.1097 BTC [-] {2}
20:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00090951 = 9.4134 BTC [+] {2}
20:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00288569 = 0.2857 BTC [-] {2}
20:10 pankkake BingoBoingo: for your blog https://www.smore.com/clippy-js
20:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00287224 = 0.2585 BTC [-] {2}
20:12 truffles awww clippy
20:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00090455 = 10.8546 BTC [-] {2}
20:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.00287006 = 0.2382 BTC [-] {2}
20:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 108 @ 0.001 = 0.108 BTC [+]
20:25 KRS1 LOL Gale goes off on this video.. Go Gale Go Gale
20:25 KRS1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wugY6HNLOCo
20:25 ozbot Gale whole song from Breaking Bad - YouTube
20:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8702 @ 0.00091102 = 7.9277 BTC [+] {2}
20:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.43739989 = 0.8748 BTC [+]
20:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.43744899 = 0.8749 BTC [+] {2}
20:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 56 @ 0.02166069 = 1.213 BTC [+] {4}
20:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 385 @ 0.000948 = 0.365 BTC [-]
20:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 117 @ 0.000949 = 0.111 BTC [+]
20:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.0009044 = 10.8076 BTC [-]
20:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.0041003 = 0.1599 BTC [-] {3}
20:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.002 = 0.2 BTC [+]
20:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43749 BTC [+]
20:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.43749999 = 0.875 BTC [+] {2}
21:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.05 = 2 BTC [+]
21:19 nubbins` here's a particularly lucid snippet from a commentor on a cbc.ca article about the storm
21:19 nubbins` "wood stove lots of water freezer full.Bring it on..if power goes out put the food on the deck in sealed boxes lots of Rum"
21:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+]
21:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.43833326 = 5.26 BTC [+] {4}
21:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43999799 BTC [+]
21:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2624 @ 0.001 = 2.624 BTC [+]
21:45 benkay why even run a freezer in the winter out there?
21:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.0009043 = 12.7506 BTC [-] {2}
21:46 pankkake http://www.campusbasement.com/uploads/6-feet-of-snow-in-door-serves-as-beer-fridge-1305520635.jpg
21:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.02298999 = 0.5977 BTC [+] {4}
21:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00090366 = 9.6692 BTC [-] {2}
21:53 nubbins` pankkake: judging by the brand of beer, that could very well have been taken here :P
21:54 nubbins` i had three feet in my doorway earlier when i went to the store. shovelled it all. checked an hour ago, just as much there again
21:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 567 @ 0.00401187 = 2.2747 BTC [-] {5}
21:58 truffles oh ure not used to snow huh, how exciting
21:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.42500601 = 0.85 BTC [-] {2}
22:04 nubbins` i'm used to it, just not this much :(
22:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42003203 BTC [-]
22:16 BingoBoingo nubbins`: I'll give you .1 BTC if you can catch all of the snow and prevent it from getting here tomorrow night.
22:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 122 @ 0.001 = 0.122 BTC [-]
22:17 nubbins` it's heading east, i think it will be over the atlantic tomorrow night :)
22:23 BingoBoingo nubbins`: You may have to move a bit south and west then to intercept
22:24 nubbins` heh
22:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00090321 = 12.0579 BTC [-]
22:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42001022 BTC [-]
22:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00090289 = 14.4914 BTC [-] {2}
22:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42002002 BTC [+]
22:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC [+]
22:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.43999798 = 1.76 BTC [+]
22:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42003002 BTC [-]
22:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42002002 BTC [-]
22:43 KRS1 send some down to florida..its chilly here but we're expecting 80's again soon
22:43 KRS1 so sick of the heat
22:44 KRS1 actually your storm is the only reason we're chilly today
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23:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 30 @ 0.023 = 0.69 BTC [+]
23:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00090124 = 7.7507 BTC [-]
23:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.44405504 = 22.2028 BTC [+] {12}
23:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 55 @ 0.45852545 = 25.2189 BTC [+] {5}
23:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44001 = 0.88 BTC [-] {2}
23:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00432084 = 0.6481 BTC [+] {5}
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