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← 2013-11-15 | 2013-11-17 → ↓
00:00 mircea_popescu nubbins` no, because he's all like "let's be reasonable" and "save the kids"
00:00 mircea_popescu what 19 yo ever gives a shit that a bunch of other 20 yos are off to gaol
00:00 mircea_popescu you gotta be fucking old to have forgotten that you can make a kid replacement in half an hour and it'll be fun, so who the fuck cares.
00:01 mircea_popescu and also, macs are for artsy fags who can't code
00:01 mircea_popescu and what kako said
00:01 mircea_popescu and furthermore.
00:01 asciilifeform now if only Tadpole (maker of SPARC laptops) hadn't croaked.
00:02 nubbins` but i can code ;(
00:02 nubbins` furthermore, Xcode has top-tier debugging tools
00:02 nubbins` objective-c is a piece of shit language, mind you
00:03 mircea_popescu this holy war is going poorly.
00:04 nubbins` show me one that hasn't!
00:04 mircea_popescu yuou kidding ? most of the early ones went great, you could destroy a chan for ten days with one.
00:05 nubbins` if some christian guy said "seriously guys, it's really wine now, try it, it's really good", and it turns out he's right, actual holy wars would be pretty impotent affairs as well
00:05 nubbins` best i've got so far is "macs r 4 fags"
00:05 nubbins` you guys aren't even trying ;(
00:06 asciilifeform suppose i should throw this oldie in: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=132
00:06 mircea_popescu holy wars work not because anyone tries, but because everyone involved makes the effort to interpret what's said so as to offend him
00:06 mircea_popescu YOU are not trying.
00:08 asciilifeform (300,000+ page views, many from angry fanbois, on that one)
00:08 nubbins` asciilifeform: people underestimate the OS maker having 100% control over the hardware
00:09 nubbins` anyone who doesn't use a macbook as their primary laptop is a fucking idiot
00:09 asciilifeform quoting mr. jobs: 'we're gonna take unfair advantage of the fact that we control the whole device.'
00:09 mircea_popescu what's a primary laptop
00:09 mircea_popescu i fucking hate the things
00:09 nubbins` y'know, we all have 5 laptops
00:09 asciilifeform mine gets powered up once every business quarter or so.
00:10 nubbins` this "walled garden" thing is a real yawn, too
00:10 mircea_popescu Herpes Virus Found on Library Copies of 'Fifty Shades of Grey'
00:10 nubbins` people acting like they never bought a video game console
00:10 kakobrekla fun fact, mine is on 24/7, literally.
00:10 asciilifeform i never once did.
00:11 kakobrekla i dont see whats wrong with them
00:11 asciilifeform actually, that's a lie. bought a 'virtual boy' once - to cannibalize for the optics.
00:11 nubbins` asciilifeform: you're in the rare position of being allowed to complain about walled gardens
00:11 mircea_popescu i never bought a video game either.
00:11 mircea_popescu not even a game boy
00:11 mircea_popescu i always played on the pc, and was chair of the "mock the game console faggots" pc gamer club
00:12 nubbins` heh
00:12 mircea_popescu (and the z80 before the pc, which i suppose could be argued to be a gaming console,
00:12 mircea_popescu in that gaming consoles at the time were also z80 clones)
00:12 nubbins` consoles could never pull off the greats, like the incredible machine
00:12 nubbins` lemmings, even
00:12 mircea_popescu consoles sucked because no kbd
00:12 nubbins` nod
00:12 mircea_popescu i'd have tried it if it had a kbd. but joystick ?
00:12 mircea_popescu i have to this day never used one.
00:12 nubbins` the fuck you gonna do with a joystick
00:13 mircea_popescu esp if you're not a girl./
00:13 asciilifeform perhaps it's not fair, but i hold consoles responsible for the extinction of "thinking man's" games
00:13 nubbins` inorite?
00:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nah, school did that.
00:13 nubbins` well, again, you could never pull off the incredible machine on a console
00:13 asciilifeform or even 'zork'
00:13 mircea_popescu or heroes.
00:13 mircea_popescu i can imagine how fucking awkward that'd have been
00:14 mircea_popescu and mind, 3do was in fact a console maker
00:14 asciilifeform the one that cost what a high-end pc of the time did?
00:15 nubbins` it was what, $700 in 1995?
00:15 mircea_popescu yep
00:15 mircea_popescu that was the other thing, pc = spend 500, upgrade it by parts, games free
00:16 mircea_popescu console = spend > 500, upgrade it in > 500 at a time increments, games cost more than the unit
00:16 mircea_popescu and if you upgrade you lost all your old shit.
00:16 asciilifeform i remember, as a kid, finding out about consoles and that other boys had... countably small! collections of games
00:16 asciilifeform which they had to wheedle actual money to pay for
00:17 mircea_popescu isn't that a shocker.
00:17 nubbins` imagine
00:17 mircea_popescu "if you're that stupid perhaps you wish to buy the right to suck my cock at my option ?"
00:17 nubbins` i think i was in grade 7 before the idea of mod chips became known
00:17 asciilifeform "limited time 20% discount per liter!"
00:19 asciilifeform funny thing is, with basic rom-diddling equipment being a dime a dozen now, classic consoles are a great place to learn to program a 'real computer'
00:19 asciilifeform (that is, one where you actually control the machine.)
00:19 mircea_popescu interestng
00:19 mircea_popescu basically it all turned around huh.
00:20 asciilifeform free, even. (emulation)
00:20 asciilifeform not that many people take advantage of this.
00:20 asciilifeform but a chum of mine confessed to writing 'classic nintendo' stuff.
00:21 mircea_popescu i remember how indignant i was that dune 2 did no bounds checking
00:21 mircea_popescu so you could end up breaking the credits counter
00:22 nubbins` ha
00:22 nubbins` y'know, sega really pulled a nice one with the sonic the hedgehog series
00:23 nubbins` they built all of these secret areas into sonic 2 and 3
00:23 mircea_popescu i was never one for scrollers.
00:23 nubbins` and then released a "sonic & knuckles" cartridge that you could insert sonic 2/3 into
00:23 nubbins` creating this massive cartridge
00:23 nubbins` and letting you play the older games with a new character, unlocking all these previously off-limits areas
00:25 mircea_popescu interesting
00:26 nubbins` http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/fellleg/PC118016.jpg
00:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 750 @ 0.00196401 = 1.473 BTC [-] {5}
00:28 nubbins` game genie was pretty rad
00:29 nubbins` poke random integers into the game code in the hopes that you'd endow yourself with unlimited lives or super-jumps
00:31 dexX7 dune 2 haha.. nice.
00:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.12500003 = 0.25 BTC [+]
00:32 mircea_popescu dune 2. it was the mother of all warcrafts.
00:41 mircea_popescu "People who think there is a difference between wikipedia and erepublic/conquiztador are pretty lel"
00:42 mircea_popescu is that you nubbins` ?
00:42 nubbins` :0 nope
00:42 nubbins` it must be spreading
00:43 mircea_popescu srsly.
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01:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.632 BTC [+]
01:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2232 @ 0.00013705 = 0.3059 BTC [-]
01:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6328 = 3.164 BTC [+]
01:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6328 = 2.5312 BTC [+]
01:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2737 @ 0.00013706 = 0.3751 BTC [+]
01:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 999 @ 0.00104005 = 1.039 BTC [-]
01:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.28489998 = 0.5698 BTC [-] {2}
01:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.37999999 BTC [-]
01:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 120 @ 0.00104477 = 0.1254 BTC [+]
01:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12855 @ 0.00082195 = 10.5662 BTC [-] {2}
01:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3345 @ 0.00082151 = 2.748 BTC [-]
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01:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00188444 = 0.1036 BTC [-] {2}
01:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 124 @ 0.00400097 = 0.4961 BTC [-] {2}
01:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 21 @ 0.04459999 = 0.9366 BTC [+]
01:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 96 @ 0.00104477 = 0.1003 BTC [+]
02:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.15749983 = 0.315 BTC [+]
02:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 3 @ 0.04459999 = 0.1338 BTC [+]
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02:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 35 @ 0.00400001 = 0.14 BTC [-] {2}
02:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00083306 = 3.9154 BTC [+]
02:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 144 @ 0.00104477 = 0.1504 BTC [+]
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03:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00083325 = 7.9159 BTC [+] {2}
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03:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8281 @ 0.00082121 = 6.8004 BTC [-] {2}
03:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63279 BTC [-]
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03:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.0445 = 0.178 BTC [-]
03:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.0445 = 0.4895 BTC [-] {2}
03:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.0445 = 0.445 BTC [-]
04:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4900 @ 0.00014 = 0.686 BTC [+]
04:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.0445 = 0.2225 BTC [-]
04:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.0445 = 0.5785 BTC [-]
04:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1363 @ 0.00083191 = 1.1339 BTC [+]
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04:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2923 @ 0.00082514 = 2.4119 BTC [-]
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05:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8592 @ 0.00014 = 1.2029 BTC [+]
05:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 1 @ 0.15300001 BTC [-]
05:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 1 @ 0.15300001 BTC [-]
05:59 freeroute Ukto: hi, I have a question about Bitfunder. I still have some funds on there, but it says that minimum withdraw amount is 0.1 BTC. So will the amount I have on my account get credited to my public address?
06:09 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
06:09 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 467.00004, Best ask: 470.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.99996, Last trade: 467.00003, 24 hour volume: 29862.90490637, 24 hour low: 413.05, 24 hour high: 471.5, 24 hour vwap: 442.21295
06:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 1 @ 0.15300001 BTC [-]
06:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 1 @ 0.15300001 BTC [-]
06:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 1 @ 0.15300001 BTC [-]
06:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61200003 BTC [-]
06:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.61175001 = 2.447 BTC [-] {3}
06:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.61100002 = 2.444 BTC [-]
06:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.611 BTC [-]
06:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 1 @ 0.15300001 BTC [-]
06:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 1 @ 0.15300001 BTC [-]
06:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 1 @ 0.15300001 BTC [-]
06:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00082412 = 5.398 BTC [-] {2}
06:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.15300001 = 0.306 BTC [-] {2}
06:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.15300001 = 0.306 BTC [-] {2}
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07:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 750 @ 0.0001382 = 0.1037 BTC [-]
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07:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.56061000 BTC to 1`121`220 shares, 50 satoshi per share
08:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 3 @ 0.0445 = 0.1335 BTC [-]
08:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 937 @ 0.00082829 = 0.7761 BTC [+]
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08:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0058669 = 0.1467 BTC [+]
08:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 153 @ 0.001031 = 0.1577 BTC [-] {5}
08:58 benkay shit is officially weird, yo
08:58 benkay i dreamt about the cast of -assets last night
09:03 ThickAsThieves that is weird
09:04 ThickAsThieves i dont dream about work type stuff much
09:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8382 @ 0.00083469 = 6.9964 BTC [+] {3}
09:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 686 @ 0.001904 = 1.3061 BTC [-] {3}
09:15 benkay ;;ident Ukto
09:15 gribble Nick 'Ukto', with hostmask 'Ukto!~Kami-Sama@unaffiliated/ukto', is not identified.
09:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 426 @ 0.00102386 = 0.4362 BTC [-] {8}
09:30 mircea_popescu http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/15/man-spites-ex-wife-in-the-one-of-the-most-elaborate-expensive-ways-imaginable/
09:30 ozbot Man Spites His Ex-Wife in the One of the Most Elaborate, Expensive Ways Imaginable | TheBlaze.com
09:31 benkay lights it at night
09:32 benkay dem slovakian babes
09:32 mircea_popescu olo
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09:59 benkay on the topic of that part of the world, and women: www.returnofkings.com/16728/russian-girls-are-all-whores
10:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-]
10:08 mircea_popescu no they're not.
10:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.603 = 1.206 BTC [-] {2}
10:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 600 @ 0.00104462 = 0.6268 BTC [+] {4}
10:14 benkay that is the article's point.
10:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00083034 = 9.1337 BTC [-] {2}
10:15 benkay ;;later tell coinflow fix mpex charts plz
10:15 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:16 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
10:16 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 463.2, Best ask: 466.63999, Bid-ask spread: 3.43999, Last trade: 466.63999, 24 hour volume: 29806.70653398, 24 hour low: 413.05, 24 hour high: 477.0, 24 hour vwap: 444.04291
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10:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 8 @ 0.13829999 = 1.1064 BTC [+] {3}
10:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 127 @ 0.00104464 = 0.1327 BTC [+] {3}
10:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082809 = 3.3124 BTC [-] {2}
10:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60170002 BTC [-]
11:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 187 @ 0.00579999 = 1.0846 BTC [-] {3}
11:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 669 @ 0.00104331 = 0.698 BTC [-] {5}
11:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3108 @ 0.0010445 = 3.2463 BTC [+] {7}
11:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 443 @ 0.00103399 = 0.4581 BTC [-] {3}
11:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 40000 @ 0.00014 = 5.6 BTC [+]
11:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6883 @ 0.00083308 = 5.7341 BTC [+] {2}
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12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 22 @ 0.0444909 = 0.9788 BTC [-] {4}
12:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 99 @ 0.001043 = 0.1033 BTC [-]
12:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1337 @ 0.00104476 = 1.3968 BTC [+] {3}
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12:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.28487875 = 2.279 BTC [-] {2}
13:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00083389 = 6.5877 BTC [+] {2}
13:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.00584779 = 0.4152 BTC [+] {3}
13:25 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/rng-board-is-here-cute-shirts-bonus/
13:25 ozbot RNG board is here ; cute shirts bonus pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
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13:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60170003 BTC [+]
13:59 mircea_popescu "I am an executive assistant by profession, but I have worked as a stripper and escort in the US."
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13:59 mircea_popescu sounds about right.
14:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.28488 = 0.5698 BTC [+]
14:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.628 BTC [+]
14:01 mircea_popescu ahahaha! kakobrekla get a load of this one :
14:02 mircea_popescu "I seem to remember you and ciuciu had several arguments on this forum. I'm trying to track him down and looking for info about him as he scammed the members of ASIC.COOP. Can you confirm his name is Nicolae Serbanescu?"
14:02 mircea_popescu the douche WAS romanian.
14:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5448 @ 0.00083307 = 4.5386 BTC [-]
14:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00014 = 0.35 BTC [+]
14:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 112 @ 0.00103664 = 0.1161 BTC [-] {5}
14:28 kakobrekla oh wow
14:29 kakobrekla but his supposed romanian name is not confirmed is it
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14:48 mircea_popescu not afaik
14:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.0008279 = 3.9739 BTC [-]
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15:25 thestringpuller !ticker m ^OIX
15:25 assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
15:26 thestringpuller ;;ticker
15:26 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 459.011, Best ask: 461.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.98900, Last trade: 461.0, 24 hour volume: 26394.47954043, 24 hour low: 413.05, 24 hour high: 477.0, 24 hour vwap: 445.1446
15:26 thestringpuller clear
15:26 thestringpuller ls
15:26 thestringpuller top
15:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 481 @ 0.00190001 = 0.9139 BTC [-] {3}
15:36 benkay thestringpuller: irc don't work like that
15:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4986 @ 0.00082982 = 4.1375 BTC [+] {2}
15:50 benkay ;;ticker --market all
15:51 gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 461.989, vol: 26200.78516763 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 431.5, vol: 25195.69921728 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 20095.7456 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 432.49, vol: 7905.81538502 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 423.0, vol: 495.5216828 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 454.625922, vol: 45453.03400000 | Volume-weighted last average: 444.444051078
16:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00083233 = 4.5778 BTC [+] {2}
16:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7640 @ 0.0001388 = 1.0604 BTC [-] {2}
16:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6018 BTC [-]
16:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.60170001 = 12.034 BTC [-] {3}
16:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.6014 = 9.6224 BTC [-]
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16:35 Kleeck .d
16:35 ozbot 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 148 blocks | Estimated Change: 17.0422% in 0d 20h 19m 49s
16:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00083338 = 2.2918 BTC [+] {2}
16:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.6014 = 3.6084 BTC [-]
16:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 859 @ 0.00013501 = 0.116 BTC [-] {6}
16:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15190 @ 0.000134 = 2.0355 BTC [-]
17:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 196 @ 0.00206009 = 0.4038 BTC [+] {6}
17:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 186 @ 0.00217659 = 0.4048 BTC [+] {3}
17:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.0058399 = 0.111 BTC [+]
17:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6014 = 1.2028 BTC [-]
17:23 Bunnyh can i send multiple transactions to a bitbet betting address so that they'll all be counted as valid bets (with different weights)?
17:24 thestringpuller no
17:24 thestringpuller use different addresses mr. lazy
17:25 thestringpuller ;;ticker
17:25 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 462.81796, Best ask: 467.995, Bid-ask spread: 5.17704, Last trade: 467.995, 24 hour volume: 21432.43325140, 24 hour low: 416.39, 24 hour high: 477.0, 24 hour vwap: 452.285
17:25 assbot 123!
17:25 thestringpuller !ticker s.mpoe
17:25 assbot Stupid fucking white man.
17:25 thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe
17:25 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00080854 / 0.00082919 / 0.00083757 (149968 shares, 124.35 BTC), 7D: 0.00080854 / 0.00083617 / 0.00088996 (1235791 shares, 1,033.34 BTC), 30D: 0.00080585 / 0.00082961 / 0.00088996 (3080543 shares, 2,555.66 BTC)
17:25 thestringpuller ls
17:25 Bunnyh ok, thanks. maybe that should be in the faq?
17:26 thestringpuller It's self evident though
17:26 thestringpuller multiple addresses wil always work for different weights
17:26 thestringpuller it's pretty trivial
17:32 jurov thestringpuller: afaik it's completely okay to send multiple times to same bitbet addy
17:32 jurov i have done it and remember kako sayin it's a feature
17:33 jurov ofc all rules apply
17:34 jurov Bunnyh ^
17:34 Bunnyh i'll try with a small amount, sounds like a useful feature at least
17:35 thestringpuller i just trollin
17:35 thestringpuller i just use multiple addie's
17:35 kakobrekla yeah you can use the same one as many times as you want
17:36 kakobrekla its active as long as bets are accepted
17:36 kakobrekla the whole idea is that you use one address for all your bets
17:37 kakobrekla and change it from time to time if you think your identitiy is compromised
17:37 thestringpuller is there a bet about whether or not they will make ulricht disclose his wallet passphrase?
17:37 kakobrekla but it will make it a lot easier to follow your own bets if you use same one
17:37 Bunnyh do all the payouts come as a single transaction too for each output address? so if i bet 1 BTC + 0.01 BTC and win, i won't get 1.something and a dust transaction back?
17:37 thestringpuller or w/e his name is
17:37 kakobrekla Bunnyh no they are sent as 1
17:38 Bunnyh ok, that's good
17:38 thestringpuller .d
17:38 kakobrekla ofc is good, i made it!
17:38 thestringpuller ;;diff
17:38 gribble 5.109297380161518E8
17:38 thestringpuller ;;estimate
17:38 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 599056056.935 based on data since last change | 663480101.004 based on data for last three days
17:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.28486999 BTC [-]
17:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00083497 = 2.8389 BTC [+] {2}
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18:07 pankkake ;;seen TradeFortress
18:07 gribble TradeFortress was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 12 hours, and 49 seconds ago: <TradeFortress> I especially love their 64 (?) core servers when the deadlock is probably db locking.
18:07 kakobrekla some imposter or the real thing?
18:09 pankkake is there a difference?
18:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.28653894 = 2.8654 BTC [+] {5}
18:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.29159999 = 1.458 BTC [+] {2}
18:13 thestringpuller ls
18:13 thestringpuller pankkake: comment t'allez vous?
18:14 pankkake ça va bien, et toi ?
18:15 thestringpuller je suis fatigue
18:16 thestringpuller Ce qui est nouveau?
18:16 Namworld zut... le monde icitte, y parlent francais astheure
18:16 thestringpuller j'ai oublie tu es francais...
18:17 pankkake pire, québécois ?
18:17 thestringpuller eeh tu es canadian*
18:17 thestringpuller :D
18:18 Namworld Aye
18:23 nubbins` hi
18:23 pankkake bonsoir
18:24 nubbins` good to see those nsa shirts getting some use
18:24 truffles allo
18:24 pankkake any dark ones planned?
18:24 nubbins` you'd have to ask mp
18:26 nubbins` we printed some sweet zines today, check it out
18:26 nubbins` http://imgur.com/4j2W6rr
18:26 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
18:26 nubbins` you buy two, you get an original drawing
18:27 truffles whats fantasma?
18:27 nubbins` spanish for "ghost"
18:27 nubbins` or so i'm told
18:28 truffles weird stuff that is
18:29 nubbins` nod
18:29 nubbins` you should see the insides
18:29 truffles doesnt fit my idea of art..
18:29 nubbins` maybe you shouldn't see the insides, then
18:30 truffles nah
18:31 pankkake I've seen worse from spaniards!
18:31 nubbins` you know not all those who speak spanish are spaniards ;)
18:34 deadweasel giant acorn squash stuffed with apple pear wild rice bacon carmelized onion..... not sure if I should add cheese?
18:34 deadweasel probably not.
18:34 deadweasel :D
18:34 truffles pic?
18:34 truffles thats an odd mix
18:35 deadweasel it's what I had
18:36 deadweasel honey and light cinnamon too.. wish I had maple syrup.
18:37 thestringpuller intereseting
18:37 thestringpuller !ticker havelock AM1
18:37 assbot [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.60140000 / 0.60974533 / 0.63280000 (77 shares, 46.95039046 BTC), 7D: 0.39999999 / 0.60570547 / 0.73450000 (1415 shares, 857.07324217 BTC), 30D: 0.39999999 / 0.69176875 / 1.06000000 (5386 shares, 3725.86649462 BTC)
18:37 deadweasel http://imgur.com/EyXqMju truffles
18:37 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
18:38 deadweasel tastes like thanksgiving.
18:39 truffles sounds nice
18:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00083535 = 1.7125 BTC [+]
18:39 truffles the grains on top makes me not want to eat that heh
18:39 deadweasel wild rice is so yums
18:40 deadweasel grapes too, forgot grapes. nom
18:41 truffles why didnt u put the rice in a nice pile
18:41 truffles like in the center
18:41 pankkake looks yummy
18:49 jurov completely missed the cardano news, yay
18:50 deadweasel whatsa news?
18:50 kakobrekla apparently its near impossible to get a german make a phone call for you
18:50 kakobrekla who would have thought.
18:50 deadweasel news to me
18:50 jurov deadweasel http://trilema.com/2013/rng-board-is-here-cute-shirts-bonus/
18:51 deadweasel jurov, tks
18:51 deadweasel is there some kind of preorder line?
18:51 jurov not afaik
18:52 deadweasel thank god
18:52 jurov maybe if you register as VIP to the conference
18:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.0008365 = 7.403 BTC [+] {3}
18:52 deadweasel I'm a Representative of the International Bitcoin Assc.
18:53 deadweasel i'm sure they have my name already.
19:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.59969999 = 11.994 BTC [-] {4}
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19:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.000134 = 0.67 BTC [-] {3}
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20:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4960 @ 0.00083592 = 4.1462 BTC [-]
20:47 benkay http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-15/arizona-regulators-impose-power-grid-fees-for-solar-roofs.html
20:47 ozbot Arizona Approves Grid-Connection Fees for Solar Rooftops - Bloomberg
20:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7200 @ 0.0001381 = 0.9943 BTC [+] {6}
20:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 11 @ 0.1600909 = 1.761 BTC [+] {2}
20:54 benkay communism requires such contortions of its adherents.
20:54 benkay "putting solar panels on your roof puts an unfair cost onto your neighbors without solar panels"
20:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 172 @ 0.00560999 = 0.9649 BTC [-] {6}
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 412 @ 0.00551201 = 2.2709 BTC [-] {7}
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21:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 3 @ 0.04444888 = 0.1333 BTC [+]
21:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.04444899 = 0.2667 BTC [+] {2}
21:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 23 @ 0.044449 = 1.0223 BTC [+]
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22:06 mod6 just fyi: made a new biotter shell script (for air gapped hosts) https://github.com/modsix/bitotter_ag
22:06 mod6 *bitotter
22:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00083146 = 9.2292 BTC [-]
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22:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.0055232 = 0.1988 BTC [+]
22:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00552205 = 0.8283 BTC [-] {5}
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23:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 850 @ 0.00221496 = 1.8827 BTC [+] {5}
23:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00014 = 0.28 BTC [+]
23:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.044449 = 0.4889 BTC [+]
23:14 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
23:14 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 478.5, Best ask: 480.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 478.5, 24 hour volume: 17334.66243635, 24 hour low: 441.44499, 24 hour high: 480.0, 24 hour vwap: 462.53993
23:14 Diablo-D3 wat.
23:19 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
23:19 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 478.72, Best ask: 479.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.18000, Last trade: 478.72, 24 hour volume: 17246.82217970, 24 hour low: 441.44499, 24 hour high: 480.0, 24 hour vwap: 462.63227
23:19 mircea_popescu ahh, good morning assets
23:20 mircea_popescu how do all you millionaires feel this fine sunday ?
23:29 mod6 :]
23:29 mod6 how are you doin?
23:29 mircea_popescu heeh. just dandy.
23:31 mod6 some really great comments on that air-gap trilema article.
23:32 mod6 the tomato soup one in particular :D
23:32 mircea_popescu >D
23:33 mircea_popescu historically trilema was actually better for the comments rthan the articles.
23:33 mircea_popescu once i switched to english this temporarily went away, but it's slowly returning.
23:33 mircea_popescu in other news, http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-15/arizona-regulators-impose-power-grid-fees-for-solar-roofs.html
23:36 mod6 what a bunch of assholes
23:37 mircea_popescu the crazy thing is... 70 cents per kw ?
23:37 mircea_popescu that's pretty damned huge.
23:38 mircea_popescu just how much DOES power cost in the us these days.
23:38 mod6 i mean seriously
23:38 asciilifeform i'm paying a tenth of that
23:38 asciilifeform depends quite heavily on the region.
23:38 mircea_popescu and unrelated : if anyone was waiting to try eulora, server is up and more or less stable
23:38 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no wait. this is for kw-month
23:38 asciilifeform Aha
23:38 mircea_popescu not kw-hour
23:38 asciilifeform ok then it's absurdly cheap
23:38 mircea_popescu ok that makes more sense wtf.
23:39 mircea_popescu so why are they so pissed that there's a ~ 0.1 cent fee per kwh ?
23:40 mircea_popescu something would have to be charged just to maintain the grid + meters + etc.
23:40 mircea_popescu “Its totally unfair to put any charge on customers that are simply reducing demand,” said Court Rich
23:40 mircea_popescu fuckwits.
23:41 asciilifeform somebody needs to fire an accountant
23:41 asciilifeform (they could've just reduced the rate paid back to the solar folks, subtracting line maintenance charge)
23:41 mod6 the power companies in az are asswads.
23:41 mircea_popescu i suppose that's federally mandated or some retarded shit.
23:41 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
23:41 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 476.60452, Best ask: 477.543, Bid-ask spread: 0.93848, Last trade: 476.60452, 24 hour volume: 17300.32234790, 24 hour low: 441.44499, 24 hour high: 481.48267, 24 hour vwap: 463.10565
23:42 mircea_popescu the us is so far from a naturally regulating market economy it's scary.
23:42 asciilifeform could've gotten the same spreadsheet, without the brouhaha
23:42 asciilifeform in a market economy, a place like Az would be inhabited by Indians only
23:43 mircea_popescu and people who like tans
23:43 mod6 its the saudi arabia of sunlight, and anyone who has solar probably figures they're "sticking it to the man" since they get paid if they push back to the grid.
23:43 asciilifeform the day the plug is pulled, it will roast. literally.
23:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.04444887 = 0.889 BTC [-] {2}
23:43 Diablo-D3 whats going to be funny is
23:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nah. adobe brick. quite pleasant.
23:43 Diablo-D3 when the grid is eventually dissassembled in az
23:43 mod6 we're being nicked and dimed here for everything in the us. and im sure people see this as just another brick in the wall.
23:44 Diablo-D3 oh wait
23:44 Diablo-D3 its 70 cents per kw installed
23:44 Diablo-D3 not kwh
23:44 asciilifeform see, when you boil frogs, trick is to use a nice temperature-controlled hob, and not a chinese unit with 'low/high/incinerate' settings on the dial.
23:44 asciilifeform people notice the jumps.
23:44 mircea_popescu arizona would probably end up in the future as a whole state's worth of solar farms + datacenters here and there.
23:44 mod6 let alone, that arizona has like horrid power company polices and rules. there are a lot of drifters who come through there, so it makes it actually hard to get power if you don't have good credit.
23:45 mod6 they literally won't give you an account.
23:45 Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu fails at datacenter engineering again
23:45 asciilifeform datacenters belong in... alaska.
23:45 mircea_popescu mod6 they can do that ?
23:45 asciilifeform thinkaboutit
23:45 Diablo-D3 mod6: I wouldnt want an account
23:45 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no because they'd fuck it up.
23:45 Diablo-D3 mod6: unless I was planning on selling to them
23:45 Diablo-D3 mod6: and if they refused me an account I would just sue them
23:45 mod6 so they give you this meter thing that plugs into the wall, and from there you have to load dollars onto a simcard in an ATM and then put that into the meter.
23:45 mircea_popescu hot shit belongs where it's hot already.
23:45 mod6 then that ticks down until you run out and have to refill it
23:45 mircea_popescu mod6 hahaha kickass. cabpower.
23:45 Diablo-D3 mod6: honestly, thats how it should work everywhere
23:46 Diablo-D3 mod6: electric companies are not banks
23:46 mod6 its such a pain the the royal ass though.
23:46 Diablo-D3 why are they loaning people money
23:46 mod6 they only have these ATMs at certain locations.
23:46 mircea_popescu well no, the deadbeat is a pain in the ass
23:46 Diablo-D3 same with telephone, internet, and cable companies
23:46 mircea_popescu company has to cut power every month
23:46 mircea_popescu i knew people like that.
23:46 Diablo-D3 mod6: well yes, they do that wrong
23:46 mod6 so you have to go out of your way to load the f'ing card to turn your lights on.
23:46 asciilifeform in the u.s., every service that lets you 'eat' even a little before mailing a bill, is thought of as 'credit'
23:46 asciilifeform e.g. phone service
23:46 Diablo-D3 it should just have a standard magstripe
23:46 mod6 the whole system down there is obnoxious
23:46 Diablo-D3 so you buy standardized gift cards for it
23:47 mircea_popescu well it is technically credit
23:47 asciilifeform there are even special phone companies for people judged unfit for credit
23:47 asciilifeform where they pay $1 a minute
23:47 mircea_popescu anyway, i have trouble seeing this bloomberg article as anything other than "we're nice, give us free shit"
23:47 mod6 seriously, it sucks a major dong down there if you have poor or no credit. its like financial apartheid
23:48 mircea_popescu mod6 just you wait until bitcoin comes into its own
23:48 mircea_popescu it's already a case of no wot, fu, you're not human.
23:48 mircea_popescu it will only get more stringent.
23:48 mod6 yah, its gonna be a whole different ball game for people. i have no idea what they're gonna do.
23:48 Diablo-D3 asciilifeform: thats not true
23:48 asciilifeform anybody seen the crackpot musical 'urinetown' ?
23:48 asciilifeform 'it's a Privilege to pee!'
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23:48 Diablo-D3 asciilifeform: I can get pay as you go plans effectively cheaper than "real" phones
23:49 mircea_popescu mod6 i imagine learn to bdsm and find masters.
23:49 asciilifeform http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/urinetown/itsaprivelegetopee.htm
23:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nope lol
23:49 Diablo-D3 but whatever
23:49 Diablo-D3 credit is a scam
23:49 Diablo-D3 everyone should strive for a low credit score
23:49 mod6 yeah, blowjobs might be the first order of business.
23:49 Diablo-D3 break the system
23:50 mircea_popescu mod6 the adsites for such weirdos are already awash in women that identify as "slaves" and will "do anything" but are looking for a monogamous, husbandy relationship.
23:50 mod6 haha.
23:50 mod6 sounds par.
23:50 mircea_popescu i guess it's been moving that way for a decade or two already. not everyone is going to sit and whine with horseface-whatshername that men are "impossible to find"
23:50 Diablo-D3 wait
23:50 Diablo-D3 where do I get these women who are slaves and will do anything
23:50 mircea_popescu some will get down to business and explore what "anything" means in that "do anything" bit.
23:50 Diablo-D3 because I want someone to clean my house
23:51 mircea_popescu probably goes the same way on the other half of the town too.
23:51 mircea_popescu certainly gay porn sets are innundated with gay for pay actors shooting stuff in their cocks to get erections.
23:52 Diablo-D3 dude
23:52 Diablo-D3 someone ban mircea_popescu please
23:52 mod6 (20:46) < mircea_popescu> well no, the deadbeat is a pain in the ass << this is true. they have a lot of drifters in az who come in and setup power and other utils and then flee before they have to pay.
23:52 mircea_popescu i guess by now about half gay pron scenes are shot 100% by actors who aren't gay.
23:52 mod6 thats how this system got to where it is now.
23:52 mircea_popescu myeah. i bet.
23:53 mod6 but, *shrug*. its certainly a royal pita if you're on the shit end of the stick.
23:53 mircea_popescu i suppose the moral is, "don't be on the shit end of the stick"
23:53 mod6 i had a neighbor when i first moved out there that had 2 kids in his apt and no power like 70% of the time. his apt was like well over 120 deg. F. during the day.
23:53 mod6 mircea_popescu: yah. certainly.
23:53 mircea_popescu moar liek azn, less liek swpl
23:54 mircea_popescu that sounds brutal.
23:55 mod6 it does amaze me that they (power companies) don't encourage more private homes to go solar so they can push back to an already strained grid.
23:55 asciilifeform the inescapable conclusions is that Az is: insufficiently hostile to the drifters...
23:55 asciilifeform if they're still there.
23:55 mod6 there used to be terrible rolling brownouts out west all the time.
23:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform drifters are the anal child, basically.
23:56 mircea_popescu takes a point of pride out of resisting beatings.
23:56 mod6 the heat knocks out the power lots in the summer. I guess thats a function of cooling... but getting it back on line is hard as it gets overloaded on the draw. you'd think that having more people on solar would reduce the over all load.
23:57 mod6 haha, but then again, wth do i know?
23:57 mircea_popescu mod6 it also reduces income.
23:57 mircea_popescu anything else can be borne, but less income is bad for any corp.
23:58 mod6 yeah, but why charge the solar people? if anything, i'd think they'd charge non-solar customers more.
23:58 mircea_popescu that's why economic growth has been by now baked into the system at statal level. it's actually bad for corps when income dwindles because it exposes fixed costs
23:58 mircea_popescu mod6 probably the idea is that they're the troublemakers and so they should pay.
23:59 mod6 yeah, i have to believe thats part of the deal. they're seen as "sticking it to the man"... but really its probably a good thing over all. and creates independant households.
23:59 asciilifeform whatever happened to the calculation where photovoltaics turn out to be... joule-negative
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