#trilema | 2018-08-12

in other noose, 1st mats parcel -- eaten. will grind today.

~ 59 minutes ~

11:05

!Q later tell mod6 do we have spare ssd remaining ? i'ma need one asap, running out of temp storage .

11:05

asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.

11:14

... in fact, loox like there won't be any moar phuctor output until i get a 1TB disk hooked up ( will have to be on a usb snake, luckily i left BingoBoingo with one -- as all 4 drive bays on dulap are full )

11:16

mircea_popescu: we are gonna have to activate the s.nsa spare box, as a storage cluster ( and get disks to fill same )

11:20

mechanical disks would actually suffice, for this purpose.

11:20

( 4x, as large as can be had. )

~ 39 minutes ~

11:59

meanwhile... i'ma do a speshul singleshot run with ~only~ mats parcel1 (i.e. minus errything prior to june) as input , just to get a sense of what lies ahead. output will appear in #asciilifeform later today.

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12:42

Oh, how things grow!

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12:59

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841025 << Well, I'm under the impression that there might be a spare for the bitcoin foundation.

12:59

Logged on 2018-08-12 15:05 asciilifeform: !Q later tell mod6 do we have spare ssd remaining ? i'ma need one asap, running out of temp storage .

12:59

mod6: Sent 1 hour and 53 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> do we have spare ssd remaining ? i'ma need one asap, running out of temp storage .

12:59

BingoBoingo ben_vulpes : is this true? ^

13:00

mod6: I'll dig out the cabinet inventory

13:00

Thanks, Sir.

13:03

There's a TBF marked spare 1 TB samsung in the inventory sheet. If thoroughput isn't absolutely necessary there are also locally available external spinninf rust HDD's: https://www.zonatecno.com.uy/ProductDetail/90355/Disco%20duro%20externo%20Seagate%201TB%20STEA1000400%20USB%203-0 and https://www.zonatecno.com.uy/ProductDetail/90469/Disco%20duro%20externo%20Seagate%202TB%20STEA2000400%20USB%203-0

13:04

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mod6 looks

13:06

ah, cool. can you get by with an external drive like those then? that might be the best idea, especially for $100-$120

13:06

mod6: problem is that afaik we dun have a 12v snake

13:06

only the typical 5v one ( i.e. needs lappy-sized drive )

13:07

asciilifeform: Those are the bastard lappy drives in the plasic shells with snake already

13:07

aaa

13:08

1 TB U$S 99, 2 TB U$S 129

13:09

Sincen we only have ~one~ spare remaining on hand until we get our other drive shipments, I kinda wanna hang on to the foundation

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13:09

's spare for emergency.

13:10

lessee later today

13:10

i'ma not ask for anyffing to be bought until mircea_popescu wakes up.

13:10

ok cool.

13:10

will stay tuned.

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14:11

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mircea_popescu reads

14:15

ftr, "crashing" in a "wooded area" sounds like someone didn't look for sidewinder debris at the site.

14:15

noshit

14:16

http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/search?q=amd+turd << ok this is beautiful. nice work stan!

14:17

i've a irc bot also, but currently just short of working, connection drops

14:17

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841012 << this, seems good as it is tbh. let the republican style development work, if anyone for some reason needs, the anyone asks by explaining the reason and we see.

14:17

Logged on 2018-08-12 00:11 trinque: if all it does is cough up the link to search, wouldn't really need an API

14:17

asciilifeform connection's been shit, i suspect they're "fighting spam"

14:17

it's a regged luser & all

14:18

even so.

14:18

http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/search?q=bitcoin << very probably some "platform" or other, keybase ?

14:19

mircea_popescu: they're in order of submission, so the top MB or so is ssl certolade, the rest -- sks

14:19

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841029 << wouldn't it be better to get mechanicals for this actually ?

14:19

Logged on 2018-08-12 15:20 asciilifeform: mechanical disks would actually suffice, for this purpose.

14:19

it would

14:19

4 fat ones.

14:20

what am i agreeing with here ? yes i agree pizarro should have on hand a dozen of each type of disk it uses, at the least. and yes as per ancient http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1825188 it seems a good move for it.

14:20

Logged on 2018-06-13 21:44 mircea_popescu: "get the rigging match the wind".

14:21

or else yes i agree s.nsa can afford more drives if it wants them

14:21

mircea_popescu: this box dun belong to pizarro, recall

14:21

it's ours

14:21

so we're the ones provisioning disks

14:21

aleright, so then tell me this, why is our box provisioned in such a way you ran out of space ?

14:22

mircea_popescu: erry box is doomed to one day run out of space

14:22

when i provisioned the boxes, eater operated at ~10 units / sec, instead of 150 .

14:22

never saw this wonder. but anyway, you want basically to keep a 4ssd raid cluster for speed and add a mechanical on usb ?

14:22

( and there was nobody to collect all of ipv4's ssl etc )

14:22

wouldn't it be better to have 3ssd raid and the mechanical inside ?

14:23

mircea_popescu: primary dulap has 4 holes, all fulla ssd ; spare dulap has 4 empty holes

14:23

usb suggested as stopgap

14:23

and there is not an 'inside' in either

14:23

alright, so basically you want to make the spare into a dumb disk box ? isn't that a waste of board ?

14:24

not necessarily waste of board ; could rent out space to l1 folx .

14:25

i'm not strictly against the configuration, put four large disks on it w/e. see what pizarro says too, but i'm amenable.

14:25

mod6 et al ^

14:25

do we actually own that spare too ? iirc we did sell them something.

14:26

we own 1 spare .

14:26

( sold s.mg spare . )

14:26

yeah, this ^

14:26

ah ok. anyway, if you get spinners, don't get 1tb bs. get 2 or 4 or even 8

14:27

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841047 << ok, but i mean, can't have phuctor grind to a stop because of it neh ?

14:27

Logged on 2018-08-12 17:09 mod6: Sincen we only have ~one~ spare remaining on hand until we get our other drive shipments, I kinda wanna hang on to the foundation

14:27

anyway, ima go take hussy uphill for a spell, bb in a few hours.

14:27

10tb mech disks are ~400bux where i sit

14:28

http://trilema.com/2018/meet-miss-piggy/ << Trilema - Meet Miss Piggy

14:29

mircea_popescu: depending on how long it takes to get disks, we can do what i suggested a while back ( but for some reason can't dig up, in l0gz) where we trade space for time, and run on randomized subsets of the db continuously

14:29

<+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841047 << ok, but i mean, can't have phuctor grind to a stop because of it neh ? << If it's critical, it's critical, and will sell disk to S.NSA.

14:29

Logged on 2018-08-12 17:09 mod6: Sincen we only have ~one~ spare remaining on hand until we get our other drive shipments, I kinda wanna hang on to the foundation

14:30

i had this knob on the implementation conveyor regardless, because of a certain peculiarity of bernstein's algo which i noticed, where if there is an even multiple of any given factor present in the whole, it will not get found

14:30

( hence why the debian collection gets run in two steps, 'p's' then 'q's' )

14:32

asciilifeform: anyway, think it over. let me know.

14:32

we are trying to get more drives down there, as you know. but could be a while until we have any spares at all.

14:33

(spare drives, that is -- which could put is in a pretty bad position if it comes to it)

14:33

mod6: drive shortage will have to be cured ; if i gotta fly with crate of disks, even.

14:34

agree.

14:34

but, VAT.

14:34

mod6: what's the latest on ben_vulpes's disks misadventure ?

14:35

i dunno, I just put in a checkin with him in #pizarro to see about the refund. best case, he got the refund and can ship more drives, perhaps today even.

14:35

BingoBoingo should be ordering drives within a day or so from the btc I sent him on friday.

14:35

But could be a month out, at best.

14:36

Maybe sooner, depending. BingoBoingo is sending his expidited.

14:36

!Q later tell ben_vulpes plox to give mircea_popescu & asciilifeform a quote for getting 5 10TB mech disks of reasonable quality to BingoBoingostan

14:36

asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.

14:37

So what you're thinking is that instaed of the 5 EVO 1tb ssd's that we were supposed to get for S.MG, he'd send 5 10Tb disks for S.NSA instead?

14:37

!Q later tell BingoBoingo plz lemme know re the 1 mech disk in the bilge ( whose is it ? and what size ? and can fit in the snake ? )

14:37

asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.

14:37

mod6: that's what i was thinking

14:38

Well, it could work. But then the drives that BingoBoingo is ordering must go to S.MG's UY3.

14:38

right

14:38

And then we still have no spares until BingoBoingo can place another order. Which I'm fine with, but still leaves us kinda in a sticky spot.

14:38

I'm reluctant to order more drives back to back until we can confirm we can actually receive a shipment.

14:39

(otherwise would just throw him more funds to place a second order immediately)

14:40

Let's think on it anyway. I guess worst case, BingoBoingo could take a day trip to BSAS and buy some drives.

14:41

Or maybe we can see if mthreat wants to ferry over a few.

14:41

iirc mthread went awol aeons ago

14:41

Yeah, just throwin it out there.

14:42

Anyway, your idea sounds like a plan. But can S.NSA live without the mechanical 10Tb spinners for a month?

14:42

(guessing it would take somewhere around that amount of time for the shipment to complete from ben_vulpes)

14:43

mod6 can, either via http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841098 , or disk on snake ( if BingoBoingo turns one up )

14:43

Logged on 2018-08-12 18:29 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depending on how long it takes to get disks, we can do what i suggested a while back ( but for some reason can't dig up, in l0gz) where we trade space for time, and run on randomized subsets of the db continuously

14:43

Ok then.

14:44

!Qcalc 1500/6200

14:44

mod6: 0.241935483871

14:45

!Qcalc 1411/6200

14:45

mod6: 0.227580645161

14:45

We're right under the threshold here.

14:49

!Qcalc 1500/5800

14:49

mod6: 0.258620689655

14:51

!Qcalc (0.23437500+.1)*5800

14:51

mod6: 1939.375

14:51

that'll do it then.

14:52

!!pay BingoBoingo .1

14:52

Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/CZZ3I/?raw=true

14:56

!!v 37B3B34DF2780C02556CD2B45DA8B9D33786C7E3D6CF33E7A9CA71D0D1162A75

14:56

mod6 paid BingoBoingo .1

14:56

!!ledger

14:56

http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gSTaW/?raw=true

14:57

So for the record, the total BTC amount for the BingoBoingo SSD order is: 0.33437500

14:58

Whatever we don't spend will be returned to Pizarro, or I suppose can be held in fiat if need be.

14:58

!Qcalc 0.23437500+.1

14:58

mod6: 0.334375

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15:18

ok got a few chores to do here quick, bbs.

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15:35

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asciilifeform bbl,meat

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16:05

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841101 << err, even ~power~

16:05

Logged on 2018-08-12 18:30 asciilifeform: i had this knob on the implementation conveyor regardless, because of a certain peculiarity of bernstein's algo which i noticed, where if there is an even multiple of any given factor present in the whole, it will not get found

16:05

not multiple , sorry

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16:22

asciilifeform really, i wouldn't put that much finnicking into it.

16:22

so it waits a finite interval for disks, not end of worl.d

16:23

in other fucking lulz, check out usg.freenode : http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-08-12.log.html#t20:01:43

16:23

Logged on 2018-08-12 20:01:43: *** Joins: adamg (~adamg@171.240.3.192)

16:23

they actually patched their ircd to sed 's/spam//'

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16:42

mircea_popescu: the even powers thing is a real effect tho, it's why we still occasionally get 'mod phuctored! factors : 3' etc

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17:30

<mod6> Let's think on it anyway. I guess worst case, BingoBoingo could take a day trip to BSAS and buy some drives. << They aren't cheaper over there

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17:54

ok noted.

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19:00

lobbes

http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/07/auctionbot-eta-and-status-report/#selection-71.0-71.11 << update: I have completed a successful test run of an external .py script communicating on IRC via logbot and the listen/notify mechanisms of postgres. Best part is that I've got a solid foundation for bot command handling as a result of the testing. Blog post soon on the details of playing 'ping-pong' with logbot and postgres as the paddle

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19:25

buncha phuctor output, btw, in #asciilifeform , and prolly will through the night

19:26

or hm, possibly this is it.

19:26

( from parcel1 )

19:32

pretty modest haul.

19:32

( for 26707136 mods )

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asciilifeform suspects http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612157 effect

19:34

Logged on 2017-02-07 18:49 asciilifeform: hanbot: conceivably, a sabotaged generator that yields 2**32 possible keys, will result in ~0 natural collisions, and remain invisible to phuctor unless i first find it via some other means.

19:35

( possibly ought to be http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-02#1533642 link )

19:35

Logged on 2016-09-02 18:26 asciilifeform: well other working hypothesis is that it is ~not~ tiny fraction, but a tip of the 'birthday theorem' iceberg.

19:37

the huawei crapola, for instance, i'm quite convinced at this point would be 100% breakable if anybody got hold of a unit and forced it to generate keys 24/7 for a coupla months

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19:37

( on 'clean' boot naturally , each time )

19:38

ditto mikrotik etc

19:39

A lol in the spew: "deedbot> http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/23B2173C2FF1A9C43007D526720EA2B9EC1CB4AC21503429ACFBA1DA022517B3 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 3 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'James Bottomley <jejb@kernel.org>; James Bottomley <JBottomley@Odin.com>; James Bottomley <JBottomley@Parallels.com>; James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>; '"

19:39

BingoBoingo: old

19:40

see #a log

19:41

I'll have to start reading the phuctor chunks from the bottom up

19:41

was optimizing rss crapper so that it doesn't idiotically do whole cpu/hour of work each time cache expires, evidently introduced a sad where a new find of $factor triggers old mods as report

19:41

( old mods containing same )

19:41

the actual count of new factors found, was 28 .

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20:08

next we will see what , if anything, happens when we run on a ~random 3%~ subset of whole collection.

~ 1 hours 15 minutes ~

21:23

ok, output is happening. up side : there's output, that there was not before. down side : so far all of it is small change crapolade. i'ma really have to do a mod-by-mod walk and gcd(mod, 8192bit primorial from oldthread) . and henceforth on submission. cuz this is lame.

21:24

'this is divisible by 3' should not be news.

21:26

and nobody fucking cares that 'there are 2 moduli divisible by 1547665'. aint prime.

21:31

what i'ma end up doing, is to factor all of the small composites, remove'em from db, enter the factors instead, and henceforth never enter composites into factor table.

21:32