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00:02 hanbot whyty :)
00:02 mod6 site is looking good too - everything working as it should be now?
00:06 hanbot pretty much. header and footer are off by one pixel but i'm saving that fix for next time i feel all ocd. i'm very happy with the hosting!
00:06 mod6 Alright, good to hear. :]
00:11 mod6 mircea_popescu's thorn/winged-paratrooper boob stinging story; reminds me of a time I was cutting down a tree and a wasps nest was in there - it was hot out and I had my shirt off. the fuckers flew down my pants, stung me in the ass like a hundred times.
00:11 mircea_popescu pretty great header i thought.
00:11 mircea_popescu mod6, ahaha. they're territorianal!
00:12 mod6 oh boy, i found out indeed.
00:12 mod6 had me jumping over a fence and running, stripping off all my clothes.
00:12 trinque ahaha that is a picture.
00:12 mod6 lol, it sucked.
00:13 mod6 after getting hosed down, went back to work.
00:14 mod6 i dont have pics, which i totally regret not taking, but this past february I found a giant (think, basketball size) paperwasp nest in one of my huge Silver Maple trees. Had it cut down. That thing looked like it was gonna have a mega-count of the bastards.
00:15 mod6 Thing landed in the snow, and I quickly used a hockey stick to shove it into a contractor bag. Nothing flew out -- but they say that the larve somehow survive the cold up here.
00:16 mod6 *whew*
00:16 mircea_popescu i once took one apart in straight alcohol
00:16 mircea_popescu maybe golfball sized tho
00:16 hanbot http://trilema.com/2011/viesparium/ << obligatory. hymenoptera sux
00:16 mircea_popescu ya that's the one
00:17 mircea_popescu these are harmless guys tho.
00:17 * mod6 looks
00:17 hanbot lol "harmless"
00:18 mod6 wow, this is quite the accounting of these beasts
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03:50 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/FCD084BE15CBB28BA33D5BA8453105B83669AD42641B17D409D4355ADF08B477 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1542...2319 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '87.96.147.5 (ssh-rsa key from 87.96.147.5 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (wbm1upp01.magasin1.se. SE C)
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04:16 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B3BFBA23F2BF795EEA507FAF666E87AC01A60B8EC765408B8439BE374479E235 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1795...8127 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '176.109.130.222 (ssh-rsa key from 176.109.130.222 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown PL)
04:26 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/01CCA0E67F766B697F22E540F70D19F00270DF95C858468CA531B641062FC23F << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1795...8127 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '180.175.20.53 (ssh-rsa key from 180.175.20.53 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CN 31)
04:26 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B3BFBA23F2BF795EEA507FAF666E87AC01A60B8EC765408B8439BE374479E235 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1795...8127 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '176.109.130.222 (ssh-rsa key from 176.109.130.222 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown PL)
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08:42 deedbot http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/071-cl-gpg.html << The Tar Pit - Interfacing Common Lisp programs with GPG the (nearly) painless way
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08:50 trinque wtf. you're using format?! yet used uiop, but didn't bother to use their escape-shell-token ?
08:59 spyked the post doesn't purport to be a guide in correct common lisp programming (issues with those functions are explicitly discussed at the end). anyway, trinque, what's wrong with format?
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08:59 spyked (other than the issues mentioned in the post)
09:00 trinque I dunno why anyone would write a blog post proposing "shell out" and then omit the proper handling of inputs as out of article scope
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09:08 spyked only one reason: brevity. had I solved this, then I would also have to solve "GPG error codes" and all the other problems that GPGME solves. the point was to avoid this complexity altogether for what I'm doing.
09:20 spyked anyway, thanks for the escape-shell-token tip trinque, I'm looking into it and will update the post.
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09:23 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-15#1542346 << uiop hasn't the best reputation ftr
09:23 a111 Logged on 2016-09-15 15:08 phf: i think asdf is evil, version 3 is doing some straight up systemd shit. for those who don't know asdf 3 comes with fare's own portability layer called uiop, which in a very systemd agressive and underhanded style is superseding existing utility libraries.
09:34 spyked good to know, I'll add an example using sbcl's run-program. iirc drakma (or one of the libraries it depends on) forced me to update to asdf3 because of uiop dependency, when getting cl-feed-parser to run.
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09:35 mod6 mornin'
09:36 spyked morning mod6
09:51 mod6 how goes spyked?
09:53 spyked pretty good, learning new things about the common lisp environment. :)
09:53 mod6 Right on, I'm just reading your post here. :]
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10:23 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805906 << asdf3 is pretty much standard in all the lisps right now, you have to go out of the way to downgrade. at the very least avoid implicit uiop dependency and declare it in your asdf file (this is by the way even fare's recommendation, but people ignore it "oh i have asdf3, means i can just throw a sneak uiop:foo all over my code)
10:23 a111 Logged on 2018-04-27 13:34 spyked: good to know, I'll add an example using sbcl's run-program. iirc drakma (or one of the libraries it depends on) forced me to update to asdf3 because of uiop dependency, when getting cl-feed-parser to run.
10:25 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805899 << format is _notorious_ way to get a shell command injection. we had one uncovered by douchebag just two weeks ago in one of the republic's automated processes
10:25 a111 Logged on 2018-04-27 12:59 spyked: the post doesn't purport to be a guide in correct common lisp programming (issues with those functions are explicitly discussed at the end). anyway, trinque, what's wrong with format?
10:26 spyked I understand that, I even put an example of command injection in the post. I thought there was some other reason.
10:26 phf but you don't even have to jump through the hoops of escaping, most lisp's run program implementations, uiop including, support passing in command as a list of strings, which are in turn handled properly by the underlying machinery
10:27 phf tl;dr :>
10:27 phf alternative approach is e.g. (uiop/run-program:run-program (list "ls" "/"))
10:28 spyked anyway, I've learned a few useful things today and I'm adding them as (hopefully brief!) updates :D
10:28 trinque cool
10:36 phf spyked: what i'm saying is that you can avoid the injection without even introducing any new elements, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gYkxc/
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10:38 * trinque first says "ohey p.bvulpes has lisp highlighting!" then "oh wait, lack of escaping as a feature"
10:38 trinque it's a good example and a bad example all in one
10:38 phf :D
10:43 spyked neat phf, I had no idea that was possible. I was going to add some assert/check-type calls anyway though.
10:44 trinque isn't "rm -rf /" the correct type?
10:45 trinque er, with a ; at the front
10:45 spyked :))
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11:04 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805897 <-- updated. http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/071-cl-gpg.html#selection-1035.0-1037.1 (crap this is even longer now; I need to be more succint)
11:04 a111 Logged on 2018-04-27 12:42 deedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/071-cl-gpg.html << The Tar Pit - Interfacing Common Lisp programs with GPG the (nearly) painless way
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11:23 lobbes Neato spyked. I'm sure I'll be putting your guide to practical use once it comes time to implement the self-voicing bit of the eventual tickerbot I'm building
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11:26 lobbes I've found myself squirreling away these paradropped ru-isms >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-26#1805802
11:26 a111 Logged on 2018-04-26 19:35 asciilifeform: the d00d throwing away his sores, is classical 'назло кондуктору: куплю билет пойду пешком!' analchild maculae
11:30 mircea_popescu lol
11:36 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805903 << poor spyked keeps getting blindsided with this sorta item. how you holding up in there, yo
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11:36 a111 Logged on 2018-04-27 13:20 spyked: anyway, thanks for the escape-shell-token tip trinque, I'm looking into it and will update the post.
11:39 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805906 <<< it's how you say drepper in lisp.
11:39 a111 Logged on 2018-04-27 13:34 spyked: good to know, I'll add an example using sbcl's run-program. iirc drakma (or one of the libraries it depends on) forced me to update to asdf3 because of uiop dependency, when getting cl-feed-parser to run.
11:39 asciilifeform or, can also verb: drepping
11:41 mircea_popescu or can also eat shit and die.
11:41 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805922 << if you're going to "--clearsign" why not "-aer uid" for the same money ?
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11:41 a111 Logged on 2018-04-27 14:36 phf: spyked: what i'm saying is that you can avoid the injection without even introducing any new elements, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gYkxc/
11:41 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that -- punishment. drepping -- the crime.
11:41 mircea_popescu the crime and the punishment are indistinguishable in all divine systems.
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11:41 mircea_popescu "in theory there is no difference..."
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12:17 BingoBoingo http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/04/27/the-triump-of-will-yet-another-infinity-war-review/ << All the spoilers necessary for Trolling this weekend
12:17 deedbot http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/04/27/the-triump-of-will-yet-another-infinity-war-review/ << Bingo Blog - The Triump Of Will: Yet Another Infinity War Review
12:17 asciilifeform triumph?
12:18 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Definitely. The right fellow wins.
12:18 BingoBoingo Of course pantsuit will retcon it with a sequel
12:18 BingoBoingo But Provided this is taken as the end of the story, it is the right ending
12:19 mircea_popescu you spelled it without an h
12:19 BingoBoingo Ah
12:20 BingoBoingo I'm used to seeing It spelled in my head as Trump, thusly fixed
12:21 BingoBoingo A man on a gruelling mission acquires one McGuffin which will allow him to finally rest, and begins a race against time as the forces of socialism and fake humanitarian scammers align against him.
12:21 jurov http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805901 In 99 cases out of 100 shell is not needed and honest-to-God execve() is sufficient
12:21 a111 Logged on 2018-04-27 13:00 trinque: I dunno why anyone would write a blog post proposing "shell out" and then omit the proper handling of inputs as out of article scope
12:23 jurov no idea why common lisp is so obtuse about it
12:23 asciilifeform jurov: i can't resist to ask -- how's that, and vs what
12:24 trinque jurov: can't blame the forklift when it runs over the operator
12:30 jurov i mean, execve does not mutilate any parameters passed to it
12:31 jurov because it does not execute shell but the command directly
12:38 mircea_popescu i dont' get it, lisp shellout to execve ?
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13:06 jurov lisp calls shell with command and parameters. Shell then splits the parameters (and expands variables and many other things uncalled for) and pass them to execve syscall anyway.
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13:28 mircea_popescu so basically use it like a wrapper
13:30 * mircea_popescu thought both exec and execve are ~same, except one passes a list.
13:38 lobbes I thought he meant to cut out the shell middleman entirely and just directly call execve()?
13:45 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/741F83D180F194CFCEBD19BAD698A5DCAE9DFFB03F14A1687DC41D44706846DD << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1598...9993 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '27.254.152.70 (ssh-rsa key from 27.254.152.70 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail.10gb-host.net. TH)
13:49 trinque jurov: lobbes: https://github.com/sbcl/sbcl/blob/master/src/code/run-program.lisp#L610 << apologies for shithub, but it does use execve on at least sbcl.
13:50 trinque even if some other wrapper is using only shellout, has to be firing up that shell *somehow*, right?
13:50 jurov trinque: i dun parse
13:51 trinque meh.
13:51 jurov No, you don't need shell to execute other programs.
13:52 trinque that is not what I said, at all.
13:54 jurov so what did you say?
13:55 trinque jurov: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Xd9fA/?raw=true
13:59 jurov trinque (run-program "ls" '() :SEARCH T)
14:00 mircea_popescu lobbes, they're all the middleman
14:01 jurov for example, if sbcl ran the command using shell, this would have side effect of actually running touch: (run-program "ls" '("`touch /tmp/evil`") :SEARCH T)
14:02 asciilifeform why puzzle, see output of strace
14:02 asciilifeform ( spoiler : jurov is right )
14:02 trinque huh. that's pretty sad then.
14:02 asciilifeform ( at least re my copy of sbcl )
14:04 * mircea_popescu is pretty impressed, had nfi.
14:05 trinque I don't see an extra shell in there, unless they hand-off via "exec"
14:06 mircea_popescu there's no exec per se is there ?
14:10 trinque (run-program "/bin/dd" '("if=/dev/zero")) << I see nothing but sbcl with dd for child
14:10 trinque mircea_popescu: I mean the shell command, only way I can conceive ^ happening if it is indeed using the shell
14:11 trinque jurov: looks to me like that :search parameter is indeed evil, DWIMs and runs in shell
14:13 asciilifeform trinque: that's consistent with execv call
14:14 asciilifeform ( possibly at issue here is abuse of terminology -- folx call this 'shelling out' but e.g. /bin/sh does not run )
14:16 asciilifeform ^ re the dd example, if it wasn't clear
14:17 trinque whether the thing has a "bite your dick off" switch, or bites your dick off by default, either way discussing degree of idiocy, I fully agree.
14:18 asciilifeform in unix world it is the buttons that ~don't~ biteyerdickoff , that are remarkable.
14:24 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/04/kanye-makes-pantsuit-media-headlines-while-outlets-refuse-to-acknowledge-growing-hotep-movement/ << Qntra - Kanye Makes Pantsuit Media Headlines While Outlets Refuse To Acknowledge Growing Hotep Movement
14:26 BingoBoingo ^ trump's second term is coming along nicely if his bodily integrity holds up
14:27 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw5bYlTs9Wk in other lulz, pantsuit handpuppet attempts cultural appropriotion
14:29 BingoBoingo They were promised laser spears and flying rocket Pyramids. USG.Disney fucked up not aligning Wakanda with our hero Thanos.
14:29 mircea_popescu it's pretty lulzy how threatened they are.
14:30 mircea_popescu apparently the 1970s "black men know how to organize la revolucion innately, instinctively, and only" nonsense that impelled inepty prisses a la hillary rodham to her ultimate impalement on a stake of lulz are still with them!
14:30 mircea_popescu they actually believe black men are somehow demographically relevant, god bless their souls.
14:31 BingoBoingo #woke >> "Black Lives Matter wishes to appeal to the moral nature of a people that have shown no signs of having a moral compass. Hoteps believe this is assinine. Black Lives Matter would rather complain about the damage the “white man” has done to their communities instead of fixing the issues themselves. BLM wishes to protest and Hoteps do not. BLM will not acknowledge the black on black crime in the community while Hoteps do.
14:31 BingoBoingo BLM does not believe that black economics will cure many of the black communities problems and Hoteps have reason to believe otherwise."
14:32 BingoBoingo Well, In USSA they are good for enough of a swing to make more than enough laffs
14:33 mircea_popescu why not pick the mexicans to be your salvation, at least the shorties like to work.
14:33 mircea_popescu and there's just as irrelevantly but slightly more of them.
14:34 BingoBoingo The Mexicans like to work, inevitably turn great again. That's why Pantsuit is trying to lure the ones who didn't come to work in 1960-2004 in now.
14:35 mircea_popescu i suppose the nonsense does have some batshit internal logic.
14:36 BingoBoingo It has a rough skeleton. Like a big tent. Liek their own metaphor.
14:36 mircea_popescu i guess so huh.
14:38 * BingoBoingo will confess to seeing the first English language (spanish subtitles) showing of what the authors call "Avengers: Infinity War" Eating one of the local "magic" baked goods T-1 hour before showing, and spending most of the time Thanos wasn't gloating over a WOT filter for this balancing
14:39 BingoBoingo * wondering why Thanos wasn't gloating
14:43 BingoBoingo The theater was filled with young Uruguayos who *clapped* when their favorites appeared on screen. (I have since been told clapping because things happen in movies is normal here) Thusly I clapped when their favorites died at the hands of my favorite.
14:45 BingoBoingo And yes, the quality of CGI has fallen dramatically over the past 10 years. A good chunk of the film was dominated by video game characters pasted onto a map made out of what the real cameras captured.
14:45 mircea_popescu heh
14:46 mircea_popescu i've yet to see one of those cgi wonders. but it's pretty obvious when they switch, like say in grande belezza, when those flamingos show up, the sky is supposed to bhe like whatever, sky-of-rapture i guess
14:46 mircea_popescu but it totally looks like sky-of-bits
14:47 BingoBoingo Complete with clothing that moved like... video game shit. Clothes moving in unison with the silhouette instead of like cloth.
14:48 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: advance guard for replacing even the mocaptors with https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610773/virtual-robots-that-teach-themselves-kung-fu-could-revolutionize-video-games/
14:48 BingoBoingo The rotoscope detail on the faces, but.. when asked how much of the clothed torso should animators have to track the execs answered "none"
14:50 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: this is a pronounced backslide compared to the CGI in 2003's Hulk movie
14:51 ben_vulpes spreading!
14:51 BingoBoingo Or 2011's Planet of the Apes movie
14:52 mircea_popescu this "could revolutionize" is by now how jews say "bullshit not worth reading". it's a sort of rel=nofollow for zeks.
14:53 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> but it totally looks like sky-of-bits << The great lulz in is how much effort they put into te skys, faces, and armor yet revert to common failure modes on... Shirts!
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15:34 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F1ED5F9D4B2AF299C23329206CB58D4C01D46AB6B49CE687D609BE1E707B0745 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2974...8743 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '41.178.64.153 (ssh-rsa key from 41.178.64.153 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown EG)
15:34 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4CA047A1DC3B4DD0A2254C9274AB5B4A4B5AECD404AE95EEEE0DE227113F35E1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2974...8743 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '94.230.125.74 (ssh-rsa key from 94.230.125.74 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (840.rt-barnaul-02.dianet.ru. RU)
15:34 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E17BC3E38DABD1C91A27D226FC57B2ACFEB88E913F4D218985717FDD514FB934 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2974...8743 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '123.16.255.60 (ssh-rsa key from 123.16.255.60 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (static.vnpt.vn. VN 64)
15:34 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4D06D8481441CD5F5CE45274A5CED690CAED25EFB721DF8809C5178A3D26574C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2974...8743 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '195.9.43.26 (ssh-rsa key from 195.9.43.26 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown RU MOW)
15:48 BingoBoingo In other lulz this week, a born and breed Uruguayo approached me this week asking advice on doing business with Norte Americanos this week. He was completely confounded that Gringos del Norte do not want to wait until after 3-4 skype "meetings" before making a decision. I explained I am in LATAM for reasons, but it would be to his advantage to streamline his shit so he is ready to sell it when the customer is ready to buy
15:51 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: what was he selling ?
15:52 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: He and an few other Uruguayos do website renovations
15:52 asciilifeform renovations?! they rust?!?
15:52 BingoBoingo Apparently
15:52 BingoBoingo Either that or the browsers rust
15:55 BingoBoingo He was not the fellow who earlier inquired on what sort of shared hosting prices I could offer that might sway him from the under 3 USD a month contract he entered into "Hostgator". That was a Redhat JVM developer.
15:56 * BingoBoingo is accepting his role as zoo animal, living amongst the others.
15:56 asciilifeform aa lol the usg provocateur d00d
15:56 asciilifeform ( picture, why would rathead suddenly ask after pizarro )
15:57 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: This was actually asked in February. Right before my logistics fail. And yes he has greasy rat hair.
15:58 BingoBoingo Balked when I did napkin math with him
15:59 * BingoBoingo suggested he buy a cheap-o refurb tower and then walked him through space power math.
16:01 BingoBoingo Also, the green birds from http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/04/25/remedial-skills-camera-walk-rtfm-edition/ La Peruana insists are Loros, but I am calling bullshit on her because Loros talk.
16:02 BingoBoingo After I put in some effort trying to teach them to say nigger
16:02 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C221D63144C2297870888E6712BF15F1E4A5E3C4403DCFCEEF46BFD1813141C9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1427...9357 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '81.93.248.152 (ssh-rsa key from 81.93.248.152 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (vps01.atlantem.net. FR)
16:02 BingoBoingo But if they are Loros that would explain why I occasionally hear "Todo bien" coming from los arboles
16:07 asciilifeform i didn't notice any 'proper' parrot in BingoBoingostan. only the little green argentine type.
16:07 asciilifeform afaik those dun talk..
16:08 asciilifeform ( or.. do they?? mircea_popescu knows ? )
16:08 BingoBoingo Those are the little green ones. I am going to see.
16:08 mircea_popescu the green guys are parrots, why not ?
16:09 BingoBoingo Cool, then next week gotta teach them to meme
16:09 mircea_popescu it's not a natural functuionm, you realise, like fucking. gotta spend time to TEACH THEM.
16:10 * asciilifeform laboured under the notion that parrots in city oughta emit such sounds as motorcycle vroom, horns, etc
16:10 mircea_popescu even mockingbirds do that.
16:11 BingoBoingo These guys hang by the Puertito
16:20 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/741F83D180F194CFCEBD19BAD698A5DCAE9DFFB03F14A1687DC41D44706846DD << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1471...9097 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '27.254.152.70 (ssh-rsa key from 27.254.152.70 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail.10gb-host.net. TH)
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19:42 douchebag Have you guys seen the BGP hijack that allowed a bunch of peopels Ethereum to be stolen?
19:46 mircea_popescu o hey, how's the rockchip working for you douchebag ?
19:57 douchebag it's working - still getting used to Gentoo
19:57 douchebag Haven't really worked much with Gentoo so it's a bit of learning
19:57 asciilifeform oh hey
19:58 mircea_popescu cool.
19:58 asciilifeform douchebag: lemme know if you run into problems. also see my www, i posted a recipe for how to make the same box at home, to test on.
19:59 mircea_popescu but why would he lol. box is there to test on already.
19:59 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the most obvious reason would be if he wants to make own linux for it.
19:59 asciilifeform ( this goes for all potential subscribers. )
19:59 mircea_popescu may be a while yet.
20:03 douchebag hey actually
20:03 douchebag asciilifeform:
20:04 douchebag The url of the encrypted file w/ credentials for the vps is missing
20:04 asciilifeform waiwat
20:04 asciilifeform we dun have a vps
20:04 asciilifeform and what file
20:04 douchebag http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Fgc0N/?raw=true
20:05 asciilifeform how am i to know what this was ?
20:05 douchebag Okay so ben vulpes sent me that link
20:05 douchebag and it gave me the ssh creds
20:05 asciilifeform !#s http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Fgc0N/?raw=true
20:05 a111 2 results for "http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Fgc0N/?raw=true", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fp.bvulpes.com%2Fpastes%2FFgc0N%2F%3Fraw%3Dtrue
20:06 asciilifeform douchebag: this was presumably your rockchip login ? if as you said you are 'getting used to gentoo', you already have it ?
20:06 asciilifeform or you lost yer copy, or what
20:06 douchebag oooh nevermid
20:06 douchebag thanks to lobbes bot I found an archive of it
20:06 * asciilifeform is confused : douchebag only now thought to log in to the box for 1st time ??
20:07 douchebag No
20:07 douchebag with all pgp stuff I decrypt
20:07 douchebag i save it as x.asc
20:07 douchebag and just copy in the new gpg msg
20:07 douchebag and I had overwritten it
20:07 douchebag and thought I lost the gpg message that contained my credentials
20:08 douchebag going to generate an rsa key for logging into it now
20:10 asciilifeform so what was the 'getting used to gentoo' about ?
20:10 asciilifeform got own gentoo box at home ?
20:11 douchebag I've always used Arch and I currently use MacOS as my primary OS
20:13 asciilifeform eh nm
20:14 douchebag What's your main OS?
20:14 asciilifeform gentoo.
20:14 douchebag What are some of the reasons you prefer using it?
20:14 asciilifeform !#s from:asciilifeform gentoo
20:14 a111 301 results for "from:asciilifeform gentoo", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Aasciilifeform%20gentoo
20:14 asciilifeform ^ see log
20:17 asciilifeform https://archive.li/TzRKT << in noose lulz. ' “We don’t care, we think you’re a criminal, and I’m sorry but Microsoft wants your head on a platter and I’m going to give it to them.” Those are the words that the US attorney said to me in that meeting, face to face.'
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20:17 douchebag lol
20:18 douchebag Yeah, I never really got much into Gentoo because it always takes so damn long to install everything from source
20:19 asciilifeform depends on how much your 'everything' weighs, neh
20:19 asciilifeform for instance, rebuilding world on the rockchip ( a quite modest comp ) takes about a day and a half
20:19 asciilifeform and this incl. ~all~ contents, incl compiler
20:20 asciilifeform how much 'everything' do you actually need.
20:23 douchebag well like for instance
20:23 douchebag I'm installing vim on the rockchip box right now
20:23 douchebag and it's been like 20 minutes
20:23 asciilifeform kill it. and read mod6's experience in #pizarro
20:24 asciilifeform you gotta ban xorg if yer a vim user
20:24 asciilifeform or it will try to build xorg
20:24 asciilifeform which you do NOT want on that box
20:24 douchebag https://i.imgur.com/zwRe5Ei.png
20:24 asciilifeform http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-22#342309
20:24 mimisbrunnr Logged on 2018-04-22 17:04 asciilifeform: you didn't ban xorg
20:25 * asciilifeform wonders why this required a screenshit
20:25 mircea_popescu this is going well i see...
20:26 asciilifeform douchebag: ls -ltr /var/log/portage and find the emerge log and you can see what it does.
20:26 asciilifeform ( see the mod6 thread . )
20:29 asciilifeform douchebag: historically i've found that setting up a gentoo box to 'workstation' standard takes 2-3 wks. (depending , though less than you might think, on the speed of the comp.) fortunately 99+% of the work has already been done for you on that box.
20:31 mod6 Evenin'
20:31 asciilifeform heya mod6
20:33 mod6 How goes today?
20:34 asciilifeform mod6: still recovering from whatever that was i picked up.
20:35 mod6 Ugh! Hopefully you can get some extra rest this weekend then.
20:41 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-28#1806104 << criminal org slowly shedding the pretense.
20:41 a111 Logged on 2018-04-28 00:17 asciilifeform: https://archive.li/TzRKT << in noose lulz. ' “We don’t care, we think you’re a criminal, and I’m sorry but Microsoft wants your head on a platter and I’m going to give it to them.” Those are the words that the US attorney said to me in that meeting, face to face.'
20:44 asciilifeform been a while since i heard of anybody jailed for ~selling~ warez on physical disk tho. i was convinced these died with the '90s
20:45 mircea_popescu eh, they have this whole menagerie of "trutfully relevant and working sir!" patent medicines.
20:45 mircea_popescu "the sting operation". "the proof". the blabla
20:46 asciilifeform dun forget 'the signed confession' (not yet from him, supposedly, but there is always next day)
20:47 mircea_popescu righ right. "the plea bargain".
20:47 asciilifeform how'd it go, confessio est regina probationum (tm)(r)
20:48 mircea_popescu it's reached epileptic trees level of self-referential nonsense by now.
20:48 asciilifeform or prolly better known today in ru, from the mouth of vyshinsky, 'Признание - царица доказательств'
20:48 mircea_popescu and through it all, perhaps the most amusing part, their wholly spurious pretense that ~everyone~ gives a shit ; fly it in the face of plain and ubiquitous evidence that a single soul that does can not be found for love or money.
20:49 mircea_popescu fly it in the face of all evidence all it will ; in the mental patients' inner world, "law enforcement" is as much a thing as any other structured delusion.
20:50 asciilifeform this kinda thing happily carries on right until the moment the plank drops and the noose tightens, at nuremberg
20:51 mircea_popescu if history's any guide.
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