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05:27 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes hey, imagine all the idle posturing going on in every tiny social group. kids used to be hackers, after being secret agents, after being you know.
05:27 mircea_popescu mod6 what of ?
~ 2 hours 46 minutes ~
08:13 PeterL !!v 8625F2F43A521F78E34FD7D88C65784ACC911E3323A94F9DF8EEFCD5092C7F90
08:13 deedbot PeterL unrated kakobrekla.
~ 1 hours 15 minutes ~
09:29 ReadErr https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/technology/cryptocurrency-puerto-rico.html
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~ 33 minutes ~
10:02 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780645 << you'd be amazed at what else it dun support. ultra-cut-down item.
10:02 a111 Logged on 2018-02-03 01:20 mircea_popescu: and considering what happens in response to curl -v -X GET -H "range: bytes=1-8" www.loper-os.org (full page dump) we can add asciilifeform / nfs to the list of "does not support ranges"
10:03 asciilifeform but i suspect phf is right, and ranged-GET evaporated ~everywhere while asciilifeform slept in his cave.
10:03 asciilifeform fwiw
10:06 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780711 << sorta the fundamental braindamage of html ( and all 'plaintextist' protocols, period ) -- that they lack 'and HERE is EXACTLY how many bytes will follow'
10:06 a111 Logged on 2018-02-03 01:48 mircea_popescu: but anyway -- you can even now make a server return ~infinite headers if you wish.
10:07 asciilifeform listener is stuck waiting for his memory, and patience, to run out
10:08 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780738 << why is it that ben_vulpes gets the nosy deliverymen, and asciilifeform not!111
10:08 a111 Logged on 2018-02-03 04:52 ben_vulpes: guy delivering servers today wanted to know what i was doing with em; "well let's see, install some software and then rack 'em in a datacenter, what else does one do with servers?" "no but like are you mining bro?" "haha funny. don't you have something for me to sign?"
10:08 asciilifeform nobody ever asks asciilifeform 'what is the 100kg of crate'.
10:09 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780744 << lol complete with pedo brock
10:09 a111 Logged on 2018-02-03 14:29 ReadErr: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/technology/cryptocurrency-puerto-rico.html
10:09 asciilifeform hilarious buncha idjits, 'let's all move to 1 usg reservation and feed the waterfall there while awaiting cokemachine'
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10:10 asciilifeform !~ticker --market all
10:10 jhvh1 asciilifeform: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 9405.0, vol: 21008.47772549 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 9445.9, vol: 60871.97237583 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 9390.0, vol: 9260.56420663 | Volume-weighted last average: 9430.79250653
10:10 asciilifeform !!reputation ReadErr
10:10 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ZUuG8/?raw=true
~ 1 hours 13 minutes ~
11:24 phf http://paste.lisp.org << "Due to continued abuse, this service has been discontinued"
11:24 asciilifeform ahahahaha
11:24 asciilifeform whose was it anyway
11:26 phf i don't know
11:29 phf i think mp had a conversation with someone from #lisp, and someone was responding as if in authority, but you never know
11:30 asciilifeform info pg mentions a Erik Enge and a Brian Mastenbrook
11:30 asciilifeform i have nfi who they were/are
11:30 asciilifeform or nm, those were authors of the proggy
11:30 asciilifeform not necessarily operators of the paste www
11:31 asciilifeform eh well, another 'allcomers' item bites the dust.
11:37 phf well, we don't really have non-allcomers web systems ourselves. the only example from past is mp's retired token system
11:37 asciilifeform the items that only work from in-chan are close enuff
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11:37 asciilifeform e.g. pehbot
11:38 phf i suppose it hinges on definition of "web systems". trinque's static thing that only takes input from channel i suppose qualifies and is exception to what i'm saying
~ 18 minutes ~
11:57 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780757 << all they're good for.
11:57 a111 Logged on 2018-02-03 15:09 asciilifeform: hilarious buncha idjits, 'let's all move to 1 usg reservation and feed the waterfall there while awaiting cokemachine'
11:57 ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780744 << "Mr. Pierce walked around the tree and said prayers for Puertopia, holding a rusted wrench he had picked up in the territory. He kissed an old man's feet. He blessed a crystal in the water, as they all watched. He played the Chaplin speech to everyone and to the tree, Mr. Nygard said."
11:57 a111 Logged on 2018-02-03 14:29 ReadErr: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/technology/cryptocurrency-puerto-rico.html
11:59 mircea_popescu so for the last day i've been working on this bogota megapost. hopefully i fucking finish it today jesus.
~ 30 minutes ~
12:29 deedbot http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/03/pricing-information-fun-with-numbers/ << Bingo Blog - Pricing Information: Fun With Numbers
~ 29 minutes ~
12:58 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> mod6 what of ? << was just laughin hard at ben's delivery guy.
12:58 mircea_popescu :p
13:11 BingoBoingo In other Pais Pobre: "The idea that makes tPanel unique compared to other web hosting control panels is that the software does not require any root/shell access to function. Instead, it’s more of a manager for people who have ambitions to start a web host on their shared web hosting plan." - http://www.gnutoolbox.com/tpanel/
13:14 mircea_popescu ahahaha
13:28 BingoBoingo Because, you know... The "shared" word is in there.
~ 1 hours 33 minutes ~
15:01 phf mircea_popescu: alright, i cleared my schedule for that general period, i'll look at flights again tonight and we can just go with whatever works out best financially
15:02 mircea_popescu works.
15:03 lobbes http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780773 << ftr this is how I'm currently designing "!Qarchive-bulk-download" to work. Bot will check with deedbot for a key registered, then verify good wot standing in my L1. No allcomers allowed!
15:03 a111 Logged on 2018-02-03 16:37 asciilifeform: the items that only work from in-chan are close enuff
~ 15 minutes ~
15:18 mircea_popescu works.
~ 19 minutes ~
15:37 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/bogota-a-mixed-bag/ << Trilema - Bogota, a mixed bag
~ 23 minutes ~
16:00 mircea_popescu in other sads, we discover that the trilema pics sum up to almost 3gb these days ;/
~ 2 hours 25 minutes ~
18:26 mod6 wow, nice pics from bogota tho!
18:34 mircea_popescu yeah, how about happy gold guy
18:35 mod6 yeah, the raw emeralds too
18:35 mircea_popescu in other lulzy lulz, https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7ujeoz/i_wonder_how_long_it_will_take_for_the_other_sub/
18:36 mircea_popescu what happened, anyway ? that got the rats so rattled
18:38 mircea_popescu mod6 sadly i didn't have the time to check out the emeralds museum also, apparently this exists.
18:39 mod6 oh, a whole one for just that huh. kinda neat.
18:39 mircea_popescu afaik for most of history most emeralds came from them.
18:40 mircea_popescu apparently they also have a jewelry shop right in the museum. and a simulated mine. it was the next item on the list, but there's only so much you can cram into four days of fucking & drinking.
18:42 ben_vulpes trinque: you said you had to go gcc 6 -> 5 -> 4, right?
18:42 mod6 yeah, makes sense. maybe something for next time 'eh
18:42 mircea_popescu i dun really think i want to go back.
18:43 mod6 fair enough.
18:54 mod6 from the higher up shots of the city, it is quite big isn't it.
18:55 mod6 wow, the plateau is @ 8660 ft above sea level too. didn't realize that.
19:07 mircea_popescu yeah. the place where i took those pics was 3200 meters
19:07 mircea_popescu city itself is like 2700
19:08 mircea_popescu (3200 m ~= 10.5 k feet)
19:14 mircea_popescu and i tell you, it winds you. there were some inclines/stairs up there i had to take in two portions.
19:17 mod6 oh sure. if you're not used to that type of elevation, can take a lot out of you indeed.
19:19 mircea_popescu wtf is edge browser anyway
19:20 ben_vulpes totally not a relabeled IE
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19:20 mircea_popescu oh
19:20 mircea_popescu i thought it's the browser you get if you can't afford orgasm.
19:29 mircea_popescu meanwhile at python balls, http://78.media.tumblr.com/c0c8daa0e7ab2cfc32acc93af097347d/tumblr_ngfwxd1G6h1qega1vo1_1280.jpg
19:35 mircea_popescu speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779624 : $ cat trilema.txt | grep -c '"HEAD ' > 5936. this is about 9 hours' worth of log. turns out mp-wp uses head to make sure pictures uploaded correctly ; turns out a lot of economical browsers use head on pics on a page prior to loading them, to check if they already have them in the cache.
19:35 a111 Logged on 2018-02-02 17:03 asciilifeform: i dun even propose to kill HEAD because it is complicated to implement -- it isn't, as i understand. but because 'nobody but pinoys ever seemed to issue a HEAD at asciilifeform's www, in decade+'
19:35 mircea_popescu apparently if filename matches.
19:36 asciilifeform i guess i needed a www with moar gas-modem-powered readers, to find this out.
19:37 * asciilifeform still somewhere in first 20% of mircea_popescu's photovoyage
19:37 mircea_popescu seems, finally, various "fight linkrot" mechanisms use head to check if item linked sitll exists.
19:37 mircea_popescu conceivably they nuke the local link if head fails or somesuch.
19:37 asciilifeform seems like stuck with GET, POST, HEAD . ( still waiting to hear a defense of PUT )
19:38 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's pretty humongous, i suppose i just wrote a magazine by myself.
19:38 asciilifeform currently reading the vintage ro docz.
19:38 asciilifeform the marvel is that, picture american 'declassified' turds from same period, recall how they look like chessboards
19:38 mircea_popescu aha!
19:38 asciilifeform with what every other word even TODAY censored
19:39 mircea_popescu however, these are a) from commie times so nobody much cares and b) the most benign of nothingness, what press releases were being shuttled. im not even sure they were ciphered originally.
19:39 asciilifeform usg only recently released various minutiae from 1945, and ~even it~ with gaps
19:40 asciilifeform they dun seem to have a 'nobody cares' mode
19:40 mircea_popescu yes, but usg harbors hallucinations of continuity.
19:40 asciilifeform right.
19:41 mircea_popescu anyway, kinda why i included them. afaik there exists nowhere online such a thing, for the inquiring mind that might wish to know how ro declassified documents look in the first place.
19:41 mircea_popescu tho there's lots of them floating about in rosphere, as there was a lot of wranglking about political policing and so on.
19:42 * asciilifeform enjoys embassies. doesn't actually know anyone who works in'em, however; but where asciilifeform lives they every year have a festival where 'look how great is our goatfuckistan, and how mighty its embassy, have some liquor, ' etc
19:42 mircea_popescu so while pretty much every adult romanian saw at least one (often enough in the shape of, hey, do you know this guy you've been frioends for 30 years with, since chiuldhood ? well he was trying to fuck your wife and get you imprisoned), apparently there's a NOFORN clause implicit or something, 0 internets.
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19:44 asciilifeform the ro-themed wikilick ( mircea_popescu-powered, even, in the early burst iirc ) also counts, neh
19:49 mircea_popescu well depends. sure, counts,. but i meant as the physical photocopy as such
19:49 mircea_popescu i dunno, minor point i guess
19:49 mircea_popescu i like to see actual items.
19:51 asciilifeform dunno if i personally could tell actual-1974-shoemaker's-own-typewriter from artful fake typed on the timis museum one
19:51 asciilifeform but possibly mircea_popescu could
19:51 mircea_popescu i can, definitely.
19:51 asciilifeform curious how
19:51 mircea_popescu including the iliterate signatures.
19:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform thousand little clues, like the quality of the tape, the worn-ness of the letterheads, types of typing mistakes (eg, misspelling were unpermitted, missing space uniting words sometimes tolerated, many such tiny details)
19:52 mircea_popescu if you spend enough time with anything you end up with an idea of how it goes, be it wine or typewriter era paperwork.
19:53 asciilifeform ah this much is not surprising, i presumed it under 'artful fake'
19:53 asciilifeform naturally you'd use worn ribbon, omit occasional space + never misspelling
19:54 mircea_popescu infinitely artful fake is definitionally undetectable neh.
19:54 asciilifeform tru
19:56 mircea_popescu (maria groza, often mentioned there, deputy foreign minister at the time, even made it in "women's movement antologies" and whatnot.
19:56 asciilifeform any relation to petru ?
19:57 mircea_popescu not afaik. not that uncommon a name.
20:00 asciilifeform the hruscheba in the last pic is a winner. loox almost as if it came with 0 windows originally, and only the brave souls who chopped out their own, nao have one or two
20:01 mircea_popescu you know ?
20:07 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/bogota-101.jpg << holyfuq cruelty to glyphs
20:07 asciilifeform wat did cyrillic ever do to these folx
20:08 mircea_popescu lel
20:08 asciilifeform ( prolly wants to be 'что у трезвого на уме то у пьяного на языке' )
20:08 mircea_popescu something like that
20:08 mircea_popescu i thought you'd appreciate.
20:12 * asciilifeform finally eaten article
20:12 asciilifeform loox like a perfectly-serviceable bananistan
20:12 asciilifeform ( or rather, i dun notice any substantial diff in flavour vs mircea_popescu's cr pics )
20:18 mircea_popescu the people are a lot closer to the argentinian (pompous, inept, idle) than the tico (eager, voluble, extrovert) ; there's better night life but the 550 mm barometer is unpleasant ; much larger town but virtually no wild life ; arguably better food in restaurants, but i do prefer my slavegirls cooking anyway. and so on.
20:19 asciilifeform barometer one gets used to, neh
20:19 asciilifeform if you were to camp out there for month+
20:19 mircea_popescu so used he gets an aneurism at 55.
20:19 mircea_popescu it's not a healthy environment.
20:19 mircea_popescu and the gray in the altitude pics, that's smog.
20:19 * asciilifeform doesn't know if he's ever even been to a 'healthy environment' for more than coupla days stretch
20:20 mircea_popescu i make a point of it.
20:21 mircea_popescu anyway. perfectly serviceable bananistan, yes. i still prefer cr. there's a certain advantage to being able to drive to the beach in a coupla hours any time.
20:21 * asciilifeform can picture this.
20:28 mircea_popescu add to that the dismal (and ridiculously overpriced) real estate, and the inept regulations (instead of forbidding poor people / locals from owning cars privately, they came up with the batshit insane nonsense of banning plates by whether they're opdd or even on alternate days. and this isn't an accident, this is structurally how they think.)
20:28 mircea_popescu and they have bicycle lanes, which i find intolerable.
20:28 asciilifeform on sidewalks, like timis?!
20:32 mircea_popescu sometimes.
20:33 asciilifeform are there actual bicyclists , or mostly imaginary like in ro
20:33 mircea_popescu there's some. in fairness i wasn't there long enough to say ; but the very idea annoys me.
20:48 mircea_popescu !~ticker --market all
20:48 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 9094.99, vol: 15650.81040742 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 9077.3, vol: 50688.71557358 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 9071.2, vol: 7929.87426483 | Volume-weighted last average: 9080.37651068
20:48 mircea_popescu !~calc 1153 / 9080.37651068
20:48 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: 1153 / 9080.37651068 = 0.12697711363002231
20:48 mircea_popescu !!pay phf 0.12697711
20:48 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/z9meQ/?raw=true
20:49 phf i don't have a wallet setup with that thing, i'll book pay tomorrow. i'm beat right now and don't want to fat finger something
20:49 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo ^ also for your book.
20:49 mircea_popescu phf with deedbot ? you don't need one, it's automatic.
20:49 phf oh, it just stays there until a withdraw?
20:49 mircea_popescu everyone else : he leaves on the 13th, deadline to send gear his way say 5 days prior or something like that
20:49 mircea_popescu phf aha.
20:49 phf jeez, that's some future technology
20:49 mircea_popescu trinque made it.
20:50 mircea_popescu phf reserve anyway, can pay within 24 hours
20:54 hanbot <mircea_popescu> and they have bicycle lanes, which i find intolerable. << not only lanes; it was claimed by at least one local that on sundays all principal roads are closed to cars --bikes only.
~ 1 hours 27 minutes ~
22:21 mod6 *whew* New kitchen sink faucet: Installed.
22:25 trinque just got some new drapes up myself.
22:25 * trinque can pull the withdraw lever any time this evening, no problem.
22:25 mod6 that was last weekend for me. and a new coat of paint through 35% of the house.
22:26 trinque hanbot: reminds me of cancerous fags in portland agitating for "car-free downtown"
22:26 trinque mod6: nice
22:27 mod6 hopefully done with home-projects for a bit nao
22:31 asciilifeform old-time su had ~ideal cars/m^2 .
22:32 asciilifeform or at the very least, not far.
22:37 phf i spent about half hour trying to crimp rj45. i completely lost the skill, nor do i, turns out, have the right tools. you've not lived unless you've tried to crimp each individual contact with pliers
22:46 ben_vulpes i emerged @world three times and started working through hanon's piano exercises!
22:46 ben_vulpes trinque: shit has gotten intolerably shrill. "vehicular homicide!"
~ 25 minutes ~
23:12 asciilifeform phf: at least you didnt try to solder'em. at one time asciilifeform fell to that depth.
23:14 mod6 http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/bogota-123.jpg << this is awesome, look how simpatico y feliz the llama is!
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