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00:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform in your dreams, white boy.
00:01 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes not even that ; i see nothing here but george costanza's retort to the observation he did no work : "but consider, i am in the smaller office". the chick's not hot, she's average at best. her face's all weird etc. BUT! she makes her own costumes! out of construction paper!
00:02 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: just the geniuses who accepted payment via natobank
00:02 mircea_popescu she's ~the chick that gives sorry excuses of teethy blowjobs and buys you beer
00:02 asciilifeform hey it was in völkischer beobachter, must be fact!11111
00:03 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: there is still 2 or three years of these wunkderkids for the mpaa to chew through before cockboxmaster or ($seen) Framedragger get their butts off the couch and make a wot-blessed tracker
00:03 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes as to the other point - fetishism is still unhealthy. samatha fox was, sex toy or no, still samatha fox. and if someone cornered her in a dark alley and stuck it in her, the rape happened to samantha.
00:03 mircea_popescu but princess leila ? poor her.
00:04 ben_vulpes leila's rape being the ip infringement?
00:04 mircea_popescu do you perceive the difference between "im raping you because i think you're fucking hot" and "i'm raping you because i'm fixated on a character i've decided you represent" ?
00:05 mircea_popescu pro tip : the former don't usually figure in serial killing files. the latter rarely don't figure in serial killing profiles.
00:05 ben_vulpes hm.
00:07 asciilifeform does it make substantial difference to the rapee?
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00:07 asciilifeform this why
00:07 ben_vulpes that's kind of where i'm stuck too
00:07 mircea_popescu i think so, yes.
00:07 ben_vulpes maybe the latter is more likely to actually get knifed at the end?
00:07 ben_vulpes by mircea_popescu's claim
00:08 mircea_popescu for one thing. but even without that...insanity is never a good thing in the mix.
00:08 ben_vulpes yeah but homegirl /just got raped/
00:08 mircea_popescu still not the same.
00:08 mircea_popescu i posit a good comparison is "tb patient spit in your mouth. does it make a difference if you have aids ?"
00:08 ben_vulpes what same, few girls conniseurs of the act.
00:09 mircea_popescu "ewww, spit in mouth" "yes, yes... but..."
00:10 ben_vulpes "you got raped. does it make a difference that you were dressed in your leila costume?"?
00:10 mircea_popescu take one single point of reference, i think it works pars pro toto : "She says that entrepreneurs need to have a thick skin. “Just don’t care” is her advice. She says you need to just keep going – remember, the internet is a cruel and malicious place for a girl in a bikini top and elf ears."
00:10 mircea_popescu the previous set were all about "love and open up to the world and blablabla"
00:11 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes but she's not merely DRESSED in the costume.
00:11 ben_vulpes what praytell is she
00:12 mircea_popescu nothing. that's the problem. "but the vast majority who have aligned their psychology with this vector will pursue an impossible fantasy at the expense of their labor and their lives." is the ballas quote.
00:13 mircea_popescu there's no difference between girl who's not hot squeaking her way into modelling job because she's willing to make her own costumes, and that misfortunate math assistant professor i mentioned yonder long ago in the logs and alf prolly still remembers.
00:13 asciilifeform aaah
00:13 mircea_popescu insanity is never a good thing in the mix.
00:14 asciilifeform $s she's a furniture
00:14 a111 0 results for "she's a furniture", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=she's%20a%20furniture
00:14 asciilifeform hm
00:14 mircea_popescu what was it, 2014 maybe ?
00:16 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-19#761488
00:16 a111 Logged on 2014-07-19 03:15 mircea_popescu: now among this dozen, there was a mentally retarded girl. she wasn't badly touched, maybe 80 or so. definitely enough to take care of herself. definitely not enough for high level math. her parents however were i dun recall what academic country gentry, and so they insisted she go.
00:16 mircea_popescu ding.
00:18 asciilifeform sooo the contemplated model has 'princess leia' in the role of visual basic? elevating the marginal?
00:18 asciilifeform to 'enough to be danger to self and others'
00:19 asciilifeform ?
00:20 mircea_popescu i wouldn't say elevating. it's an elevator shaft, it ... you know what ? it's mcdevil quickfaust, is what it is.
00:20 mircea_popescu allows people to sell their soul, quick and cheap.
00:21 mircea_popescu if you're gonna sell it, at least sell it in a ditch, fighting to exterminate the jews or to not exterminate the jews or something.
00:21 mircea_popescu ya know ?
00:21 BingoBoingo OMG you stole the name I was gonna give woodchipper when I pick one up
00:21 mircea_popescu lol!
00:21 BingoBoingo Put sign on chipper "Insert Hand for Wish Evaluation"
00:22 asciilifeform lel just as mircea_popescu mentioned jooz i happened to be reading bio of streicher.
00:22 mircea_popescu lulzy thing with him. "why did they draw a hitler moustache on him ??" "nono, he ~wore~ that. it was a fashion at the time. like bell bottoms." "ooh"
00:26 ben_vulpes eeeeeentirely unrelatedly, mircea_popescu is there a way to set post slugs in mp-wp?
00:27 mircea_popescu what's a post slug ?
00:27 ben_vulpes blog/<slug>
00:27 ben_vulpes you know, in case one might want to preserve previous urls
00:27 mircea_popescu huh ?
00:27 ben_vulpes http://trilema.com/<custom_url>
00:28 mircea_popescu look for any time i typoed a title. the old url still works.
00:28 mircea_popescu a yes, you can name the url anything you wish, just click on it under the title when editing an article
00:29 mircea_popescu there's a Permalink: http://trilema.com/2016/giro-girotondo…bello-il-mondo/ Edit << that button.
00:30 ben_vulpes cool permalink shows up in source but not on the page
00:31 mircea_popescu uh,/
00:31 mircea_popescu see in settings, permalinks
00:32 mircea_popescu custom structure, /%year%/%postname%/
00:32 mircea_popescu then it should do it.
00:32 ben_vulpes sweet
00:32 ben_vulpes danke
00:33 ben_vulpes hm so would it be possible to keep the year/month/ for most post titles but override it on a per-post basis
00:33 mircea_popescu likely, but as i've never needed to i don't have it at the ready.
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00:51 ben_vulpes mk
00:51 ben_vulpes so here's a dumblarious notion: move all the old html into the webserver root to preserve links, and then make a dummy post for each page that redirects to the correct flat html file
00:52 ben_vulpes part a is trivial, and works, but oh man part b
00:59 mircea_popescu eh just put a htaccess rule from old to new name scheme
01:01 danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518208 << yes. see : http://trilema.com/2014/consent-is-a-myth-lets-see-how-it-came-to-be/ >> It'd be nice, you know, if one didn't have to go to work encased in ballistic armor, if one didn't have to probe all food items for shit, and if one could rely on the notion that if on the receiving end of a sexual proposition, that proposition stems from something direct rather than from some sort of met
01:01 a111 Logged on 2016-08-11 04:07 asciilifeform: does it make substantial difference to the rapee?
01:01 mircea_popescu "if i hang, let it be for something i did"
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02:22 ben_vulpes http://archive.is/9uTWt << dig the sweet aqua ui widgetry
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03:54 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=4979
03:58 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=4976
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04:16 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
04:16 gribble Current Blocks: 424667 | Current Difficulty: 2.0189321085305896E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 425375 | Next Difficulty In: 708 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 6 hours, 48 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
04:17 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
04:17 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 591.55, vol: 5162.64618537 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 587.001, vol: 11302.10087 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 591.5, vol: 30145.15648888 | GDAX BTCUSD last: 593.98, vol: 8502.30713739 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 597.334111, vol: 96760.28270000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 593.32, vol: 1829.30723989 | Gemini BTCUSD last: 595.94, vol: 1220.13295715 | OKCoin BTCUSD last: 597.483304, vol: (1 more message)
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05:16 diana_coman $key DarkSonic1338
05:16 deedbot http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/9c7bd6a3-9245-4f4d-853d-dce093f7c329/
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10:17 deedbot http://trinque.org/2016/08/10/ircbot-genesis/ << trinque - ircbot-genesis.vpatch
10:19 asciilifeform https://twitter.com/Grurray/status/763734969113907200 << lelz
10:32 trinque ty mircea_popescu for the blogotron.
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10:35 thestringpuller now you gotta blog everyday!
10:35 * thestringpuller isn't kidding' anyone. he misses days nonstop.
10:37 trinque I have a backlog of ~/src that'll get me through at least a coupla days :p
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10:41 asciilifeform congrats trinque !
10:45 trinque ty asciilifeform
10:53 asciilifeform sooo i attempted test of https://protonmail.com/blog/openpgpjs-email-encryption as a suspected http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514630 , and discovered that it is plain and simple nonsense, won't import public keys at all! uses only pantomime of pgp
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10:53 a111 Logged on 2016-08-04 15:38 asciilifeform: 'though the pgp keys in question do not import into gpg, they can be imported in a couple javascript pgp-trons: https://www.igolder.com/PGP/encryption/ and http://ianpurton.com/online-pgp/ ...'
10:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu et al ^
10:55 asciilifeform it ~exports~ user's pubkey, but does not - as far as i can tell - have a knob for ~importing pubkeys~, checking signatures of incoming messages, etc.
10:56 asciilifeform 'trade power for the fetish of power' (tm) (r) (tlp).
10:56 thestringpuller you really trust ~anything~ written in javascript?
10:56 asciilifeform as if browser-based crapola weren't bad enough
10:56 asciilifeform thestringpuller: i was testing it as a potential eater of khadeer-style keys.
10:56 thestringpuller aha
10:57 asciilifeform recall, searching for pgptrons which accept malsigned or otherwise malformed pubkeys.
10:58 asciilifeform initially i missed the www-based crapolade entirely, because it simply did not occur to me that any serious number of people were dumb enough to ~use~ such a thing
10:58 asciilifeform and that anyone might bother targeting it specifically.
11:01 thestringpuller jgarzik was pushing opengpgjs for years
11:02 thestringpuller until he made that tweet danielpbarron archived "gpg needs to die cause grandma can't use it"
11:02 asciilifeform thestringpuller: do you know of a place where one can conveniently test, without putting in actual work, what pubkeys the thing eats ?
11:02 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A15EACE4291DE6EAFA302572F54E054491218AF959463E119A212D1F84EAD475 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 145544767271628355021138948218065922887438243793500802858250927035792218021368837104580302613837780224469761940120270148077180710981969418009963290863877670291808435992750304731263006678948717022881724044383602277016851556973015660700026601928834951780095058287489657831666623472681031667044818814731200102877 divides RS
11:03 thestringpuller i've never used opengpg.js but most of those things have some kind of "demo" version so you don't have to touch the code yourself without gloves
11:03 asciilifeform lel for a second i almost expected ^ that to be the protonmail turd i threw in.
11:03 asciilifeform thestringpuller: it doesn't appear to
11:03 asciilifeform anyone willing to test ?
11:11 asciilifeform ( http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6BFB175C42F58F1ABF33255B7DD755C4DE78E5294765EDDBBED2F4B8FDE6B3CF , for the record. and no, they don't let luser adjust key size, it is always 2048, nor the hash - it is always sha256, nor any other knobs save for the username )
11:11 phf i never grok why some of these javascript libraries don't just provide a demo console. "everything you need is loaded on this page, feel free to run your browser's dev console"
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11:11 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A15EACE4291DE6EAFA302572F54E054491218AF959463E119A212D1F84EAD475 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 145544767271628355021138948218065922887438243793500802858250927035792218021368837104580302613837780224469761940120270148077180710981969418009963290863877670291808435992750304731263006678948717022881724044383602277016851556973015660700026601928834951780095058287489657831666623472681031667044818814731200102877 divides RS
11:11 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CDA444B217B93BD108B3681B3E46D2F81DDE108A156E84E696789DB8D3074A06 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 145544767271628355021138948218065922887438243793500802858250927035792218021368837104580302613837780224469761940120270148077180710981969418009963290863877670291808435992750304731263006678948717022881724044383602277016851556973015660700026601928834951780095058287489657831666623472681031667044818814731200102877 divides RS
11:11 asciilifeform phf: the ones linked earlier (and now referred to in phuctor faq) do.
11:12 asciilifeform lel
11:14 phf i don't think it's the same beast as openpgpjs, since the later does seem to support keys
11:15 asciilifeform phf: it would appear that openwhateverjs supports all of the basic knobs, but the protonmail idiocy did not bother to expose them
11:16 phf cute, protonmail spits "We're hiring! https://protonmail.com/careers" into console
11:22 asciilifeform A15E... , CDA4..., << incidentally, venezuela.
11:28 phf how do i convert a binary key to its armorerd counterpart, without importing into keyring?
11:29 asciilifeform phuctor doesn't shit out 'binary' keys
11:29 asciilifeform or is this from some other place
11:30 asciilifeform iirc it was something like gpg --enarmor foo.gpg
11:30 asciilifeform but if you're using a key exported from phuctor, you never need to do this
11:30 asciilifeform (or from sks, or any sane place)
11:31 phf phuctor seems to be producing "armored files" of keys, where's openpgpjs expectes it to be in "public key block" format
11:31 asciilifeform phf: link to which key ?
11:31 phf http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DDDE667282B355D21D9F0E3505442E332AB082F487BFFC440034D11D636FD6A7
11:32 asciilifeform see, each key is what came out of sks or whoever dumped it in.
11:32 asciilifeform in this case, you can replace the header only
11:32 asciilifeform and it will work.
11:32 phf ah
11:41 phf well, i can read the key with proton's opengpg implementation, can't generate one though
11:42 asciilifeform read, and encrypt to it ?
11:42 asciilifeform and try verify sigs, etc ?
11:44 trinque o.O
11:50 asciilifeform in other nyooz, apparently the word 'screw' is censored by some idiot forum app, http://www.foundcollection.com/15_7ebad456d0b67430_1.htm
11:51 asciilifeform 'It's annoying to deal with because the motor has to be loosened so that the belt can be removed so that one can get to the set ***on the pulley. If you have the same problem be forewarned that there is a small flat on the spindle shaft that the set***should be aligned with.'
11:51 asciilifeform the well of idiocy is truly bottomless.
12:02 mircea_popescu o hallo alf
12:03 asciilifeform mircea_popescu !
12:03 mircea_popescu nice fat factors this morn eh.
12:04 asciilifeform the usual 2.
12:05 mircea_popescu i think this may be the longest yet neh ?
12:05 asciilifeform nah
12:05 mircea_popescu 311 digits ? we got longer ?
12:07 asciilifeform champ : 126044733741731328742413066718552314382419228167112456334027928884317367999330241024168451126326383475145520025295451544372438227070210798265767098934250820341305937931860061514790268968891523470454082874208728274680634763462042122485524526243688604432591998753006364684812749745538152702859571396997177876337
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12:07 asciilifeform (aug. 1)
12:07 asciilifeform today's is in third place.
12:08 asciilifeform after 115689563593438224355064235381090056755163859480449174433830003975037467950966309481394007709292222401673721911305757070903002186880134248491556817065874097861521564574240083326343937488908899708599174992366919884328839153192482261044065875685676447097938344009705169081015113163350134173402351902967563106577
12:08 asciilifeform (april the 30th, 2016)
12:09 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1512386 << champ
12:09 a111 Logged on 2016-08-01 19:47 deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 126044733741731328742413066718552314382419228167112456334027928884317367999330241024168451126326383475145520025295451544372438227070210798265767098934250820341305937931860061514790268968891523470454082874208728274680634763462042122485524526243688604432591998753006364684812749745538152702859571396997177876337 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '<>&%"\${}`'deadbeef1; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/617706D7A6FC1817D01
12:09 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-26#1252559 << runner-up
12:09 a111 Logged on 2015-08-26 14:42 asciilifeform: gcd==115689563593438224355064235381090056755163859480449174433830003975037467950966309481394007709292222401673721911305757070903002186880134248491556817065874097861521564574240083326343937488908899708599174992366919884328839153192482261044065875685676447097938344009705169081015113163350134173402351902967563106577
12:10 asciilifeform ^ looks like it was in classic phuctor's set
12:10 asciilifeform so today's is the longest ssh mod busted yet.
12:10 asciilifeform (as neither the gold nor silver medalist was an ssh mod)
12:11 asciilifeform in other nyooz, seems like they moved argentina to egypt: http://english.alarabiya.net/en/business/markets/2016/08/10/Egypt-closes-48-forex-bureaus-in-black-market-crackdown.html
12:11 asciilifeform 'Egypt’s central bank has closed 48 foreign exchange bureaus since the start of the year for trading at black market rates and other violations, banking sources said on Wednesday, as the country tries to end speculation against the Egyptian pound. Egypt has accelerated a crackdown against black market traders it blames for growing pressure to devalue the currency. The dollar is being sold on the black market for about 12.65 to 12.7
12:11 asciilifeform 5 Egyptian pounds, according to traders, far more than the official rate of 8.78.'
12:13 mircea_popescu aha. so there.
12:14 mircea_popescu ftr it was 5.5 in 2004. so this would be 250% inflation over a little more than a decade.
12:14 asciilifeform ~=usd
12:15 mircea_popescu ~8% pa
12:15 PeterL on top of US inflation
12:15 mircea_popescu yes.
12:16 mircea_popescu let it be noted that in a deeply conservative (this means things other than you think - it mostly means stupid, lazy males), mostly rural society inflation is actually a good thing
12:16 mircea_popescu as it dislodges the meat robots from their comforts and forces them into towns.
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12:16 asciilifeform stalin waves hello
12:16 mircea_popescu quite so.
12:16 mircea_popescu also how france beat germany in 1800s : inflation was actually a useful governance tool.
12:18 asciilifeform inflation was not a plague dropped down by martians, no.
12:20 asciilifeform rather, sorta the macroeconomic version of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-05#1515459 .
12:20 a111 Logged on 2016-08-05 14:26 asciilifeform: tape speed knob did not make the beatles, nor dope made erdos.
12:26 * covertress wishes she had more time to join in such discussions. ^ fascinating.
12:26 covertress good day, mircea_popescu. excuse me please, I'm merely passing through.
12:26 mircea_popescu hello.
12:27 covertress :)
12:28 covertress mircea_popescu, by chance might there be an opportunity for us to meet, either in Toronto (17-18 Aug) or in Shanghai (18-25 Sept)?
12:29 covertress alternately Luxembourg next April
12:30 mircea_popescu or you could just come to ba.
12:30 covertress :)
12:30 covertress perhaps then, as I travel through Europe next year.
12:31 asciilifeform mircea_popescu will have to remember to move ba to europe...
12:31 shinohai lo
12:31 asciilifeform (hopefully he has not misplaced its ignition key)
12:32 covertress lulz all you like, asciilifeform, just implied that it would be in closer proximity
12:32 trinque than?!
12:32 covertress than Shanghai, trinque
12:32 mircea_popescu ba is buenos aires.
12:32 mircea_popescu though it'd appear i'd have liked it better back when it was buenos ayres.
12:32 covertress thank you, mircea_popescu. my apologies. did not know the reference. :O
12:33 mircea_popescu you're lucky with me ; the locals call it "caba". because see, ciudad autonoma!
12:33 PeterL BA and Europe both touch Atlantic, therefore they must be nearby each other
12:33 * shinohai should make a white supremacy group and call it "Buenas Aryans"
12:33 mircea_popescu shinohai why not buenas aryanas ?
12:33 mircea_popescu could be a white-sexual-supremacy group.
12:34 shinohai aha!
12:34 covertress I'll be in touch, mircea_popescu. Perhaps I can alter my return plans from Shanghai.
12:34 mircea_popescu $google "italians do it better"
12:34 deedbot http://italiansdoitbetter.bigcartel.com/ << Italians Do It Better — Home | https://www.facebook.com/ITALIANSDOITBETTER/ << ITALIANS DO IT BETTER | Facebook | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians_Do_It_Better << Italians Do It Better - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
12:34 * covertress waves bye. must run!
12:34 mircea_popescu (ftr, they'd better do IT better, god knows they suck at everything else)
12:34 asciilifeform giro, giro tondo!1111212121
12:35 mircea_popescu werd.
12:35 asciilifeform for some reason ^ is symlinked in my head to kurt vonnegut's 'round and round and round we spin, with feet of lead and wings of tin'
12:36 mircea_popescu justabout, really.
12:36 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518284 << o hey it werked ? i'm glad.
12:36 a111 Logged on 2016-08-11 14:32 trinque: ty mircea_popescu for the blogotron.
12:36 mircea_popescu covertress what's the rush anyway.
12:37 mircea_popescu teh impossible vector beckons ?
12:37 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518287 << yeah, get back to me after a year. which, here like in classical college education, is teh minimal qual.
12:37 a111 Logged on 2016-08-11 14:37 trinque: I have a backlog of ~/src that'll get me through at least a coupla days :p
12:38 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518290 << js crypto ? really ? god help us.
12:38 a111 Logged on 2016-08-11 14:53 asciilifeform: sooo i attempted test of https://protonmail.com/blog/openpgpjs-email-encryption as a suspected http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514630 , and discovered that it is plain and simple nonsense, won't import public keys at all! uses only pantomime of pgp
12:38 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: see the 'added to faq' thread.
12:39 asciilifeform right now it is the strongest suspect for 'eats rubbish keys'
12:39 mircea_popescu im gettin' there.
12:39 asciilifeform (no version of, e.g., gpg, appears to)
12:40 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518311 << because that'd make sense.
12:40 a111 Logged on 2016-08-11 15:11 phf: i never grok why some of these javascript libraries don't just provide a demo console. "everything you need is loaded on this page, feel free to run your browser's dev console"
12:41 covertress no particular rush, mircea_pepescu, at least from your perspective.
12:43 mircea_popescu hey, you said you gotta run. i gather you aim to be a sort of project manager for some eth fork whatever - bear in mind that nobody ever respects the rushed. you want people to look up to you, never run.
12:44 covertress apologies again but, I have many logistics to rush towards completion prior to my travels. I do not have a secretary yet.
12:44 covertress thank you for the lessson.
12:45 covertress I must indeed go now. Appointments await.
12:45 covertress good day, mircea_popescu :)
12:45 mircea_popescu cheerios.
12:47 thestringpuller secretaries are so corporate. what you need is a chief of staff.
12:48 mircea_popescu ahahaha wtf - censored "screw" ? really ? what's next, do bolt and nail also, be done with it ?
12:48 mircea_popescu joining things together is so oppressive and antilibertarian! all parts must float free into the sunset!
12:49 asciilifeform next to go: 'nail'.
12:49 asciilifeform (hey, one can nail people as well as screw, etc)
12:49 mircea_popescu rifles don't kill people, BOLTS KILL PEOPLE
12:49 asciilifeform nailgunz dun kill people, nails...
12:51 deedbot http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-irc-so-hard/ << Trilema - Why is IRC so hard ?
12:51 asciilifeform they even substituted '***', and not '*****'
12:55 mircea_popescu eerily related to trilema article deedbot spit out.
12:55 mircea_popescu "How does the bitter black fungus keep out the tasty lactic bacteria ? Certainly not directly ; it's a terraforming process you see. Which is why you can't "just want to" : either you permit it or you don't permit it. There's no third option available."
12:56 mircea_popescu obviously, the managerial imbecile didn't specifically aim to make life hard for engineers. nevertheless - it's either one or the other, and if you're not actively oppressing people who know how things should be, you're then therefore actively oppressing people who are curious as to how things actually are.
12:56 mircea_popescu there just isn't a third road.
13:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-irc-so-hard/#comment-118459
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13:18 mircea_popescu answer't!
13:22 shinohai Speaking of "Why is irc so hard" you have another incoming Colombian slut mircea_popescu
13:28 shinohai $up melissasexy
13:28 deedbot melissasexy voiced for 30 minutes.
13:29 melissasexy Hola mircea_popescu aqui estoy para http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-t
13:35 mircea_popescu escribe b58fe7aa sur su tetas melissasexy
13:35 mircea_popescu sur lol. sobre.
13:36 melissasexy ok
13:36 mircea_popescu and in other reach measurement news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/113e64ed3f4c6f73e01e304e13939f0f/tumblr_na6ameigP11qzw1zio1_400.gif
13:37 deedbot http://trilema.com/2016/overheard-in-my-kitchen/ << Trilema - Overheard in my kitchen
13:41 melissasexy http://i.imgur.com/9fgI51i.png?1
13:42 asciilifeform sc4m!11111 i see 0.5 tit
13:42 melissasexy http://i.imgur.com/9fgI51i.png?1
13:42 shinohai O.o
13:43 asciilifeform y'know, posting 0.5 tit twice, or even 4x, doesn't add up to 1.0 tit
13:43 asciilifeform 2.0
13:43 mircea_popescu melissasexy yeah that's not right. look at the other girls, do the same thing.
13:43 mircea_popescu shinohai say it en espanol por favor.
13:44 shinohai On it
13:44 asciilifeform melissasexy: dos tetas completas por favor.
13:47 melissasexy ok
13:47 melissasexy http://i.imgur.com/iLASXvE.png?1
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13:48 mircea_popescu nice. address ?
13:48 melissasexy 1K266dX8wLM1Fi63C1GeaA8DwAGdLH6BPo
13:49 mircea_popescu sent.
13:49 mircea_popescu shinohai with all this herding experience you're accumulating, you'll be ready to start your own brothel in no time.
13:50 melissasexy gracias
13:50 deedbot http://trinque.org/2016/08/11/logbot-genesis/ << trinque - logbot-genesis.vpatch
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13:50 mircea_popescu oooo
13:52 shinohai mircea_popescu: :D
13:53 shinohai Sent me an email asking if id help xD
13:54 mircea_popescu check out that wall behind her ; somewhere in colombia there is this multi-layered cam-whoring building, fo sho.
13:54 mircea_popescu sort-of like an indian call center except the girls are naked and instead of chair there's a ~mat.
13:54 shinohai lol
13:58 mircea_popescu in other news, http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/#comment-118463 << adjusting payout to 2 bitcents.
14:01 shinohai Ah so she was the last luck girl to get 0.1?
14:05 mircea_popescu aha.
14:05 mircea_popescu hey, they had two years to get shit in order.
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14:38 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518471 << this is mighty spiffy trinque. is this based on phf's gadget, or a new thing ?
14:38 a111 Logged on 2016-08-11 17:50 deedbot: http://trinque.org/2016/08/11/logbot-genesis/ << trinque - logbot-genesis.vpatch
14:39 trinque asciilifeform: phf contributed some code that was modified a bit and placed in ircbot
14:39 trinque logbot's something other than a111
14:39 asciilifeform very neat.
14:39 phf though a111 now looks pretty much the same, since i copy pasted a bunch of code
14:39 asciilifeform btw trinque is the 'mp-wp' you are using available somewhere ?
14:40 asciilifeform i would like to crib it.
14:40 trinque asciilifeform: isn't, but I can package it up later. I hand-applied phf's patch to a custom skin mangled from the "classic" skin.
14:41 phf originally i was trying to tame the complexity of all the auth/ghost/join blah by having a state machine, but it got unmanageable, so i unded up dropping back to same approach as in logbot
14:41 asciilifeform exactly what i tried to do in july, but it turned to shit in my midas hands
14:41 asciilifeform (re mpwp)
14:41 trinque I channeled my inner php shitlord and got it to work
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14:42 * asciilifeform was ruined for wwwism by programming on systems having actual debuggers...
14:42 trinque imagine my wonder going the other direction :p
14:43 asciilifeform it is a handicap that is perhaps curable, but do i ~want~ it cured.
14:43 asciilifeform as naggum put it, 'do i want to learn to run the deep-fryer ?'
14:45 trinque this is why I went ahead and installed wp-mp instead of finishing the lispy thing I was hacking together.
14:45 trinque web needs to die, not be fixed
14:45 trinque to be replaced by gossiptronic "hey does anyone have the doc with hash X" say
14:47 asciilifeform trinque: 'get doc from dht' is right and proper, but says nothing about the format of said doc
14:49 mats http://www.businessinsider.com/the-dark-side-of-silicon-valley-according-to-a-teenager-who-grew-up-there-2016-8
14:49 ben_vulpes "no formats, no format wars!"
14:49 mats i feel that
14:49 ben_vulpes anyways, i am *still* looking for the comment-fixin patch
14:49 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: right, on lispm.
14:49 ben_vulpes but have a mountain of shit to move, and it's not like it's a blocker in any regard
14:50 asciilifeform didn't ben_vulpes already have a blogotron ?
14:50 asciilifeform what was it made of ?
14:51 asciilifeform mats: Bellarmine highschool! l0l! do tell me that it was named for the cardinal
14:51 mats it's a Catholic prep school iirc so probably
14:52 asciilifeform si muove!11111111
14:52 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: heinous org export
14:52 asciilifeform i wanna take astronomy class at bellarmine.
14:52 asciilifeform dontcha ?
14:53 trinque asciilifeform │ trinque: 'get doc from dht' is right and proper, but says nothing about the format of said doc << indeed
14:53 asciilifeform anyway mats that piece is a mega-snore, i went to a school just like that one, but on other side of the continent, they are common as dirt
14:55 mats iirc bellarmine is also an all male school, so i hope you enjoy butt stuff
14:55 asciilifeform lel
14:55 asciilifeform http://www.businessinsider.com/harry-reid-on-widening-democratic-hack-my-emails-are-so-boring-not-even-putin-wants-to-read-them-2016-8 << from same rag.
14:55 asciilifeform '"[Trump] is an enabler of Putin, former head of the KGB, and of course is leading all these hacks," Reid said. "It should be a message to America that you can't hold hands with Putin."'
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14:55 mats i grew up in sv, can confirm it was weird
14:55 asciilifeform ENABLER!!111111
14:56 asciilifeform wrecker!
14:58 trinque I just want to know who beat Harry's ass a while back.
14:59 trinque his face is still fucked up from it.
15:04 asciilifeform unrelatedly,
15:04 asciilifeform 'The continued growth and acceptance of virtual currencies has contributed to increasing exploitation by criminals seeking to sell illegal drugs in the United States. Reporting indicates Colombian TCOs may be using Bitcoin as a tool to conduct TBML schemes between the United States and Colombia. TCOs purchase bitcoins in the United States with drug proceeds and then buy merchandise from the wide range of US-based businesses that acce
15:04 asciilifeform pt bitcoins. The merchandise can include phone and Internet minutes, tickets for events or travel, clothes, or luxury items. The merchandise is shipped to Colombia for resale as in a traditional TBML scheme...'
15:05 asciilifeform ( from massive usg lulproclamation, https://www.dea.gov/docs/2015%20NDTA%20Report.pdf )
15:05 asciilifeform 'TBML' is a usgtronic term, 'trade-based money laundry'
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15:21 asciilifeform 'In January 2014, a teen crossing the US–Mexico border at the San Ysidro POE claimed the two bottles he carried were apple juice. Upon further questioning, the teen volunteered to drink from the bottles and died hours later from acute methamphetamine intoxication.'
15:21 asciilifeform many lulz.
15:27 asciilifeform https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/08/11/i-yelled-back-a-few-expletives-racially-charged-trump-t-shirt-dispute-ends-in-attack << in other lulz for BingoBoingo .
~ 23 minutes ~
15:51 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Related In Gawker Media's final week before Ziff Davis takes over opened a "men's magazine" called "the cuck"
16:01 shinohai In honour of Nick Denton I presume?
16:02 BingoBoingo Prolly a Hulk Hogan joke
16:16 mats i wonder how much meth you can dissolve into 240ml of water
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16:18 PeterL LD50 about 50 mg/kg, only need 5 g for a 100 kg person, seems reasonable
16:20 mats but how much product was he carrying if it was two 240ml containers?
16:20 BingoBoingo small town "police sergeant" so figure 125-375 kg
16:21 BingoBoingo Oh, different case
16:21 * ben_vulpes saw tactical suspenders on his ride in the other day
16:21 PeterL about .9 mg/mL, so 216 mg each? seems kinda low
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16:21 ben_vulpes subject of "police" and "sergeant"s
16:22 BingoBoingo lol
16:22 * BingoBoingo wonders where the fabled guide to motorized wheelchair combat is
16:23 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518545 << nobody said it were wholly in solution...
16:23 a111 Logged on 2016-08-11 20:21 PeterL: about .9 mg/mL, so 216 mg each? seems kinda low
16:23 PeterL but it should be more soluble in acidic solution, so depending on how it was prepared it might be more concentrated than that
16:23 asciilifeform so long as it is in the bottle, and got out
16:24 asciilifeform (consider a bottle of powder, 0 fluid)
16:25 PeterL who is going to claim a powder is apple juice? but yes, would not nescesarily all be dissolved
16:26 asciilifeform fella who would rather croak than go to american jail? will claim.
16:31 PeterL actually, I wouldn't be suprised if meth would dissolve better in apple juice than plain water, so maybe he was telling the truth?
16:35 asciilifeform seems likely that >5g would fit in there, one way or another.
16:35 asciilifeform who the hell would even want to smuggle <5g in a bottle, and why.
16:35 asciilifeform (to sip on the way to work??)
16:36 PeterL right? I guess he didn't realize that it was poisonous in large quantities
16:36 asciilifeform it would be quite fitting if the cartel caught a dea guy, tied him to a pole, and forced to drink whole barrel of whisky
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16:36 asciilifeform or coffee. whichever.
16:40 PeterL 6.25 gallons of coffee would do it
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18:32 asciilifeform ;;seen williamdunne
18:32 gribble I have not seen williamdunne.
18:33 asciilifeform 'отряд не заметил потери бойца' (tm) (r).
18:35 asciilifeform ;;seen polarbeard
18:35 gribble I have not seen polarbeard.
18:36 asciilifeform ;;seen punkman
18:36 gribble punkman was last seen in #trilema 12 weeks, 6 days, 16 hours, 18 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <punkman> it does but you need various packages to compile it
18:36 asciilifeform ;;seen gabriel_laddel
18:36 gribble gabriel_laddel was last seen in #trilema 5 weeks, 1 day, 17 hours, 4 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <gabriel_laddel> wtf else are you going to do?
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19:00 phf %seen polarbeard
19:00 phf $seen polarbeard
19:00 a111 2016-03-14 <polarbeard> sheep must be managed in large groups
19:01 phf #seen polarbeard
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19:19 mircea_popescu aaand in other news, https://archive.is/WUB8Y
19:20 mats is mp admitting he reads the reddit?
19:20 * mats looks shocked
19:21 mircea_popescu we just report the news, we don't make the news.
19:21 mircea_popescu why, was the reading properly signed ?
19:22 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518494 << nb lol.
19:22 a111 Logged on 2016-08-11 18:41 trinque: I channeled my inner php shitlord and got it to work
19:33 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518522 <<< ahahaha what, trump is "of course" leading "these hacks" ? libertards concede seat at top of tech pyramid to redneck in chief ?
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19:33 a111 Logged on 2016-08-11 18:55 asciilifeform: '"[Trump] is an enabler of Putin, former head of the KGB, and of course is leading all these hacks," Reid said. "It should be a message to America that you can't hold hands with Putin."'
19:37 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518539 << 2aminopropane is water miscible ; amphetamine is very slightly soluble. moreover is competitively-soluble with all the sugar crap, so i'd be rather surprised if you can get 5g to stay unprecipitated in a bottle of off the shelf soda/juice/whatever.
19:37 a111 Logged on 2016-08-11 20:16 mats: i wonder how much meth you can dissolve into 240ml of water
19:41 mircea_popescu (fun fact : amphetamine was discovered by a romanian dude.)
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19:44 hanbot mircea_popescu: hence "omfg omfg o pula roz din fier cu luminite"?
19:44 mircea_popescu lol!
19:45 mircea_popescu was like 1880 or such
19:45 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518561 << http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-08#786824
19:45 a111 Logged on 2016-08-11 20:36 asciilifeform: it would be quite fitting if the cartel caught a dea guy, tied him to a pole, and forced to drink whole barrel of whisky
19:45 a111 Logged on 2014-08-08 08:23 mircea_popescu: "oh, no, he came out for olives six or seven times"
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20:14 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518588 << german, iirc, produced it, but never ate, just wrote down 'this is a thing' and moved on to next substituted benzene
20:14 a111 Logged on 2016-08-11 23:41 mircea_popescu: (fun fact : amphetamine was discovered by a romanian dude.)
20:15 asciilifeform or hm, edeleanu, working in germany
20:17 mircea_popescu mno, aha. see ?
20:18 phf gabriel_laddel wrote a mcclim tutorial https://common-lisp.net/project/mcclim/posts/CLIM-the-galaxys-most-advanced-graphics-toolkit.html
20:18 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518584 << the american derpmedia Official Truth is, best as i can discern, that a hack is not, as in actuality, a technological finesse, but a kind of window-smash vandalism
20:18 a111 Logged on 2016-08-11 23:33 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-11#1518522 <<< ahahaha what, trump is "of course" leading "these hacks" ? libertards concede seat at top of tech pyramid to redneck in chief ?
20:18 asciilifeform as if proggy broke when you whack it with Big Hammer enough times.
20:18 asciilifeform big, bad, putins, with BIG HAMMERZ!!!!111
20:19 phf (defvar lords '("mircea_popescu" "asciilifeform" "ben_vulpes")), heh you guys made the planet.lisp.org
20:20 asciilifeform lelrds
20:20 asciilifeform i think i was already in lisporg somewhere
20:20 asciilifeform in... comedy section
20:21 phf asciilifeform: nah, your still considered to be one of the authorities on lisp from ground up in teh kommuniti
20:21 mircea_popescu phf o.O
20:21 mircea_popescu see, i knew good things will happen if i stick around with him.
20:21 mircea_popescu LOOK MOM IM FAMOUS!
20:22 asciilifeform phf: aha i have a 31111111111117 s1t3 with a scanned copy of sussman's 'scheme83' !1111 dunforget.
20:22 phf asciilifeform: i don't actually know about that one :o
20:23 asciilifeform nm it was cliki's comedy page.
20:24 phf nah, i'm curious about the scheme83 website
20:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform good point re the "hack" thing. apparently the reason average cattle doesn't is because ... they CHOOSE not to. not because they cucking fouldn't to save their stinky hides
20:24 asciilifeform phf: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=46 and http://www.loper-os.org/?p=55 mostly.
20:24 mircea_popescu you know, just like "piracy"
20:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: quite like.
20:25 mircea_popescu "nobody would give you a fucking invite" "a what ?"
20:25 phf those comments
20:25 asciilifeform phf: fresh gas mask canister recommended.
20:25 mircea_popescu phf the sort of comments he gets on his blog never cease to amaze me.
20:26 mircea_popescu possibly what he got picked up as too, "check out this guy, earthworm beset by ants" or somesuch.
20:26 phf i like how ascii handles them "i invented what you're talking about, and you're wrong" "eat shit you turncoat"
20:27 asciilifeform http://www.cliki.net/Humor << now i recall, my thing is at the bottom (curator actually wrote and asked to feature it)
20:27 asciilifeform 'editors'
20:27 mircea_popescu https://archive.is/AcyWa << for the records.
20:27 mircea_popescu (there's also an old version, from like 2013)
20:27 asciilifeform nooooooo
20:27 asciilifeform not terry davis !
20:27 asciilifeform surely not gone?!
20:28 mircea_popescu ooya.
20:28 asciilifeform ah no
20:28 asciilifeform he moved. http://www.templeos.org
20:28 mircea_popescu well yes.
20:28 mircea_popescu but the page i mean.
20:28 asciilifeform yeah he quit payin' for domain. even the link on 'temple' is to archive.org.
20:29 mircea_popescu a sentiment i can appreciate. domains, really ?
20:31 phf i'm waiting for when we finally start sending hosts file to each other
20:32 asciilifeform gossip://6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452/.......
20:33 phf well, with custom hosts you can just type http://phf in your browser. that'll be kind of cool
20:33 asciilifeform well yes
20:34 asciilifeform (def-me-homies ((6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452 "mircea") ...... )
20:34 phf :)
20:34 mircea_popescu phf i dunno why the fuck i'd type "http".
20:35 asciilifeform who the hell does
20:35 asciilifeform you type h-TAB or whatever button that is on your martian box.
20:36 mircea_popescu one of the most egregious cases of derpy engineering choices. "http://" really bitch, because what, your browser is also going to do what, bitcoin:// ? and then www, because totallies, there's other stuff on the web than web.
20:36 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ftp
20:36 mircea_popescu you ftp with your browser ?
20:36 asciilifeform yes?
20:36 mircea_popescu a) can just http download anyway ; b) what.
20:36 mircea_popescu there is no "ftp". you mean sftp ?
20:37 asciilifeform i have own-written widgets that speak ftp over loopback strictly
20:37 asciilifeform it is easy protocol to implement, wat.
20:37 mircea_popescu i never ftp'd in a browser, nor would i.
20:37 asciilifeform granted.
20:37 mircea_popescu it has no fucking knobs. one step above pgp'ing in a browser.
20:38 asciilifeform granted you can't upload to ftp in browser (that i know of)
20:39 asciilifeform but hey, i even got shit here that talks ~tftp~
20:39 asciilifeform (think ftp, but no dirs and no files !)
20:39 asciilifeform ...or rather, 1 file.
20:41 mircea_popescu so you use browser ftp that can't upload. so then what does it do, this : http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ilasxve-560x456.png ?
20:41 mircea_popescu oh im sorry, fttp://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ilasxve-560x456.png ?
20:41 asciilifeform lel approx.
20:41 mircea_popescu genius!
20:41 asciilifeform anyway i cannot even remember when i last.
20:42 mircea_popescu why not do it right, big-bang://general-physics://your-mother-should-stop-fucking-drunks://http://www.somesite.dork
20:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you missed the plug-cable-from-socket-n-to-socket-m-in-plugboard part.
20:43 mircea_popescu you know, just in case you want to use the browser in an alternate universe.
20:43 mircea_popescu GOOD INGENIEURING!
20:44 asciilifeform (incidentally plugboards survived in analogue computers, which were manufactured ALMOST UNTIL '80s because ~actually easier to dataflow program on~)
20:44 mircea_popescu it'll be just good and ready to go, just replace big-bang at the outset with whatever other causative event happens in your alt-universe, all good.
20:44 asciilifeform big sneeze!
20:44 trinque phf │ well, with custom hosts you can just type http://phf in your browser. that'll be kind of cool << ben_vulpes and I were talking about this earlier
20:44 asciilifeform (or, i shit thee not, in japanese cosmogony, big spoodge)
20:45 trinque actually I think mircea_popescu first mentioned getting a vtronic hosts file going
20:45 trinque sounds like a great idea.
20:45 mircea_popescu aha.
20:45 asciilifeform trinque: not much use imho, a hostfile is the most intensely personal item possible, it is mapping of key fp's to friends' names.
20:46 mircea_popescu that doesn't speak to this.
20:46 asciilifeform well in the sense that i'm not sure what one wins from vtronic incarnation of it
20:46 mircea_popescu you can have a canonical copy unrelatedly to whether you scribble on your copy or not.
20:46 asciilifeform you still gotta merge by hand.
20:47 asciilifeform well yes, canonical, e.g., mircea_popescu signature, '31.3.3.7 is mircea_popescu's w4r3z box', signed...
20:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform put it this way : whether i call her "big tits" or whatever else, she can still be "susan b. anthony" in public.
20:47 asciilifeform (istanbul, incidentally, for all i know it IS mircea_popescu's pr0n box...)
20:47 asciilifeform right.
20:47 mircea_popescu so that's the use.
20:48 mircea_popescu $g "because of my father i thought my name is jesus christ"
20:48 trinque list of republic sites, while we still use "sites"
20:50 ben_vulpes well i was sitting in the sun but i have to drive-by-comment now
20:50 ben_vulpes i quite rather would like to take my extant domains donw
20:50 trinque and while we still use fleanode
20:50 ben_vulpes i have no interest in perpetuating the global hash table as controlled by nato
20:52 ben_vulpes this presents the thorny problem of noobs not having the foggiest where ben_vulpes/r/<a_vastly_shorter_id> is actually located on the net
20:52 ben_vulpes perhaps just give them an ip addr?
20:52 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: hosts file can't possibly be more intimate than a gpg keyring
20:52 trinque ask some bot maybe
20:53 mircea_popescu trinque nothing wrong with having a http bridge.
20:53 ben_vulpes ;;later tell gabriel_laddel folx appreciated the lolz
20:53 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:53 mircea_popescu gopher is accessible over http for chrissakes.
20:53 ben_vulpes i would be entirely fine with an ip addr
20:53 mircea_popescu this is, incindentally, much better than "cloudflare".
20:53 mircea_popescu and amusingly enough, it would be perfectly fine for mpex, or any other "financial" site built correctly.
20:53 ben_vulpes but in light of lease-breaking fees and firing of everyone and general existential crises am going to go dip my butt in the river with child and babe.
20:55 phf well, if you guys concerned about dns ownership, you should look into ip range allocations sometime
20:55 mircea_popescu lol
20:56 mircea_popescu phf the idea of course being that eventually this will grow into actual routing,
20:56 mircea_popescu and while it would allow tcp/ip, it wouldn't be limited to tcp/ip
20:56 mircea_popescu maybe you know how to get my site via drone-usb.
20:57 mircea_popescu (drone usb is when a drone flies in between points a and b, and back again, carrying an usb stick it plugs in on arrival)
20:57 trinque I'm not opposed to incremental improvements as long as they, y'know, continue.
20:57 phf ^ http://pbfcomics.com/archive_b/PBF202-Post_Apocalyptic.jpg
20:57 mircea_popescu the great advantage being that the steps of the iteration === research.
20:58 mircea_popescu most of the things we've built came out of examining steps and making improvements.
20:58 mircea_popescu that started off as weirdisms and ended up as needed standards.
20:58 mircea_popescu (dunno who for instance recalls 2012 back when "logging irc" was "a bad idea" by "community agreement". freenode would still hold on to that idiocy hadn't it died meanwhile.)
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21:01 mircea_popescu and in other "poster child for why polycarbonate rocks", http://67.media.tumblr.com/ec8c88692a7438823e15e4722b21b57d/tumblr_n6sy0mat2r1tt1lr0o1_500.gif
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21:24 phf trinque: what happened to the bot vpatches?
21:25 phf oh it's on a blog now
21:31 phf not particularly interesting, since they are two independent codebases, but http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=bot
21:31 phf maybe one day(c)(tm) i'll be able to work on that thing again..
21:41 trinque neat
21:41 trinque all my v stuff is going to live at http://trinque.org/src
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22:34 phf trinque: you're on a book cover blurb ;) https://common-lisp.net/project/mcclim/excite.html
22:35 asciilifeform asciilifeform, meanwhile, sees 'extra cursor on this display' 'wait..' 'mosquito.'
22:35 asciilifeform gotta get out of this swamp.
22:36 mircea_popescu lol what is that phf ?
22:37 asciilifeform it's clim.
22:37 phf mircea_popescu: it's a ui for lisp that gabriel_laddel has been contributing to
22:37 asciilifeform world's best programmable graphics lib, but also looks like liquishit, and slow even on pentium-99999
22:37 * mircea_popescu looks in project about main, doesn't even see Philip Fominykh
22:37 mircea_popescu ah ah
22:38 asciilifeform https://common-lisp.net/project/mcclim/static/media/screenshots/NK8gdQd.png << lulzy
22:38 mircea_popescu in other news, making mega-ar post ; aficionados prepare.
22:39 phf it's sort of a universe in itself, i started looking at it again, because i'm doing some graphics work with lisp and needed a good gui toolkit. i'm using CAPI right now, which is proprietary and part of lispworks
22:40 asciilifeform when i was on a usg throne and had ~unlimited budget, i ordered ALL of the known commercial lisps (with exception of 'scineer') brought in.
22:40 asciilifeform it was interesting, and lispworks was spiffy.
22:42 phf sort of tempting to migrate all my lisp work there, because the ide is nice, but of course, proprietary
22:42 asciilifeform well you dun need the ide to deploy...
22:43 mircea_popescu not to mention it;s altogether unclear the republic will even enforce fiat-"proprietary"
22:43 asciilifeform https://common-lisp.net/project/mcclim/static/media/screenshots/XBgJbBH.png << lel
22:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i can scarcely picture republic sitting on ancient closed bins tho.
22:44 asciilifeform https://common-lisp.net/project/mcclim/static/media/screenshots/eAelY4L.png << lel, guybrush!!11
22:44 asciilifeform did everyone recognize him??
22:44 mircea_popescu there is also that.
22:46 trinque phf: saw that :) gabriel needs to hang around moar.
22:46 phf maybe he can port my scan editor to clim..
22:47 asciilifeform aha! so can haz schematicsz!!1111
22:47 asciilifeform i'd like to connect that tape deck to my 3620, for instance.
22:48 asciilifeform so i can perhaps back it up and dare to move it from the pedestal...
22:48 asciilifeform ( i dun actually own the tape deck, just an empty carcass with wires where it ought to go ... )
22:50 phf it's still wip.
22:50 phf i'm almost done though, going to upload for mr man to peruse at pleasure in the next few days
23:04 mircea_popescu $up drowngodx
23:04 deedbot drowngodx voiced for 30 minutes.
23:15 mircea_popescu and in other bounces, http://66.media.tumblr.com/3963ee6925f01bcee677c1a969380ffa/tumblr_nc45e1aFLu1rat4opo6_250.gif
23:16 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'тяжело в учении -- легко в бою !' (tm) (r)
23:17 mircea_popescu lol
23:17 mircea_popescu quite, it's a brazzers set. she gets pounded.
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23:34 deedbot http://trilema.com/2016/pisi-dot-ar-y-otras-temas/ << Trilema - Pisi dot ar y otras temas.
23:40 ben_vulpes > chesus
23:41 mircea_popescu el verdadero que salvia!
23:49 ben_vulpes > thoroughly dekualkized
23:49 ben_vulpes this fwiw is the appeal to me of ars, deflated though it may be through many a trilema
23:49 mircea_popescu and in other nebraska news, https://pisicademotivanta.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/wpid-fb_img_1444943174256.jpg
23:50 ben_vulpes that a lovely building may be bought and the savages beaten out of it like dust from a rug
23:50 mircea_popescu i guess.
23:50 ben_vulpes lol is that the first mircea_popescu imglink with no actual nudity?!
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23:51 mircea_popescu noo!
23:51 ben_vulpes mind you i grew up in the land of pressed shitboard, and so the wrecked stone glory of ars is v. appealing
23:52 mircea_popescu they're overpriced though.
23:53 mircea_popescu go to eeurope, better deals and marginally less retarded peoplez.
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23:57 mircea_popescu well, since i've already done non-nude, let's do non-coke. http://www.4tuning.ro/bloguri/ganduri-octanice/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/72832.jpg
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