#trilema | 2016-04-17

back in a moment.

~ 40 minutes ~

02:02

$key mike_c

02:04

http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/67434e09-5887-4a57-a817-0afd6e69d9d5/

02:12

mike_c: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/779cbc56-d250-4897-b489-a98304f60233/

~ 2 hours 5 minutes ~

04:17

sooo, freenode is patently going to shit. their dns round robin list is about half as long as it used to be, with stuff in the same subnet even, never seen before. and half the shit dun work, like say 185.30.166/24

04:17

possibly why deedbot's gone, also.

04:18

i'm guessing we'll see the end of it soon enough at this rate.

04:19

anyway, ima be off to bed. laters.

~ 4 hours 30 minutes ~

08:50

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-16#1452858 << The Pb waters are in Flint, 60 miles north of Detroit, and I live in neither, I live another 60 miles north of that

08:51

shinohai: I'll probably rerate when he stops drinking the Pb Waterz of Detroit.

09:06

or 100 km for you metric-usnig folk, that's actually a nicer number, I should have started with that.

09:19

$rated nubbins`

09:19

danielpbarron has not rated nubbins`.

09:19

;; later tell trinque ^ ??

09:19

The operation succeeded.

09:20

;; later tell nubbins` I suppose I shouldn't hold my breath waiting for you to send those two s.nsa shirts you already took payment for..

09:20

The operation succeeded.

09:20

might be becasue of capitalization? I think he said there were issues with that

~ 23 minutes ~

09:43

$unrate PeterL

09:43

Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/e9ab93a5-497d-40fe-951c-c8d39a2e6f15/

09:44

$v 07A21E5321F96CDA4DBCFA4CFC4F08D34410E12B8FC3D1DF2A091EB35E5B2887

09:44

shinohai unrated PeterL.

09:44

;;ticker

09:44

Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 428.92, Best ask: 428.93, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 428.93, 24 hour volume: 5861.59797194, 24 hour low: 428.0, 24 hour high: 433.49, 24 hour vwap: None

09:47

funny how folks remain interested, somehow, in this number, though it comes from the heathens.

09:47

and for all i know, is fictional entirely

09:48

do you have a better source?

09:48

not only do i not,

09:48

but there is (nor ever likely to be) a fiatola-btc exchange in wot

09:49

too bad -otc died

09:49

but that changes nothing.

09:49

was it even alive?

09:49

not sure, maybe sorta before my time here?

09:50

i have nfi

09:51

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asciilifeform did try to use otc on numerous occasions, never once made the desired deal. but - must note - was trying to purchase rarities.

09:52

the closest i ever came was when nubbins took up my offer re the btc src b00k

09:54

;;later tell danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-17#1453171 << you can have however many i have here or any subset for the cost of shipping - and i think i now have all of the remaining ones.

09:54

Logged on 2016-04-17 13:20 danielpbarron: ;; later tell nubbins` I suppose I shouldn't hold my breath waiting for you to send those two s.nsa shirts you already took payment for..

09:54

The operation succeeded.

10:04

yeah that was the deal i had with nubbins: a couple shirts for cost of shipping, and i paid for it before you had even expressed interest

10:06

asciilifeform, gimme a quote on a small box of them, like a dozen or so

10:08

regarding -otc, i made several thousands of dollars worth of trades through there, but in retrospect i think i just got lucky that none of them went sour

10:09

one of the guys i dealt with ended up flipping out over nothing and has been recently nagging me in private messages asking for copies of our signed contracts

10:09

is trading over -otc really comparable to trading over an exchange? seems like the exchange is much more usefull for generating a spot price?

10:10

danielpbarron: were any of your trades at prices different from the current exchange price?

10:11

yeah, i usually paid a premium

10:12

danielpbarron: i cannot answer for nubs. but afaik i have all of the remaining shirts here, and very little use for them currently.

10:12

presently i intend to pass them out at next trilema-conf, whenever that is.

10:13

and/or wrap cardanos in them.

10:14

i still have even a few from the original crate!

10:15

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-17#1453196 << i will weigh them next chance i get and report back

10:15

Logged on 2016-04-17 14:06 danielpbarron: asciilifeform, gimme a quote on a small box of them, like a dozen or so

10:20

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-15#1452605

10:20

Logged on 2016-04-15 08:50 davout: re x.eur -> http://dpaste.com/0080X96.txt

10:26

asciilifeform: you should send me a couple if you're going to the post office anyway for danielpbarron

10:27

jurov: can you give me a foundation address? foundation will be owed .1337 btc after the bitbet receivership is done

10:28

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-17#1453210 << usgpost dun wurk on sundays.

10:28

Logged on 2016-04-17 14:26 davout: asciilifeform: you should send me a couple if you're going to the post office anyway for danielpbarron

10:28

sure sure no rush at all

10:29

davout: pgpgram post addr, i will get to a post in the week

10:30

danielpbarron: also ^

10:33

asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/28SQNVC.txt, feel free to include a cardano in the box :D

10:33

$key asciilifeform

10:34

http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/816335a4-a4a6-4478-ba69-3a0f863ef507/

10:40

;; later tell asciilifeform http://danielpbarron.com/ascii-shirts.asc.txt

10:40

The operation succeeded.

10:40

Here davout you can order my cardano unit for 1 BTC :D https://transfer.sh/awCtD/cardano.jpg

10:40

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shinohai ***some assembly required.

10:41

assembly just to get the image apparently

10:43

l0l

~ 1 hours 6 minutes ~

11:49

hhhola!

11:56

jurov

davout the addy is here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/treasurer_contract.html

11:57

hola señor popescu..!

11:58

mircea_popescu: i read this http://trilema.com/2009/sfarsitul-lumii and it reminded me of the other, more recent trilema article re: the drowned nyc vault with the trillion in paperz

11:58

haha remember that ? epic shit.

11:58

"oh we lost some trillions of... copies of... some papers we printed. problem ?"

12:00

i have actually nfi, but at the time i could not help but wonder how much of the jpmization of american bankz was engineered via precisely that kind of 'physical jubilee'

12:00

certainly all of it.

12:00

'oops we rm -rf / 'd the capital allocationz. all mine now'

12:00

can't have central planning without "anti money laundering"

12:00

soviets know.

12:01

and certainly every orcish pesthole where they ever burned a gestapo archive with stoolie idents, knows.

12:05

PeterL> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-16#1452858 << The Pb waters are in Flint, 60 miles north of Detroit, and I live in neither, I live another 60 miles north of that << distance is not the relevant criteria. height is. are you upstream or downstream lol

12:05

Logged on 2016-04-16 00:50 shinohai: I'll probably rerate when he stops drinking the Pb Waterz of Detroit.

12:07

asciilifeform> was it even alive? << yes. before i left, amusingly enough. i still have teh archivez somewhere, but we opted not to integrate 'em.

12:07

i read some of the available material ( mircea_popescu must've posted it ?) but all i saw were btc-fiatola dealz

12:07

~nothing else

12:08

(aside from sc4mz0r1ng attempts)

12:08

it was early tmsr, not even by that name, plus a lot of gunk.

12:08

like the uranium, then, in the sea.

12:08

pretty much yeah.

12:09

in other lulz, should anyone care to see what a "full license" looks in the windows/www world, here you go : https://www.cryengine.com/get-cryengine/full-license

12:09

testimonials + client list + call to action for a shitty spamform. problem ?

12:10

this is typical 'software industreeee'

12:10

and the more rancid the beggar, the louder shakes the cup

12:12

it'd seem to my naive, unworldly eye that there's nothing below that ?

12:12

how are they going to make it even shittier ?

12:12

nah it means same thing as manhole cover stamped 'sewer'

12:13

... that, unless you are a paid plumber, you do not ~want~ to open and see.

12:19

maybe next step in degeneracy is a page consisting of pictures of cats.

12:22

danielpbarron lmao don't tell me, the self-elected defender of public interest split with some spare change.

12:23

asciilifeform> and/or wrap cardanos in them. << more or less was the original plan yeh. but don't be shy, give to friends.

12:28

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-17#1453211 << win.

12:28

Logged on 2016-04-17 14:27 davout: jurov: can you give me a foundation address? foundation will be owed .1337 btc after the bitbet receivership is done

12:28

tho, was it 1% or .1% ? iirc the latter neh ? someone hiked the tax 1000% last year ?!

12:29

fucking republic, tax goes up 10x, nobody as much as notices.

12:30

empire tries to get a pesky extra 1%, all hell breaks loose.

12:31

i'm from socialist france, 1% sounds like a terrific deal

12:33

hey, no law against overpaying.

12:34

or against underpaying, come to think about it...

12:39

trinque here's a thought : would it be possible to have deedbot- (or i guess its successor) pm a link to whoever sent it a deed once that deed has been included in a block ?

12:39

obviously some assembly required, but it'd help loads.

12:39

doesn't even have to be pm, actually. could also say here, "hey X, your deed was notarized : url"

12:39

possibly better this way.

~ 3 hours 49 minutes ~

16:29

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-17#1453160 <<< sadly, yes.

16:29

Logged on 2016-04-17 08:17 mircea_popescu: sooo, freenode is patently going to shit. their dns round robin list is about half as long as it used to be, with stuff in the same subnet even, never seen before. and half the shit dun work, like say 185.30.166/24

~ 3 hours 3 minutes ~

19:32

i've been nursing hangover all day, waking up every few hours to both my bouncer and my bot being down

19:35

in fact nc -v chat.freenode.net 6667 from the bouncer host is giving me connection timeout, but this random connection works :o

~ 1 hours 17 minutes ~

20:52

phf aha it's been shit.

20:56

i think i'm going to punt on bot fleet, and just focus on robust reconnect. worst thing is trying to powercycle a bot connection, while the room is spinning

20:57

bot fleet is not a bad idea but premature.

21:10

irc is terrible; I just told mine to kill itself and be restarted by runit when *anything* weird happens at all

21:11

seems to be working; I have the exceptions logged, so if there are any that are worth fixing in a smarter way I'll have that information.

21:11

but whether SSL took a shit or ping timed out or... really has no bearing on what I'm going to do next

21:11

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trinque tips hat to erlang

21:13

that bot is like blinding fast

21:13

phf: what's the database name?

21:14

need it to connect

21:14

what database

21:14

that feels like a trick question. the one with the ratings

21:14

you gave me server, etc. but not DB name

21:14

you're drunk mike_c

21:14

I gave you that :P

21:14

sweet jesus

21:14

indeed

21:15

in my log it says: "trinque: what's the database name?"

21:15

I don't know what you guys are smoking

21:15

what

21:15

:)

21:15

lol

21:18

so, something that isn't there is 'last seen'

21:18

which can be useful

21:19

yeah, prolly as a command too

21:19

and 'registered', which is.. somewhat useful as well

21:19

trinque there's something very deeply wrong about a system in which "what happened" has no bearing on "what to do next".

21:23

probably terribly worded on my part.

21:23

all the condtions which result in losing my connection ought to be followed by re-establishing that connection

21:29

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BingoBoingo prefers the days of epic netsplits to this bullshit

21:32

http://dpaste.com/25X3X3P.txt << meanwhile this is apparently what #freenode is for

21:34

soo seems like fleas of fleanode are bitin' lately?

21:35

took hours for a reconnect to hit after the last time I was bumped off

21:35

hours??

21:36

yes

21:36

same with my bouncer, it's back up, but "chat.freenode.org" was giving me timeouts since about 1pm to 7pm EST

21:36

For reconnect roulette to hook a live freenode

21:36

do you have a hardcoded x.fleanode or do you use the chat.fleanode.. randomizer ?

21:36

ah

21:36

randomizer atm

21:37

wolfe has always been pretty reliable, and i think that's where randomizer's been putting me

21:40

chat.f is a screaming singlepointoffailure

21:40

but whole thing is pretty rotten.

21:43

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-15#1452694 << i reworked search a bit, it now has handy nav, shows 100 and lets you nav through the whole history

21:43

Logged on 2016-04-15 16:03 mircea_popescu: phf a) can has 100 rather than 20 finds for search ? b) http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=moon&page=16 is last page notwithstanding that 16 * 20 !> 500

21:44

lovely.

21:44

did you try cabbage juice btw ?

21:45

trinque no i don't think YOU're the problem. i think ircd is the fucking problem.

21:45