#trilema | 2015-12-07

Logged on 07-12-2015 04:56:14; deedbot-: [Trilema] Internoc24 LLC aka internoc24.com is a scam, or how Milan & Dragan Slatjovic stole ~700 euro from me. - http://trilema.com/2015/internoc24-llc-aka-internoc24com-is-a-scam-or-how-milan-dragan-slatjovic-stole-700-euro-from-me/

00:10

not that there is any alternative to this, mind you

00:10

(if i knew of one, i'd have a motherfucking box)

00:11

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31642 @ 0.00047766 = 15.1141 BTC [-] {2}

00:17

http://www.stripes.com/brutality-of-1994-panama-fight-still-resonates-with-u-s-troops-1.162729?localLinksEnabled=false

00:17

Brutality of 1994 Panama fight still resonates with U.S. troops - Stripes ... ( http://bit.ly/1XO6FO0 )

00:18

asciilifeform wut ?

00:21

lmao. us soldiers "were just trying to get college loans and dental", didn't sign up to actually fight.

00:21

and WHAT IS THIS BULLYING! VIOLENCE IS NOT THE ANSWER!

00:33

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70705 @ 0.0004831 = 34.1576 BTC [+] {2}

00:45

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62100 @ 0.00048685 = 30.2334 BTC [+] {2}

00:46

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107900 @ 0.00048833 = 52.6908 BTC [+] {4}

~ 21 minutes ~

01:07

"Less than half of Amerines platoon was healthy enough to participate, but this time they were armed with shotguns and tear gas, and they moved in at 3 a.m. Things went off without a hitch." << For the record this is now US policia SOP

~ 21 minutes ~

01:29

[BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1232/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jul-2016/#b4

01:29

[BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1233/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jul-2016/#b5

01:29

[BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $1,000 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1234/bitcoin-to-top-1-000-before-jul-2016/#b7

~ 23 minutes ~

01:53

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337617 << must run cloudflares!!! my sides

01:53

Logged on 07-12-2015 04:56:14; deedbot-: [Trilema] Internoc24 LLC aka internoc24.com is a scam, or how Milan & Dragan Slatjovic stole ~700 euro from me. - http://trilema.com/2015/internoc24-llc-aka-internoc24com-is-a-scam-or-how-milan-dragan-slatjovic-stole-700-euro-from-me/

01:58

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17034 @ 0.00048974 = 8.3422 BTC [+] {2}

~ 16 minutes ~

02:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15742 @ 0.0004881 = 7.6837 BTC [-] {2}

02:15

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42014 @ 0.00048748 = 20.481 BTC [-] {2}

02:23

;;later tell pete_dushenski ty, and how do you plan to prepare Saddam for Canadian Winter?

02:23

The operation succeeded.

02:24

How do the Fender Flags handle in the snow?

02:24

[Qntra] Tesla Mimicks VW In Own Nitrous Oxide Scandal - http://qntra.net/2015/12/tesla-mimicks-vw-in-own-nitrous-oxide-scandal/

02:36

"We implement segregated witness right now, soon. What we do is discount the witness data by 75% for block size. So this enables us to say we allow 4x as many signatures in the chain. What this normally corresponds to, with a difficult transaction load, this is around 75% capacity increase for transactions that choose to use it. Another way of looking at it, is that we raise the block size

02:36

to 4 MB for the witness part, but the non-witness has same size. The reason for doing the discount, last slide, the reason for doing this discount is that it disincentivizes UTXO impact. A signature that doesn't go into the UTXO set, can be pruned."

02:36

they found the most shitgnomiferous solution, didn't they?

02:43

http://qntra.net/2015/12/f2pool-lashes-out-when-called-out-for-spv-mining/ "This guy leaked our IP addresses to the public, I pm him kindly and begged him to remove them but he refused. If we ever got DDoSed due to his post, we have no choices but point our domains to his pool."

02:43

F2Pool Lashes Out When Called Out For SPV Mining | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1R4qYCF )

02:43

ah the lulz

02:46

<punkman> they found the most shitgnomiferous solution, didn't they? << Yes

02:47

punkman: I'm just happy Qntra already had a Discus Fish from an earlier story

02:49

tried their livestream yesterday, audio must have been recorded through $1 microphone in someone's pocket

02:51

Well last time they could afford a microphone was when they sold their BTC at $5 per and got out

02:53

"President Obama's former Deputy Press Secretary joins BitFury as new Chief Communications Officer: "Why I believe in the Blockchain and Why You Should Too""

02:55

I thought bitfury hadn't yet joined the "Blockchain" derps

02:56

!s bitfury

02:56

315 results for 'bitfury' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bitfury

02:57

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55242 @ 0.00048287 = 26.6747 BTC [-] {3}

02:58

"Imagine a world where people can send money as easily as we send emails" << yeah sending email is such a joy these days

02:58

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75208 @ 0.00047948 = 36.0607 BTC [-] {4}

~ 18 minutes ~

03:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52697 @ 0.00048367 = 25.488 BTC [+] {2}

03:18

The internet's premier fitness community strikes again https://archive.is/Bq5aY

03:18

Injecting HCG directly into penis for dick gains? (Study inside) : steroids ... ( http://bit.ly/1POUmNb )

03:25

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7712 @ 0.00048938 = 3.7741 BTC [+]

03:30

http://i.imgur.com/cOMyJlu.jpg

03:30

... ( http://bit.ly/1POWFQv )

03:31

[Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Desperately trying to put the “auto” back into automobile in a flaccid attempt to put the relevance back into motoring. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/07/desperately-trying-to-put-the-auto-back-into-automobile-in-a-flaccid-attempt-to-put-the-relevance-back-into-motoring/

03:39

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00048942 = 10.1799 BTC [+] {5}

03:46

"Visitors to the fair were reportedly confused by the stabbing, mistaking it for performance art. The area was quickly marked off with police tape, which some people seem to have thought was part of the installation."

03:46

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/chaos-woman-brutally-stabbed-art-basel-miami-beach-386204

03:46

Woman Stabbed at Art Basel in Miami Beach - artnet News ... ( http://bit.ly/1PP07dH )

03:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49042 @ 0.000488 = 23.9325 BTC [-] {2}

03:53

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15758 @ 0.00047913 = 7.5501 BTC [-] {2}

03:55

!up gmaxwell

03:56

!up gmaxwell

03:57

Mildly amusing: http://bitcoinocracy.com/arguments/bip101-is-better-than-bip100 I'm surprised that the 101 supporters have more than 1kbtc to their names.

03:57

Bitcoinocracy — BIP101 is better than BIP100 ... ( http://bit.ly/1PP2A86 )

04:00

gmaxwell: curious how that thing behaves when funds move from signing addresses

04:00

gmaxwell: Well, you gotta figure if you have dollars and want to undermine bitcoin security at some point you're going to pick up some bitcoin.

04:02

davout: I think it's supposted to forget them but I think it doesn't currently, based on some of the traffic on its issue trackers.

04:02

as there is a bug for "background update" or something

04:02

Anyways, it is still early in history. There can still be idiots out there with 4 digit BTC, though not too many.

04:03

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49450 @ 0.00048998 = 24.2295 BTC [+] {2}

04:03

i know folks with 4-digit btc that also 'invested' in ethereum...

04:04

Not to mention the "Industry" BIP 101 supporters who can sign with "other people's" BTC

04:04

well, if they have the keys...

04:04

Yea, I'm anticipating that one; though it would require them to figure out how to signmessage. :P

04:05

a lot of "industry" is using third party APIs to control their coins...

04:05

i doubt that

04:05

:(

04:06

I don't feel bad that you doubt it, I wouldn't have believed it if I'd not seen it myself. It does make a lot of things make more sense.

04:07

Coinbase and ButtPay are still derping along with Other People's Money

04:11

*

BingoBoingo still finding the "Jim Crow Signature Witness" thing extraordinarily disturbing

04:11

Ah, looks like main source of the pro 101 funds is satoshibones.

04:15

fluffypony

[11:03:56] <+davout>i know folks with 4-digit btc that also 'invested' in ethereum... <- a fool and his money...

04:18

4-digit btc would have been like ...all of the ethereum presale, no?

04:18

didn't they get like 30k btc?

04:18

i did not say 'all'

04:20

fluffypony: well, customers of a gambling site... probably the case most excusable to use customer funds to support 101.

04:20

(derps probably all support 101 too. :) )

04:20

fluffypony

lol

04:27

100btc worth of ETH at launch, still worth 400btc now. wonder how this will turn out https://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/

04:27

BitBet - The ETH scam won't see 2016 :: 73.96 B (34%) on Yes, 142.49 B (66%) on No | closed 5 days 9 hours ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1iDIjEg )

04:33

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43600 @ 0.00048191 = 21.0113 BTC [-] {2}

04:41

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16848 @ 0.00048191 = 8.1192 BTC [-] {2}

04:42

http://www.openalpr.com/

04:42

OpenALPR - Automatic License Plate Recognition ... ( http://bit.ly/1TRXBC9 )

~ 33 minutes ~

05:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86019 @ 0.00048297 = 41.5446 BTC [+] {2}

05:18

http://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/advisory-156.html

05:18

XSA-156 - Xen Security Advisories ... ( http://bit.ly/1m6wRmh )

05:22

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9336 @ 0.00048297 = 4.509 BTC [+] {2}

05:23

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100020 @ 0.00047821 = 47.8306 BTC [-] {4}

05:30

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5530 @ 0.00047618 = 2.6333 BTC [-]

05:39

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132501 @ 0.00047974 = 63.566 BTC [-]

05:44

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.0004826 = 12.5476 BTC [+] {2}

~ 35 minutes ~

06:19

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14568 @ 0.00047974 = 6.9889 BTC [-] {2}

06:24

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90100 @ 0.00047814 = 43.0804 BTC [-] {3}

06:36

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43532 @ 0.00047891 = 20.8479 BTC [+]

~ 15 minutes ~

06:51

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36197 @ 0.00047902 = 17.3391 BTC [+] {2}

~ 19 minutes ~

07:10

funkenstein_

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337681 <-- thanks for linking bitcoinocracy, it looks nice.

07:10

Logged on 07-12-2015 09:02:03; gmaxwell: davout: I think it's supposted to forget them but I think it doesn't currently, based on some of the traffic on its issue trackers.

07:11

funkenstein_

Unspent outputs should form the basis rather than addresses, so that coin is free to move without changing tally

07:11

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27203 @ 0.00047866 = 13.021 BTC [-]

07:12

funkenstein_

some more considerations if interested: http://frass.woodcoin.org/introducing-coin-vote/

07:12

Introducing Coin-Vote | Free your Frass ... ( http://bit.ly/1YTSxzZ )

07:21

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110829 @ 0.00048469 = 53.7177 BTC [+] {4}

07:36

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98373 @ 0.0004836 = 47.5732 BTC [-] {3}

07:44

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62700 @ 0.00048003 = 30.0979 BTC [-]

07:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34746 @ 0.00048003 = 16.6791 BTC [-]

07:53

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63975 @ 0.00049051 = 31.3804 BTC [+] {4}

07:58

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6342 @ 0.00048099 = 3.0504 BTC [-] {4}

07:59

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86180 @ 0.00047528 = 40.9596 BTC [-] {2}

08:04

!up leftbase

08:06

and in other news, http://45.media.tumblr.com/22a6dd68d169cffdf6c6a32c07688e43/tumblr_mv00n8Ncmn1rcmfhmo1_500.gif

08:06

... ( http://bit.ly/1TSI7hj )

08:15

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00047558 = 6.8008 BTC [+]

08:17

so i had a darknet vendor try to scam me

08:18

o ?

08:18

did peterl's analysis service save you ?

08:19

naw, a mod gave me my money back :/

08:19

mildly surprised at this

08:19

maybe the first time i've had an escrowed deal fall apart

08:20

he tried to scam you in spite of escrow ?

08:20

seems inconceivable, but yes.

08:21

they just get dumber and dumber, huh.

08:21

pkg marked shipped nov 5th

08:21

now, truthfully, i know why this happened

08:22

there was a peak in btc price around nov 5, when i placed order

08:22

vendor prob thought he'd get less $ than he deserved by the time money cleared escrow

08:22

so he just never sent anything

08:22

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99800 @ 0.00047891 = 47.7952 BTC [+] {4}

08:23

and marked it shipped just in case he needs extra points with mod ?

08:23

yep.

08:23

mod ("OxyMonster", lel) was unimpressed

08:23

o look, somebody got butthurt at trilema, and figured ddos totally is going to do something! this time!

08:23

i wonder what could have it been! this time!

08:29

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVlcAhsXIAAMCwj.jpg:large

08:29

... ( http://bit.ly/1TSNehs )

08:31

i see your bitchez and raise you a public servant. http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll98dyvViD1qeezkyo1_1280.png

08:31

... ( http://bit.ly/1R4X01l )

08:32

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337644 << epic. lmao.

08:32

Logged on 07-12-2015 07:24:31; deedbot-: [Qntra] Tesla Mimicks VW In Own Nitrous Oxide Scandal - http://qntra.net/2015/12/tesla-mimicks-vw-in-own-nitrous-oxide-scandal/

08:34

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337647 << it's very dubious this actually does anything above and beyond allowing a bunch of doofuses to claim they're doing things in an academia-convincing manner.

08:34

Logged on 07-12-2015 07:36:34; punkman: they found the most shitgnomiferous solution, didn't they?

08:35

haskell is a few steps down this road, and i hope the participants have fun.

08:35

if you look at things, something like this was unavoidable. there's a lot of people who wish to "participate" in a very peculiar ustardian manner, which is why the peculiar ustarded flavour of academia was invented in the first place.

08:35

nobody cancelled "the things stupid people do".

08:37

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337660 << well, imagine! google owning it, and holding everyone at ransom over it! while lying about it, and random street-level derp having no fucking clue about it.

08:37

Logged on 07-12-2015 07:58:25; punkman: "Imagine a world where people can send money as easily as we send emails" << yeah sending email is such a joy these days

08:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22303 @ 0.00049074 = 10.945 BTC [+] {3}

08:39

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38097 @ 0.00049091 = 18.7022 BTC [+]

08:39

"I don't understand how there isn't more research into actual dick growth drugs. It seems like it would be profitable if condoned by the FDA." << it'd be totally profitable, but fda has nothing to do with it.

08:39

imagine, if kfc sold penis-obesity burgers!

08:41

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337689 << this is actually par for the course for every usg-powered outfit out there.

08:41

Logged on 07-12-2015 09:05:04; gmaxwell: a lot of "industry" is using third party APIs to control their coins...

08:41

they do this with their shares, why wouldn't do this with their other assets. the monster is what it is in all its parts, not just the tail.

08:42

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337723 << that made absolutely no sense.

08:42

Logged on 07-12-2015 12:11:21; funkenstein_: Unspent outputs should form the basis rather than addresses, so that coin is free to move without changing tally

08:46

lets you print ballots for tx fees, incentivize gracious donations to block makers

08:47

if we're gonna have an election, at least make it a spectacle worth watching!

08:47

doh. so if i run a miner that has $days_left % of total hash output, i can freely vote an infinity of coins. because whatever, i just fill a block with an endless chain of votes and i'm going to eventually mine it into a block.

08:48

you'd still have a finite proportion of the network, other miners could print votes for themselves, or just process transactions normally, business as usual, which still lets others print their own ballots

08:49

fees race up as you fight over block space, price moons, democracy wins

08:49

basically the only way this thing can pretend to exist is if nobody gives a shit, and for as long as nobody does.

08:49

like so many other things "in" bitcoin.

08:53

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63400 @ 0.00049104 = 31.1319 BTC [+] {4}

08:53

hmm i'd phrase it the other way around. if nobody gives a shit about "vote" results, nobody has incentive to attack it. if people pay attention to elections, they get attacked, but the attack makes it seem that more money cared - because it did

08:54

yes. so the illusion that "this car made out of cardboard is road worthy" can be maintained for as long as nobody takes it on the road.

08:56

ah, i don't think such elections will effect the decision-making process of people who understand the system. this doesn't prevent the fee-donating competition from occurring

08:59

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51052 @ 0.00049156 = 25.0951 BTC [+] {2}

09:07

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2474 @ 0.00049248 = 1.2184 BTC [+]

09:13

i suppose it is the duty of informed people to allow the uninformed to donate any resources they might unwarrantedly have acquired.

09:13

reduces trouble potential down the road.

09:13

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91052 @ 0.00048658 = 44.3041 BTC [-] {2}

09:17

hmm i bought a bunch of shit at the homebrew shop yesterday, and one of the items rang in as $0.00

09:26

man, the canadian dollar slipping to its lowest point since 2004 is really making the btc/cad exchange rate look good

09:30

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/12/06/judge-jeanine-get-gun-get-it-legally-learn-how-shoot-it-and-be-primed-use-it

09:30

Judge Jeanine: 'Get A Gun. Get It Legally. Learn How To Shoot It And Be Primed To Use It' - Fox Nation ... ( http://bit.ly/1NBgI2v )

09:30

GEEEYE A GAUUAHN

09:30

GEEYET IT LEEGULLY

09:30

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15829 @ 0.00047464 = 7.5131 BTC [-] {3}

09:31

death of a thousand lels

09:31

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90671 @ 0.00047456 = 43.0288 BTC [-]

09:36

i wonder what would've happened if the san bernardino goofs had gotten guns, gotten them legally, learned how to shoot them, and been primed to use them

09:36

o wait

09:37

also, the word "radicalized" has been media-ified into absurdity

09:39

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55418 @ 0.00047857 = 26.5214 BTC [+] {2}

09:42

https://www.reddit.com/r/shittyprogramming/comments/3v7mjy/pls_critique_my_code_style/

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79000 @ 0.00048214 = 38.0891 BTC [+] {2}

09:43

fluffypony

09:43

Pls critique my code style : shittyprogramming ... ( http://bit.ly/1N6oGPs )

09:47

lel

09:47

[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1233/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jul-2016/#b9

09:47

i had a coworker once that wrote a 500-line function for manipulating arrays

09:48

her variable choices were "result1", "line3", "thisRow2" etc

09:55

hey phf

09:55

you did up the eulora homebrew tap?

09:55

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=G5SJpfek

09:55

... ( http://bit.ly/1N6qvvZ )

10:07

dat brew

10:07

i hate packaging things for mac

10:11

;;ticker

10:11

Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 399.61, Best ask: 399.84, Bid-ask spread: 0.23000, Last trade: 399.68, 24 hour volume: 38665.44974803, 24 hour low: 384.53, 24 hour high: 404.24, 24 hour vwap: None

10:12

nod

10:12

jurov: apparently the transferwise CEO is anti-bitcoin? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YZt-sEOi_w

10:12

or at least ill-informed

10:14

think it was a git issue. progress

10:15

checking whether the C++ compiler works... no

10:15

lel nvm

10:20

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89687 @ 0.00048215 = 43.2426 BTC [+]

10:21

;;isup qntra.net

10:21

qntra.net is up

10:21

;;isup trilema.com

10:21

trilema.com is up

10:21

Well not from this location

10:21

nor this

~ 23 minutes ~

10:45

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54500 @ 0.00048887 = 26.6434 BTC [+] {5}

10:57

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28623-woman-who-has-never-felt-pain-experiences-it-for-the-first-time

10:57

Woman who has never felt pain experiences it for the first time | New Scientist ... ( http://bit.ly/1NR9oSi )

11:04

not being able to feel pain is actually a fairly serious condition

11:04

most people end up disfigured by late childhood

11:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42163 @ 0.00048924 = 20.6278 BTC [+] {2}

11:21

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26650 @ 0.00049083 = 13.0806 BTC [+] {2}

11:21

nubbins`: I have another bug report with 10.11, but this one's just odd. I'll check it out tonight

11:22

phf which gcc you using?

11:22

i've tried 4.9, 5.3; mp thinks maybe you targeted llvm?

11:22

llvm/clang

11:22

lol k

11:22

don't check out anything yet

11:23

i symlinked gcc-4.9 to "gcc" ages ago, so it's trying to use that instead

11:23

aaah

11:23

ha!

11:23

btw phf you ever gonna log an' get your reward ?

11:23

$ ls -la *gcc*

11:23

lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 41 17 Mar 2015 gcc -> /usr/local/Cellar/gcc/4.9.2_1/bin/gcc-4.9

11:23

lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5 20 Sep 2014 llvm-gcc -> clang

11:24

but desc not working? that seems like some brew formula level issue

11:24

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=j9M1VSbX

11:25

... ( http://bit.ly/1IPMkvF )

11:26

trying again w clang

11:26

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337656 << bitfury has looong since turned to the dark side, dating back at least 1.5 years to kikvadze's cnbc interview in which he advocated for removing 21 mn coin cap. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/26/bitfury-and-private-property-in-the-land-of-the-free/

11:26

Logged on 07-12-2015 07:55:46; punkman: I thought bitfury hadn't yet joined the "Blockchain" derps

11:26

BitFury and private property in the land of the free. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1IPMEdT )

11:26

ugh

11:27

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=TqaRdVv5

11:27

... ( http://bit.ly/1IA0GWm )

11:27

phf it seems like it's still not using llvm-clang but its own gcc-5.3

11:28

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11:29

hmm, its possible i forgot to remove custom gcc call out from cal3d formula, ill have to check once im in front of a real computer

11:32

or maybe it's picking up your gcc since you have it installed. homebrew compiler selection algo is all kinds of creative

11:33

seems the likelier explanation.

11:35

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-12-2015#1337562 << curves, glorious curves

11:35

Logged on 06-12-2015 23:40:58; mircea_popescu: and something for petey... http://40.media.tumblr.com/e9757a9deb4f50a25d868f26f4c3ab1d/tumblr_mvec3nySMa1s6dk4zo1_1280.jpg

11:36

curve means whore in romanian.

11:36

phf yeah symlink city. i did brew remove on all gcc's

11:37

!up ascii_field

11:37

there we go, woop

11:37

o ?

11:37

cal3d compiled

11:37

(this was the step it was hanging on. not outta woods yet)

11:37

that's almost always the bitch.

11:37

yuh

11:37

iirc cal3d was my hemorrhoid when i was trying to cobble a working osx install

11:37

yaq

11:37

mircea_popescu: i can see the connection to 'курва', but is there an etymological link to engl. 'cur' ?

11:38

https://isitup.org/qntra.net

11:38

Oh no! qntra.net is down. // isitup.org ... ( http://bit.ly/1IPNWpc )

11:38

latin curvus, bent

11:38

it's almost certainly from slavonic "kuruva"

11:38

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337641 << basically just proper bridgestone rubber on all four corners.

11:38

Logged on 07-12-2015 07:23:53; BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski ty, and how do you plan to prepare Saddam for Canadian Winter?

11:39

mircea_popescu: so i've always had a thing for slavonic whoors it seems ;)

11:39

lol

11:40

amusingly enough, in ro cant the superlative accomplishment of thievery is being "old whore".

11:40

*

pete_dushenski likes curvy women, yes, particularly those who elegantly put the 'broad' in broad

11:41

i think it's compensatory for my lousy upper body frame

11:41

oof this cs download is slooooow

11:42

FTTD ruins you on patience, i tell ya

11:43

fun story, installation guy says "do you want me to terminate the fibre at the pole, or inside the home?

11:43

i say "is there an extra cost?" he says "nope" i say "lule, come on in, no need to take off yr boots"

11:48

he warned that it's easy to damage the fibre where it enters the house

11:48

"what happens if i cut it?"

11:48

"we'll come out and fix it for free"

11:49

http://www.sportsxm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Hottest-Women-Track-Field.jpg << mmm... broad...

11:49

... ( http://bit.ly/1IA3F10 )

11:50

not curvy by any definition

11:50

i think the word you seek is "fit"

11:51

indeed, broad =! curvy, but rather signals the potential therefore once fillie is done being 'athlete'

11:51

once they're done being fit

11:51

correct

11:51

o.O

11:52

you're a strange man

11:52

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/suicide-rate-alberta-increase-layoffs-1.3353662

11:52

Suicide rate in Alberta jumps 30% in wake of mass oilpatch layoffs - Calgary - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1IPPDD2 )

11:52

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337762 << :D

11:52

Logged on 07-12-2015 13:32:58; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337644 << epic. lmao.

11:52

nubbins`: omg. from 10 to 13. whatevershallbedone

11:53

ok 252 to 327

11:53

"If the trend continues, Alberta could be on track for 654 suicides this year." << and then next year, a thousand, and the year after that THE WHOLE PROVINCE WILL OFF ITSELF

11:53

need moar bailouts.

11:54

we have bailouts here now?!

11:54

fuck the oil sands anyway

11:54

the amount of drug addiction brought to NL by oil money is more staggering than the number of suicides in AB

11:55

!s cheese addiction

11:55

0 results for 'cheese addiction' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cheese+addiction

11:55

hm, coulda sworn there was something in the logs about cheese being more addictive than crack. or was it cheesecake ?

11:56

lol. and wiping your ass after taking a shit is more addictive than cheese

11:56

there's a lesson in here about paying labourers $70k/yr

11:57

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337927 << mega-observation

11:57

Logged on 07-12-2015 16:56:24; nubbins`: lol. and wiping your ass after taking a shit is more addictive than cheese

11:57

srsly.

11:57

nubbins`: more like $170k, even $270k

11:57

the ultimate addiction, imho, is not-having-meatbags-around

11:57

pete_dushenski fair nuf

11:57

either way

11:57

you give these goofs bags of cash

11:58

they go buy big trucks and big houses on credit

11:58

oops lul the grease ran out

11:58

wat do

11:58

why a quarter-mn to some 23 yo newfie punk ? BECAUSE THE JOB SUCKS. and literally no one would do it for less

11:58

nubbins`: we have legends of this kind of thing here, with lottery players

11:59

pete_dushenski the smart newfies took that money and came home with most of it, bought houses etc outright

11:59

which a chunk did, no doubt

11:59

the stunned ones took out leases, blew their money on drugs and gasoline, and are now fucked

11:59

the dumb ones were fucked to begin with

11:59

unfortunately, they're fucked here, not in alberta

11:59

who cares about dumb bois

12:00

people who have to interact with them?

12:00

^

12:00

i'd sooner interact with a dummy than with a coke-addicted dummy with $200k of personal debt

12:00

there are ex 'rig pigs' working farmers market stalls here, nice kids.

12:01

one of those dummies prob will not do a home invasion some day when he's broke, one prob will

12:01

can't stay addicted to blow 4ever, at least not when broke, this too shall pass

12:01

nubbins`: what's it take to land that work anyway

12:01

pete_dushenski o.O you know what happens when addicts are broke, yes?

12:01

you shoot them ?

12:01

ascii_field year or two of trade school

12:01

what's the catch ?

12:01

gotta be in the union ?

12:01

work sucks

12:01

and obv union, sure

12:01

all work sucks

12:02

some work sucks more than other work

12:02

physical labour 18 hours at a time particularly sucks

12:02

how many people per square metre in a drill platform ?

12:02

chain gangs are still a thing ?

12:02

ascii_field no idea. too many

12:02

ah these must be sea rigs

12:03

nah mostly land

12:03

then i have nfi what the problem is..

12:03

;;google alberta oil sands

12:03

Athabasca oil sands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athabasca_oil_sands>; Alberta's Oil Sands Alberta's Clean Energy Future: <http://oilsands.alberta.ca/>; Alberta Energy: Oil Sands: <http://www.energy.alberta.ca/ourbusiness/oilsands.asp>

12:03

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-10-2015#1305612 << found.

12:03

Logged on 22-10-2015 22:12:53; mircea_popescu: but in related news, http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-cheese-addictive-drugs-20151022-story.html

12:03

;;google contravex alberta oil sands

12:03

Alberta Oil Sands Inc: <http://www.aboilsands.ca/>; Alberta's oilsands trade-off | Toronto Star: <http://www.thestar.com/news/atkinsonseries/2015/08/28/albertas-oilsands-trade-off.html>; Go ahead Jim Prentice: raise taxes in Alberta and see if ... - Contravex: <http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/16/go-ahead-jim-prentice-raise-taxes-in-alberta-and-see-if-by-2025-the-province-isnt- (1 more message)

12:03

<+pete_dushenski> you shoot them ? << so trite

12:04

so considerate of others !

12:04

so imaginaruim of dr dushenskuss

12:04

guilty.

12:04

lemme give a rundown

12:05

dummies get high paying jobs up in AB

12:05

plenty of $$, why not try some coke?

12:05

come home, still addicted to coke

12:05

this creates demand

12:05

then coke dealers start multiplying

12:06

then coke /users/ start multiplying

12:06

then the money runs out (this happens not all at once)

12:06

then the poorest, most addicted turn to theft, robbery, break-ins, etc

12:07

then your city is suddenly full of broke addicts

12:07

the smarter ones say "i can't get out of this on my own, i need help"

12:07

!up ascii_field

12:07

at which point they realize oh, there's a 6 month waitlist for help

12:08

guess i'll hold up a convenience store instead

12:08

and sometimes they find that there is no 'addiction clinic' for breaking addiction to space, clean air, hygiene, and cheese

12:08

sure there is, it's called therapy

12:08

comes in all shapes and sizes

12:08

though i hear mircea_popescu has a broomstick therapy

12:09

hmm big fire somewhere nearby

12:09

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337929 << substances are substances, hygiene is hygiene

12:09

Logged on 07-12-2015 16:57:20; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337927 << mega-observation

12:09

brb

12:09

pete_dushenski: for the purpose of this thought, any particular thing you've grown to like but suddenly cannot afford, is 'addiction'

12:10

not so.

12:10

i don't go into withdrawal when forced to use leaves for tp.

12:10

just as a small hole in your chest is a hole, whether made by bullet or meteorite

12:10

pete_dushenski: afaik cocaine aficionados don't suffer from withdrawal in the usual sense

12:10

i don't shiver and vomit and want to die from ass-wiping with plants as i would from morphine withdrawal

12:11

ascii_field: i think you're right, which really makes you wonder about the 'addictiveness' of coke

12:11

same as that of cheese

12:11

or life-without-roommates

12:11

bingo.

12:11

or 10,001 other things.

12:11

'this is not life'

12:12

bingo to cheese...

12:12

so idiots who wanna rampage because 'no money for cheese' shouldn't be shot ?

12:12

"be shot" is trite

12:12

why not ?

12:12

what kind of civil society is this ??

12:12

in reality, the addicts who can't find/afford coke don't just stop using

12:13

they just switch to prescription drugs.

12:13

nubbins`: sent to gulag, fine

12:13

there y'go, that's much less trite

12:13

nubbins` is assuming a big, cozy socialist state to take care of them

12:13

worthy of a serious conversation between adults

12:13

'civil society' is just what remains after you fill the gulags

12:13

a fiver for trying to hold up cheese shop

12:13

trinque not so.

12:13

given that he lives in one, this is reasonable

12:13

oh?

12:13

such a state does not exist

12:14

if you want the government to help you, better not hold yr breath

12:14

dole checks don't show up in canada anymore?

12:14

I understand that they do here

12:15

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65900 @ 0.00048205 = 31.7671 BTC [-] {2}

12:15

wtf is a dole check gonna do?

12:16

^

12:17

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00048205 = 7.1825 BTC [-] {2}

12:18

dole is what, $400-smth a month here?

12:18

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55866 @ 0.00048205 = 26.9302 BTC [-]

12:18

should be just about enough to cover, oh, nothing at all

12:18

*

pete_dushenski always reads 'checks' as 'inspections'. it's cheques goddamit !

12:19

maybe at one time you could live off dole

12:19

but that was before all the cash-heavy oil workers came home & drove property values through the roof

12:19

nubbins`: in 'dole countries', the thing is barely enough for scum-life. satan help you if you've tasted human living

12:19

nubbins` │ the smarter ones say "i can't get out of this on my own, i need help" << >> nubbins` │ sure there is, it's called therapy

12:19

this struck me as a socialist perspective.

12:20

i didn't say free therapy

12:20

as for the dole, there's always public housing too

12:20

life's all about expectations

12:20

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12:20

trinque public housing has a bigger waitlist than addictions help.

12:20

also mostly goes to families vs individuals

12:21

"but doesn't that encourage the destitute addicts to start queefing out kids?" yes it does.

12:22

the question of what happens to these people only matters under economic and social circumstances which are advantageous to them.

12:22

"but won't kids born to addict parents be fucked from the start and stay that way their whole lives?" yep

12:22

I took pete_dushenski's "get shot" as "get fucked/who cares"

12:22

lol

12:22

ok.

12:22

aside drug prohibition what are they going to do to make enough money to matter?

12:22

so the "LALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU" approach?

12:22

aside living among them what do I care what they do to each other?

12:23

yes, no "something must be done" about it

12:23

you do live among them, ya fuckin dumbass.

12:23

no, I do not

12:23

!s Conde de Alba de Yeltes

12:23

1 results for 'Conde de Alba de Yeltes' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=Conde+de+Alba+de+Yeltes

12:23

oh, on what planet do you live?

12:23

!s in the sewers

12:23

23 results for 'in the sewers' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=in+the+sewers

12:23

*

trinque looks out the window

12:23

not a bum in sight

12:23

well if you can't see any right now

12:24

i guess there aren't any

12:24

if there were no drug prohibition how would that economic process you described work, exactly?

12:24

also, equating "drug addict" with "bum" is an exceptionally rudimentary understanding of the world

12:24

the little trick is that when you're throwing away people, it helps to make sure that all or most of them actually are garbage

12:24

prohibition drives the price through the roof, which allows the whole thing to sustain itself.

12:24

otherwise you get a lenin eventually and get fucked.

12:25

trinque if there were no drug prohibition, the world would be a better, safer place

12:25

aside massive govt distortions of the market, stupid tends to die.

12:25

drugs is a prime example

12:26

*are

12:26

http://www.bsomusic.org/media/728173/main-2015-2016-infographic_1150w.jpg << "Women composers make up less than 2% of all of the music performed." damn those americans are racialist.

12:26

... ( http://bit.ly/1NFRziI )

12:26

treating drug abuse as crime is maybe the dumbest thing i can think of at the moment

12:26

obama must intervene !

12:26

nubbins`: well certainly

12:26

actually, ignoring drug abuse is pretty fuckin stupid too

12:27

most govs do one or the other, or both at once

12:27

I'd say "end prohibition" hits it head-on.

12:27

weed prices for example in legalized states are falling all the time

12:27

apply that to the harder stuff; profits subside and those pushing the dope go on to better things

12:28

i pay about $250/month directly to criminal gangs

12:28

because of prohibition

12:28

spending far less on aspirin I'd imagine

12:28

costco has pretty cheap aspirin

12:29

now on top of that, you have the idiot cops running around

12:29

busting dope pedlars

12:29

essentially purchasing the drugs with your tax dollars, and not even using them afterward

12:29

don't worry, weed-legalization will free up their hands to bust bitcoin aficionados

12:29

seriously, there was a big bust here recently, i calculated that the cops paid something like $4 a gram for the weed they seized.

12:30

if the shit was legal, purchasing that same gram would yield the gov $4+ in taxes

12:30

but hey, what do i know

12:33

it's not like all the black market soft drug money goes directly to hell's angels and vietnamese gangs, oh wait

12:33

"There's about €3bn of London Club debt "trading" at 15 cents of par last time I checked. If you find Argentine bonds just not exotic enough" << everyone's an investor eh. p2p lending is da footoor !

12:33

it's not like buying prohibited dope helps keep coke dealers in business, oh wait

12:34

anyway this is turning into generalized griping

12:35

nubbins`: anyways, once the residual albertabux dry up, newfoundland will go back to being a 'service economy' or whatever it's been since the cod packed up and left. your housing prices will return to the incredibly affordable 'normal' you were used to, and all will be well again until the next time a canadian province has a resource boom and your industrious young men provide the necessary cannon fodder.

12:36

speaking of resource booms, http://www.bdlive.co.za/business/mining/2015/12/07/de-beers-suspends-operations-at-canada-mine

12:36

De Beers suspends operations at Canada mine | Mining | BDlive ... ( http://bit.ly/1NFTELw )

12:38

!up ascii_field

12:47

economy, lol.

12:47

you've obv never been here

12:48

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337940 << riiight.

12:48

Logged on 07-12-2015 16:58:29; pete_dushenski: why a quarter-mn to some 23 yo newfie punk ? BECAUSE THE JOB SUCKS. and literally no one would do it for less

12:48

talk to teh syrian immigrants.

12:48

that's what they did back home, anyway.

12:49

pete_dushenski all the people whose houses are suddenly worth less than the outstanding mortgages would tend to disagree that "all will be well"

12:49

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22608 @ 0.00048205 = 10.8982 BTC [-] {2}

12:49

but hey

12:49

don't let me get in the way of your over-9000 triteness

12:49

8)

12:49

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337965 << if you're looking for something, manning expeditions to the north pole is more your alley.

12:49

Logged on 07-12-2015 17:02:33; ascii_field: how many people per square metre in a drill platform ?

12:49

the main thing is being able to sit by oneself for six months in the dark

12:50

^ some can, some can't

12:50

that's the other "high pay, shitty work" option for canadians: go up north

12:51

i personally would not fare well above the treeline

12:51

too barren

12:51

super depressing

12:51

great way to retire imo

12:51

people do it

12:51

way the fuck better than going to florida.

12:52

also common for older folks who didn't plan so well for retirement.

12:52

move up north for yr last 5 years in the workforce

12:52

for eskimo-style retirement

12:52

'i must step outside and may be a while' (tm) (r)

12:52

gov literally pays you to live up there

12:53

as opposed to where, in berlin ?

12:53

gov literally pays you to live anywhere.

12:53

as opposed to southern canada :D

12:53

like, "you live north of 60, here is your nothern allowance"

12:53

"use it to offset the insanely high cost of goods"

12:54

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/638654/images/r-FEEDING-MY-FAMILY-large570.jpg

12:54

... ( http://bit.ly/1NFXBzS )

12:54

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338005 << or coke.

12:54

Logged on 07-12-2015 17:10:19; pete_dushenski: i don't go into withdrawal when forced to use leaves for tp.

12:54

http://i.imgur.com/QZLbYKF.jpg

12:54

... ( http://bit.ly/1NFXHHR )

12:55

http://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2296283.1427290723!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_960/image.jpg

12:55

... ( http://bit.ly/1NFXTa7 )

12:55

http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/content/images/pasta-pizza-prices.jpg

12:55

... ( http://bit.ly/1NFXUe1 )

12:55

could keep going but shrug, you get the idea

12:55

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338025 << i have no idea what your problem with shooting 'em is, but anyway.

12:55

Logged on 07-12-2015 17:13:22; nubbins`: worthy of a serious conversation between adults

12:56

mircea_popescu practical matters aside, nm

12:56

i happen to agree : if you happen to be poor and happen to be loud, being shot is the correct policy.

12:56

it's how i ran my town the only time i ever ran a town, and it's how i intend to run any town i ever run.

12:56

lel

12:57

shooting people certainly a lot more practical than "helping" people.

12:57

seeing how i've seen shot people with mine own eyes, but helped people i am entirely unsure anyone ever saw.

12:57

!s more persuasive than persuasion

12:57

2 results for 'more persuasive than persuasion' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=more+persuasive+than+persuasion

12:58

in fairness, if you'd seen more people helped you'd have seen less people shot

12:58

this sounds like a worse outcome.

12:58

depending on your parser

12:59

but you know that trite happens to be a sort of banal, right ?

12:59

the only trite thing these days is "helping".

12:59

done to death. time for some fresh.

13:00

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00048448 = 11.0461 BTC [+] {2}

13:00

actually pretty much anything pete says falls under the category of trite, too

13:01

he's like a mini-mp, but without the circuitous argument skills

13:01

lol

13:02

!rate funkenstein_: 2 met in the flesh, has a great blogpost "on chumponomics"

13:02

funkenstein_: is not registered in WoT.

13:02

and i guess the btc wealth

13:02

not really sure what pete's pocketbook looks like

13:03

like jupiter but without the mass !

13:03

AOOOOOO

13:03

!rate funkenstein_ 2 met in the flesh, has a great blogpost "on chumponomics"

13:03

Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/786bebe599d1f35c

13:03

whaack link to that ?

13:03

nubbins` iirc he said when i asked him, lemme see

13:03

frass.woodcoin.org/on-chumponomics/

13:03

12 years in catholic school, i'm done with mass 8)

13:03

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-09-2015#1288808

13:03

Logged on 30-09-2015 19:07:55; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu property manager of a small, older commercial building that my father owns. 6 tenants, 100 occupants, fun little project. also manage two residential properties. also manage a small start-up in the construction materials space, we make the first/only/bestest fibreglass composite curtain wall framing. and then there's the little one. le petit monstre...

13:03

woodcoin.org?!

13:03

WHAT IS THIS

13:04

this guy got an altcoin

13:04

mircea_popescu so he "manages" a couple things for dad?

13:04

iirc i bought some bitpennies' worth

13:04

*

nubbins` puts more weight on pete's words going forward

13:04

nubbins` for all you know it's a tax dodge

13:04

*

mircea_popescu has no idea.

13:04

It's been posted here before http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-05-2015#1119570

13:04

Logged on 04-05-2015 16:58:27; assbot: On Chumponomics | Free your Frass ... ( http://bit.ly/1ES0xt8 )

13:04

for all i know it's all made up

13:05

and you're a girl.

13:05

nothing shameful about a family business.

13:05

you've seen pictures of my body

13:05

but for all i know...

13:05

:D

13:05

trinque: iirc he has a day job, as a health inspector, somewhere

13:05

beyond this, i've nfi

13:05

trinque nothing remarkable either

13:05

orly ? why not ?

13:06

same reason an inheritance is unremarkable

13:06

this'd be a fine example of trite.

13:06

an inheritance was unremarkable. WAS. three centuries ago.

13:06

today, it's fucking remarkable. means about the same as a dog's pedigree

13:06

heh

13:06

and you wouldn't buy a dog without a pedigree.

13:06

remarkable in the sense that saving for the future is remarkable

13:07

unremarkable in the sense that any asshole can get a windfall

13:07

"this guy was spawned by people together enough to actually own something. unlike everyone on the internet, who is here mostly because their mother thought being ugly is enough excuse to fuck drunks.

13:07

mno.

13:07

"pete's so amazing, his dad bequeathed him a suitcase of bills"

13:07

AMAZING COMPANY!

13:07

all things equal i'd rather deal with someone who comes from sane parents.

13:07

this is a poor person's notion of the wealthy.

13:07

mircea_popescu lol my entire generation was spawned by people together enough to actually own something. and they're all fuckups

13:08

i guess it depends on teh parser.

13:08

8)

13:08

so much does, hey?

13:08

but i'm still gonna get you for that circuitous.

13:08

gotta catch me first.

13:08

this can be accomplished by either speeding up OR slowing down

13:08

lol.

13:09

don't look a gift painting in the brush

13:09

^ parallel universes collapsed as i wrote that

13:10

anyway

13:10

there's a set of lifestyles that allow one to dick around on irc all day

13:10

generally known as "non-bum ; non-blue collar"

13:11

that's one half

13:11

tho some people push the bum envelope pretty hard.

13:11

the other half is "on welfare"

13:11

consider that there are people active in here on a daily basis who are 100% supported by the state, and others who are 100% self-supporting

13:12

if you don't work in tech, odds are you're one of the former

13:13

!up ascii_field

13:13

some of even live in communist shitholes where tech and ~all else is state-supported

13:13

tech, finance, governance, hey, do you count the usg plants as self-supported or state-supported ?

13:14

check it out, nubbins` schematic thought naufraged once more on the circuitous beaches of irl.

13:14

depends on the parser?

13:14

lol

13:14

ascii_field ironically, the "tech and all else is state supported" shithole mostly would be the bay area.

13:15

if you're on a computer all day long and you don't /work/ at a computer all day long, chances are you're coasting. either on your own funds or someone else's

13:15

with a little bit of portland and seattle etc.

13:15

nubbins` im actually on three computers. one of which is mining magical dungbeetles.

13:15

i consider that work.

13:15

me too

13:16

ironically, my virtual game character made more in november than 50% of earth's population, and most africans.

13:16

now suppose instead of mining dung beetles, you're waiting for a tenant to say the radiator's busted in your dad's building

13:16

*

pete_dushenski leaves for few minutes, only to discover that his dad is dead and bequeathed him some paper, that's he's mp-but-no-mp, that he didn't retire from health inspection, and that he's on welfare because not 'in tech'.

13:16

you guys are wild !

13:16

i think your parser is broken

13:17

:P

13:17

mp-but-no-mp is generous

13:17

pete_dushenski ironically, nubbins` retired from tech to do artsy bs, and now has a sweet tooth for anyone daring not be in tech!

13:17

pete_dushenski: hey one time i left for an hour and came back to discover that i suffer from depersonalization and am dog-who-identifies-as-cat

13:17

really i retired from tech to stave off suicide later in life, but this is splitting hairs

13:17

nubbins`: whole thing was 'generous'. twas the point ;/

13:17

in fairness, if i were a woman, and worked my ass off for kink.com throughout my teen years, and then retired to... start my own perfume line,

13:18

i'd be pretty harsh to all these hussies daring to prance around in like clothes

13:18

and where's all the cum ?!

13:18

ascii_field: l0l!

13:18

ascii_field i left for 7 weeks and nobody but you wondered about me ;(

13:18

hurts.jpg

13:18

i wondered!

13:18

aw

13:18

i've been making homebrew

13:18

the interdweebs can be a harsh mistress!

13:18

and published an art book

13:19

hand-printed, hand-bound!

13:19

eh nubbins` i thought of you!111 every time i papercutted on my ragged bitcoin printout binder

13:19

nubbins` are you gonna get butthurt if i tell you the thing sucked ?

13:19

not rly, i don't value yr opinion on art

13:19

go ahead

13:19

aite.

13:20

bbl

13:20

it's mostly a vehicle for advertising our skills at silkscreen printing

13:20

content is mostly irrelevant

13:20

ah

13:21

one crazy fucker bought 5 copies

13:21

nfi

13:21

*

mircea_popescu doesn't recall the last time he actually saw a competent draughstman / painter / anything.

13:22

i'm an exceptionally competent printer

13:22

whole lotta doodlers.

13:22

well printing's an industry not an art!

13:22

yep

13:22

i'm a technician more than anything

13:22

BUT

13:22

lemme find some close-up photos that will mean absolutely nothing to you

13:22

actually The Story of Nubbins the Industrious would make a pretty decent book title.

13:23

http://www.gigposters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162215&page=2&p=2077517&viewfull=1#post2077517

13:23

CMYK printing - very light and dark tones - Page 2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1lozNdW )

13:23

post #19 if you don't feel like waiting for the jump

13:24

20s better

13:24

anyway, yes, they're well printed.

13:25

it requires a couple years of abject failure to truly appreciate, but tyvm

13:25

were these made by hand ?

13:25

yep

13:25

mix our own inks from scratch too

13:25

cuz i can see some laser markings

13:26

do you have any pics of the chisels you used ?

13:26

;/

13:26

aww i'm just kidding.

13:26

that shit was too funny.

13:26

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51q1HA-zYAL._SX342_.jpg

13:26

... ( http://bit.ly/1TwfYMh )

13:27

ignore the watermark & url, these are my actual tools

13:27

ahahaha

13:27

the mirror is for checking.

13:27

"my factchecking mirror"

13:28

gigposters forums are a wealth of info

13:28

odd thing to say about a forum

13:28

but hey

13:28

actually unfashionable, prof driven forums are usually ok.

13:28

the plague starts once bitcoin/experts sexchange/seo/mommy/ what have you default activities of those who really should have been shot in their teen years.

13:29

heh

13:29

gigposters has "premium membership" ($20/yr) and people get turbo shit-on if they ask too many questions w/o coughing up some funds

13:29

oddly... it works.

13:29

somewhat related, pix & video of me at work: http://www.gigposters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162207

13:29

Common printing problems and their solutions ... ( http://bit.ly/1TwgrOu )

13:33

*

nubbins` gives back to the commyoonity

13:33

in fact, i feel deeply indebted to the place, as i essentially learned my trade there

13:34

why not feel deeply indebted to the actual people that taught you ?

13:35

*

mircea_popescu has ~0 anything for "the school", remembers some teachers.

13:36

Cuz football. Or I guess that's just the party schools.

13:37

I have found a correlation to alumni dedication and how "out of control" the partying is at said alma matar.

13:39

i guess if the sluts were good i'd credit the school more than the individual sluts in question... maybe.

13:39

mircea_popescu it's a schelling point, couldn't have found the actual people were it not for the venue

13:39

so ?

13:40

why not pledge fealty to mp instead of TMSRO~

13:41

this is exactly why the wot exists - to disinhabituate socialists from stealing from the people and giving to "the institution" so that lenin, stalin or whatever other nigger can then steal it.

13:41

there is no tmsr outside of the nodes in the wot graph

13:41

there is no gigposters forum outside of the knowledgeable who post there

13:42

*

mircea_popescu is a little wary of this theory. zuckerberg thinks he owns facebook.

13:42

what facebook ?

13:42

what fb indeed.

13:42

a different angle: what better way to encourage indebtedness to me?

13:42

hm ?

13:43

tons of noobs out there failing at screenprinting

13:43

until they come across my posts

13:43

(they still fail but at least know why)

13:43

so what's the trouble with that ?

13:43

no trouble at all

13:44

remarkably, you do use your name :)

13:44

:D

13:44

some intuition of the whole thing doth exist.

13:44

before i commit to this character, am i supposed to be able to change physical features?

13:44

nah

13:44

clicking things seems not to change avatar

13:44

ah k

13:44

o hey characters huh ?

13:45

get foxy's bot while at it, it's very useful.

13:49

the glow burns me ;/

13:50

haha

13:50

find your way uphill, there's some tables there and a coupla animated fruitboxes

13:50

ima be over in a minute.

13:50

fix you up with some tools and assorted junk

13:53

WTF PEOPLE. Arguing "Bitcoin needs to be able to change and evolve" to back your opinion on hard forks is beyond fucktarded.

13:53

I srsly feel like Dave Chappelle up in this bitch. I want to believe people have potential to become actual human beings, but I guess I'm wrong.

13:53

http://i.imgur.com/z32pjAb.png

13:53

... ( http://bit.ly/1Twk6fg )

13:53

i am in / why is everyone black

13:54

you're missing texture data

13:54

and the sky box

13:55

kakobrekla

its called african american

13:55

:/

13:56

lol. it's night time~!

13:57

ooop there comes the sky!

13:57

*

nubbins` total noob

14:04

hola cristina

14:04

btw nubbins` if you want a job i prolly got something for you :D

14:05

you quite literally would prob have to walk me through it

14:05

!up btcdrak

14:05

!up Cristina

14:05

ahora si puedo ablar jeje

14:06

<+mircea_popescu> hola hola

14:06

didja go to the slutwalk ?

14:06

i may have to start out with basic things like "how to do anything besides walking around"

14:07

well prolly should do that in #eulora, and also... don't you enjoy a mystery ? :D

14:07

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27080 @ 0.00048367 = 13.0978 BTC [-] {2}

14:08

haha yep

14:08

eulora has this very pronounced old style adventure quality to it, for the first few hours/days/weeks/we it takews you.

14:09

que tal todo por a qui?

14:09

mucho trabajo??

14:09

mno.

14:18

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54450 @ 0.00048368 = 26.3364 BTC [+]

14:19

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49120 @ 0.00048205 = 23.6783 BTC [-] {2}

14:25

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91003 @ 0.00048368 = 44.0163 BTC [+]

14:37

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338114 << i'm agreeing with you dude, thus 'service economy' line. i know full well that nfld had jack all for an economy 15 years ago and will likely be back where it started 15 years hence.

14:37

Logged on 07-12-2015 17:47:28; nubbins`: you've obv never been here

14:37

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338117 << funny, syrians don't seem to much care for -40C

14:37

Logged on 07-12-2015 17:48:11; mircea_popescu: talk to teh syrian immigrants.

14:37

15 if we're lucky, 2 if not

14:37

we sorta put all our eggs in the oil basket

14:37

not sure why, but all the syrians who come to canada stay in big cities and stay the fuck away from fort mcmurray

14:38

because fort mac is full of fuckin shitty rednecks?

14:38

nubbins`: well, tbf, what other basket was there than oil ?

14:38

and it costs $800/mo to rent a hammock in an unheated shed?

14:39

pete_dushenski prudence woulda been putting the grease money into something else before it was too late

14:39

*

pete_dushenski was landlord in fort mac during 'good times', knows.

14:39

instead, we have muskrat falls

14:39

massive boondoggle megaproject already billions over budget

14:39

muskrat falls ? hydroelectric dam ?

14:40

yeah

14:40

eventually, anyway.

14:40

power lines running from labrador across the strait to the island

14:40

across the fucking long-range fucking mountains

14:40

down thru NL and over the water to NS

14:40

and then to american markets and beyond

14:40

well, again, tbf, it's entirely in the nature of mega-projects to go over-budget and past 'expected' timeline for completion

14:41

oh sure.

14:41

pretty sure 95%+ of such projects have these same issues

14:41

tbf, if it happens every time, maybe just bump up the numbers from the start

14:41

i dunno, the last ice age didn't go over budget.

14:41

"it's weird, we blow our snowclearing budget by january 5th every year"

14:41

i dunno, maybe budget more?

14:41

nubbins`: lol but voters can't handle the truth !

14:41

it's theft dude.

14:41

"it's weird, the wevils eat our grain i na week"

14:41

voters can't handle much

14:41

"put more grain in there"

14:41

logic.

14:42

nl politics is weird

14:42

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338119 << so... tell 'em to rent. what. "everyone should have house and make profit all teh timez" ? please.

14:42

Logged on 07-12-2015 17:49:06; nubbins`: pete_dushenski all the people whose houses are suddenly worth less than the outstanding mortgages would tend to disagree that "all will be well"

14:42

same exact thing happened to the athenian fucking fleet.

14:42

heh.

14:42

"it's weird, huh."

14:42

"my house is worth 100k and i owe 200k" "so just rent"

14:42

o.O

14:43

what. declare bankruptcy, start over.

14:43

or RENT IN THE FIRST PLACE

14:43

yes, or rent in the first place

14:43

wtf were you doing taking out massive loan when you didn't understand downside risk

14:43

fuck you and your stupid mother.

14:43

well, this, yes.

14:44

but telling them to rent after the fact is gibberish

14:44

ok, they should live on the street after the fact ;/

14:44

learn a fucking lesson

14:44

and teach one to their kids

14:44

tbf it's not a lesson unless they wanna sell

14:45

"don't borrow a lot of money unless you're fucking rich"

14:45

house worth 100k and you owe 200k? just keep living in it :P

14:45

hope you saved yr oil money

14:45

"don't borrow a lot of money unless you don't need to" is ok advice

14:45

kinda the whole point of property being that solvent owners really don't give a shit what other parties think things be "worth".

14:46

for someone like me, market value affects property tax, little else

14:46

nubbins`: i feel sorry for the idjits paying down 200k mortgage for house that will only ever be worth 100k. why not light money on fire ? stay warm, enjoy the show ?

14:46

so the mortgage goes up $50/mo. big whoop.

14:46

pete_dushenski now you've got empathy?!

14:47

pfff

14:47

cynic

14:47

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16243 @ 0.00048205 = 7.8299 BTC [-] {2}

14:47

yam what i yam

14:47

i actually received a new property assessment in the mail last week

14:47

so explain to me guy who keeps paying down 200k mortgage on 100k house. does he expect house to one day be worth 200k again ?

14:48

pete_dushenski maybe, maybe not. either way, he's gonna spend $12k/year on living space

14:48

whether that's paying off a too-high mortgage or paying off someone ELSE'S too-high mortgage is his choice

14:49

i feel there's more value in one than the other, ymmv

14:51

renting is fine if you wanna work forever

14:51

if you'd rather work less as time goes on, well, maybe buy?

14:52

put another way, let's say you rent for a year. at the end of the year, what do you have to show for it?

14:52

ok, let's work the with 'maybe house will never again be worth 200k' condition. why not give 12k to landlord instead of bank ? will landlord not put that money to more practicable and local use, having a higher probability of bettering renter's station ?

14:53

probably not, no.

14:53

oh ? how do you figure ?

14:53

because i'd see local landlord and caring more about my town than some bank in toronto

14:54

s/and/as

14:54

landlords don't give a red fuck about their towns

14:54

in general

14:54

besides, how's the landlord buying a new snowblower at Wal-Mart helping the local anything?

14:54

well, you're a landlord aintcha, don't you care about your town ?

14:54

log says i do, yep

14:55

but i'm not building community spaces out of my profit either

14:55

i'm spending it on my greedy self

14:55

you're a small time landlord though, and even still i'm sure you don't buy much of anything at usg-megacorp-retail-centre

14:56

agreed

14:56

you probably buy local, neh ?

14:56

i try!

14:56

of course you do !

14:56

that's my point.

14:56

that landlords, like yourself, like myself, give a shit about the places they live MORE than the banks from far-off lands.

14:57

it's not binary, of course, just that we care ~more~

14:57

this, then, in turn benefits the tenants, our tenants

14:57

on the whole, i disagree

14:57

i buy local not because i'm a landlord but because i'm not an idiot

14:58

most landlords spend all their money at big box stores

14:58

where maybe 5-10 cents of every dollar they spend stays in the community

14:58

MAYBE

14:58

the rest goes to the waltons, or the irvings, or whomever

14:59

most landlords around here are more properly called slumlords

14:59

and they DGAF about their rentals

15:01

or their tenants

15:02

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110402 @ 0.00048387 = 53.4202 BTC [+] {3}

15:03

mkay. so maybe in halifax, the banks are the warm huggy people who care and the local slumlords and the jerkoffs. what do i know.

15:07

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338212 << srs.

15:07

Logged on 07-12-2015 18:06:26; mircea_popescu: an inheritance was unremarkable. WAS. three centuries ago.

15:08

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338217 << in a sense, yes, those with sane and productive parents are indeed 'lottery winners', the key difference being that, unlike 6/49 winners, the 'lucky' kids have skills and blood-related mentors !!1

15:08

Logged on 07-12-2015 18:07:06; nubbins`: unremarkable in the sense that any asshole can get a windfall

15:09

halifax sux

15:09

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338224 << the parents never owned anything. if you didn't pass it down, what the fuck did you do with it ? blow and hookerz ?

15:09

Logged on 07-12-2015 18:07:55; nubbins`: mircea_popescu lol my entire generation was spawned by people together enough to actually own something. and they're all fuckups

15:10

dude i'm 33, the parents are still living

15:11

"boomer" parents fluked into a historical windfall ~themselves~, like y'know, actual lottery winners. that their kids didn't manage to hold onto a dime of it is par for the course.

15:12

show me the "boomer echo" kid whose great-grandparents actually owned something and i'll show you a kid who's doing well for himself today.

15:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38050 @ 0.00048384 = 18.4101 BTC [-]

15:15

my great-grandparents floated over on the Empress of Ireland and lived in a canvas tent in Banff for 5 years

15:16

before scrounging enough to build a more permanent home

15:17

lotta keefes in the ground out west

15:18

and i don't think there were many flukes or windfalls this far east

15:24

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44300 @ 0.00048205 = 21.3548 BTC [-] {2}

15:25

definitely not as many windfalls in eastern canada as western canada, which is why obviously why some of our ancestors put up with the nightmarish cold and long winter nights :)

15:38

https://archive.is/XqnL7

15:38

Oh look, we’re back to “record” Chinese capital outflows | FT Alphaville ... ( http://bit.ly/1QrJmE3 )

15:44

http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/07/ibm-asks-women-in-tech-to-hack-the-hair-dryer-women-tweet-back-to-let-ibm-know-its-not-the-1950s/

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64400 @ 0.00048104 = 30.979 BTC [-] {5}

~ 15 minutes ~

15:59

kakobrekla

15:59

IBM Asks Women In Tech To Hack Hair Dryers, Women Tweet Back To Tell IBM It’s Not The 1950s | TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1SK0KTy )

16:00

!up ascii_field

16:01

http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/05/we-have-always-been-at-war-with-large-prime-numbers << l0ltr0n1c

16:01

This War On Math Is Bullshit | TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1SK10SI )

~ 27 minutes ~

16:28

bahaha https://twitter.com/ClareFoges/status/668112043384393732

~ 17 minutes ~

16:46

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105047 @ 0.00048292 = 50.7293 BTC [+] {2}

16:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87900 @ 0.00048012 = 42.2025 BTC [-] {4}

16:59

@kav_p .@IBM Oh good gosh hack a hairdryer that'll make tech more easy for women to understand! Next time can we hack a delicious baked dinner?

16:59

^ i don't see how cooking well is an undesirable skill, but apparently i can't begin to comprehend 'women in tech'

17:02

my desk mate is a woman in tech

17:02

does she abhor cooking ?

17:03

yes

17:03

then she's perfect for the job !

17:03

I abhor cooking, only because I want immediate gratification when it comes to deliciousness.

17:04

"http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1559720/000116840415000029/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml << airbnb now 'worth' $25 BEELEEON

17:04

How the fuck.

17:05

;;google "site:trilema.com lets have fund with paul graham"

17:05

Let's have fun with Paul Graham on Trilema - A blog by Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2012/lets-have-fun-with-paul-graham/>; Ycombinator continues to suck, jointly and severally - Mircea Popescu: <http://trilema.com/2013/ycombinator-continues-to-suck-jointly-and-severally/>; You know what gets no airplay ? Unflattering truth. on Trilema - A ...: <http://trilema.com/2015/you- (1 more message)

17:05

*

pete_dushenski recently tried using airbnb to look for apartments in cologne, germany, not only didn't find, but computer KERNEL PANICED just by using their cutting-edge website. fucking. twice.

17:05

^- guess the investors didn't do their reading

17:05

!up ascii_field

17:06

pete_dushenski: 3xpl01t4bl3!1???111?

17:06

pete_dushenski: (do you have a crash dump or the like ?)

17:06

thestringpuller: or investors read and still figures "hey, there's bigger chumps out there than me! i won't be the last one standing when the music stops! not this guy!"

17:06

pete_dushenski: http://trilema.com/2012/lets-have-fun-with-paul-graham/#comment-99322 << my experience with airbnb

17:07

pete_dushenski: funny how fiat investing has devolved into musical chairs for retards.

17:07

ascii_field: not at hand.

17:07

eh

17:07

pete_dushenski: ya could be sitting on a $100k mac anal hole

17:08

"you're shitting on a goldmine, trebek! if you had a penis mighter, i'd order a dozen!"

17:08

"the category is 'the pen is mightier', mr. connery"

17:09

tell it to the|rapist

17:09

l0l

17:09

thestringpuller: i had excellent experiences with airbnb 2.5 years ago in croatia. seems like it's gone to pot since then.

17:09

ascii_field: :D

17:10

*

pete_dushenski does a mean connery impression

17:10

but mean as in good !

17:10

^- cause canadian?

17:10

jk

17:10

l0l cuz 'classical education'

17:11

ie. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/02/the-fruits-of-a-classical-education/

17:11

The fruits of a classical education. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/21KtqlH )

17:12

pete_dushenski: thought about you the other day

17:12

buddy told me that some cops confiscated a Nissan GTR from some local drug dealer

17:12

and so the cops now have a GTR police car...

17:14

thestringpuller: pretty sure this is increasingly common in the states

17:14

iirc there was a newer corvette (c6?) that suffered a similar fate recently.

17:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57338 @ 0.000484 = 27.7516 BTC [+] {3}

17:14

That's just sad.

17:14

but hey, if you can't actually afford the cars (a la dubai), how else ?

17:15

I got pulled over going like 60, and the cop was like "I don't want to have to peel you off that guard rail"

17:15

and I was like "D00d you must have failed physics. My car is built to go 80 in mud, and I've tuned it for such. Also this is a straight away"

17:15

"I could easily write you a ticket for going 20 over" "Not without having clocked me. Good luck getting that through court."

17:16

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2529963/Cop-gear-Dubai-police-forces-latest-squad-car-170-000-207mph-McLaren-MP4-12C-joins-fleet-including-Lamborghini-Aston-Martin-Bentley-Ferrari.html

17:16

Dubai police cars include a McLaren, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Bentley and Ferrari | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1lKaWkc )

17:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84350 @ 0.00048618 = 41.0093 BTC [+] {2}

17:17

thestringpuller: could've also answered, "i could easily shoot you in the stomach, wanna play chicken ?"

17:18

o hey qntra is back.

17:18

Our county doesn't want a dead nigga scandal.

17:19

ya, save that for obama !

17:19

Particularly unarmed dead nigga scandal.

17:19

XD

17:19

in other news, http://trilema.com/2015/the-bitlove-llc-spin-on-their-recent-implosion-as-presented-to-their-captive-audience/#comment-115997

17:19

The Bitlove LLC spin on their recent implosion, as presented to their captive audience. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/21KuOVi )

17:19

#blacklivesmatter

17:19

or whatever

17:25

kakobrekla

so, bip65 will be active in a day or so now

17:27

kakobrekla does it matter ?

17:30

apparently if client doesn't implement softfork miners can slip in invalid tx's that the client won't recognize...

17:30

dunno how true this is tho...

17:30

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49150 @ 0.00048683 = 23.9277 BTC [+] {3}

17:31

so the client won't recognize them. what's the problem ?

17:31

you're not obligated to accept txn you don't want to accept.

17:33

"Note, however, that time-based locktime transactions are more or less unseen on the network currently." is the point of interest. currently, and permanently, nobody gives a shit about the entire bondogle eithger way.

17:33

"Implication for users: GetMedianTimePast() always trails behind the current time, so a transaction locktime set to the present time will be rejected by nodes running this release until the median time moves forward. To compensate, subtract one hour (3,600 seconds) from your locktimes to allow those transactions to be included in mempools at approximately the expected time."

17:33

translates to "and the dumb shit doesn't even work anyway"

17:34

it never really did. the point of nlock was to hand a transaction over to someone in a "will" like form

17:34

peter todd just really wanted the blockchain to enforce the time limit

17:35

(since before it didn't write nlock tx's to blockchain. they would just sit in mempool)

17:36

whatever. you can put an arbitrary number in your txn anyway, and usg-time's never going to be anything but an arbitrary number.

17:36

but i lol at the sort of idiot who actually relies on THIS for their will.

17:36

hence why it never really worked in the first place.

17:36

of course, they exist about in the numbers "ethereum investors" exist, which is to say purely in the feverish imagination of various "hacker" derps

17:37

"ethereum investors" now reads as M$ to me. since my boss just showed me a beta to use eth on Azure...which makes no sense.

17:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00047926 = 6.3023 BTC [-] {2}

17:39

pete_dushenski: do you have literature on the yoga you do for the computer?

17:41

^ along these lines, a standing desk also helps quite a bit.

17:43

thestringpuller: http://www.yogajournal.com/category/beginners/how-to/office-yoga/ looks like a good start

17:43

Yoga for the Office: Practice While You're at Work ... ( http://bit.ly/21KyHcO )

17:44

i've actually been out of practice since fatherhood started, was doing a lunch-time session once a week aimed specifically at office/computer jockeys

17:49

aaaand nov 20 was the last time we cracked 1000 lines in a day.

17:49

i blame the lack of nubbins` !

17:50

lol

17:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95600 @ 0.00047783 = 45.6805 BTC [-] {4}

17:57

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-12-2015#1337522 << I've pulled the whole set again (including Nov), bundle out shortly.

17:57

Logged on 06-12-2015 20:00:47; phf: kakobrekla: phf logs fixed re tabs and newlines << cool everything parses clean now

18:02

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338056 << notrly. all things being equal, it's much better for kids to grow up in squalour than in "reasonable" conditions.

18:02

Logged on 07-12-2015 17:22:23; nubbins`: "but won't kids born to addict parents be fucked from the start and stay that way their whole lives?" yep

18:02

as you say, look at the shit the boomers spawned.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338077 << all, preferably.

18:04

Logged on 07-12-2015 17:24:42; ascii_field: the little trick is that when you're throwing away people, it helps to make sure that all or most of them actually are garbage

18:06

*

pete_dushenski off to (another) christmas concert. tis the season !

18:08

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338078 << this is a very naive view of price formation. if mere prohibition worked all the usg'd have to do to save the dollar would be to forbid people from owning it.

18:08

Logged on 07-12-2015 17:24:44; trinque: prohibition drives the price through the roof, which allows the whole thing to sustain itself.

18:08

notwithstanding that it's doing exactly that, and in point of fact for a reason very similar to your thinking, nevertheless it has obviously no prayer in hell of working. it's not even wrong, it;s unrelated.

18:09

drugs were also verboten in communist romania - they didnt' have a price there. you'd have died of hunger with a brick of pure cocaine.

18:11

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338080 <<< certainly not better, hardly safer. it'd be a pretty bleak feudal crapsack with average lifespans in the 30s and unwilling slave women.

18:11

Logged on 07-12-2015 17:25:23; nubbins`: trinque if there were no drug prohibition, the world would be a better, safer place

18:12

of course, the concept of "average" lifespan wouldn't make any intuitive sense, wut do you mean "average".

18:12

how about prohibition of a product that sells itself?

18:12

what does this mean ?

18:13

in the conversation linked, nubbins was discussing the newfie coke heads. seems like quite a task to stop the massive demand there.

18:13

meanwhile prohibiting the product limits and complicates the supply

18:14

that may be. but consider the situatuon of real estate. is "housing" a product that "sells itself" ?

18:14

what is the principal driver of price in real estate ?

18:15

(here's a hint : imbecile argentines imagine a tiny 1000 sqft apt is worth 150-200k usd, in their shit town. why ? why, because the government's been printing money, and people kept "investing" it, there's about two to five trillion pesos that have to be wiped out of the economy before it can return to working)

18:15

this is what confounds a simple answer to your question.

18:15

the cost of the blowjob, and of the gram, and of the bed are not a function of how forbidden it is.

18:15

they're a functrion of how much money ios sloshing around.

18:16

approach it from the other angle, the demand elasticity. take cokehead with $1000 income and a $1000 drug habit.

18:16

suppose his income doubles to $2000. is he now going to... save $1000 ?

18:16

[Trilema] Further views from Noesunpaispobre - http://trilema.com/2015/further-views-from-noesunpaispobre/

18:17

certainly not

18:17

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338086 << it's a good proxy for poverty. which is criminal, fundamentally and essentially criminal. there is no crime that doesn't both spawn from and reduces to "being poor".

18:17

Logged on 07-12-2015 17:26:23; nubbins`: treating drug abuse as crime is maybe the dumbest thing i can think of at the moment

18:20

so my point is, to sum it up : that the prohibition of the drug trade has nothing to do with economics. it is a purely political choice, of trying to enact equality between the poor and the rest. this desperate, doomed nonsense may be ineffectual, painful, difficult, costly or what else have you, boring, whatever. it is nevertheless the ONLY thing that keeps the average lifespan of the not-us from being ~24 ; and the f

18:20

ate of any female aged ~14 with decent tits and a little bit of length of bone from being forcibly injected.

18:20

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40924 @ 0.00048303 = 19.7675 BTC [+] {2}

18:20

the choices you have before you are the choices you have before you, not the choices you wish to have before you.

18:21

if drugs aren't illegal walmart is going to force-feed its workforce meth and go through 10x as many poor people.

18:21

perhaps even feed the employees the previous employees. god knows they did it to the cows, and only stopped because WE complained. not because the cows complained.

18:21

for all they cared, cow can sit in shit up to the belly and get more antibiotics.

18:22

and i'm going to ride through detroit atop a tank and shoot tranquilizer guns at anything that can twerk.

18:23

ahaha

18:23

and so the price is because, simply, they will pay it, as the product causes them to compulsively go after the product

18:23

pretty much.

18:23

they have it, see ?

18:24

what's the cost of a blowjob to the miner with a sackful of gold dust ?

18:25

*

trinque ought to have considered the effectiveness of prohibition, and not simply the idea of it.

18:25

figure it out, old whore de kirschner and her dumbass puddel scioli figured they'd stay in power on the votes of the poor. the very same fducking poor they prevented from having a life. and it blew up. if only they had meth and heroin on their side!

18:26

this country is roughly in the situation of the us cca 1815, with one major difference : buenos aires is their new york, yes, the port. but in argentina, 20 of 40 mn live in the port. that's half. in the us, less than 5% lived in the port. the rest went the fuck to ohio and built a farm.

18:27

but no, they want them here, living in bidonvilles "en la capital", so they keep voting peronistas in exchange for a little flour, so the peronistas can go to europe and borrow "to develop argentina" and then spend to... fuck up argentina.

18:27

obama won, on the same ticket. what if instead of "obamacare" they could have peddled "free heroin!!1 these mean people want to take it away!"

18:28

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338106 << ironically, macri intends to pay.

18:28

Logged on 07-12-2015 17:33:37; pete_dushenski: "There's about €3bn of London Club debt "trading" at 15 cents of par last time I checked. If you find Argentine bonds just not exotic enough" << everyone's an investor eh. p2p lending is da footoor !

18:28

I see. My line of thinking was that "this expediates the decay of those already rotting, and so what?"

18:29

that may be the hit of the century, guys bought the shit at 1.5 cents to the dollar, may well see full repayment a decade later.

18:29

trinque leaves no one no way out, either.

18:32

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338468 << money. what do you have to show for it ?

18:32

Logged on 07-12-2015 19:52:37; nubbins`: put another way, let's say you rent for a year. at the end of the year, what do you have to show for it?

18:32

(pro tip : bills.)

18:34

and if you want actual numbers, i just got a coupla girlies an apt. the sale value would have been i guess 160-170k or so. the monthly rent is 750. the first month, the washing machine went, and the owner replaced it. the next month, ac went (brother was that an incredible pos job wow), owner replaced it. so far owner's been making 0 from his property.

↖ ↖ ↖

18:36

on the other hand, if i were a fucktarded argentine borrowing for this, i'd owe ~2.5mn peso principal + 300k or so a year interest + whatever you figure the devaluation risk costs me. over a 30 year period (heh, you gonna work for 30 years ? srsly ?) this comes to at the very least 40k a month. that's just about 2750 dollars.

18:36

so at the end of each month i got a coupla grand to show for not having been an idiot ; the owner's got some bills.

18:37

altenratively, if i were a fucktarded bitcoin owner i could have sold no less than 500 btc to pay for it. and in 30 years i'd have a great story about how i sold enough btc to buy nevada to get an apartment in a third world city.

18:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00047736 = 14.7266 BTC [-] {2}

18:39

and don't tell me "it ain't like that where i live". obviously it ain't, and you're an idiot for living there in the first place.

18:39

for this reason. the fundamental incentive to living anywhere is whether you can stick it to the middle class through this mechanism or not. if you can't, they can stew in their own juices and play mahjong or whatever the fuck they play, bingo.

18:47

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338537 << "could" they buy all of china yet ?

18:47

Logged on 07-12-2015 22:04:45; thestringpuller: How the fuck.

18:48

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338550 << i thought they can't be sold :D

18:48

Logged on 07-12-2015 22:07:52; ascii_field: pete_dushenski: ya could be sitting on a $100k mac anal hole

18:53

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27025 @ 0.00048304 = 13.0542 BTC [+]

18:54

jurov

they can be sold, but not by alf due to his shining aura of innocence

18:55

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338645 << Verily, because if not monetarily poor can afford rehab. Otherwise not poor of spirit/will can rehab before criminal justice system discovers other poverty.

18:55

Logged on 07-12-2015 23:17:44; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338086 << it's a good proxy for poverty. which is criminal, fundamentally and essentially criminal. there is no crime that doesn't both spawn from and reduces to "being poor".

18:55

also because plutonium.

18:56

but in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/16e3e3624b0fcda10ac118ea4f094c98/tumblr_mumbh4MJ961rfc12eo1_1280.jpg

18:56

... ( http://bit.ly/1NeDCsM )

18:57

!up ascii_field

18:58

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338682 << can be but you gotta be l337

18:58

Logged on 07-12-2015 23:48:28; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338550 << i thought they can't be sold :D

18:59

(quite likely some of the folks here- could.)

19:00

http://www.joplinglobe.com/news/update-crowder-students-being-released-neosho-campus-to-remain-closed/article_443dfd76-9cef-11e5-888b-93fcaa3d2b31.html

19:00

Update: Crowder students being released, Neosho campus to remain closed - Joplin Globe: News ... ( http://bit.ly/1lplohu )

19:01

Fucking Neosho Missouri of all places no one needs to know existed

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.0004869 = 2.6536 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52726 @ 0.0004872 = 25.6881 BTC [+] {3}

20:29

wha happemned ?

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33505 @ 0.00048671 = 16.3072 BTC [-] {3}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40400 @ 0.00048845 = 19.7334 BTC [+] {3}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.00048311 = 13.5754 BTC [-] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32366 @ 0.00048837 = 15.8066 BTC [+] {3}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47645 @ 0.0004895 = 23.3222 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.0004895 = 3.2307 BTC [+]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47434 @ 0.00048084 = 22.8082 BTC [-] {4}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00048882 = 5.1571 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29672 @ 0.00048883 = 14.5046 BTC [+]

22:58

Something happened?

22:59

Well, something other than the log getting constipated

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00048687 = 8.5933 BTC [-] {2}

23:23

buenas noches

23:27

http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/07/desperately-trying-to-put-the-auto-back-into-automobile-in-a-flaccid-attempt-to-put-the-relevance-back-into-motoring/ but don't mention lidar or radar to the guy, he won't get it, nor the timescale differences between extremely slow automobiles and extremely fast bugs http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-12-2015#1337389

23:27

Desperately trying to put the “auto” back into automobile in a flaccid attempt to put the relevance back into motoring. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/21Ljto3 )

23:27

Logged on 06-12-2015 15:18:19; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-12-2015#1337214 << better than visual, that's for sure. ultrasound and radar works fine even at times the planes can't actually fly/land

23:37

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-12-2015#1337870 << love love love apple's creativity

23:37

Logged on 07-12-2015 16:32:16; phf: or maybe it's picking up your gcc since you have it installed. homebrew compiler selection algo is all kinds of creative

23:37

most recently, swift failed to ship with an 'either' type

23:37

implications left as exercise.

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