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00:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re: earlier thread, my hypothesis was that mr. nist wanted some dope and literally the only way he could conceive of getting it was to... make it
00:02 asciilifeform wanted in the sense of, to eat, personally
00:03 asciilifeform i have no idea if this makes sense to anyone but me
00:04 decimation it strikes me as more likely that it was some lowbrow schmoe with a gand scheme
00:04 asciilifeform if i needed dope for something, would be just as stuck as if needed plutonium
00:05 asciilifeform it literally does not exist in my universe
00:05 decimation you have the mental capacity & resourcefulness to make some
00:05 decimation not that it would be a terribly wise course
00:06 asciilifeform mr nist-dope exploded even with pro equipment
00:06 asciilifeform a not-uncommon situation in perfectly legit organic chem, incidentally
00:06 asciilifeform just ask uncle al
00:06 asciilifeform (who once lost, iirc, half of his skin)
00:07 decimation my former high school chemistry teacher complained about chemical engineers; they seemed to think nothing of boiling hexane
00:07 asciilifeform how do you intend to remove it from solution without boiling ?
00:08 phf i assumed same thing as asciilifeform, because sop in soviet union. my uncle died like that, botched centrifugation to extract alcohol from whatever was available, at his lab
00:09 asciilifeform aha.
00:11 BingoBoingo There are worse things in the world, like peroxide http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2014/10/10/things_i_wont_work_with_peroxide_peroxides.php
00:11 assbot Things I Won't Work With: Peroxide Peroxides. In the Pipeline: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlKCoJ )
00:11 scoopbot_revived Phuctor Factors 100th RSA Modulus http://qntra.net/2015/07/phuctor-factors-100th-rsa-modulus/
00:11 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/WhqS7
00:11 assbot Phuctor Factors 100th RSA Modulus | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlKJ3K )
00:11 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: in the near east, it is - i am told - traditional to blow oneself up with peroxide of acetone
00:11 asciilifeform (would-be 't3rr0r1st35111!!!')
00:12 BingoBoingo Well Hydrogen peroxide can be stable in some solutions. More organic peroxides... less so
00:12 phf (or, for the curious, expected ethanol, but got methanol)
00:12 asciilifeform ^ traditional 'prohibition' death
00:12 asciilifeform in usa also
00:13 BingoBoingo Things though always get worse http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2008/10/21/things_i_wont_work_with_triazadienyl_fluoride.php
00:13 assbot Things I Won't Work With: Triazadienyl Fluoride. In the Pipeline: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlKMfW )
00:13 BingoBoingo <phf> (or, for the curious, expected ethanol, but got methanol) << This is why I greatly prefer distilled spirits to beer
00:13 decimation hydrofloric acid is pretty nasty too
00:14 BingoBoingo This is La Monde! Where do you expect anything that isn't nasty!
00:14 hanbot le monde.
00:15 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://journals.lww.com/em-news/Fulltext/2004/10000/The_Jake_Walk_and_Limber_Trouble__A_Toxicology.45.aspx << related
00:16 BingoBoingo Eh, only 600 ml of vodka in tonight so far. Got the sads over Judge rotation.
00:16 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Apparently that article has drm preventing my access
00:17 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/vrccl
00:17 assbot The Jake Walk and Limber Trouble: A Toxicology Epidemic : Emergency Medicine News ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlL5HD )
00:19 asciilifeform ^ often incorrectly attributed, in nth-generation derp sources, to methanol
00:19 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: AH, proto-glyphosate
00:20 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211313 << wow srsly ? never heard of this one. how much ?
00:20 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 02:24:55; BingoBoingo: cazalla: Yeah. Dude ran to. Exit scam.
00:20 mircea_popescu i recall back when he was promoting it, it having a very distinct bitcoin-insanity vibe to it.
00:21 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I'll have to dig up what the minecraft casino was called. Forums figured ~150 BTC. Happened if I correctly recall right around TradeFartress deflated
00:21 mircea_popescu aha
00:21 BingoBoingo BitVegas it was called
00:22 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211589 << i can see it.
00:22 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 04:03:36; asciilifeform: i have no idea if this makes sense to anyone but me
00:27 BingoBoingo If university lab offers glass and hard to find reagents why not?
00:29 BingoBoingo It reportedly takes serious glass to make serious glass
00:29 BingoBoingo And France kills itself http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20150723_08.html
00:29 assbot France to reduce reliance on nuclear power - News - NHK WORLD - English ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlLXMd )
00:32 asciilifeform 'They said it would be unrealistic to close more than 20 of 58 reactors now in operation in the next 10 years. The legislation also includes a target of reducing the country's greenhouse gas emissions by 40 percent by 2030, compared to the level in 1990. The new law aims to eventually halve France's energy consumption by 2050 from the 2012 level.'
00:33 asciilifeform ^ entirely realistic. france --> morocco.
00:33 asciilifeform as was the plan.
00:33 decimation wtf why stop using nuke plants
00:33 asciilifeform because what do bedouins need mains current for
00:34 decimation talk about decline
00:35 BingoBoingo lol, small difference between studio apartments with gypsum drywall and mudhuts which happen to have a lot of gypsum in the walls. Just normally the huts are more durable
00:35 asciilifeform 'The senior officers of the GRU have a particular dislike of Western nuclear power stations, which reduce the West's dependence on imported oil (including Soviet oil) and make it stronger and more independent. They are one of spetsnaz's, most important targets.'
00:35 asciilifeform ( http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/08.html where else )
00:35 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlMm1e )
00:35 decimation lol turns out they didn't need to blow them up
00:36 asciilifeform 'useful idiots' in europe are the gift that will keep on giving for a century+.
00:36 asciilifeform of course, it was rather like bio warfare, nobody ever found a way to keep them out of ru proper
00:36 asciilifeform wind blew'em back in
00:37 decimation heh yeah it's true
00:37 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> wind blew'em back in << Ru shares the problem with US east coast
00:38 BingoBoingo Can't avoid shitting where it eats
00:39 decimation asciilifeform: also the germans did something similar
00:39 decimation after the fukoshima thing showed how the worst-case scenario wasn't particularly dangerous
00:40 decimation of course, it's always 'because reasons' - certainly it's not because in their heart of hearts they wish to destroy themselves
00:40 asciilifeform jp, if you recall, played with 'cancel the nuke plants' until they got tired of breathing diesel smoke and didn't feel like going back to the 17th c. quite yet
00:40 BingoBoingo decimation: I beg to differ https://i.imgur.com/f9Yyww8.jpg
00:40 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlMIVC )
00:41 BingoBoingo Problem is stupid nuclear plants that can't sustain cooling... Like my laptop
00:42 decimation sure they can. designs exist today that would self-quench under any disaster, without power
00:42 decimation fukoshima was a mediocere design in an idiotic location
00:42 decimation and operated by idiots
00:42 asciilifeform designs exist that fit in a cellar ('pellet system')
00:42 asciilifeform could cost what a truck costs
00:43 decimation yeah, free-floating uranium pellets
00:43 BingoBoingo decimation: Yes self quenching and sane designs exist, but BUILT where?
00:43 asciilifeform 'But It Would Be Wrong!' (tm) (r) (uncle al)
00:43 decimation BingoBoingo: of course, nobody builds new designs because reasons
00:43 decimation even though they have turned out to be extremely profitable
00:44 BingoBoingo Calloway County Missouri has comparatively new reactor. Shut down and restarted because stupid all around. Even in middle of nowhere.
00:44 decimation even 40 miles from ascii is a nuke plant that has been relicensed for another 20 years as I recall
00:44 BingoBoingo <decimation> even though they have turned out to be extremely profitable << Fiat arbitrarity prevents this
00:44 BingoBoingo Gotta preserve the existing ones by population centers
00:45 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: usg is specifically opposed to inexpensive, simple, reliable fission
00:45 decimation ^
00:45 asciilifeform the costly, finicky, occasionally problematic kind - they're fine with
00:45 decimation it's not hard to do the math and realize that a few hundred kg of U is way cheaper to supply in the long run than massive quantities of coal
00:45 BingoBoingo Eventually USG will fall and finally I can ssemble motorcarriage I like
00:46 asciilifeform (can you say 'petrodollar', kidz?)
00:46 decimation the coal lobby hates this idea, for one
00:46 decimation ^
00:46 decimation not just oil but also coal
00:46 decimation major political muscle there
00:46 asciilifeform it isn't even about selling coal
00:46 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> (can you say 'petrodollar', kidz?) << Shame when everythig is forced to move to corn plastics
00:46 decimation plus, coal plant shits more radiation everywhere in the form of C14
00:47 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> it isn't even about selling coal << During my two years at Mizzou they installed a Wood Chip furnace at their power plant.
00:47 decimation asciilifeform: that's the 'bootleggers' to the 'baptists' - the enviro-nuts
00:47 asciilifeform usg doesn't like the idea of plebes with megawatt in their pocket, that's all
00:48 decimation asciilifeform: I was pondering this the other day with the supposed 'tax-free' retirment scheme called Roth
00:48 decimation you can gift your tax free account to your spouse when you die, but if your kids get it they must begin drawing down
00:48 asciilifeform afaik all such chumpatrons are approximately the same
00:48 asciilifeform 'jam tomorrow'
00:49 decimation yes but this particular feature is interesting: why would usg want to ensure that the children fail to gain 'independent wealth'
00:49 * BingoBoingo completely weaned from butane lighters nao
00:49 asciilifeform because that's for the aristo children
00:49 decimation of course, the answer is the same as your powerplant theory: usg-unapproved power centers must be strangled in the crib
00:50 decimation some pleb saving and endowing a fortune outside of usg's control is unthinkable
00:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44450 @ 0.00051664 = 22.9646 BTC [-]
00:51 decimation the mind boggles at the various little staffers dreaming of ways to ensure the survival of the present usg regime even long beyond their own retirements
00:52 asciilifeform there is no reason for them to have to think of it. it is baked into the machine
00:52 asciilifeform 'we do x because the 3-ring binder says: do x'
00:53 asciilifeform and it will read 'x', not 'y', because if it were 'y', and 'y' is, e.g., 'disinherit john brennan rothchild' someone might Have Problems
00:54 asciilifeform i.e. Accident4lly!11 nailgun himself to his pillow in bed, while in a single-car crash, of natural causes.
00:54 decimation asciilifeform: the amusing thing is that lord rothchild need not even make his position clear, it's already imagined and taken into account
00:54 BingoBoingo Naptha, fuel of the future
00:55 asciilifeform decimation: naturally. a 'lord' who has to actually dictate every 'x' is no lord, but 'floor boss'
00:56 decimation indeed once he has to show up and explain it the gig is up
00:56 asciilifeform 'the spartan speaks with his' nailgun.
00:57 BingoBoingo PREPARE FOR GLORY
01:01 BingoBoingo EARTH, WATER? You will find plenty down THERE!
01:03 decimation heh http://www.ap.org/content/press-release/2015/ap-makes-one-million-minutes-of-history-available-on-youtube < ap mistakenly puts lots of history online
01:03 assbot AP makes one million minutes of historical footage available on YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlOtCf )
01:03 mod6 ;;later tell jurov nevermind, i reformatted it a bit and resent, went through this time.
01:03 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:04 decimation for instance, this 1974 film showing street scenes in Rhodesia, where you can see how the black folks were being oppressed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GFRS5cN_hI
01:04 assbot RHODESIA FILM - NO SOUND - COLOUR - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlOAgZ )
01:09 * BingoBoingo wonders what it says of Anglo society that Dante is exalted while William Blake is mentioned only in horror tales.
01:10 asciilifeform wasn't there a link just earlier today re: dante banned
01:10 decimation lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByrCApckF60
01:10 assbot Prospecting for Uranium on Your Holiday? - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlOZAa )
01:10 BingoBoingo Yes, I dropped it.
01:11 BingoBoingo But when was Blake ever allowed
01:14 decimation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEw8g0obxEg < also amusing, rhodesian gentleman discovers bat guano deposits on his land, oppresses black folk into helping him dig it out
01:14 assbot STRIKING IT RICH - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlPfPK )
01:15 BingoBoingo 62249, Highland, Illinois
01:16 BingoBoingo sorry last msg for prison bitch
01:17 decimation BingoBoingo: surely prisoners have no internet
01:18 BingoBoingo Shhhh... I got dreamz
01:20 BingoBoingo Madness? THIS IS SPARTA (or about 30 miles away from Sparta, IL)
01:26 decimation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM3xRbFadwM < here's the british oppressing rhodesia with hydroelectricity
01:26 assbot KARIBA DAM REPORT - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OBspED )
01:34 pete_dushenski ;;later tell ben_vulpes merci !
01:34 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:36 pete_dushenski ;;later tell asciilifeform nice finds. yes, treblinka wasn't -only- rebellion, but 0.5% of jews killed in 'shoah' fought back in the way depicted in those films. not great.
01:36 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:36 pete_dushenski but if i say that 0.5% is too small, what's a better proportion ? double digits doesn't sound unreasonable.
01:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63700 @ 0.0005187 = 33.0412 BTC [+]
01:38 pete_dushenski ;;later tell bitstein toda raba !
01:38 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:38 pete_dushenski ;;later tell Adlai your transliteration broke my (online) translation skillz !
01:38 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:39 pete_dushenski ;;later tell kakobrekla myep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG703QSalhg
01:39 assbot The Dictator Boy or Abortion? - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IlRKBF )
01:39 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:42 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211303 << omggtfo 'Gherush 92' belongs in the 7th circle
01:42 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 02:09:47; BingoBoingo: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturenews/9140869/Dantes-Divine-Comedy-offensive-and-should-be-banned.html
01:44 BingoBoingo We really need to flatten the circles a bit
01:44 pete_dushenski it just so happens that i just finished alberto manguel's 'curiousity', which is in essence a long-winded essay about la commedia.
01:45 pete_dushenski can't say i'd really recommend manguel's book, it was a bit too much about him being old and his life and times living all over the world
01:45 pete_dushenski but at least the guy's well read, there's no denying that
01:46 BingoBoingo Ah
01:46 pete_dushenski the breadth and depth of his cross-references between la commedia and the entire western cannon is not to be downplayed
01:51 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/23/before-you-board-the-plane-to-italy-consider-this/ << updated.
01:51 assbot Before you board the plane to Italy, consider this. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1OBtZ9t )
01:52 pete_dushenski never hit publish right before going for a spot of exercise, all the little holes and parallels reveal themselves through physical motion !
01:52 pete_dushenski the parallel between italy and jamaica struck me this time round.
01:53 pete_dushenski "Italy is well on its way to answering the corollary of the question answered by Jamaica, namely “What would Africa look like if we gave it a whack-load of European infrastructure and walked away ?” and therefore answers the question “What would European infrastructure look like if we gave it a whack-load of Africans and walked away ?“"
01:53 pete_dushenski it's almost poetic.
01:54 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: The way you've been qntra'ing this month you jsut might beat me in word count. Try
01:55 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: who me ? dude, you're on an absolute tear !
01:55 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Yes you.
01:55 cazalla BingoBoingo is the eternal qntra salesman
01:55 pete_dushenski i dun think the rest of us combined will beat bb
01:56 BingoBoingo If qntra is a serious endeavour, one month someone with their name not on the contract will get high wordcount score.
01:56 pete_dushenski cazalla: the easiest sell is when you believe in the product.
01:56 BingoBoingo ^truth
01:56 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: You in the last day or so been following my legal odessy?
01:57 pete_dushenski just that you had court today ?
01:58 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: No what happened today. What happened earlier this week. When alleged "victim" of thing allgeded to be "crime" got a pussy pass on a felony. Because Dallas Cook fake libertarian only runs to the police for every problem he has.
01:59 BingoBoingo http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article28249051.html
01:59 assbot Prosecutor declines to issue charges against Belleville city clerk | Belleville News-Democrat ... ( http://bit.ly/1g689ja )
02:00 BingoBoingo Mr. White Trash I am alleged to have disordere, while the elected clerk of the village of Belleville did indeed get a pass on maliciously committing a politically motivated felony on one of his elderly constituents.
02:01 pete_dushenski so you're not in the plumbook, and this is news ?
02:01 pete_dushenski what, like u.s. law treats all men as equal ?
02:02 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211066 <<
02:02 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 00:11:06; mircea_popescu: and most importantly, where is the fraud, racketeering and criminal organisation/conspiuracy indictment for the us marshall in question ?
02:02 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Nah my misdemeanor was continued because judge roll over.
02:03 BingoBoingo And I lack knowledge of whether misdemeanor alleged of me was by me or not. By city clerk gets to avoid prosecution for felony direction of police violence?
02:03 BingoBoingo What is plumbook?
02:04 pete_dushenski !s plumbook
02:04 assbot 4 results for 'plumbook' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=plumbook
02:05 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204584
02:05 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 14:52:06; asciilifeform: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomenklatura << for utter n00bz
02:05 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: If you want to write a piece on the wickedness in Belleville... I'd have to let cazalla approve or deny that
02:06 pete_dushenski mebbe in the morning, depending what time i crawl outta bed.
02:07 pete_dushenski can't say i'm super drawn to the belleville scandal though, not my usual cup of qntratea
02:07 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: You have all the time in the world. God only knows the prosecution case has had the same.
02:08 BingoBoingo If nothing else pete_dushenski Maybe you will find a way to shit on 'Murica from your safe space in the hat
02:08 pete_dushenski lolk
02:09 BingoBoingo Also 4 grams of blackpowder would let you throw a small enough rock from Belleville to Ferguson
02:09 pete_dushenski skipping through my last few qntra articles, seems like 'cybercrime' and fiat finance are my go-tos. who knew ?
02:09 BingoBoingo Or as us in the Country like to call Belleville, East-East-St Louis
02:09 BingoBoingo I know right?
02:10 BingoBoingo Literally anything that's shitty is shitty because of fiat
02:11 pete_dushenski literally eh ? how about ugly chicks ? aren't they ugly regardless of fiat ? does fiat make them even more ghastly to behold ?
02:11 pete_dushenski if so, how ?
02:12 BingoBoingo Ugly chicks are ugly because of transcendant aesthetics.
02:13 BingoBoingo There are truths that are rooted beyond x and y pulling their cocks
02:14 BingoBoingo !s jennifer
02:14 assbot 23 results for 'jennifer' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=jennifer
02:15 BingoBoingo Jennifer Richmond is a sexy girl is prison because the dry old she dinosaur on her case couldn't accept prostitution without victimization
02:18 pete_dushenski so fiat teaches her victimisation, which makes her more unattractive ?
02:18 pete_dushenski not a bad theory.
02:18 BingoBoingo Whether it is biological drive or aethetics that transcend mundane understanding, Frau Richmond has an entirely aesthetic appeal https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/24/9f8d659940e440e5724e2ac8f1226714.jpg lacks
02:18 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1VDHEBO )
02:18 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Fiat teaches the negress with butts on both sides is her equal. That is the problem.
02:21 pete_dushenski $amzn up 17% after-hours on an announcement of... profit !
02:21 pete_dushenski losses were expected, +$0.19 per share posted.
02:22 BingoBoingo Dat timing
02:23 pete_dushenski and speaking of their successful hosting services...
02:23 pete_dushenski https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2178548/oig-report.pdf
02:23 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1VDIzSH )
02:23 BingoBoingo If nothing else though that movement has to suggest Dollars are going to balloon
02:24 pete_dushenski 'fiscal year 2014 audit of treasury's compliance with the federal information security management act for its intelligence systems'
02:25 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: and that they're looking for even the faintest pulse as a SIGN OF LIFE
02:25 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: To be fair apparently AWS revenue is up after a steep drop last year?
02:26 pete_dushenski "The report, prepared in September 2014, gave no indication the foreign intelligence network had been hacked. But auditors found up to 29 percent of Treasury's devices connected to the intelligence network did not meet federal cybersecurity standards." << i can't imagine these standards include 'avoid winblows'
02:27 BingoBoingo No way they could
02:27 pete_dushenski so what good are they you ask ? the theatre of security, my boy.
02:27 BingoBoingo Personally I hope that OpenBSD treats MicroShaft with the same Courtesy they did MP after the check clears
02:27 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: probably not. which is why its lulzy
02:28 * BingoBoingo wonders when ascii or other will perfect the peel money away from drunk Bingo Bot
02:30 pete_dushenski "Following the blueprint of Fiat's marriage with Chrysler and a New York listing of the merged entity last year, FCA will create a Dutch-registered holding company for Ferrari and list its shares on Wall Street, according to the filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission." << inb4 ferraris are slapped with 'made in united states of africa' plaques
02:30 pete_dushenski make that stickers.
02:32 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: peel money ?
02:32 pete_dushenski like for strippers ?
02:33 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Yeah. Me+Money+StripClub is the one of the fastest reallocation of resources capitalism has blessed us with
02:33 BingoBoingo But asciilifeform Pointed out that a sufficient bot might be able to accomplish that feat.
02:34 pete_dushenski or naphex's site
02:34 BingoBoingo 'Murican ingenuity https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/24/96b5bd611fafc28d99dd02643bd26573.jpg
02:34 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1VDKeYi )
02:34 pete_dushenski xotika or what was it.
02:34 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Nah, takes a special kinda girl to peel my money away on a cam
02:35 davout ohai all
02:35 thestringpuller pete_dushenski is up late
02:35 BingoBoingo Hai davout
02:35 pete_dushenski bonjour !
02:35 pete_dushenski thestringpuller: 12:30am ain't that bad...
02:37 * BingoBoingo hopes pete_dushenski takes the Belleville beat because that would be so many lulz. East-east St Louis fancies itself the Toronto of the Middle West...
02:38 BingoBoingo Why actual Toronto is not sufficiently Middle or Western I dunno
02:39 pete_dushenski we call toronto 'eastern canada' but they call themselves 'central'
02:39 thestringpuller lol Missouri
02:39 thestringpuller so much farm land
02:39 pete_dushenski to ontarionians, 'eastern canada' is nubbins`-land
02:39 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Nah, east side of the river this time
02:40 pete_dushenski and from here, twodogs might as well be in europe. it's another world.
02:40 BingoBoingo l ol
02:40 thestringpuller i thought nubbins` lived in trailer park boys land...
02:40 thestringpuller nova scotia?
02:41 BingoBoingo I may be in the minority anywhere else, but... Ant Man better than Avengers 2. Heist Movie with occasional distracting external references.
02:42 thestringpuller ^^^ totally with you on that
02:42 thestringpuller Also lots of references to Hank Pym beating his wife Wasp.
02:42 BingoBoingo lol
02:43 thestringpuller they bastardized Darren Cross, but his comic story line would have been too dark for kids.
02:43 * BingoBoingo also thought Edward Norton Hulk, or Fight Club Electric Boogaloo was best Phase 1 Marvel flick
02:44 thestringpuller Better than Eric Bana's Hulk.
02:46 pete_dushenski "Toronto taxi drivers are launching a class-action lawsuit against ride-sharing company Uber Technologies Inc [UBER.UL], seeking more than C$400 million ($307.27 million) in damages and an injunction to stop it operating in the Canadian province of Ontario." << speaking of those enlightened folk in toronto.
02:47 pete_dushenski and yes, you'll also note that cad has been pummelled into the ground in the last 12 months.
02:47 pete_dushenski was at or near parity for better part of a decade.
02:53 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: I remember when CAD passed USD
03:00 cazalla BingoBoingo, ya get all duke nukem' up in the club.. "shake it baby"
03:01 BingoBoingo cazalla: It's all about T-Swift now. Shake it off
03:06 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211621 <<< ya know i couldn't do that much these days
03:06 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 04:16:11; BingoBoingo: Eh, only 600 ml of vodka in tonight so far. Got the sads over Judge rotation.
03:08 cazalla drinking is sorta like weight training.. miss a couple weeks and you lose all those gains
03:11 BingoBoingo It really is. My liver is Swoledamort
03:18 davout looks like -assets hasn't changed that much during my absence :D
03:23 BingoBoingo Why would it?
03:26 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211834 figured it for a bad photoshop at first
03:26 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 06:34:27; BingoBoingo: 'Murican ingenuity https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/24/96b5bd611fafc28d99dd02643bd26573.jpg
03:26 BingoBoingo cazalla: No, real
03:29 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211860 <<< his old stuff, and by that i mean his old stuff on australian tv before he was in movies is preddy gud for a laugh, but ya sorta need to grasp the context which is difficult for americans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpS31FJO8_o
03:29 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 06:44:49; thestringpuller: Better than Eric Bana's Hulk.
03:29 assbot Eric Bana - Olympic Training Tips with Peter - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JirLvr )
03:33 BingoBoingo Another problem with Avengers 2, Andy Serkis plays a man and not a CGI monster
03:33 cazalla actually, that isn't even funny, seemed to be back in the 90s though
03:35 BingoBoingo yeah
03:37 BingoBoingo Still WTF director makes James Spader the CGI monster and Andy Serkis th human
03:41 cazalla dunno why ya bother BingoBoingo, the shit they put out isn't even worth pirating these days, you'd have to pay me to watch
03:42 BingoBoingo One has to catalogue the kicks
03:43 BingoBoingo I mean occasionally there is a decent action scene
03:43 BingoBoingo Like Iron Man vs. Tyler Durden
03:44 cazalla marvel, DC etc etc never big here and i've never watched any of these types of movies, saw an old x-men from maybe 10-15 years ago nfi which one though
03:45 BingoBoingo Oh, so you are just a Homer who likes Hugh Jackman for being an Aussie
03:45 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211872 <<< because such is life
03:45 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 07:23:14; BingoBoingo: Why would it?
03:45 cazalla nah, can't say i like him as an actor
03:46 BingoBoingo davout HRE and ruler of all the Frogophones, of course we would pause the world for you
03:46 davout BingoBoingo: :3
03:46 davout what's HRE ?
03:46 cazalla one of my fav australian movies is Sirens on account.. titties when like 13
03:47 BingoBoingo davout: Holy Roman, or I guess more recently Ramadan, Emperor. You know like Chuckles I
03:48 cazalla http://c-celebs.com/celebs/ElleMacPherson-20/hank-sirens-elle-macpherson-kate-fischer-0003.jpg imagine this shit on vhs.. kids today with their 4k streaming porn don't know what they missed
03:48 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JisTPL )
03:51 BingoBoingo cazalla: If you have to watch a marvel movie though, at least Ant man is a better heist movie than new oceans 11. Just no where near as good as Con Air
03:52 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/07/phuctor-factors-100th-rsa-modulus/#comment-33817
03:52 assbot Phuctor Factors 100th RSA Modulus | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1JCaoSf )
03:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 158250 @ 0.00051183 = 80.9971 BTC [-] {2}
03:53 cazalla funny you mention con-air.. i saw that one in cinema and still remember asking myself why they would send a man to jail for defending his wife and kid
03:53 cazalla "that doesn't make sense"
03:55 BingoBoingo cazalla: Because pussy pass 'Murica
03:55 BingoBoingo Saved his family from a strong black woman
03:57 BingoBoingo "Put the bunny, back in the box..." -Cameron Poe
03:58 BingoBoingo "Why couldn't you put the bunny back in the box?" -Cameron Poe
04:00 BingoBoingo Oh SHIT, who got quoted http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-21537-post-1069806.html#pid1069806
04:00 assbot The Bitcoin thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1JitGQV )
04:02 cazalla rooshv is a bit of a numbnuts
04:02 BingoBoingo He is, but still the lawgz going viral?
04:05 BingoBoingo !up Duffer1
04:05 BingoBoingo !up Duffer_
04:09 cazalla can't imagine doing this fast seduction/ladder theory/red pill/whatever iteration it is up to shit in the age of tindere
04:10 cazalla back in my day ya had to get the girl's number somehow, was none of this app matching shit
04:10 BingoBoingo If you can think yourself black, you can be black
04:11 cazalla my thinking was always.. why go for the 9's when you are assured to take home a 5-7
04:13 BingoBoingo Sport
04:14 cazalla 21 year old pussy slaying cazalla http://i.imgur.com/f8EHun7.png
04:14 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JiuKUJ )
04:14 cazalla 33 year old cazalla dont slay shit lol
04:16 BingoBoingo cazalla: You just as MP links suggest, imagine you are the BBC you want to be.
04:16 cazalla who's got the time or energy
04:17 BingoBoingo It's a sport. Like baseball ro waterboarding.
04:23 cazalla too much sambuca
04:23 cazalla thinking wtf is ro (romanian) waterboarding
04:23 BingoBoingo Sorry, "or"
04:25 cazalla anyway who wants to chase girls in their 30s
04:25 cazalla that is for teens and guys in their 20s because they have fuck all to offer
04:25 cazalla if i were to get back in that game, easier just to wave some money and get to it
04:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00051089 = 12.8744 BTC [-]
04:27 cazalla maybe i need some joe rogan supplementation or something
04:27 BingoBoingo I still got a few months before I hit 30
04:28 cazalla i think it is the having kids that makes you all soft tbh
04:28 BingoBoingo lol
04:28 cazalla trying to make another atm and i just.. i can't even lol
04:29 cazalla gotta get back on the old nag tmw for another go
04:30 cazalla makes me all soft i mean not you all, maybe freudian slip there lol
04:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46593 @ 0.00051058 = 23.7895 BTC [-] {2}
04:31 BingoBoingo lol
04:33 cazalla soft is having 1/4 of a 700ml bottle of sambuca and thinking of going to bed at 7pm heh
04:40 BingoBoingo lol
04:40 BingoBoingo 3:40 am here
04:42 cazalla meh i didn't get much sleep last night, son had 18 month mmrv yesterday and has been moody since
04:43 * BingoBoingo slept
04:43 * BingoBoingo saw hearing continued
04:43 cazalla OBJECTION!
04:44 cazalla did ya get all pheonix wright up in there?
04:44 cazalla live footage from the BingoBoingo hearing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1SB12K8LHQ
04:44 assbot Objection! Anime Style! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1LAjdSz )
04:45 BingoBoingo cazalla: If this even goes to trial. I will magic the $300 fiat into existence for a jury.
04:45 BingoBoingo It's fiat. Say it exists and it does.
04:47 BingoBoingo !up SuchWow
04:48 cazalla SuchWow, how about that dogecoin eh
04:48 BingoBoingo Look, I am a serious bus, Ness.
04:49 SuchWow cazalla: what does this chan have to do with dogecoin?
04:49 cazalla speaking of movies again, looking forward to spectre even if every after goldeneye sucks shit
04:49 cazalla SuchWow, show me on the doge dolly where palmer touched you
04:51 BingoBoingo cazalla: Canon Casino Royal not that bad, has TV Hannibal
04:51 cazalla i always liked 007 movies because he was cool, had the girls and now in spectre.. he has a 50 year old bond girl and an iphone.. i pretty much have this.. so much for suspending disbelief
04:51 BingoBoingo lol
04:51 cazalla now everyone can be james bond!
04:52 BingoBoingo !b 7
04:52 assbot Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/14B013C.txt )
04:53 cazalla don't get me wrong, monica bellucci is still very fuckable with all that make up on but she is no bond girl
04:53 cazalla which means bond is no bond :\
04:54 BingoBoingo Every now and then a true secret agent has to raid Queen Victoria's secret
04:54 cazalla the next bond will prob be gay and black and there will be bond boys instead of girls
04:56 BingoBoingo In that case I will just live and let die.
04:56 cazalla what, do they expect BingoBoingo just to talk?
04:58 BingoBoingo The amorphous "they" probably expects BingoBoingo to just quit and off himself. Shame they don't appreciate our up and coming tech journalism start-up.
05:00 cazalla fwiw i plead guilty a couple times, but much younger and believe it or not, even stupidier
05:00 BingoBoingo I don't plea because it is more expensive for the true enemy
05:01 cazalla but then local magistrates here have a history of letting boys be boys.. just having a bit of fun type of shit
05:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142641 @ 0.00051908 = 74.0421 BTC [+] {3}
05:02 BingoBoingo Local magistrates here have a history of trying asbestos cases for the entire rest of USia, fuck them.
05:03 cazalla BingoBoingo, check it out, uber is coming to my old local http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/3232643/free-ice-cream-for-uber-followers-in-gong/?cs=300
05:03 assbot Free ice-cream for Uber followers in Gong | Illawarra Mercury ... ( http://bit.ly/1Iifx0W )
05:03 cazalla "but only for a day."
05:03 BingoBoingo Why is Crocodile Dundee land is there a place named "Gong"
05:04 cazalla see that light house, car park near it, pashed a few girls there in my time
05:04 cazalla and a bit more but then that'd be braggin'
05:04 BingoBoingo lol
05:04 cazalla the 'gong is yobbo for Wollongong
05:05 BingoBoingo Ah
05:05 cazalla aboriginal for no jobs since 1970
05:05 BingoBoingo !b 1
05:05 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3SKEMTH.txt )
05:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41824 @ 0.0005299 = 22.1625 BTC [+] {2}
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06:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75503 @ 0.00053198 = 40.1661 BTC [+] {3}
06:21 shinohai BingoBoingo: I need a qntrafier for btc articles from places like this: http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/23/bitcoins-war-could-threaten-its-survival.html
06:21 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RX7ilF )
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07:19 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211640 << really, there's no good reason for france to be anything else.
07:19 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 04:33:00; asciilifeform: ^ entirely realistic. france --> morocco.
07:26 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211824 << microsoft doesn't pay with actual money. their check never clears.
07:26 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 06:27:43; BingoBoingo: Personally I hope that OpenBSD treats MicroShaft with the same Courtesy they did MP after the check clears
07:26 mircea_popescu openbsd decided it much prefers this, because the way to turn everything to shit is to surround everyone doing anything useful with a bunch of operational idiots.
07:27 mircea_popescu this is the core and the root of the problem. and the fact that intelligent people are trained not to step on faces compounds it exponentially.
07:27 chetty actual workers should be hermits
07:30 mircea_popescu either that or should learn to spit on "helpful" this and thats.
07:33 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211915 << me either, but like "Avengers" - someone somewhere will be clinging on to anything.
07:33 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 08:09:42; cazalla: can't imagine doing this fast seduction/ladder theory/red pill/whatever iteration it is up to shit in the age of tindere
07:34 mircea_popescu what's stars wars at , episode 500 ? the bold and the beautiful still running am i rite ?
07:35 shinohai There is very, very little in way of anything entertaining on television here. The Bold and te Beautiful might actually be more entertaining than another rality show.
07:35 shinohai *reality
07:36 * shinohai is watching "Metastasis" right now though, and it is hilarious.
07:36 * mircea_popescu never really had the patience.
07:37 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211920 << in which we learn cazalla looks just like a bodyguard i used to have. one of the better too.
07:37 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 08:14:11; cazalla: 21 year old pussy slaying cazalla http://i.imgur.com/f8EHun7.png
07:37 shinohai I don't own a real television. Usually just watch everything on a PC
07:38 mircea_popescu so watch italian tv
07:38 mircea_popescu basically a buncha whores on a set talking all day.
07:39 shinohai I watch Univision some, heck I wonder if I have any Italian language channels.
07:40 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esa2ushJEG0
07:40 assbot Buongiorno Benessere Rossitalia Rai Uno 02.03.2014 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1VEEHRr )
07:41 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211969 << didn't know you swung that way ? was it your exposure to b-a ?
07:41 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 08:54:53; cazalla: the next bond will prob be gay and black and there will be bond boys instead of girls
07:43 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211993 >>< lmao they're re-doing a stupid piece we lolled at here a few days ago, which was re-doing for the mouthbreathers stuff that has nothing to do with what happened weeks ago because of what was said here months ago ?
07:43 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 10:21:22; shinohai: BingoBoingo: I need a qntrafier for btc articles from places like this: http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/23/bitcoins-war-could-threaten-its-survival.html
07:43 mircea_popescu what are you trying to do, cause a cycle ?
07:43 shinohai Hopefully cause an event that leads to a collapse of shitty American media.
07:44 mircea_popescu at least they scrubbed my name out of it, "constituency of chinese mienrs" nao
07:45 mircea_popescu i guess i get the advantage of surprise the next time around too. pretty cool.
07:45 mircea_popescu in other news, three whores one bitch : http://41.media.tumblr.com/2b54d19ba448d3287e568620afaf3415/tumblr_mz3pvmAYBV1rxa0moo1_1280.jpg
07:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1VEFphw )
07:46 shinohai O.o
07:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46697 @ 0.00053435 = 24.9525 BTC [-]
08:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00053027 = 2.5453 BTC [-]
08:14 mircea_popescu http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/ < BingoBoingo funkenstein_ and who else wanted it ? pfd ?
08:14 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1VEKczm )
08:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113274 @ 0.00054404 = 61.6256 BTC [+] {5}
08:19 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Matthias_Schmidt ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B3A2E526E50140EE75C270884290DB8270F202BA7E2382F7F20D735D62E0104E#CB5B4CC7349D53137B86679F668640AC8692B8D4B44C2F782602460B0B870C06>
08:19 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Andreas Heimann ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C62FFD2679BE0909B2C7D7FB2356995AF9650D3E280600D31534FDB9A7F170A3#A325D14C8F2FC51D65A4157508CD1E626380D8E9F340A33F11BD25BF1936DCCF>
08:20 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=3 (Joe Schmuckley; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/976AAB6D6B7F325843FF0E3653C219B9D6738C5F016F72973E311181614ECAF5#928C2E1186A73348A919DFD04535B989BDD9497C80AE2DC96788955BFB99ECC9>
08:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo et al: phuctor is back
08:20 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=641 (Thomas Hofmann ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9AD29DC660DB7496B01D608486E6062A27E35F35C32CFD3E2F35FC1409374187#5C36ECF7F72E7DF2F75AB382EDB5C4F3F55890F8AAC2E9A7BF79BCCCF7E24B07>
08:20 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Thomas Hofmann ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9AD29DC660DB7496B01D608486E6062A27E35F35C32CFD3E2F35FC1409374187#E5D971BED516F3DAD920A90EF1FC17998F15DC52F179A95E45EA559544E77A4D>
08:20 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Julia Reda ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B412BD191BF10DAB6AAB6A8779A3F08D31AC5E3FB748DDBFB1DB18CDF05B6BEF#6269187B70BE0F1B4094A0DCA78923F50E78C97F8B3999BAB3DE5974003B393F>
08:20 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Sven Arnold ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DC9D7BC1ADFF9D074C29DA18CB7224920FDAABD2348152DE296A6293FF3C1914#1A76F4EB3DC6C31C58912BB58D3C9DCDC00B82C9614792BADBFB0CE75DE943B3>
08:20 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (PGP Corporation Update Signing Key; PGP Corporation Update Signing Key ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/0D9057DA7AEE12C725AA9408D47F4FFC3769BEF7891A0F9C0A9F38420C5C08AB#F79436B629322C70C523BAA5BE0D3D4DDA011578F84122B8CA3ABD15C52A9567>
08:20 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=459561500779 (Marco Hien ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A627338D751C449EA54C0BA518ABCB2E215D939534F7D149C246EA9EA0D36279#3410BF059FEC317A7C927FDFD2A73249AED3B85E3AB4C4DE47EF4A23A091D5CA>
08:20 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (Marco Hien ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A627338D751C449EA54C0BA518ABCB2E215D939534F7D149C246EA9EA0D36279#2A71D1921B057ACB9C5258F5C984DF1048D6D0C9FE3FB03696525545C8A0BF98>
08:20 mircea_popescu o.I
08:20 asciilifeform ;;later tell lobbes your bot misbehaves
08:20 gribble The operation succeeded.
08:20 mircea_popescu these aren't new are they ?
08:20 asciilifeform no
08:20 asciilifeform just the last N
08:20 mircea_popescu aok
08:21 mircea_popescu well im off for nao
08:21 * asciilifeform same. uranium mines
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09:46 funkenstein_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRgRz3nSG7o <-- somehow i missed this one which came out in year 0
09:46 assbot U.S. Government Stages Fake Coup To Wipe Out National Debt - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1frM2m9 )
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10:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00052947 = 13.3426 BTC [-]
10:03 punkman http://profit.ndtv.com/news/commodities/article-gold-platinum-prices-fall-to-lowest-in-over-5-years-783150
10:03 assbot Global Prices of Gold, Platinum Fall to Lowest in Over 5 Years - NDTVProfit.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1CZc0bu )
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10:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29415 @ 0.00052498 = 15.4423 BTC [-]
10:39 mod6 been stuck on block: 366662 for ~12 hours (since I restarted this patched up through verifyall gentoo build lastnight)
10:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18635 @ 0.00053112 = 9.8974 BTC [+]
10:46 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
10:46 ascii_field mod6: -addnode from dulap ?
10:46 mod6 -connect
10:46 mod6 yeah dulap
10:47 ascii_field paste log ?
10:47 mod6 sure. give me a bit here...
10:48 ascii_field dulap is 100% up to date chainwise
10:48 ascii_field and has been since the 10th
10:48 ascii_field currently 58 peers.
10:59 mod6 http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/debug-log-snip-20150724.txt
10:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ImEz3h )
10:59 mod6 i could perhaps just try to restart it, but just wanted to let you know first before I shut it off or do anything else.
10:59 mod6 restart, etc.
11:01 ascii_field no obvious clues in the log
11:02 ascii_field i'm beginning to suspect network shenanigans
11:02 ascii_field at any rate, we desperately need a multi-node version of '-connect'
11:03 ascii_field (~NOT~ the same as '-addnode')
11:04 kakobrekla but you can 'connect' to multiple nodes?
11:05 nubbins` http://imgur.com/a/WkysG#0
11:05 assbot My Trezor Arrived - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1ImFnVK )
11:05 nubbins` "My Trezor finally arrived (but with scratches and rusted/not working cable)... I am happy anyway! I want to share my happiness :-)"
11:05 nubbins` my actual sides.
11:06 nubbins` guy orders device maybe a year+ ago. it finally shows up, scratched to shit, the usb cable is RUSTY and non-operational
11:06 ascii_field for the love of god, montrezor !!!
11:06 ascii_field (tm) (r)
11:06 nubbins` but he's happy anyway.
11:06 nubbins` he's so happy he needs to SHARE his happiness
11:06 nubbins` at paying money last year for a rusty scratched-up piece of shit.
11:07 kakobrekla and calls it 'valut'
11:07 mod6 <+ascii_field> at any rate, we desperately need a multi-node version of '-connect' << this would be great!
11:07 nubbins` heh
11:07 nubbins` now he can finally plug a foreign usb HID device into point-of-sale terminals
11:07 nubbins` or something.
11:07 ascii_field kakobrekla points out that -connect does take multiples
11:07 nubbins` (????)
11:08 ascii_field http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/net.cpp#1263
11:08 assbot Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/net.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1ImFLDU )
11:08 mod6 i'm wondering if i shouldn't just: A: 1) shutdown bitcoind, 2) restart bitcoind. If no further blocks are pulled, B: 1) shutdown bitcoind, 2) update time, 3) restart bitcoind
11:08 ascii_field mod6: it wasn't your clock
11:08 ascii_field that would show up in the log
11:08 ascii_field instead, it is as if block were never sent.
11:09 mod6 ah right, there's a message about that.
11:09 mod6 forgot.
11:10 mod6 <+ascii_field> http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/net.cpp#1263 << Ah! so just -connect=dulap -connect=other
11:10 mod6 ?
11:10 * mod6 tries
11:10 kakobrekla i list them in the conf
11:12 mod6 ah ok
11:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [BTR] 5000 @ 0.00111 = 5.55 BTC
11:14 nubbins` i think it would be -connect=a -connect=b etc
11:17 mod6 !up ascii_field
11:24 mod6 ok restarting & connecting to dulap and incitatus
11:26 mod6 ok pulling blocks past 366662
11:29 funkenstein_ in numerology lulz news, current 42 coin supply: 41.96. Should pass 42 today.
11:30 * ascii_field can only dream of such rich
11:31 punkman speaking of which, 0.5.3 doesn't have the 21 million limit fix
11:31 ascii_field punkman: which fix is that
11:40 punkman iirc phoundation had a bug that'd let people mine past 21 million
11:41 mod6 are you talking about the subsidy overflow?
11:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.0005275 = 11.2358 BTC [-]
11:44 punkman mod6, dunno, can't find it in logs or google
11:44 mod6 this patch was submitted: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2014-October/000004.html but it is /already/ applied in v0.5.3 base, we never applied this patch. Here's the spot: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#0665
11:44 assbot [BTC-dev] backpatch ... ( http://bit.ly/1KoxDlz )
11:44 assbot Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/main.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1KoxDlN )
11:47 mod6 I made brief mention of dignork's patch in the SoBA from December: http://thebitcoin.founation/ml/btc-dev/2014-December/000017.html
11:47 mod6 !up ascii_field
11:57 mats http://www.wsj.com/articles/anthem-agrees-to-buy-cigna-for-48-billion-1437732331
11:57 assbot Anthem Agrees to Buy Cigna for $48.4 Billion - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1KozlDq )
12:00 mod6 bah: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2014-December/000017.html
12:00 assbot [BTC-dev] The Bitcoin Foundation: STATE OF BITCOIN ADDRESS ... ( http://bit.ly/1KozLK7 )
12:00 mod6 one of these days, im gonna have to stop typing URLs. or start typing better! lol
12:02 punkman mod6, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/3813
12:02 assbot Fix for GetBlockValue() after block 13,440,000 by ditto-b · Pull Request #3813 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1CZll3a )
12:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58900 @ 0.00053061 = 31.2529 BTC [+] {3}
12:04 punkman slightly different issue there
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12:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52250 @ 0.00052204 = 27.2766 BTC [-] {2}
12:20 mod6 so yeah, that looks slightly different punkman
12:20 mod6 thanks for checking that out.
12:20 mod6 i'd think this is what we'd need to do there: http://dpaste.com/2H8CNF0.txt
12:20 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KoCof9 )
12:20 mod6 any thoughts?
12:24 * funkenstein_ is wondering the utility of changing code now on an issue >100 years away
12:24 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
12:25 ascii_field funkenstein_: years can pass quickly when usg diddles ntp
12:25 ascii_field 'leap century' !
12:25 funkenstein_ lol :D
12:25 mats http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/24/palantir_raises_450m_in_latest_fundraising_round
12:25 assbot Palantir raises $450m in latest fund-raising round • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1CZn1tn )
12:25 ascii_field ^ possibly biggest direct nsa front after 'google'
12:26 mats and Apple
12:26 ascii_field apple sells toys
12:26 ascii_field palantir sells gasenwagens.
12:28 ascii_field i mean, ferfuxxake, look what they named themselves for
12:28 mats Apple has the same SIGINT model as Google: vacuum all the data.
12:30 punkman "Leap Centure" would be a good title for a sci-fi story
12:30 punkman *century
12:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45800 @ 0.00054194 = 24.8209 BTC [+]
12:41 funkenstein_ The Palantíri were made by the Ñoldor in Eldamar, possibly by Fëanor himself during his time in Aman during the Elder Days in the Time of the Trees, and then given by the Elves to the Númenóreans, who kept them as heirlooms until the Fall of Númenor during the late Second Age; seven of these stones were rescued and brought to Middle-earth by Elendil and his sons and set in well-guarded towers throughout the Realms in
12:41 funkenstein_ Exile.
12:42 funkenstein_ ;;ud palantir
12:42 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Palantir | Had a Palantir incident last night and I'm second guessing whether it was a good idea..." Person 2: "Yeah man, sometimes you have to be careful about Palantir.
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13:02 mod6 !up ascii_field
13:02 ascii_field https://cryptome.org/2015/07/met-removal.htm << today's lulz
13:02 assbot Scotland Yard Requests Terrorist Content Removal ... ( http://bit.ly/1IrANHE )
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13:20 mod6 seems like i've been hung up on block 366774 for while now. i'm connected to those two nodes...
13:21 mod6 nothing strange in the logs...
13:26 ascii_field mod6: i see no useful clues in my logs, either.
13:26 mod6 ok.
13:26 mod6 thanks for checking
13:27 mod6 i'll let it go for a while. maybe it'll work itself out.
13:27 ascii_field both nodes are fully synced
13:35 mod6 !up ascii_field
13:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45000 @ 0.00054194 = 24.3873 BTC [+]
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14:04 mircea_popescu soooo.... what's new
14:06 mircea_popescu <mod6> i'll let it go for a while. maybe it'll work itself out. <<< pretty soon something like this is what ;;ud bitcoin will return.
14:06 mod6 !up ascii_field
14:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00054591 = 9.9356 BTC [+] {3}
14:07 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1212103 << powercycle machine, powercycle house, powercycle internet...
14:07 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 15:08:15; mod6: i'm wondering if i shouldn't just: A: 1) shutdown bitcoind, 2) restart bitcoind. If no further blocks are pulled, B: 1) shutdown bitcoind, 2) update time, 3) restart bitcoind
14:07 mod6 :D
14:08 mod6 powercycle galaxy, powercycle universe
14:08 mircea_popescu lol
14:09 mircea_popescu driver told me he heard they found a planet which might contain life 1400 light years away
14:09 mircea_popescu wanted to know wtf light years are.
14:09 mircea_popescu i told him nobody really knows, but light seconds are about ten times the circumference of the earth.
14:10 mod6 probably blew his whole concept of reality.
14:10 mircea_popescu guy was certainly amused
14:11 mircea_popescu ascii_field palantir 450mn, slashdot 20 mn, everything makes sense.
14:13 ascii_field printing press - full, had to be emptied
14:13 mircea_popescu so now owner of palantir goes out and buys himself fiddy million twenty dollar hookers, amirite.
14:14 mircea_popescu coincidentally every female us resident under 30.
14:14 ascii_field did beria buy ?
14:14 ascii_field why buy what you already own
14:14 mircea_popescu yaya.
14:14 mircea_popescu here's a fun factoid for you : just a shade under half of the us registered population (which means, about 60% of the actual population) pays no income tax.
14:15 mircea_popescu i only ever ran a small town, but i never went for this bs. everyone has to pay A LITTLE. because otherwise...
14:15 mircea_popescu because otherwise you don't own it.
14:15 mircea_popescu so ... no. they don't own their arse.
14:15 ascii_field aha
14:15 ascii_field hitler owns it
14:15 ascii_field as i said earlier.
14:15 mircea_popescu no such thing.
14:15 mircea_popescu that government is so fucking weak, greece is actually a less decrepit state.
14:16 mircea_popescu they don't collect, but they don't collect from like 1/3 not from like 3/5
14:22 punkman they might not collect income tax from more than 1/2 of the population, but they collect through other means
14:37 thestringpuller !up ascii_field
14:41 funkenstein_ heard in debate over tolls in se.asia: highway robbers used to stop cars at gunpoint. now they build tollbooths.
14:48 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1212027 << awful titty job
14:48 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 11:45:30; mircea_popescu: in other news, three whores one bitch : http://41.media.tumblr.com/2b54d19ba448d3287e568620afaf3415/tumblr_mz3pvmAYBV1rxa0moo1_1280.jpg
15:00 mircea_popescu i think that's kinda the point.
15:00 mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/bac1a81912c0f82f9061f17faf76aadc/tumblr_n4eujiYLaD1s38z3ao1_500.jpg << moar au naturel.
15:00 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1TXnmBn )
15:07 ascii_field https://github.com/programble/bare-metal-tetris
15:07 assbot programble/bare-metal-tetris · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1TXog0M )
15:08 mod6 !up ascii_field
15:08 shinohai Thanks a lot ascii_field, there goes my weekend
15:08 mod6 :]
15:09 mod6 wanna help test gentoo guide this weekend instead?
15:09 shinohai I actually planned on that mod6, I got my lappy but it has a bad psu so I got to sauce one and some btc.
15:10 shinohai Even tho I have never tried a gentoo install before :/
15:13 * shinohai found one of these with spare hdd and ram http://img03.olx.in/images_olxin/86072049_1_1000x700_compaq-hp-leptop-for-selling-3-year-old-one-hand-with-purchase-bill-gwalior.jpg
15:13 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IrYqjz )
15:22 mod6 well, no worries. gentoo is a pain but the guide makes it pretty easy - hopefully.
15:23 mod6 let me know when you get something you an spin up a vm on or actal hardware
15:23 mod6 if anyone else wants to test the gentoo guide, gimme a holler. would like to get it verified before the end of the month.
15:24 joecool mod6: yo
15:24 mod6 hey joecool
15:24 joecool mod6: what are you needing tested? i have a few machines on gentoo
15:25 mod6 ah nice, we wanted to ensure our gentoo amd64 nomulitlib guide worked well for at least 1 third party before we put it out there to the list.
15:26 mod6 basically, it's just going through this step by step: http://thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-nomultilib-guide.txt
15:26 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1TXqHAl )
15:26 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
15:26 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 288.51, vol: 13880.67877035 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 285.59, vol: 9896.62287 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 288.5, vol: 21492.87866909 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 281.0, vol: 3.0962656 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 286.58, vol: 18904.49820000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 288.0, vol: 42.58702134 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 289.9776, vol: 78.87280006 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
15:27 cazalla mod6, fwiw i used your gentoo install guide earlier in the week with no problems (couldn't get bitcoin up and running though, got stuck at auth.sh though with some error about REALPATH)
15:27 mod6 and perhaps as soon as we send up the patched test bundle, someone could try compiling the static R.I. on there.
15:27 mod6 cazalla: auto.sh?
15:28 cazalla mod6, 0x09 section of your guide
15:28 mod6 realpath should be on there by default iirc. but perhaps its not?
15:28 cazalla curl wasn't either
15:29 mod6 section 0x9? are you talking about the how-to-patch guide? it's a separate thing.
15:29 mod6 yeah, curl certainly isn't installed by default
15:30 mod6 can't recall exactly about realpath
15:30 cazalla yes i know but i would not be using the gentoo install guide unless i was moving on to the next guide, but i will have another go at some point
15:31 mod6 i still need to update the old how-to-patch guide etc. im actually pretty much complete on that... as soon as we give the green light on the test bundle i'll post my changes for that too.
15:41 mod6 !up ascii_field
15:43 cazalla BingoBoingo, looks like your man Hulk Hogan is under attack again http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/24/hulk-hogan-fired-wwe-racist-recordings
15:43 assbot Hulk Hogan fired by WWE after racist recordings emerge | US news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1KpFUZu )
15:43 ben_vulpes WHOA
15:44 ben_vulpes never thought id see the day
15:44 funkenstein_ hehe, bet he wishes he never said that stuff about the Iron Shiek
15:44 BingoBoingo !b 4
15:44 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/26DHS1Y.txt )
15:48 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjW9UXoKU2s
15:48 assbot To Be The Man - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1KpGhmF )
15:51 mircea_popescu lol the libtards could never forgive the gawker sinkage huh
15:51 mircea_popescu hulk hogan, old enough to have problems.
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16:14 jurov !t m f.mpif
16:14 assbot Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
16:14 BingoBoingo !mpif
16:14 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021519 B (Total: 427.54 B). Delta: 0.05 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000207 BTC [+]
16:14 jurov assbot on point, as always
16:17 jurov !t m x.eur
16:17 assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0035 / 0.00383295 / 0.00390807 (1953 shares, 7.49 BTC), 30D: 0.00136203 / 0.00396742 / 0.00469002 (8150 shares, 32.33 BTC)
16:29 scoopbot_revived Ministry of Games Begins Hosting Eulora Dependencies http://qntra.net/2015/07/ministry-of-games-begins-hosting-eulora-dependencies/
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16:44 joecool mod6: sorry for the delay, i've been running no multilib on my systems for over 5 years now
16:50 mod6 joecool: ok good deal. i think this guide is more for people who haven't gentoo'd yet.
16:51 mod6 we're gonna nead help testing soon though. gentoo is one of our targets
16:56 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:57 ascii_field mod6: since this is a static bin, the target - in the usual sense of the word - is a particular kernel abi, rather than gentoo, centos, etc
16:58 ascii_field i.e. if there is anyone here with a linux box on which any of the bins built thus far fail to run, something is very very wrong
16:59 ascii_field there are some possible corner cases:
16:59 ascii_field iirc we never set a -march= in our flags
16:59 ascii_field so the machine's local arch is used
17:00 ascii_field (incl. potentially vendor-specific instructions, e.g., weird intelisms)
17:02 ascii_field http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/lsb/check-your-app << anyone ever try it ?
17:02 assbot Check Your App | The Linux Foundation ... ( http://bit.ly/1emGAQX )
17:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74909 @ 0.00052672 = 39.4561 BTC [-] {2}
17:19 mats http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/atandt-directv-deal-set-to-close-after-clearance-from-fcc/2015/07/24/fe5c665c-3232-11e5-a879-213078d03dd3_story.html
17:19 assbot AT&T buys DirecTV, now biggest traditional TV provider in US - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1emJtRx )
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17:48 scoopbot_revived Welsh Silk Road 2.0 Dealer Receives Two Year Prison Sentence http://qntra.net/2015/07/welsh-silk-road-2-0-dealer-receives-two-year-prison-sentence/
17:54 cazalla once i've finished grabbing gwern's archive, will be interest to search it to include some screenshots in these types of articles
18:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28397 @ 0.00052027 = 14.7741 BTC [-]
18:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13053 @ 0.00052027 = 6.7911 BTC [-]
18:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15910 @ 0.00052155 = 8.2979 BTC [+]
18:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4891 @ 0.00052261 = 2.5561 BTC [+]
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18:30 scoopbot_revived Know The Enemy and Know Yourself - Part II http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/24/know-the-enemy-and-know-yourself-part-ii/
18:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86200 @ 0.00051766 = 44.6223 BTC [-] {2}
18:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48200 @ 0.00053382 = 25.7301 BTC [+] {2}
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19:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00053182 = 10.2375 BTC [-]
19:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00051709 = 6.929 BTC [-]
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19:51 hanbot general notice: anyone who has successfully built v0.5.3.1-RELEASE specifically on ubuntu please drop a line
19:52 mod6 ^^^
19:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37006 @ 0.00054123 = 20.0288 BTC [+] {3}
19:59 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1212208 << incidentally, this is not unlike the idea that a farmer is 'weak' because he is only able to milk his cows but not the aphids living on the grass
19:59 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 18:15:59; mircea_popescu: that government is so fucking weak, greece is actually a less decrepit state.
19:59 nubbins` aphid milk, nectar of the gods
19:59 asciilifeform usg has a firm grasp on milking the real feed base - the low-six-fig-usd artisan
19:59 nubbins` oh shit it's friday
20:00 asciilifeform not only in the sense of taxation proper, but tacit permission of wage suppression cartels, etc. - the whole ensemble
20:00 nubbins` wage suppression cartels!
20:01 asciilifeform nubbins`: see log
20:01 asciilifeform i'll also add that u.s. states are pretty good at milking the aphids - sales taxes of 5-10%
20:02 nubbins` sales tax here is 13%
20:02 nubbins` 14% Jan 1 2016
20:02 asciilifeform leave no aphid behind!
20:02 nubbins` heh.
20:02 nubbins` used to be 12+7
20:02 nubbins` which worked out, in practice, to ~20%
20:02 asciilifeform 12+7 ?
20:02 asciilifeform how's that work
20:02 asciilifeform national and local ?
20:03 nubbins` 12% provincial tax, 7% federal
20:03 asciilifeform ah
20:03 nubbins` now it's a "harmonized"
20:03 nubbins` some provinces have no provincial sales tax
20:03 nubbins` actually, just one, alberta
20:04 asciilifeform at any rate, ~THE~ american tax is: inflation. and it mainly affects folks with respectable, but firmly-fixed incomes
20:04 nubbins` just american? :P
20:04 asciilifeform whose net worth, if they happen to have one with a positive sign bit, consists of an unspent paycheque or three
20:04 asciilifeform in usd.
20:05 nubbins` but that describes almost every pensioner in north america :D
20:06 asciilifeform for non-u.s. folk: the most explosively astonishing phun phakt re: american taxation, is that an extortionate tax (mechanically, lack of 'tax credit', but same thing) is applied to folks who refuse to do the mortgage thing
20:06 asciilifeform (i.e. payments on mortgage are tax-deductible)
20:08 nubbins` all payments or just the interest portion?
20:09 asciilifeform interest, iirc
20:09 gernika I will be negotiating the CPI (joke that it is) into my next contract.
20:09 nubbins` i bet you have to pay capital gains tax when you sell it too
20:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99953 @ 0.000509 = 50.8761 BTC [-] {6}
20:10 Adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-07-2015#1211248 << why'd you take it at night, dummy
20:10 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 01:41:27; trinque: I took an adderall xr once and had an utterly terrible night, took notes on my entire calculus book
20:10 gernika Never understood the mortgage interest tax credit. Seems like houses will just ... cost more.
20:11 nubbins` houses will cost more, in general, until they don't.
20:11 nubbins` interesting tidbit, i live in downtown st. john's, which happens to mostly consist of wooden row houses
20:11 nubbins` went to renew my insurance
20:12 nubbins` underwriter dropped my whole neighbourhood and we had to find a new one :0
20:13 gernika why?
20:13 Adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-07-2015#1211744 << cf http://www.morfix.co.il/%D7%AA%D7%96%D7%9B%D7%94%20%D7%9C%D7%9E%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%95%D7%AA and https://translate.google.com/#iw/en/%D7%A2%D7%9E%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%AA
20:13 assbot Logged on 24-07-2015 05:38:59; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell Adlai your transliteration broke my (online) translation skillz !
20:13 assbot מילון מורפיקס Morfix Dictionary | תזכה למצוות באנגלית ... ( http://bit.ly/1DDzNsI )
20:13 assbot Google Translate ... ( http://bit.ly/1DDzP3S )
20:14 nubbins` gernika: because it's a tinderbox?
20:14 nubbins` https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/09/Cnsphoto0501010.jpg/467px-Cnsphoto0501010.jpg
20:14 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DDA7Yz )
20:15 nubbins` ^ st. john's, 1892
20:15 nubbins` all those stone pillars you see are chimneys from houses that burned down
20:15 decimation http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/21/obama-nominee-for-top-army-post-we-should-arm-military-recruiters/ "“You have a vast cadre of people in the military — doctors, lawyers, intelligence specialists, cryptologists, mechanics — whose jobs are important because they support combat troops, but it is not their job to point weapons at people and kill them,”
20:15 assbot Gen. Mark Milley: We Should Arm Military Recruiters | The Daily Caller ... ( http://bit.ly/1DDAhz6 )
20:15 decimation "retired Navy Capt. Charles Stimson told Stars and Stripes. “I know JAGs (military lawyers), nurses, typists, legal clerks in the military who have never fired a weapon in their lives.”"
20:15 gernika ah ok - close proximity + wood got it
20:16 nubbins` so even though the fire station is so close to my house that i can hear the calls come in
20:16 nubbins` it's almost impossible to get insurance
20:19 decimation asciilifeform: usg should drop all income and gains taxes and only tax consumption
20:19 nubbins` any home owners in here wanna share their annual insurance premium, as a percentage of the value of their home?
20:19 decimation on the theory that those with actual wealth should only volunteer to pay tax
20:21 decimation nubbins`: mine runs about 0.5%
20:21 nubbins` ah
20:21 nubbins` mine, just over 0.6
20:22 decimation you are in canada eh?
20:22 nubbins` yep
20:22 decimation maybe find an independent insurance agent
20:22 nubbins` got one 8)
20:22 decimation I had good luck with one here in the us
20:23 nubbins` none of the majors would even give me a quote
20:23 decimation why do they think you are so risky?
20:23 decimation poor construction?
20:23 nubbins` <+gernika> ah ok - close proximity + wood got it
20:23 decimation plenty of homes are made of wood in close proximity
20:24 decimation there must be another factor
20:24 nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/qk6mi7K.jpg
20:24 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDCVNb )
20:24 nubbins` that close proximity? :P
20:25 nubbins` most of the houses are 80-100 years old too
20:25 nubbins` plenty of hidden roofs, double walls, etc
20:26 nubbins` not at all unusual to chop a roof hole in a structure fire and find another completely rotting roof underneath
20:26 nubbins` i had my shingles redone 3 years ago and they found FOUR LAYERS of shingles underneath the top one. The supporting wood was dust
20:27 decimation I donno, seems pretty much like most older city blocks
20:27 nubbins` pulling 2x4s in half with bare hands, etc
20:27 decimation heh
20:27 nubbins` generally no firewalls between houses either
20:28 nubbins` not that a firewall would prevent the flames from setting your roof on fire.
20:29 decimation that is probably a big reason I would think
20:29 decimation my understanding is that modern 'multi-family' housing typically includes 'fire clips' that ensure that a particular burning building collapses on itself
20:29 decimation on the theory that it's better for the others
20:31 asciilifeform like the (Official Truth version of) wtc, l0l
20:32 nubbins` here's a government report from 2006
20:32 nubbins` One gentleman from downtown St. John’s wrote to the Consumer Advocate:
20:32 nubbins` “In November 2004 the house insurance dramatically escalated from $552.00 to $1,315.60. The municipal appraisal was constant. The insurance brokers advised me that it was almost impossible to obtain insurance for a downtown, partially attached house. They advised that the new rate was the best they could obtain. I personally telephoned two other insurance companies in St. John’s. In each call I was immediately asked the location of the
20:32 nubbins` residence.
20:32 nubbins` Upon responding I was promptly told that the company would not even entertain my request due to location. I therefore was forced to accept the $763 increase.”
20:33 decimation asciilifeform: I saw the clips with my own eyes, made of shit metal that melts at low temps
20:33 decimation asciilifeform: oh lordy don't tell me you're a 'truther'?
20:33 nubbins` "Another couple from St. John’s advised the Consumer Advocate that, despite numerous attempts, they had not been able to obtain insurance at any cost for the past four and a half years on their attached King’s Bridge Road property."
20:33 nubbins` imagine
20:34 nubbins` not able to purchase fire insurance
20:34 nubbins` at ANY COST
20:35 nubbins` "IBAN confirmed that homeowners in the St. John’s downtown area have experienced difficulty in finding insurance coverage in the past. The reasons for this difficulty are the high concentrations of wood frame structures with varying type of occupancy and differing physical conditions."
20:35 nubbins` translation: too many slums and boarding houses
20:36 nubbins` wow, says here installing a woodstove would double my premium
20:38 nubbins` anyway
20:39 nubbins` i came up here 40 minutes ago to roll a jazz cig
20:39 nubbins` back on track
20:42 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212374 <<< colourful place
20:42 assbot Logged on 25-07-2015 00:24:37; nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/qk6mi7K.jpg
20:42 nubbins` cazalla people tend to bump up the saturation in photos but it really does look like that
20:43 nubbins` my house is just past the green spire in top left of frame
20:43 nubbins` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cTtjBXzyB8
20:43 assbot Hot Chip — Colours - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DDDJty )
20:44 cazalla hard to imagine everyone agreed to it, was forced?
20:45 nubbins` haha
20:45 nubbins` in 1982 the pope came here and the gov gave everybody $$ to paint their houses
20:46 felipelalli deedbot- http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uHSZ6j5j
20:46 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDFuip )
20:46 deedbot- accepted: 1
20:46 nubbins` n/m
20:46 nubbins` Shane O’Dea, an expert on architectural heritage and historic preservation, said the idea of fancy window and door trim, and brightly-painted houses was born in 1977. In fact, the idea can be traced to one man, David Webber, the foundation’s executive director. In that year, the foundation took on a demonstration project by painting a sample block in bright colours, from Willicott’s Lane to Victoria Street, on both sides of the street.
20:46 nubbins` ^ before this happened, most houses were painted with leftover marine paint from boats
20:46 nubbins` and the city was drab as fuck
20:47 nubbins` now it's just a thing people do. i have a friend who painted his house neon green
20:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 185562 @ 0.00050588 = 93.8721 BTC [-] {4}
20:47 cazalla too exotic for my likings but i can see how it would appeal to creative types
20:48 nubbins` yellow 123 is getting pretty popular these days
20:49 cazalla our master bedroom is pink (forget the name of the colour) and that is about enough for me heh
20:50 nubbins` sorry, i'm just using pantone numbers
20:50 nubbins` some of them are burned into my brain
20:50 cazalla yellow123 looks a nice yellow
20:50 nubbins` #fdc82f for you hex colour types
20:50 nubbins` yep
20:51 nubbins` yellow 123 is like the blue 072 of yellows.
20:51 cazalla ill write that yellow down for when i paint son's room
20:52 cazalla is that the blue facebook colour?
20:52 nubbins` could be
20:52 nubbins` blue 072 is one of the 14 pantone base colours
20:53 nubbins` with which all others (incl. yellow 123) can be mixed
20:54 nubbins` here's a diagram some may find interesting
20:54 nubbins` https://www.pantone.com/images/pages/20459/cie.png
20:54 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDGums )
20:54 nubbins` the large coloured shape is the colour space of a standard human eye
20:55 nubbins` the area inside the yellow triangle can be reproduced via sRGB (i.e. on your computer screen)
20:55 nubbins` the area inside the pink blob can be reproduced via CMYK (i.e. printed products)
20:56 nubbins` the black dots are the ~1,200 colours in the pantone matching system
21:01 nubbins` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkqMzLR8kS8
21:01 assbot The new PANTONE PLUS SERIES. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDH9EG )
21:01 nubbins` brb
~ 15 minutes ~
21:16 nubbins` https://youtu.be/hkqMzLR8kS8?t=1m54s
21:16 assbot The new PANTONE PLUS SERIES. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDIVpm )
21:16 nubbins` drool
21:16 cazalla on a scale of 1-10 such knowledge of colours interests me 0 but i can respect the enthusiasm and knowledge :)
21:16 nubbins` cazalla, having a pantone book is like having a suitcase full of vials with "essence of ____" written on the labels
21:17 nubbins` each one smelling of old leather, rustic tobacco, strawberry, green mould, etc
21:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35750 @ 0.00052044 = 18.6057 BTC [+] {2}
21:18 cazalla i bet you're the guy who steals all the paint swatches from the hardware store :P
21:18 nubbins` nah, can't pantone match em ;)
21:19 nubbins` look at that fucking press go
21:19 nubbins` drool
21:28 cazalla nubbins`, copics actually any good? missus has truckloads for some reason
21:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47550 @ 0.0005174 = 24.6024 BTC [-]
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21:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14394 @ 0.00052174 = 7.5099 BTC [-]
21:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90040 @ 0.00050524 = 45.4918 BTC [-] {3}
21:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28210 @ 0.00050399 = 14.2176 BTC [-]
21:53 nubbins` not my thing but from what i hear, yeah
21:53 nubbins` dem brush tips
21:57 decimation http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/07/24/amazon-now-worth-more-than-wal-mart/ "As of the close, that had Wal-Mart’s market cap at $233.5 billion versus Amazon’s $224.5 billion, according to FactSet."
21:57 assbot Amazon Is Now Worth More Than Wal-Mart - Digits - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDNEY0 )
22:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85000 @ 0.0005094 = 43.299 BTC [+]
22:08 decimation http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-24/google-has-way-to-unclog-drone-filled-skies-like-it-did-the-web < google salivates over the idea of appointing itself 'usg commissar of drones'
22:08 assbot Google Wants a Piece of Air-Traffic Control for Drones - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDP4ld )
22:08 decimation Dave Vos, who heads Google’s secretive Project Wing, told Bloomberg News in his most expansive comments on Google’s vision to date. “The idea being that it’s not ‘Google is going to go out and build a solution and everyone else has to subscribe to it.’ The idea really is anyone should be free to build a solution.”
22:08 decimation translation: we will crush anyone who attempts to enter this space
22:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70200 @ 0.0005094 = 35.7599 BTC [+]
22:18 trinque felipelalli: lol, looks like I need to make that regex greedy
22:18 trinque I'll fix that then run your thing back through
22:18 trinque "yo dawg, I heard you like gpg..."
22:23 felipelalli trinque, what? :)
22:23 trinque felipelalli: second signature got hacked off when it posted
22:23 trinque no one could have ever forseen a signed message inside a signed message, you see!
22:23 felipelalli really? But I can see here: http://deedbot.org/deed-2015-07-25-00-46-05.txt
22:23 decimation asciilifeform, others: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openwrt.devel/32651 "I just committed a change making musl the new default libc in OpenWrt
22:23 assbot OpenWrt Development List ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMpC58 )
22:23 decimation trunk, replacing uclibc."
22:24 trinque felipelalli: second sig is gone
22:24 felipelalli LOL
22:24 felipelalli I just noticed it now
22:25 felipelalli trinque, the problem was the UTF** again?
22:25 felipelalli Or did I do something wrong?
22:25 mats http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/technology/isis-chan/index.html
22:25 assbot Anime nerds are trying to Google bomb ISIS - Jul. 23, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDQWKJ )
22:25 trinque felipelalli: nah, muh regex is derped
22:26 trinque I'll fix it this evening and send your thing back through
22:26 felipelalli thank you very much. Actually you can ignore this. This was just the proposal contract, not the final yet.
22:26 trinque eh I'll still send it through as a test case then
22:26 felipelalli But I'll send a similar soon.
22:26 trinque cool, sounds fine
22:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109821 @ 0.00050377 = 55.3245 BTC [-] {2}
22:27 mats http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/07/24/skipping-church-facial-recognition-software-could-be-tracking-you
22:27 assbot Skipping church? Facial recognition software could be tracking you - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDR3WF )
22:27 decimation I considered building something like that myself
22:28 decimation of course wapo thinks it's an evil idea, but perfectly fine for usg/telcoms to do it
22:30 decimation obviously this kind of thing is going to slowly expand to be 'normal' in almost all situations
22:30 mats time to bring back the hoodie and aviator sunglasses look
22:30 decimation heh
22:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42900 @ 0.00050232 = 21.5495 BTC [-]
22:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10306 @ 0.0005094 = 5.2499 BTC [+]
22:48 cazalla this is probably common to every library now but i look at the melbourne public library's website and notice they have ebooks available for loan.. go to loan ebook but can't because someone else has it out on loan and they only have 1 copy available
22:49 decimation cazalla: doesn't that strike you as the dumbest thing ever?
22:52 cazalla someone somewhere must be making a killing off such a scheme
22:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91900 @ 0.0005194 = 47.7329 BTC [+]
22:52 cazalla i figured the loan button was just another way of saying download, should've known better
22:52 decimation yes, it's certainly the case that your tax dollars are going to some kind of 'authors collective'
22:53 cazalla trying to suss out if they charge late fees on ebooks now
22:54 decimation I thought most of those 'ebook lending schemes' worked on some kind of time-based poison pill
22:55 asciilifeform cazalla: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=918 << related.
22:55 assbot Loper OS » To Lend is the Right of an Owner – That is, Not You. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TY5dDA )
22:58 decimation asciilifeform: what annoys me even more is that the selection of 'lendable ebooks' is complete shit
22:58 asciilifeform unsurprising
22:58 decimation usually throwaway fiction, never worthwhile technical books
22:59 asciilifeform if someone is dumb enough to buy into such a chumpatron, why bother serving up anything but pablum
22:59 decimation you would think they could at least serve up google's copy of pre-1923 books
22:59 asciilifeform decimation: folks would cotton on to the truth - them being entirely free - pretty quickly
23:00 decimation so the proles could read the victorians lamenting their future dumb asses
23:00 asciilifeform last thing the 'ebook' racket wants is an infinite fountain of free.
23:01 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-07-2015#1212505 << the 'face recognizer' thing is setting the stage for some epic lulz. think 'sausage attack.' just about all the commercial face processors readily fall for inkjet-printed masks that wouldn't fool a child
23:01 assbot Logged on 25-07-2015 02:30:44; mats: time to bring back the hoodie and aviator sunglasses look
23:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61074 @ 0.00051953 = 31.7298 BTC [+] {3}
23:01 decimation ^ all biometrics fall to similar kinds of sybil attacks
23:06 cazalla asciilifeform, seems an obvious prediction in hindsight.. i guess i should step inside the library more often
23:06 decimation cazalla: the problem is that most american libraries have gotten rid of their physical books
23:06 decimation or carry nothing but similiar pablum
23:07 cazalla i called them up regarding the late fees and no, no late fees on an ebook, librarian told me without prompting that they don't support the kindle either
23:08 asciilifeform cazalla: the libraries where i live, still have books
23:08 asciilifeform but the only ones with serious books are at universities
23:09 decimation ^
23:09 asciilifeform the municipal libraries are being converted to halls where homeless folks can check email, yes.
23:10 cazalla their ebooks use this software apparently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OverDrive,_Inc.
23:10 assbot OverDrive, Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1It8B7p )
23:10 cazalla well, software developed by that company anyway
23:11 cazalla "The company's global network includes more than 27,000 libraries and schools."
23:12 asciilifeform 'In January 2009, OverDrive informed Fictionwise that it would no longer be providing downloads for purchasers of e-books through Fictionwise as of January 31, 2009. No reason was provided to Fictionwise as to why it was being shut down. This prevents previous purchasers from being able to renew their books on new devices. Fictionwise was working to provide replacement ebooks for its customers in alternative, non-DRM-protected
23:12 asciilifeform formats, but did not have the rights to provide all of the books in different formats.'
23:12 asciilifeform ^ l0l!
23:12 asciilifeform it has ~always~ been abundantly obvious what 'content vendors' think of folks dumb enough not to pirate.
23:14 decimation asciilifeform: yeah, either they think they can't 'reach that market' or they are dumber than the average prole
23:16 asciilifeform copyrasts whine about 'if you made movie, you didn't make that movie' but there can be no such thing as too cruel a revenge for 'if you bought a book, you didn't buy that book'
23:16 decimation asciilifeform: actually I find youtube to be an interesting case here
23:18 decimation many otherwise strict copyrasts load up youtube with their warez (where they are easily copied)
23:18 decimation they can't help themselves because 'think of the publicity!'
23:19 asciilifeform they still persist in delusions of 'ownership'
23:19 asciilifeform try displaying the thing outside of turdtube, sans pestilential ads, etc.
23:21 decimation yeah, there's a tacit agreement - you can copy our stuff but only we can sell it
23:22 decimation actually what I find far more offensive than pablum-slinging are the academic publisher fiefs
23:22 asciilifeform these exist at the pleasure of usg.
23:23 decimation sure, but they use their exalted position to keep out those who don't have 'notes from stalin'
23:23 asciilifeform but also because today's academitards are risk-averse sheeple of the worst kind.
23:23 asciilifeform 'can't put paper on www, it isn't prestigious'
23:23 decimation 'need prestige to get sinecure'
23:24 asciilifeform the operative word is 'get'
23:24 asciilifeform get where, from who
23:24 asciilifeform point the finger - there.
23:24 decimation generally the crown, or one of its organs
23:26 asciilifeform crown could, if wished, proclaim tomorrow 'any academic claiming a publication on his cv that is not freely available on www is committing fraud, and liable'
23:26 asciilifeform don't hold your breath for this. but ~could~
23:26 decimation they kinda made a halfass derp in that direction
23:26 decimation but it has enough loopholes to not make a difference
23:26 asciilifeform precisely the kind of faux reform that exists to 'check a box'
23:26 asciilifeform 'see, we tried'
23:28 asciilifeform but it is a mistake to think that elsevier, wiley, et al exist to 'keep research from the plebes.' no one gives half a rat's arse about plebes. they exist as an inevitable fly on the juicy meat of the university
23:28 asciilifeform just like the suppliers of $100 test tubes and $500 table legs
23:28 decimation yeah, the plebes are kept out merely as a side effect of the gorging
23:29 decimation because if the shoe-shine boy could get in on the racket it's already blown its load
23:29 asciilifeform yes, elsevier is in the position to 'you get to pay us $2mil/yr or you don't get to run a university library'
23:29 asciilifeform but it is one of 1,001 such entities
23:30 asciilifeform gigantic bags of money don't come with arms and legs, can't defend selves from rentseekers
23:30 decimation as for 'sheeple' - you of course realize how thin the shadow of an implication of a threat you would need to make for a tenure-hopeful to be thrown into near-suicidal doubt
23:31 asciilifeform ergo when usg throws money to academitards, it really enriches the vultures who feed on the latter
23:31 decimation yeah, like the 'gold rushers' of yore, the folks who got rich were the middlemen
23:32 asciilifeform drink that cup of its-weight-in-gold water.
23:32 asciilifeform delicious.
23:32 asciilifeform and costs just the same across the street, too.
23:32 asciilifeform because - it can.
23:33 decimation yeah, the miners were not known for actually holding gold
23:33 asciilifeform and it is very much not because they did not want to.
23:35 asciilifeform (at times, the 'water sellers' are peculiarly slow to catch up - consider, for instance, that mains current cheap enough to mine btc with at a profit still appears to exist somewhere !)
23:36 decimation asciilifeform: actually I was thinking about how one could buy otherwise useless land in the desert, get usg to subsidize solar, and sell space in a 'miner's datacenter'
23:36 asciilifeform good way to build a free gift of hash for usg
23:36 asciilifeform i'll pass.
23:36 decimation heh
23:37 decimation 'you didn't mine that bitcoin'
23:38 asciilifeform and... where did the tx spam go
23:38 asciilifeform i miss it so
23:38 decimation free testing service?
23:38 asciilifeform aha
23:39 asciilifeform was very good test for me nodes
23:39 decimation I guess the 'bitcoin core' devs and their patrons are regrouping
23:40 asciilifeform making list of whose packets to drop must be hard wurk
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23:58 mircea_popescu ohai
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